Re: Copy a backup

2004-03-31 Thread Steven Pemberton
On Wednesday 31 March 2004 09:22, Steve Harris wrote:
 Time to weigh in here.

 1. DB2 backups are API backups.  Generate backupset will not work.
 2. DB2 backups are different to other backups.  the db2adutl program is
 used to expire them.  TSM holds indefinitely until db2adutl explicity
 deletes.

It seems I'm confused too! :)

I forgot that DB2 stores it's backups as *uniquely* named objects, not
*consistently* named objects. Since each backup object is uniquely named, the
retention policy needs to be set to keep one copy of each object forever,
and to immediately expire the data when it is eventually deleted.

So the DB2 Management Class should look like this:

Backup copy group: VE = 1, VD = 0, RE = 0, RO = 0;
Archive copy group: RD = NoLimit;

The DB2 admin (or a script) then uses the db2adutl command to tell TSM which
backups and logs are no longer required (ie. it tells TSM they were
deleted, and then TSM policy expires the object).

This is described in the Redbook Backing up DB2 using Tivoli Storage Manager
sg246247, section 7.4 in particular.

I guess I was thinking of some horrible mix of DB2 and Domino. Sorry for the
disinformation. :)

Regards,
Steven P.

 So what is necessary is to examine your DB2 processes and the way that
 db2adutl is run.  If you are scripting it to do the deletions (there is a
 delete after so many days parameter) then you will need to revisit that for
 your Friday exceptions.

 That said, if you want to keep another copy of your DB2 backup, without
 taking another backup, then you can retrieve the Db2 backup from TSM to a
 disk file, again using arguments to db2adutl, and then you can back that up
 to TSM again by the usual backup or archive mechanism.  Now there is a DB2
 control file that holds details of backups. whether you will be able to
 restore 12 months hence and need to also keep a copy of the control
 information is a question for your DB2 DBA.


 Regards

 Steve Harris
 AIX and TSM Admin
 Queensland Health, Brisbane Australia

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Re: Copy a backup

2004-03-31 Thread David E Ehresman
Noone said anything about wanting to be able to restore.  The stated
requirement was to satisfy the auditors by making a copy of the backup.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3/30/2004 1:16:05 PM 
DB2 will not be able to restore this data from a BACKUPSET.

You will probably have to backup the DB2 database(s) again under a
different
nodename that is bound to a different management class pointing to
this
storage pool.

Bill Boyer
DSS, Inc.

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GENERATE BACKUPSET

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3/29/2004 7:06:15 AM 
Good Day TSMers,

Please HELP..we do db2 backups to TSM on a daily basis. What I
would
like to do to satify our auditors is make a copy of the backup taken
on
Friday nights to a storage pool that I've called weekly.

I do not want to move the data, but make a copy of that backup set
taken as
at the friday night.

How can I go about doing thisAny Ideas ??


Your assistance will be greatly appreciated.


Lindy Crawford
Information Technology
Nedbank Corporate - Property and Asset Finance

Tel : 031 - 3642185
Fax : 031 - 3642946
Cell: 083 632 5982
Email   : [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 


Gen1 to Gen2 Upgrade/coexist

2004-03-31 Thread Anoop Das
 Am using an LTO 3583 with 2 scsi Gen1 drives and GEN1 cartridges. Planning
to upgrade to 4 fiber Gen2 drives in the 3583. The SCSI drives will be
removed. The current data exists on over 150 gen1 cartridges and hence do
not plan to move to gen2 cartridges immediately. The setup is directly
attached to the pSeries servers running AIX 5.1 and TSM Server
Got some queries

1. Will Gen2 drives be able to read and write(new as well as append to
existing tapes) on the existing gen1 cartridges without problem?
2. What speed will I get out of the new setup? Gen2 speed or Gen1 speed?
3. If I coexist the new gen2 drives with the existing gen1 drives where can
I get stuck?

Anyone experienced in this kind of a scenario?

Anoop


Tsm client sending more than network bandwidth. What's up?

2004-03-31 Thread Lee, Gary D.
Tsm server v5.1.6.2 on solaris 2.8
Client 3.1.7 on solaris 2.6
Attached through a 100mb ethernet interface.  

It appears that tsm is getting 104 mb network throughput.
The admin for the client machine (who is also our main tcp/pi routing guy) asks how 
this is possible?

Note that compression is not a factor here.

Extract from dsmsched.log follows:

dsmsched.log ---

03/29/04   17:05:52 Total number of objects inspected:  120,782
03/29/04   17:05:52 Total number of objects backed up:1,363
. . .

03/29/04   17:05:52 Total number of bytes transferred:   989.99 MB
03/29/04   17:05:52 Data transfer time:   77.42 sec
03/29/04   17:05:52 Network data transfer rate:13,093.72 KB/sec
03/29/04   17:05:52 Aggregate data transfer rate:  2,938.10 KB/sec
03/29/04   17:05:52 Objects compressed by:0%



Gary Lee
Senior Operating Systems Analyst
Ball State University
phone 765-285-1310
 


Re: Gen1 to Gen2 Upgrade/coexist

2004-03-31 Thread Amos Hagay
Hi.

 

1.Gen 2 will be able to write on the Gen1 Cartridges (I done it with
LTO 3582 )

2.according to IBM spec sheets Gen1 is 15-30 MB/s, but with LTO2
Drives its 20-40 MB/s writing on LTO2 cartridges.

3.I not sure if LTO1 drive can write on LTO2 cartridge, but if it
can, u can change the format to drive instead of LTO in the Device
Class.

 

I hope it answer your questions.

 

Original Message-
From: Anoop Das [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 3:40 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Gen1 to Gen2 Upgrade/coexist

 

 Am using an LTO 3583 with 2 scsi Gen1 drives and GEN1 cartridges.
Planning

to upgrade to 4 fiber Gen2 drives in the 3583. The SCSI drives will be

removed. The current data exists on over 150 gen1 cartridges and hence
do

not plan to move to gen2 cartridges immediately. The setup is directly

attached to the pSeries servers running AIX 5.1 and TSM Server

Got some queries

 

1. Will Gen2 drives be able to read and write(new as well as append to

existing tapes) on the existing gen1 cartridges without problem?

2. What speed will I get out of the new setup? Gen2 speed or Gen1 speed?

3. If I coexist the new gen2 drives with the existing gen1 drives where
can

I get stuck?

 

Anyone experienced in this kind of a scenario?

 

Anoop


Re: Gen1 to Gen2 Upgrade/coexist

2004-03-31 Thread Richard Sims
...
1. Will Gen2 drives be able to read and write(new as well as append to
existing tapes) on the existing gen1 cartridges without problem?
...

Bookmark www.lto.org .
In  http://www.lto.org/newsite/html/about_faqs.html see
 Q9: What are the backward compatibility characteristics of the Ultrium format
 Generation 2?

  Richard Simshttp://people.bu.edu/rbs


Re: Tsm client sending more than network bandwidth. What's up?

2004-03-31 Thread Richard Sims
...
It appears that tsm is getting 104 mb network throughput.
The admin for the client machine (who is also our main tcp/pi routing
guy) asks how this is possible?
...

Your network guy should know this, but...  Applications do not perform
network data transfer: the network component of the operating system does.
The application (in this case, TSM) knows only the rate at which it has
been able to hand over data to be sent out.  It is beyond its purview to
know that the data has actually gone out.  With very large data transfers,
the rate seen by the application can approximate reality, but with
smaller samples, the stats can be more skewed.  Your TSM transaction
size is also a factor here, in handshaking.

See also Network data transfer rate in
http://people.bu.edu/rbs/ADSM.QuickFacts
where I have notes about the effect.

  Richard Sims


Re: Gen1 to Gen2 Upgrade/coexist

2004-03-31 Thread Gianluca Mariani1
see below.


Cordiali saluti
Gianluca Mariani
Tivoli TSM Global Response Team, Roma
Via Sciangai 53, Roma
 phones : +39(0)659664598
   +393351270554 (mobile)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy says  of the Sirius Cybernetics 
Corporation product that it is very easy to be blinded to the essential 
uselessness of  them by the sense of achievement you get from getting them 
to work at all. In other words  and this is the rock solid principle  on 
which the  whole  of the Corporation's Galaxy-wide success is founded 
-their fundamental design flaws are  completely  hidden  by  their 
superficial design flaws...



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 Am using an LTO 3583 with 2 scsi Gen1 drives and GEN1 cartridges. 
Planning
to upgrade to 4 fiber Gen2 drives in the 3583. The SCSI drives will be
removed. The current data exists on over 150 gen1 cartridges and hence do
not plan to move to gen2 cartridges immediately. The setup is directly
attached to the pSeries servers running AIX 5.1 and TSM Server
Got some queries

1. Will Gen2 drives be able to read and write(new as well as append to
existing tapes) on the existing gen1 cartridges without problem?
yes
2. What speed will I get out of the new setup? Gen2 speed or Gen1 speed?
using LTO1 tapes on LTO2 drives you'll get speeds inbetween the two.you 
will have to test for your specific environment.

3. If I coexist the new gen2 drives with the existing gen1 drives where 
can
I get stuck?
you have to get the feature upgrade for the 3583.it needs to be 
partitioned in separate libraries for LTO1 and 2 drives.then you have to 
assign the storage columns to the separate libraries.LTO1 drives cannot 
write LTO2 media.TSM will see two medium changers(libraries).

Anyone experienced in this kind of a scenario?

Anoop




Re: Gen1 to Gen2 Upgrade/coexist

2004-03-31 Thread Amos Hagay
Please send the url we cant see nothing

-Original Message-
From: Gianluca Mariani1 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 4:26 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Gen1 to Gen2 Upgrade/coexist

see below.


Cordiali saluti
Gianluca Mariani
Tivoli TSM Global Response Team, Roma
Via Sciangai 53, Roma
 phones : +39(0)659664598
   +393351270554 (mobile)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy says  of the Sirius Cybernetics 
Corporation product that it is very easy to be blinded to the essential 
uselessness of  them by the sense of achievement you get from getting them 
to work at all. In other words  and this is the rock solid principle  on 
which the  whole  of the Corporation's Galaxy-wide success is founded 
-their fundamental design flaws are  completely  hidden  by  their 
superficial design flaws...



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 Am using an LTO 3583 with 2 scsi Gen1 drives and GEN1 cartridges. 
Planning
to upgrade to 4 fiber Gen2 drives in the 3583. The SCSI drives will be
removed. The current data exists on over 150 gen1 cartridges and hence do
not plan to move to gen2 cartridges immediately. The setup is directly
attached to the pSeries servers running AIX 5.1 and TSM Server
Got some queries

1. Will Gen2 drives be able to read and write(new as well as append to
existing tapes) on the existing gen1 cartridges without problem?
yes
2. What speed will I get out of the new setup? Gen2 speed or Gen1 speed?
using LTO1 tapes on LTO2 drives you'll get speeds inbetween the two.you 
will have to test for your specific environment.

3. If I coexist the new gen2 drives with the existing gen1 drives where 
can
I get stuck?
you have to get the feature upgrade for the 3583.it needs to be 
partitioned in separate libraries for LTO1 and 2 drives.then you have to 
assign the storage columns to the separate libraries.LTO1 drives cannot 
write LTO2 media.TSM will see two medium changers(libraries).

Anyone experienced in this kind of a scenario?

Anoop





Re: Gen1 to Gen2 Upgrade/coexist

2004-03-31 Thread Gianluca Mariani1
no url.
I just added the answers after the questions.
see if they are more visible now:

1. Will Gen2 drives be able to read and write(new as well as append to
existing tapes) on the existing gen1 cartridges without problem?

yes

2. What speed will I get out of the new setup? Gen2 speed or Gen1 speed?

using LTO1 tapes on LTO2 drives you'll get speeds inbetween the two.you 
will have to test for your specific environment.

3. If I coexist the new gen2 drives with the existing gen1 drives where 
can I get stuck?

you have to get the feature upgrade for the 3583.it needs to be 
partitioned in separate libraries for LTO1 and 2 drives.then you have to 
assign the storage columns to the separate libraries.LTO1 drives cannot 
write LTO2 media.TSM will see two medium changers(libraries).

Cordiali saluti
Gianluca Mariani
Tivoli TSM Global Response Team, Roma
Via Sciangai 53, Roma
 phones : +39(0)659664598
   +393351270554 (mobile)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy says  of the Sirius Cybernetics 
Corporation product that it is very easy to be blinded to the essential 
uselessness of  them by the sense of achievement you get from getting them 
to work at all. In other words  and this is the rock solid principle  on 
which the  whole  of the Corporation's Galaxy-wide success is founded 
-their fundamental design flaws are  completely  hidden  by  their 
superficial design flaws...



Amos Hagay [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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Please send the url we cant see nothing

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Subject: Re: Gen1 to Gen2 Upgrade/coexist

see below.


Cordiali saluti
Gianluca Mariani
Tivoli TSM Global Response Team, Roma
Via Sciangai 53, Roma
 phones : +39(0)659664598
   +393351270554 (mobile)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy says  of the Sirius Cybernetics 
Corporation product that it is very easy to be blinded to the essential 
uselessness of  them by the sense of achievement you get from getting them 

to work at all. In other words  and this is the rock solid principle  on 
which the  whole  of the Corporation's Galaxy-wide success is founded 
-their fundamental design flaws are  completely  hidden  by  their 
superficial design flaws...



Anoop Das [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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 Am using an LTO 3583 with 2 scsi Gen1 drives and GEN1 cartridges. 
Planning
to upgrade to 4 fiber Gen2 drives in the 3583. The SCSI drives will be
removed. The current data exists on over 150 gen1 cartridges and hence do
not plan to move to gen2 cartridges immediately. The setup is directly
attached to the pSeries servers running AIX 5.1 and TSM Server
Got some queries

1. Will Gen2 drives be able to read and write(new as well as append to
existing tapes) on the existing gen1 cartridges without problem?
yes
2. What speed will I get out of the new setup? Gen2 speed or Gen1 speed?
using LTO1 tapes on LTO2 drives you'll get speeds inbetween the two.you 
will have to test for your specific environment.

3. If I coexist the new gen2 drives with the existing gen1 drives where 
can
I get stuck?
you have to get the feature upgrade for the 3583.it needs to be 
partitioned in separate libraries for LTO1 and 2 drives.then you have to 
assign the storage columns to the separate libraries.LTO1 drives cannot 
write LTO2 media.TSM will see two medium changers(libraries).

Anyone experienced in this kind of a scenario?

Anoop







Spam: LTO2 Qusetion ?

2004-03-31 Thread Amos Hagay
Hi all.

 

I would like to know if there is any difference between IBM LTO2 Cartridges to HP LTO2 
Cartridges  ?

Because with the price there is difference .

 

AH



LTO2 Question

2004-03-31 Thread Amos Hagay
Hi all.

 

I would like to know if there is any difference between IBM LTO2 Cartridges to HP LTO2 
Cartridges.

Because with the price there is difference.

 

AH 



LTO

2004-03-31 Thread Amos Hagay
Hi all.

 

I would like to know if there is any difference between IBM LTO2 Cartridges to HP LTO2 
Cartridges.

Because with the price there is a difference.

AH



Library sharing

2004-03-31 Thread Zoltan Forray/AC/VCU
Trying to get ATL library sharing working between two TSM AIX servers.

I think I finally got the definitions correct..at least they seem to
function.

However, I can't get the library client (capella) to use the drives. Every
time it does, I get these errors in the activity log:

03/31/2004 09:54:13  ANR8779E Unable to open drive /dev/rmt1, error
number=46.
  (SESSION: 2663, PROCESS: 11)

The library manager says the tape is mounted and ready.

03/31/2004 09:52:25  ANR8337I 3590 volume 070330 mounted in drive
ATL-DRIVE2 (/dev/rmt1).
03/31/2004 09:52:25  ANR9791I Volume 070330 in library 3494ATL ownership
is changing from TSM-AGENA to TSM-CAPELLA.

Any suggestions on what might be wrong ?

AIX messages says the -46 is Drive Not Ready.

These are FC / SAN attached 3590E1A drives.


Re: Library sharing

2004-03-31 Thread Amos Hagay
Hi,

From my experience with 3584 Library, the rmt devices should be
The same on both machines e.g. server_1 /dev/rmt1 /dev/rmt2 etc...
And also on the library client /dev/rmt1 ...

AH

-Original Message-
From: Zoltan Forray/AC/VCU [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 5:46 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Library sharing

Trying to get ATL library sharing working between two TSM AIX servers.

I think I finally got the definitions correct..at least they seem to
function.

However, I can't get the library client (capella) to use the drives. Every
time it does, I get these errors in the activity log:

03/31/2004 09:54:13  ANR8779E Unable to open drive /dev/rmt1, error
number=46.
  (SESSION: 2663, PROCESS: 11)

The library manager says the tape is mounted and ready.

03/31/2004 09:52:25  ANR8337I 3590 volume 070330 mounted in drive
ATL-DRIVE2 (/dev/rmt1).
03/31/2004 09:52:25  ANR9791I Volume 070330 in library 3494ATL ownership
is changing from TSM-AGENA to TSM-CAPELLA.

Any suggestions on what might be wrong ?

AIX messages says the -46 is Drive Not Ready.

These are FC / SAN attached 3590E1A drives.



Re: Library sharing

2004-03-31 Thread Karel Bos
Hi,

Can be, but don't have to be the same... In the past I saw some machines
with different device names for the same devices and it worked well with
ITSM (on Windows).

Regards,

Karel

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: Amos Hagay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Verzonden: woensdag 31 maart 2004 17:46
Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Onderwerp: Re: Library sharing


Hi,

From my experience with 3584 Library, the rmt devices should be
The same on both machines e.g. server_1 /dev/rmt1 /dev/rmt2 etc...
And also on the library client /dev/rmt1 ...

AH

-Original Message-
From: Zoltan Forray/AC/VCU [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 5:46 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Library sharing

Trying to get ATL library sharing working between two TSM AIX servers.

I think I finally got the definitions correct..at least they seem to
function.

However, I can't get the library client (capella) to use the drives. Every
time it does, I get these errors in the activity log:

03/31/2004 09:54:13  ANR8779E Unable to open drive /dev/rmt1, error
number=46.
  (SESSION: 2663, PROCESS: 11)

The library manager says the tape is mounted and ready.

03/31/2004 09:52:25  ANR8337I 3590 volume 070330 mounted in drive
ATL-DRIVE2 (/dev/rmt1).
03/31/2004 09:52:25  ANR9791I Volume 070330 in library 3494ATL ownership
is changing from TSM-AGENA to TSM-CAPELLA.

Any suggestions on what might be wrong ?

AIX messages says the -46 is Drive Not Ready.

These are FC / SAN attached 3590E1A drives.


Re: LTO2 Question

2004-03-31 Thread Kochanski, Mark A
We've tested both and didn't see a significant difference in
performance.  We had the IBM drives in a 3584 and the HP drives in a
L700, both fiber drives.  The tests were against the same servers, the
same data.

MK

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Amos Hagay
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 9:32 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: LTO2 Question


Hi all.

 

I would like to know if there is any difference between IBM LTO2
Cartridges to HP LTO2 Cartridges.

Because with the price there is difference.

 

AH 


Re: Library sharing

2004-03-31 Thread Bill Boyer
When you define the PATHs on the TSM server for the storage agent on the client node, 
the device= is the name of the tape drive on the client, not on the server. You need 
to match the drive name on the TSM server to the correct device name on the client 
node, then use that in the DEFINE PATH. So on your TSM server:

If library 3584 drive LTO1 points to the /dev/rmt1 device and on the storage agent 
client SA1 that same physical drive is the /dev/rmt3 device you would use:

define path SA1 LTO1 srctype=server desttype=drive library=3584 device=/dev/rmt3

Bill Boyer
DSS, Inc.

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
Karel Bos
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 10:54 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Library sharing


Hi,

Can be, but don't have to be the same... In the past I saw some machines
with different device names for the same devices and it worked well with
ITSM (on Windows).

Regards,

Karel

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: Amos Hagay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Verzonden: woensdag 31 maart 2004 17:46
Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Onderwerp: Re: Library sharing


Hi,

From my experience with 3584 Library, the rmt devices should be
The same on both machines e.g. server_1 /dev/rmt1 /dev/rmt2 etc...
And also on the library client /dev/rmt1 ...

AH

-Original Message-
From: Zoltan Forray/AC/VCU [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 5:46 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Library sharing

Trying to get ATL library sharing working between two TSM AIX servers.

I think I finally got the definitions correct..at least they seem to
function.

However, I can't get the library client (capella) to use the drives. Every
time it does, I get these errors in the activity log:

03/31/2004 09:54:13  ANR8779E Unable to open drive /dev/rmt1, error
number=46.
  (SESSION: 2663, PROCESS: 11)

The library manager says the tape is mounted and ready.

03/31/2004 09:52:25  ANR8337I 3590 volume 070330 mounted in drive
ATL-DRIVE2 (/dev/rmt1).
03/31/2004 09:52:25  ANR9791I Volume 070330 in library 3494ATL ownership
is changing from TSM-AGENA to TSM-CAPELLA.

Any suggestions on what might be wrong ?

AIX messages says the -46 is Drive Not Ready.

These are FC / SAN attached 3590E1A drives.


Re: Library sharing

2004-03-31 Thread Zoltan Forray/AC/VCU
Well, in this case, it isn't, sortof...

I don't have *ANY* path statements on the client, that refer to these
drives. All that is defined on the client is the SHARED LIBRARY. This is
another TSM server, not just a storage agent.

The path statements on the library manager are duplicated for the client,
pointing to the client as the SOURCE serverand yes, both sets of
definitions point to the same /dev/rmtx.

I am beginning to wonder if it has to do with the different levels of
ATAPE. The client is much newer (8.4.1.0) while the library manager is
8.3.x.

ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 03/31/2004
11:07:04 AM:

 When you define the PATHs on the TSM server for the storage agent on
 the client node, the device= is the name of the tape drive on the
 client, not on the server. You need to match the drive name on the
 TSM server to the correct device name on the client node, then use
 that in the DEFINE PATH. So on your TSM server:

 If library 3584 drive LTO1 points to the /dev/rmt1 device and on the
 storage agent client SA1 that same physical drive is the /dev/rmt3
 device you would use:

 define path SA1 LTO1 srctype=server desttype=drive library=3584
 device=/dev/rmt3

 Bill Boyer
 DSS, Inc.

 -Original Message-
 From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
 Karel Bos
 Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 10:54 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Library sharing


 Hi,

 Can be, but don't have to be the same... In the past I saw some machines
 with different device names for the same devices and it worked well with
 ITSM (on Windows).

 Regards,

 Karel

 -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
 Van: Amos Hagay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Verzonden: woensdag 31 maart 2004 17:46
 Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Onderwerp: Re: Library sharing


 Hi,

 From my experience with 3584 Library, the rmt devices should be
 The same on both machines e.g. server_1 /dev/rmt1 /dev/rmt2 etc...
 And also on the library client /dev/rmt1 ...

 AH

 -Original Message-
 From: Zoltan Forray/AC/VCU [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 5:46 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Library sharing

 Trying to get ATL library sharing working between two TSM AIX servers.

 I think I finally got the definitions correct..at least they seem to
 function.

 However, I can't get the library client (capella) to use the drives.
Every
 time it does, I get these errors in the activity log:

 03/31/2004 09:54:13  ANR8779E Unable to open drive /dev/rmt1, error
 number=46.
   (SESSION: 2663, PROCESS: 11)

 The library manager says the tape is mounted and ready.

 03/31/2004 09:52:25  ANR8337I 3590 volume 070330 mounted in drive
 ATL-DRIVE2 (/dev/rmt1).
 03/31/2004 09:52:25  ANR9791I Volume 070330 in library 3494ATL ownership
 is changing from TSM-AGENA to TSM-CAPELLA.

 Any suggestions on what might be wrong ?

 AIX messages says the -46 is Drive Not Ready.

 These are FC / SAN attached 3590E1A drives.


Re: Library sharing

2004-03-31 Thread Davidson, Becky
make sure that /dev/rmt1 on source server is the same drive as /dev/rmt1 on
the client server
We discovered that they didn't always come in the same.  It sound like the
server to server communications is working fine.
Becky

-Original Message-
From: Zoltan Forray/AC/VCU [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 10:27 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Library sharing


Well, in this case, it isn't, sortof...

I don't have *ANY* path statements on the client, that refer to these
drives. All that is defined on the client is the SHARED LIBRARY. This is
another TSM server, not just a storage agent.

The path statements on the library manager are duplicated for the client,
pointing to the client as the SOURCE serverand yes, both sets of
definitions point to the same /dev/rmtx.

I am beginning to wonder if it has to do with the different levels of
ATAPE. The client is much newer (8.4.1.0) while the library manager is
8.3.x.

ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 03/31/2004
11:07:04 AM:

 When you define the PATHs on the TSM server for the storage agent on
 the client node, the device= is the name of the tape drive on the
 client, not on the server. You need to match the drive name on the
 TSM server to the correct device name on the client node, then use
 that in the DEFINE PATH. So on your TSM server:

 If library 3584 drive LTO1 points to the /dev/rmt1 device and on the
 storage agent client SA1 that same physical drive is the /dev/rmt3
 device you would use:

 define path SA1 LTO1 srctype=server desttype=drive library=3584
 device=/dev/rmt3

 Bill Boyer
 DSS, Inc.

 -Original Message-
 From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
 Karel Bos
 Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 10:54 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Library sharing


 Hi,

 Can be, but don't have to be the same... In the past I saw some machines
 with different device names for the same devices and it worked well with
 ITSM (on Windows).

 Regards,

 Karel

 -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
 Van: Amos Hagay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Verzonden: woensdag 31 maart 2004 17:46
 Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Onderwerp: Re: Library sharing


 Hi,

 From my experience with 3584 Library, the rmt devices should be
 The same on both machines e.g. server_1 /dev/rmt1 /dev/rmt2 etc...
 And also on the library client /dev/rmt1 ...

 AH

 -Original Message-
 From: Zoltan Forray/AC/VCU [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 5:46 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Library sharing

 Trying to get ATL library sharing working between two TSM AIX servers.

 I think I finally got the definitions correct..at least they seem to
 function.

 However, I can't get the library client (capella) to use the drives.
Every
 time it does, I get these errors in the activity log:

 03/31/2004 09:54:13  ANR8779E Unable to open drive /dev/rmt1, error
 number=46.
   (SESSION: 2663, PROCESS: 11)

 The library manager says the tape is mounted and ready.

 03/31/2004 09:52:25  ANR8337I 3590 volume 070330 mounted in drive
 ATL-DRIVE2 (/dev/rmt1).
 03/31/2004 09:52:25  ANR9791I Volume 070330 in library 3494ATL ownership
 is changing from TSM-AGENA to TSM-CAPELLA.

 Any suggestions on what might be wrong ?

 AIX messages says the -46 is Drive Not Ready.

 These are FC / SAN attached 3590E1A drives.


?Linux TSM service to backup 100 clients to disk-tape?

2004-03-31 Thread James R Owen
Hi Linux TSM Sys.Admins!

None of you responded to my previous query, so I'm trying again.

We are considering to use RedHat EL 3.0 on IA32/64 platform
(rather than AIX on p-series) to host an additional I/O intensive
TSM service (to split our current service and handle half of future
growth.)  We are hoping to build based upon others' experiences.
Are you already using or actively planning to use Linux (RedHat EL 3?)
to host an I/O intensive TSM service similar to any described under the
recent ADSM-L thread, Sizing an AIX platform and tape libraries?
If not, do you have a Linux TSM service backing up 100 clients to
disk - tape storage?  Please describe what you have and what limits
you think might apply to your set up (or reply w/ a phone# if you
would rather just talk.)  Thanks for any advice you care to share!
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (203.432.6693)
=   =   =   from my previous posting=   =   =
We believe we are approaching the maximum that can be achieved w/
   TSM:v5.2.1.3
   OS: AIX 5.1 (64bit)
   CPU:IBM 7025-6F1 w/ 4 * 750Mhz proc's + 3GB RAM
   SAN:1 Gb w/ EMC Symmetrix 8830
   LAN:1 Gb Ethernet
   ATL:IBM 3494 w/ 6 * 3590E drives
   IBM 3584 w/ 4 * 3580 LTO1 + 2 * 3580 LTO2 drives
This configuration is successfully supporting our current ITS TSM service
(see details below), but we believe we either need a major performance
boost or to split this load onto an additional host platform:
   Linux, Win*, or must we remain w/ AIX for I/O performance?
to handle expected additional growth.
Which platform have you chosen (or would you choose) for similar TSM service?

Yale ITS TSM Service:

   Active Clients:  2400 = 3d, 2500 = 7d, 2700 = 35days
   Servers:151
   WinNT,2K*  105
   Linux   20
   Solaris  9
   AIX  7
   SQL-BT (Oracle)  3
   Mac  2
   TDP's: MSSQL,MSexchg:  2 + 1
   [new]2
   Personals:  2549
   WinNT,2K*,XP  2230
   Win98,ME26
   Mac183
   Linux   50
   Solaris  5
   AIX,DEC*X,HPUX,IRIX:  1 ea.
   [new]   51
   Expected growth:  +500-600 clients for several years
   +20% data for existing clients/year?
   TSM DB:  75.7% of 160GB
   BAckup DB w/ LTO1 HCmpr. takes 2.3h
   EXPIre Inv examines ~6M obj, deletes ~1M obj. in 8-9h
   Disk STGpools:  600 + 180GB
   Nightly Backup Period: 15:30-08:00+
   Weeknight Backup Load:  500-650GB+
Thanks for any experience/insight you are willing to share with us!
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (203.432.6693)


Sanity check for DB/2 backup options?

2004-03-31 Thread asr
I've been investigating what options we have for fun tricks to play with our
DB/2 backups to TSM.  The major obstacle to many of our desires seems to be
that the environment and options files are set at the time that the instance
-starts-.  Thus, (for instance) it's not possible to point your running
instance at a new node definition, cut a backup which you would like to treat
differently, and then put it back.

We think that the only options we have for doing this involve dropping stuff
onto DASD, or restarting the instance several times.

Does that sound right to those others of you who are doing DB/2?


- Allen S. Rout


Re: Library sharing

2004-03-31 Thread Bill Boyer
Then substitute storage agent client for library client. You define the
paths on the library manager server. The PATHS reference the library client
servername, the library name (which I believe must be the same name) and the
drive names as defined on the library manager server. You then use the
DEVICE= to point to the /dev/rmtx device on the library client server that
matches the same device on the library manager server. Let's say on the TSM
library manager server:

Library:3584
Drive:  LTO1/dev/rmt1
Drive:  LTO2/dev/rmt2

Your library client server name is LIBCLIENT (or whatever) and you have the
following drives:

/dev/rmt3   Which is the same device as /dev/rmt1 on the library manager
server
/dev/rmt4   Which is the same device as /dev/rmt2 on the library manager
server

If these are fibre, you'll have to get the WWN names (lsattr -El rmtx) on
both/all server and create a matrix that shows which is which on each
server.

Then on the library manager server:

define path libclient lto1 srctype=server desttype=drive library=3584
device=/dev/rmt3
define path libclient lto2 srctype=server desttype=drive library=3584
device=/dev/rmt4

Clear as mud, right?

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
Zoltan Forray/AC/VCU
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 11:27 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Library sharing


Well, in this case, it isn't, sortof...

I don't have *ANY* path statements on the client, that refer to these
drives. All that is defined on the client is the SHARED LIBRARY. This is
another TSM server, not just a storage agent.

The path statements on the library manager are duplicated for the client,
pointing to the client as the SOURCE serverand yes, both sets of
definitions point to the same /dev/rmtx.

I am beginning to wonder if it has to do with the different levels of
ATAPE. The client is much newer (8.4.1.0) while the library manager is
8.3.x.

ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 03/31/2004
11:07:04 AM:

 When you define the PATHs on the TSM server for the storage agent on
 the client node, the device= is the name of the tape drive on the
 client, not on the server. You need to match the drive name on the
 TSM server to the correct device name on the client node, then use
 that in the DEFINE PATH. So on your TSM server:

 If library 3584 drive LTO1 points to the /dev/rmt1 device and on the
 storage agent client SA1 that same physical drive is the /dev/rmt3
 device you would use:

 define path SA1 LTO1 srctype=server desttype=drive library=3584
 device=/dev/rmt3

 Bill Boyer
 DSS, Inc.

 -Original Message-
 From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
 Karel Bos
 Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 10:54 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Library sharing


 Hi,

 Can be, but don't have to be the same... In the past I saw some machines
 with different device names for the same devices and it worked well with
 ITSM (on Windows).

 Regards,

 Karel

 -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
 Van: Amos Hagay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Verzonden: woensdag 31 maart 2004 17:46
 Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Onderwerp: Re: Library sharing


 Hi,

 From my experience with 3584 Library, the rmt devices should be
 The same on both machines e.g. server_1 /dev/rmt1 /dev/rmt2 etc...
 And also on the library client /dev/rmt1 ...

 AH

 -Original Message-
 From: Zoltan Forray/AC/VCU [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 5:46 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Library sharing

 Trying to get ATL library sharing working between two TSM AIX servers.

 I think I finally got the definitions correct..at least they seem to
 function.

 However, I can't get the library client (capella) to use the drives.
Every
 time it does, I get these errors in the activity log:

 03/31/2004 09:54:13  ANR8779E Unable to open drive /dev/rmt1, error
 number=46.
   (SESSION: 2663, PROCESS: 11)

 The library manager says the tape is mounted and ready.

 03/31/2004 09:52:25  ANR8337I 3590 volume 070330 mounted in drive
 ATL-DRIVE2 (/dev/rmt1).
 03/31/2004 09:52:25  ANR9791I Volume 070330 in library 3494ATL ownership
 is changing from TSM-AGENA to TSM-CAPELLA.

 Any suggestions on what might be wrong ?

 AIX messages says the -46 is Drive Not Ready.

 These are FC / SAN attached 3590E1A drives.


Trying to collect backup history of clients

2004-03-31 Thread Balasubramanian Krishnamurthy
hi,

We have TSM 5.1.6.2 on Solaris 2.8.  I am trying to collect the backup
history
attempts for my clients. I have my activity log stored for 14 days. Most of
my backups are
scheduled but some are scripted from the client side. also we have
randomization enabled.
What would be the most appropriate way to collect data on backups
attempted/succeeded.

thanks,
Bala Krishnamurthy
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: Month End Strategies (TDP for Exchange)

2004-03-31 Thread Wayne Prasek
Thanks for all the responses.

Yeah this is exactly what I was thinking about doing.  There is
something that I'm not clear on though.  I can set up a separate storage
pool and management class that would retain the monthly backup's of
exchange for X number of years.  I have to send these tapes offsite and
do not want to keep a copy onsite unless there is a way to expire the
onsite copy after 30 days.  Is this at all possible?

I suppose I could just send all the tapes used in the month end storage
pool offsite along with the DRMEDIA.  I'm not sure what it will be like
tracking the tapes though.  Is this a viable solution or am I missing
something?

***
 Wayne Prasek
 I.T. Support Analyst (Server)
 204-985-1694
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
*** 

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Coats, Jack
Sent: March 30, 2004 2:44 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Month End Strategies (TDP for Exchange)


I have been thinking over this option for someone else.

One option is to set up a separate tape pool (with copy pool if you want
two
copies), and set up a management class for it that expires data after x
years.  Only do a monthly backup of Exchange to this pool.  And make the
copypool version if that is in our requiremets.

Just a thought. ... Let us know what you figure out!

 -Original Message-
 From: Wayne Prasek [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 11:20 AM
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  Month End Strategies (TDP for Exchange)

 I'm wondering what the best strategy to get a month end backup of
 Exchange going.  We would like to keep the backup for an indefinite
 amount of time (most likely a few years).  The backup tape(s) will be
 sent offsite.  Currently we have a nightly backup of Exchange which
 expires after 30 days.

 I have a couple ideas on how to accomplish this.  I want to hear what
 other people are doing.   Thanks in advance.

 ***
  Wayne Prasek
  I.T. Support Analyst (Server)
  204-985-1694
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ***


Re: Library sharing

2004-03-31 Thread Zoltan Forray/AC/VCU
This just gets stranger.

I tried using TAPEUTIL to look at the serial no. of the drives. When I do
a CLOSE of the drive, I also get the ERR 46.

Something is awry !




Bill Boyer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED]
03/31/2004 12:08 PM
Please respond to
ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED]


To
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
cc

Subject
Re: Library sharing






Then substitute storage agent client for library client. You define the
paths on the library manager server. The PATHS reference the library
client
servername, the library name (which I believe must be the same name) and
the
drive names as defined on the library manager server. You then use the
DEVICE= to point to the /dev/rmtx device on the library client server that
matches the same device on the library manager server. Let's say on the
TSM
library manager server:

Library:3584
Drive:  LTO1/dev/rmt1
Drive:  LTO2/dev/rmt2

Your library client server name is LIBCLIENT (or whatever) and you have
the
following drives:

/dev/rmt3   Which is the same device as /dev/rmt1 on the library
manager
server
/dev/rmt4   Which is the same device as /dev/rmt2 on the library manager
server

If these are fibre, you'll have to get the WWN names (lsattr -El rmtx) on
both/all server and create a matrix that shows which is which on each
server.

Then on the library manager server:

define path libclient lto1 srctype=server desttype=drive library=3584
device=/dev/rmt3
define path libclient lto2 srctype=server desttype=drive library=3584
device=/dev/rmt4

Clear as mud, right?

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
Zoltan Forray/AC/VCU
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 11:27 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Library sharing


Well, in this case, it isn't, sortof...

I don't have *ANY* path statements on the client, that refer to these
drives. All that is defined on the client is the SHARED LIBRARY. This is
another TSM server, not just a storage agent.

The path statements on the library manager are duplicated for the client,
pointing to the client as the SOURCE serverand yes, both sets of
definitions point to the same /dev/rmtx.

I am beginning to wonder if it has to do with the different levels of
ATAPE. The client is much newer (8.4.1.0) while the library manager is
8.3.x.

ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 03/31/2004
11:07:04 AM:

 When you define the PATHs on the TSM server for the storage agent on
 the client node, the device= is the name of the tape drive on the
 client, not on the server. You need to match the drive name on the
 TSM server to the correct device name on the client node, then use
 that in the DEFINE PATH. So on your TSM server:

 If library 3584 drive LTO1 points to the /dev/rmt1 device and on the
 storage agent client SA1 that same physical drive is the /dev/rmt3
 device you would use:

 define path SA1 LTO1 srctype=server desttype=drive library=3584
 device=/dev/rmt3

 Bill Boyer
 DSS, Inc.

 -Original Message-
 From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
 Karel Bos
 Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 10:54 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Library sharing


 Hi,

 Can be, but don't have to be the same... In the past I saw some machines
 with different device names for the same devices and it worked well with
 ITSM (on Windows).

 Regards,

 Karel

 -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
 Van: Amos Hagay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Verzonden: woensdag 31 maart 2004 17:46
 Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Onderwerp: Re: Library sharing


 Hi,

 From my experience with 3584 Library, the rmt devices should be
 The same on both machines e.g. server_1 /dev/rmt1 /dev/rmt2 etc...
 And also on the library client /dev/rmt1 ...

 AH

 -Original Message-
 From: Zoltan Forray/AC/VCU [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 5:46 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Library sharing

 Trying to get ATL library sharing working between two TSM AIX servers.

 I think I finally got the definitions correct..at least they seem to
 function.

 However, I can't get the library client (capella) to use the drives.
Every
 time it does, I get these errors in the activity log:

 03/31/2004 09:54:13  ANR8779E Unable to open drive /dev/rmt1, error
 number=46.
   (SESSION: 2663, PROCESS: 11)

 The library manager says the tape is mounted and ready.

 03/31/2004 09:52:25  ANR8337I 3590 volume 070330 mounted in drive
 ATL-DRIVE2 (/dev/rmt1).
 03/31/2004 09:52:25  ANR9791I Volume 070330 in library 3494ATL ownership
 is changing from TSM-AGENA to TSM-CAPELLA.

 Any suggestions on what might be wrong ?

 AIX messages says the -46 is Drive Not Ready.

 These are FC / SAN attached 3590E1A drives.


Re: Trying to collect backup history of clients

2004-03-31 Thread Hart, Charles
Also make sure your Event Record Retention Period: is set to more than 14 days... We 
have our at 32 to catch a full month.

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
Balasubramanian Krishnamurthy
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 11:33 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Trying to collect backup history of clients


hi,

We have TSM 5.1.6.2 on Solaris 2.8.  I am trying to collect the backup
history
attempts for my clients. I have my activity log stored for 14 days. Most of
my backups are
scheduled but some are scripted from the client side. also we have
randomization enabled.
What would be the most appropriate way to collect data on backups
attempted/succeeded.

thanks,
Bala Krishnamurthy
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: TSM, Solaris and Fibre connected drives ?

2004-03-31 Thread Luke Dahl
We are going through two IBM2109 switches, with each drive attached to both
switches for failover purposes.  You still need to add the drives to the
appropriate zones using the wwn's.  I'm not really aware of any good
documentation that covers this, but if you find something please pass it over.
Once you've configured the zones, you should be able to issue: cfgadm -al and
you'll see output similar to this:
c2::5005076300406311   tape connectedconfigured   failing
c2::5005076300406657   tape connectedconfigured   failing
c2::5005076300406687   tape connectedconfigured   failing
c2::5005076300406ae8   tape connectedconfigured   failing
c2::50050763004072a8   tape connectedconfigured   failing
c2::5005076300806311   tape connectedconfigured   failing
c2::5005076300806657   tape connectedconfigured   failing
c2::5005076300806687   tape connectedconfigured   failing
c2::5005076300806ae8   tape connectedconfigured   failing
c2::50050763008072a8   tape connectedconfigured   failing

This is non-operational so the tape devices are in a failing condition
currently.  After the c2:: entry you can see the wwn's for each tape drive.
Tying those back to the st entries is a little more difficult.  One way to
determine which is which (at least in 5.2.2.1) is to define the drives using
the st entry and define a path to the drive.  Once you've done that, the wwn
for the drive will be displayed in q dr f=d:
Library Name: 3494
  Drive Name: 10H1A
 Device Type: 3590
 On-Line: Yes
Read Formats: 3590H-C,3590H-B,3590E-C,3590E-B,3

   3590C,3590B
   Write Formats: 3590H-C,3590H-B
 Element:
 Drive State: EMPTY
Allocated to:
 WWN: 500507636311
   Serial Number: 000A1357
  Last Update by (administrator): LDAHL
   Last Update Date/Time: 03/12/04 10:52:59
and if you issue q path f=d:
   Source Name: TSM05
   Source Type: SERVER
  Destination Name: 10H1A
  Destination Type: DRIVE
   Library: 3494
 Node Name:
Device: /dev/rmt/10st
  External Manager:
   LUN:
 Initiator: 0
 Directory:
   On-Line: Yes
Last Update by (administrator): LDAHL

You can then correlate that /dev/rmt/10st corresponds to the drive with WWN:
500507636311.  It's not the most straightforward but it works.  I believe
one of my system administrators may have developed a workaround and I'll check
with him when he gets back (he's in a training class).  Hope this helps.  One
last note, it appears that every time the system is rebooted it creates new
/dev/rmt entries.  This is extremely bothersome being it keeps adding the
entries with a higher numerical number.  Not sure if we're doing something
wrong on that issue yet.  Still working out the bugs...

Luke
818-354-7117

Farren Minns wrote:

 Was that going through a switch or are the fibre drives directly connected?
 The reason I ask is that I'm unsure how the OS picks up the new devices
 through a switch. We have a SAN, and I'm used to the fact that you have to
 tell the SAN which LUNS are available to which host (using the WWN), but as
 far as I'm aware, you don't do any such thing with drives.

 Do you know of any decent TSM documentation that covers this at all?

 Thanks

 Farren
 |+---+|
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 ||   Manager|   cc:  |
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 ||   Please respond to ADSM:||
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 ||   ||
 |+---+|

 We're doing exactly the same thing now only we're on TSM 5.2.2.1.  Just
 finished some preliminary 

Re: Tape library eval

2004-03-31 Thread Levinson, Donald A.
I am using the ADIC Scalar 1000 with LTO-1 drives. It has been a great
performer for me. 
I am comfortable with ADIC from years of using their products and also
it helps my confort level that IBM OEMs the Scalar 24 and Scalar 100
units as the 3582 and 3583 libraries. 

-Original Message-
From: Bull, Thomas L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 5:19 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Tape library eval


Hello -
I will soon be purchasing a new library, and am evaluating an Overland
NEO 4100
and StorageTek L80. Both appear to be very good and are well suited for
my
environment.
I like the Overland's scalability.
Does anyone have any experience with either of these libraries, and if
so, how
is the support?

thanks,

Tom Bull
Partners Healthcare System, Inc.


Re: TSM, Solaris and Fibre connected drives ?

2004-03-31 Thread Luke Dahl
Hi Farren,
A quick update.  I was mistaken about a couple of things.  The st entries
are created again with a higher numerical value only when you make changes to
the system configuration (adding additional cards, modifying the zone and
removing and re-adding devices, etc.).  Also, if you run cfgadm -al as root the
devices will list the appropriate condition value (I wasn't logged in as root
when I ran it to give you the output).  Hope this helps, give me a call if you
have any other questions or think I can offer any other assistance.

Luke
818-645-5684

Farren Minns wrote:

 Was that going through a switch or are the fibre drives directly connected?
 The reason I ask is that I'm unsure how the OS picks up the new devices
 through a switch. We have a SAN, and I'm used to the fact that you have to
 tell the SAN which LUNS are available to which host (using the WWN), but as
 far as I'm aware, you don't do any such thing with drives.

 Do you know of any decent TSM documentation that covers this at all?

 Thanks

 Farren
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 We're doing exactly the same thing now only we're on TSM 5.2.2.1.  Just
 finished some preliminary testing.  TSM still uses the /dev/rmt/*st entries
 for
 the drives.  There are two st entries for each drive being they have two
 fiber ports.  We had some issues with our fiber cards not supporting the
 drives
 - we went from Qlogic to Emulex and don't have any issues now.  Other than
 that
 it was pretty straightforward.  Once you have defined a drive and a path,
 you
 can see the wwn and trace that back to the drive to come up with a matrix
 so
 you  know which st entry belongs to each drive.

 Luke

 Farren Minns wrote:

  Hi TSMers
 
  Running TSM 5.1.6.2 on a Sun E250 presently connected to 3494 lib with 2
  SCSI 3590 drives (H1A).
 
  I have a question for you.
 
  We will soon be changing the SCSI attached drives for fibre attached
 models
  (still going to be 3590 H1A in the 3494 lib) which will be connected to a
  Brocade switch. Now, I have very little experience with fibre drives and
  was wondering what the steps were both with Solaris (if anybody can help)
  and TSM. I am used to adding SCSI devices to Solaris and then using the
  /dev/rmt/??? format to define the drives to TSM, but I'm assuming this is
  total different with fibre drives. I am assuming that the World Wide Name
  convention will be used somewhere.
 
  Can anyone give me any advice or good documentation pointers etc.
 
  Many thanks in advance
 
  Farren Minns - John Wiley  Sons Ltd


Re: Tape library eval

2004-03-31 Thread CORP Rick Willmore
Just remember that ADIC uses different firmware that what IBM uses.  This has caused 
me some problems.

R.

-Original Message-
From: Levinson, Donald A. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 10:44 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Tape library eval


I am using the ADIC Scalar 1000 with LTO-1 drives. It has been a great
performer for me. 
I am comfortable with ADIC from years of using their products and also
it helps my confort level that IBM OEMs the Scalar 24 and Scalar 100
units as the 3582 and 3583 libraries. 

-Original Message-
From: Bull, Thomas L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 5:19 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Tape library eval


Hello -
I will soon be purchasing a new library, and am evaluating an Overland
NEO 4100
and StorageTek L80. Both appear to be very good and are well suited for
my
environment.
I like the Overland's scalability.
Does anyone have any experience with either of these libraries, and if
so, how
is the support?

thanks,

Tom Bull
Partners Healthcare System, Inc.


tsm and old nodes

2004-03-31 Thread Tim Brown
i have a number of tsm clients that no longer exist physically, either the server was 
replaced
and node name is different on new server or the server was merged with another server

i want to keep the data but i have noticed that these clients still occupy a license.

i have in a few cases, exported the node, deleted the file space, deleted the node
and marked the tape in the event i ever have to get data of it via the inport function

is this the best way to handle this kind of situation how do others handle this

i tried once to reallocate the old filespace so that the new server had references
to the old filespace and the current filespace. that process is too cumbersome

i have some more nodes that dont exist any more and i was going to
export them like i did the others

Tim Brown
Systems Specialist
Central Hudson Gas  Electric
284 South Ave
Poughkeepsie, NY 12601
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Phone: 845-486-5643
Fax: 845-486-5921


A Grumble, and a hint.

2004-03-31 Thread asr
Good day all.

I'm doing some DR exercises, and I just made a somewhat irritating
observation.

After you have DSMSERV FORMAT [...]


If you DSMSERV RESTORE DB


then the process gives you a dumb look.  You have to do

DSMSERV RESTORE DB [ date and time parameters ]

which _appear_ to require that you specify the point in time of the last DB
backup.

However, if you get it wrong (too recent or such) then the restore goes
perfectly nicely, and picks up the most recent backup available.


In fact, if you specify TOD=01/01/2200 TOT=00:00:00

That is, midnight, Jan 1 of 2200,

or even

TOD=TODAY TOT=NOW

it works JUST fine.

Now why couldn't those otherwise bright folks have made 'tod=today, tot=now'
the default values of those options, and just accept 'RESTORE DB' as meaning
get me the best you can.

Dumb bunnies.


- Allen S. Rout
- Grumpy afternoon.


SAPR3 anomalies with occupancy

2004-03-31 Thread James Holdren
Folks I need some help understanding this...

I have a 4.2.3 TSM server running on AIX 4.3.3 with a 5.1.6 TSM client
running on AIX 5.1

The DB shows there are 878 archive files from the following select
statement but when I look at the occupancy it only shows a total of 372
files.  And I don't even think the Archive table keeps track of the files
in the Copypool.  Could someone please try to explain the discrepancy?

And more troubling than that, and purhaps a reason for the discrepancy, is
that when I look at each archived file ( select * from archives ...) from
this node I see more than half of them are in the /tdp filespace of which
'q occ' shows no occupancy at all l!

tsm: ADSMselect count(*) from archives where node_name='DEVEL_DB'
ANR2963W This SQL query may produce a very large result table, or may
require a significant amount of time to compute.

Do you wish to proceed? (Yes (Y)/No (N)) y

 Unnamed[1]
---
878

tsm: ADSMq fi devel_db

Node NameFilespaceFSID   Platform  Filespace   Is Files-  Capacity
Pct
 Name  Type  pace (MB)
Util
Unicode?
---  ---       --  -  
-
DEVEL_DB /tdp1   TDPR3AIX  API:XINTV3 No   0.0
0.0
DEVEL_DB /tdpmux 2   TDPR3AIX  API:XINTV3 No   0.0
0.0

tsm: ADSMq occ devel_db


Physical Logical

Space   Space
Node Name   Type  Filespace   FSID Storage Number of
OccupiedOccupied
  Name Pool Name   Files
(MB)(MB)
--    --   --  -
--  --
DEVEL_DBArch  /tdpmux2 SAP_PROD_CPOOL186
963,156.55  963,156.55
DEVEL_DBArch  /tdpmux2 SAP_PROD_TPOOL186
963,156.55  963,156.55


James (J) Holdren
E-Business Storage Management  -  Enterprise Storage Services  -  Service
Delivery Center / South  -  IBM Global Services
Pager:  800-759-  pin 1061062 Office:  919-543-2213  t/l 441-2213
Fax:  919-543-9196

Re: tsm and old nodes

2004-03-31 Thread Mike Bantz
Just a thought:

Restore the files to another server, run a backup, whack the files. Then
your standard retention period for that server/directory as defined in your
mgt class will apply.

For instance, we would do this by restoring this to one of our Netapps and
then backing it up. At least the data would be there, dunno about how it'd
handle any system object data...

HTH,
Mike Bantz
Systems Administrator
Research Systems, Inc

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
Tim Brown
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 1:56 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: tsm and old nodes


i have a number of tsm clients that no longer exist physically, either the
server was replaced
and node name is different on new server or the server was merged with
another server

i want to keep the data but i have noticed that these clients still occupy a
license.

i have in a few cases, exported the node, deleted the file space, deleted
the node
and marked the tape in the event i ever have to get data of it via the
inport function

is this the best way to handle this kind of situation how do others handle
this

i tried once to reallocate the old filespace so that the new server had
references
to the old filespace and the current filespace. that process is too
cumbersome

i have some more nodes that dont exist any more and i was going to
export them like i did the others

Tim Brown
Systems Specialist
Central Hudson Gas  Electric
284 South Ave
Poughkeepsie, NY 12601
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Phone: 845-486-5643
Fax: 845-486-5921


Re: tsm and old nodes

2004-03-31 Thread David Smith
Given that TSM is licensed by processor now and not node (the internal licensing does 
not seem to have cought up with the new model) you should be able to have as many node 
definitions as you want.  Retired nodes have 0 processors and therefore require 0 
licenses.  The TSM 'managed system for LAN' license field should be updated to 
'managed system for LAN CPU' to be in line with the actual license model.  This is my 
take on the issue anyway.
 
If the above holds true, I would not worry about moving any of the old node data.  
Just leave it as it is.
 
David Smith
Technical Specialist
Business Services and Resources

-Original Message- 
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager on behalf of Tim Brown 
Sent: Thu 4/1/2004 6:56 AM 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Cc: 
Subject: tsm and old nodes



i have a number of tsm clients that no longer exist physically, either the 
server was replaced
and node name is different on new server or the server was merged with another 
server

i want to keep the data but i have noticed that these clients still occupy a 
license.

i have in a few cases, exported the node, deleted the file space, deleted the 
node
and marked the tape in the event i ever have to get data of it via the inport 
function

is this the best way to handle this kind of situation how do others handle this

i tried once to reallocate the old filespace so that the new server had 
references
to the old filespace and the current filespace. that process is too cumbersome

i have some more nodes that dont exist any more and i was going to
export them like i did the others

Tim Brown
Systems Specialist
Central Hudson Gas  Electric
284 South Ave
Poughkeepsie, NY 12601
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Phone: 845-486-5643
Fax: 845-486-5921