Re: Deleting Volumes on Copy Storage pool

2009-02-05 Thread Todd D. Taft

Assuming that you have a valid copy of all data on the copy pool volume
stored in one of your primary pools, it should not.  Normally, you would
always have all data in your primary pools; the main exception to this
would be if you had a primary pool tape/disk go bad and you had not yet
restored the primary pool data from the copy pool.

--Todd

Sabar Martin Hasiholan Panggabean wrote:

Dear All,

I have one question, if we create copy pool and if we delete the volume inside 
the copy pool. Will it effect the primary ?

BR,


Martin Panggabean



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Todd D. Taft
todd_t...@unc.edu


OS/390 or z/OS as Tivoli Clients

2009-02-05 Thread Mehdi Salehi
Hi,
Is it possible to setup z/OS as a client of TSM server for AIX? The goal is
backing up files as well as DB2 backups from mainframe while TSM server is
installed on AIX. My doubt comes from the different storage standards of
mainframe and open systems such as FICON and Fibre Channel. If yes, is it
free to add mainframe to an existing TSM solution? (I'v read somewhere that
Tivoli Data Protection for DB2 is included in DB2)

Regards,
Mehdi Salehi


Re: Is TDP for Oracle LAN/Server free?

2009-02-05 Thread Stef Coene
On Thursday 05 February 2009, Mehdi Salehi wrote:
 Hi,
 Correct me if I am mistaken:
 1- Tivoli Data Protection for Oracle (TDPO) sends RMAN backup to storage
 pools via SAN (it is LAN-free).
It depends.  It is the TSM API (not the normal TSM backup client) that
receives the data for rman.  It sends the data over the LAN or the SAN to the
TSM server depending on how you configure it.

 2- LAN-free mechanism of TDPO is automatic, as long as the TSM and Oracle
 server are on the same SAN. I mean, there is no additional configuration
 needed to enable LAN-free cabability.
No, you need to configure the TSM API for SAN based backup.  Also some
configuration on the SAN and TSM server must be done.  A SAN backup is also
going directly to tape.

 3- RMAN does not affect the Oracle server CPU usage and I/O activity.
No, the data has to be written and processed so there is extra CPU usage and
lots of extra (read) I/O activity.


Stef


Re: Can mixed incremental/selective backups be used to consolidate offsite data?

2009-02-05 Thread Davis, Adrian
Richard,

I'm mainly concerned about the Offsite volumes. We have a small library
(IBM 3583) and a limited budget, so I was hoping for a simple
work-around to this issue. Never mind - I guess we'll just have to live
with it.

Best Regards,
   =Adrian=


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Richard Sims
Sent: 04 February 2009 13:05
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Can mixed incremental/selective backups be used to
consolidate offsite data?

Adrian -

The key word collocation does not appear in your question.  That's the
architectural solution to keeping related data together.
Collocation is conventionally used for onsite volumes, but not for
offsite volumes, given the substantial tape management complications
that would occur with partially filled volumes: offsite volumes are
usually not collocated, for that reason - but could be.

   Richard Sims

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Re: OS/390 or z/OS as Tivoli Clients

2009-02-05 Thread Richard Sims

The client that there is is part of z/OS USS.
See Technote 1052224 and the Unix client manual.

   Richard Sims


TSM TDP LAN backup

2009-02-05 Thread Abayomi Oni
Kindly Help,
I have just finished installing and configuring TSM client 5.4.0.0 and TDP 
5.4.1.0 for LAN backup.

I got this error message when I initiate TSM/RMAN backup,

Recovery Manager: Release 10.2.0.1.0 - Production on Thu Feb 5 12:47:39 2009

Copyright (c) 1982, 2005, Oracle.  All rights reserved.

connected to target database: FCMBTB (DBID=585242614)

RMAN RUN {
2 allocate channel t1 type 'sbt_tape' parms 
'ENV=(TDPO_OPTFILE=/usr/tivoli/tsm/client/oracle/bin64/tdpo.opt)';
3 allocate channel t2 type 'sbt_tape' parms 
'ENV=(TDPO_OPTFILE=/usr/tivoli/tsm/client/oracle/bin64/tdpo.opt)';
4
5 backup format 'DF_%d_%s_%p' filesperset 10 (database include current 
controlfile);
6
7 sql 'alter system archive log current';
8
9 backup format 'AR_%d_%s_%p' (archivelog all delete input);
10
11 release channel t1;
12 release channel t2;
13 }
14
using target database control file instead of recovery catalog
RMAN-00571: ===
RMAN-00569: === ERROR MESSAGE STACK FOLLOWS ===
RMAN-00571: ===
RMAN-03009: failure of allocate command on t1 channel at 02/05/2009 12:47:40
ORA-19554: error allocating device, device type: SBT_TAPE, device name:
ORA-27211: Failed to load Media Management Library
Additional information: 2

Recovery Manager complete.


Please help, what I am getting doing  with LAN configuration?
Any pointer to relevant documentations will be appreciated

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Re: Can mixed incremental/selective backups be used to consolidate offsite data?

2009-02-05 Thread Keith Arbogast

Adrian,
Perhaps I am misunderstanding what you are trying to do, but 'move
nodedata nodename fromstg=copypool name ...' is legal. I have
used it several times. My copypool is on an offsite tape library.
Best wishes,
Keith Arbogast


Re: TSM TDP LAN backup

2009-02-05 Thread Jorge Amil
Hi,
Try de following:
 
# rm /usr/lib/libobk.a
 # ln -s /usr/tivoli/tsm/client/oracle/bin64/libobk64.a /usr/lib/libobk.a

# rm /$ORACLE_HOME/lib/libobk.a
# ln -s /usr/lib/libobk.a  /$ORACLE_HOME/lib/libobk.a
 
 
 
# ln -f /usr/tivoli/tsm/client/oracle/bin64/libobk64.a  
/usr/lib/libobk.a   (cuando sea un oracle 10)
 Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 13:22:45 +0100 From: abayomi@firstcitygroup.com 
 Subject: [ADSM-L] TSM TDP LAN backup To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU  Kindly 
 Help, I have just finished installing and configuring TSM client 5.4.0.0 and 
 TDP 5.4.1.0 for LAN backup.  I got this error message when I initiate 
 TSM/RMAN backup,  Recovery Manager: Release 10.2.0.1.0 - Production on Thu 
 Feb 5 12:47:39 2009  Copyright (c) 1982, 2005, Oracle. All rights 
 reserved.  connected to target database: FCMBTB (DBID=585242614)  RMAN 
 RUN { 2 allocate channel t1 type 'sbt_tape' parms 
 'ENV=(TDPO_OPTFILE=/usr/tivoli/tsm/client/oracle/bin64/tdpo.opt)'; 3 
 allocate channel t2 type 'sbt_tape' parms 
 'ENV=(TDPO_OPTFILE=/usr/tivoli/tsm/client/oracle/bin64/tdpo.opt)'; 4 5 
 backup format 'DF_%d_%s_%p' filesperset 10 (database include current 
 controlfile); 6 7 sql 'alter system archive log current'; 8 9 backup 
 format 'AR_%d_%s_%p' (archivelog all delete input); 10 11 release channel 
 t1; 12 release channel t2; 13 } 14 using target database control file 
 instead of recovery catalog RMAN-00571: 
 === RMAN-00569: 
 === ERROR MESSAGE STACK FOLLOWS === RMAN-00571: 
 === RMAN-03009: 
 failure of allocate command on t1 channel at 02/05/2009 12:47:40 ORA-19554: 
 error allocating device, device type: SBT_TAPE, device name: ORA-27211: 
 Failed to load Media Management Library Additional information: 2  
 Recovery Manager complete.   Please help, what I am getting doing with LAN 
 configuration? Any pointer to relevant documentations will be appreciated  
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Re: Restore Question

2009-02-05 Thread Andrew Raibeck
Craig, I recommend you take a look at this flash that went out around end
of October last year, to see if it applies:

http://www.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg21322625

Best regards,

Andy

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Tivoli Storage Manager Client Product Development
Level 3 Team Lead
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ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 02/04/2009
10:36:38 PM:

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 Restore Question

 Craig Ross

 to:

 ADSM-L

 02/04/2009 10:37 PM

 Sent by:

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 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager

 I have an annoying issue.
 I have never encountered this before.

 I have 6 files, three the same, all deactivated.

 TSM client states the files are this large.  Which is correct.

 tsm q backup -ina D:\data\SHARED\Systems Operating Centre\Systems
 Management C
 entre\Server Team - Unix\password-safe-db\*
SizeBackup DateMgmt Class A/I
 File
----- ---
 
  *9,224 * *B*  09-01-2009 21:37:40 DEFAULT
 I  \\blah\d$\data\SHARED\Systems Operating Centre\Systems Management
 Centre\Server
  Team - Unix\Password-Safe-DB\prod_unix.ibak
 *13,784 * *B*  13-01-2009 21:24:00 DEFAULT
 I  \\blah\d$\data\SHARED\Systems Operating Centre\Systems Management
 Centre\Server
  Team - Unix\Password-Safe-DB\prod_unix.ibak
 * 9,224*  *B*  09-01-2009 21:37:40 DEFAULT
 I  \\blah\d$\data\SHARED\Systems Operating Centre\Systems Management
 Centre\Server
  Team - Unix\Password-Safe-DB\prod_unix.psafe3
 *13,784*  *B*  13-01-2009 21:24:00 DEFAULT
 I  \\blah\d$\data\SHARED\Systems Operating Centre\Systems Management
 Centre\Server
  Team - Unix\Password-Safe-DB\prod_unix.psafe3
 *48*  *B*  09-01-2009 21:37:41 DEFAULT
 I  \\blah\d$\data\SHARED\Systems Operating Centre\Systems Management
 Centre\Server
  Team - Unix\Password-Safe-DB\prod_unix.psafe3.plk
 *48*  *B*  16-01-2009 22:10:24 DEFAULT
 I  \\blah\d$\data\SHARED\Systems Operating Centre\Systems Management
 Centre\Server
  Team - Unix\Password-Safe-DB\prod_unix.psafe3.plk


 Problem is once the files are restored the files are all either 0 K or 1
KB
 in size.  empty files

 Restore complete with no error.
 There are no errors in Act log for the backup run at these times.

 Has anyone ever seen these behavior before???

 Thanks everyone.

 Craig


Re: syntax question

2009-02-05 Thread Whitlock, Brett
Thank you Mark, Andy, Wanda, Shawn, and Yudi.  
Your suggestions are doing the trick.
Brett

 

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Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 11:37 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] syntax question

I would only condone using this if a different node name is used to back
up the .pst files than are used to back up the other files.

Do not use INCLUDE/EXCLUDE to accomplish this for a given node.
Otherwise when you run the incremental backup that includes the .pst
files, they will be backed up (if changed). Then when you run the
incremental backup that excludes the .pst files, the existing backup
versions will be expired on the TSM server, subjecting them to
VERDELETED and RETONLY settings. It is never a good idea to bounce
back and forth between including and excluding files like this.

If you really need to back the files up in this fashion, you can use
separate options files as you describe, but make sure each uses a unique
node name. This makes restore slightly more complicated in that you'll
need to remember to run the restore for both nodes.

A (perhaps) simpler approach would be to just let the other files
backup also back up .pst files (if it can), then schedule a separate
backup to run later that targets the *.pst files specifically. This type
of play is called a punt. :-)

Best regards,

Andy

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Tivoli Storage Manager Client Product Development Level 3 Team Lead
Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/i...@ibmus Internet e-mail:
stor...@us.ibm.com

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ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 02/04/2009
11:36:45 AM:

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 Re: syntax question

 Mark Stapleton

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 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager

 Use two option files and point a different scheduler service at each 
 of
them.

 One option file should read:

 Exclude *:\...\*
 Include *:\...\*.pst

 The other should read:

 Exclude *:\...\*.pst

 --

 Mark Stapleton (mark.staple...@cdw.com) System engineer, CDW Office 
 763.592.5963
 7145 Boone Avenue North, Suite 140
 Brooklyn Park MN 55428-1511


 -Original Message-
 From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf 
 Of Whitlock, Brett
 Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 10:30 AM
 To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
 Subject: [ADSM-L] syntax question

 Hi List,

 Server TSM 5.4 on Windows
 Client 5.5 on Windows

 Here's what I'm trying to do.  Run 1 incremental on a file server with

 all .pst files excluded.  Then, run a separate incremental with only 
 the .pst files.
 I have  c: e: and f: drives

 DescriptionONLY for backing up .PST's on file server
 ActionINCREMENTAL
 Options-subdir=yes -include *:\...\*.pst
 ObjectsC:\*.pst E:\*.pst F:\*.pst


 sched.log reports:

 02/03/2009 23:51:27 ANS1389W Invalid option (-INCLUDE) for the 
 scheduled INCREMENTAL command
 02/03/2009 23:51:27 --- SCHEDULEREC OBJECT BEGIN MMA_DAILY_PST_BACKUP
 02/03/2009 23:00:00
 02/03/2009 23:51:27 ANS1149E No domain is available for incremental 
 backup. The domain may be empty or all file systems in the domain are 
 excluded.
 02/03/2009 23:51:27 ANS5083E Drive specification contains wildcard 
 character.

 Can someone point me in the right direction?

 Thanks,
 Brett

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Re: OS/390 or z/OS as Tivoli Clients

2009-02-05 Thread Gee, Norman
This client only backs up the Unix Subsystem and not the traditional MVS
datasets. You will not be able to get to the DB2 datasets.  Regular MVS
backup tools does not allow individual file restore from the Unix
Subsystem.  I have TSM for z/OS, both client and server. The TDP for
database (Oracle, SQL) does not have a z/OS version.

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of
Richard Sims
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 4:12 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: OS/390 or z/OS as Tivoli Clients

The client that there is is part of z/OS USS.
See Technote 1052224 and the Unix client manual.

Richard Sims


TSM v6 - article up on SearchStorage

2009-02-05 Thread Richard Rhodes
http://searchdatabackup.techtarget.com/news/article/0,289142,sid187_gci1346956,00.html


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Re: Re: ISC/Admin Center and Windows 2008

2009-02-05 Thread km
The final answer to this question if anyone is interested is that the ISC for
TSM 5.5 (6.x) wont be released for Windows 2008.

The ISC for TSM 6.1 will support TSM 5.3, 5.4 and 5.5 on Windows 2008.

Really annoying gap in server/GUI OS support but I'm not really surprised.

-km

On 02/02, Christian Svensson wrote:
 I have onyl be able to install ISC 7.0 (TSM 6.1) on Windows Server 2008.
 I'm guessing Windows Server 2008 will only be supported by ISC 7 (TSM 6.1).
 
 Have you ask your Tivoli Storage Rep for more information?
 
 Best Regards
 Christian Svensson
 
 Cell: +46-70-325 1577
 E-mail: christian.svens...@cristie.se
 Skype: cristie.christian.svensson
 
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 [...@grogg.org]
 Skickat: den 2 februari 2009 10:59
 Till: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
 Ämne: ISC/Admin Center and Windows 2008
 
 Hello,
 
 Is there any word on when the ISC/Admin Center will be supported on
 Windows 2008?
 
 And has anyone been successful in installing the Admin Center on 2008
 even though it is not supported?
 
 -km


Re: Restore Question

2009-02-05 Thread Craig TSM

Hi Andy,

I am currently at home so I cannot 100% confirm my compression settings,
but those symptoms read exactly what I am seeing.
Andy thanks for the detail.

These kind of 'features' really start to hurt customers.

Cheers   (I think)


Andrew Raibeck wrote:

Craig, I recommend you take a look at this flash that went out around end
of October last year, to see if it applies:

http://www.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg21322625

Best regards,

Andy

Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Product Development
Level 3 Team Lead
Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/i...@ibmus
Internet e-mail: stor...@us.ibm.com

IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page:
http://www.ibm.com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/IBMTivoliStorageManager.html


The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
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Good enough is the enemy of excellence.

ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 02/04/2009
10:36:38 PM:



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Restore Question

Craig Ross

to:

ADSM-L

02/04/2009 10:37 PM

Sent by:

ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU

Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager

I have an annoying issue.
I have never encountered this before.

I have 6 files, three the same, all deactivated.

TSM client states the files are this large.  Which is correct.

tsm q backup -ina D:\data\SHARED\Systems Operating Centre\Systems
Management C
entre\Server Team - Unix\password-safe-db\*
   SizeBackup DateMgmt Class A/I
File
   ----- ---

 *9,224 * *B*  09-01-2009 21:37:40 DEFAULT
I  \\blah\d$\data\SHARED\Systems Operating Centre\Systems Management
Centre\Server
 Team - Unix\Password-Safe-DB\prod_unix.ibak
*13,784 * *B*  13-01-2009 21:24:00 DEFAULT
I  \\blah\d$\data\SHARED\Systems Operating Centre\Systems Management
Centre\Server
 Team - Unix\Password-Safe-DB\prod_unix.ibak
* 9,224*  *B*  09-01-2009 21:37:40 DEFAULT
I  \\blah\d$\data\SHARED\Systems Operating Centre\Systems Management
Centre\Server
 Team - Unix\Password-Safe-DB\prod_unix.psafe3
*13,784*  *B*  13-01-2009 21:24:00 DEFAULT
I  \\blah\d$\data\SHARED\Systems Operating Centre\Systems Management
Centre\Server
 Team - Unix\Password-Safe-DB\prod_unix.psafe3
*48*  *B*  09-01-2009 21:37:41 DEFAULT
I  \\blah\d$\data\SHARED\Systems Operating Centre\Systems Management
Centre\Server
 Team - Unix\Password-Safe-DB\prod_unix.psafe3.plk
*48*  *B*  16-01-2009 22:10:24 DEFAULT
I  \\blah\d$\data\SHARED\Systems Operating Centre\Systems Management
Centre\Server
 Team - Unix\Password-Safe-DB\prod_unix.psafe3.plk


Problem is once the files are restored the files are all either 0 K or 1


KB


in size.  empty files

Restore complete with no error.
There are no errors in Act log for the backup run at these times.

Has anyone ever seen these behavior before???

Thanks everyone.

Craig






Oracle TDP restore performance

2009-02-05 Thread john bremer

All,


This is a question similar to one that was recently posted but never
quite answered:

http://www.mail-archive.com/adsm-l@vm.marist.edu/msg79786.html

We have a user who backs up Oracle databases on AIX 5.3 using RMAN and
the TDP 5.4 to a TSM 5.3 server. He uses 12 RMAN channels to back up a
few hundred GB database to a TSM disk pool in ~1 hour. A restore of the
same data takes 7 hours even though the data stays on disk and RMAN is
told to use 8 restore channels. A q session on the TSM server during
the restore shows only 1 restore session for the node.

Our first thought was to increase the ResourceUtilization  option on
the client and MaxMountPoint option for the node on the TSM server.
However, the Linux-UNIX TSM client manual states that If all of the
files are on disk, only one session is used. There is no multi-session
for a pure disk storage pool restore.

Anyone have any hints or tips on how to speed up a pure disk Oracle
RMAN/TDP restore? Is the solution that we should flush the db backups to
tape in order to be able to make use of ResourceUtilization and
MaxMountPoints settings?


John Bremer
LANS LLC, Tivoli Backup


Re: Can mixed incremental/selective backups be used to consolidate offsite data?

2009-02-05 Thread Bob Levad
Adrian,

We mostly use collocation by group for this issue, but we have upon occasion
done as you suggest and have run a selective to consolidate a particular
client's data.  We have also renamed filespaces which forces a full
incremental.  When we do this, we include the date (as in
\\mynode\c$_20090205) so we can look back after a couple of months and
discard the old filespace.

Bob.

-Original Message-
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Davis, Adrian
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 2:58 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Can mixed incremental/selective backups be used to
consolidate offsite data?

Richard,

I'm mainly concerned about the Offsite volumes. We have a small library
(IBM 3583) and a limited budget, so I was hoping for a simple
work-around to this issue. Never mind - I guess we'll just have to live
with it.

Best Regards,
   =Adrian=


-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of
Richard Sims
Sent: 04 February 2009 13:05
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Can mixed incremental/selective backups be used to
consolidate offsite data?

Adrian -

The key word collocation does not appear in your question.  That's the
architectural solution to keeping related data together.
Collocation is conventionally used for onsite volumes, but not for
offsite volumes, given the substantial tape management complications
that would occur with partially filled volumes: offsite volumes are
usually not collocated, for that reason - but could be.

   Richard Sims

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