Antwort: Re: Antwort: Volumes Private with NO stgpool last use DATA

2002-12-27 Thread Markus Veit
Hi Robin,
that's true, the message goes something like status of volume  blah blah has
changed to private to prevent reaccess,
but the volume has no last use when you do a q libv   volume it is just
private, not private  and last use data

Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Best Regards

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Markus,

I've seen that also... I think what happens is TSM tries to use a tape that
has been deleted as a scratch, but encounters a problem of some kind, so it
marks the tape provate to prevent it being used again.  If that is the
case, you should see a message in the activity log indicating the
condition.  Do a query of the actlog searching for the tape volser and you
should see the message.

HTH
Robin Sharpe



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Hi,
thats the thing, there are no records in the volume history, but still
Private
with Data
Seems like a bug to me, or a feature for tape manufactures :-)

Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Best Regards

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To find out what TSM actually did with that volume, you can use this SQL
query:

SELECT * FROM VOLHISTORY WHERE VOLUME_NAME='volser'

This will give you a history of how TSM used that tape, and the last entry
is the final status of the volume. If the tapes are truely not assigned to
anything (stgp, dbbackup, backupset, export,...) then just CHECKOUT LIBV
with REM=NO and check them back in as STAT=SCR.

Bill Boyer
DSS, Inc.
Some days you're the bug, some days you're the windshield. -- ??

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Database backup tapes will also show up as private, data, with no
associated
storage pool.

Douglas C. Nelson
Distributed Computing Consultant
Alltel Information Services
Chittenden Data Center
2 Burlington Square
Burlington, Vt. 05401
802-660-2336



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Hi TSMers,
does

Antwort: Re: Antwort: Volumes Private with NO stgpool last use DATA

2002-12-27 Thread Markus Veit
Hi Bill,
indeed they are checked in as scratch, so there seems to be a bug somewhere for
the volumes not to automattically return to scratch

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Then I would CHECKOUT LIBV library volume REM=NO CHECKL=NO and then
CHECKIN LIBV library SEARCH=YES STAT=SCR CHECKL=B and see if TSM lets you
check them in as scratch.

Bill Boyer
DSS, Inc.

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Hi,
thats the thing, there are no records in the volume history, but still
Private
with Data
Seems like a bug to me, or a feature for tape manufactures :-)

Mit freundlichen Gr|_en / Best Regards

Markus Veit






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To find out what TSM actually did with that volume, you can use this SQL
query:

SELECT * FROM VOLHISTORY WHERE VOLUME_NAME='volser'

This will give you a history of how TSM used that tape, and the last entry
is the final status of the volume. If the tapes are truely not assigned to
anything (stgp, dbbackup, backupset, export,...) then just CHECKOUT LIBV
with REM=NO and check them back in as STAT=SCR.

Bill Boyer
DSS, Inc.
Some days you're the bug, some days you're the windshield. -- ??

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Database backup tapes will also show up as private, data, with no associated
storage pool.

Douglas C. Nelson
Distributed Computing Consultant
Alltel Information Services
Chittenden Data Center
2 Burlington Square
Burlington, Vt. 05401
802-660-2336



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Hi TSMers,
does anybode have an idea on why volumes in a library have a status of
Private
with last use Data
but do not belong to a storagepool. Volumes with a status of private with no
last use are defect, ie can't read the label.
volume_name LIBRARY_NAME  STATUS  LAST_USEACCESS
41L1ADIC100 Private Data
01L1ADIC100 Private Data
68L1ADIC100 Private Data
61L1ADIC100 Private Data
51L1ADIC100 Private Data
47L1ADIC100 Private Data
45L1ADIC100 Private Data
79L1ADIC100 Private Data
08L1ADIC100 Private Data
02L1

Re: Antwort: Re: Antwort: Volumes Private with NO stgpool last use DATA

2002-12-27 Thread Bill Boyer
What is the error you are seeing right before TSM announces the tapes are
being marked Private?? Have you tried to LABEL LIBV them? Maybe they don't
have a valid internal label?

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Hi Bill,
indeed they are checked in as scratch, so there seems to be a bug somewhere
for
the volumes not to automattically return to scratch

Mit freundlichen Gr|_en / Best Regards

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Then I would CHECKOUT LIBV library volume REM=NO CHECKL=NO and then
CHECKIN LIBV library SEARCH=YES STAT=SCR CHECKL=B and see if TSM lets you
check them in as scratch.

Bill Boyer
DSS, Inc.

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Hi,
thats the thing, there are no records in the volume history, but still
Private
with Data
Seems like a bug to me, or a feature for tape manufactures :-)

Mit freundlichen Gr|_en / Best Regards

Markus Veit






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To find out what TSM actually did with that volume, you can use this SQL
query:

SELECT * FROM VOLHISTORY WHERE VOLUME_NAME='volser'

This will give you a history of how TSM used that tape, and the last entry
is the final status of the volume. If the tapes are truely not assigned to
anything (stgp, dbbackup, backupset, export,...) then just CHECKOUT LIBV
with REM=NO and check them back in as STAT=SCR.

Bill Boyer
DSS, Inc.
Some days you're the bug, some days you're the windshield. -- ??

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Database backup tapes will also show up as private, data, with no associated
storage pool.

Douglas C. Nelson
Distributed Computing Consultant
Alltel Information Services
Chittenden Data Center
2 Burlington Square
Burlington, Vt. 05401
802-660-2336



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Hi TSMers,
does anybode have an idea on why volumes in a library have a status of
Private
with last use Data
but do not belong to a storagepool. Volumes with a status of private with no
last use are defect, ie can't read the label.
volume_name LIBRARY_NAME  STATUS  LAST_USEACCESS
41L1ADIC100 Private Data
01L1ADIC100 Private Data
68L1ADIC100 Private Data
61L1ADIC100 Private Data
51L1ADIC100 Private Data
47L1ADIC100 Private Data
45L1ADIC100 Private Data
79L1ADIC100 Private Data
08L1ADIC100 Private Data
02L1ADIC100 Private Data
000135L1ADIC100 Private Data
06L1ADIC100 Private Data
09L1ADIC100 Private Data
22L1ADIC100 Private Data
TSM Server 4.2.1.9
W2k  SP3

Mit freundlichen Gr|_en / Best Regards

Markus Veit



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Re: Antwort: Re: Antwort: Volumes Private with NO stgpool last use DATA

2002-12-27 Thread Richard Sims
indeed they are checked in as scratch, so there seems to be a bug somewhere
for the volumes not to automattically return to scratch

Again, check your Activity Log for what events surrounded the historical use
of the volumes.  (Your Activity Log retention, one way or another, should extend
back in time at least several months, as necessary evidence of what's happening
in your company's backup system.)  If the volumes were Defined to be in a storage
pool, they would stay in the storage pool when emptied.



Re: Antwort: Re: Antwort: Volumes Private with NO stgpool last use DATA

2002-12-27 Thread Robin Sharpe
In that case, I would try re-labeling with overwrite=yes.  If that
doesn't work, they may be defective.  Were they ever used, or are they
brand-new?
Robin


   

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Hi Robin,
that's true, the message goes something like status of volume  blah
blah has
changed to private to prevent reaccess,
but the volume has no last use when you do a q libv   volume it is
just
private, not private  and last use data

Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Best Regards

Markus Veit







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Markus,

I've seen that also... I think what happens is TSM tries to use a tape that
has been deleted as a scratch, but encounters a problem of some kind, so it
marks the tape provate to prevent it being used again.  If that is the
case, you should see a message in the activity log indicating the
condition.  Do a query of the actlog searching for the tape volser and you
should see the message.

HTH
Robin Sharpe



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Hi,
thats the thing, there are no records in the volume history, but still
Private
with Data
Seems like a bug to me, or a feature for tape manufactures :-)

Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Best Regards

Markus Veit






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To find out what TSM actually did with that volume, you can use this SQL
query:

SELECT * FROM VOLHISTORY WHERE VOLUME_NAME='volser'

This will give you a history of how TSM used that tape, and the last entry
is the final status of the volume