Perl currently in the top #10 on TIOBE
Did you know that #Perl is currently within the top 10 on TIOBE for job relevance: http://www.tiobe.com/tiobe_index Share that. -- Ciao Richard Foley http://www.rfi.net/books.html
Re: Propose for LINUX kernel and PERL
A useful Monks link here: http://www.perlmonks.org/?node=339754 and: http://www.foo.be/docs/tpj/issues/vol5_2/tpj0502-0009.html -- Ciao Richard Foley http://www.rfi.net/books.html On Sun, Jan 05, 2014 at 12:46:00AM -0500, Antti Heikkinen wrote: To Dear Perl and LINUX kernel development community: My propose to you at your list: is possible to write operate system in PERL? I am student in university, looked for interest project to conclude my study on LINUX kernel. This semester, I take beginner PERL course and learn power of procedural language. I automate many daily task with use of it. Very impressive ability to make many thing work, interpret or can compile also. Also about LINUX, I talk to much fellow students and professors, and take a operate system course use FreeBSD and LINUX. FreeBSD okay, but they say LINUX kernel is too big and bloat, run poor with too many developer. And too much quick decision from leader with ego is too big and bloat too, kekeke. LINUX kernel can perform more good if written in not C and C++ but Perl? Just certain portion of LINUX kernel to rewrite? For instant, schedule or support of multithread? If so, should use Perl5 or Perl6, focus to x86 or x86-64? Can you want to join me this my project? But to hear your expertise. Am excited to learn and begin study project. Can you want to join this my project? Please direct reply of email to myself. Much thank to you, Antti Heikkinen
Re: Perl's Glory Days Are Behind It, But It Isn't Going Anywhere
On Fri, Feb 01, 2013 at 04:25:32PM +, Nicholas Clark wrote: On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 09:51:54PM +0100, Richard Foley wrote: It's sad, but it's true: Developers/Engineers like to think their creation is so cool, OBVIOUSLY everyone's going to buy one. This is/was Apple's approach. Sales people don't care about their product quality or usefulness, so long as everyone buys one. This is/was Microsoft's approach. 'Nuff said. I disagree on that last paragraph. Because, Microsoft is a commercial organisation. The problem it is trying to optimise is how to make more money, which means selling more stuff (or the same stuff for more money) I'm not sure what the major difference is there with the point I was making, but never mind. Whereas Perl is an open source creation. People are doing it to solve other problems. Yes indeed. And, who is doing the marketing for Linux? After all, it's doing rather well on servers, and portable devices. It's doing extremely well, thank goodness. And the marketing is ground-swell, which proves individuals can make a difference, if there's enough of them ;-) -- Ciao Richard Foley http://www.rfi.net/books.html
Re: Who is available for contract work?
Hi Elaine, I'm not sure looking for a job carries quite the same old stigma as lepers of yore, so much as looking for a job WHEN OUT OF WORK. It's that old catch-22 again. The next most leper-like stage is probably the leaving soon state, regardles of whether going to a new job or not. There's a nice Dilbert cartoon about that somewhere, where people stop talking, to the soon-to-leave-group-member. I think they EVEN stop lending him their paper stapler! It'd be funny if it wasn't so true. People can be such sheep! -- Richard Foley Ciao - shorter than aufwiedersehen http://www.rfi.net/ On Saturday 21 August 2010 00:47:28 Elaine Ashton wrote: On Aug 20, 2010, at 4:06 PM, brian d foy wrote: Gabor's basically right though: it's nice to have a list of people looking for contracts. I tend to find, however, that the people you'd most like to hire aren't ever looking because they have quite the queue already. :) SAGE (the sysadmin guild) has a section of their members site for both job postings and for those looking for jobs which is nice not only to see what's out there in terms of jobs, e.g. SAG is currently looking for a sysadmin to the stars in LA :), and other folks' CVs even if you're not currently looking for work. Those for whom work seeks them are fewer in this economy, especially since I've noticed a trend in the SA market of jobs demanding a much wider range of skills and for a bit less money. I'm sure it's not much different in other areas of IT including programmers. Looking for a job may still carry some stigma similar to lepers of yore but, judging by the news lately, they're in good and growing company and it wouldn't be a bad idea to give those with specific skills a place to market those skills (and available jobs). e.
Re: White Camel Nomination :: Gabor Szabo (szabgab)
On Tuesday 03 June 2008 22:48:47 Shlomi Fish wrote: Hi! I'd like to nominate Gábor Szabó (the Hugarian-Israeli Perl programmer, not the Jazz musician) for his contributions to the Israeli and Global Perl Communities. You forgot to mention his perl debugger work too. http://debugger.perl.org/ I second, or third, or whatever, his nomination - and with enthusiasm :-) -- Richard Foley Ciao - shorter than aufwiedersehen http://www.rfi.net/
Re: Decentralize, diversify and colonize
On Tuesday 06 May 2008 08:05:44 Andy Lester wrote: http://perlbuzz.com/2008/05/perl-decentralize-diversify-colonize.html Interesting article, Andy, and yes: All advertising is good advertising! -- Richard Foley Ciao - shorter than aufwiedersehen http://www.rfi.net/
Re: Updating http://history.perl.org/PerlTimeline.html
On Sunday 27 April 2008 21:43:35 Shlomi Fish wrote: the conversion to XHTML 1.1 (valid now) etc. the patch will be very huge, so I'll just send you the new file. You can find it here: http://www.shlomifish.org/perl-timeline-temp/PerlTimeline.html Excellent work. All that was said, I would still to contribute to the new Perl history effort on the TPF wiki. While I highly commend you for the effort you've put into the existing timeline, it's highly possible a collaboration between Andy Lester, Chris Dolan and I (and other people of the Perl community) can yeild something substantial and under a more usable licensing terms. We are going to respect the copyrights ownership of the existing timeline and not re-use material from there directly, without your permission. It's a real shame the perl6 people seem to be incapable of using the work from the perl5 people - or have I misread the thread? I mean, Elaine sounds a bit pissed off, but I'm not really surprised when she gets her project whipped from under her feet. Never mind that it's not been updated for a while - surely we should respect her 'ownership' of that corner and work to get co-editing facilities of it in some way, much like when Michael gave out commit bits for the Test::More code to a choice group of interested individuals some time ago. This kind of thing happens all the time, it's called co-operation. I don't see why we have to trash the old stuff, just because certain people have positions of power and can (ab-)use it to side-step the issue. Just my four-penneth! -- Richard Foley Ciao - shorter than aufwiedersehen http://www.rfi.net/
Re: There is no cabal
On Monday 28 April 2008 18:41:00 Andy Lester wrote: There is no Perl Cabal There usually is one, somewhere, if you look closely enough... ;-) I think we're getting a bit off-topic though. This thread was about Elaine's Timeline, and her right to continue her project as she sees fit, rather than someone else to decide on behalf of the community that her project should be arbitrarily side-lined. -- Richard Foley Ciao - shorter than aufwiedersehen http://www.rfi.net/
Google SOC (etc.)
I notice that the Perl Foundation doesn't have any representation on the Google organisation page, which I found a tad surprising. Python is there, so languages are ok, Eclipse is there so programs are ok, no Perl... http://code.google.com/opensource/organizations.html Perhaps having a formatl connection with Google might help us being able to take part in the Summer of Code this year (2008), if there is one. It would be nice if politics, and religious language wars, didn't get in the way of our participation. So my question is: how can we get Perl on that page? -- Richard Foley Ciao - shorter than aufwiedersehen http://www.rfi.net/
Re: Google SOC (etc.)
On Wednesday 12 December 2007 11:56, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why TPF had no representation at Google SoC 2007: http://news.perlfoundation.org/2007/03/tpf_and_soc_2007.html I hope 2008 TPF will be there! Yep, Renee, so do I, it's not looking good though: 2005 - 'communication issues' 2006 - 'involved by proxy' 2007 - 'unprepared' 2008 - '...?' On Wednesday 12 December 2007 13:52, jimBrandt wrote: WRT SOC, I agree that we need to politely ask again. :) That would be good, if the mountain won't go to Mohammed... ;-) -- Richard Foley Ciao - shorter than aufwiedersehen http://www.rfi.net/
Re: Future Perl development
On Thursday 01 March 2007 16:03, Peter Scott wrote: [Copied to advocacy list in a probably vain attempt.] On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 15:25:24 +0100, demerphq wrote: This seems like something that should be handled by the donations to TPF (or some similar organization) by hiring a professional to do it right. Isnt this exactly why we have a donation fund? So that we can pay to get the stuff that we arent good at done properly by a professional? Wow, what he said. I was sharpening my keyboard to make the same comment when I read this. I've seen a little of how professional fundraisers work and they are *so* different from your average hacker. Not only do they possess a charisma for communicating with moneybags that eludes most of us, but their constant exposure to that work will likely lead them to ideas that haven't occurred to us. Hear hear - it's a point that's often overlooked. We're professional programmers for a reason and they're professional fundraisers for a reason. -- Richard Foley Ciao - shorter than aufwiedersehen http://www.rfi.net/ ps. Please resend any bounced or unanswered emails.
Re: Reviving lists.{perl,cpan}.org + advocacy
On Thursday 25 January 2007 08:40, Michael G Schwern wrote: Ken Williams wrote: How about we take the contents of that page, stick it on a wiki somewhere, and let people update it? If the maintainers re-emerge, we can just hand it back with the corrections. Isn't it about time for wiki.perl.org? Yes. And another thing... There was a pile of wailing about perl vs. php, waxing and waning etc., not so long ago. I was looking for some LAMP info on a debian site recently, and the only material I came across was php related. It was almost as though perl did not exist when people are considering Linux, Apache, MySQL and P...? There is something not quite right here (IMHO). Perhaps we need to revive some enthusiasm for advocating perl, by not resting on past laurels but by writing some new ones. By contributing new material to the many public wikis, books, magazines, and online reference etc., about our language of choice, too? -- Richard Foley Ciao - shorter than aufwiedersehen http://www.rfi.net/ ps. Please resend any bounced or unanswered emails.
