Re: Updating conversion value of conversions (transactions) imported form Google Analytics

2018-12-06 Thread Boštjan 
Hi, sorry for late reply - I'm a bit occupied:) Please read below.

 

> You can adjust a conversion by uploading an 
> OrderIdOfflineConversionAdjustmentFeed 
> object 
> 
>  when 
> you have an order ID 
>  available instead 
> of a click ID and conversion time. However, please note that the conversion 
> has to already be reported in order to adjust it. 
>
> Yes, I understand that, but my question is about very specific scenario: 
will this 100% work if the conversion in gAds I'm trying to update the 
value of is set up as imported from Analytics and in this case I use 
Transaction ID from Analytics as a value for gAds API parameter orderID?

 

> For your second concern, you can use the AdWords API to upload offline 
> conversions  into 
> Google Ads, giving you more flexibility in associating clicks with 
> conversions. You may use the OfflineConversionFeedService to upload 
> 
>  the 
> click conversions offline. Please take a look at the validation rules and 
> Tips 
> 
>  which 
> help you upload them successfully. You may then use 
> the OfflineConversionAdjustmentFeed object to make adjustments. In order to 
> map that specific click back to the Campaign or AdGroup, you may use the 
> Click 
> Performance Report  
> 
>  which 
> will return these details. You can also add Value track parameters 
>  to 
> the tracking template URL which will populate these values in the click 
> URL. 
>
> I understand. Question: will I be able to see stats regarding those 
uploaded conversions like Number of conversions, All conversions value, 
Specific conversion value etc. (all those additional columns in default 
reports  that I can set/add, i.e. in Keywords report)? Something like this 
(check last columns):

[image: 2018-12-07 08_10_46-Red Orbit Boštjan playground - Google Ads.png]

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Re: Updating conversion value of conversions (transactions) imported form Google Analytics

2018-11-30 Thread 'Bharani Cherukuri (AdWords API Team)' via AdWords API and Google Ads API Forum 
Hello, 

You can adjust a conversion by uploading an 
OrderIdOfflineConversionAdjustmentFeed 
object 

 when 
you have an order ID  
available 
instead of a click ID and conversion time. However, please note that the 
conversion has to already be reported in order to adjust it. 

For your second concern, you can use the AdWords API to upload offline 
conversions  into 
Google Ads, giving you more flexibility in associating clicks with 
conversions. You may use the OfflineConversionFeedService to upload 

 the 
click conversions offline. Please take a look at the validation rules and 
Tips 

 which 
help you upload them successfully. You may then use 
the OfflineConversionAdjustmentFeed object to make adjustments. In order to 
map that specific click back to the Campaign or AdGroup, you may use the Click 
Performance Report  

 which 
will return these details. You can also add Value track parameters 
 to 
the tracking template URL which will populate these values in the click 
URL. 

Let me know if you have any questions. 

Regards,
Bharani, AdWords API Team

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Re: Updating conversion value of conversions (transactions) imported form Google Analytics

2018-11-30 Thread Boštjan 
I have a couple of additional question if the scenario that I want in my 
previous post doesn't work.


I'm assuming that if I send conversion (online transaction) from my website 
into gAds directly with API (not with gTag conversion snippet and not 
through analytics import), then I'd be able to also update conversion value 
with OrderIdOfflineConversionAdjustmentFeed object, right? It sounds 
logical. In that case:
1. I'm wondering which method I should use with API?
2. I'm wondering if/how will gAds know which campaign/ad/keyword it should 
attribute the conversion to? Is this done automatically or do I need to 
send any additional params?


Thanks



On Thursday, November 29, 2018 at 8:26:14 PM UTC+1, Boštjan wrote:
>
> Hi, thanks for the answer. I've seen these help articles, but they don't 
> answer my questions. Articles explain how to update conversion value with 
> API if* conversion data is sent into gAds directly from the website 
> through conversion tag, present in the HTML code*. I understand that 
> logic. And since I can achieve same result with uploading conversion values 
> with gSheets I'm sure it works fine.
>
> What I'm trying to find out (hopefully I'll get quicker answer here 
> instead of setting up my own API tests) is if I can update conversion value 
> with API *if conversion data is sent into gAds from Google Anayltics*. In 
> this case gSheet upload doesn't work. So the only other option is using 
> API, which I'm not sure it works ...
>
> I'll just post few images to make a simple case.
>
>
>
> *Step 1: I have a convesrion (transaction) in GA: see that my transaction 
> ID is T003*
>
> [image: 2018-11-29 20_07_50-Analytics.png]
>
>
>
> *Step 2: Conversion setup in gAds: *just ignore no recent conversion 
> status since I've tested this a while ago, but you can see that the 
> conversion is present in gAds and the value is 12.34 €:
>
> [image: 2018-11-29 20_10_57-Red Orbit Boštjan playground - Google Ads.png]
>
>
>
>
>
> *My question:* since this is GA transaction (not transaction directly 
> from gAds conversion tag on the website) - if I use API method an 
> OrderIdOfflineConversionAdjustmentFeed object with correct parameters' 
> values, can I change the conversion value (to let's say 333.33), so my 
> report in gAds would actually look like (see the difference in last column):
>
> [image: 2018-11-29 20_19_52-Red Orbit Boštjan playground - Google Ads.png]
>
>
>
> I just need to know if this is possible?
>
> If it is, I should use correct parameter's values, the most important are 
> orderId: 'T003' and conversionName: 'Transactions (All Web Site Data)'.
>
>
>
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Re: Updating conversion value of conversions (transactions) imported form Google Analytics

2018-11-29 Thread Boštjan 
Hi, thanks for the answer. I've seen these help articles, but they don't 
answer my questions. Articles explain how to update conversion value with 
API if* conversion data is sent into gAds directly from the website through 
conversion tag, present in the HTML code*. I understand that logic. And 
since I can achieve same result with uploading conversion values with 
gSheets I'm sure it works fine.

What I'm trying to find out (hopefully I'll get quicker answer here instead 
of setting up my own API tests) is if I can update conversion value with 
API *if conversion data is sent into gAds from Google Anayltics*. In this 
case gSheet upload doesn't work. So the only other option is using API, 
which I'm not sure it works ...

I'll just post few images to make a simple case.



*Step 1: I have a convesrion (transaction) in GA: see that my transaction 
ID is T003*

[image: 2018-11-29 20_07_50-Analytics.png]



*Step 2: Conversion setup in gAds: *just ignore no recent conversion status 
since I've tested this a while ago, but you can see that the conversion is 
present in gAds and the value is 12.34 €:

[image: 2018-11-29 20_10_57-Red Orbit Boštjan playground - Google Ads.png]





*My question:* since this is GA transaction (not transaction directly from 
gAds conversion tag on the website) - if I use API method an 
OrderIdOfflineConversionAdjustmentFeed object with correct parameters' 
values, can I change the conversion value (to let's say 333.33), so my 
report in gAds would actually look like (see the difference in last column):

[image: 2018-11-29 20_19_52-Red Orbit Boštjan playground - Google Ads.png]



I just need to know if this is possible?

If it is, I should use correct parameter's values, the most important are 
orderId: 'T003' and conversionName: 'Transactions (All Web Site Data)'.







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Re: Updating conversion value of conversions (transactions) imported form Google Analytics

2018-11-27 Thread 'Bharani Cherukuri (AdWords API Team)' via AdWords API and Google Ads API Forum 
Hello Boštjan, 

There are two types of adjustments that can be made using the 
OfflineConversionAdjustmentFeedService 
,
 
one using the GCLID and the other using the Order ID. You can adjust a 
conversion by uploading an OrderIdOfflineConversionAdjustmentFeed object 

 when 
you have an order ID  
available 
instead of a click ID and conversion time. Google Ads uses the combination 
of order ID and conversion action name in your spreadsheet to identify the 
conversion that you'd like to adjust. When using Order ID, please make sure 
to enter the order ID as a string. You may refer to the code samples 
available here 

 in 
different languages as a reference. 

Let me know if you are facing any issues with this. 

Regards,
Bharani, AdWords API Team

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Re: Updating conversion value of conversions (transactions) imported form Google Analytics

2018-11-27 Thread Boštjan 
Or am I just stuck with simply sending adjusted conversion value already 
into the GA (as adjusted transaction revenue) ?



On Tuesday, November 27, 2018 at 12:14:10 PM UTC+1, Boštjan wrote:
>
> Hope this is not a copy of another thread - looks like my previous post 
> wasn't sent :(
>
> I want to update conversion value of conversion which is set up as Import 
> from GA, where I selected Transactions (not goals):
>
> [image: 2018-11-27 11_06_23-Red Orbit Boštjan playground - Google Ads.png]
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> So I have a GA view which tracks transactions. I have gAds account with 
> settings above and which imports GA transactions OK. And I want to update 
> conversion values inside gAds.
>
>
> I was testing few things and at the end tried to update conversion value 
> with gSheet upload, using Order ID (
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pRCbG2MFOKzh1hOqt4k3HY8QWpSMDiRkCAaje-ecDY8/edit).
>  
> It didn't work (errors about conversion name not found in gAds although I 
> was using exactly the same name as in column Conversion action in image 
> above) so I asked our local gAds support team for help. They said that 
> uploading conversion adjustments for conversions that are imported from GA 
> doesn't work. BTW, uploading conversion adjustments for conversions that 
> were set up as Website conversions (sent with JS - gTag inside website's 
> HTML code) works OK.
>
> They suggested API method OrderIdOfflineConversionAdjustmentFeed (
> https://developers.google.com/adwords/api/docs/reference/v201809/OfflineConversionAdjustmentFeedService.OrderIdOfflineConversionAdjustmentFeed).
>  
> Since I want to suggest to our client the solution that is verified (they'd 
> have to implement Google Ads API which could take quite a lot of time and 
> money), I have few additional questions that gAds support team wasn't able 
> to answer:
>
>1. Since this method does actually the same as I was trying to do with 
>gSheet upload and since upload didn't work for GA conversions - will this 
>method work *for conversions imported form GA*?
>2. If yes, the only parameter that I see appropriate in the specs to 
>match GA transaction (order) and gAds conversion is o*rderID*, where 
>I'd use the value of Transaction ID in GA?
>3. If no, is there any other API method that can achieve what I want?
>
>
> Best,
> Boštjan
>
>
>

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Updating conversion value of conversions (transactions) imported form Google Analytics

2018-11-27 Thread Boštjan 
Hope this is not a copy of another thread - looks like my previous post 
wasn't sent :(

I want to update conversion value of conversion which is set up as Import 
from GA, where I selected Transactions (not goals):

[image: 2018-11-27 11_06_23-Red Orbit Boštjan playground - Google Ads.png] 



















So I have a GA view which tracks transactions. I have gAds account with 
settings above and which imports GA transactions OK. And I want to update 
conversion values inside gAds.


I was testing few things and at the end tried to update conversion value 
with gSheet upload, using Order ID 
(https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pRCbG2MFOKzh1hOqt4k3HY8QWpSMDiRkCAaje-ecDY8/edit).
 
It didn't work (errors about conversion name not found in gAds although I 
was using exactly the same name as in column Conversion action in image 
above) so I asked our local gAds support team for help. They said that 
uploading conversion adjustments for conversions that are imported from GA 
doesn't work. BTW, uploading conversion adjustments for conversions that 
were set up as Website conversions (sent with JS - gTag inside website's 
HTML code) works OK.

They suggested API method OrderIdOfflineConversionAdjustmentFeed 
(https://developers.google.com/adwords/api/docs/reference/v201809/OfflineConversionAdjustmentFeedService.OrderIdOfflineConversionAdjustmentFeed).
 
Since I want to suggest to our client the solution that is verified (they'd 
have to implement Google Ads API which could take quite a lot of time and 
money), I have few additional questions that gAds support team wasn't able 
to answer:

   1. Since this method does actually the same as I was trying to do with 
   gSheet upload and since upload didn't work for GA conversions - will this 
   method work *for conversions imported form GA*?
   2. If yes, the only parameter that I see appropriate in the specs to 
   match GA transaction (order) and gAds conversion is o*rderID*, where I'd 
   use the value of Transaction ID in GA?
   3. If no, is there any other API method that can achieve what I want?


Best,
Boštjan


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