[AFMUG] 10G Speedtest.Net

[Mike Hammett]

I know some of you have done 10G speedtest.net tests. Unfortunately, my 10G 
speedtest server is restricted by a 1G router in the middle. 

Got any test result links? 




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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




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Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik stuff

[Mitch Koep]

LOL thanks Chuck

went that route in 2006 and learned an expensive lesson so no thanks

Thought I would just check we have 11 more sites to change over yet

Mitch


On 8/1/2018 7:18 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

Trade some Tranzeo for them.

-Original Message- From: Mitch Koep Sent: Wednesday, August 
01, 2018 6:06 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: [AFMUG] 
Mikrotik stuff

Does anyone still use Mikrotik boards?

I am taking down a WSIP that went out of business

and they used Mikrotik boards and MeanWell 24 volt DC power supplies.

Do these have any value?

Thanks

Mitch Koep










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Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik stuff

[SmarterBroadband]

Which meanwells?

-Original Message-
From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Koep
Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2018 5:07 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: [AFMUG] Mikrotik stuff

Does anyone still use Mikrotik boards?

I am taking down a WSIP that went out of business

and they used Mikrotik boards and MeanWell 24 volt DC power supplies.

Do these have any value?

Thanks

Mitch Koep



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Re: [AFMUG] Battery testers?

[Adam Moffett]

I was tempted by that one in the past.

On 8/2/2018 1:13 PM, Christopher Tyler wrote:

I recently purchased a load tester from Powerwerx 
https://powerwerx.com/cba-iv-4-pro-computerized-battery-analyzer-commercial 
($199) works pretty well.





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Re: [AFMUG] Battery testers?

[Christopher Tyler]

I recently purchased a load tester from Powerwerx 
https://powerwerx.com/cba-iv-4-pro-computerized-battery-analyzer-commercial 
($199) works pretty well.

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- Original Message -
From: ch...@wbmfg.com
To: af@af.afmug.com
Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2018 11:31:38 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Battery testers?

That’s what I’m talkin’ ‘bout. 
Either use one of these on the battery itself or do it in the circuit with the 
live load. 
From: Brian Sullivan 
Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2018 10:27 AM 
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Battery testers? 
Our TrippLite units have a self test feature and report when the bank of backup 
cells are beginning to fail. 
To identify which cell it is we use a basic load tester. BAD cells get recycled 
and 'not-so-bad' cells get reused on non-critical devices. 

https://www.harborfreight.com/100-amp-612v-battery-load-tester-61747.html 


On 8/2/2018 11:18 AM, Darren Shea wrote: 



We have UPS systems at pretty much every site, and we know that our 12V AGM
batteries will need to be replaced at regular intervals, but we'd like to be
able to test the batteries to make sure we prioritize the ones which are in
the worst shape.

I checked on Amazon, and there are dozens of different battery testers of
this type, ranging in price from under $20 to $150, but it's hard to sift
through all these devices to find the ones that would work best for our
purpose.

Do any of you use any portable battery testers to check the health of your
batteries in the field? Which features or units did you find are
worthwhile/necessary, and which units and features are useless or worse?

Thank you,
Darren 




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Re: [AFMUG] Battery testers?

[chuck]

That’s what I’m talkin’ ‘bout.  

Either use one of these on the battery itself or do it in the circuit with the 
live load.  

From: Brian Sullivan 
Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2018 10:27 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Battery testers?

Our TrippLite units have a self test feature and report when the bank of backup 
cells are beginning to fail.
To identify which cell it is we use a basic load tester.  BAD cells get 
recycled and 'not-so-bad' cells get reused on non-critical devices.

https://www.harborfreight.com/100-amp-612v-battery-load-tester-61747.html



On 8/2/2018 11:18 AM, Darren Shea wrote:

We have UPS systems at pretty much every site, and we know that our 12V AGM
batteries will need to be replaced at regular intervals, but we'd like to be
able to test the batteries to make sure we prioritize the ones which are in
the worst shape.

I checked on Amazon, and there are dozens of different battery testers of
this type, ranging in price from under $20 to $150, but it's hard to sift
through all these devices to find the ones that would work best for our
purpose.

Do any of you use any portable battery testers to check the health of your
batteries in the field? Which features or units did you find are
worthwhile/necessary, and which units and features are useless or worse?

Thank you,
Darren








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[AFMUG] Battery testers?

[Darren Shea]

We have UPS systems at pretty much every site, and we know that our 12V AGM
batteries will need to be replaced at regular intervals, but we'd like to be
able to test the batteries to make sure we prioritize the ones which are in
the worst shape.

I checked on Amazon, and there are dozens of different battery testers of
this type, ranging in price from under $20 to $150, but it's hard to sift
through all these devices to find the ones that would work best for our
purpose.

Do any of you use any portable battery testers to check the health of your
batteries in the field? Which features or units did you find are
worthwhile/necessary, and which units and features are useless or worse?

Thank you,
Darren



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Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik stuff

[Bill Prince]

  
  
Unless they figure out a way to sustain, they are toast.
Better business model is Sinemia.
Here's a comparison of the 3 big ones right now: https://www.gamespot.com/articles/amcs-stubs-a-list-vs-moviepass-vs-sinemia-we-put-a/1100-6460189/

bp



On 8/2/2018 7:26 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com
  wrote:


  
  

  HMNY (MoviePass) is a better deal.  There is real value
there.
   
  Just hit an all time low.  
  15 cents per share.  .06 cents per share in pre split
dollars.  
  Yes, that is 60 milli cents.  
   
  Or 600 micro dollars per share.  
   
  Down from an all time high of $38.86
  

   
  
From: Steve Jones 
Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2018 9:43 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users
Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik stuff
  

 
  
  
I have some keyon stock I'll trade you for them
 

  On Wed, Aug 1, 2018, 7:55 PM Adam Moffett

wrote:
  
  
Each of those
  boards is around $150 brand new.  Same with the dark
  gray "NetMetal" on the far right.
  
  Someone must use them, but buying them used is like
  buying used goldfish.
  
  -Adam
  
  
  On
8/1/2018 8:06 PM, Mitch Koep wrote:
  
  Does anyone still use Mikrotik
boards? 

I am taking down a WSIP that went out of business 

and they used Mikrotik boards and MeanWell 24 volt
DC power supplies. 

Do these have any value? 

Thanks 

Mitch Koep 




  
  

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Re: [AFMUG] OT 3d printing and guns

[chuck]

No, we restrict SMTP transmission to only stateside IPs

From: can...@believewireless.net 
Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2018 8:58 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT 3d printing and guns

Chuck, I hope this list isn't international... expect a knock on your door from 
the FBI from what you just published.

On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 10:29 AM,  wrote:

  But you don’t need a 3D printer.

  When I was a kid:  I put a shotgun shell in a vise, held a nail with pliers 
and used the nail and a ball peen hammer to set it off.

  I put shotgun shells in pipes and did similar things.

  As young as 5 years old I crammed a 22 cal cartridge into the holes in a 
chunk of lava rock and hammered it with another rock until it went off.  

  As previously mentioned here, zip guns have been made for decades.  I 
recently crammed a 22 cal into a soda straw and threw it up in the air to come 
down on concrete.  It did not go off as promised.  

  Tape a ball bearing or marble on the bottom of a shotgun shell and do the 
same thing.  
  Lots of fun to be had without a 3D printer.  

  From: Steve Jones 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2018 9:53 PM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT 3d printing and guns

  My biggest real concern about this is idiots, particularly young idiots, like 
most of us on this list probably were. Printing up the gun on a cheap printer 
and blowing their hands off because they don't understand the plastic quality 
matters. Granted, dumb kids like us blew things up with other stuff and manages 
to keep most of our fingers and a percentage of our hearing. Maybe I'm just 
getting old and worry about the consequences of dumb kids. 

  And what happens to some kid who loads the file into one of the school 
printers, his life is effectively over for being a dumb kid.

  I find the hype humorous since you could download anarchist cookbook from 
almost day one of the public interwebs. Meth recipes and instruction, ricin 
production from castor beans, this krocodile fake heroin, napalm recipes, etc. 

  On Wed, Aug 1, 2018, 8:57 PM Seth Mattinen  wrote:

On 8/1/18 6:48 PM, Jay Weekley wrote:
> Yep. There is a reason guns essential parts are made of metal instead of 
> plastic. They will still shoot metal bullets.


Print some plastic ones. Problem solved.

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Re: [AFMUG] OT 3d printing and guns

[can...@believewireless.net]

Chuck, I hope this list isn't international... expect a knock on your door
from the FBI from what you just published.

On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 10:29 AM,  wrote:

> But you don’t need a 3D printer.
>
> When I was a kid:  I put a shotgun shell in a vise, held a nail with
> pliers and used the nail and a ball peen hammer to set it off.
>
> I put shotgun shells in pipes and did similar things.
>
> As young as 5 years old I crammed a 22 cal cartridge into the holes in a
> chunk of lava rock and hammered it with another rock until it went off.
>
> As previously mentioned here, zip guns have been made for decades.  I
> recently crammed a 22 cal into a soda straw and threw it up in the air to
> come down on concrete.  It did not go off as promised.
>
> Tape a ball bearing or marble on the bottom of a shotgun shell and do the
> same thing.
> Lots of fun to be had without a 3D printer.
>
> *From:* Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 1, 2018 9:53 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT 3d printing and guns
>
> My biggest real concern about this is idiots, particularly young idiots,
> like most of us on this list probably were. Printing up the gun on a cheap
> printer and blowing their hands off because they don't understand the
> plastic quality matters. Granted, dumb kids like us blew things up with
> other stuff and manages to keep most of our fingers and a percentage of our
> hearing. Maybe I'm just getting old and worry about the consequences of
> dumb kids.
>
> And what happens to some kid who loads the file into one of the school
> printers, his life is effectively over for being a dumb kid.
>
> I find the hype humorous since you could download anarchist cookbook from
> almost day one of the public interwebs. Meth recipes and instruction, ricin
> production from castor beans, this krocodile fake heroin, napalm recipes,
> etc.
>
> On Wed, Aug 1, 2018, 8:57 PM Seth Mattinen  wrote:
>
>> On 8/1/18 6:48 PM, Jay Weekley wrote:
>> > Yep. There is a reason guns essential parts are made of metal instead
>> of
>> > plastic. They will still shoot metal bullets.
>>
>>
>> Print some plastic ones. Problem solved.
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Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik stuff

[Josh Luthman]

Are those 155b power supplies?  I'll take em if no one else will.


Josh Luthman
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Direct: 937-552-2343
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Suite 1337
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On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 8:06 PM, Mitch Koep  wrote:

> Does anyone still use Mikrotik boards?
>
> I am taking down a WSIP that went out of business
>
> and they used Mikrotik boards and MeanWell 24 volt DC power supplies.
>
> Do these have any value?
>
> Thanks
>
> Mitch Koep
>
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Re: [AFMUG] OT 3d printing and guns

[chuck]

amen

-Original Message- 
From: Jay Weekley 
Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2018 7:54 AM 
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT 3d printing and guns 


I'm lucky that the internet wasn't around when I was a kid.

Steve Jones wrote:
My biggest real concern about this is idiots, particularly young 
idiots, like most of us on this list probably were. Printing up the 
gun on a cheap printer and blowing their hands off because they don't 
understand the plastic quality matters. Granted, dumb kids like us 
blew things up with other stuff and manages to keep most of our 
fingers and a percentage of our hearing. Maybe I'm just getting old 
and worry about the consequences of dumb kids.


And what happens to some kid who loads the file into one of the school 
printers, his life is effectively over for being a dumb kid.


I find the hype humorous since you could download anarchist cookbook 
from almost day one of the public interwebs. Meth recipes and 
instruction, ricin production from castor beans, this krocodile fake 
heroin, napalm recipes, etc.


On Wed, Aug 1, 2018, 8:57 PM Seth Mattinen > wrote:


On 8/1/18 6:48 PM, Jay Weekley wrote:
> Yep. There is a reason guns essential parts are made of metal
instead of
> plastic. They will still shoot metal bullets.


Print some plastic ones. Problem solved.

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Re: [AFMUG] OT 3d printing and guns

[chuck]

But you don’t need a 3D printer.

When I was a kid:  I put a shotgun shell in a vise, held a nail with pliers and 
used the nail and a ball peen hammer to set it off.

I put shotgun shells in pipes and did similar things.

As young as 5 years old I crammed a 22 cal cartridge into the holes in a chunk 
of lava rock and hammered it with another rock until it went off.  

As previously mentioned here, zip guns have been made for decades.  I recently 
crammed a 22 cal into a soda straw and threw it up in the air to come down on 
concrete.  It did not go off as promised.  

Tape a ball bearing or marble on the bottom of a shotgun shell and do the same 
thing.  
Lots of fun to be had without a 3D printer.  

From: Steve Jones 
Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2018 9:53 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT 3d printing and guns

My biggest real concern about this is idiots, particularly young idiots, like 
most of us on this list probably were. Printing up the gun on a cheap printer 
and blowing their hands off because they don't understand the plastic quality 
matters. Granted, dumb kids like us blew things up with other stuff and manages 
to keep most of our fingers and a percentage of our hearing. Maybe I'm just 
getting old and worry about the consequences of dumb kids. 

And what happens to some kid who loads the file into one of the school 
printers, his life is effectively over for being a dumb kid.

I find the hype humorous since you could download anarchist cookbook from 
almost day one of the public interwebs. Meth recipes and instruction, ricin 
production from castor beans, this krocodile fake heroin, napalm recipes, etc. 

On Wed, Aug 1, 2018, 8:57 PM Seth Mattinen  wrote:

  On 8/1/18 6:48 PM, Jay Weekley wrote:
  > Yep. There is a reason guns essential parts are made of metal instead of 
  > plastic. They will still shoot metal bullets.


  Print some plastic ones. Problem solved.

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Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik stuff

[chuck]

HMNY (MoviePass) is a better deal.  There is real value there.

Just hit an all time low.  
15 cents per share.  .06 cents per share in pre split dollars.  
Yes, that is 60 milli cents.  

Or 600 micro dollars per share.  

Down from an all time high of $38.86

From: Steve Jones 
Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2018 9:43 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik stuff

I have some keyon stock I'll trade you for them

On Wed, Aug 1, 2018, 7:55 PM Adam Moffett  wrote:

  Each of those boards is around $150 brand new.  Same with the dark gray 
"NetMetal" on the far right.

  Someone must use them, but buying them used is like buying used goldfish.

  -Adam



  On 8/1/2018 8:06 PM, Mitch Koep wrote:

Does anyone still use Mikrotik boards? 

I am taking down a WSIP that went out of business 

and they used Mikrotik boards and MeanWell 24 volt DC power supplies. 

Do these have any value? 

Thanks 

Mitch Koep 


 



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Re: [AFMUG] OT 3d printing and guns

[Jay Weekley]

I'd be dead or missing things like eyes, fingers etc.

can...@believewireless.net wrote:

+1 Jay. I'd definitely be in prison for life.

On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 9:54 AM, Jay Weekley > wrote:


I'm lucky that the internet wasn't around when I was a kid.

Steve Jones wrote:

My biggest real concern about this is idiots, particularly
young idiots, like most of us on this list probably were.
Printing up the gun on a cheap printer and blowing their hands
off because they don't understand the plastic quality matters.
Granted, dumb kids like us blew things up with other stuff and
manages to keep most of our fingers and a percentage of our
hearing. Maybe I'm just getting old and worry about the
consequences of dumb kids.

And what happens to some kid who loads the file into one of
the school printers, his life is effectively over for being a
dumb kid.

I find the hype humorous since you could download anarchist
cookbook from almost day one of the public interwebs. Meth
recipes and instruction, ricin production from castor beans,
this krocodile fake heroin, napalm recipes, etc.

On Wed, Aug 1, 2018, 8:57 PM Seth Mattinen mailto:se...@rollernet.us> >> wrote:

On 8/1/18 6:48 PM, Jay Weekley wrote:
> Yep. There is a reason guns essential parts are made of
metal
instead of
> plastic. They will still shoot metal bullets.


Print some plastic ones. Problem solved.

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Re: [AFMUG] OT 3d printing and guns

[can...@believewireless.net]

+1 Jay. I'd definitely be in prison for life.

On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 9:54 AM, Jay Weekley 
wrote:

> I'm lucky that the internet wasn't around when I was a kid.
>
> Steve Jones wrote:
>
>> My biggest real concern about this is idiots, particularly young idiots,
>> like most of us on this list probably were. Printing up the gun on a cheap
>> printer and blowing their hands off because they don't understand the
>> plastic quality matters. Granted, dumb kids like us blew things up with
>> other stuff and manages to keep most of our fingers and a percentage of our
>> hearing. Maybe I'm just getting old and worry about the consequences of
>> dumb kids.
>>
>> And what happens to some kid who loads the file into one of the school
>> printers, his life is effectively over for being a dumb kid.
>>
>> I find the hype humorous since you could download anarchist cookbook from
>> almost day one of the public interwebs. Meth recipes and instruction, ricin
>> production from castor beans, this krocodile fake heroin, napalm recipes,
>> etc.
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 1, 2018, 8:57 PM Seth Mattinen > se...@rollernet.us>> wrote:
>>
>> On 8/1/18 6:48 PM, Jay Weekley wrote:
>> > Yep. There is a reason guns essential parts are made of metal
>> instead of
>> > plastic. They will still shoot metal bullets.
>>
>>
>> Print some plastic ones. Problem solved.
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Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik stuff

[Dennis Burgess]

Shoot me a list of what you got.  May purchase it all.  


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-Original Message-
From: AF  On Behalf Of Mitch Koep
Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2018 7:07 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: [AFMUG] Mikrotik stuff

Does anyone still use Mikrotik boards?

I am taking down a WSIP that went out of business

and they used Mikrotik boards and MeanWell 24 volt DC power supplies.

Do these have any value?

Thanks

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Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik stuff

[Dave]

How bout some bitcoin?


On 08/01/2018 07:06 PM, Mitch Koep wrote:

Does anyone still use Mikrotik boards?

I am taking down a WSIP that went out of business

and they used Mikrotik boards and MeanWell 24 volt DC power supplies.

Do these have any value?

Thanks

Mitch Koep





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Re: [AFMUG] OT 3d printing and guns

[Dave]

Im just sayin... Who the hell would want a plastic one when you would 
only get a few shots of before the barrel melted.
Also, I prefer the real deal.. It just feels good to squeeze down on a 
M4 and put the crosshairs of my Akog on a target at more than 400m and 
squeeze off a round.


Mind u this is in an environment that is deemed hostile and your 
survival and others around you depend on your marksmanship :)


I do agree with the accessibility to those with no understanding and 
respect of a weapon designed to kill.




On 08/01/2018 10:53 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
My biggest real concern about this is idiots, particularly young 
idiots, like most of us on this list probably were. Printing up the 
gun on a cheap printer and blowing their hands off because they don't 
understand the plastic quality matters. Granted, dumb kids like us 
blew things up with other stuff and manages to keep most of our 
fingers and a percentage of our hearing. Maybe I'm just getting old 
and worry about the consequences of dumb kids.


And what happens to some kid who loads the file into one of the school 
printers, his life is effectively over for being a dumb kid.


I find the hype humorous since you could download anarchist cookbook 
from almost day one of the public interwebs. Meth recipes and 
instruction, ricin production from castor beans, this krocodile fake 
heroin, napalm recipes, etc.


On Wed, Aug 1, 2018, 8:57 PM Seth Mattinen > wrote:


On 8/1/18 6:48 PM, Jay Weekley wrote:
> Yep. There is a reason guns essential parts are made of metal
instead of
> plastic. They will still shoot metal bullets.


Print some plastic ones. Problem solved.

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