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Re: [AFMUG] E400 APs on Drop ceilings

2019-04-29 Thread Jason Wilson

Lewis is correct. The blue bracket will clip on the T frames.

On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 4:45 PM Lewis Bergman 
wrote:

> I am pretty sure the standard blue bracket had clips for the T channel. I
> could be wrong I think they are kind of flimsy though.
>
> On Mon, Apr 29, 2019, 5:55 PM Nate Burke  wrote:
>
>> I'm replacing some old Ruckus AP's with E400's, the Ruckus APs had a
>> bracket that clipped onto the T-channel of the Drop ceiling.  Does
>> something similar exist for the E400's?   A quick Google search turned
>> up people asking for it on the Cambium forums, but no products.
>>
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Re: [AFMUG] UBNT u-Installer with Cambium gear

2019-04-29 Thread Mathew Howard

Yeah, it can be done... but you have to change a setting through SSH, to
make it act like a normal AP.
I don't remember exactly what needs to be changed off hand, but I have a
couple of new ones that I need to configure anyway, so I'll try to find my
notes tomorrow.

On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 5:37 PM Sam Lambie  wrote:

> Hey all,
>
> Has anyone used the Uinstaller on Cambium SM's etc? I see that it has a
> DHCP server built into it. Any way to disable that so I can access the
> 169.254.1.1 default IP's of Cambium radios?
> I tried setting my phones IP to 169.254.1.2, but I can't reach the radio...
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Re: [AFMUG] E400 APs on Drop ceilings

2019-04-29 Thread Lewis Bergman

I am pretty sure the standard blue bracket had clips for the T channel. I
could be wrong I think they are kind of flimsy though.

On Mon, Apr 29, 2019, 5:55 PM Nate Burke  wrote:

> I'm replacing some old Ruckus AP's with E400's, the Ruckus APs had a
> bracket that clipped onto the T-channel of the Drop ceiling.  Does
> something similar exist for the E400's?   A quick Google search turned
> up people asking for it on the Cambium forums, but no products.
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[AFMUG] E400 APs on Drop ceilings

2019-04-29 Thread Nate Burke

I'm replacing some old Ruckus AP's with E400's, the Ruckus APs had a 
bracket that clipped onto the T-channel of the Drop ceiling.  Does 
something similar exist for the E400's?   A quick Google search turned 
up people asking for it on the Cambium forums, but no products.



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[AFMUG] UBNT u-Installer with Cambium gear

2019-04-29 Thread Sam Lambie

Hey all,

Has anyone used the Uinstaller on Cambium SM's etc? I see that it has a
DHCP server built into it. Any way to disable that so I can access the
169.254.1.1 default IP's of Cambium radios?
I tried setting my phones IP to 169.254.1.2, but I can't reach the radio...

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Re: [AFMUG] 900mhz stingers still available?

2019-04-29 Thread Mathew Howard

Lanbowan was one. they had a nice, I think 12dbi that was roughly 12". I
don't remember who the other company was off hand.
I think the Itelites would be kind of a pain to use with a 450SM, and if I
remember correctly, they're only 10dbi. But at any rate, I don't really
have a need for them anymore.

On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 5:21 PM Colin Stanners  wrote:

> Kenbotong and Lanbowan for the chinese companies? I believe that most WISP
> market 900Mhz / 2.4Ghz/ 5Ghz chinese antennas come from them.
>
> If you are still looking for a smaller, cheaper 900mhz dual-pol panel
> antenna, itelite has some panels that would fit the bill, but they seem
> like they were originally made for MT boards, so it may be annoying to
> connect a PMP450 900SM to them, or to mount them for dual-slant
> polarization.
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 29, 2019, 3:10 PM Mathew Howard 
>> Too expensive, and a bit larger than I'd typically want for CPE use. I
>> did find a couple of Chinese companies at one point that had some fairly
>> decent reasonably priced panels, but I only ever got a few for testing
>> purposes... we've pretty much given up on 900mhz at this point anyway.
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 4:26 PM Colin Stanners 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> These don't work for you? Too expensive?
>>> https://www.kpperformance.com/900-mhz-13-5-dbi-dual-pol-flat-panel-antenna
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 29, 2019, 2:08 PM Mathew Howard >>
 Yeah, I really doubt there's enough of a market for 900mhz stuff these
 days to be worth it.  It is kind of a shame that there's no good option for
 900mhz dual polarity panels though.

 On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 3:56 PM  wrote:

> Arrgh
> I doubt I would ever pay off the tooling costs.
>
> *From:* Colin Stanners
> *Sent:* Monday, April 29, 2019 2:50 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 900mhz stingers still available?
>
> Chuck, would it be worth it to you to make dual-slant 900mhz stingers
> for the 900 450 platform? May be better to use rpsma connectors on them
> instead of N to reduce torsion, and you may need to supply cables with 
> them.
>
> On Mon, Apr 29, 2019, 12:48 PM 
>> We don’t make them anymore.  Sorry.
>>
>> *From:* Kurt Fankhauser
>> *Sent:* Monday, April 29, 2019 1:42 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] 900mhz stingers still available?
>>
>> does anyone know where i can get a 900mhz HPOL stinger or super
>> stinger? i can't find any vendor that stocks them anymore
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Re: [AFMUG] 900mhz stingers still available?

2019-04-29 Thread chuck

I believe that Lanbowan makes a lot of stuff for KPP.

From: Colin Stanners 
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2019 4:19 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 900mhz stingers still available?

Kenbotong and Lanbowan for the chinese companies? I believe that most WISP 
market 900Mhz / 2.4Ghz/ 5Ghz chinese antennas come from them. 

If you are still looking for a smaller, cheaper 900mhz dual-pol panel antenna, 
itelite has some panels that would fit the bill, but they seem like they were 
originally made for MT boards, so it may be annoying to connect a PMP450 900SM 
to them, or to mount them for dual-slant polarization.

On Mon, Apr 29, 2019, 3:10 PM Mathew Howard  wrote:

These don't work for you? Too expensive? 
https://www.kpperformance.com/900-mhz-13-5-dbi-dual-pol-flat-panel-antenna 

On Mon, Apr 29, 2019, 2:08 PM Mathew Howard  wrote:

Arrgh
I doubt I would ever pay off the tooling costs.  

From: Colin Stanners 
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2019 2:50 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 900mhz stingers still available?

Chuck, would it be worth it to you to make dual-slant 900mhz stingers 
for the 900 450 platform? May be better to use rpsma connectors on them instead 
of N to reduce torsion, and you may need to supply cables with them.

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Re: [AFMUG] 900mhz stingers still available?

2019-04-29 Thread Colin Stanners

Kenbotong and Lanbowan for the chinese companies? I believe that most WISP
market 900Mhz / 2.4Ghz/ 5Ghz chinese antennas come from them.

If you are still looking for a smaller, cheaper 900mhz dual-pol panel
antenna, itelite has some panels that would fit the bill, but they seem
like they were originally made for MT boards, so it may be annoying to
connect a PMP450 900SM to them, or to mount them for dual-slant
polarization.


On Mon, Apr 29, 2019, 3:10 PM Mathew Howard  Too expensive, and a bit larger than I'd typically want for CPE use. I did
> find a couple of Chinese companies at one point that had some fairly decent
> reasonably priced panels, but I only ever got a few for testing purposes...
> we've pretty much given up on 900mhz at this point anyway.
>
> On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 4:26 PM Colin Stanners 
> wrote:
>
>> These don't work for you? Too expensive?
>> https://www.kpperformance.com/900-mhz-13-5-dbi-dual-pol-flat-panel-antenna
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 29, 2019, 2:08 PM Mathew Howard >
>>> Yeah, I really doubt there's enough of a market for 900mhz stuff these
>>> days to be worth it.  It is kind of a shame that there's no good option for
>>> 900mhz dual polarity panels though.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 3:56 PM  wrote:
>>>
 Arrgh
 I doubt I would ever pay off the tooling costs.

 *From:* Colin Stanners
 *Sent:* Monday, April 29, 2019 2:50 PM
 *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 900mhz stingers still available?

 Chuck, would it be worth it to you to make dual-slant 900mhz stingers
 for the 900 450 platform? May be better to use rpsma connectors on them
 instead of N to reduce torsion, and you may need to supply cables with 
 them.

 On Mon, Apr 29, 2019, 12:48 PM >>>
> We don’t make them anymore.  Sorry.
>
> *From:* Kurt Fankhauser
> *Sent:* Monday, April 29, 2019 1:42 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] 900mhz stingers still available?
>
> does anyone know where i can get a 900mhz HPOL stinger or super
> stinger? i can't find any vendor that stocks them anymore
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Re: [AFMUG] 900mhz stingers still available?

2019-04-29 Thread Mathew Howard

Too expensive, and a bit larger than I'd typically want for CPE use. I did
find a couple of Chinese companies at one point that had some fairly decent
reasonably priced panels, but I only ever got a few for testing purposes...
we've pretty much given up on 900mhz at this point anyway.

On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 4:26 PM Colin Stanners  wrote:

> These don't work for you? Too expensive?
> https://www.kpperformance.com/900-mhz-13-5-dbi-dual-pol-flat-panel-antenna
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 29, 2019, 2:08 PM Mathew Howard 
>> Yeah, I really doubt there's enough of a market for 900mhz stuff these
>> days to be worth it.  It is kind of a shame that there's no good option for
>> 900mhz dual polarity panels though.
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 3:56 PM  wrote:
>>
>>> Arrgh
>>> I doubt I would ever pay off the tooling costs.
>>>
>>> *From:* Colin Stanners
>>> *Sent:* Monday, April 29, 2019 2:50 PM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 900mhz stingers still available?
>>>
>>> Chuck, would it be worth it to you to make dual-slant 900mhz stingers
>>> for the 900 450 platform? May be better to use rpsma connectors on them
>>> instead of N to reduce torsion, and you may need to supply cables with them.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 29, 2019, 12:48 PM >>
 We don’t make them anymore.  Sorry.

 *From:* Kurt Fankhauser
 *Sent:* Monday, April 29, 2019 1:42 PM
 *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
 *Subject:* [AFMUG] 900mhz stingers still available?

 does anyone know where i can get a 900mhz HPOL stinger or super
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Re: [AFMUG] micropop/small cell customer agreements

2019-04-29 Thread dave

Why not have a small lease on property with telephone pole and screw 
free. It still free but there is an exchange of paper.
Also, as new products change the landscape and customer with lease wants 
to upgrade then sure... tack on the extra mmrc and now

he pays you to be there :)

My customers would have all got satellite within a 4 day period LOL :)


On 4/29/19 4:06 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote:


Never had a repeater site burn down.   Many moves, new people always 
want free internet.


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How does that work if they move out or the house burns down :)


On 4/26/19 4:59 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote:

Sent.

-Original Message-

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Graham McIntire

Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2019 10:18 AM

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Subject: [AFMUG] micropop/small cell customer agreements

Does anyone have an example of an agreement/contract you have with customers

that host micropops on their houses? Something along the lines of like

"please don't unplug our stuff."

Graham McIntire

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Re: [AFMUG] 900mhz stingers still available?

2019-04-29 Thread Kurt Fankhauser

i only need 2

On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 5:26 PM Colin Stanners  wrote:

> These don't work for you? Too expensive?
> https://www.kpperformance.com/900-mhz-13-5-dbi-dual-pol-flat-panel-antenna
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 29, 2019, 2:08 PM Mathew Howard 
>> Yeah, I really doubt there's enough of a market for 900mhz stuff these
>> days to be worth it.  It is kind of a shame that there's no good option for
>> 900mhz dual polarity panels though.
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 3:56 PM  wrote:
>>
>>> Arrgh
>>> I doubt I would ever pay off the tooling costs.
>>>
>>> *From:* Colin Stanners
>>> *Sent:* Monday, April 29, 2019 2:50 PM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 900mhz stingers still available?
>>>
>>> Chuck, would it be worth it to you to make dual-slant 900mhz stingers
>>> for the 900 450 platform? May be better to use rpsma connectors on them
>>> instead of N to reduce torsion, and you may need to supply cables with them.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 29, 2019, 12:48 PM >>
 We don’t make them anymore.  Sorry.

 *From:* Kurt Fankhauser
 *Sent:* Monday, April 29, 2019 1:42 PM
 *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
 *Subject:* [AFMUG] 900mhz stingers still available?

 does anyone know where i can get a 900mhz HPOL stinger or super
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Re: [AFMUG] 900mhz stingers still available?

2019-04-29 Thread Colin Stanners

These don't work for you? Too expensive?
https://www.kpperformance.com/900-mhz-13-5-dbi-dual-pol-flat-panel-antenna



On Mon, Apr 29, 2019, 2:08 PM Mathew Howard  Yeah, I really doubt there's enough of a market for 900mhz stuff these
> days to be worth it.  It is kind of a shame that there's no good option for
> 900mhz dual polarity panels though.
>
> On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 3:56 PM  wrote:
>
>> Arrgh
>> I doubt I would ever pay off the tooling costs.
>>
>> *From:* Colin Stanners
>> *Sent:* Monday, April 29, 2019 2:50 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 900mhz stingers still available?
>>
>> Chuck, would it be worth it to you to make dual-slant 900mhz stingers for
>> the 900 450 platform? May be better to use rpsma connectors on them instead
>> of N to reduce torsion, and you may need to supply cables with them.
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 29, 2019, 12:48 PM >
>>> We don’t make them anymore.  Sorry.
>>>
>>> *From:* Kurt Fankhauser
>>> *Sent:* Monday, April 29, 2019 1:42 PM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] 900mhz stingers still available?
>>>
>>> does anyone know where i can get a 900mhz HPOL stinger or super stinger?
>>> i can't find any vendor that stocks them anymore
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Re: [AFMUG] 500 foot shot

2019-04-29 Thread Mathew Howard

We had some issues with the original 1Gbps units - which they did replace
for free, and as I understand it, the 1 gig radios have since been
redesigned, but we've had two of the 2.5Gbps links up for close to two
years with no real problems. The Mikrotik 60ghz radios seem to work pretty
well too.

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> We need to put up a 100Meg link for our county.   Possible they may
> eventually need 500Meg.   Is the IgniteNet 60Ghz solid and ready for prime
> time?   I would use AF24 but this link is about 4 degrees off an existing
> AF24 link!!!  Could use Siklu but don’t see using it anywhere else so would
> need to hold a spare.   However if IgniteNet worked well I could see other
> uses.   Other thoughts?
>
>
>
> Thanks
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[AFMUG] 500 foot shot

2019-04-29 Thread SmarterBroadband

We need to put up a 100Meg link for our county.   Possible they may
eventually need 500Meg.   Is the IgniteNet 60Ghz solid and ready for prime
time?   I would use AF24 but this link is about 4 degrees off an existing
AF24 link!!!  Could use Siklu but don't see using it anywhere else so would
need to hold a spare.   However if IgniteNet worked well I could see other
uses.   Other thoughts?

 

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Re: [AFMUG] 900mhz stingers still available?

2019-04-29 Thread Mike Hammett

How many units would you need to sell to be worth it? 1k? 10k? Could always 
just throw that number out there and see how much interest there is in buying 
that many. 




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Arrgh 
I doubt I would ever pay off the tooling costs. 




From: Colin Stanners 
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2019 2:50 PM 
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 900mhz stingers still available? 


Chuck, would it be worth it to you to make dual-slant 900mhz stingers for the 
900 450 platform? May be better to use rpsma connectors on them instead of N to 
reduce torsion, and you may need to supply cables with them. 


On Mon, Apr 29, 2019, 12:48 PM < ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: 






We don’t make them anymore. Sorry. 




From: Kurt Fankhauser 
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2019 1:42 PM 
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: [AFMUG] 900mhz stingers still available? 


does anyone know where i can get a 900mhz HPOL stinger or super stinger? i 
can't find any vendor that stocks them anymore 

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Re: [AFMUG] 900mhz stingers still available?

2019-04-29 Thread Mathew Howard

Yeah, I really doubt there's enough of a market for 900mhz stuff these days
to be worth it.  It is kind of a shame that there's no good option for
900mhz dual polarity panels though.

On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 3:56 PM  wrote:

> Arrgh
> I doubt I would ever pay off the tooling costs.
>
> *From:* Colin Stanners
> *Sent:* Monday, April 29, 2019 2:50 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 900mhz stingers still available?
>
> Chuck, would it be worth it to you to make dual-slant 900mhz stingers for
> the 900 450 platform? May be better to use rpsma connectors on them instead
> of N to reduce torsion, and you may need to supply cables with them.
>
> On Mon, Apr 29, 2019, 12:48 PM 
>> We don’t make them anymore.  Sorry.
>>
>> *From:* Kurt Fankhauser
>> *Sent:* Monday, April 29, 2019 1:42 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] 900mhz stingers still available?
>>
>> does anyone know where i can get a 900mhz HPOL stinger or super stinger?
>> i can't find any vendor that stocks them anymore
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Re: [AFMUG] micropop/small cell customer agreements

2019-04-29 Thread SmarterBroadband

Never had a repeater site burn down.   Many moves, new people always want free 
internet.

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of dave
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2019 1:23 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] micropop/small cell customer agreements

 

How does that work if they move out or the house burns down :)




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Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2019 10:18 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com  
Subject: [AFMUG] micropop/small cell customer agreements
 
Does anyone have an example of an agreement/contract you have with customers
that host micropops on their houses? Something along the lines of like
"please don't unplug our stuff."
 
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Re: [AFMUG] 900mhz stingers still available?

2019-04-29 Thread SmarterBroadband

I have used Stingers and 13 and 17 yagi.

Email me if interested.

Adam

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2019 12:43 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: [AFMUG] 900mhz stingers still available?

 

does anyone know where i can get a 900mhz HPOL stinger or super stinger? i 
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Re: [AFMUG] 900mhz stingers still available?

2019-04-29 Thread chuck

Arrgh
I doubt I would ever pay off the tooling costs.  

From: Colin Stanners 
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2019 2:50 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 900mhz stingers still available?

Chuck, would it be worth it to you to make dual-slant 900mhz stingers for the 
900 450 platform? May be better to use rpsma connectors on them instead of N to 
reduce torsion, and you may need to supply cables with them.

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Re: [AFMUG] 900mhz stingers still available?

2019-04-29 Thread Colin Stanners

Chuck, would it be worth it to you to make dual-slant 900mhz stingers for
the 900 450 platform? May be better to use rpsma connectors on them instead
of N to reduce torsion, and you may need to supply cables with them.

On Mon, Apr 29, 2019, 12:48 PM  We don’t make them anymore.  Sorry.
>
> *From:* Kurt Fankhauser
> *Sent:* Monday, April 29, 2019 1:42 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] 900mhz stingers still available?
>
> does anyone know where i can get a 900mhz HPOL stinger or super stinger? i
> can't find any vendor that stocks them anymore
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Re: [AFMUG] micropop/small cell customer agreements

2019-04-29 Thread Robert Andrews

I've had both happen, multiple times.   One fire took out 2 customer 
relay homes.   Rebuild or relocate.   We had 95% of all customers up 
within four days.


On 04/29/2019 01:23 PM, dave wrote:

How does that work if they move out or the house burns down :)


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Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2019 10:18 AM
To:af@af.afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] micropop/small cell customer agreements

Does anyone have an example of an agreement/contract you have with customers
that host micropops on their houses? Something along the lines of like
"please don't unplug our stuff."

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Re: [AFMUG] 900mhz stingers still available?

2019-04-29 Thread Colin Stanners

We have a few used ones. How many do you need Kurt?

On Mon, Apr 29, 2019, 12:44 PM Kurt Fankhauser  does anyone know where i can get a 900mhz HPOL stinger or super stinger? i
> can't find any vendor that stocks them anymore
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Re: [AFMUG] 900mhz stingers still available?

2019-04-29 Thread Matt Corcoran

I have about 20+ of the smaller yagi’s new in box. 900mz.   Make an offer.


Matt Corcoran | Network Engineer
m...@stratospeed.com | 231-680-0062


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From: AF  on behalf of David Hannum 

Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Date: Monday, April 29, 2019 at 4:15 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 900mhz stingers still available?

We used to use the little short 11dBi yagi's instead of the stingers.  Small 
profile - much better penetration . . . .

Dave H.

On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 3:50 PM Adam Moffett 
mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote:
What about the second hand market?  Somebody like SWG might have them.  
swginc.com
Relay Networks is another one.
I'm sure there are others.

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does anyone know where i can get a 900mhz HPOL stinger or super stinger? i 
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Re: [AFMUG] micropop/small cell customer agreements

2019-04-29 Thread dave


How does that work if they move out or the house burns down :)


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To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] micropop/small cell customer agreements

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"please don't unplug our stuff."

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Re: [AFMUG] Inexpensive Surveillance Cameras

2019-04-29 Thread Sean Heskett

they say 2 years but i wouldn't count on that if its in a high traffic area.

if the camera isn't recording much then it'd probably last 2 years

On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 9:39 AM SmarterBroadband  wrote:

> How long do the batteries actually last?
>
>
>
> *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Sean Heskett
> *Sent:* Friday, April 26, 2019 3:43 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Inexpensive Surveillance Cameras
>
>
>
> I installed the Blink cameras at my place and have been pretty happy.
>
>
>
> -Sean
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 3:22 PM Matt  wrote:
>
> Was looking for some inexpensive cameras for home, tower sites, etc.
> Have customers asking too.
>
> What is everyone using?  Amazon cloud cameras look appealing but I see
> no way to share camera access with other users for certain cameras
> without sharing them all.
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Re: [AFMUG] 900mhz stingers still available?

2019-04-29 Thread David Hannum

We used to use the little short 11dBi yagi's instead of the stingers.
Small profile - much better penetration . . . .

Dave H.

On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 3:50 PM Adam Moffett  wrote:

> What about the second hand market?  Somebody like SWG might have them.
> swginc.com
> Relay Networks is another one.
> I'm sure there are others.
>
>
> On 4/29/2019 3:42 PM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote:
>
> does anyone know where i can get a 900mhz HPOL stinger or super stinger? i
> can't find any vendor that stocks them anymore
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Re: [AFMUG] 900mhz stingers still available?

2019-04-29 Thread Adam Moffett

What about the second hand market?  Somebody like SWG might have them.  
swginc.com

Relay Networks is another one.
I'm sure there are others.


On 4/29/2019 3:42 PM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote:
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Re: [AFMUG] 900mhz stingers still available?

2019-04-29 Thread chuck

We don’t make them anymore.  Sorry.  

From: Kurt Fankhauser 
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2019 1:42 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: [AFMUG] 900mhz stingers still available?

does anyone know where i can get a 900mhz HPOL stinger or super stinger? i 
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[AFMUG] 900mhz stingers still available?

2019-04-29 Thread Kurt Fankhauser

does anyone know where i can get a 900mhz HPOL stinger or super stinger? i
can't find any vendor that stocks them anymore
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Re: [AFMUG] Kellems support grips for Cat5 cables

2019-04-29 Thread chuck

Nice, never knew such a beast existed.  

From: SmarterBroadband 
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2019 11:09 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Kellems support grips for Cat5 cables

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aWmuOwT_28

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2019 9:53 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Kellems support grips for Cat5 cables

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8uwFu1bTbA

From: SmarterBroadband 

Sent: Monday, April 29, 2019 10:44 AM

To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Kellems support grips for Cat5 cables

We just purchased these lace-up grips so we do not have to slide them down the 
drop.   Not used them yet.

https://www.sitepro1.com/store/cart.php?m=sp_search_results=lace-up

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2019 6:39 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Subject: [AFMUG] Kellems support grips for Cat5 cables

Has anyone used the “Chinese finger trap” style support grips for vertical runs 
of outdoor Cat5 cable in conduit?

I need to support 8 – 10 cables in a 150 ft straight run of 2 inch conduit, 
there is a pull box with a support hook at the top of this run, then another 
~30 feet of conduit to a box at the top where the individual cables would go 
through glands and out to the radios.

I did a test with a grip for 0.85 to 1.00 inch cable diameter, and a cable 
bundle that measured maybe 0.75 to 0.85 inches, and it’s very, very difficult 
to pass the bundle through the grip.  I can’t see sliding 50 feet of cable 
through it.  Even just a foot or two was a challenge.  Yet I’m reluctant to 
just use a larger grip, for fear it won’t grip properly.

Is there a trick to using these things?

https://www.graybar.com/store/en/gb/0850-to-1-inch-kellems-galvanized-steel-single-eye-bus-drop-support-grip-88147585

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Re: [AFMUG] Kellems support grips for Cat5 cables

2019-04-29 Thread SmarterBroadband

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aWmuOwT_28

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2019 9:53 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Kellems support grips for Cat5 cables

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8uwFu1bTbA

From: SmarterBroadband 

Sent: Monday, April 29, 2019 10:44 AM

To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Kellems support grips for Cat5 cables

We just purchased these lace-up grips so we do not have to slide them down the 
drop.   Not used them yet.

https://www.sitepro1.com/store/cart.php?m=sp_search_results 

=lace-up

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2019 6:39 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: [AFMUG] Kellems support grips for Cat5 cables

Has anyone used the “Chinese finger trap” style support grips for vertical runs 
of outdoor Cat5 cable in conduit?

I need to support 8 – 10 cables in a 150 ft straight run of 2 inch conduit, 
there is a pull box with a support hook at the top of this run, then another 
~30 feet of conduit to a box at the top where the individual cables would go 
through glands and out to the radios.

I did a test with a grip for 0.85 to 1.00 inch cable diameter, and a cable 
bundle that measured maybe 0.75 to 0.85 inches, and it’s very, very difficult 
to pass the bundle through the grip.  I can’t see sliding 50 feet of cable 
through it.  Even just a foot or two was a challenge.  Yet I’m reluctant to 
just use a larger grip, for fear it won’t grip properly.

Is there a trick to using these things?

https://www.graybar.com/store/en/gb/0850-to-1-inch-kellems-galvanized-steel-single-eye-bus-drop-support-grip-88147585

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Re: [AFMUG] Kellems support grips for Cat5 cables

2019-04-29 Thread chuck

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8uwFu1bTbA

From: SmarterBroadband 
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2019 10:44 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Kellems support grips for Cat5 cables

We just purchased these lace-up grips so we do not have to slide them down the 
drop.   Not used them yet.

https://www.sitepro1.com/store/cart.php?m=sp_search_results=lace-up

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2019 6:39 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Subject: [AFMUG] Kellems support grips for Cat5 cables

Has anyone used the “Chinese finger trap” style support grips for vertical runs 
of outdoor Cat5 cable in conduit?

I need to support 8 – 10 cables in a 150 ft straight run of 2 inch conduit, 
there is a pull box with a support hook at the top of this run, then another 
~30 feet of conduit to a box at the top where the individual cables would go 
through glands and out to the radios.

I did a test with a grip for 0.85 to 1.00 inch cable diameter, and a cable 
bundle that measured maybe 0.75 to 0.85 inches, and it’s very, very difficult 
to pass the bundle through the grip.  I can’t see sliding 50 feet of cable 
through it.  Even just a foot or two was a challenge.  Yet I’m reluctant to 
just use a larger grip, for fear it won’t grip properly.

Is there a trick to using these things?

https://www.graybar.com/store/en/gb/0850-to-1-inch-kellems-galvanized-steel-single-eye-bus-drop-support-grip-88147585

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Re: [AFMUG] micropop/small cell customer agreements

2019-04-29 Thread SmarterBroadband

sent

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sam Lambie
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2019 7:17 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] micropop/small cell customer agreements

 

I wouldn't mind seeing yours as well if you don't mind.

 

thanks

Sam

 

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Subject: [AFMUG] micropop/small cell customer agreements

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"please don't unplug our stuff."

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Re: [AFMUG] Kellems support grips for Cat5 cables

2019-04-29 Thread chuck

I am sure they are simple to use, but I did not see any documentation on how to 
do the lacing.  

From: SmarterBroadband 
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2019 10:44 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Kellems support grips for Cat5 cables

We just purchased these lace-up grips so we do not have to slide them down the 
drop.   Not used them yet.

https://www.sitepro1.com/store/cart.php?m=sp_search_results=lace-up

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2019 6:39 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Subject: [AFMUG] Kellems support grips for Cat5 cables

Has anyone used the “Chinese finger trap” style support grips for vertical runs 
of outdoor Cat5 cable in conduit?

I need to support 8 – 10 cables in a 150 ft straight run of 2 inch conduit, 
there is a pull box with a support hook at the top of this run, then another 
~30 feet of conduit to a box at the top where the individual cables would go 
through glands and out to the radios.

I did a test with a grip for 0.85 to 1.00 inch cable diameter, and a cable 
bundle that measured maybe 0.75 to 0.85 inches, and it’s very, very difficult 
to pass the bundle through the grip.  I can’t see sliding 50 feet of cable 
through it.  Even just a foot or two was a challenge.  Yet I’m reluctant to 
just use a larger grip, for fear it won’t grip properly.

Is there a trick to using these things?

https://www.graybar.com/store/en/gb/0850-to-1-inch-kellems-galvanized-steel-single-eye-bus-drop-support-grip-88147585

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Re: [AFMUG] Kellems support grips for Cat5 cables

2019-04-29 Thread SmarterBroadband

We just purchased these lace-up grips so we do not have to slide them down
the drop.   Not used them yet.

 

https://www.sitepro1.com/store/cart.php?m=sp_search_results

=lace-up

 

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2019 6:39 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Subject: [AFMUG] Kellems support grips for Cat5 cables

 

Has anyone used the "Chinese finger trap" style support grips for vertical
runs of outdoor Cat5 cable in conduit?

 

I need to support 8 - 10 cables in a 150 ft straight run of 2 inch conduit,
there is a pull box with a support hook at the top of this run, then another
~30 feet of conduit to a box at the top where the individual cables would go
through glands and out to the radios.

 

I did a test with a grip for 0.85 to 1.00 inch cable diameter, and a cable
bundle that measured maybe 0.75 to 0.85 inches, and it's very, very
difficult to pass the bundle through the grip.  I can't see sliding 50 feet
of cable through it.  Even just a foot or two was a challenge.  Yet I'm
reluctant to just use a larger grip, for fear it won't grip properly.

 

Is there a trick to using these things?

 

https://www.graybar.com/store/en/gb/0850-to-1-inch-kellems-galvanized-steel-
single-eye-bus-drop-support-grip-88147585

 

 

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Re: [AFMUG] Inexpensive Surveillance Cameras

2019-04-29 Thread SmarterBroadband

How long do the batteries actually last?

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sean Heskett
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2019 3:43 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Inexpensive Surveillance Cameras

I installed the Blink cameras at my place and have been pretty happy.

-Sean

On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 3:22 PM Matt mailto:matt.mailingli...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Was looking for some inexpensive cameras for home, tower sites, etc.
Have customers asking too.

What is everyone using?  Amazon cloud cameras look appealing but I see
no way to share camera access with other users for certain cameras
without sharing them all.

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Re: [AFMUG] Inexpensive Surveillance Cameras

2019-04-29 Thread Dennis Burgess via AF

 Anyway to integrate any of those doorbell camera system into a unifi server?
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From: AF  on behalf of Ken Hohhof 
Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2019 8:07:45 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Inexpensive Surveillance Cameras

The Nest cams seem to use less bandwidth, around 200 kbps per cam although I 
think you can change the video resolution setting, but they typically stream to 
the cloud DVR constantly.  And since they get put inside, rather than just at 
the front door, people tend to install a bunch of them, 5 is not uncommon, so 
even at 200 kbps per cam now you have 1 Mbps upstream.

The WiFi problem seems to be common to all these WiFi cameras.  I need to hire 
someone to explain the "sticking cheap little WiFi things with poor antennas 
everywhere and expecting them to work automagically" problem to customers 
because I'm losing patience and fear I will start biting heads off.  I notice 
that customers who actually hire a security camera company seem to end up with 
wired cameras.  Although ADT seems to install WiFi cameras.  So all burglars 
need to do is bring a WiFi jammer?  Maybe it comes down to security cameras 
bill for parts and labor while ADT has a fixed price and wants to minimize 
their labor?  More likely the local security camera guy is used to setting up 
businesses and takes a more robust approach.  I wonder when the police get the 
security camera footage from businesses near a crime, how many are "in the 
cloud" over the Internet or on someone's cellphone, and how many are stored 
locally?  Given that stores, banks, warehouses,  etc. may have dozens of 
cameras, I would think local storage starts to be more logical than streaming 
it all to cloud storage?  Or maybe they don't want thieves to steal the hard 
drive from the security system?  I would hope that's in a locked room.

-Original Message-
From: AF  On Behalf Of Robert
Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2019 12:18 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Inexpensive Surveillance Cameras

They only use the bandwidth when they are motion triggered which was a
large part when I am using them.   The majority of the issues we see
with people are because it is placed outside of a good wifi signal.

On 4/27/19 10:09 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
> I don't have personal experience, but I have found customers with Ring 
> doorbells to be high maintenance customers.  They complain about a lag of a 
> few seconds in triggering video to their phone, which somehow they think must 
> be an Internet problem.  The Ring doorbells also seem to need a lot of 
> upstream bandwidth, like >1 Mbps per camera, so that people with more than 
> one of them can max out the upstream on their Internet connection.  I'm not 
> sure why you need to see the UPS guy's butt walking away from your door in 
> 1080p high def.  Maybe this is based on earlier generations of the Ring 
> product and they have improved.  One customer recently reported that the 
> police had caught a burglar based on license plate info from a neighbor's 
> Ring doorbell, so maybe that is more of a "ringing" endorsement.
>
> Chuck probably has FTTH, so upstream bandwidth may not be a scarce commodity.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AF  On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
> Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2019 11:54 AM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Inexpensive Surveillance Cameras
>
> So I will put that in the “less than ringing endorsement” column.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Apr 27, 2019, at 10:26 AM, Robert Andrews  wrote:
>>
>> I'm using ring, but the website support is marginal..
>>
>>> On 04/27/2019 08:31 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>> I want one of the front door door bell cameras.  Just have not picked one.  
>>> Any recommendations for that?
>>> *From:* Matt
>>> *Sent:* Saturday, April 27, 2019 9:25 AM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Inexpensive Surveillance Cameras I was
>>> looking hard at Blink as well. Is there a way on iPhone app to switch 
>>> accounts easily?  Say I have one blink account with tower site cameras etc. 
>>> I want to let certain other coworkers to have access

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