Re: [AFMUG] El Paso Mass shooting

2019-08-03 Thread Chuck McCown 
Tim, not the place for this.  Jaime is one of our oldest friends here.  He is 
frustrated and hurting.  

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> On Aug 3, 2019, at 10:00 PM, Tim Reichhart  
> wrote:
> 
> Ken
> to your reply how about somebody shows little bit more sympathy also and not 
> automatically put the blame game on trump and his supporters which they don't 
> have anything to do with this besides what the dam media puts out to fit 
> there agenda because this is really starting to piss me off when people start 
> blaming trump and his supports on each shooting but don't want to blame the 
> media for disinformation and lies when they don't know what they are saying 
> or what facts they are getting. The problem here is today is media propaganda 
> and mental health issues and NOT trump and his supporters. If you cant look 
> past them 2 issues I just pointed out then your also part of the problem.
> 
> You all can call me names but I am seeing the bigger picture on whats going 
> on. This whole media propaganda goes all the way back to WW2 when hitler used 
> it against his own people and that is what media is doing right now.
> 
> So better read up on how media is using propaganda to change your mind set 
> how you think.
> 
> Tim
>  
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: "Ken Hohhof" 
> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
> Date: 08/03/19 09:56
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] El Paso Mass shooting
> 
> Jaime is a long time friend here at AF, part of the family if you will. 
> Someone has committed a despicable act against his community. I think we 
> could show a little more sympathy.
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> From: AF  On Behalf Of Tim Reichhart
> Sent: Saturday, August 3, 2019 8:28 PM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] El Paso Mass shooting
> 
>  
> 
> Ya ok he posted manifeso but it still doesnt mean he is linked to trump 
> anybody say that you all have is mental illness issue when there is gun 
> shooting and you all automatically blame trump and his supporters because of 
> this but failed to say there could be mental illness issue and media aka 
> media propaganda likes to twist things around to fit there agenda and that is 
> sad they dont want to come out and say this dude had mental illness issue but 
> want to go ahead and blame trump and his supporters for this. So get off your 
> high horse and stop blaming trump and his supporters for the media spin 
> around job. Lets focus on the issue at hand which is mental health issue 
> right now because NOBODY is talking about this in media land because they 
> want to blame trump and his supporters and this is why trump is going to win 
> 2020.
> 
>  
>  
> 
>  
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: "Jaime Solorza" 
> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
> Date: 08/03/19 08:35
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] El Paso Mass shooting
> 
> He posted his manifesto...the chief of police mentioned it in press 
> conference and FBI looking into hate crime. He drove from Allen, Texas to 
> help stop Hispanic invasion his social media posts are proTrump...
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> On Sat, Aug 3, 2019, 5:36 PM Tim Reichhart  
> wrote:
> 
> I am seeing this right now on local news how do you know he is trump 
> supporter and not some liberal sick minded person?
> 
>  
> 
> Tim
> 
>  
>  
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: "Jaime Solorza" 
> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
> Date: 08/03/19 07:20
> Subject: [AFMUG] El Paso Mass shooting
> 
> Lone gunman from Allen, Texas came to El Paso and killed 15 confirmed dead 
> with lots more injured!! Outside and inside a Walmart. El Paso blood banks 
> all have long lines with folks donating for all the injured in hospitals.
> 
> He was arrested by police and apparently wrote a manifesto against Hispanics 
> and a vocal Trump supporter.
> 
> This was one of the safest cities in the world and some worthless piece of 
> shit racist asshole fucked it up.
> 
> I am sure he will be put in isolation because otherwise he will be killed by 
> prisoners.
> 
> To say I am angry is an understatement...
> 
> My daughter knows some of the parents and children killed...they were at a 
> fund raiser for T-ball...fuck!!
> 
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Re: [AFMUG] El Paso Mass shooting

2019-08-03 Thread Tim Reichhart 

Ken
to your reply how about somebody shows little bit more sympathy also and not 
automatically put the blame game on trump and his supporters which they don't 
have anything to do with this besides what the dam media puts out to fit there 
agenda because this is really starting to piss me off when people start blaming 
trump and his supports on each shooting but don't want to blame the media for 
disinformation and lies when they don't know what they are saying or what facts 
they are getting. The problem here is today is media propaganda and mental 
health issues and NOT trump and his supporters. If you cant look past them 2 
issues I just pointed out then your also part of the problem.




You all can call me names but I am seeing the bigger picture on whats going on. 
This whole media propaganda goes all the way back to WW2 when hitler used it 
against his own people and that is what media is doing right now.




So better read up on how media is using propaganda to change your mind set how 
you think.




Tim

 

-Original Message-
From: "Ken Hohhof" 
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
Date: 08/03/19 09:56
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] El Paso Mass shooting


Jaime is a long time friend here at AF, part of the family if you will.  
Someone has committed a despicable act against his community.  I think we could 
show a little more sympathy.

 

 


From: AF  On Behalf Of Tim Reichhart
Sent: Saturday, August 3, 2019 8:28 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] El Paso Mass shooting


 

Ya ok he posted manifeso but it still doesnt mean he is linked to trump anybody 
say that you all have is mental illness issue when there is gun shooting and 
you all automatically blame trump and his supporters because of this but failed 
to say there could be mental illness issue and media aka media propaganda likes 
to twist things around to fit there agenda and that is sad they dont want to 
come out and say this dude had mental illness issue but want to go ahead and 
blame trump and his supporters for this. So get off your high horse and stop 
blaming trump and his supporters for the media spin around job. Lets focus on 
the issue at hand which is mental health issue right now because NOBODY is 
talking about this in media land because they want to blame trump and his 
supporters and this is why trump is going to win 2020.

 

 

 


-Original Message-
From: "Jaime Solorza" 
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
Date: 08/03/19 08:35
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] El Paso Mass shooting

He posted his manifesto...the chief of police mentioned it in press conference 
and FBI looking into hate crime. He drove from Allen, Texas to help stop 
Hispanic invasion his social media posts are proTrump...

 


 


On Sat, Aug 3, 2019, 5:36 PM Tim Reichhart  
wrote:



I am seeing this right now on local news how do you know he is trump supporter 
and not some liberal sick minded person?


 


Tim

 

 


-Original Message-
From: "Jaime Solorza" 
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
Date: 08/03/19 07:20
Subject: [AFMUG] El Paso Mass shooting

Lone gunman from Allen, Texas came to El Paso and killed 15 confirmed dead with 
lots more injured!! Outside and inside a Walmart. El Paso blood banks all have 
long lines with folks donating for all the injured in hospitals.

He was arrested by police and apparently wrote a manifesto against Hispanics 
and a vocal Trump supporter.


This was one of the safest cities in the world and some worthless piece of shit 
racist asshole fucked it up.


I am sure he will be put in isolation because otherwise he will be killed by 
prisoners.


To say I am angry is an understatement...


My daughter knows some of the parents and children killed...they were at a fund 
raiser for T-ball...fuck!!


 



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Re: [AFMUG] El Paso Mass shooting

2019-08-03 Thread Chuck McCown 
+1000  

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> On Aug 3, 2019, at 7:55 PM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:
> 
> Jaime is a long time friend here at AF, part of the family if you will.  
> Someone has committed a despicable act against his community.  I think we 
> could show a little more sympathy.
>  
>  
> From: AF  On Behalf Of Tim Reichhart
> Sent: Saturday, August 3, 2019 8:28 PM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] El Paso Mass shooting
>  
> Ya ok he posted manifeso but it still doesnt mean he is linked to trump 
> anybody say that you all have is mental illness issue when there is gun 
> shooting and you all automatically blame trump and his supporters because of 
> this but failed to say there could be mental illness issue and media aka 
> media propaganda likes to twist things around to fit there agenda and that is 
> sad they dont want to come out and say this dude had mental illness issue but 
> want to go ahead and blame trump and his supporters for this. So get off your 
> high horse and stop blaming trump and his supporters for the media spin 
> around job. Lets focus on the issue at hand which is mental health issue 
> right now because NOBODY is talking about this in media land because they 
> want to blame trump and his supporters and this is why trump is going to win 
> 2020.
>  
>  
>  
> -Original Message-
> From: "Jaime Solorza" 
> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
> Date: 08/03/19 08:35
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] El Paso Mass shooting
> 
> He posted his manifesto...the chief of police mentioned it in press 
> conference and FBI looking into hate crime. He drove from Allen, Texas to 
> help stop Hispanic invasion his social media posts are proTrump...
>  
>  
> On Sat, Aug 3, 2019, 5:36 PM Tim Reichhart  
> wrote:
> I am seeing this right now on local news how do you know he is trump 
> supporter and not some liberal sick minded person?
>  
> Tim
>  
>  
> -Original Message-
> From: "Jaime Solorza" 
> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
> Date: 08/03/19 07:20
> Subject: [AFMUG] El Paso Mass shooting
> 
> Lone gunman from Allen, Texas came to El Paso and killed 15 confirmed dead 
> with lots more injured!! Outside and inside a Walmart. El Paso blood banks 
> all have long lines with folks donating for all the injured in hospitals.
> He was arrested by police and apparently wrote a manifesto against Hispanics 
> and a vocal Trump supporter.
> This was one of the safest cities in the world and some worthless piece of 
> shit racist asshole fucked it up.
> I am sure he will be put in isolation because otherwise he will be killed by 
> prisoners.
> To say I am angry is an understatement...
> My daughter knows some of the parents and children killed...they were at a 
> fund raiser for T-ball...fuck!!
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Re: [AFMUG] El Paso Mass shooting

2019-08-03 Thread Tim Reichhart 
Jamie you stay stupid it just shows what your true colors are want to put the 
blame on trump and his supporters I mean have you ever thought about mental 
illness issue or just automatically blame trump and his supporters with out 
know the truth besides what the media wants to spin about this. I am getting 
sick and tired of people like you automatically blame some one on there 
political views but dont look at mental health issue here. Yeah its sad what 
this MOFO did but also you just cant blame trump and his supporters for this so 
its time you people like you get off your high horse and look at the bigger 
picture which is mental health issue that NOBODY wants to address about.



 

-Original Message-
From: "Jaime Solorza" 
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
Date: 08/03/19 10:44
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] El Paso Mass shooting

Stay stupid
On Sat, Aug 3, 2019, 7:28 PM Tim Reichhart  
wrote:


Ya ok he posted manifeso but it still doesnt mean he is linked to trump anybody 
say that you all have is mental illness issue when there is gun shooting and 
you all automatically blame trump and his supporters because of this but failed 
to say there could be mental illness issue and media aka media propaganda likes 
to twist things around to fit there agenda and that is sad they dont want to 
come out and say this dude had mental illness issue but want to go ahead and 
blame trump and his supporters for this. So get off your high horse and stop 
blaming trump and his supporters for the media spin around job. Lets focus on 
the issue at hand which is mental health issue right now because NOBODY is 
talking about this in media land because they want to blame trump and his 
supporters and this is why trump is going to win 2020.



 

-Original Message-
From: "Jaime Solorza" 
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
Date: 08/03/19 08:35
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] El Paso Mass shooting

He posted his manifesto...the chief of police mentioned it in press conference 
and FBI looking into hate crime. He drove from Allen, Texas to help stop 
Hispanic invasion his social media posts are proTrump...


On Sat, Aug 3, 2019, 5:36 PM Tim Reichhart  
wrote:



I am seeing this right now on local news how do you know he is trump supporter 
and not some liberal sick minded person?


Tim





-Original Message-
From: "Jaime Solorza" 
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
Date: 08/03/19 07:20
Subject: [AFMUG] El Paso Mass shooting

Lone gunman from Allen, Texas came to El Paso and killed 15 confirmed dead with 
lots more injured!! Outside and inside a Walmart. El Paso blood banks all have 
long lines with folks donating for all the injured in hospitals.He was arrested 
by police and apparently wrote a manifesto against Hispanics and a vocal Trump 
supporter.
This was one of the safest cities in the world and some worthless piece of shit 
racist asshole fucked it up.
I am sure he will be put in isolation because otherwise he will be killed by 
prisoners.
To say I am angry is an understatement...
My daughter knows some of the parents and children killed...they were at a fund 
raiser for T-ball...fuck!!



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Re: [AFMUG] El Paso Mass shooting

2019-08-03 Thread Jaime Solorza 
Ken, this Walmart has a Sam's across parking lot and next to Cielo Vista
Mall... Always busy with shoppers from here and Mexico plus
militarysome of the wounded and possibly victims are military.
Yes I am angry...even went to a vigil to reflect on this
Goodnight...

On Sat, Aug 3, 2019, 7:17 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:

> My dad fought the Third Reich in WWII, and this whole nationalist,
> populist, anti-immigrant, anti not same race/religion/ethnicity as me thing
> is sounding familiar to me.  Not really a left/right thing, but I think
> it’s a mistake to just write it off as some crazies or a mental health
> issue.  We may not have the equivalent of the Nazi SS, but we have self
> radicalizing vigilantes and online mobs.
>
>
>
> Also news reports say the gunman chose the day there is no sales tax so
> families can get school supplies, and he went to a Walmart,  knowing there
> would be lots of families and kids.  Which there were.  And if the
> manifesto is really his, apparently he wanted to shoot lots of Hispanics
> for “invading” Texas.
>
>
>
> Easy to see why Jaime would be upset at this.  How would you feel if some
> outsider came to your town to shoot a bunch of people like you, families
> and kids shopping for school supplies?  Pretty heinous.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *CBB - Jay Fuller
> *Sent:* Saturday, August 3, 2019 7:51 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] El Paso Mass shooting
>
>
>
>
>
> Are these crazies trying to outdo each other?
>
>
>
> Sent from my smartphone
>
>
>
> - Reply message -
> From: "Bill Prince" 
> To: 
> Subject: [AFMUG] El Paso Mass shooting
> Date: Sat, Aug 3, 2019 7:36 PM
>
>
>
> Not unlike the sicko at the Garlic Festival (regarding online hate posts).
>
> bp
>
> 
>
>
>
> On 8/3/2019 5:34 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>
> He posted his manifesto...the chief of police mentioned it in press
> conference and FBI looking into hate crime.  He drove from Allen, Texas to
> help stop Hispanic invasion his social media posts are proTrump...
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 3, 2019, 5:36 PM Tim Reichhart 
> wrote:
>
> I am seeing this right now on local news how do you know he is trump
> supporter and not some liberal sick minded person?
>
>
>
> Tim
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
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> -Original Message-
> From: "Jaime Solorza" 
> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
> Date: 08/03/19 07:20
> Subject: [AFMUG] El Paso Mass shooting
>
> Lone gunman from Allen, Texas came to El Paso and killed 15 confirmed dead
> with lots more injured!! Outside and inside a Walmart. El Paso blood banks
> all have long lines with folks donating for all the injured in hospitals.
>
> He was arrested by police and apparently wrote a manifesto against
> Hispanics and a vocal Trump supporter.
>
> This was one of the safest cities in the world and some worthless piece of
> shit racist asshole fucked it up.
>
> I am sure he will be put in isolation because otherwise he will be killed
> by prisoners.
>
> To say I am angry is an understatement...
>
> My daughter knows some of the parents and children killed...they were at a
> fund raiser for T-ball...fuck!!
>
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Re: [AFMUG] El Paso Mass shooting

2019-08-03 Thread Jaime Solorza 
Stay stupid

On Sat, Aug 3, 2019, 7:28 PM Tim Reichhart 
wrote:

> Ya ok he posted manifeso but it still doesnt mean he is linked to trump
> anybody say that you all have is mental illness issue when there is gun
> shooting and you all automatically blame trump and his supporters because
> of this but failed to say there could be mental illness issue and media aka
> media propaganda likes to twist things around to fit there agenda and that
> is sad they dont want to come out and say this dude had mental illness
> issue but want to go ahead and blame trump and his supporters for this. So
> get off your high horse and stop blaming trump and his supporters for the
> media spin around job. Lets focus on the issue at hand which is mental
> health issue right now because NOBODY is talking about this in media land
> because they want to blame trump and his supporters and this is why trump
> is going to win 2020.
>
>
>
>
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> -Original Message-
> From: "Jaime Solorza" 
> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
> Date: 08/03/19 08:35
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] El Paso Mass shooting
>
> He posted his manifesto...the chief of police mentioned it in press
> conference and FBI looking into hate crime. He drove from Allen, Texas to
> help stop Hispanic invasion his social media posts are proTrump...
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 3, 2019, 5:36 PM Tim Reichhart 
> wrote:
>
>> I am seeing this right now on local news how do you know he is trump
>> supporter and not some liberal sick minded person?
>>
>> Tim
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> -Original Message-
>> From: "Jaime Solorza" 
>> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
>> Date: 08/03/19 07:20
>> Subject: [AFMUG] El Paso Mass shooting
>>
>> Lone gunman from Allen, Texas came to El Paso and killed 15 confirmed
>> dead with lots more injured!! Outside and inside a Walmart. El Paso blood
>> banks all have long lines with folks donating for all the injured in
>> hospitals.
>> He was arrested by police and apparently wrote a manifesto against
>> Hispanics and a vocal Trump supporter.
>> This was one of the safest cities in the world and some worthless piece
>> of shit racist asshole fucked it up.
>> I am sure he will be put in isolation because otherwise he will be killed
>> by prisoners.
>> To say I am angry is an understatement...
>> My daughter knows some of the parents and children killed...they were at
>> a fund raiser for T-ball...fuck!!
>>
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Re: [AFMUG] El Paso Mass shooting

2019-08-03 Thread Tim Hardy 
So what you really meant to say after all that bull shit is thoughts and 
prayers - well we’re getting tired of that bull crap!  WTF?
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> On Aug 3, 2019, at 9:27 PM, Tim Reichhart  
> wrote:
> 
> Ya ok he posted manifeso but it still doesnt mean he is linked to trump 
> anybody say that you all have is mental illness issue when there is gun 
> shooting and you all automatically blame trump and his supporters because of 
> this but failed to say there could be mental illness issue and media aka 
> media propaganda likes to twist things around to fit there agenda and that is 
> sad they dont want to come out and say this dude had mental illness issue but 
> want to go ahead and blame trump and his supporters for this. So get off your 
> high horse and stop blaming trump and his supporters for the media spin 
> around job. Lets focus on the issue at hand which is mental health issue 
> right now because NOBODY is talking about this in media land because they 
> want to blame trump and his supporters and this is why trump is going to win 
> 2020.
> 
>  
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: "Jaime Solorza" 
> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
> Date: 08/03/19 08:35
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] El Paso Mass shooting
> 
> He posted his manifesto...the chief of police mentioned it in press 
> conference and FBI looking into hate crime. He drove from Allen, Texas to 
> help stop Hispanic invasion his social media posts are proTrump...
> 
> 
>> On Sat, Aug 3, 2019, 5:36 PM Tim Reichhart  
>> wrote:
>> I am seeing this right now on local news how do you know he is trump 
>> supporter and not some liberal sick minded person?
>> 
>> Tim
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: "Jaime Solorza" 
>> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
>> Date: 08/03/19 07:20
>> Subject: [AFMUG] El Paso Mass shooting
>> 
>> Lone gunman from Allen, Texas came to El Paso and killed 15 confirmed dead 
>> with lots more injured!! Outside and inside a Walmart. El Paso blood banks 
>> all have long lines with folks donating for all the injured in hospitals.
>> He was arrested by police and apparently wrote a manifesto against Hispanics 
>> and a vocal Trump supporter.
>> This was one of the safest cities in the world and some worthless piece of 
>> shit racist asshole fucked it up.
>> I am sure he will be put in isolation because otherwise he will be killed by 
>> prisoners.
>> To say I am angry is an understatement...
>> My daughter knows some of the parents and children killed...they were at a 
>> fund raiser for T-ball...fuck!!
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Re: [AFMUG] El Paso Mass shooting

2019-08-03 Thread Ken Hohhof 
Jaime is a long time friend here at AF, part of the family if you will.  
Someone has committed a despicable act against his community.  I think we could 
show a little more sympathy.

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Tim Reichhart
Sent: Saturday, August 3, 2019 8:28 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] El Paso Mass shooting

 

Ya ok he posted manifeso but it still doesnt mean he is linked to trump anybody 
say that you all have is mental illness issue when there is gun shooting and 
you all automatically blame trump and his supporters because of this but failed 
to say there could be mental illness issue and media aka media propaganda likes 
to twist things around to fit there agenda and that is sad they dont want to 
come out and say this dude had mental illness issue but want to go ahead and 
blame trump and his supporters for this. So get off your high horse and stop 
blaming trump and his supporters for the media spin around job. Lets focus on 
the issue at hand which is mental health issue right now because NOBODY is 
talking about this in media land because they want to blame trump and his 
supporters and this is why trump is going to win 2020.

 

 

 


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-Original Message-
From: "Jaime Solorza" mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com> >
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Date: 08/03/19 08:35
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] El Paso Mass shooting

He posted his manifesto...the chief of police mentioned it in press conference 
and FBI looking into hate crime. He drove from Allen, Texas to help stop 
Hispanic invasion his social media posts are proTrump...

 

 

On Sat, Aug 3, 2019, 5:36 PM Tim Reichhart mailto:timreichh...@hometowncable.net> > wrote:

I am seeing this right now on local news how do you know he is trump supporter 
and not some liberal sick minded person?

 

Tim

 

 


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-Original Message-
From: "Jaime Solorza" mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com> >
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Date: 08/03/19 07:20
Subject: [AFMUG] El Paso Mass shooting

Lone gunman from Allen, Texas came to El Paso and killed 15 confirmed dead with 
lots more injured!! Outside and inside a Walmart. El Paso blood banks all have 
long lines with folks donating for all the injured in hospitals.

He was arrested by police and apparently wrote a manifesto against Hispanics 
and a vocal Trump supporter.

This was one of the safest cities in the world and some worthless piece of shit 
racist asshole fucked it up.

I am sure he will be put in isolation because otherwise he will be killed by 
prisoners.

To say I am angry is an understatement...

My daughter knows some of the parents and children killed...they were at a fund 
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Re: [AFMUG] El Paso Mass shooting

2019-08-03 Thread Tim Reichhart 
Ya ok he posted manifeso but it still doesnt mean he is linked to trump anybody 
say that you all have is mental illness issue when there is gun shooting and 
you all automatically blame trump and his supporters because of this but failed 
to say there could be mental illness issue and media aka media propaganda likes 
to twist things around to fit there agenda and that is sad they dont want to 
come out and say this dude had mental illness issue but want to go ahead and 
blame trump and his supporters for this. So get off your high horse and stop 
blaming trump and his supporters for the media spin around job. Lets focus on 
the issue at hand which is mental health issue right now because NOBODY is 
talking about this in media land because they want to blame trump and his 
supporters and this is why trump is going to win 2020. 



 

-Original Message-
From: "Jaime Solorza" 
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
Date: 08/03/19 08:35
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] El Paso Mass shooting

He posted his manifesto...the chief of police mentioned it in press conference 
and FBI looking into hate crime.  He drove from Allen, Texas to help stop 
Hispanic invasion his social media posts are proTrump...


On Sat, Aug 3, 2019, 5:36 PM Tim Reichhart  
wrote:



I am seeing this right now on local news how do you know he is trump supporter 
and not some liberal sick minded person?


Tim



 

-Original Message-
From: "Jaime Solorza" 
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
Date: 08/03/19 07:20
Subject: [AFMUG] El Paso Mass shooting

Lone gunman from Allen, Texas came to El Paso and killed 15 confirmed dead with 
lots more injured!! Outside and inside a Walmart. El Paso blood banks all have 
long lines with folks donating for all the injured in hospitals.He was arrested 
by police and apparently wrote a manifesto against Hispanics and a vocal Trump 
supporter.
This was one of the safest cities in the world and some worthless piece of shit 
racist asshole fucked it up.
I am sure he will be put in isolation because otherwise he will be killed by 
prisoners.
To say I am angry is an understatement...
My daughter knows some of the parents and children killed...they were at a fund 
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Re: [AFMUG] El Paso Mass shooting

2019-08-03 Thread Ken Hohhof 
My dad fought the Third Reich in WWII, and this whole nationalist, populist, 
anti-immigrant, anti not same race/religion/ethnicity as me thing is sounding 
familiar to me.  Not really a left/right thing, but I think it’s a mistake to 
just write it off as some crazies or a mental health issue.  We may not have 
the equivalent of the Nazi SS, but we have self radicalizing vigilantes and 
online mobs.

 

Also news reports say the gunman chose the day there is no sales tax so 
families can get school supplies, and he went to a Walmart,  knowing there 
would be lots of families and kids.  Which there were.  And if the manifesto is 
really his, apparently he wanted to shoot lots of Hispanics for “invading” 
Texas.

 

Easy to see why Jaime would be upset at this.  How would you feel if some 
outsider came to your town to shoot a bunch of people like you, families and 
kids shopping for school supplies?  Pretty heinous.

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of CBB - Jay Fuller
Sent: Saturday, August 3, 2019 7:51 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] El Paso Mass shooting

 

 

Are these crazies trying to outdo each other? 

 

Sent from my smartphone

 

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From: "Bill Prince" mailto:part15...@gmail.com> >
To: mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: [AFMUG] El Paso Mass shooting
Date: Sat, Aug 3, 2019 7:36 PM

 

Not unlike the sicko at the Garlic Festival (regarding online hate posts).

bp

 

On 8/3/2019 5:34 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

He posted his manifesto...the chief of police mentioned it in press conference 
and FBI looking into hate crime.  He drove from Allen, Texas to help stop 
Hispanic invasion his social media posts are proTrump... 

 

 

On Sat, Aug 3, 2019, 5:36 PM Tim Reichhart mailto:timreichh...@hometowncable.net> > wrote:

I am seeing this right now on local news how do you know he is trump supporter 
and not some liberal sick minded person?

 

Tim

 

 

 


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-Original Message-
From: "Jaime Solorza" mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com> >
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Date: 08/03/19 07:20
Subject: [AFMUG] El Paso Mass shooting

Lone gunman from Allen, Texas came to El Paso and killed 15 confirmed dead with 
lots more injured!! Outside and inside a Walmart. El Paso blood banks all have 
long lines with folks donating for all the injured in hospitals. 

He was arrested by police and apparently wrote a manifesto against Hispanics 
and a vocal Trump supporter.

This was one of the safest cities in the world and some worthless piece of shit 
racist asshole fucked it up.

I am sure he will be put in isolation because otherwise he will be killed by 
prisoners.

To say I am angry is an understatement...

My daughter knows some of the parents and children killed...they were at a fund 
raiser for T-ball...fuck!!

 


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Re: [AFMUG] El Paso Mass shooting

2019-08-03 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller 
Are these crazies trying to outdo each other? 

Sent from my smartphone

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From: "Bill Prince" 
To: 
Subject: [AFMUG] El Paso Mass shooting
Date: Sat, Aug 3, 2019 7:36 PM

Not unlike the sicko at the Garlic Festival (regarding online
hate posts).


bp



On 8/3/2019 5:34 PM, Jaime Solorza
wrote:





He posted his manifesto...the chief of police
mentioned it in press conference and FBI looking into hate
crime.  He drove from Allen, Texas to help stop Hispanic
invasion his social media posts are proTrump...









On Sat, Aug 3, 2019, 5:36 PM
Tim Reichhart 
wrote:






I am seeing this right now on local news how do you
know he is trump supporter and not some liberal sick
minded person?





Tim






 




-Original Message-

From: "Jaime Solorza" 

To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 

Date: 08/03/19 07:20

Subject: [AFMUG] El Paso Mass shooting



Lone gunman from Allen, Texas came to El
Paso and killed 15 confirmed dead with lots more
injured!! Outside and inside a Walmart. El Paso blood
banks all have long lines with folks donating for all
the injured in hospitals.
He was arrested by police and
apparently wrote a manifesto against Hispanics and a
vocal Trump supporter.

This was one of the safest cities in
the world and some worthless piece of shit racist
asshole fucked it up.

I am sure he will be put in isolation
because otherwise he will be killed by prisoners.

To say I am angry is an
understatement...

My daughter knows some of the parents
and children killed...they were at a fund raiser for
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Re: [AFMUG] El Paso Mass shooting

2019-08-03 Thread Jaime Solorza 
20 confirmed dead, 26 injured...13 in critical condition...
This will not define us...he was not from here
We have a diverse community ...many inter racial families, many military
folks deploy here and come back here to live.

Our city is strong and will only get stronger...our law enforcement
responded in 6 minutes but an AK-47 with extra round clip killed people in
seconds.   He wore ear and eye protectiongave up at first encounter
with El Paso Policeyes, I blame Trump's divisiveness for giving these
terrorists wings.
Nothing you can say will move me from this point.  Fuck Trump.  Ban me, I
don't really give a damn.

On Sat, Aug 3, 2019, 6:34 PM Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> He posted his manifesto...the chief of police mentioned it in press
> conference and FBI looking into hate crime.  He drove from Allen, Texas to
> help stop Hispanic invasion his social media posts are proTrump...
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 3, 2019, 5:36 PM Tim Reichhart 
> wrote:
>
>> I am seeing this right now on local news how do you know he is trump
>> supporter and not some liberal sick minded person?
>>
>> Tim
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> -Original Message-
>> From: "Jaime Solorza" 
>> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
>> Date: 08/03/19 07:20
>> Subject: [AFMUG] El Paso Mass shooting
>>
>> Lone gunman from Allen, Texas came to El Paso and killed 15 confirmed
>> dead with lots more injured!! Outside and inside a Walmart. El Paso blood
>> banks all have long lines with folks donating for all the injured in
>> hospitals.
>> He was arrested by police and apparently wrote a manifesto against
>> Hispanics and a vocal Trump supporter.
>> This was one of the safest cities in the world and some worthless piece
>> of shit racist asshole fucked it up.
>> I am sure he will be put in isolation because otherwise he will be killed
>> by prisoners.
>> To say I am angry is an understatement...
>> My daughter knows some of the parents and children killed...they were at
>> a fund raiser for T-ball...fuck!!
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Re: [AFMUG] El Paso Mass shooting

2019-08-03 Thread Bill Prince 

  
  
Not unlike the sicko at the Garlic Festival (regarding online
  hate posts).

bp



On 8/3/2019 5:34 PM, Jaime Solorza
  wrote:


  
  He posted his manifesto...the chief of police
mentioned it in press conference and FBI looking into hate
crime.  He drove from Allen, Texas to help stop Hispanic
invasion his social media posts are proTrump...


  
  
  
On Sat, Aug 3, 2019, 5:36 PM
  Tim Reichhart 
  wrote:


  

  I am seeing this right now on local news how do you
know he is trump supporter and not some liberal sick
minded person?
  
  
  Tim
  
  
  
   
  
  
-Original Message-
From: "Jaime Solorza" 
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
Date: 08/03/19 07:20
Subject: [AFMUG] El Paso Mass shooting

Lone gunman from Allen, Texas came to El
  Paso and killed 15 confirmed dead with lots more
  injured!! Outside and inside a Walmart. El Paso blood
  banks all have long lines with folks donating for all
  the injured in hospitals.
  He was arrested by police and
apparently wrote a manifesto against Hispanics and a
vocal Trump supporter.
  This was one of the safest cities in
the world and some worthless piece of shit racist
asshole fucked it up.
  I am sure he will be put in isolation
because otherwise he will be killed by prisoners.
  To say I am angry is an
understatement...
  My daughter knows some of the parents
and children killed...they were at a fund raiser for
T-ball...fuck!!
  
  

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Re: [AFMUG] El Paso Mass shooting

2019-08-03 Thread Jaime Solorza 
He posted his manifesto...the chief of police mentioned it in press
conference and FBI looking into hate crime.  He drove from Allen, Texas to
help stop Hispanic invasion his social media posts are proTrump...


On Sat, Aug 3, 2019, 5:36 PM Tim Reichhart 
wrote:

> I am seeing this right now on local news how do you know he is trump
> supporter and not some liberal sick minded person?
>
> Tim
>
>
>
>
> --
> -Original Message-
> From: "Jaime Solorza" 
> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
> Date: 08/03/19 07:20
> Subject: [AFMUG] El Paso Mass shooting
>
> Lone gunman from Allen, Texas came to El Paso and killed 15 confirmed dead
> with lots more injured!! Outside and inside a Walmart. El Paso blood banks
> all have long lines with folks donating for all the injured in hospitals.
> He was arrested by police and apparently wrote a manifesto against
> Hispanics and a vocal Trump supporter.
> This was one of the safest cities in the world and some worthless piece of
> shit racist asshole fucked it up.
> I am sure he will be put in isolation because otherwise he will be killed
> by prisoners.
> To say I am angry is an understatement...
> My daughter knows some of the parents and children killed...they were at a
> fund raiser for T-ball...fuck!!
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Re: [AFMUG] El Paso Mass shooting

2019-08-03 Thread Tim Reichhart 
everybody likes to blame trump and his supporters for shootings but they dont 
want go put into fact its mental health issues you all need to stop blaming 
trump and his supporters for shootings ITS MENTAL HEALTH ISSUE!!! 



 
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> From: "Seth Mattinen"  
> To: af@af.afmug.com 
> Date: 08/03/19 07:43 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] El Paso Mass shooting 
> 
> On 8/3/19 4:35 PM, Tim Reichhart wrote:
> > I am seeing this right now on local news how do you know he is trump 
> > supporter and not some liberal sick minded person?
> > 
> 
> 
> Allegedly he posted a whole thing to 8chan first. I'm not going to go 
> try to find it and read it though, y'all can wade through that if you 
> truly want to.
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Re: [AFMUG] El Paso Mass shooting

2019-08-03 Thread Seth Mattinen 

On 8/3/19 4:35 PM, Tim Reichhart wrote:
I am seeing this right now on local news how do you know he is trump 
supporter and not some liberal sick minded person?





Allegedly he posted a whole thing to 8chan first. I'm not going to go 
try to find it and read it though, y'all can wade through that if you 
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Re: [AFMUG] El Paso Mass shooting

2019-08-03 Thread Tim Reichhart 

I am seeing this right now on local news how do you know he is trump supporter 
and not some liberal sick minded person?


Tim



 

-Original Message-
From: "Jaime Solorza" 
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
Date: 08/03/19 07:20
Subject: [AFMUG] El Paso Mass shooting

Lone gunman from Allen, Texas came to El Paso and killed 15 confirmed dead with 
lots more injured!! Outside and inside a Walmart.  El Paso blood banks all have 
long lines with folks donating for all the injured in hospitals. He was 
arrested by police and apparently wrote a manifesto against Hispanics and a 
vocal Trump supporter.
This was one of the safest cities in the world and some worthless piece of shit 
racist asshole fucked it up. 
I am sure he will be put in isolation because otherwise he will be killed by 
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To say I am angry is an understatement...
My daughter knows some of the parents and children killed...they were at a fund 
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[AFMUG] El Paso Mass shooting

2019-08-03 Thread Jaime Solorza 
Lone gunman from Allen, Texas came to El Paso and killed 15 confirmed dead
with lots more injured!! Outside and inside a Walmart.  El Paso blood banks
all have long lines with folks donating for all the injured in hospitals.
He was arrested by police and apparently wrote a manifesto against
Hispanics and a vocal Trump supporter.
This was one of the safest cities in the world and some worthless piece of
shit racist asshole fucked it up.
I am sure he will be put in isolation because otherwise he will be killed
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My daughter knows some of the parents and children killed...they were at a
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Re: [AFMUG] Testing used customer wifi routers

2019-08-03 Thread Mark - Myakka Technologies 
Title: Re: [AFMUG] Testing used customer wifi routers


TJ,

I set my returns up in house as a guest network.  Anyone that visits or employees using their phones will sign into that test router.  I also have a small computer that I connect to it that runs some non-critical monitoring software.  I try to let the test run for at least a month.


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Does anyone have a testing regiment for Wi-Fi routers that have been returned from the field that are still serviceable? 

I have a huge pile and I'm scared to deploy them as the cost of an additional truck roll outweighs biting the bullet and giving each new subscriber a brand new router but the cheap ass in me can't throw these away so I was thinking that if I could somehow automate a testing setup and run them for a week or two I would feel more comfortable putting them back in the field... I'm talking about Netgear Linksys D-Link etc

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Re: [AFMUG] Anyone recognize this batteries plug / end?

2019-08-03 Thread Chuck McCown 
Cut and solder.  These make it painless and easy.

https://www.amazon.com/Shrink-Solder-Sleeve-Crimpless-Connectors/dp/B01H7MU8W8/ref=asc_df_B01H7MU8W8/?tag=hyprod-20=df0=312177424933=1o1=g=10676821857244926696c===9029733=pla-574196826652=1===64958377347===312177424933=1o1=g=10676821857244926696==c===9029733=pla-574196826652

From: Brandon Yuchasz 
Sent: Friday, August 02, 2019 8:29 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] Anyone recognize this batteries plug / end?

I bought a Thurne explorer 110 BGAN satellite unit and its replacement battery 
is difficult to find and expensive. So I am considering hacking together my 
own. The one thing I cant figure out is what type of plug end it is. So I 
figured I would ask if anyone recognizes it. ( I will take better pictures next 
week of my unit when it get it if no-one knows from this)

https://shop.remotesatellite.com/products/nera-battery-pack-100-110

 

I’m thinking of buying something similar to this and then putting on the 
correct end. 

https://smile.amazon.com/Tenergy-Li-ion-2200mAh-Rechargeable-Battery/dp/B002Y2LJW0/ref=sr_1_7?crid=2YS11ZOUJK3MT=7.4+volt+lithium+ion+battery=1564799056=electronics=7.4+v%2Celectronics%2C273=1-7

 

Thanks in advance everyone.

 

Brandon

 




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Re: [AFMUG] Testing used customer wifi routers

2019-08-03 Thread Ken Hohhof 
DLink is dead to me.

 

First we deployed some of the 2310 series on the recommendation of an IT 
consultant that many of our customers used.  Those models had a 100% field 
failure rate and worse, many died a long lingering death where they made the 
Internet seem extremely slow, and you can guess who got blamed for that.

 

Then they had the DIR-601/615 which had a defective “QoS Engine feature” that 
had to be disabled or theupstream would be extremely slow, and a security bug 
which left UPnP exposed on the WAN side which they refused to fix in any but 
the final hardware version.

 

DLink has a long history of security bugs and got such a bad reputation that 
you rarely see their products for sale anymore.

 

A quick Google search for DLink security vulnerability comes up with this:

https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2018/10/19/serious-d-link-router-security-flaws-may-never-be-patched/

Over the years I have seen many similar articles.  All home router 
manufacturers have a poor record for security vulnerabilities, but DLink just 
doesn’t seem to care.

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Daniel White
Sent: Saturday, August 3, 2019 9:09 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group ; TJ Trout 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Testing used customer wifi routers

 

Why are they returned from the field?

If it's a disconnect... then default and redeploy and should be okay.  Your 
installer should verify functionality before they leave.  Granted this is 
apples and oranges... but back in my WISP days using D-Link 802.11G routers it 
wasn't an issue.

If you replaced a router onsite for whatever reason... immediately put it in 
the garbage bin.

Jacking around too much with a testing regimen is going to probably cost as 
much as the truck roll long term :-)

I would question though why do you have consumer grade routers being returned 
from the field?  Make them a part of the install the customer keeps, or better 
yet move on to a managed Wi-Fi system and get some extra revenue.

My 2 cents

 


  

 


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TJ Trout wrote on 8/2/19 21:50:



Does anyone have a testing regiment for Wi-Fi routers that have been returned 
from the field that are still serviceable? 

 

I have a huge pile and I'm scared to deploy them as the cost of an additional 
truck roll outweighs biting the bullet and giving each new subscriber a brand 
new router but the cheap ass in me can't throw these away so I was thinking 
that if I could somehow automate a testing setup and run them for a week or two 
I would feel more comfortable putting them back in the field... I'm talking 
about Netgear Linksys D-Link etc

 

Or am I crazy





 

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Re: [AFMUG] Testing used customer wifi routers

2019-08-03 Thread Daniel White 

Why are they returned from the field?

If it's a disconnect... then default and redeploy and should be okay. 
Your installer should verify functionality before they leave.  Granted 
this is apples and oranges... but back in my WISP days using D-Link 
802.11G routers it wasn't an issue.


If you replaced a router onsite for whatever reason... immediately put 
it in the garbage bin.


Jacking around too much with a testing regimen is going to probably cost 
as much as the truck roll long term :-)


I would question though why do you have consumer grade routers being 
returned from the field?  Make them a part of the install the customer 
keeps, or better yet move on to a managed Wi-Fi system and get some 
extra revenue.


My 2 cents

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TJ Trout wrote on 8/2/19 21:50:
Does anyone have a testing regiment for Wi-Fi routers that have been 
returned from the field that are still serviceable?


I have a huge pile and I'm scared to deploy them as the cost of an 
additional truck roll outweighs biting the bullet and giving each new 
subscriber a brand new router but the cheap ass in me can't throw 
these away so I was thinking that if I could somehow automate a 
testing setup and run them for a week or two I would feel more 
comfortable putting them back in the field... I'm talking about 
Netgear Linksys D-Link etc


Or am I crazy




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Re: [AFMUG] Testing used customer wifi routers

2019-08-03 Thread Ken Hohhof 
Not really, because we only use Mikrotik for our leased/managed routers.  Some 
WISPs only use Calex or Readynet.  Or TP-Link or Cambium or Ubiquiti.  But I 
would only want to be responsible for a small number of brands/models out 
there.  If customer buys their own Belkin or Asus or Google Wifi or Eero or 
Orbi or whatever, it’s on them to maintain and manage them.  Oh, and any 
managed CPE router, I would want to be remotely upgrading the firmware unless 
it can be set to auto update, because … security patches and bug fixes.  Of 
course updates sometimes break stuff too.

 

Even if the hardware is still good, I consider most store-bought residential 
routers to have a useful life of 3-5 years, after that they are obsolete.  
Sorry, a perfectly functioning WRT54G is still e-waste.  10 years ago we didn’t 
have Facebook or video streaming or smartphones or IoT.  Or web pages that open 
100 TCP connections.  Some old routers have small TCP connection tables causing 
strange problems that customers will interpret as sucky Internet.

 

The other thing you’d need to track is certain brands/models are lemons.  DLink 
EBR2310/WBR2310, DLink DIR-615, actually anything from DLink.  Netgear 
WNR1000/2000 had high failure rate.  They should not be redeployed.

 

Up until 6-8 years ago we used to stock inexpensive “starter” routers in the 
install trucks and give them away to customers who hadn’t bought their own 
router.  It was nothing but trouble.  Customers didn’t say “cool, a free 
router”.  They blamed us for every problem they ever had with that router for 
years and years, and they expected to get free replacement routers and 
upgrades.  With 20/20 hindsight, I would only do that with a leased/managed 
router, and it would have to be more of a commercial or service provider router 
that is robust and has a long lifetime via firmware upgrades.  So that leads me 
to Mikrotik or Calix or something along those lines.  The problem of course 
with Mikrotik is they’re not very competitive with WiFi for FCC regions, plus 
many of their home routers are too expensive for the features and specs.  If we 
had the volume, we would probably be going with Calix.

 

The big carriers know to put their money into CAPEX and avoid OPEX.  Of course 
they also have the volume to get really good prices on things like routers and 
modems.

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Lewis Bergman
Sent: Saturday, August 3, 2019 6:53 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Testing used customer wifi routers

 

I think the cheap ass in you should take over and realize your right... It is 
cheaper to throw them away. Having said that, if you can't, resetting then to 
factory goes a long way to "fixing" a lot of those. In the long run it just 
seems those consumer level devices just don't last that long. If you are 
looking for a recycling project then default them and sell them on eBay. It 
will still cost you more than throwing them away but at least you won't feel 
bad about it. 

 

On Fri, Aug 2, 2019, 10:51 PM TJ Trout mailto:t...@voltbb.com> > wrote:

Does anyone have a testing regiment for Wi-Fi routers that have been returned 
from the field that are still serviceable? 

 

I have a huge pile and I'm scared to deploy them as the cost of an additional 
truck roll outweighs biting the bullet and giving each new subscriber a brand 
new router but the cheap ass in me can't throw these away so I was thinking 
that if I could somehow automate a testing setup and run them for a week or two 
I would feel more comfortable putting them back in the field... I'm talking 
about Netgear Linksys D-Link etc

 

Or am I crazy

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Re: [AFMUG] Anyone recognize this batteries plug / end?

2019-08-03 Thread Lewis Bergman 
Looks like a standard mokex to me but you could always follow TJ's advice
and splice the old one on.

On Fri, Aug 2, 2019, 9:29 PM Brandon Yuchasz  wrote:

> I bought a Thurne explorer 110 BGAN satellite unit and its replacement
> battery is difficult to find and expensive. So I am considering hacking
> together my own. The one thing I cant figure out is what type of plug end
> it is. So I figured I would ask if anyone recognizes it. ( I will take
> better pictures next week of my unit when it get it if no-one knows from
> this)
>
> https://shop.remotesatellite.com/products/nera-battery-pack-100-110
>
>
>
> I’m thinking of buying something similar to this and then putting on the
> correct end.
>
>
> https://smile.amazon.com/Tenergy-Li-ion-2200mAh-Rechargeable-Battery/dp/B002Y2LJW0/ref=sr_1_7?crid=2YS11ZOUJK3MT=7.4+volt+lithium+ion+battery=1564799056=electronics=7.4+v%2Celectronics%2C273=1-7
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance everyone.
>
>
>
> Brandon
>
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Re: [AFMUG] Testing used customer wifi routers

2019-08-03 Thread Lewis Bergman 
I think the cheap ass in you should take over and realize your right... It
is cheaper to throw them away. Having said that, if you can't, resetting
then to factory goes a long way to "fixing" a lot of those. In the long run
it just seems those consumer level devices just don't last that long. If
you are looking for a recycling project then default them and sell them on
eBay. It will still cost you more than throwing them away but at least you
won't feel bad about it.

On Fri, Aug 2, 2019, 10:51 PM TJ Trout  wrote:

> Does anyone have a testing regiment for Wi-Fi routers that have been
> returned from the field that are still serviceable?
>
> I have a huge pile and I'm scared to deploy them as the cost of an
> additional truck roll outweighs biting the bullet and giving each new
> subscriber a brand new router but the cheap ass in me can't throw these
> away so I was thinking that if I could somehow automate a testing setup and
> run them for a week or two I would feel more comfortable putting them back
> in the field... I'm talking about Netgear Linksys D-Link etc
>
> Or am I crazy
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