Re: [AFMUG] OT important number

2019-09-15 Thread chuck 
CW is fun.  It is all more fun when you know all the guys you are talking to.  
Just like here, there are communities.  

From: liddy303 
Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2019 12:20 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT important number

I could never get into ham radio much.   To me, once you get beyond the novelty 
of transmitting DX it all seems like boring small talk.   Maybe too 
introverted.  I dunno.

On Sun, Sep 15, 2019 at 12:17 PM  wrote:

  Now I am listening to nets...
  I had gone cold turkey many years ago...

  From: liddy303 
  Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2019 12:04 PM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT important number

  What about a web sdr?:

  http://www.sdrutah.org/websdr2.html  

  Just plug in 10Mhz

  On Sun, Sep 15, 2019 at 11:43 AM Chuck McCown  wrote:

That is what got me thinking about it.  
I was always calling the operator as a kid to synch the clocks and my 
watch. 

I thought it would be ironic if I could find a listen live WWV stream.  So 
far I have not found one.  Of course using it for precision time 
synchronization would be silly since you would need the internet to listen and 
if you have the internet...

But geomagnetic storm info used to be broadcast so many minutes after the 
hour.  Back when I cared about such things.  

From: Ken Hohhof 
Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2019 11:23 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT important number

https://www.gocomics.com/pearlsbeforeswine/2019/09/15





From: AF  On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2019 11:34 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] OT important number



303-499-7111



Can’t find a way to listen live on the internet...



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Re: [AFMUG] OT important number

2019-09-15 Thread liddy303 
I could never get into ham radio much.   To me, once you get beyond the
novelty of transmitting DX it all seems like boring small talk.   Maybe too
introverted.  I dunno.

On Sun, Sep 15, 2019 at 12:17 PM  wrote:

> Now I am listening to nets...
> I had gone cold turkey many years ago...
>
> *From:* liddy303
> *Sent:* Sunday, September 15, 2019 12:04 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT important number
>
> What about a web sdr?:
>
> http://www.sdrutah.org/websdr2.html
>
> Just plug in 10Mhz
>
> On Sun, Sep 15, 2019 at 11:43 AM Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
>> That is what got me thinking about it.
>> I was always calling the operator as a kid to synch the clocks and my
>> watch.
>>
>> I thought it would be ironic if I could find a listen live WWV stream.
>> So far I have not found one.  Of course using it for precision time
>> synchronization would be silly since you would need the internet to listen
>> and if you have the internet...
>>
>> But geomagnetic storm info used to be broadcast so many minutes after the
>> hour.  Back when I cared about such things.
>>
>> *From:* Ken Hohhof
>> *Sent:* Sunday, September 15, 2019 11:23 AM
>> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT important number
>>
>>
>> https://www.gocomics.com/pearlsbeforeswine/2019/09/15
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
>> *Sent:* Sunday, September 15, 2019 11:34 AM
>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT important number
>>
>>
>>
>> 303-499-7111
>>
>>
>>
>> Can’t find a way to listen live on the internet...
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>>
>>
>> Guess I will have to build a SW receiver or just look at my phone...
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Re: [AFMUG] OT important number

2019-09-15 Thread chuck 
Now I am listening to nets...
I had gone cold turkey many years ago...

From: liddy303 
Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2019 12:04 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT important number

What about a web sdr?:

http://www.sdrutah.org/websdr2.html  

Just plug in 10Mhz

On Sun, Sep 15, 2019 at 11:43 AM Chuck McCown  wrote:

  That is what got me thinking about it.  
  I was always calling the operator as a kid to synch the clocks and my watch. 

  I thought it would be ironic if I could find a listen live WWV stream.  So 
far I have not found one.  Of course using it for precision time 
synchronization would be silly since you would need the internet to listen and 
if you have the internet...

  But geomagnetic storm info used to be broadcast so many minutes after the 
hour.  Back when I cared about such things.  

  From: Ken Hohhof 
  Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2019 11:23 AM
  To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT important number

  https://www.gocomics.com/pearlsbeforeswine/2019/09/15





  From: AF  On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
  Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2019 11:34 AM
  To: af@af.afmug.com
  Subject: [AFMUG] OT important number



  303-499-7111



  Can’t find a way to listen live on the internet...



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Re: [AFMUG] OT important number

2019-09-15 Thread chuck 
That is pretty fun.  


From: liddy303 
Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2019 12:04 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT important number

What about a web sdr?:

http://www.sdrutah.org/websdr2.html  

Just plug in 10Mhz

On Sun, Sep 15, 2019 at 11:43 AM Chuck McCown  wrote:

  That is what got me thinking about it.  
  I was always calling the operator as a kid to synch the clocks and my watch. 

  I thought it would be ironic if I could find a listen live WWV stream.  So 
far I have not found one.  Of course using it for precision time 
synchronization would be silly since you would need the internet to listen and 
if you have the internet...

  But geomagnetic storm info used to be broadcast so many minutes after the 
hour.  Back when I cared about such things.  

  From: Ken Hohhof 
  Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2019 11:23 AM
  To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT important number

  https://www.gocomics.com/pearlsbeforeswine/2019/09/15





  From: AF  On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
  Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2019 11:34 AM
  To: af@af.afmug.com
  Subject: [AFMUG] OT important number



  303-499-7111



  Can’t find a way to listen live on the internet...



  Guess I will have to build a SW receiver or just look at my phone...


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Re: [AFMUG] OT important number

2019-09-15 Thread liddy303 
What about a web sdr?:

http://www.sdrutah.org/websdr2.html

Just plug in 10Mhz

On Sun, Sep 15, 2019 at 11:43 AM Chuck McCown  wrote:

> That is what got me thinking about it.
> I was always calling the operator as a kid to synch the clocks and my
> watch.
>
> I thought it would be ironic if I could find a listen live WWV stream.  So
> far I have not found one.  Of course using it for precision time
> synchronization would be silly since you would need the internet to listen
> and if you have the internet...
>
> But geomagnetic storm info used to be broadcast so many minutes after the
> hour.  Back when I cared about such things.
>
> *From:* Ken Hohhof
> *Sent:* Sunday, September 15, 2019 11:23 AM
> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT important number
>
>
> https://www.gocomics.com/pearlsbeforeswine/2019/09/15
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
> *Sent:* Sunday, September 15, 2019 11:34 AM
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT important number
>
>
>
> 303-499-7111
>
>
>
> Can’t find a way to listen live on the internet...
>
>
>
> Guess I will have to build a SW receiver or just look at my phone...
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Re: [AFMUG] OT important number

2019-09-15 Thread Chuck McCown 
That is what got me thinking about it.  
I was always calling the operator as a kid to synch the clocks and my watch. 

I thought it would be ironic if I could find a listen live WWV stream.  So far 
I have not found one.  Of course using it for precision time synchronization 
would be silly since you would need the internet to listen and if you have the 
internet...

But geomagnetic storm info used to be broadcast so many minutes after the hour. 
 Back when I cared about such things.  

From: Ken Hohhof 
Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2019 11:23 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT important number

https://www.gocomics.com/pearlsbeforeswine/2019/09/15

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2019 11:34 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] OT important number

 

303-499-7111

 

Can’t find a way to listen live on the internet...

 

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Re: [AFMUG] OT important number

2019-09-15 Thread Ken Hohhof 
https://www.gocomics.com/pearlsbeforeswine/2019/09/15

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2019 11:34 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] OT important number

 

303-499-7111

 

Can’t find a way to listen live on the internet...

 

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[AFMUG] OT important number

2019-09-15 Thread Chuck McCown 
303-499-7111

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Re: [AFMUG] OT stock for sale

2019-09-15 Thread Chuck McCown 
They had hoped to get enough users that they could become a major market 
influencer with promotions.  I still think that model could work.  That is why 
I invested big ($250) on them.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 15, 2019, at 8:40 AM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:
> 
> Seems to be another case of sell below cost and make it up on volume.
>  
> Specifically, their strategy seems to have been to sell subscriptions for 
> $10/mo allowing you to watch up to 30 movies per month, yet if you watched 
> even 2, they lost money.  They got investors to make up the difference 
> between revenue and costs.  Apparently they thought if they got enough 
> subscribers, the theater chains would be forced to negotiate discounts with 
> them.
>  
> What could go wrong?
>  
> 1)  The money would run out.
> 2)  The theater chains would offer their own subscription services.
> 3)  All of the above.
>  
> A surprising number of big name companies lose tremendous amounts of money 
> selling below cost, with investors making up the difference.  Like Uber.  I 
> suspect all the new video streaming services are selling below cost to get 
> market share.  Eventually there is always a day of reckoning.  Either the 
> investors lose their money and the company fails, or the prices get jacked 
> up.  But investors keep throwing cash at these startups, hoping to get in on 
> the next Amazon.
>  
>  
> From: AF  On Behalf Of Bill Prince
> Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2019 9:14 AM
> To: af@af.afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT stock for sale
>  
> Get any Enron?
> 
> bp
> 
>  
> On 9/14/2019 7:46 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
> Oh, I had some of that too!
>  
> Sent from my iPhone
>  
> On Sep 14, 2019, at 6:50 PM, Rex-List Account  wrote:
>  
> Willing to trade for MCI stock?
>  
> From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
> Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2019 4:20 PM
> To: af@af.afmug.com
> Subject: [AFMUG] OT stock for sale
>  
> Anyone want my moviepass stock.  Make you a good deal. 
>  
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Re: [AFMUG] OT stock for sale

2019-09-15 Thread Chuck McCown 
No but as soon as Enron acquired Hartford Steam Boiler Insurance Co I never got 
another order for my supermarket coffin freezer temp alarm systems.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 15, 2019, at 8:14 AM, Bill Prince  wrote:
> 
> Get any Enron?
> 
> bp
> 
> 
>> On 9/14/2019 7:46 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>> Oh, I had some of that too!
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 14, 2019, at 6:50 PM, Rex-List Account  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Willing to trade for MCI stock?
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>>> Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2019 4:20 PM
>>> To: af@af.afmug.com
>>> Subject: [AFMUG] OT stock for sale
>>>  
>>> Anyone want my moviepass stock.  Make you a good deal. 
>>>  
>>> 
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Re: [AFMUG] GPON SFP switch?

2019-09-15 Thread Gino A. Villarini 
Looks like Q1 2020 availability…

From: AF  on behalf of Carl Peterson 

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I had no idea such a thing existed.

On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 2:21 PM Gino A. Villarini 
mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>> wrote:
You can always usea sfp cage extender :

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Date: Thursday, September 12, 2019 at 12:48 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GPON SFP switch?

That isn't the sub, it is the headend.  Street price currently seems to be 
about ∞ if you need them right now.
If these are ever not vaporware it would open some amazing possibilities.  
Imagine a Siklu 10Gig ring with one or two of these hanging off of each one to 
feed a passive plant in a MDU.  (never mind the extra special gland you would 
need...)

On Tue, Sep 10, 2019 at 9:02 AM Dev 
mailto:d...@logicalwebhost.com>> wrote:
> GPON uses a TDMA system.
> The OLT handles the timing and scheduling.

Thanks so much for simple explanation Jim, please let all the salesmen in the 
OLT world know this is what is happening, they can’t explain the black magic 
(without a powerpoint showing a cloud shape).

> It seems they have moved to 10gpon:
> http://tibitcom.com/technology/

Thanks Gino for the link, apparently I’m not the only one who’s thinking about 
this. I wonder what the street price is for this, sounds expensive still per 
sub.
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Re: [AFMUG] OT stock for sale

2019-09-15 Thread Ken Hohhof 
Seems to be another case of sell below cost and make it up on volume.

 

Specifically, their strategy seems to have been to sell subscriptions for
$10/mo allowing you to watch up to 30 movies per month, yet if you watched
even 2, they lost money.  They got investors to make up the difference
between revenue and costs.  Apparently they thought if they got enough
subscribers, the theater chains would be forced to negotiate discounts with
them.

 

What could go wrong?

 

1)  The money would run out.

2)  The theater chains would offer their own subscription services.

3)  All of the above.

 

A surprising number of big name companies lose tremendous amounts of money
selling below cost, with investors making up the difference.  Like Uber.  I
suspect all the new video streaming services are selling below cost to get
market share.  Eventually there is always a day of reckoning.  Either the
investors lose their money and the company fails, or the prices get jacked
up.  But investors keep throwing cash at these startups, hoping to get in on
the next Amazon.

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2019 9:14 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT stock for sale

 

Get any Enron?

bp

 

On 9/14/2019 7:46 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

Oh, I had some of that too!
 
Sent from my iPhone
 

On Sep 14, 2019, at 6:50 PM, Rex-List Account
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Willing to trade for MCI stock?
 
From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
 
Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2019 4:20 PM
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Subject: [AFMUG] OT stock for sale
 
Anyone want my moviepass stock.  Make you a good deal. 
 
 
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Re: [AFMUG] OT stock for sale

2019-09-15 Thread Bill Prince 

  
  
Get any Enron?

bp



On 9/14/2019 7:46 PM, Chuck McCown
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  Oh, I had some of that too!

Sent from my iPhone


  
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Willing to trade for MCI stock?
 
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Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2019 4:20 PM
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Subject: [AFMUG] OT stock for sale
 
Anyone want my moviepass stock.  Make you a good deal. 
 

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