Re: [AFMUG] Customer signal issues: UBNT versus KP Performance 2.4 omni's
We have KP 2 and 5 omnis
I have found they out perform the UBNT units
better signal levels and they dont end up with water/ice inside as the
UBNT ones do
We have changed out almost everyone of our 54 sites
Mitch
On 4/26/2019 1:23 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
A lot of antenna manufacturers (maybe even the majority) advertise the
-6db beamwidth these days... and some list both.
I've opened up a few different brands of 2.4ghz dual polarity omnis,
and the guts looked pretty much identical on all of them, so I'm
sceptical that there's really much difference in performance between
any of them... but I haven't used any KPP 2.4ghz omnis, so I'm not
sure if they're the same as some other brands or not.
On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 1:03 PM Mike Hammett <mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote:
A lot of the measurement stuff is for the birds anyway. Use it to
get in the same ballpark, but then actually look at the darn patterns.
-
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*From: *"Dan Spitler" mailto:d...@common.net>>
*To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
*Sent: *Friday, April 26, 2019 12:59:02 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Customer signal issues: UBNT versus KP
Performance 2.4 omni's
Ubnt advertises the -6 dBi beamwidth vs the typical -3 dBi.
In the case of the omni, there's a -5 dBi falloff in the H chain
at "0°" and "180°"
On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 10:44 AM Robert Andrews
mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>> wrote:
I also thought that UBNT also measured their antennas
differently than
most everyone else? But I believe they did so to give better
numbers
than competitors, which would actually give worse numbers to
the cpe's
in the field? Just saying that 13 ubnt does not equal 13 with
anyone else?
Best,
Robert
On 04/26/2019 09:21 AM, Matt Corcoran wrote:
> The omni radiation patterns are not perfectly round.
Maybe the
> Ubiquiti antenna was pointed optimally at them while the
new antenna is
> not, or is better rounded.
>
> Also the gain varies within the frequency range. Old
antenna might have
> been target more towards wifi, while the other might be
targeted more
> for 2.5/2.6ghz BRS/EBS LTE.
>
> Both should have graphs so you can see the differences.
>
> *Matt*
>
> *From: *AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> on behalf of Jay Weekley
> mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net>>
> *Reply-To: *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
> *Date: *Friday, April 26, 2019 at 12:12 PM
> *To: *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
> *Subject: *[AFMUG] Customer signal issues: UBNT versus KP
Performance
> 2.4 omni's
>
> After a storm we noticed that customer signal levels dropped
a lot on a
> 2.4 GHz omni. Especially the received signals on the AP.
Water had
> gotten in so we replaced the omni, radio and the connectors
and the
> signal levels were better but didn't return to their
original levels and
> are still about 5 db lower than they were before the storm.
The original
> omni was a Ubiquiti AMO-2G13 and was replaced with a 13 dBi
> KPPA-2GHZ-DPOMA-WC-2.
>
> The Ubiquiti antenna has 2 degrees of downtilt versus 1 with
the KP
> Performance antenna. Would this be enough difference to
cause the
> problem? What else could it be?
>
> Here are the antenna data sheets:
> KP Performance antenna.
> https://streakwave.com/mmSWAVE1/Video/amo_ds_20170106.pdf
>
<https://streakwave.com/mmSWAVE1/Video/amo_ds_20170106.pdf?fbclid=IwAR2W3cHhzAJtt2pIxOoqbWsgj0_UwOTjfpCXi5QhKf8llEoJ0KchQtVBy7g>
Re: [AFMUG] Customer signal issues: UBNT versus KP Performance 2.4 omni's
A lot of antenna manufacturers (maybe even the majority) advertise the -6db beamwidth these days... and some list both. I've opened up a few different brands of 2.4ghz dual polarity omnis, and the guts looked pretty much identical on all of them, so I'm sceptical that there's really much difference in performance between any of them... but I haven't used any KPP 2.4ghz omnis, so I'm not sure if they're the same as some other brands or not. On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 1:03 PM Mike Hammett wrote: > A lot of the measurement stuff is for the birds anyway. Use it to get in > the same ballpark, but then actually look at the darn patterns. > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > -- > *From: *"Dan Spitler" > *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" > *Sent: *Friday, April 26, 2019 12:59:02 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Customer signal issues: UBNT versus KP Performance > 2.4 omni's > > Ubnt advertises the -6 dBi beamwidth vs the typical -3 dBi. > In the case of the omni, there's a -5 dBi falloff in the H chain at "0°" > and "180°" > > On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 10:44 AM Robert Andrews > wrote: > >> I also thought that UBNT also measured their antennas differently than >> most everyone else? But I believe they did so to give better numbers >> than competitors, which would actually give worse numbers to the cpe's >> in the field? Just saying that 13 ubnt does not equal 13 with anyone >> else? >> >> Best, >> Robert >> >> On 04/26/2019 09:21 AM, Matt Corcoran wrote: >> > The omni radiation patterns are not perfectly round.Maybe the >> > Ubiquiti antenna was pointed optimally at them while the new antenna >> is >> > not, or is better rounded. >> > >> > Also the gain varies within the frequency range. Old antenna might >> have >> > been target more towards wifi, while the other might be targeted more >> > for 2.5/2.6ghz BRS/EBS LTE. >> > >> > Both should have graphs so you can see the differences. >> > >> > *Matt* >> > >> > *From: *AF on behalf of Jay Weekley >> > >> > *Reply-To: *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >> > *Date: *Friday, April 26, 2019 at 12:12 PM >> > *To: *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >> > *Subject: *[AFMUG] Customer signal issues: UBNT versus KP Performance >> > 2.4 omni's >> > >> > After a storm we noticed that customer signal levels dropped a lot on a >> > 2.4 GHz omni. Especially the received signals on the AP. Water had >> > gotten in so we replaced the omni, radio and the connectors and the >> > signal levels were better but didn't return to their original levels >> and >> > are still about 5 db lower than they were before the storm. The >> original >> > omni was a Ubiquiti AMO-2G13 and was replaced with a 13 dBi >> > KPPA-2GHZ-DPOMA-WC-2. >> > >> > The Ubiquiti antenna has 2 degrees of downtilt versus 1 with the KP >> > Performance antenna. Would this be enough difference to cause the >> > problem? What else could it be? >> > >> > Here are the antenna data sheets: >> > KP Performance antenna. >> > https://streakwave.com/mmSWAVE1/Video/amo_ds_20170106.pdf >> > < >> https://streakwave.com/mmSWAVE1/Video/amo_ds_20170106.pdf?fbclid=IwAR2W3cHhzAJtt2pIxOoqbWsgj0_UwOTjfpCXi5QhKf8llEoJ0KchQtVBy7g >> > >> > >> > Ubiquiti antenna >> > https://www.streakwave.com/…/KPPA-2GHZ-DPOMA-WC-2_datasheet… >> > < >> https://www.streakwave.com/mmSWAVE1/Video/KPPA-2GHZ-DPOMA-WC-2_datasheets_US.pdf?fbclid=IwAR3Fffk8DlLf21wvYH_eidyLy2ndaZe-qhb_17LBVF_NGz7OEla1dp5a1_E >> > >> > >> > -- >> > *Jay Weekley* >> > *Cyber Broadband >> > * >> > >> > < >> http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=emailclient >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Virus-free. www.avg.com >> > < >> http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=emailclient> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Customer signal issues: UBNT versus KP Performance 2.4 omni's
A lot of the measurement stuff is for the birds anyway. Use it to get in the same ballpark, but then actually look at the darn patterns. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Dan Spitler" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Friday, April 26, 2019 12:59:02 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer signal issues: UBNT versus KP Performance 2.4 omni's Ubnt advertises the -6 dBi beamwidth vs the typical -3 dBi. In the case of the omni, there's a -5 dBi falloff in the H chain at "0 ° " and "180 ° " On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 10:44 AM Robert Andrews < i...@avantwireless.com > wrote: I also thought that UBNT also measured their antennas differently than most everyone else? But I believe they did so to give better numbers than competitors, which would actually give worse numbers to the cpe's in the field? Just saying that 13 ubnt does not equal 13 with anyone else? Best, Robert On 04/26/2019 09:21 AM, Matt Corcoran wrote: > The omni radiation patterns are not perfectly round. Maybe the > Ubiquiti antenna was pointed optimally at them while the new antenna is > not, or is better rounded. > > Also the gain varies within the frequency range. Old antenna might have > been target more towards wifi, while the other might be targeted more > for 2.5/2.6ghz BRS/EBS LTE. > > Both should have graphs so you can see the differences. > > *Matt* > > *From: *AF < af-boun...@af.afmug.com > on behalf of Jay Weekley > < par...@cyberbroadband.net > > *Reply-To: *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group < af@af.afmug.com > > *Date: *Friday, April 26, 2019 at 12:12 PM > *To: *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group < af@af.afmug.com > > *Subject: *[AFMUG] Customer signal issues: UBNT versus KP Performance > 2.4 omni's > > After a storm we noticed that customer signal levels dropped a lot on a > 2.4 GHz omni. Especially the received signals on the AP. Water had > gotten in so we replaced the omni, radio and the connectors and the > signal levels were better but didn't return to their original levels and > are still about 5 db lower than they were before the storm. The original > omni was a Ubiquiti AMO-2G13 and was replaced with a 13 dBi > KPPA-2GHZ-DPOMA-WC-2. > > The Ubiquiti antenna has 2 degrees of downtilt versus 1 with the KP > Performance antenna. Would this be enough difference to cause the > problem? What else could it be? > > Here are the antenna data sheets: > KP Performance antenna. > https://streakwave.com/mmSWAVE1/Video/amo_ds_20170106.pdf > < > https://streakwave.com/mmSWAVE1/Video/amo_ds_20170106.pdf?fbclid=IwAR2W3cHhzAJtt2pIxOoqbWsgj0_UwOTjfpCXi5QhKf8llEoJ0KchQtVBy7g > > > > Ubiquiti antenna > https://www.streakwave.com/ …/KPPA-2GHZ-DPOMA-WC-2_datasheet… > < > https://www.streakwave.com/mmSWAVE1/Video/KPPA-2GHZ-DPOMA-WC-2_datasheets_US.pdf?fbclid=IwAR3Fffk8DlLf21wvYH_eidyLy2ndaZe-qhb_17LBVF_NGz7OEla1dp5a1_E > > > > -- > *Jay Weekley* > *Cyber Broadband > * > > < > http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=emailclient > > > > > > Virus-free. www.avg.com > < > http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=emailclient > > > > > > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Customer signal issues: UBNT versus KP Performance 2.4 omni's
Ubnt advertises the -6 dBi beamwidth vs the typical -3 dBi. In the case of the omni, there's a -5 dBi falloff in the H chain at "0°" and "180°" On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 10:44 AM Robert Andrews wrote: > I also thought that UBNT also measured their antennas differently than > most everyone else? But I believe they did so to give better numbers > than competitors, which would actually give worse numbers to the cpe's > in the field? Just saying that 13 ubnt does not equal 13 with anyone else? > > Best, > Robert > > On 04/26/2019 09:21 AM, Matt Corcoran wrote: > > The omni radiation patterns are not perfectly round.Maybe the > > Ubiquiti antenna was pointed optimally at them while the new antenna is > > not, or is better rounded. > > > > Also the gain varies within the frequency range. Old antenna might have > > been target more towards wifi, while the other might be targeted more > > for 2.5/2.6ghz BRS/EBS LTE. > > > > Both should have graphs so you can see the differences. > > > > *Matt* > > > > *From: *AF on behalf of Jay Weekley > > > > *Reply-To: *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > > *Date: *Friday, April 26, 2019 at 12:12 PM > > *To: *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > > *Subject: *[AFMUG] Customer signal issues: UBNT versus KP Performance > > 2.4 omni's > > > > After a storm we noticed that customer signal levels dropped a lot on a > > 2.4 GHz omni. Especially the received signals on the AP. Water had > > gotten in so we replaced the omni, radio and the connectors and the > > signal levels were better but didn't return to their original levels and > > are still about 5 db lower than they were before the storm. The original > > omni was a Ubiquiti AMO-2G13 and was replaced with a 13 dBi > > KPPA-2GHZ-DPOMA-WC-2. > > > > The Ubiquiti antenna has 2 degrees of downtilt versus 1 with the KP > > Performance antenna. Would this be enough difference to cause the > > problem? What else could it be? > > > > Here are the antenna data sheets: > > KP Performance antenna. > > https://streakwave.com/mmSWAVE1/Video/amo_ds_20170106.pdf > > < > https://streakwave.com/mmSWAVE1/Video/amo_ds_20170106.pdf?fbclid=IwAR2W3cHhzAJtt2pIxOoqbWsgj0_UwOTjfpCXi5QhKf8llEoJ0KchQtVBy7g > > > > > > Ubiquiti antenna > > https://www.streakwave.com/…/KPPA-2GHZ-DPOMA-WC-2_datasheet… > > < > https://www.streakwave.com/mmSWAVE1/Video/KPPA-2GHZ-DPOMA-WC-2_datasheets_US.pdf?fbclid=IwAR3Fffk8DlLf21wvYH_eidyLy2ndaZe-qhb_17LBVF_NGz7OEla1dp5a1_E > > > > > > -- > > *Jay Weekley* > > *Cyber Broadband > > * > > > > < > http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=emailclient > > > > > > > > > > Virus-free. www.avg.com > > < > http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=emailclient> > > > > > > > > > > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Customer signal issues: UBNT versus KP Performance 2.4 omni's
I also thought that UBNT also measured their antennas differently than most everyone else? But I believe they did so to give better numbers than competitors, which would actually give worse numbers to the cpe's in the field? Just saying that 13 ubnt does not equal 13 with anyone else? Best, Robert On 04/26/2019 09:21 AM, Matt Corcoran wrote: The omni radiation patterns are not perfectly round.Maybe the Ubiquiti antenna was pointed optimally at them while the new antenna is not, or is better rounded. Also the gain varies within the frequency range. Old antenna might have been target more towards wifi, while the other might be targeted more for 2.5/2.6ghz BRS/EBS LTE. Both should have graphs so you can see the differences. *Matt* *From: *AF on behalf of Jay Weekley *Reply-To: *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group *Date: *Friday, April 26, 2019 at 12:12 PM *To: *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group *Subject: *[AFMUG] Customer signal issues: UBNT versus KP Performance 2.4 omni's After a storm we noticed that customer signal levels dropped a lot on a 2.4 GHz omni. Especially the received signals on the AP. Water had gotten in so we replaced the omni, radio and the connectors and the signal levels were better but didn't return to their original levels and are still about 5 db lower than they were before the storm. The original omni was a Ubiquiti AMO-2G13 and was replaced with a 13 dBi KPPA-2GHZ-DPOMA-WC-2. The Ubiquiti antenna has 2 degrees of downtilt versus 1 with the KP Performance antenna. Would this be enough difference to cause the problem? What else could it be? Here are the antenna data sheets: KP Performance antenna. https://streakwave.com/mmSWAVE1/Video/amo_ds_20170106.pdf <https://streakwave.com/mmSWAVE1/Video/amo_ds_20170106.pdf?fbclid=IwAR2W3cHhzAJtt2pIxOoqbWsgj0_UwOTjfpCXi5QhKf8llEoJ0KchQtVBy7g> Ubiquiti antenna https://www.streakwave.com/…/KPPA-2GHZ-DPOMA-WC-2_datasheet… <https://www.streakwave.com/mmSWAVE1/Video/KPPA-2GHZ-DPOMA-WC-2_datasheets_US.pdf?fbclid=IwAR3Fffk8DlLf21wvYH_eidyLy2ndaZe-qhb_17LBVF_NGz7OEla1dp5a1_E> -- *Jay Weekley* *Cyber Broadband * <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=emailclient> Virus-free. www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=emailclient> -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Customer signal issues: UBNT versus KP Performance 2.4 omni's
You could try that. Signal levels can change pretty significantly when you rotate omnis. The downtilt could be an issue, if it's a tall tower, and the clients are close... but in most cases, 1 degree vs 2 degrees isn't going to make a difference. On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 11:41 AM Jay Weekley wrote: > So, rotate the omni? > > Matt Corcoran wrote: > > > > The omni radiation patterns are not perfectly round.Maybe the > > Ubiquiti antenna was pointed optimally at them while the new antenna > > is not, or is better rounded. > > > > Also the gain varies within the frequency range. Old antenna might > > have been target more towards wifi, while the other might be targeted > > more for 2.5/2.6ghz BRS/EBS LTE. > > > > Both should have graphs so you can see the differences. > > > > *Matt* > > > > *From: *AF on behalf of Jay Weekley > > > > *Reply-To: *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > > *Date: *Friday, April 26, 2019 at 12:12 PM > > *To: *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > > *Subject: *[AFMUG] Customer signal issues: UBNT versus KP Performance > > 2.4 omni's > > > > After a storm we noticed that customer signal levels dropped a lot on > > a 2.4 GHz omni. Especially the received signals on the AP. Water had > > gotten in so we replaced the omni, radio and the connectors and the > > signal levels were better but didn't return to their original levels > > and are still about 5 db lower than they were before the storm. The > > original omni was a Ubiquiti AMO-2G13 and was replaced with a 13 dBi > > KPPA-2GHZ-DPOMA-WC-2. > > > > The Ubiquiti antenna has 2 degrees of downtilt versus 1 with the KP > > Performance antenna. Would this be enough difference to cause the > > problem? What else could it be? > > > > Here are the antenna data sheets: > > KP Performance antenna. > > https://streakwave.com/mmSWAVE1/Video/amo_ds_20170106.pdf > > < > https://streakwave.com/mmSWAVE1/Video/amo_ds_20170106.pdf?fbclid=IwAR2W3cHhzAJtt2pIxOoqbWsgj0_UwOTjfpCXi5QhKf8llEoJ0KchQtVBy7g > > > > > > Ubiquiti antenna > > https://www.streakwave.com/…/KPPA-2GHZ-DPOMA-WC-2_datasheet… > > < > https://www.streakwave.com/mmSWAVE1/Video/KPPA-2GHZ-DPOMA-WC-2_datasheets_US.pdf?fbclid=IwAR3Fffk8DlLf21wvYH_eidyLy2ndaZe-qhb_17LBVF_NGz7OEla1dp5a1_E > > > > > > -- > > *Jay Weekley* > > *Cyber Broadband > > * > > > > < > http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=emailclient > > > > > > > > > > Virus-free. www.avg.com > > < > http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=emailclient> > > > > > > > > > > > -- > *Jay Weekley* > *Cyber Broadband > * > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > https://www.avg.com > > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Customer signal issues: UBNT versus KP Performance 2.4 omni's
So, rotate the omni? Matt Corcoran wrote: The omni radiation patterns are not perfectly round.Maybe the Ubiquiti antenna was pointed optimally at them while the new antenna is not, or is better rounded. Also the gain varies within the frequency range. Old antenna might have been target more towards wifi, while the other might be targeted more for 2.5/2.6ghz BRS/EBS LTE. Both should have graphs so you can see the differences. *Matt* *From: *AF on behalf of Jay Weekley *Reply-To: *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group *Date: *Friday, April 26, 2019 at 12:12 PM *To: *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group *Subject: *[AFMUG] Customer signal issues: UBNT versus KP Performance 2.4 omni's After a storm we noticed that customer signal levels dropped a lot on a 2.4 GHz omni. Especially the received signals on the AP. Water had gotten in so we replaced the omni, radio and the connectors and the signal levels were better but didn't return to their original levels and are still about 5 db lower than they were before the storm. The original omni was a Ubiquiti AMO-2G13 and was replaced with a 13 dBi KPPA-2GHZ-DPOMA-WC-2. The Ubiquiti antenna has 2 degrees of downtilt versus 1 with the KP Performance antenna. Would this be enough difference to cause the problem? What else could it be? Here are the antenna data sheets: KP Performance antenna. https://streakwave.com/mmSWAVE1/Video/amo_ds_20170106.pdf <https://streakwave.com/mmSWAVE1/Video/amo_ds_20170106.pdf?fbclid=IwAR2W3cHhzAJtt2pIxOoqbWsgj0_UwOTjfpCXi5QhKf8llEoJ0KchQtVBy7g> Ubiquiti antenna https://www.streakwave.com/…/KPPA-2GHZ-DPOMA-WC-2_datasheet… <https://www.streakwave.com/mmSWAVE1/Video/KPPA-2GHZ-DPOMA-WC-2_datasheets_US.pdf?fbclid=IwAR3Fffk8DlLf21wvYH_eidyLy2ndaZe-qhb_17LBVF_NGz7OEla1dp5a1_E> -- *Jay Weekley* *Cyber Broadband * <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=emailclient> Virus-free. www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=emailclient> -- *Jay Weekley* *Cyber Broadband * --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Customer signal issues: UBNT versus KP Performance 2.4 omni's
The omni radiation patterns are not perfectly round.Maybe the Ubiquiti antenna was pointed optimally at them while the new antenna is not, or is better rounded. Also the gain varies within the frequency range. Old antenna might have been target more towards wifi, while the other might be targeted more for 2.5/2.6ghz BRS/EBS LTE. Both should have graphs so you can see the differences. Matt From: AF on behalf of Jay Weekley Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Date: Friday, April 26, 2019 at 12:12 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: [AFMUG] Customer signal issues: UBNT versus KP Performance 2.4 omni's After a storm we noticed that customer signal levels dropped a lot on a 2.4 GHz omni. Especially the received signals on the AP. Water had gotten in so we replaced the omni, radio and the connectors and the signal levels were better but didn't return to their original levels and are still about 5 db lower than they were before the storm. The original omni was a Ubiquiti AMO-2G13 and was replaced with a 13 dBi KPPA-2GHZ-DPOMA-WC-2. The Ubiquiti antenna has 2 degrees of downtilt versus 1 with the KP Performance antenna. Would this be enough difference to cause the problem? What else could it be? Here are the antenna data sheets: KP Performance antenna. https://streakwave.com/mmSWAVE1/Video/amo_ds_20170106.pdf<https://streakwave.com/mmSWAVE1/Video/amo_ds_20170106.pdf?fbclid=IwAR2W3cHhzAJtt2pIxOoqbWsgj0_UwOTjfpCXi5QhKf8llEoJ0KchQtVBy7g> Ubiquiti antenna https://www.streakwave.com/…/KPPA-2GHZ-DPOMA-WC-2_datasheet…<https://www.streakwave.com/mmSWAVE1/Video/KPPA-2GHZ-DPOMA-WC-2_datasheets_US.pdf?fbclid=IwAR3Fffk8DlLf21wvYH_eidyLy2ndaZe-qhb_17LBVF_NGz7OEla1dp5a1_E> -- Jay Weekley Cyber Broadband [cid:image001.jpg@01D4FC2A.958563C0] [https://ipmcdn.avast.com/images/icons/icon-envelope-tick-green-avg-v1.png]<http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=emailclient> Virus-free. www.avg.com<http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=emailclient> -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
[AFMUG] Customer signal issues: UBNT versus KP Performance 2.4 omni's
After a storm we noticed that customer signal levels dropped a lot on a 2.4 GHz omni. Especially the received signals on the AP. Water had gotten in so we replaced the omni, radio and the connectors and the signal levels were better but didn't return to their original levels and are still about 5 db lower than they were before the storm. The original omni was a Ubiquiti AMO-2G13 and was replaced with a 13 dBi KPPA-2GHZ-DPOMA-WC-2. The Ubiquiti antenna has 2 degrees of downtilt versus 1 with the KP Performance antenna. Would this be enough difference to cause the problem? What else could it be? Here are the antenna data sheets: KP Performance antenna. https://streakwave.com/mmSWAVE1/Video/amo_ds_20170106.pdf Ubiquiti antenna https://www.streakwave.com/…/KPPA-2GHZ-DPOMA-WC-2_datasheet… -- Jay Weekley Cyber Broadband Virus-free. www.avg.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
