Re: [AFMUG] OT windows update issues

[Mike Hammett]

I have yet to find any way in which web mail is better than fat client mail, 
other than when the account you wish to check isn't in the fat client on your 
device. 




- 
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- Original Message -

From: "Darin Steffl"  
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"  
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 12:28:07 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT windows update issues 


Can I ask why anyone likes using desktop email programs? Ever since I was a 
kid, I've dreaded helping people with outlook, live mail, or thunderbird 
because of issues like you're describing. 


Also people who didn't set up IMAP so their emails disappeared off their email 
server and only existed on their computer. Then they didn't back things up so 
when their computer crashed, bye bye to all their emails. Or if they bought a 
new computer and need to migrate, it takes an hour or two to backup and move 
the outlook file. 


Holy crap I shiver when I think about desktop email. 


Gmail.com and then move on with life. Forget about database issues, new 
computers, spam filtering, multiple devices per account, backups, etc. 


You couldn't convince me to ever use desktop email. That's so 2001 haha 


On Tue, Nov 17, 2020, 12:05 PM Adam Moffett < dmmoff...@gmail.com > wrote: 




EM Client can read the Outlook calendar invites. It's free for 1 account. Paid 
version if you need to check multiple accounts. Mainly it's fast, even with a 
large Inbox. Highly recommend. 
It also syncs with my GMail Calendar. 
Thunderbird performance seems inversely proportional to how much mail I have. 
Haven't used Outlook since the 2003 version. 


On 11/17/2020 12:45 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: 




So, today it appears that my Windows Live Mail database is corrupt. Can only 
see headers. So switching to outlook but that is painful. 
I rolled back the windows update that happened last night but still dead WLM… 
sob… 

Have resisted outlook for years. Few times it would be nice. When someone sends 
a meeting or contact at least I can read it without having to use a text editor 
and parsing through the complex crap… 


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Re: [AFMUG] OT windows update issues

[James Howard]

I used to think that also but have changed my opinion to favoring Outlook 2019.

From: AF  On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 2:17 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT windows update issues

If you do have to come to the dark side, find a copy of office 2013, that's got 
the best outlook version

On Tue, Nov 17, 2020, 1:55 PM Matt Corcoran 
mailto:m...@stratospeed.com>> wrote:
-People that need help using desktop email programs should be using gmail 
instead.
-People who understand how to simply setup an imap account should use a desktop 
client for many advantages:  speed, offline cache, low data use, offline 
searchability, os integration, drag and drop, easy reorganization, attachment 
cache,   read/delete/send before you can get online. (Especially 
considering many of our customer locations have sketchy cell service.)

For Windows users here is 1 more reason…. Some idiot decided that the backspace 
button in your browser should dump the current webpage with your 90% complete 
email and go back to the previous webpage.

I’ve been using IMAP since macOS9 / AOL days.I haven’t used POP since 
Netscape navigator.  I use osx and ios Mail for gmail and Outlook for work.



From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> on behalf of 
Darin Steffl mailto:darin.ste...@mnwifi.com>>
Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
Date: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 at 1:29 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT windows update issues

Can I ask why anyone likes using desktop email programs? Ever since I was a 
kid, I've dreaded helping people with outlook, live mail, or thunderbird 
because of issues like you're describing.

Also people who didn't set up IMAP so their emails disappeared off their email 
server and only existed on their computer. Then they didn't back things up so 
when their computer crashed, bye bye to all their emails. Or if they bought a 
new computer and need to migrate, it takes an hour or two to backup and move 
the outlook file.

Holy crap I shiver when I think about desktop email.

Gmail.com and then move on with life. Forget about database issues, new 
computers, spam filtering, multiple devices per account, backups, etc.

You couldn't convince me to ever use desktop email. That's so 2001 haha

On Tue, Nov 17, 2020, 12:05 PM Adam Moffett 
mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote:

EM Client can read the Outlook calendar invites.  It's free for 1 account.  
Paid version if you need to check multiple accounts. Mainly it's fast, even 
with a large Inbox.  Highly recommend.

It also syncs with my GMail Calendar.

Thunderbird performance seems inversely proportional to how much mail I have.  
Haven't used Outlook since the 2003 version.


On 11/17/2020 12:45 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
So, today it appears that my Windows Live Mail database is corrupt.  Can only 
see headers.  So switching to outlook but that is painful.
I rolled back the windows update that happened last night but still dead WLM… 
sob…

Have resisted outlook for years.  Few times it would be nice.  When someone 
sends a meeting or contact at least I can read it without having to use a text 
editor and parsing through the complex crap…

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Re: [AFMUG] OT windows update issues

[Steve Jones]

If you do have to come to the dark side, find a copy of office 2013, that's
got the best outlook version

On Tue, Nov 17, 2020, 1:55 PM Matt Corcoran  wrote:

> -People that need help using desktop email programs *should* be using
> gmail instead.
>
> -People who understand how to simply setup an imap account should use a
> desktop client for many advantages:  speed, offline cache, low data use,
> offline searchability, os integration, drag and drop, easy reorganization,
> attachment cache,   read/delete/send before you can get online.
>   (Especially considering many of our customer locations have sketchy cell
> service.)
>
>
>
> For Windows users here is 1 more reason…. Some idiot decided that the
> backspace button in your browser should dump the current webpage with your
> 90% complete email and go back to the previous webpage.
>
>
>
> I’ve been using IMAP since macOS9 / AOL days.I haven’t used POP since
> Netscape navigator.  I use osx and ios Mail for gmail and Outlook for work.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From: *AF  on behalf of Darin Steffl <
> darin.ste...@mnwifi.com>
> *Reply-To: *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Date: *Tuesday, November 17, 2020 at 1:29 PM
> *To: *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT windows update issues
>
>
>
> Can I ask why anyone likes using desktop email programs? Ever since I was
> a kid, I've dreaded helping people with outlook, live mail, or thunderbird
> because of issues like you're describing.
>
>
>
> Also people who didn't set up IMAP so their emails disappeared off their
> email server and only existed on their computer. Then they didn't back
> things up so when their computer crashed, bye bye to all their emails. Or
> if they bought a new computer and need to migrate, it takes an hour or two
> to backup and move the outlook file.
>
>
>
> Holy crap I shiver when I think about desktop email.
>
>
>
> Gmail.com and then move on with life. Forget about database issues, new
> computers, spam filtering, multiple devices per account, backups, etc.
>
>
>
> You couldn't convince me to ever use desktop email. That's so 2001 haha
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 17, 2020, 12:05 PM Adam Moffett  wrote:
>
> EM Client can read the Outlook calendar invites.  It's free for 1
> account.  Paid version if you need to check multiple accounts. Mainly it's
> fast, even with a large Inbox.  Highly recommend.
>
> It also syncs with my GMail Calendar.
>
> Thunderbird performance seems inversely proportional to how much mail I
> have.  Haven't used Outlook since the 2003 version.
>
>
>
> On 11/17/2020 12:45 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
>
> So, today it appears that my Windows Live Mail database is corrupt.  Can
> only see headers.  So switching to outlook but that is painful.
>
> I rolled back the windows update that happened last night but still dead
> WLM… sob…
>
>
>
> Have resisted outlook for years.  Few times it would be nice.  When
> someone sends a meeting or contact at least I can read it without having to
> use a text editor and parsing through the complex crap…
>
>
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Re: [AFMUG] OT windows update issues

[Matt Corcoran]

-People that need help using desktop email programs should be using gmail 
instead.
-People who understand how to simply setup an imap account should use a desktop 
client for many advantages:  speed, offline cache, low data use, offline 
searchability, os integration, drag and drop, easy reorganization, attachment 
cache,   read/delete/send before you can get online. (Especially 
considering many of our customer locations have sketchy cell service.)

For Windows users here is 1 more reason…. Some idiot decided that the backspace 
button in your browser should dump the current webpage with your 90% complete 
email and go back to the previous webpage.

I’ve been using IMAP since macOS9 / AOL days.I haven’t used POP since 
Netscape navigator.  I use osx and ios Mail for gmail and Outlook for work.



From: AF  on behalf of Darin Steffl 

Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Date: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 at 1:29 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT windows update issues

Can I ask why anyone likes using desktop email programs? Ever since I was a 
kid, I've dreaded helping people with outlook, live mail, or thunderbird 
because of issues like you're describing.

Also people who didn't set up IMAP so their emails disappeared off their email 
server and only existed on their computer. Then they didn't back things up so 
when their computer crashed, bye bye to all their emails. Or if they bought a 
new computer and need to migrate, it takes an hour or two to backup and move 
the outlook file.

Holy crap I shiver when I think about desktop email.

Gmail.com and then move on with life. Forget about database issues, new 
computers, spam filtering, multiple devices per account, backups, etc.

You couldn't convince me to ever use desktop email. That's so 2001 haha

On Tue, Nov 17, 2020, 12:05 PM Adam Moffett 
mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote:

EM Client can read the Outlook calendar invites.  It's free for 1 account.  
Paid version if you need to check multiple accounts. Mainly it's fast, even 
with a large Inbox.  Highly recommend.

It also syncs with my GMail Calendar.

Thunderbird performance seems inversely proportional to how much mail I have.  
Haven't used Outlook since the 2003 version.


On 11/17/2020 12:45 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
So, today it appears that my Windows Live Mail database is corrupt.  Can only 
see headers.  So switching to outlook but that is painful.
I rolled back the windows update that happened last night but still dead WLM… 
sob…

Have resisted outlook for years.  Few times it would be nice.  When someone 
sends a meeting or contact at least I can read it without having to use a text 
editor and parsing through the complex crap…


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Re: [AFMUG] OT windows update issues

[Colin Stanners]

I've worked in places that are dozens or hundreds of miles from the nearest
cell tower, and not worth installing sat internet for a few days. Without
internet, having access to all email for lookup on a PC is very useful.
Starlink may change that limitation.

If a Gmail account gets cracked, it's very possible for all mail to get
intentionally deleted or for the account to be locked. Since Gmail is a
free service, there is no guarantee of recovery from that, either of
messages or access - you may simply lose everything. I use Thunderbird to
do a full download of my gmail account every few months to reduce that risk.


On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 12:29 PM Darin Steffl 
wrote:

> Can I ask why anyone likes using desktop email programs? Ever since I was
> a kid, I've dreaded helping people with outlook, live mail, or thunderbird
> because of issues like you're describing.
>
> Also people who didn't set up IMAP so their emails disappeared off their
> email server and only existed on their computer. Then they didn't back
> things up so when their computer crashed, bye bye to all their emails. Or
> if they bought a new computer and need to migrate, it takes an hour or two
> to backup and move the outlook file.
>
> Holy crap I shiver when I think about desktop email.
>
> Gmail.com and then move on with life. Forget about database issues, new
> computers, spam filtering, multiple devices per account, backups, etc.
>
> You couldn't convince me to ever use desktop email. That's so 2001 haha
>
> On Tue, Nov 17, 2020, 12:05 PM Adam Moffett  wrote:
>
>> EM Client can read the Outlook calendar invites.  It's free for 1
>> account.  Paid version if you need to check multiple accounts. Mainly it's
>> fast, even with a large Inbox.  Highly recommend.
>>
>> It also syncs with my GMail Calendar.
>>
>> Thunderbird performance seems inversely proportional to how much mail I
>> have.  Haven't used Outlook since the 2003 version.
>>
>>
>> On 11/17/2020 12:45 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
>>
>> So, today it appears that my Windows Live Mail database is corrupt.  Can
>> only see headers.  So switching to outlook but that is painful.
>>
>> I rolled back the windows update that happened last night but still dead
>> WLM… sob…
>>
>>
>>
>> Have resisted outlook for years.  Few times it would be nice.  When
>> someone sends a meeting or contact at least I can read it without having to
>> use a text editor and parsing through the complex crap…
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Re: [AFMUG] OT windows update issues

[Bill Prince]

  
  
Desktop email doesn't prevent you from using gmail, or any other
  main system for that matter. 

I use Thunderbird, and it allows me to access all my various
  email systems; some are gmail, one is yahoo mail, and one is a
  private email server. I access all of them at the same time
  through the same interface. At the same time, I can access the
  various email servers through their web mail interfaces. In fact,
  I can do both at the same time. I prefer using Thunderbird simply
  because it does them all at the same time.


bp

On 11/17/2020 10:28 AM, Darin Steffl
  wrote:


  
  Can I ask why anyone likes using desktop email
programs? Ever since I was a kid, I've dreaded helping people
with outlook, live mail, or thunderbird because of issues like
you're describing.


Also people who didn't set up IMAP so their
  emails disappeared off their email server and only existed on
  their computer. Then they didn't back things up so when their
  computer crashed, bye bye to all their emails. Or if they
  bought a new computer and need to migrate, it takes an hour or
  two to backup and move the outlook file. 


Holy crap I shiver when I think about desktop
  email. 


Gmail.com and then move on with life. Forget
  about database issues, new computers, spam filtering, multiple
  devices per account, backups, etc. 


You couldn't convince me to ever use desktop
  email. That's so 2001 haha
  
  
  
On Tue, Nov 17, 2020, 12:05 PM
  Adam Moffett  wrote:


  
EM Client can read the Outlook calendar invites.  It's
  free for 1 account.  Paid version if you need to check
  multiple accounts. Mainly it's fast, even with a large
  Inbox.  Highly recommend.  
It also syncs with my GMail Calendar.
Thunderbird performance seems inversely proportional to
  how much mail I have.  Haven't used Outlook since the 2003
  version.


On 11/17/2020 12:45 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:


  
So, today it appears that my
  Windows Live Mail database is corrupt.  Can only see
  headers.  So switching to outlook but that is
  painful.  
I rolled back the windows update
  that happened last night but still dead WLM… sob…  
 
Have resisted outlook for years. 
  Few times it would be nice.  When someone sends a
  meeting or contact at least I can read it without
  having to use a text editor and parsing through the
  complex crap…
  
  
  

  
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Re: [AFMUG] OT windows update issues

[Adam Moffett]

Because webmail is slow.  I can arrow key up and down through my inbox 
to skim the automated alerts and advertising and delete as I go.  I 
really don't think there's an equivalent in a web app.


I do use Gmail and IMAP with my desktop client, and I won't lose any 
mail due to a PC issue.  I did tech support for email clients from 1999 
until I stopped doing tech support.  It really wasn't hard.  The 
fundamentals are the same in all of them, so you just download whatever 
application they're using so you can see what they're looking at and 
walk them through it.


There are 30-something year olds in our office have the same perspective 
as you.  Those guys insist that supporting desktop email is too hard or 
something.  I'm only 4 years apart from them, so maybe I'm at the tail 
end of the "desktop email" group.  I'm Dave in this comic.


YOU KIDS TODAY, WITH YOUR "CLOUD COMPUTERS" AND YOUR "GOOGLY DOCS." IN 
MY DAY, WE ATTACHED FILES TO OUR EMAILS... --AND WE LIKED IT THAT WAY. 
DAVE, YOU'RE LIKE TWO YEARS



On 11/17/2020 1:28 PM, Darin Steffl wrote:
Can I ask why anyone likes using desktop email programs? Ever since I 
was a kid, I've dreaded helping people with outlook, live mail, or 
thunderbird because of issues like you're describing.


Also people who didn't set up IMAP so their emails disappeared off 
their email server and only existed on their computer. Then they 
didn't back things up so when their computer crashed, bye bye to all 
their emails. Or if they bought a new computer and need to migrate, it 
takes an hour or two to backup and move the outlook file.


Holy crap I shiver when I think about desktop email.

Gmail.com and then move on with life. Forget about database issues, 
new computers, spam filtering, multiple devices per account, backups, 
etc.


You couldn't convince me to ever use desktop email. That's so 2001 haha

On Tue, Nov 17, 2020, 12:05 PM Adam Moffett > wrote:


EM Client can read the Outlook calendar invites.  It's free for 1
account.  Paid version if you need to check multiple accounts.
Mainly it's fast, even with a large Inbox.  Highly recommend.

It also syncs with my GMail Calendar.

Thunderbird performance seems inversely proportional to how much
mail I have.  Haven't used Outlook since the 2003 version.


On 11/17/2020 12:45 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:


So, today it appears that my Windows Live Mail database is
corrupt.  Can only see headers.  So switching to outlook but that
is painful.

I rolled back the windows update that happened last night but
still dead WLM… sob…

Have resisted outlook for years. Few times it would be nice. 
When someone sends a meeting or contact at least I can read it
without having to use a text editor and parsing through the
complex crap…


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Re: [AFMUG] OT windows update issues

[Darin Steffl]

Can I ask why anyone likes using desktop email programs? Ever since I was a
kid, I've dreaded helping people with outlook, live mail, or thunderbird
because of issues like you're describing.

Also people who didn't set up IMAP so their emails disappeared off their
email server and only existed on their computer. Then they didn't back
things up so when their computer crashed, bye bye to all their emails. Or
if they bought a new computer and need to migrate, it takes an hour or two
to backup and move the outlook file.

Holy crap I shiver when I think about desktop email.

Gmail.com and then move on with life. Forget about database issues, new
computers, spam filtering, multiple devices per account, backups, etc.

You couldn't convince me to ever use desktop email. That's so 2001 haha

On Tue, Nov 17, 2020, 12:05 PM Adam Moffett  wrote:

> EM Client can read the Outlook calendar invites.  It's free for 1
> account.  Paid version if you need to check multiple accounts. Mainly it's
> fast, even with a large Inbox.  Highly recommend.
>
> It also syncs with my GMail Calendar.
>
> Thunderbird performance seems inversely proportional to how much mail I
> have.  Haven't used Outlook since the 2003 version.
>
>
> On 11/17/2020 12:45 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
>
> So, today it appears that my Windows Live Mail database is corrupt.  Can
> only see headers.  So switching to outlook but that is painful.
>
> I rolled back the windows update that happened last night but still dead
> WLM… sob…
>
>
>
> Have resisted outlook for years.  Few times it would be nice.  When
> someone sends a meeting or contact at least I can read it without having to
> use a text editor and parsing through the complex crap…
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Re: [AFMUG] OT windows update issues

[Adam Moffett]

EM Client can read the Outlook calendar invites.  It's free for 1 
account.  Paid version if you need to check multiple accounts. Mainly 
it's fast, even with a large Inbox.  Highly recommend.


It also syncs with my GMail Calendar.

Thunderbird performance seems inversely proportional to how much mail I 
have.  Haven't used Outlook since the 2003 version.



On 11/17/2020 12:45 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:


So, today it appears that my Windows Live Mail database is corrupt.  
Can only see headers.  So switching to outlook but that is painful.


I rolled back the windows update that happened last night but still 
dead WLM… sob…


Have resisted outlook for years.  Few times it would be nice.  When 
someone sends a meeting or contact at least I can read it without 
having to use a text editor and parsing through the complex crap…



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Re: [AFMUG] OT windows update issues

[Chuck McCown via AF]

I had outlook already on the machine so I just turned it on.  I got the reading 
pane configured to look similar to WLM.  Glad to see this note, at least my new 
mail on my new domain is working with AF.  

I had a good many year run with WLM.  I like the fact you can right click a 
header and instantly see message source.  The search is better and simpler than 
outlook.  

 

But if someone sent you a v card or meeting invite it was always a pain.  And 
yeah, it was a bit buggy but not so much so that I couldn’t live with it.  
Until this morning.  I found a database restoral procedure for it that I may 
try.  Hopefully my home machine is still OK.  

 

From: Colin Stanners [mailto:cstann...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 10:59 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Cc: Chuck McCown 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT windows update issues

 

Is there a reason that you don't wish to use Thunderbird with the Lightning 
calendar add-on?

 

WLM had some limitations - IIRC it would just crash when exposed to a huge 
number of messages.

 

On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 11:46 AM Chuck McCown via AF mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > wrote:

So, today it appears that my Windows Live Mail database is corrupt.  Can only 
see headers.  So switching to outlook but that is painful.  

I rolled back the windows update that happened last night but still dead WLM… 
sob…  

 

Have resisted outlook for years.  Few times it would be nice.  When someone 
sends a meeting or contact at least I can read it without having to use a text 
editor and parsing through the complex crap…

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Re: [AFMUG] OT windows update issues

[Colin Stanners]

Is there a reason that you don't wish to use Thunderbird with the Lightning
calendar add-on?

WLM had some limitations - IIRC it would just crash when exposed to a huge
number of messages.

On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 11:46 AM Chuck McCown via AF 
wrote:

> So, today it appears that my Windows Live Mail database is corrupt.  Can
> only see headers.  So switching to outlook but that is painful.
>
> I rolled back the windows update that happened last night but still dead
> WLM… sob…
>
>
>
> Have resisted outlook for years.  Few times it would be nice.  When
> someone sends a meeting or contact at least I can read it without having to
> use a text editor and parsing through the complex crap…
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[AFMUG] OT windows update issues

[Chuck McCown via AF]

So, today it appears that my Windows Live Mail database is corrupt.  Can
only see headers.  So switching to outlook but that is painful.  

I rolled back the windows update that happened last night but still dead
WLM. sob.  

 

Have resisted outlook for years.  Few times it would be nice.  When someone
sends a meeting or contact at least I can read it without having to use a
text editor and parsing through the complex crap.

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Re: [AFMUG] OT windows update

[Chuck McCown]

It finished in about 4 hours but then immediately undid some or all of it.  Not 
sure what happened therer.

From: James Howard 
Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2019 2:16 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT windows update

It ran the other day on my PC.  Took about 2 hours on an i7.

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2019 12:24 PM
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Wonder how long I should wait?

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: [AFMUG] OT windows update

[Robert]

You will know it's done when a window comes up with a bitcoin address...

On 8/20/19 11:42 AM, Bill Prince wrote:

Don't worry. It's just encrypting all your files. That can take a while.

bp


On 8/20/2019 10:47 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

A bit.

Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 20, 2019, at 11:38 AM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:

Are you seeing hard drive activity?

-Original Message-
From: AF  On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2019 12:28 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT windows update

Whatever metric they use is not linear. I've watched it hang for a 
really
long time at some low percentage (like your 27%), then finish the 
last 70%

in the space of a minute.


bp



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Been on 27% for an hour.
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Re: [AFMUG] OT windows update

[James Howard]

It ran the other day on my PC.  Took about 2 hours on an i7.

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2019 12:24 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT windows update

Wonder how long I should wait?

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: [AFMUG] OT windows update

[Bill Prince]

Don't worry. It's just encrypting all your files. That can take a while.

bp


On 8/20/2019 10:47 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

A bit.

Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 20, 2019, at 11:38 AM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:

Are you seeing hard drive activity?

-Original Message-
From: AF  On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2019 12:28 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT windows update

Whatever metric they use is not linear. I've watched it hang for a really
long time at some low percentage (like your 27%), then finish the last 70%
in the space of a minute.


bp



On 8/20/2019 10:00 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
Been on 27% for an hour.
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Re: [AFMUG] OT windows update

[Ken Hohhof]

If you're seeing regular bursts of disk activity, let it run for 2-3 hours
before giving up.  I'm assuming it has already done the download and is
decompressing, checking, and installing the update(s).  All of which involve
lots of disk activity, probably interspersed with CPU and memory activity.
If it's just sitting there doing nothing, the update is probably stuck.

-Original Message-
From: AF  On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2019 12:47 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT windows update

A bit.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 20, 2019, at 11:38 AM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:
> 
> Are you seeing hard drive activity?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: AF  On Behalf Of Bill Prince
> Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2019 12:28 PM
> To: af@af.afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT windows update
> 
> Whatever metric they use is not linear. I've watched it hang for a 
> really long time at some low percentage (like your 27%), then finish 
> the last 70% in the space of a minute.
> 
> 
> bp
> 
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>> On 8/20/2019 10:00 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>> Been on 27% for an hour.
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [AFMUG] OT windows update

[castarritt .]

Sounds like your internet isn't working.  You should get on social media
and trash your ISP.

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Re: [AFMUG] OT windows update

[Chuck McCown]

A bit.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 20, 2019, at 11:38 AM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:
> 
> Are you seeing hard drive activity?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: AF  On Behalf Of Bill Prince
> Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2019 12:28 PM
> To: af@af.afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT windows update
> 
> Whatever metric they use is not linear. I've watched it hang for a really
> long time at some low percentage (like your 27%), then finish the last 70%
> in the space of a minute.
> 
> 
> bp
> 
> 
>> On 8/20/2019 10:00 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>> Been on 27% for an hour.
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [AFMUG] OT windows update

[Steve Jones]

if its the big feature update its pushing out, it does take a long time
sometimes, its a full os udate


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> Are you seeing hard drive activity?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AF  On Behalf Of Bill Prince
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> To: af@af.afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT windows update
>
> Whatever metric they use is not linear. I've watched it hang for a really
> long time at some low percentage (like your 27%), then finish the last 70%
> in the space of a minute.
>
>
> bp
> 
>
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Re: [AFMUG] OT windows update

[Bill Prince]

Whatever metric they use is not linear. I've watched it hang for a 
really long time at some low percentage (like your 27%), then finish the 
last 70% in the space of a minute.



bp


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Been on 27% for an hour.
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Re: [AFMUG] OT windows update

[Chuck McCown]

Wonder how long I should wait?

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: [AFMUG] OT windows update

[Ken Hohhof]

Obviously your Internet is slow.  Call your ISP and complain.

-Original Message-
From: AF  On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
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Subject: [AFMUG] OT windows update


Been on 27% for an hour.
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[AFMUG] OT windows update

[Chuck McCown]

Been on 27% for an hour.
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