Re: [AFMUG] Ericsson and Deutsche Telekom have developed a wireless 40 Gbps backhaul for 5G - TechSpot

[Stephen Patrick]

Interesting,
A click through from the above link to the original article :
https://www.ericsson.com/ne/en/press-releases/2019/1/deutsche-telekom-and-ericsson-achieve-fiber-like-results-with-wireless-backhaul
says:
"The round-trip latency performance of the link tested was less than 100
microseconds,"
hop distance of 1.4 kilometers in the millimeter wave (E-band) spectrum.
Technical setup included the use of Ericsson’s latest mobile transport
technology including Ericsson’s MINI-LINK 6352 microwave solution  and
Router 6000

The MINI-LINK 6352 has a 5.5Gbps capacity according to datasheet.
Some aggregation likely has been used for the demo.

Stephen
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On Mon, 14 Jan 2019 at 17:58, Mathew Howard  wrote:

> It's likely using most, if not all, of the 70/80ghz band to do that. I
> think the 10Gbps radios all use 2000mhz wide channels.
>
> On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 10:34 AM Adam Moffett  wrote:
>
>> .and is it spectrally efficient?  There are hundreds of mhz that
>> count as "5ghz".
>>
>>
>> On 1/14/2019 11:29 AM, Mathew Howard wrote:
>>
>> Could be a typo... maybe it was supposed to be 1ms. Or it's just stupidly
>> written... afterall, 0.001ms is less than 100ms. If "5G's goals" are less
>> than 100ms, than it meets that.
>>
>> 40Gbps doesn't seem particularly impressive to me anyway... that's been
>> possible for awhile with e-band radios. I guess if they're doing it with a
>> single radio, that something... but it doesn't say that they are.
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 8:28 AM Gino A. Villarini 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> 
>>> Must be a typo... maybe 100 us ?
>>>
>>> On 1/14/19, 10:13 AM, "AF on behalf of Chuck McCown" <
>>> af-boun...@af.afmug.com on behalf of ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
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>>> They send each packet 100 times and vote on the most likely values.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> > On Jan 14, 2019, at 6:15 AM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Maybe they meant 100 microseconds?
>>> >
>>> > -Original Message-
>>> > From: AF  On Behalf Of Robert
>>> > Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2019 11:01 PM
>>> > To: af@af.afmug.com
>>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ericsson and Deutsche Telekom have developed
>>> a wireless
>>> > 40 Gbps backhaul for 5G - TechSpot
>>> >
>>> > 1.8 miles with "less than 100ms" of latency?   Um
>>> U..   Is
>>> > that 99ms of extra latency so the data can be copied somewhere
>>> else for
>>> > monitoring?
>>> >
>>> >> On 1/13/19 4:07 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>>> >>
>>> https://www.techspot.com/news/78244-ericsson-deutsche-telekom-have-dev
>>> >> eloped-wireless-40-gbps.html
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Re: [AFMUG] Ericsson and Deutsche Telekom have developed a wireless 40 Gbps backhaul for 5G - TechSpot

[Mathew Howard]

It's likely using most, if not all, of the 70/80ghz band to do that. I
think the 10Gbps radios all use 2000mhz wide channels.

On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 10:34 AM Adam Moffett  wrote:

> .and is it spectrally efficient?  There are hundreds of mhz that count
> as "5ghz".
>
>
> On 1/14/2019 11:29 AM, Mathew Howard wrote:
>
> Could be a typo... maybe it was supposed to be 1ms. Or it's just stupidly
> written... afterall, 0.001ms is less than 100ms. If "5G's goals" are less
> than 100ms, than it meets that.
>
> 40Gbps doesn't seem particularly impressive to me anyway... that's been
> possible for awhile with e-band radios. I guess if they're doing it with a
> single radio, that something... but it doesn't say that they are.
>
> On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 8:28 AM Gino A. Villarini 
> wrote:
>
>> 
>>
>> 
>> Must be a typo... maybe 100 us ?
>>
>> On 1/14/19, 10:13 AM, "AF on behalf of Chuck McCown" <
>> af-boun...@af.afmug.com on behalf of ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>
>> They send each packet 100 times and vote on the most likely values.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> > On Jan 14, 2019, at 6:15 AM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>> >
>> > Maybe they meant 100 microseconds?
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: AF  On Behalf Of Robert
>> > Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2019 11:01 PM
>> > To: af@af.afmug.com
>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ericsson and Deutsche Telekom have developed a
>> wireless
>> > 40 Gbps backhaul for 5G - TechSpot
>> >
>> > 1.8 miles with "less than 100ms" of latency?   Um
>> U..   Is
>> > that 99ms of extra latency so the data can be copied somewhere else
>> for
>> > monitoring?
>> >
>> >> On 1/13/19 4:07 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>> >>
>> https://www.techspot.com/news/78244-ericsson-deutsche-telekom-have-dev
>> >> eloped-wireless-40-gbps.html
>> >>
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Re: [AFMUG] Ericsson and Deutsche Telekom have developed a wireless 40 Gbps backhaul for 5G - TechSpot

[Adam Moffett]

.and is it spectrally efficient?  There are hundreds of mhz that 
count as "5ghz".



On 1/14/2019 11:29 AM, Mathew Howard wrote:
Could be a typo... maybe it was supposed to be 1ms. Or it's just 
stupidly written... afterall, 0.001ms is less than 100ms. If "5G's 
goals" are less than 100ms, than it meets that.


40Gbps doesn't seem particularly impressive to me anyway... that's 
been possible for awhile with e-band radios. I guess if they're doing 
it with a single radio, that something... but it doesn't say that they 
are.


On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 8:28 AM Gino A. Villarini > wrote:


   



Must be a typo... maybe 100 us ?

On 1/14/19, 10:13 AM, "AF on behalf of Chuck McCown"
mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> on
behalf of ch...@wbmfg.com > wrote:

    They send each packet 100 times and vote on the most likely
values.

    Sent from my iPhone

    > On Jan 14, 2019, at 6:15 AM, Ken Hohhof mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:
    >
    > Maybe they meant 100 microseconds?
    >
    > -Original Message-
    > From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of Robert
    > Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2019 11:01 PM
    > To: af@af.afmug.com 
    > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ericsson and Deutsche Telekom have
developed a wireless
    > 40 Gbps backhaul for 5G - TechSpot
    >
    > 1.8 miles with "less than 100ms" of latency? Um  
U..   Is
    > that 99ms of extra latency so the data can be copied
somewhere else for
    > monitoring?
    >
    >> On 1/13/19 4:07 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
    >>
https://www.techspot.com/news/78244-ericsson-deutsche-telekom-have-dev
    >> eloped-wireless-40-gbps.html
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Re: [AFMUG] Ericsson and Deutsche Telekom have developed a wireless 40 Gbps backhaul for 5G - TechSpot

[Mathew Howard]

Could be a typo... maybe it was supposed to be 1ms. Or it's just stupidly
written... afterall, 0.001ms is less than 100ms. If "5G's goals" are less
than 100ms, than it meets that.

40Gbps doesn't seem particularly impressive to me anyway... that's been
possible for awhile with e-band radios. I guess if they're doing it with a
single radio, that something... but it doesn't say that they are.

On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 8:28 AM Gino A. Villarini  wrote:

> 
>
> 
>
> Must be a typo... maybe 100 us ?
>
> On 1/14/19, 10:13 AM, "AF on behalf of Chuck McCown" <
> af-boun...@af.afmug.com on behalf of ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>
> They send each packet 100 times and vote on the most likely values.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jan 14, 2019, at 6:15 AM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:
> >
> > Maybe they meant 100 microseconds?
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: AF  On Behalf Of Robert
> > Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2019 11:01 PM
> > To: af@af.afmug.com
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ericsson and Deutsche Telekom have developed a
> wireless
> > 40 Gbps backhaul for 5G - TechSpot
> >
> > 1.8 miles with "less than 100ms" of latency?   Um
> U..   Is
> > that 99ms of extra latency so the data can be copied somewhere else
> for
> > monitoring?
> >
> >> On 1/13/19 4:07 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
> >>
> https://www.techspot.com/news/78244-ericsson-deutsche-telekom-have-dev
> >> eloped-wireless-40-gbps.html
> >>
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Re: [AFMUG] Ericsson and Deutsche Telekom have developed a wireless 40 Gbps backhaul for 5G - TechSpot

[Gino A. Villarini]

  
  


  
Must be a typo... maybe 100 us ?

On 1/14/19, 10:13 AM, "AF on behalf of Chuck McCown"  wrote:

    They send each packet 100 times and vote on the most likely values.
    
    Sent from my iPhone
    
    > On Jan 14, 2019, at 6:15 AM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:
    > 
    > Maybe they meant 100 microseconds?
    > 
    > -Original Message-
    > From: AF  On Behalf Of Robert
    > Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2019 11:01 PM
    > To: af@af.afmug.com
    > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ericsson and Deutsche Telekom have developed a wireless
    > 40 Gbps backhaul for 5G - TechSpot
    > 
    > 1.8 miles with "less than 100ms" of latency?   Um   U..   Is 
    > that 99ms of extra latency so the data can be copied somewhere else for
    > monitoring?
    > 
    >> On 1/13/19 4:07 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
    >> https://www.techspot.com/news/78244-ericsson-deutsche-telekom-have-dev
    >> eloped-wireless-40-gbps.html
    >> 
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Re: [AFMUG] Ericsson and Deutsche Telekom have developed a wireless 40 Gbps backhaul for 5G - TechSpot

[Chuck McCown]

They send each packet 100 times and vote on the most likely values.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 14, 2019, at 6:15 AM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:
> 
> Maybe they meant 100 microseconds?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: AF  On Behalf Of Robert
> Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2019 11:01 PM
> To: af@af.afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ericsson and Deutsche Telekom have developed a wireless
> 40 Gbps backhaul for 5G - TechSpot
> 
> 1.8 miles with "less than 100ms" of latency?   Um   U..   Is 
> that 99ms of extra latency so the data can be copied somewhere else for
> monitoring?
> 
>> On 1/13/19 4:07 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>> https://www.techspot.com/news/78244-ericsson-deutsche-telekom-have-dev
>> eloped-wireless-40-gbps.html
>> 
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Re: [AFMUG] Ericsson and Deutsche Telekom have developed a wireless 40 Gbps backhaul for 5G - TechSpot

[Ken Hohhof]

Maybe they meant 100 microseconds?

-Original Message-
From: AF  On Behalf Of Robert
Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2019 11:01 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ericsson and Deutsche Telekom have developed a wireless
40 Gbps backhaul for 5G - TechSpot

1.8 miles with "less than 100ms" of latency?   Um   U..   Is 
that 99ms of extra latency so the data can be copied somewhere else for
monitoring?

On 1/13/19 4:07 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
> https://www.techspot.com/news/78244-ericsson-deutsche-telekom-have-dev
> eloped-wireless-40-gbps.html
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Re: [AFMUG] Ericsson and Deutsche Telekom have developed a wireless 40 Gbps backhaul for 5G - TechSpot

[Robert]

1.8 miles with "less than 100ms" of latency?   Um   U..   Is 
that 99ms of extra latency so the data can be copied somewhere else for 
monitoring?


On 1/13/19 4:07 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:

https://www.techspot.com/news/78244-ericsson-deutsche-telekom-have-developed-wireless-40-gbps.html



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