Re: [AFMUG] OT Massachusettes Gas situation

[Chuck McCown]

Yeah, now that I think of it, they all do.  

From: Chris Fabien 
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2018 8:42 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Massachusettes Gas situation

Most appliances would have a thermocouple to disable the main valve in event of 
loss of pilot. I've seen over-pressure mentioned in several news articles. Will 
be interesting to read the final report if it's ever made public. 

On Fri, Sep 14, 2018, 10:55 AM  wrote:

  I think it is more plausible that the system lost pressure, pilot lights 
  went out and then pressure came back.

  -Original Message- 
  From: Robert
  Sent: Friday, September 14, 2018 6:12 AM
  To: af@af.afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Massachusettes Gas situation

  They are mentioning a problem with a high-pressure main...

  On 9/14/18 4:04 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
  > I don't know. Several years ago AT put a CNG field turbine generator 
  > downtown. It had a compressor in front of it to do the compression.  The 
  > first time it came on and ran long enough to empty the CNG tank the 
  > compressor kicked on. When it kicked on the compressor sucked all the gas 
  > out of the mains in the entire downtown area.
  >
  > Maybe something similar happened. Seems unlikely though with the large 
  > area.
  >
  >
  >
  > On Thu, Sep 13, 2018, 8:35 PM Chuck McCown  > wrote:
  >
  > Whadya wanna bet it was a huge over-pressure surge situation.
  > At lease we will will probably never blow up someone’s house.
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Massachusettes Gas situation

[info]

I knew it!  You have a list!


On 09/16/2018 08:44 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

I keep track...

-Original Message- From: Robert
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2018 9:33 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Massachusettes Gas situation

I hate to correct Chuck, because 9 times out of 10 I am wrong, so I just
don't point those out...

On 9/16/18 8:17 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

Yeah, now that I think of it, they all do.
*From:* Chris Fabien
*Sent:* Sunday, September 16, 2018 8:42 AM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Massachusettes Gas situation
Most appliances would have a thermocouple to disable the main valve 
in event of loss of pilot. I've seen over-pressure mentioned in 
several news articles. Will be interesting to read the final report 
if it's ever made public.

On Fri, Sep 14, 2018, 10:55 AM  wrote:

    I think it is more plausible that the system lost pressure, pilot
    lights
    went out and then pressure came back.

    -Original Message-
    From: Robert
    Sent: Friday, September 14, 2018 6:12 AM
    To: af@af.afmug.com
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Massachusettes Gas situation

    They are mentioning a problem with a high-pressure main...

    On 9/14/18 4:04 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
 > I don't know. Several years ago AT put a CNG field turbine
    generator
 > downtown. It had a compressor in front of it to do the
    compression.  The
 > first time it came on and ran long enough to empty the CNG 
tank the

 > compressor kicked on. When it kicked on the compressor sucked all
    the gas
 > out of the mains in the entire downtown area.
 >
 > Maybe something similar happened. Seems unlikely though with the
    large
 > area.
 >
 >
 >
 > On Thu, Sep 13, 2018, 8:35 PM Chuck McCown  > wrote:
 >
 > Whadya wanna bet it was a huge over-pressure surge situation.
 > At lease we will will probably never blow up someone’s house.
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Massachusettes Gas situation

[Chris Fabien]

Most appliances would have a thermocouple to disable the main valve in
event of loss of pilot. I've seen over-pressure mentioned in several news
articles. Will be interesting to read the final report if it's ever made
public.

On Fri, Sep 14, 2018, 10:55 AM  wrote:

> I think it is more plausible that the system lost pressure, pilot lights
> went out and then pressure came back.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Robert
> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2018 6:12 AM
> To: af@af.afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Massachusettes Gas situation
>
> They are mentioning a problem with a high-pressure main...
>
> On 9/14/18 4:04 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
> > I don't know. Several years ago AT put a CNG field turbine generator
> > downtown. It had a compressor in front of it to do the compression.  The
> > first time it came on and ran long enough to empty the CNG tank the
> > compressor kicked on. When it kicked on the compressor sucked all the
> gas
> > out of the mains in the entire downtown area.
> >
> > Maybe something similar happened. Seems unlikely though with the large
> > area.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 13, 2018, 8:35 PM Chuck McCown  > > wrote:
> >
> > Whadya wanna bet it was a huge over-pressure surge situation.
> > At lease we will will probably never blow up someone’s house.
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Massachusettes Gas situation

[Robert]

I hate to correct Chuck, because 9 times out of 10 I am wrong, so I just 
don't point those out...


On 9/16/18 8:17 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

Yeah, now that I think of it, they all do.
*From:* Chris Fabien
*Sent:* Sunday, September 16, 2018 8:42 AM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Massachusettes Gas situation
Most appliances would have a thermocouple to disable the main valve in 
event of loss of pilot. I've seen over-pressure mentioned in several 
news articles. Will be interesting to read the final report if it's ever 
made public.

On Fri, Sep 14, 2018, 10:55 AM  wrote:

I think it is more plausible that the system lost pressure, pilot
lights
went out and then pressure came back.

-Original Message-
From: Robert
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2018 6:12 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Massachusettes Gas situation

They are mentioning a problem with a high-pressure main...

On 9/14/18 4:04 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
 > I don't know. Several years ago AT put a CNG field turbine
generator
 > downtown. It had a compressor in front of it to do the
compression.  The
 > first time it came on and ran long enough to empty the CNG tank the
 > compressor kicked on. When it kicked on the compressor sucked all
the gas
 > out of the mains in the entire downtown area.
 >
 > Maybe something similar happened. Seems unlikely though with the
large
 > area.
 >
 >
 >
 > On Thu, Sep 13, 2018, 8:35 PM Chuck McCown  > wrote:
 >
 > Whadya wanna bet it was a huge over-pressure surge situation.
 > At lease we will will probably never blow up someone’s house.
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Massachusettes Gas situation

[Chuck McCown]

I keep track...

-Original Message- 
From: Robert

Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2018 9:33 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Massachusettes Gas situation

I hate to correct Chuck, because 9 times out of 10 I am wrong, so I just
don't point those out...

On 9/16/18 8:17 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

Yeah, now that I think of it, they all do.
*From:* Chris Fabien
*Sent:* Sunday, September 16, 2018 8:42 AM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Massachusettes Gas situation
Most appliances would have a thermocouple to disable the main valve in 
event of loss of pilot. I've seen over-pressure mentioned in several news 
articles. Will be interesting to read the final report if it's ever made 
public.

On Fri, Sep 14, 2018, 10:55 AM  wrote:

I think it is more plausible that the system lost pressure, pilot
lights
went out and then pressure came back.

-Original Message-
From: Robert
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2018 6:12 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Massachusettes Gas situation

They are mentioning a problem with a high-pressure main...

On 9/14/18 4:04 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
 > I don't know. Several years ago AT put a CNG field turbine
generator
 > downtown. It had a compressor in front of it to do the
compression.  The
 > first time it came on and ran long enough to empty the CNG tank the
 > compressor kicked on. When it kicked on the compressor sucked all
the gas
 > out of the mains in the entire downtown area.
 >
 > Maybe something similar happened. Seems unlikely though with the
large
 > area.
 >
 >
 >
 > On Thu, Sep 13, 2018, 8:35 PM Chuck McCown  > wrote:
 >
 > Whadya wanna bet it was a huge over-pressure surge situation.
 > At lease we will will probably never blow up someone’s house.
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Massachusettes Gas situation

[Chuck McCown]

Yep, my wife has 4 points.

-Original Message- 
From: i...@avantwireless.com

Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2018 10:48 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Massachusettes Gas situation

I knew it!  You have a list!


On 09/16/2018 08:44 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

I keep track...

-Original Message- From: Robert
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2018 9:33 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Massachusettes Gas situation

I hate to correct Chuck, because 9 times out of 10 I am wrong, so I just
don't point those out...

On 9/16/18 8:17 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

Yeah, now that I think of it, they all do.
*From:* Chris Fabien
*Sent:* Sunday, September 16, 2018 8:42 AM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Massachusettes Gas situation
Most appliances would have a thermocouple to disable the main valve in 
event of loss of pilot. I've seen over-pressure mentioned in several news 
articles. Will be interesting to read the final report if it's ever made 
public.

On Fri, Sep 14, 2018, 10:55 AM  wrote:

I think it is more plausible that the system lost pressure, pilot
lights
went out and then pressure came back.

-Original Message-
From: Robert
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2018 6:12 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Massachusettes Gas situation

They are mentioning a problem with a high-pressure main...

On 9/14/18 4:04 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
 > I don't know. Several years ago AT put a CNG field turbine
generator
 > downtown. It had a compressor in front of it to do the
compression.  The
 > first time it came on and ran long enough to empty the CNG tank 
the

 > compressor kicked on. When it kicked on the compressor sucked all
the gas
 > out of the mains in the entire downtown area.
 >
 > Maybe something similar happened. Seems unlikely though with the
large
 > area.
 >
 >
 >
 > On Thu, Sep 13, 2018, 8:35 PM Chuck McCown  > wrote:
 >
 > Whadya wanna bet it was a huge over-pressure surge situation.
 > At lease we will will probably never blow up someone’s house.
 > --
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Re: [AFMUG] Wire pulling lube

[Tim Withrow via AF]

You should be able to source pulling lube from an electrical supplier. 20+ 
bucks a gallon gets expensive fast with the ideal lube,if a small job it may be 
all you need, but this seems not the case.




On Sunday, September 16, 2018 Jason McKemie  wrote:

I have about 350' of 2" conduit that already has a .75" diameter cable 
installed, to which I need to add a flat drop cable. I've been trying to get a 
fiberglass pull rod to go through, but am getting hung up around 230' going 
from either end, probably due to friction with the other cable. I'm considering 
using something like Ideal cable lube to get the extra distance, does this 
stuff thicken up and turn to glue after a while? Anything else I should be 
trying? 

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Re: [AFMUG] OT Massachusettes Gas situation

[Jeremy]

Just out of curiosity, are these "pressure sensors" connected to the
Internet?
https://www.ksl.com/article/46391781/official-pressure-sensors-focus-of-gas-explosions-probe

On Sun, Sep 16, 2018 at 10:55 AM Chuck McCown  wrote:

> Yep, my wife has 4 points.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: i...@avantwireless.com
> Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2018 10:48 AM
> To: af@af.afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Massachusettes Gas situation
>
> I knew it!  You have a list!
>
>
> On 09/16/2018 08:44 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
> > I keep track...
> >
> > -Original Message- From: Robert
> > Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2018 9:33 AM
> > To: af@af.afmug.com
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Massachusettes Gas situation
> >
> > I hate to correct Chuck, because 9 times out of 10 I am wrong, so I just
> > don't point those out...
> >
> > On 9/16/18 8:17 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
> >> Yeah, now that I think of it, they all do.
> >> *From:* Chris Fabien
> >> *Sent:* Sunday, September 16, 2018 8:42 AM
> >> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Massachusettes Gas situation
> >> Most appliances would have a thermocouple to disable the main valve in
> >> event of loss of pilot. I've seen over-pressure mentioned in several
> news
> >> articles. Will be interesting to read the final report if it's ever
> made
> >> public.
> >> On Fri, Sep 14, 2018, 10:55 AM  wrote:
> >>
> >> I think it is more plausible that the system lost pressure, pilot
> >> lights
> >> went out and then pressure came back.
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Robert
> >> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2018 6:12 AM
> >> To: af@af.afmug.com
> >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Massachusettes Gas situation
> >>
> >> They are mentioning a problem with a high-pressure main...
> >>
> >> On 9/14/18 4:04 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
> >>  > I don't know. Several years ago AT put a CNG field turbine
> >> generator
> >>  > downtown. It had a compressor in front of it to do the
> >> compression.  The
> >>  > first time it came on and ran long enough to empty the CNG tank
> >> the
> >>  > compressor kicked on. When it kicked on the compressor sucked all
> >> the gas
> >>  > out of the mains in the entire downtown area.
> >>  >
> >>  > Maybe something similar happened. Seems unlikely though with the
> >> large
> >>  > area.
> >>  >
> >>  >
> >>  >
> >>  > On Thu, Sep 13, 2018, 8:35 PM Chuck McCown  >>  > > wrote:
> >>  >
> >>  > Whadya wanna bet it was a huge over-pressure surge situation.
> >>  > At lease we will will probably never blow up someone’s house.
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Re: [AFMUG] Wire pulling lube

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I would second the try blowing and vacuum a small pull string then pull 
through some mule tape. The problem with the rod is it tends to kink 
after a long distance and can get tangled in the current cable. A pull 
string attached to a plastic bag tends to ride on top. Also give the 
existing cable a little tug from each end make sure it isn't slacked up 
in the middle from being pushed with the rod.



On 9/16/2018 8:37 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
Polywater was the best we ever found. I also would try that and 
blowing or vacuuming instead of a rod.


On Sun, Sep 16, 2018, 8:32 PM Tim Withrow via AF > wrote:



You should be able to source pulling lube from an electrical
supplier. 20+ bucks a gallon gets expensive fast with the ideal
lube,if a small job it may be all you need, but this seems not the
case.


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I have about 350' of 2" conduit that already has a .75" diameter
cable installed, to which I need to add a flat drop cable. I've
been trying to get a fiberglass pull rod to go through, but am
getting hung up around 230' going from either end, probably due to
friction with the other cable. I'm considering using something
like Ideal cable lube to get the extra distance, does this stuff
thicken up and turn to glue after a while? Anything else I should
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Massachusettes Gas situation

[Jeremy]

For the first time in my life, I am the very first to float a conspiracy
theory!  (I usually think that they are all crap).  You really never know
though IOT FTW.
Stuxnet was a control/sensor exploit.  The attack on Ukraine's electrical
grid was an exploit in Siemens controllers that is well documented.  Let's
hope that the nations electrical and natural gas systems are not online.
However, a quick Google search tells me that they are probably all online,
and managed via a Windows 95 computer by some poor sap that doesn't know
what 'exploit' means.

On Sun, Sep 16, 2018 at 5:28 PM Jeremy  wrote:

> Just out of curiosity, are these "pressure sensors" connected to the
> Internet?
>
> https://www.ksl.com/article/46391781/official-pressure-sensors-focus-of-gas-explosions-probe
>
> On Sun, Sep 16, 2018 at 10:55 AM Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
>> Yep, my wife has 4 points.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: i...@avantwireless.com
>> Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2018 10:48 AM
>> To: af@af.afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Massachusettes Gas situation
>>
>> I knew it!  You have a list!
>>
>>
>> On 09/16/2018 08:44 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>> > I keep track...
>> >
>> > -Original Message- From: Robert
>> > Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2018 9:33 AM
>> > To: af@af.afmug.com
>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Massachusettes Gas situation
>> >
>> > I hate to correct Chuck, because 9 times out of 10 I am wrong, so I just
>> > don't point those out...
>> >
>> > On 9/16/18 8:17 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>> >> Yeah, now that I think of it, they all do.
>> >> *From:* Chris Fabien
>> >> *Sent:* Sunday, September 16, 2018 8:42 AM
>> >> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Massachusettes Gas situation
>> >> Most appliances would have a thermocouple to disable the main valve in
>> >> event of loss of pilot. I've seen over-pressure mentioned in several
>> news
>> >> articles. Will be interesting to read the final report if it's ever
>> made
>> >> public.
>> >> On Fri, Sep 14, 2018, 10:55 AM  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I think it is more plausible that the system lost pressure, pilot
>> >> lights
>> >> went out and then pressure came back.
>> >>
>> >> -Original Message-
>> >> From: Robert
>> >> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2018 6:12 AM
>> >> To: af@af.afmug.com
>> >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Massachusettes Gas situation
>> >>
>> >> They are mentioning a problem with a high-pressure main...
>> >>
>> >> On 9/14/18 4:04 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
>> >>  > I don't know. Several years ago AT put a CNG field turbine
>> >> generator
>> >>  > downtown. It had a compressor in front of it to do the
>> >> compression.  The
>> >>  > first time it came on and ran long enough to empty the CNG tank
>> >> the
>> >>  > compressor kicked on. When it kicked on the compressor sucked
>> all
>> >> the gas
>> >>  > out of the mains in the entire downtown area.
>> >>  >
>> >>  > Maybe something similar happened. Seems unlikely though with the
>> >> large
>> >>  > area.
>> >>  >
>> >>  >
>> >>  >
>> >>  > On Thu, Sep 13, 2018, 8:35 PM Chuck McCown > >>  > > wrote:
>> >>  >
>> >>  > Whadya wanna bet it was a huge over-pressure surge
>> situation.
>> >>  > At lease we will will probably never blow up someone’s
>> house.
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Re: [AFMUG] Wire pulling lube

[Lewis Bergman]

Polywater was the best we ever found. I also would try that and blowing or
vacuuming instead of a rod.

On Sun, Sep 16, 2018, 8:32 PM Tim Withrow via AF  wrote:

>
> You should be able to source pulling lube from an electrical supplier. 20+
> bucks a gallon gets expensive fast with the ideal lube,if a small job it
> may be all you need, but this seems not the case.
> --
> On Sunday, September 16, 2018 Jason McKemie  wrote:
> I have about 350' of 2" conduit that already has a .75" diameter cable
> installed, to which I need to add a flat drop cable. I've been trying to
> get a fiberglass pull rod to go through, but am getting hung up around 230'
> going from either end, probably due to friction with the other cable. I'm
> considering using something like Ideal cable lube to get the extra
> distance, does this stuff thicken up and turn to glue after a while?
> Anything else I should be trying?
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Re: [AFMUG] Wire pulling lube

[Tim Withrow via AF]

You should be able to spice oukking lube from an electrical supplier. 20+ bucks 
a gallon gets expensive fast with the ideal lube,if a small job it may be all 
you need, but this seems not the case.



On Sunday, September 16, 2018 Jason McKemie  wrote:

I have about 350' of 2" conduit that already has a .75" diameter cable 
installed, to which I need to add a flat drop cable. I've been trying to get a 
fiberglass pull rod to go through, but am getting hung up around 230' going 
from either end, probably due to friction with the other cable. I'm considering 
using something like Ideal cable lube to get the extra distance, does this 
stuff thicken up and turn to glue after a while? Anything else I should be 
trying? 

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Re: [AFMUG] AF subscription notification

[Steve Jones]

if sni...@ubnt.com signs up, let us know
tell ken im sorry

On Sat, Sep 15, 2018 at 10:45 AM Jason McKemie <
j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:

> Yes, he is missed.
>
> On Saturday, September 15, 2018,  wrote:
>
>> Harass, welcome.
>> I hope for the day to see Ken Hohof show up.
>>
>> *From:* Mathew Howard
>> *Sent:* Friday, September 14, 2018 5:58 PM
>> *To:* AFMUG
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AF subscription notification
>>
>> Well, it would only be new lurkers that would get outed, I assume... but
>> yeah, if all we're seeing is an email address, that can be pretty anonymous
>> anyway.
>>
>> I'm not sure what good it would really do us though...  other than give
>> us an opportunity to harass new people.
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 4:11 PM  wrote:
>>
>>> Probably best to not out the lurkers.  There are about 500 list members
>>> but only about 10% post.
>>>
>>> *From:* Mathew Howard
>>> *Sent:* Friday, September 14, 2018 3:03 PM
>>> *To:* AFMUG
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AF subscription notification
>>>
>>> I assume most of the subscribers to this list never actually post
>>> anything. It might be kind of interesting to see who's watching us...
>>>
>>> I imagine there are some people that wouldn't like it, but if they
>>> aren't going to every post anything anyway, do we care?
>>>
>>> On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 3:52 PM David Coudron <
>>> david.coud...@advantenon.com> wrote:
>>>
 I think enough information is shared feely in this group to warrant
 folks being identified as recipients of the information.   If I were
 signing up, I don’t think it would be unreasonable to be identified as
 being a part of the list given the value of the discussions on the list.



 Regards,



 David Coudron

 *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Adam Moffett
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 *To:* af@af.afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AF subscription notification



 A manufacturer rep might prefer to quietly lurk and observeor a
 government rep.

 Nobody is entitled to privacy in a public forum, but I'm sure some
 would prefer it.

 -Adam

 On 9/14/2018 1:53 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

 xx...@.xxx has been successfully subscribed to AF.

 I am thinking of posting this when new people join.

 Or do new list subscribers deserve to remain incognito until they out
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