Re: [AFMUG] OT..Marlon Schaefer .. pioneer WISP

[David Milholen]

Good History..

Glad I was around since those days



On 8/13/2017 4:51 PM, Jeff Broadwick - Lists wrote:
Michael (Bullit) lied again and again about Part 15 being non-profit 
and some other things.  We needed a real trade group.  Rick, Marlon, 
Scriv, Matt, Tom, Bob, (and I'm sure I'm forgetting a couple) started 
working on Wispa.  It's amazing how far we've come!


I have mixed feelings about Mike Anderson...yes, he lied, but he did 
get all of us together at first through the Wispcons. He made the 
first contacts with the FCC.  Can't minimize those things.


Jeff Broadwick
ConVergence Technologies, Inc.
312-205-2519 Office
574-220-7826 Cell
jbroadw...@converge-tech.com 

On Aug 13, 2017, at 3:37 PM, > > 
wrote:


Didn’t WISPA originally start with a group of part-15 members that 
were not happy with part-15?
One of the WISPA guys at a booth in a trade show in Las Vegas told me 
the story but I forgot it.

This had to be about maybe 2004?
I remember he was pissed because Michael never gave him that copper 
part-15 medallion.
I remember a ton of emails complaining that part-15 was not actually 
a non profit etc etc.

*From:* Colin Stanners
*Sent:* Sunday, August 13, 2017 1:26 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT..Marlon Schaefer .. pioneer WISP
I remember that name from the part-15.org  / 
Micheal Anderson days how long has it been, around 10 years 
already? Is Marlon still in the WISP business?
On Aug 13, 2017 6:51 AM, "Jaime Solorza"  
wrote:


We had dinner with Marlon and Melissa Schaefer at La Posta in
Mesilla, NM yesterday evening.  They brought their daughter to
get settle in at NMSU.  It was nice to touch base with him and
get news on old friends from early wireless days.  They have a
cool 35 ft mobile home they driving to PHX to visit friends and
then Vegas for some R  Yes they loved the real Mexican food ,
some Tecate and took some Hatch chile.  Mi casa es su casa...

Jaime Solorza



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Re: [AFMUG] OT..Marlon Schaefer .. pioneer WISP

[Jaime Solorza]

I attended that WISPcon at American center in 2004 for a few hours during
layover to Miami and then Santa Cruz , Bolivia...met Wu, Mike and the MT
Latvia guys...I think Cooter was there...

Jaime Solorza

On Aug 13, 2017 4:14 PM, "Jaime Solorza"  wrote:

Marlon is doing well ...35000 square mile coverage, has a lift rig, and in
negotiations with some Co-ops to offer service through them...has a side
business that kids used to pay for college making and selling sausage.  Has
about 20 thousand emails unanswered!!  Still has contact with Bob Modeshal,
Nusrat from Shireen , Mike Bronson son from WLANparts I think, Larsen and
few others.. really busy...bootstrapped his way up using pre-802 gear since
1995.  Made shields for him Omnis from muffler to block interference
fromWestern Multiplex Tsunami .  He said I got him out of copier business
and into wireless...the 1990s are a fog to me.. cough cough.. he might
swing by to visit Kunze after Vegas outing.  Had I known he was coming
down, I would have shown him some good places to eathe was here years
ago doing some work for a WISP because I was too busy in Austin and
Laredo...that WISP still going strong...

Jaime Solorza

On Aug 13, 2017 3:51 PM, "Jeff Broadwick - Lists"  wrote:

> Michael (Bullit) lied again and again about Part 15 being non-profit and
> some other things.  We needed a real trade group.  Rick, Marlon, Scriv,
> Matt, Tom, Bob, (and I'm sure I'm forgetting a couple) started working on
> Wispa.  It's amazing how far we've come!
>
> I have mixed feelings about Mike Anderson...yes, he lied, but he did get
> all of us together at first through the Wispcons. He made the first
> contacts with the FCC.  Can't minimize those things.
>
> Jeff Broadwick
> ConVergence Technologies, Inc.
> 312-205-2519 <(312)%20205-2519> Office
> 574-220-7826 <(574)%20220-7826> Cell
> jbroadw...@converge-tech.com
>
> On Aug 13, 2017, at 3:37 PM,   wrote:
>
> Didn’t WISPA originally start with a group of part-15 members that were
> not happy with part-15?
>
> One of the WISPA guys at a booth in a trade show in Las Vegas told me the
> story but I forgot it.
> This had to be about maybe 2004?
> I remember he was pissed because Michael never gave him that copper
> part-15 medallion.
>
> I remember a ton of emails complaining that part-15 was not actually a non
> profit etc etc.
>
> *From:* Colin Stanners
> *Sent:* Sunday, August 13, 2017 1:26 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT..Marlon Schaefer .. pioneer WISP
>
> I remember that name from the part-15.org / Micheal Anderson days how
> long has it been, around 10 years already? Is Marlon still in the WISP
> business?
>
> On Aug 13, 2017 6:51 AM, "Jaime Solorza" 
> wrote:
>
> We had dinner with Marlon and Melissa Schaefer at La Posta in Mesilla, NM
> yesterday evening.  They brought their daughter to get settle in at NMSU.
> It was nice to touch base with him and get news on old friends from early
> wireless days.  They have a cool 35 ft mobile home they driving to PHX to
> visit friends and then Vegas for some R  Yes they loved the real Mexican
> food , some Tecate and took some Hatch chile.  Mi casa es su casa...
>
> Jaime Solorza
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT..Marlon Schaefer .. pioneer WISP

[Jaime Solorza]

Marlon is doing well ...35000 square mile coverage, has a lift rig, and in
negotiations with some Co-ops to offer service through them...has a side
business that kids used to pay for college making and selling sausage.  Has
about 20 thousand emails unanswered!!  Still has contact with Bob Modeshal,
Nusrat from Shireen , Mike Bronson son from WLANparts I think, Larsen and
few others.. really busy...bootstrapped his way up using pre-802 gear since
1995.  Made shields for him Omnis from muffler to block interference
fromWestern Multiplex Tsunami .  He said I got him out of copier business
and into wireless...the 1990s are a fog to me.. cough cough.. he might
swing by to visit Kunze after Vegas outing.  Had I known he was coming
down, I would have shown him some good places to eathe was here years
ago doing some work for a WISP because I was too busy in Austin and
Laredo...that WISP still going strong...

Jaime Solorza

On Aug 13, 2017 3:51 PM, "Jeff Broadwick - Lists"  wrote:

> Michael (Bullit) lied again and again about Part 15 being non-profit and
> some other things.  We needed a real trade group.  Rick, Marlon, Scriv,
> Matt, Tom, Bob, (and I'm sure I'm forgetting a couple) started working on
> Wispa.  It's amazing how far we've come!
>
> I have mixed feelings about Mike Anderson...yes, he lied, but he did get
> all of us together at first through the Wispcons. He made the first
> contacts with the FCC.  Can't minimize those things.
>
> Jeff Broadwick
> ConVergence Technologies, Inc.
> 312-205-2519 <(312)%20205-2519> Office
> 574-220-7826 <(574)%20220-7826> Cell
> jbroadw...@converge-tech.com
>
> On Aug 13, 2017, at 3:37 PM,   wrote:
>
> Didn’t WISPA originally start with a group of part-15 members that were
> not happy with part-15?
>
> One of the WISPA guys at a booth in a trade show in Las Vegas told me the
> story but I forgot it.
> This had to be about maybe 2004?
> I remember he was pissed because Michael never gave him that copper
> part-15 medallion.
>
> I remember a ton of emails complaining that part-15 was not actually a non
> profit etc etc.
>
> *From:* Colin Stanners
> *Sent:* Sunday, August 13, 2017 1:26 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT..Marlon Schaefer .. pioneer WISP
>
> I remember that name from the part-15.org / Micheal Anderson days how
> long has it been, around 10 years already? Is Marlon still in the WISP
> business?
>
> On Aug 13, 2017 6:51 AM, "Jaime Solorza" 
> wrote:
>
> We had dinner with Marlon and Melissa Schaefer at La Posta in Mesilla, NM
> yesterday evening.  They brought their daughter to get settle in at NMSU.
> It was nice to touch base with him and get news on old friends from early
> wireless days.  They have a cool 35 ft mobile home they driving to PHX to
> visit friends and then Vegas for some R  Yes they loved the real Mexican
> food , some Tecate and took some Hatch chile.  Mi casa es su casa...
>
> Jaime Solorza
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT..Marlon Schaefer .. pioneer WISP

[chuck]

And the FCC OET really did listen to Mike.  Our little industry got on the map 
with them through Mikes effort’s.  I remember he even had an FCC commissioner 
come to one of the Wispcon meetings.  

From: Jeff Broadwick - Lists 
Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2017 3:51 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT..Marlon Schaefer .. pioneer WISP

Michael (Bullit) lied again and again about Part 15 being non-profit and some 
other things.  We needed a real trade group.  Rick, Marlon, Scriv, Matt, Tom, 
Bob, (and I'm sure I'm forgetting a couple) started working on Wispa.  It's 
amazing how far we've come!

I have mixed feelings about Mike Anderson...yes, he lied, but he did get all of 
us together at first through the Wispcons. He made the first contacts with the 
FCC.  Can't minimize those things.

Jeff Broadwick 
ConVergence Technologies, Inc.
312-205-2519 Office
574-220-7826 Cell
jbroadw...@converge-tech.com

On Aug 13, 2017, at 3:37 PM,   wrote:


  Didn’t WISPA originally start with a group of part-15 members that were not 
happy with part-15?

  One of the WISPA guys at a booth in a trade show in Las Vegas told me the 
story but I forgot it.  
  This had to be about maybe 2004?  
  I remember he was pissed because Michael never gave him that copper part-15 
medallion.  

  I remember a ton of emails complaining that part-15 was not actually a non 
profit etc etc.  

  From: Colin Stanners 
  Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2017 1:26 PM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT..Marlon Schaefer .. pioneer WISP

  I remember that name from the part-15.org / Micheal Anderson days how 
long has it been, around 10 years already? Is Marlon still in the WISP business?


  On Aug 13, 2017 6:51 AM, "Jaime Solorza"  wrote:

We had dinner with Marlon and Melissa Schaefer at La Posta in Mesilla, NM 
yesterday evening.  They brought their daughter to get settle in at NMSU.  It 
was nice to touch base with him and get news on old friends from early wireless 
days.  They have a cool 35 ft mobile home they driving to PHX to visit friends 
and then Vegas for some R  Yes they loved the real Mexican food , some 
Tecate and took some Hatch chile.  Mi casa es su casa...


Jaime Solorza

Re: [AFMUG] OT..Marlon Schaefer .. pioneer WISP

[Jeff Broadwick - Lists]

Michael (Bullit) lied again and again about Part 15 being non-profit and some 
other things.  We needed a real trade group.  Rick, Marlon, Scriv, Matt, Tom, 
Bob, (and I'm sure I'm forgetting a couple) started working on Wispa.  It's 
amazing how far we've come!

I have mixed feelings about Mike Anderson...yes, he lied, but he did get all of 
us together at first through the Wispcons. He made the first contacts with the 
FCC.  Can't minimize those things.

Jeff Broadwick
ConVergence Technologies, Inc.
312-205-2519 Office
574-220-7826 Cell
jbroadw...@converge-tech.com

> On Aug 13, 2017, at 3:37 PM,   wrote:
> 
> Didn’t WISPA originally start with a group of part-15 members that were not 
> happy with part-15?
>  
> One of the WISPA guys at a booth in a trade show in Las Vegas told me the 
> story but I forgot it. 
> This had to be about maybe 2004? 
> I remember he was pissed because Michael never gave him that copper part-15 
> medallion. 
>  
> I remember a ton of emails complaining that part-15 was not actually a non 
> profit etc etc. 
>  
> From: Colin Stanners
> Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2017 1:26 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT..Marlon Schaefer .. pioneer WISP
>  
> I remember that name from the part-15.org / Micheal Anderson days how 
> long has it been, around 10 years already? Is Marlon still in the WISP 
> business?
>  
> On Aug 13, 2017 6:51 AM, "Jaime Solorza"  wrote:
> We had dinner with Marlon and Melissa Schaefer at La Posta in Mesilla, NM 
> yesterday evening.  They brought their daughter to get settle in at NMSU.  It 
> was nice to touch base with him and get news on old friends from early 
> wireless days.  They have a cool 35 ft mobile home they driving to PHX to 
> visit friends and then Vegas for some R  Yes they loved the real Mexican 
> food , some Tecate and took some Hatch chile.  Mi casa es su casa...
> 
> Jaime Solorza
>  

Re: [AFMUG] OT..Marlon Schaefer .. pioneer WISP

[chuck]

Didn’t WISPA originally start with a group of part-15 members that were not 
happy with part-15?

One of the WISPA guys at a booth in a trade show in Las Vegas told me the story 
but I forgot it.  
This had to be about maybe 2004?  
I remember he was pissed because Michael never gave him that copper part-15 
medallion.  

I remember a ton of emails complaining that part-15 was not actually a non 
profit etc etc.  

From: Colin Stanners 
Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2017 1:26 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT..Marlon Schaefer .. pioneer WISP

I remember that name from the part-15.org / Micheal Anderson days how long 
has it been, around 10 years already? Is Marlon still in the WISP business?


On Aug 13, 2017 6:51 AM, "Jaime Solorza"  wrote:

  We had dinner with Marlon and Melissa Schaefer at La Posta in Mesilla, NM 
yesterday evening.  They brought their daughter to get settle in at NMSU.  It 
was nice to touch base with him and get news on old friends from early wireless 
days.  They have a cool 35 ft mobile home they driving to PHX to visit friends 
and then Vegas for some R  Yes they loved the real Mexican food , some 
Tecate and took some Hatch chile.  Mi casa es su casa...


  Jaime Solorza

Re: [AFMUG] OT..Marlon Schaefer .. pioneer WISP

[Colin Stanners]

I remember that name from the part-15.org / Micheal Anderson days how
long has it been, around 10 years already? Is Marlon still in the WISP
business?

On Aug 13, 2017 6:51 AM, "Jaime Solorza"  wrote:

We had dinner with Marlon and Melissa Schaefer at La Posta in Mesilla, NM
yesterday evening.  They brought their daughter to get settle in at NMSU.
It was nice to touch base with him and get news on old friends from early
wireless days.  They have a cool 35 ft mobile home they driving to PHX to
visit friends and then Vegas for some R  Yes they loved the real Mexican
food , some Tecate and took some Hatch chile.  Mi casa es su casa...

Jaime Solorza

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Hotspot pages

[Adam Moffett]

The cookie works for trial logins as well.  I don't think there's any 
downside to upgrading that RB.



-- Original Message --
From: "Josh Luthman" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 8/12/2017 11:42:05 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Hotspot pages

That's what I do at hotels.  I get the carrying case of shit devices or 
whatever.  I tend to update when there is multiple cases in a few 
hours/night.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Aug 10, 2017 6:24 PM, "Nate Burke"  wrote:
I have a site that is using Mikrotik Hotspot for a disclaimer/TOS 
page.  It has been in place for years, and it hasn't been broke, so I 
haven't fixed it, (ROS v5.0rc3).  The AP hardware has been upgraded, 
currently running ruckus XI-3 AP's.  Recently I'm hearing from the 
site about once a week that someone is either unable to accept the 
terms, or they accept the terms, it works for a few seconds then they 
get kicked off.  Unfortunately there is nobody technical at the site, 
so tracking down exactly what is really happening is hard.  Every time 
I'm on site, I can connect/disconnect with my laptop/droid with no 
issues.  Have there been changes made to the Mikrotik hotspotting that 
would help newer devices connect or stay connected?  Reading through 
the Change Logs, it looks like Mac-Cookie was added in 6.0, but that 
seems to help when an actual login is required, nothing else jumped 
out as a big change.


Is there a better/different method for a simple 'click here to accept 
the terms' solution?


Nate