Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Powerbox Short Circuit Message

[Mathew Howard]

Yep, what Matt said... that setting will more than likely fix it.

On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 7:36 PM, Matt Hoppes <
mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:

> It's the input cable that's the issue.
>
> It's stupid.
>
>
> /interface ethernet poe settings set ether1-poe-in-long-cable=yes
>
> On Nov 2, 2017, at 20:07, Jason McKemie 
> wrote:
>
> That is a royal pain if I went through all of that for a setting. The
> strange thing is that the output port is the short cable at about 3', the
> input is about 80'.
>
> On Thursday, November 2, 2017, Matt Hoppes  rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
>
>> There's some setting somewhere about long distance PoE short detection
>> that needs to be turned off. Royal pain.
>>
>> > On Nov 2, 2017, at 19:09, Jason McKemie > com> wrote:
>> >
>> > I've got a powerbox causing me grief. It works fine powering a Baicells
>> CPE on the bench, but when I put it in place with 80' of cable between it
>> and the power supply I get a short circuit message when trying to power up
>> the Baicells. I've tried a new jumper between the powerbox and the
>> Baicells, new ends on the main run going to the powerbox, and a different
>> power supply - all to no avail. Am I really past the distance limit? If so,
>> WTF Mikrotik?
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT Dinner

[Simon Westlake]

Almost as good as Jaime's pics..

On 11/2/2017 7:20 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

Some of my favorites...


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Re: [AFMUG] OT Dinner

[Jaime Solorza]

Machaca Brisket for me, Enchiladas for wife...

On Nov 2, 2017 6:21 PM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:

> Some of my favorites...

Re: [AFMUG] OT Dinner

[Chuck McCown]

Well, when you are taking care of yourself, why dirty a dish...

-Original Message- 
From: Jay Weekley 
Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2017 6:47 PM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Dinner 


Livin' large!

Chuck McCown wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] OT Dinner

[Jaime Solorza]

Wait till they serve us here at Kiki's...

On Nov 2, 2017 6:21 PM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:

> Some of my favorites...

Re: [AFMUG] OT Dinner

[Jay Weekley]

Livin' large!

Chuck McCown wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Powerbox Short Circuit Message

[Matt Hoppes]

It's the input cable that's the issue. 

It's stupid. 


/interface ethernet poe settings set ether1-poe-in-long-cable=yes

> On Nov 2, 2017, at 20:07, Jason McKemie  
> wrote:
> 
> That is a royal pain if I went through all of that for a setting. The strange 
> thing is that the output port is the short cable at about 3', the input is 
> about 80'.
> 
>> On Thursday, November 2, 2017, Matt Hoppes 
>>  wrote:
>> There's some setting somewhere about long distance PoE short detection that 
>> needs to be turned off. Royal pain.
>> 
>> > On Nov 2, 2017, at 19:09, Jason McKemie  
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > I've got a powerbox causing me grief. It works fine powering a Baicells 
>> > CPE on the bench, but when I put it in place with 80' of cable between it 
>> > and the power supply I get a short circuit message when trying to power up 
>> > the Baicells. I've tried a new jumper between the powerbox and the 
>> > Baicells, new ends on the main run going to the powerbox, and a different 
>> > power supply - all to no avail. Am I really past the distance limit? If 
>> > so, WTF Mikrotik?

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Powerbox Short Circuit Message

[Jason McKemie]

That is a royal pain if I went through all of that for a setting. The
strange thing is that the output port is the short cable at about 3', the
input is about 80'.

On Thursday, November 2, 2017, Matt Hoppes <
mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:

> There's some setting somewhere about long distance PoE short detection
> that needs to be turned off. Royal pain.
>
> > On Nov 2, 2017, at 19:09, Jason McKemie <
> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com > wrote:
> >
> > I've got a powerbox causing me grief. It works fine powering a Baicells
> CPE on the bench, but when I put it in place with 80' of cable between it
> and the power supply I get a short circuit message when trying to power up
> the Baicells. I've tried a new jumper between the powerbox and the
> Baicells, new ends on the main run going to the powerbox, and a different
> power supply - all to no avail. Am I really past the distance limit? If so,
> WTF Mikrotik?
>

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Powerbox Short Circuit Message

[Jason McKemie]

The powerbox is showing over 23v, so I don't think it is a voltage drop
issue.

On Thursday, November 2, 2017, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> Have you worked out the current needed and the voltage drop created by the
> cable?  It might be that the voltage drop is so much that you are in that
> switch mode regulator fold over region that I pontificated upon with all
> the math formulas a while back.
>
> *From:* Jason McKemie
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 02, 2017 5:09 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Mikrotik Powerbox Short Circuit Message
>
> I've got a powerbox causing me grief. It works fine powering a Baicells
> CPE on the bench, but when I put it in place with 80' of cable between it
> and the power supply I get a short circuit message when trying to power up
> the Baicells. I've tried a new jumper between the powerbox and the
> Baicells, new ends on the main run going to the powerbox, and a different
> power supply - all to no avail. Am I really past the distance limit? If so,
> WTF Mikrotik?
>

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Powerbox Short Circuit Message

[Matt Hoppes]

There's some setting somewhere about long distance PoE short detection that 
needs to be turned off. Royal pain. 

> On Nov 2, 2017, at 19:09, Jason McKemie  
> wrote:
> 
> I've got a powerbox causing me grief. It works fine powering a Baicells CPE 
> on the bench, but when I put it in place with 80' of cable between it and the 
> power supply I get a short circuit message when trying to power up the 
> Baicells. I've tried a new jumper between the powerbox and the Baicells, new 
> ends on the main run going to the powerbox, and a different power supply - 
> all to no avail. Am I really past the distance limit? If so, WTF Mikrotik?

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Powerbox Short Circuit Message

[Adam Moffett]

Hmm...Is the Baicells thing 24v or 48v?  I think at 48v it took an 
excessive amount of cable or excessive current to have a problem.



-- Original Message --
From: "Chuck McCown" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 11/2/2017 7:22:20 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Powerbox Short Circuit Message

Have you worked out the current needed and the voltage drop created by 
the cable?  It might be that the voltage drop is so much that you are 
in that switch mode regulator fold over region that I pontificated upon 
with all the math formulas a while back.


From:Jason McKemie
Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2017 5:09 PM
To:af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Powerbox Short Circuit Message

I've got a powerbox causing me grief. It works fine powering a Baicells 
CPE on the bench, but when I put it in place with 80' of cable between 
it and the power supply I get a short circuit message when trying to 
power up the Baicells. I've tried a new jumper between the powerbox and 
the Baicells, new ends on the main run going to the powerbox, and a 
different power supply - all to no avail. Am I really past the distance 
limit? If so, WTF Mikrotik?

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Powerbox Short Circuit Message

[Chuck McCown]

Have you worked out the current needed and the voltage drop created by the 
cable?  It might be that the voltage drop is so much that you are in that 
switch mode regulator fold over region that I pontificated upon with all the 
math formulas a while back.  

From: Jason McKemie 
Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2017 5:09 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Powerbox Short Circuit Message

I've got a powerbox causing me grief. It works fine powering a Baicells CPE on 
the bench, but when I put it in place with 80' of cable between it and the 
power supply I get a short circuit message when trying to power up the 
Baicells. I've tried a new jumper between the powerbox and the Baicells, new 
ends on the main run going to the powerbox, and a different power supply - all 
to no avail. Am I really past the distance limit? If so, WTF Mikrotik? 

[AFMUG] Mikrotik Powerbox Short Circuit Message

[Jason McKemie]

I've got a powerbox causing me grief. It works fine powering a Baicells CPE
on the bench, but when I put it in place with 80' of cable between it and
the power supply I get a short circuit message when trying to power up the
Baicells. I've tried a new jumper between the powerbox and the Baicells,
new ends on the main run going to the powerbox, and a different power
supply - all to no avail. Am I really past the distance limit? If so, WTF
Mikrotik?

[AFMUG] Hope it is OK to cross post this

[Chuck McCown]

From: Dale Curtis 
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2017 12:24 PM
To: Mark Radabaugh ; Ken Hohhof via Members 
Subject: Re: [WISPA Members] Update on CBRS Proceedings

Hello everybody – Dale Curtis here, and I’ll try to be brief: 

 

  a.. Yes, please, if you receive any calls from the news media about any 
policy subject, please let us know, and please let us assist you. We can field 
the requests for you, and/or provide talking points, background materials, etc. 
The more we speak with one unified voice, the better. 
 

  a.. Ken, thank you for the specific reporter suggestions, and everyone, 
please send any reporter suggestions you may have. We maintain a list of about 
60 reporters in the tech and telecom trades, the DC policy/politics trades, the 
telecom/broadband reporters at national and regional outlets, etc. We have been 
pitching them a lot recently, and that will continue. 
 

  a.. Personalized letters to government officials on your business letterhead 
do have an impact. And the more, the better. Form letters don’t have as much 
impact individually, but in mass numbers, they do have an effect. WISPA will be 
providing guidance and sample language for you; do keep an eye on your email 
inbox and the WISPA Twitter feed.  
 

  a.. Side note: I am looking for “charismatic customers,” meaning unique or 
appealing customers of yours with an interesting story of how they didn’t have 
good broadband before, and you saved the day for them. Even better if CBRS 
spectrum is how you intend to serve them, but any stories are welcome. Schools, 
native communities, celebrities or “big names,” wineries, remote resorts, 
anything with “local color.” Just send me a few sentences on any such stories 
you might have, and we may use them in our future PR activities. We will not 
contact your customers without coordinating with you.   
 

To be continued! Thanks and salutes, Dale Curtis, 
d...@dalecurtiscommunications.com, 202-495-3700

 

 

 

From: Mark Radabaugh [mailto:m...@amplex.net] 
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2017 11:11 AM
To: Ken Hohhof via Members 
Cc: Dale Curtis 
Subject: Re: [WISPA Members] Update on CBRS Proceedings

 

We will have a ‘one-pager’ (that is really two pages) ready shortly that we 
will make available.  Dale Curtis:

 

Dale Curtis (d...@dalecurtiscommunications.com) 

(202) 495-3700

1901 L Street, NW

Suite 300

Washington, DC 20036

 

Is our communication advisor and is extremely helpful when talking with the 
media.Please feel free to forward media inquiries to Dale (or any of the 
WISPA board members) and we can either field the request for you or work with 
you on an appropriate response if you want to speak with the press yourself.

 

Dale is a very good coach and can help you through what can sometimes be a 
minefield in dealing with the press.  I still make him cringe on a regular 
bases - but I’m working on it :-)

 

To your other point - WISPA has been very successful with the DC press over the 
last couple of weeks.   I expect that we will see a major story in Politico on 
Monday based on a conversation we had yesterday with a reporter, and I will 
pass along your other suggestions on media outlets to Dale and see what he can 
set up.

 

Thanks,

 

Mark

 

Mark Radabaugh

WISPA FCC Committee Chair

fcc_ch...@wispa.org

419-261-5996

 

  On Oct 20, 2017, at 10:53 AM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:

   

  All our comments of course are public and Google-able.  And a Google search 
is what passes for journalism these days.

   

  There are about a dozen usual suspects that will mine the filings looking for 
something to write about.  Some have a default anti-ISP bias.  Some have a 
pro-telco bias.  Some are maybe even neutral.

   

  Would it make sense for someone at WISPA to reach out to these folks over the 
next few weeks and present our “spin” on the NPRM and our comments?  I’m not 
sure the Broadband Reports / Techdirt guy can be won over, but Jon Brodkin at 
Ars Technica has written some articles favorable to WISPs even though normally 
he bashes ISPs.  I don’t know about the telco and cellco trade publications.

   

  Maybe if these guys understand where we’re coming from, that we’re not trying 
to be evil, and that we’re actually little guys trying to avoid being screwed 
over by the evil big guys, they would either leave our comments alone or even 
write something nice about them.

   

  I’m not sure if FCC commissioners (or their staff) read all our comments when 
there are hundreds, or if they just tally up how many pro and con.  And I’m not 
sure if the pay attention to what journalists and blogs write about the 
comments.  I’m just thinking if one article sums up our hundreds of comments in 
a favorable or unfavorable light, that might influence them.

   

  The other thing is, we should all be prepared for “journalists” to call or 
email us about what we file.  I know I was called about 

Re: [AFMUG] Boring under 20ft of concrete

[chuck]

Absolutely can be bored.  

If good digging, go get a 20’ lenth of 1” pipe, hook a garden hose to it and 
start poking it under.  When it comes up on the far end, hook the new line to 
it and pull it backwards.  Flex works better.  

Or find a fiber company that has a missile and shoot that under.

Or find a HDD company have them drill it.  

From: TJ Trout 
Sent: Thursday, November 2, 2017 4:02 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] Boring under 20ft of concrete

Getting a new well installed and the pump guy wants to cut 3ft x 20ft out of my 
patio, surely this could be bored (only needs 1 1/4 to 1-1/2 line) any ideas 
that aren't super difficult?

[AFMUG] Boring under 20ft of concrete

[TJ Trout]

Getting a new well installed and the pump guy wants to cut 3ft x 20ft out
of my patio, surely this could be bored (only needs 1 1/4 to 1-1/2 line)
any ideas that aren't super difficult?

Re: [AFMUG] SAF

[Colin Stanners]

SurplusWirelessGear
LastMileGear

really, all the gears

On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 12:27 PM,  wrote:

> Who-all sells SAF?
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT TSLA

[Travis Johnson]

Yes... I've been using Robinhood since it very first started. However, 
they have a long "hold" period to get money into their system as well 
(3-5 days).


So, I do an instant transfer and buy with Scottrade, and then I use 
Robinhood to "move" the shares into their system. :)


They also have some new "margin" packages... so for $100/month in fees, 
they provided me $24,000 worth of trading margin. I'm not sure what that 
amount is based on, but I am giving it a try with the CRM stock.


Travis


On 11/2/2017 12:39 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
Have you tried Robinhood?  It's a phone app (iPhone exists) with free 
trades.  Works exactly like Scottrade as far as I can tell, unless you 
get into amounts of $100k or something.



Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 1:07 PM, Travis Johnson > wrote:


I was talking about buying Bitcoin. To buy stocks, I can complete
a transaction within 5 minutes using Scottrade (including pulling
from a Wells Fargo bank account).

Travis


On 11/2/2017 10:58 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com  wrote:

I generally find it takes longer to sell and get the cash than it
does to send cash and buy.� By about a day.� 2 days vs 3
days.� That is with Fidelity.� I think Ameritrade is a bit
faster.�
�
*From:* Travis Johnson
*Sent:* Thursday, November 2, 2017 10:50 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT TSLA
�
Keep in mind, it takes 3-5 business days to get money into an
account to buy any "substantial" amount. I started the transfer
two days ago and I'm still waiting... watching it go up and up
and up. :(

Travis

On 11/2/2017 10:32 AM, Simon Westlake wrote:

Never mind, it hit 7k today. Would've made $1000 in 2 days if
I'd bought it two days ago. Still not gonna do it now!

On 11/2/2017 11:31 AM, Simon Westlake wrote:

Every time Bitcoin goes up another thousand dollars, I kick
myself for not buying it but then say 'well, it'd be stupid to
buy it now.' Said it at $1000, $2000, $4000, now it's at
$6000.. no way I'm buying it now. Pretty sure I'll be saying
this again at $7000.

On 11/2/2017 11:01 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

Too much of a chicken.�
�
*From:* Gino A. Villarini
*Sent:* Thursday, November 2, 2017 9:38 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT TSLA
�
TSLA??? The $$ is in BTC!!!
�
From: Af  on behalf of Chuck McCown

Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
Date: Wednesday, November 1, 2017 at 6:13 PM
To: "af@afmug.com" 
Subject: [AFMUG] OT TSLA
�
If it drops below 300, might be time to buy.� 250 for
certain.�

*//*�

*/Gino A. Villarini/*

President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968



-- 
Simon Westlake

Email:simon@sonar.software
Phone:(702) 447-1247   US /(780) 900-1180 
  CA
---
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The future of ISP billing and OSS
https://sonar.software


-- 
Simon Westlake

Email:simon@sonar.software
Phone:(702) 447-1247   US /(780) 900-1180 
  CA
---
Sonar Software Inc
The future of ISP billing and OSS
https://sonar.software

Re: [AFMUG] OT TSLA

[Josh Luthman]

Have you tried Robinhood?  It's a phone app (iPhone exists) with free
trades.  Works exactly like Scottrade as far as I can tell, unless you get
into amounts of $100k or something.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 1:07 PM, Travis Johnson  wrote:

> I was talking about buying Bitcoin. To buy stocks, I can complete a
> transaction within 5 minutes using Scottrade (including pulling from a
> Wells Fargo bank account).
>
> Travis
>
>
> On 11/2/2017 10:58 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>
> I generally find it takes longer to sell and get the cash than it does to
> send cash and buy.� By about a day.� 2 days vs 3 days.� That is with
> Fidelity.� I think Ameritrade is a bit faster.�
> �
> *From:* Travis Johnson
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 2, 2017 10:50 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT TSLA
> �
> Keep in mind, it takes 3-5 business days to get money into an account to
> buy any "substantial" amount. I started the transfer two days ago and I'm
> still waiting... watching it go up and up and up. :(
>
> Travis
>
> On 11/2/2017 10:32 AM, Simon Westlake wrote:
>
> Never mind, it hit 7k today. Would've made $1000 in 2 days if I'd bought
> it two days ago. Still not gonna do it now!
>
> On 11/2/2017 11:31 AM, Simon Westlake wrote:
>
> Every time Bitcoin goes up another thousand dollars, I kick myself for not
> buying it but then say 'well, it'd be stupid to buy it now.' Said it at
> $1000, $2000, $4000, now it's at $6000.. no way I'm buying it now. Pretty
> sure I'll be saying this again at $7000.
>
> On 11/2/2017 11:01 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>
> Too much of a chicken.�
> �
> *From:* Gino A. Villarini
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 2, 2017 9:38 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT TSLA
> �
> TSLA??? The $$ is in BTC!!!
> �
> From: Af  on behalf of Chuck McCown  >
> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
> Date: Wednesday, November 1, 2017 at 6:13 PM
> To: "af@afmug.com" 
> Subject: [AFMUG] OT TSLA
> �
> If it drops below 300, might be time to buy.� 250 for certain.�
>
> �
>
> *Gino A. Villarini*
> President
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
>
> --
> Simon Westlake
> Email: simon@sonar.software
> Phone: (702) 447-1247 US / (780) 900-1180 CA
> ---
> Sonar Software Inc
> The future of ISP billing and OSShttps://sonar.software
>
>
> --
> Simon Westlake
> Email: simon@sonar.software
> Phone: (702) 447-1247 US / (780) 900-1180 CA
> ---
> Sonar Software Inc
> The future of ISP billing and OSShttps://sonar.software
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT TSLA

[Simon Westlake]

Or whatever floats your boat!

On 11/2/2017 12:36 PM, Gino A. Villarini wrote:

Camaro?..

From: Af > on 
behalf of Simon Westlake >

Organization: Sonar Software, Inc
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com " >

Date: Thursday, November 2, 2017 at 1:02 PM
To: "af@afmug.com " >

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT TSLA

Enough to get yourself a new Camaro and a trip to Barcelona

*//*

*/Gino A. Villarini/*

President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

On 11/2/2017 11:57 AM, Gino A. Villarini wrote:
Lol�1�2 im kicking myself daily�1�2 1.5 year ago I had 100 
BTC�1�2s! I stated selling when I was 2x over my cost�1�2 so.. I 
earned 100% but could have made 1000%!!!


I still have 15 �1�2.

From: Af > on 
behalf of Travis Johnson >
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com " >

Date: Thursday, November 2, 2017 at 12:50 PM
To: "af@afmug.com " >

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT TSLA

Keep in mind, it takes 3-5 business days to get money into an account 
to buy any "substantial" amount. I started the transfer two days ago 
and I'm still waiting... watching it go up and up and up. :(


Travis

*//*�1�2

*/Gino A. Villarini/*

President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

On 11/2/2017 10:32 AM, Simon Westlake wrote:
Never mind, it hit 7k today. Would've made $1000 in 2 days if I'd 
bought it two days ago. Still not gonna do it now!


On 11/2/2017 11:31 AM, Simon Westlake wrote:
Every time Bitcoin goes up another thousand dollars, I kick myself 
for not buying it but then say 'well, it'd be stupid to buy it 
now.' Said it at $1000, $2000, $4000, now it's at $6000.. no way 
I'm buying it now. Pretty sure I'll be saying this again at $7000.


On 11/2/2017 11:01 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

Too much of a chicken.�1�21�1�22
�1�21�1�22
*From:* Gino A. Villarini
*Sent:* Thursday, November 2, 2017 9:38 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT TSLA
�1�21�1�22
TSLA??? The $$ is in BTC!!!
�1�21�1�22
From: Af  on behalf of Chuck McCown 


Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
Date: Wednesday, November 1, 2017 at 6:13 PM
To: "af@afmug.com" 
Subject: [AFMUG] OT TSLA
�1�21�1�22
If it drops below 300, might be time to buy.�1�21�1�22 250 for 
certain.�1�21�1�22


*//*�1�21�1�22

*/Gino A. Villarini/*

President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968



--
Simon Westlake
Email:simon@sonar.software
Phone: (702) 447-1247 US / (780) 900-1180 CA
---
Sonar Software Inc
The future of ISP billing and OSS
https://sonar.software


--
Simon Westlake
Email:simon@sonar.software
Phone: (702) 447-1247 US / (780) 900-1180 CA
---
Sonar Software Inc
The future of ISP billing and OSS
https://sonar.software




--
Simon Westlake
Email:simon@sonar.software
Phone: (702) 447-1247 US / (780) 900-1180 CA
---
Sonar Software Inc
The future of ISP billing and OSS
https://sonar.software


--
Simon Westlake
Email: simon@sonar.software
Phone: (702) 447-1247 US / (780) 900-1180 CA
---
Sonar Software Inc
The future of ISP billing and OSS
https://sonar.software

Re: [AFMUG] OT TSLA

[Mathew Howard]

But for the price of that you can buy a Camaro and an awful lot of gas to
burn...

On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 12:38 PM,  wrote:

> Yeah, I think I would rather have something with a “ludicrous mode” than a
> gas burner.
>
> *From:* Gino A. Villarini
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 2, 2017 11:36 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT TSLA
>
> Camaro?..
>
> From: Af  on behalf of Simon Westlake <
> simon@sonar.software>
> Organization: Sonar Software, Inc
> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
> Date: Thursday, November 2, 2017 at 1:02 PM
> To: "af@afmug.com" 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT TSLA
>
> Enough to get yourself a new Camaro and a trip to Barcelona
>
>
>
> *Gino A. Villarini*
> President
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
> On 11/2/2017 11:57 AM, Gino A. Villarini wrote:
>
> Lolï¿1Ž2 im kicking myself dailyï¿1Ž2 1.5 year ago I had 100 BTCï¿1Ž2s! I
> stated selling when I was 2x over my costï¿1Ž2 so.. I earned 100% but could
> have made 1000%!!!
>
> I still have 15 ï¿1Ž2.
>
> From: Af  on behalf of Travis Johnson 
> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
> Date: Thursday, November 2, 2017 at 12:50 PM
> To: "af@afmug.com" 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT TSLA
>
> Keep in mind, it takes 3-5 business days to get money into an account to
> buy any "substantial" amount. I started the transfer two days ago and I'm
> still waiting... watching it go up and up and up. :(
>
> Travis
>
> ï¿1Ž2
>
> *Gino A. Villarini*
> President
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
> On 11/2/2017 10:32 AM, Simon Westlake wrote:
>
> Never mind, it hit 7k today. Would've made $1000 in 2 days if I'd bought
> it two days ago. Still not gonna do it now!
>
> On 11/2/2017 11:31 AM, Simon Westlake wrote:
>
> Every time Bitcoin goes up another thousand dollars, I kick myself for not
> buying it but then say 'well, it'd be stupid to buy it now.' Said it at
> $1000, $2000, $4000, now it's at $6000.. no way I'm buying it now. Pretty
> sure I'll be saying this again at $7000.
>
> On 11/2/2017 11:01 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>
> Too much of a chicken.ï¿1Ž21ï¿1Ž22
> ï¿1Ž21ï¿1Ž22
> *From:* Gino A. Villarini
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 2, 2017 9:38 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT TSLA
> ï¿1Ž21ï¿1Ž22
> TSLA??? The $$ is in BTC!!!
> ï¿1Ž21ï¿1Ž22
> From: Af  on behalf of Chuck McCown  >
> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
> Date: Wednesday, November 1, 2017 at 6:13 PM
> To: "af@afmug.com" 
> Subject: [AFMUG] OT TSLA
> ï¿1Ž21ï¿1Ž22
> If it drops below 300, might be time to buy.ï¿1Ž21ï¿1Ž22 250 for
> certain.ï¿1Ž21ï¿1Ž22
>
> ï¿1Ž21ï¿1Ž22
>
> *Gino A. Villarini*
> President
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
>
> --
> Simon Westlake
> Email: simon@sonar.software
> Phone: (702) 447-1247 US / (780) 900-1180 CA
> ---
> Sonar Software Inc
> The future of ISP billing and OSShttps://sonar.software
>
>
> --
> Simon Westlake
> Email: simon@sonar.software
> Phone: (702) 447-1247 US / (780) 900-1180 CA
> ---
> Sonar Software Inc
> The future of ISP billing and OSShttps://sonar.software
>
>
>
> --
> Simon Westlake
> Email: simon@sonar.software
> Phone: (702) 447-1247 US / (780) 900-1180 CA
> ---
> Sonar Software Inc
> The future of ISP billing and OSShttps://sonar.software
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT TSLA

[chuck]

Yeah, I think I would rather have something with a “ludicrous mode” than a gas 
burner.  

From: Gino A. Villarini 
Sent: Thursday, November 2, 2017 11:36 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT TSLA

Camaro?.. 

From: Af  on behalf of Simon Westlake 

Organization: Sonar Software, Inc
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
Date: Thursday, November 2, 2017 at 1:02 PM
To: "af@afmug.com" 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT TSLA


Enough to get yourself a new Camaro and a trip to Barcelona




  Gino A. Villarini
 
  President 
  Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 




On 11/2/2017 11:57 AM, Gino A. Villarini wrote:

  Lolï¿1Ž2 im kicking myself dailyï¿1Ž2 1.5 year ago I had 100 BTCï¿1Ž2s! I 
stated selling when I was 2x over my costï¿1Ž2 so.. I earned 100% but could 
have made 1000%!!!

  I still have 15 ï¿1Ž2.

  From: Af  on behalf of Travis Johnson 
  Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
  Date: Thursday, November 2, 2017 at 12:50 PM
  To: "af@afmug.com" 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT TSLA


  Keep in mind, it takes 3-5 business days to get money into an account to buy 
any "substantial" amount. I started the transfer two days ago and I'm still 
waiting... watching it go up and up and up. :(

  Travis


ï¿1Ž2

Gino A. Villarini
   
President 
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 




  On 11/2/2017 10:32 AM, Simon Westlake wrote:

Never mind, it hit 7k today. Would've made $1000 in 2 days if I'd bought it 
two days ago. Still not gonna do it now!


On 11/2/2017 11:31 AM, Simon Westlake wrote:

  Every time Bitcoin goes up another thousand dollars, I kick myself for 
not buying it but then say 'well, it'd be stupid to buy it now.' Said it at 
$1000, $2000, $4000, now it's at $6000.. no way I'm buying it now. Pretty sure 
I'll be saying this again at $7000.


  On 11/2/2017 11:01 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

Too much of a chicken.ï¿1Ž21ï¿1Ž22 
ï¿1Ž21ï¿1Ž22
From: Gino A. Villarini 
Sent: Thursday, November 2, 2017 9:38 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT TSLA
ï¿1Ž21ï¿1Ž22
TSLA??? The $$ is in BTC!!!
ï¿1Ž21ï¿1Ž22
From: Af  on behalf of Chuck McCown 

Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
Date: Wednesday, November 1, 2017 at 6:13 PM
To: "af@afmug.com" 
Subject: [AFMUG] OT TSLA

ï¿1Ž21ï¿1Ž22
If it drops below 300, might be time to buy.ï¿1Ž21ï¿1Ž22 250 for 
certain.ï¿1Ž21ï¿1Ž22 
  ï¿1Ž21ï¿1Ž22

  Gino A. Villarini
 
  President 
  Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 






-- 
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Phone: (702) 447-1247 US / (780) 900-1180 CA
---
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The future of ISP billing and OSS
https://sonar.software

-- 
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Phone: (702) 447-1247 US / (780) 900-1180 CA
---
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-- 
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Phone: (702) 447-1247 US / (780) 900-1180 CA
---
Sonar Software Inc
The future of ISP billing and OSS
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Re: [AFMUG] OT TSLA

[Gino A. Villarini]

Camaro?..

From: Af > on behalf of Simon 
Westlake >
Organization: Sonar Software, Inc
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
>
Date: Thursday, November 2, 2017 at 1:02 PM
To: "af@afmug.com" >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT TSLA

Enough to get yourself a new Camaro and a trip to Barcelona




Gino A. Villarini


President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

[cid:aeronet-logo_310cfc3e-6691-4f69-bd49-b37b834b9238.png]

On 11/2/2017 11:57 AM, Gino A. Villarini wrote:
Lolï¿1Ž2 im kicking myself dailyï¿1Ž2 1.5 year ago I had 100 BTCï¿1Ž2s! I 
stated selling when I was 2x over my costï¿1Ž2 so.. I earned 100% but could 
have made 1000%!!!

I still have 15 ï¿1Ž2.

From: Af > on behalf of 
Travis Johnson >
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
>
Date: Thursday, November 2, 2017 at 12:50 PM
To: "af@afmug.com" >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT TSLA

Keep in mind, it takes 3-5 business days to get money into an account to buy 
any "substantial" amount. I started the transfer two days ago and I'm still 
waiting... watching it go up and up and up. :(

Travis


ï¿1Ž2

Gino A. Villarini


President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

[cid:part7.DF6FE8D7.0A6DFEB6@sonar.software]

On 11/2/2017 10:32 AM, Simon Westlake wrote:
Never mind, it hit 7k today. Would've made $1000 in 2 days if I'd bought it two 
days ago. Still not gonna do it now!

On 11/2/2017 11:31 AM, Simon Westlake wrote:
Every time Bitcoin goes up another thousand dollars, I kick myself for not 
buying it but then say 'well, it'd be stupid to buy it now.' Said it at $1000, 
$2000, $4000, now it's at $6000.. no way I'm buying it now. Pretty sure I'll be 
saying this again at $7000.

On 11/2/2017 11:01 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
Too much of a chicken.ï¿1Ž21ï¿1Ž22
ï¿1Ž21ï¿1Ž22
From: Gino A. Villarini
Sent: Thursday, November 2, 2017 9:38 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT TSLA
ï¿1Ž21ï¿1Ž22
TSLA??? The $$ is in BTC!!!
ï¿1Ž21ï¿1Ž22
From: Af  on behalf of Chuck McCown 
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
Date: Wednesday, November 1, 2017 at 6:13 PM
To: "af@afmug.com" 
Subject: [AFMUG] OT TSLA
ï¿1Ž21ï¿1Ž22
If it drops below 300, might be time to buy.ï¿1Ž21ï¿1Ž22 250 for 
certain.ï¿1Ž21ï¿1Ž22

ï¿1Ž21ï¿1Ž22

Gino A. Villarini


President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

[cid:part10.C789FE8C.463040B3@ida.net]


--
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Email: simon@sonar.software
Phone: (702) 447-1247 US / (780) 900-1180 CA
---
Sonar Software Inc
The future of ISP billing and OSS
https://sonar.software


--
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Email: simon@sonar.software
Phone: (702) 447-1247 US / (780) 900-1180 CA
---
Sonar Software Inc
The future of ISP billing and OSS
https://sonar.software



--
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Email: simon@sonar.software
Phone: (702) 447-1247 US / (780) 900-1180 CA
---
Sonar Software Inc
The future of ISP billing and OSS
https://sonar.software

[AFMUG] SAF

[chuck]

Who-all sells SAF?

Re: [AFMUG] OT TSLA

[chuck]

It always takes me a day to pull from a bank account it seems.  

From: Travis Johnson 
Sent: Thursday, November 2, 2017 11:07 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT TSLA

I was talking about buying Bitcoin. To buy stocks, I can complete a transaction 
within 5 minutes using Scottrade (including pulling from a Wells Fargo bank 
account).

Travis



On 11/2/2017 10:58 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

  I generally find it takes longer to sell and get the cash than it does to 
send cash and buy.� By about a day.� 2 days vs 3 days.� That is with 
Fidelity.� I think Ameritrade is a bit faster.� 
  �
  From: Travis Johnson 
  Sent: Thursday, November 2, 2017 10:50 AM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT TSLA
  �
  Keep in mind, it takes 3-5 business days to get money into an account to buy 
any "substantial" amount. I started the transfer two days ago and I'm still 
waiting... watching it go up and up and up. :(

  Travis


  On 11/2/2017 10:32 AM, Simon Westlake wrote:

Never mind, it hit 7k today. Would've made $1000 in 2 days if I'd bought it 
two days ago. Still not gonna do it now!


On 11/2/2017 11:31 AM, Simon Westlake wrote:

  Every time Bitcoin goes up another thousand dollars, I kick myself for 
not buying it but then say 'well, it'd be stupid to buy it now.' Said it at 
$1000, $2000, $4000, now it's at $6000.. no way I'm buying it now. Pretty sure 
I'll be saying this again at $7000.


  On 11/2/2017 11:01 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

Too much of a chicken.� 
�
From: Gino A. Villarini 
Sent: Thursday, November 2, 2017 9:38 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT TSLA
�
TSLA??? The $$ is in BTC!!!
�
From: Af  on behalf of Chuck McCown 

Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
Date: Wednesday, November 1, 2017 at 6:13 PM
To: "af@afmug.com" 
Subject: [AFMUG] OT TSLA

�
If it drops below 300, might be time to buy.� 250 for certain.� 
  �

  Gino A. Villarini
 
  President 
  Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 






-- 
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Email: simon@sonar.software
Phone: (702) 447-1247 US / (780) 900-1180 CA
---
Sonar Software Inc
The future of ISP billing and OSS
https://sonar.software

-- 
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Email: simon@sonar.software
Phone: (702) 447-1247 US / (780) 900-1180 CA
---
Sonar Software Inc
The future of ISP billing and OSS
https://sonar.software

Re: [AFMUG] OT TSLA

[Travis Johnson]

I was talking about buying Bitcoin. To buy stocks, I can complete a 
transaction within 5 minutes using Scottrade (including pulling from a 
Wells Fargo bank account).


Travis


On 11/2/2017 10:58 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
I generally find it takes longer to sell and get the cash than it does 
to send cash and buy.� By about a day.� 2 days vs 3 days.� That is 
with Fidelity.� I think Ameritrade is a bit faster.

*From:* Travis Johnson
*Sent:* Thursday, November 2, 2017 10:50 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT TSLA
Keep in mind, it takes 3-5 business days to get money into an account 
to buy any "substantial" amount. I started the transfer two days ago 
and I'm still waiting... watching it go up and up and up. :(


Travis

On 11/2/2017 10:32 AM, Simon Westlake wrote:
Never mind, it hit 7k today. Would've made $1000 in 2 days if I'd 
bought it two days ago. Still not gonna do it now!


On 11/2/2017 11:31 AM, Simon Westlake wrote:
Every time Bitcoin goes up another thousand dollars, I kick myself 
for not buying it but then say 'well, it'd be stupid to buy it now.' 
Said it at $1000, $2000, $4000, now it's at $6000.. no way I'm 
buying it now. Pretty sure I'll be saying this again at $7000.


On 11/2/2017 11:01 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

Too much of a chicken.�
�
*From:* Gino A. Villarini
*Sent:* Thursday, November 2, 2017 9:38 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT TSLA
�
TSLA??? The $$ is in BTC!!!
�
From: Af  on behalf of Chuck McCown 


Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
Date: Wednesday, November 1, 2017 at 6:13 PM
To: "af@afmug.com" 
Subject: [AFMUG] OT TSLA
�
If it drops below 300, might be time to buy.� 250 for certain.�

*//*�

*/Gino A. Villarini/*

President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968



--
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Email:simon@sonar.software
Phone: (702) 447-1247 US / (780) 900-1180 CA
---
Sonar Software Inc
The future of ISP billing and OSS
https://sonar.software


--
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Email:simon@sonar.software
Phone: (702) 447-1247 US / (780) 900-1180 CA
---
Sonar Software Inc
The future of ISP billing and OSS
https://sonar.software

Re: [AFMUG] OT TSLA

[chuck]

Yeahbut who wants to go to a civil war zone

From: Simon Westlake 
Sent: Thursday, November 2, 2017 11:02 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT TSLA

Enough to get yourself a new Camaro and a trip to Barcelona


On 11/2/2017 11:57 AM, Gino A. Villarini wrote:

  Lol� im kicking myself daily� 1.5 year ago I had 100 BTC�s! I stated 
selling when I was 2x over my cost� so.. I earned 100% but could have made 
1000%!!!

  I still have 15 �.

  From: Af  on behalf of Travis Johnson 
  Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
  Date: Thursday, November 2, 2017 at 12:50 PM
  To: "af@afmug.com" 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT TSLA


  Keep in mind, it takes 3-5 business days to get money into an account to buy 
any "substantial" amount. I started the transfer two days ago and I'm still 
waiting... watching it go up and up and up. :(

  Travis


�

Gino A. Villarini
   
President 
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 




  On 11/2/2017 10:32 AM, Simon Westlake wrote:

Never mind, it hit 7k today. Would've made $1000 in 2 days if I'd bought it 
two days ago. Still not gonna do it now!


On 11/2/2017 11:31 AM, Simon Westlake wrote:

  Every time Bitcoin goes up another thousand dollars, I kick myself for 
not buying it but then say 'well, it'd be stupid to buy it now.' Said it at 
$1000, $2000, $4000, now it's at $6000.. no way I'm buying it now. Pretty sure 
I'll be saying this again at $7000.


  On 11/2/2017 11:01 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

Too much of a chicken.�1�2 
�1�2
From: Gino A. Villarini 
Sent: Thursday, November 2, 2017 9:38 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT TSLA
�1�2
TSLA??? The $$ is in BTC!!!
�1�2
From: Af  on behalf of Chuck McCown 

Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
Date: Wednesday, November 1, 2017 at 6:13 PM
To: "af@afmug.com" 
Subject: [AFMUG] OT TSLA

�1�2
If it drops below 300, might be time to buy.�1�2 250 for 
certain.�1�2 
  �1�2

  Gino A. Villarini
 
  President 
  Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 






-- 
Simon Westlake
Email: simon@sonar.software
Phone: (702) 447-1247 US / (780) 900-1180 CA
---
Sonar Software Inc
The future of ISP billing and OSS
https://sonar.software

-- 
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Email: simon@sonar.software
Phone: (702) 447-1247 US / (780) 900-1180 CA
---
Sonar Software Inc
The future of ISP billing and OSS
https://sonar.software



-- 
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Email: simon@sonar.software
Phone: (702) 447-1247 US / (780) 900-1180 CA
---
Sonar Software Inc
The future of ISP billing and OSS
https://sonar.software

Re: [AFMUG] OT TSLA

[Simon Westlake]

Enough to get yourself a new Camaro and a trip to Barcelona

On 11/2/2017 11:57 AM, Gino A. Villarini wrote:
Lol� im kicking myself daily� 1.5 year ago I had 100 BTC�s! I stated 
selling when I was 2x over my cost� so.. I earned 100% but could have 
made 1000%!!!


I still have 15 �.

From: Af > on 
behalf of Travis Johnson >
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com " >

Date: Thursday, November 2, 2017 at 12:50 PM
To: "af@afmug.com " >

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT TSLA

Keep in mind, it takes 3-5 business days to get money into an account 
to buy any "substantial" amount. I started the transfer two days ago 
and I'm still waiting... watching it go up and up and up. :(


Travis

*//*

*/Gino A. Villarini/*

President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

On 11/2/2017 10:32 AM, Simon Westlake wrote:
Never mind, it hit 7k today. Would've made $1000 in 2 days if I'd 
bought it two days ago. Still not gonna do it now!


On 11/2/2017 11:31 AM, Simon Westlake wrote:
Every time Bitcoin goes up another thousand dollars, I kick myself 
for not buying it but then say 'well, it'd be stupid to buy it now.' 
Said it at $1000, $2000, $4000, now it's at $6000.. no way I'm 
buying it now. Pretty sure I'll be saying this again at $7000.


On 11/2/2017 11:01 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

Too much of a chicken.�1�2
�1�2
*From:* Gino A. Villarini
*Sent:* Thursday, November 2, 2017 9:38 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT TSLA
�1�2
TSLA??? The $$ is in BTC!!!
�1�2
From: Af  on behalf of Chuck McCown 


Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
Date: Wednesday, November 1, 2017 at 6:13 PM
To: "af@afmug.com" 
Subject: [AFMUG] OT TSLA
�1�2
If it drops below 300, might be time to buy.�1�2 250 for 
certain.�1�2


*//*�1�2

*/Gino A. Villarini/*

President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968



--
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Email:simon@sonar.software
Phone: (702) 447-1247 US / (780) 900-1180 CA
---
Sonar Software Inc
The future of ISP billing and OSS
https://sonar.software


--
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Phone: (702) 447-1247 US / (780) 900-1180 CA
---
Sonar Software Inc
The future of ISP billing and OSS
https://sonar.software




--
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Email: simon@sonar.software
Phone: (702) 447-1247 US / (780) 900-1180 CA
---
Sonar Software Inc
The future of ISP billing and OSS
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Re: [AFMUG] OT TSLA

[Chris Wright]

If you bought on Coinbase using ACH it purchases the BTC immediately but
takes a week to post. When it posts you receive the amount you paid for as
it was valued at the time you initiated the purchase.

 

Chris Wright

Network Administrator

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson
Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2017 9:50 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT TSLA

 

Keep in mind, it takes 3-5 business days to get money into an account to buy
any "substantial" amount. I started the transfer two days ago and I'm still
waiting... watching it go up and up and up. :(

Travis

On 11/2/2017 10:32 AM, Simon Westlake wrote:

Never mind, it hit 7k today. Would've made $1000 in 2 days if I'd bought it
two days ago. Still not gonna do it now!

On 11/2/2017 11:31 AM, Simon Westlake wrote:

Every time Bitcoin goes up another thousand dollars, I kick myself for not
buying it but then say 'well, it'd be stupid to buy it now.' Said it at
$1000, $2000, $4000, now it's at $6000.. no way I'm buying it now. Pretty
sure I'll be saying this again at $7000.

On 11/2/2017 11:01 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

Too much of a chicken.� 

�

From: Gino A. Villarini 

Sent: Thursday, November 2, 2017 9:38 AM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT TSLA

�

TSLA??? The $$ is in BTC!!!

�

From: Af  on behalf of Chuck McCown 
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
Date: Wednesday, November 1, 2017 at 6:13 PM
To: "af@afmug.com" 
Subject: [AFMUG] OT TSLA

�

If it drops below 300, might be time to buy.� 250 for certain.� 


�

Gino A. Villarini


President


Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968







-- 
Simon Westlake
Email: simon@sonar.software
Phone: (702) 447-1247 US / (780) 900-1180 CA
---
Sonar Software Inc
The future of ISP billing and OSS
https://sonar.software





-- 
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Email: simon@sonar.software
Phone: (702) 447-1247 US / (780) 900-1180 CA
---
Sonar Software Inc
The future of ISP billing and OSS
https://sonar.software

 

Re: [AFMUG] OT TSLA

[chuck]

I generally find it takes longer to sell and get the cash than it does to send 
cash and buy.  By about a day.  2 days vs 3 days.  That is with Fidelity.  I 
think Ameritrade is a bit faster.  

From: Travis Johnson 
Sent: Thursday, November 2, 2017 10:50 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT TSLA

Keep in mind, it takes 3-5 business days to get money into an account to buy 
any "substantial" amount. I started the transfer two days ago and I'm still 
waiting... watching it go up and up and up. :(

Travis


On 11/2/2017 10:32 AM, Simon Westlake wrote:

  Never mind, it hit 7k today. Would've made $1000 in 2 days if I'd bought it 
two days ago. Still not gonna do it now!


  On 11/2/2017 11:31 AM, Simon Westlake wrote:

Every time Bitcoin goes up another thousand dollars, I kick myself for not 
buying it but then say 'well, it'd be stupid to buy it now.' Said it at $1000, 
$2000, $4000, now it's at $6000.. no way I'm buying it now. Pretty sure I'll be 
saying this again at $7000.


On 11/2/2017 11:01 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

  Too much of a chicken.� 
  �
  From: Gino A. Villarini 
  Sent: Thursday, November 2, 2017 9:38 AM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT TSLA
  �
  TSLA??? The $$ is in BTC!!!
  �
  From: Af  on behalf of Chuck McCown 

  Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
  Date: Wednesday, November 1, 2017 at 6:13 PM
  To: "af@afmug.com" 
  Subject: [AFMUG] OT TSLA

  �
  If it drops below 300, might be time to buy.� 250 for certain.� 
�

Gino A. Villarini
   
President 
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 






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Re: [AFMUG] OT TSLA

[Gino A. Villarini]

Lol… im kicking myself daily… 1.5 year ago I had 100 BTC’s! I stated selling 
when I was 2x over my cost… so.. I earned 100% but could have made 1000%!!!

I still have 15 ….

From: Af > on behalf of 
Travis Johnson >
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
>
Date: Thursday, November 2, 2017 at 12:50 PM
To: "af@afmug.com" >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT TSLA

Keep in mind, it takes 3-5 business days to get money into an account to buy 
any "substantial" amount. I started the transfer two days ago and I'm still 
waiting... watching it go up and up and up. :(

Travis




Gino A. Villarini


President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

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On 11/2/2017 10:32 AM, Simon Westlake wrote:
Never mind, it hit 7k today. Would've made $1000 in 2 days if I'd bought it two 
days ago. Still not gonna do it now!

On 11/2/2017 11:31 AM, Simon Westlake wrote:
Every time Bitcoin goes up another thousand dollars, I kick myself for not 
buying it but then say 'well, it'd be stupid to buy it now.' Said it at $1000, 
$2000, $4000, now it's at $6000.. no way I'm buying it now. Pretty sure I'll be 
saying this again at $7000.

On 11/2/2017 11:01 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
Too much of a chicken.ï¿1Ž2
ï¿1Ž2
From: Gino A. Villarini
Sent: Thursday, November 2, 2017 9:38 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT TSLA
ï¿1Ž2
TSLA??? The $$ is in BTC!!!
ï¿1Ž2
From: Af  on behalf of Chuck McCown 
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
Date: Wednesday, November 1, 2017 at 6:13 PM
To: "af@afmug.com" 
Subject: [AFMUG] OT TSLA
ï¿1Ž2
If it drops below 300, might be time to buy.ï¿1Ž2 250 for certain.ï¿1Ž2

ï¿1Ž2

Gino A. Villarini


President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

[cid:part10.C789FE8C.463040B3@ida.net]


--
Simon Westlake
Email: simon@sonar.software
Phone: (702) 447-1247 US / (780) 900-1180 CA
---
Sonar Software Inc
The future of ISP billing and OSS
https://sonar.software


--
Simon Westlake
Email: simon@sonar.software
Phone: (702) 447-1247 US / (780) 900-1180 CA
---
Sonar Software Inc
The future of ISP billing and OSS
https://sonar.software

Re: [AFMUG] OT TSLA

[Travis Johnson]

Keep in mind, it takes 3-5 business days to get money into an account to 
buy any "substantial" amount. I started the transfer two days ago and 
I'm still waiting... watching it go up and up and up. :(


Travis

On 11/2/2017 10:32 AM, Simon Westlake wrote:
Never mind, it hit 7k today. Would've made $1000 in 2 days if I'd 
bought it two days ago. Still not gonna do it now!


On 11/2/2017 11:31 AM, Simon Westlake wrote:
Every time Bitcoin goes up another thousand dollars, I kick myself 
for not buying it but then say 'well, it'd be stupid to buy it now.' 
Said it at $1000, $2000, $4000, now it's at $6000.. no way I'm buying 
it now. Pretty sure I'll be saying this again at $7000.


On 11/2/2017 11:01 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

Too much of a chicken.�
�
*From:* Gino A. Villarini
*Sent:* Thursday, November 2, 2017 9:38 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT TSLA
�
TSLA??? The $$ is in BTC!!!
�
From: Af  on behalf of Chuck McCown 


Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
Date: Wednesday, November 1, 2017 at 6:13 PM
To: "af@afmug.com" 
Subject: [AFMUG] OT TSLA
�
If it drops below 300, might be time to buy.� 250 for certain.�

*//*�

*/Gino A. Villarini/*

President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968



--
Simon Westlake
Email:simon@sonar.software
Phone: (702) 447-1247 US / (780) 900-1180 CA
---
Sonar Software Inc
The future of ISP billing and OSS
https://sonar.software


--
Simon Westlake
Email:simon@sonar.software
Phone: (702) 447-1247 US / (780) 900-1180 CA
---
Sonar Software Inc
The future of ISP billing and OSS
https://sonar.software

[AFMUG] Telco Batts - WTB

[Gino A. Villarini]

Looking for telco (thin, front terminals) type AGM batts 150-180ah, my source 
is dried-up!



Gino A. Villarini


President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

[cid:aeronet-logo_310cfc3e-6691-4f69-bd49-b37b834b9238.png]

Re: [AFMUG] OT TSLA

[Simon Westlake]

Never mind, it hit 7k today. Would've made $1000 in 2 days if I'd bought 
it two days ago. Still not gonna do it now!


On 11/2/2017 11:31 AM, Simon Westlake wrote:
Every time Bitcoin goes up another thousand dollars, I kick myself for 
not buying it but then say 'well, it'd be stupid to buy it now.' Said 
it at $1000, $2000, $4000, now it's at $6000.. no way I'm buying it 
now. Pretty sure I'll be saying this again at $7000.


On 11/2/2017 11:01 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

Too much of a chicken.�
�
*From:* Gino A. Villarini
*Sent:* Thursday, November 2, 2017 9:38 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT TSLA
�
TSLA??? The $$ is in BTC!!!
�
From: Af  on behalf of Chuck McCown 


Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
Date: Wednesday, November 1, 2017 at 6:13 PM
To: "af@afmug.com" 
Subject: [AFMUG] OT TSLA
�
If it drops below 300, might be time to buy.� 250 for certain.�

*//*�

*/Gino A. Villarini/*

President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968



--
Simon Westlake
Email:simon@sonar.software
Phone: (702) 447-1247 US / (780) 900-1180 CA
---
Sonar Software Inc
The future of ISP billing and OSS
https://sonar.software


--
Simon Westlake
Email: simon@sonar.software
Phone: (702) 447-1247 US / (780) 900-1180 CA
---
Sonar Software Inc
The future of ISP billing and OSS
https://sonar.software

Re: [AFMUG] OT TSLA

[Simon Westlake]

Every time Bitcoin goes up another thousand dollars, I kick myself for 
not buying it but then say 'well, it'd be stupid to buy it now.' Said it 
at $1000, $2000, $4000, now it's at $6000.. no way I'm buying it now. 
Pretty sure I'll be saying this again at $7000.


On 11/2/2017 11:01 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

Too much of a chicken.
*From:* Gino A. Villarini
*Sent:* Thursday, November 2, 2017 9:38 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT TSLA
TSLA??? The $$ is in BTC!!!
From: Af  on behalf of Chuck McCown 


Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
Date: Wednesday, November 1, 2017 at 6:13 PM
To: "af@afmug.com" 
Subject: [AFMUG] OT TSLA
If it drops below 300, might be time to buy. 250 for certain.

*//*

*/Gino A. Villarini/*

President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968



--
Simon Westlake
Email: simon@sonar.software
Phone: (702) 447-1247 US / (780) 900-1180 CA
---
Sonar Software Inc
The future of ISP billing and OSS
https://sonar.software

Re: [AFMUG] OT TSLA

[chuck]

Too much of a chicken.  

From: Gino A. Villarini 
Sent: Thursday, November 2, 2017 9:38 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT TSLA

TSLA??? The $$ is in BTC!!!

From: Af  on behalf of Chuck McCown 
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
Date: Wednesday, November 1, 2017 at 6:13 PM
To: "af@afmug.com" 
Subject: [AFMUG] OT TSLA


If it drops below 300, might be time to buy.  250 for certain.  


  Gino A. Villarini
 
  President 
  Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 

Re: [AFMUG] OT TSLA

[Gino A. Villarini]

TSLA??? The $$ is in BTC!!!

From: Af > on behalf of Chuck 
McCown >
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
>
Date: Wednesday, November 1, 2017 at 6:13 PM
To: "af@afmug.com" >
Subject: [AFMUG] OT TSLA

If it drops below 300, might be time to buy.  250 for certain.



Gino A. Villarini


President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

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Re: [AFMUG] OT TSLA

[Lewis Bergman]

I can barely keep mine on the ground as it is.

On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 9:17 AM Tyson Burris  wrote:

> Do yourself a favor.  Order that 2018 Dodge Challenger SRT DEMON and don’t
> worry about fuel costs.
>
>
>
> 
>
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>
> 
>
>
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> *Internet Communications Inc.*
> *739 Commerce Dr.
> *
> *Franklin, IN 46131
> *
>
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> *Cell/Direct #* *317-412-1540 <(317)%20412-1540> *
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> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck Hogg
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 1, 2017 11:46 PM
>
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT TSLA
>
>
>
> Just got an email saying my model 3 shipment is delayed again.
>
>
> Regards,
> Chuck
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 6:13 PM,  wrote:
>
> If it drops below 300, might be time to buy.  250 for certain.
>
>
>

[AFMUG] Hal's email address

[Jaime Solorza]

Hello vatos locos...can someone send me Hal from IgniteNet email address
for favor?  Have a possible custom project for video transport...

Re: [AFMUG] OT TSLA

[Tyson Burris]

Do yourself a favor.  Order that 2018 Dodge Challenger SRT DEMON and don’t 
worry about fuel costs.



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Internet Communications Inc.
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Franklin, IN 46131

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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Hogg
Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2017 11:46 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT TSLA

Just got an email saying my model 3 shipment is delayed again.

Regards,
Chuck

On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 6:13 PM, > wrote:
If it drops below 300, might be time to buy.  250 for certain.

Re: [AFMUG] OT TSLA

[Rory Conaway]

Or it might be time to be a Bolt which you can buy today ☺

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson
Sent: Thursday, November 2, 2017 6:21 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT TSLA

Hopefully they don't run out of federal rebates before you get it...

Travis

On 11/1/2017 9:46 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote:
Just got an email saying my model 3 shipment is delayed again.

Regards,
Chuck

On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 6:13 PM, > wrote:
If it drops below 300, might be time to buy.  250 for certain.

Re: [AFMUG] OT TSLA

[Travis Johnson]

Hopefully they don't run out of federal rebates before you get it...

Travis


On 11/1/2017 9:46 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote:

Just got an email saying my model 3 shipment is delayed again.

Regards,
Chuck

On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 6:13 PM, > wrote:


If it drops below 300, might be time to buy.  250 for certain.