Re: [AFMUG] Animal Farm Summer 2018

[TJ Trout]

Chuck can I get 2 admissions by just doubling my price so I don't have to
checkout twice? no option for multiple ticket purchase :)

On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 7:43 PM, Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> For most of my youth I thought Pinchi Jaime was my name...
>
> Jaime Solorza
>
> On Thu, Mar 8, 2018, 8:06 PM Steve Jones 
> wrote:
>
>> Heh
>>
>> On Mar 8, 2018 5:42 PM, "George Skorup"  wrote:
>>
>>> Nope. Asshole is short for George. Or so I'm told.
>>>
>>> On 3/8/2018 3:28 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>>
>>> http://www.whatsinaname.net/male-names/Geo.html
>>>
>>> Probably an old fart thing.
>>>
>>> *From:* Mathew Howard
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 08, 2018 2:12 PM
>>> *To:* af
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Animal Farm Summer 2018
>>>
>>> I don't recall ever having heard anyone refer to George Washington as
>>> Geo before... but I did know that Geo is the diminutive of George...
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 2:46 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>>>
 Geo is the diminutive of George.

 Geo Washington but I guess Canadians don’t know this kind of
 stuff..   ;-)

 *From:* Colin Stanners
 *Sent:* Thursday, March 08, 2018 1:27 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Animal Farm Summer 2018

 Who is "Geo Orwell", or is that the hip peoples' way to refer to the
 author?

 On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 1:58 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> Registration is now open:
> http://www.afmug.com/
>
> The sponsor info is old, but maybe they will all offer to sponsor.
> Really, trying to get Ditchwitch, Vermeer, Preformed Line Products etc
> to sponsor as that is the kind of stuff we will be discussing.
>


>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

Re: [AFMUG] OT: This is pretty slick - that price tag though...

[Rory Conaway]

My wife wanted one until she saw the price.  Electric is the future, but the 
battery weight has to come down to be an effective track car.  I’d also be 
curious how those motors handle running full out all the time.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2018 8:40 PM
To: af
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: This is pretty slick - that price tag though...

But all that only really matters if you're racing it... if somebody is just 
paying to go drive a cool car around in circles really fast, they aren't going 
to care that much about lap times - they're just going to want to drive the 
coolest car.

On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 6:07 PM, Rory Conaway 
> wrote:
0-60 does not a track car make.  Most of these cars we are talking about can 
corner at about 1.1-1.2+gs.  That’s a big advantage on a race track.  And they 
all weight a lot less than the Tesla will with the entire car designed for 1 
thing, lower lap times.  If you want a race car, it’s going to drive like crap 
on the street.  If you want a drag car, it’s going to drive like crap on a road 
track.  If you want a car that can do all 3, that’s a compromise car.  The 
Tesla roadster is built for the street first, road race cars will beat it.  
Drag only cars like a Demon will beat it in ¼ mile when prepped, they are 
already hitting sub 9’s.

But seriously, how many of us are going to spend $250K on a car.  I got hives 
thinking of spending $80K on a street Tesla.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf 
Of Jason McKemie
Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2018 3:41 PM

To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: This is pretty slick - that price tag though...

How is a $500k gt more economical than a $250k Tesla? The Tesla is going to 
blow the doors off of the GT and the Corvette. The Tesla has a 0-60 of less 
than 2 seconds and a top end of 250mph.

On Thursday, March 8, 2018, Travis Johnson > 
wrote:
Normal insurance won't cover any vehicle on a race track. You have to buy 
specialized insurance, which I'm sure would be crazy expensive.

It would be more economical to buy the new Ford GT350R ($500k) or the new 
Corvette Z06 ($120k)... mainly because they are the two fastest track cars 
available right now... even beating the Porsche 918 ($1 million).

Travis
On 3/8/2018 10:10 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
Maybe I could buy one and rent it out for $1K/day.  We do have a very nice race 
track nearby.

From: Chuck McCown
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2018 10:00 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: This is pretty slick - that price tag though...

Travis, want to do a fractional ownership thing with me on one of these???

From: Travis Johnson
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2018 9:52 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: This is pretty slick - that price tag though...

The only problem is the Roadster won't be shipping until 2020 or later... LOL

Travis
On 3/8/2018 9:24 AM, Cameron Crum wrote:
No doubt about that. But, considering the specs on this car, it is cheap 
compared to other "super cars" with relatively similar (not much out there that 
can boast these specs) performance specifications. I've never been a big Tesla 
car fan as I don't think the company would have been successful on its own, but 
that is the car industry these days.

On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 10:01 AM, Robert 
> wrote:
The Tesla is Elon's direct reach into the pockets of the wealthy to fund his 
businesses

On 3/8/18 7:38 AM, Jon Lee wrote:
This is more my style :)
http://bollingermotors.com

On Mar 7, 2018 5:16 PM, "Jason McKemie" >>
 wrote:

https://www.tesla.com/roadster

Re: [AFMUG] Animal Farm Summer 2018

[Jaime Solorza]

For most of my youth I thought Pinchi Jaime was my name...

Jaime Solorza

On Thu, Mar 8, 2018, 8:06 PM Steve Jones  wrote:

> Heh
>
> On Mar 8, 2018 5:42 PM, "George Skorup"  wrote:
>
>> Nope. Asshole is short for George. Or so I'm told.
>>
>> On 3/8/2018 3:28 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>
>> http://www.whatsinaname.net/male-names/Geo.html
>>
>> Probably an old fart thing.
>>
>> *From:* Mathew Howard
>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 08, 2018 2:12 PM
>> *To:* af
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Animal Farm Summer 2018
>>
>> I don't recall ever having heard anyone refer to George Washington as Geo
>> before... but I did know that Geo is the diminutive of George...
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 2:46 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>>
>>> Geo is the diminutive of George.
>>>
>>> Geo Washington but I guess Canadians don’t know this kind of
>>> stuff..   ;-)
>>>
>>> *From:* Colin Stanners
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 08, 2018 1:27 PM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Animal Farm Summer 2018
>>>
>>> Who is "Geo Orwell", or is that the hip peoples' way to refer to the
>>> author?
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 1:58 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>>>
 Registration is now open:
 http://www.afmug.com/

 The sponsor info is old, but maybe they will all offer to sponsor.
 Really, trying to get Ditchwitch, Vermeer, Preformed Line Products etc
 to sponsor as that is the kind of stuff we will be discussing.

>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] OT: This is pretty slick - that price tag though...

[Mathew Howard]

But all that only really matters if you're racing it... if somebody is just
paying to go drive a cool car around in circles really fast, they aren't
going to care that much about lap times - they're just going to want to
drive the coolest car.

On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 6:07 PM, Rory Conaway  wrote:

> 0-60 does not a track car make.  Most of these cars we are talking about
> can corner at about 1.1-1.2+gs.  That’s a big advantage on a race track.
> And they all weight a lot less than the Tesla will with the entire car
> designed for 1 thing, lower lap times.  If you want a race car, it’s going
> to drive like crap on the street.  If you want a drag car, it’s going to
> drive like crap on a road track.  If you want a car that can do all 3,
> that’s a compromise car.  The Tesla roadster is built for the street first,
> road race cars will beat it.  Drag only cars like a Demon will beat it in ¼
> mile when prepped, they are already hitting sub 9’s.
>
>
>
> But seriously, how many of us are going to spend $250K on a car.  I got
> hives thinking of spending $80K on a street Tesla.
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jason McKemie
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 8, 2018 3:41 PM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: This is pretty slick - that price tag though...
>
>
>
> How is a $500k gt more economical than a $250k Tesla? The Tesla is going
> to blow the doors off of the GT and the Corvette. The Tesla has a 0-60 of
> less than 2 seconds and a top end of 250mph.
>
> On Thursday, March 8, 2018, Travis Johnson  wrote:
>
> Normal insurance won't cover any vehicle on a race track. You have to buy
> specialized insurance, which I'm sure would be crazy expensive.
>
> It would be more economical to buy the new Ford GT350R ($500k) or the new
> Corvette Z06 ($120k)... mainly because they are the two fastest track cars
> available right now... even beating the Porsche 918 ($1 million).
>
> Travis
>
> On 3/8/2018 10:10 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>
> Maybe I could buy one and rent it out for $1K/day.  We do have a very nice
> race track nearby.
>
>
>
> *From:* Chuck McCown
>
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 08, 2018 10:00 AM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: This is pretty slick - that price tag though...
>
>
>
> Travis, want to do a fractional ownership thing with me on one of these???
>
>
>
> *From:* Travis Johnson
>
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 08, 2018 9:52 AM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: This is pretty slick - that price tag though...
>
>
>
> The only problem is the Roadster won't be shipping until 2020 or later...
> LOL
>
> Travis
>
> On 3/8/2018 9:24 AM, Cameron Crum wrote:
>
> No doubt about that. But, considering the specs on this car, it is cheap
> compared to other "super cars" with relatively similar (not much out there
> that can boast these specs) performance specifications. I've never been a
> big Tesla car fan as I don't think the company would have been successful
> on its own, but that is the car industry these days.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 10:01 AM, Robert  wrote:
>
> The Tesla is Elon's direct reach into the pockets of the wealthy to fund
> his businesses
>
> On 3/8/18 7:38 AM, Jon Lee wrote:
>
> This is more my style :)
> http://bollingermotors.com
>
> On Mar 7, 2018 5:16 PM, "Jason McKemie"  > wrote:
>
> https://www.tesla.com/roadster
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] grr - installing

[Mathew Howard]

Don't you just love it when people do three times as much work to do
something wrong, which then falls apart a month later, as it would've taken
to just do it right?

On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 6:25 PM, Steve Jones 
wrote:

> im filling in for installer, todays masterpieces i have come across
>
>
> the Ds with the self tappers in it amazes, me, they actually took the
> mount out of plumb and fastened it crooked
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT: This is pretty slick - that price tag though...

[Jason McKemie]

They're saying that as-is (with a 600+ mile range), the Roadster will be
around 4000lbs, compared to the GT's 3300 and the Z06's 3500. It's not too
hard to imagine a lower-range unit that is considerably lighter (the
batteries alone are supposed to be close to 1800lbs). Point taken on the
road car vs a track car, but that applies to all of these to some extent.
And yes, the price is pretty absurd, the Z06 is much more reasonable.

 If Tesla had a 300 mile range version that was track-tuned it would be
really hard to compete with I would think.

On Thursday, March 8, 2018, Rory Conaway  wrote:

> 0-60 does not a track car make.  Most of these cars we are talking about
> can corner at about 1.1-1.2+gs.  That’s a big advantage on a race track.
> And they all weight a lot less than the Tesla will with the entire car
> designed for 1 thing, lower lap times.  If you want a race car, it’s going
> to drive like crap on the street.  If you want a drag car, it’s going to
> drive like crap on a road track.  If you want a car that can do all 3,
> that’s a compromise car.  The Tesla roadster is built for the street first,
> road race cars will beat it.  Drag only cars like a Demon will beat it in ¼
> mile when prepped, they are already hitting sub 9’s.
>
>
>
> But seriously, how many of us are going to spend $250K on a car.  I got
> hives thinking of spending $80K on a street Tesla.
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jason McKemie
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 8, 2018 3:41 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: This is pretty slick - that price tag though...
>
>
>
> How is a $500k gt more economical than a $250k Tesla? The Tesla is going
> to blow the doors off of the GT and the Corvette. The Tesla has a 0-60 of
> less than 2 seconds and a top end of 250mph.
>
> On Thursday, March 8, 2018, Travis Johnson  wrote:
>
> Normal insurance won't cover any vehicle on a race track. You have to buy
> specialized insurance, which I'm sure would be crazy expensive.
>
> It would be more economical to buy the new Ford GT350R ($500k) or the new
> Corvette Z06 ($120k)... mainly because they are the two fastest track cars
> available right now... even beating the Porsche 918 ($1 million).
>
> Travis
>
> On 3/8/2018 10:10 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>
> Maybe I could buy one and rent it out for $1K/day.  We do have a very nice
> race track nearby.
>
>
>
> *From:* Chuck McCown
>
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 08, 2018 10:00 AM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: This is pretty slick - that price tag though...
>
>
>
> Travis, want to do a fractional ownership thing with me on one of these???
>
>
>
> *From:* Travis Johnson
>
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 08, 2018 9:52 AM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: This is pretty slick - that price tag though...
>
>
>
> The only problem is the Roadster won't be shipping until 2020 or later...
> LOL
>
> Travis
>
> On 3/8/2018 9:24 AM, Cameron Crum wrote:
>
> No doubt about that. But, considering the specs on this car, it is cheap
> compared to other "super cars" with relatively similar (not much out there
> that can boast these specs) performance specifications. I've never been a
> big Tesla car fan as I don't think the company would have been successful
> on its own, but that is the car industry these days.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 10:01 AM, Robert  wrote:
>
> The Tesla is Elon's direct reach into the pockets of the wealthy to fund
> his businesses
>
> On 3/8/18 7:38 AM, Jon Lee wrote:
>
> This is more my style :)
> http://bollingermotors.com
>
> On Mar 7, 2018 5:16 PM, "Jason McKemie"  > wrote:
>
> https://www.tesla.com/roadster
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Animal Farm Summer 2018

[Steve Jones]

Heh

On Mar 8, 2018 5:42 PM, "George Skorup"  wrote:

> Nope. Asshole is short for George. Or so I'm told.
>
> On 3/8/2018 3:28 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>
> http://www.whatsinaname.net/male-names/Geo.html
>
> Probably an old fart thing.
>
> *From:* Mathew Howard
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 08, 2018 2:12 PM
> *To:* af
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Animal Farm Summer 2018
>
> I don't recall ever having heard anyone refer to George Washington as Geo
> before... but I did know that Geo is the diminutive of George...
>
> On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 2:46 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
>> Geo is the diminutive of George.
>>
>> Geo Washington but I guess Canadians don’t know this kind of
>> stuff..   ;-)
>>
>> *From:* Colin Stanners
>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 08, 2018 1:27 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Animal Farm Summer 2018
>>
>> Who is "Geo Orwell", or is that the hip peoples' way to refer to the
>> author?
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 1:58 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>>
>>> Registration is now open:
>>> http://www.afmug.com/
>>>
>>> The sponsor info is old, but maybe they will all offer to sponsor.
>>> Really, trying to get Ditchwitch, Vermeer, Preformed Line Products etc
>>> to sponsor as that is the kind of stuff we will be discussing.
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT: This is pretty slick - that price tag though...

[Bill Prince]

Good point. Teslas are heavy. With all the torque they have straight line
acceleration they can do. Probably not worth a crap on corners; I've never
heard what kind of cornering they can do, and 1.1 Gs would be a significant
hurdle. OTOH, all that weight is mostly under the floor, so their CG would
be very close to the ground.

--
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com

On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 4:07 PM, Rory Conaway  wrote:

> 0-60 does not a track car make.  Most of these cars we are talking about
> can corner at about 1.1-1.2+gs.  That’s a big advantage on a race track.
> And they all weight a lot less than the Tesla will with the entire car
> designed for 1 thing, lower lap times.  If you want a race car, it’s going
> to drive like crap on the street.  If you want a drag car, it’s going to
> drive like crap on a road track.  If you want a car that can do all 3,
> that’s a compromise car.  The Tesla roadster is built for the street first,
> road race cars will beat it.  Drag only cars like a Demon will beat it in ¼
> mile when prepped, they are already hitting sub 9’s.
>
>
>
> But seriously, how many of us are going to spend $250K on a car.  I got
> hives thinking of spending $80K on a street Tesla.
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jason McKemie
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 8, 2018 3:41 PM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: This is pretty slick - that price tag though...
>
>
>
> How is a $500k gt more economical than a $250k Tesla? The Tesla is going
> to blow the doors off of the GT and the Corvette. The Tesla has a 0-60 of
> less than 2 seconds and a top end of 250mph.
>
> On Thursday, March 8, 2018, Travis Johnson  wrote:
>
> Normal insurance won't cover any vehicle on a race track. You have to buy
> specialized insurance, which I'm sure would be crazy expensive.
>
> It would be more economical to buy the new Ford GT350R ($500k) or the new
> Corvette Z06 ($120k)... mainly because they are the two fastest track cars
> available right now... even beating the Porsche 918 ($1 million).
>
> Travis
>
> On 3/8/2018 10:10 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>
> Maybe I could buy one and rent it out for $1K/day.  We do have a very nice
> race track nearby.
>
>
>
> *From:* Chuck McCown
>
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 08, 2018 10:00 AM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: This is pretty slick - that price tag though...
>
>
>
> Travis, want to do a fractional ownership thing with me on one of these???
>
>
>
> *From:* Travis Johnson
>
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 08, 2018 9:52 AM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: This is pretty slick - that price tag though...
>
>
>
> The only problem is the Roadster won't be shipping until 2020 or later...
> LOL
>
> Travis
>
> On 3/8/2018 9:24 AM, Cameron Crum wrote:
>
> No doubt about that. But, considering the specs on this car, it is cheap
> compared to other "super cars" with relatively similar (not much out there
> that can boast these specs) performance specifications. I've never been a
> big Tesla car fan as I don't think the company would have been successful
> on its own, but that is the car industry these days.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 10:01 AM, Robert  wrote:
>
> The Tesla is Elon's direct reach into the pockets of the wealthy to fund
> his businesses
>
> On 3/8/18 7:38 AM, Jon Lee wrote:
>
> This is more my style :)
> http://bollingermotors.com
>
> On Mar 7, 2018 5:16 PM, "Jason McKemie"  > wrote:
>
> https://www.tesla.com/roadster
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Animal Farm Summer 2018

[Bill Prince]

and all this time I thought asshole was short for Bill.

--
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com

On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 3:42 PM, George Skorup 
wrote:

> Nope. Asshole is short for George. Or so I'm told.
>
> On 3/8/2018 3:28 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>
> http://www.whatsinaname.net/male-names/Geo.html
>
> Probably an old fart thing.
>
> *From:* Mathew Howard
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 08, 2018 2:12 PM
> *To:* af
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Animal Farm Summer 2018
>
> I don't recall ever having heard anyone refer to George Washington as Geo
> before... but I did know that Geo is the diminutive of George...
>
> On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 2:46 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
>> Geo is the diminutive of George.
>>
>> Geo Washington but I guess Canadians don’t know this kind of
>> stuff..   ;-)
>>
>> *From:* Colin Stanners
>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 08, 2018 1:27 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Animal Farm Summer 2018
>>
>> Who is "Geo Orwell", or is that the hip peoples' way to refer to the
>> author?
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 1:58 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>>
>>> Registration is now open:
>>> http://www.afmug.com/
>>>
>>> The sponsor info is old, but maybe they will all offer to sponsor.
>>> Really, trying to get Ditchwitch, Vermeer, Preformed Line Products etc
>>> to sponsor as that is the kind of stuff we will be discussing.
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Epmp 3000

[Steve Jones]

is that after the 450 firmware for the fsk side of the radio?

On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 4:16 PM, Darin Steffl 
wrote:

> Josh,
>
> Force 300 DOES work on epmp 1k and 2k. It will require a firmware update
> in the next 1-2 months but it absolutely WILL connect to the 1k and 2k
> AP's. That's been confirmed a few times already in Cambium forums and
> partner docs.
>
> On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 3:49 PM, Josh Luthman 
> wrote:
>
>> Double throughput is 4x4 which requires Force 300 CPE.
>>
>> Force 300 CPE doesn't work on epmp1000/2000 ap =(
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> 
>> Suite 1337
>> 
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> 
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 11:08 AM, Steve Jones 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> " Roughly doubles available throughout on ap"
>>> in the same channel size?
>>> I can double the throughput right now by going from 20 to 40mhz
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 9:11 AM, Joe Novak  wrote:
>>>
 Mu-mimo will not work with n based radios, but besides that they will
 work with the new AP is how I took it.

 On Mar 7, 2018 9:04 AM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" 
 wrote:

> Coming soon
>
> Roughly doubles available throughout on ap
>
> If I heard right won't work with elevate
>
> Ac based chipset
>
> Haven't heard frequencies or available dates yet
>
>
>
> Sent from my smartphone
>
>
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Darin Steffl
> Minnesota WiFi
> www.mnwifi.com
> 507-634-WiFi
>  Like us on Facebook
> 
>

Re: [AFMUG] It's on

[Mitch Koep]

What kind of present? cash trip lol


On 3/8/2018 1:30 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

If you present, they will come
*From:* Gino A. Villarini
*Sent:* Thursday, March 08, 2018 12:11 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] It's on
What? No Wi-Gig / Wi-PON
From: Af  on behalf of Chuck McCown 


Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
Date: Thursday, March 8, 2018 at 2:29 PM
To: "af@afmug.com" 
Subject: [AFMUG] It's on
June 12 & 13 AnimalFarm
I even have vendors tracking me down here at WISPAmerica wanting to 
sponsor.
Going to start to put together the agenda. Very short sessions like 
always.

Need the crowd to evolve this thing.
Day 1:
Fiber theory, channels, band plan
SFPs
Passive mux
CWDM DWDM
FTTH network topology
��� GPON
��� AE
Pros and cons
OSP Network Components
��� Costs and Features
��� Cable
��� Conduit
��� Handholes
��� Splice Cases
��� Splitters
Cabinets
��� Cross boxes
��� Electronics
��� Powering and cooling
Fiber
��� Splicing
��� Connectors
��� Engineering considerations
��� Costs
NOC
��� MT FTTH in a box solution
Day 2:� Hands On
HDD operations
Vacuum Excavators
Hole Hawg and other missiles
Underground location
Eating mass quantities of dead animals.

*//*

*/Gino A. Villarini/*

President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

Re: [AFMUG] OT: This is pretty slick - that price tag though...

[Rory Conaway]

0-60 does not a track car make.  Most of these cars we are talking about can 
corner at about 1.1-1.2+gs.  That’s a big advantage on a race track.  And they 
all weight a lot less than the Tesla will with the entire car designed for 1 
thing, lower lap times.  If you want a race car, it’s going to drive like crap 
on the street.  If you want a drag car, it’s going to drive like crap on a road 
track.  If you want a car that can do all 3, that’s a compromise car.  The 
Tesla roadster is built for the street first, road race cars will beat it.  
Drag only cars like a Demon will beat it in ¼ mile when prepped, they are 
already hitting sub 9’s.

But seriously, how many of us are going to spend $250K on a car.  I got hives 
thinking of spending $80K on a street Tesla.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jason McKemie
Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2018 3:41 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: This is pretty slick - that price tag though...

How is a $500k gt more economical than a $250k Tesla? The Tesla is going to 
blow the doors off of the GT and the Corvette. The Tesla has a 0-60 of less 
than 2 seconds and a top end of 250mph.

On Thursday, March 8, 2018, Travis Johnson > 
wrote:
Normal insurance won't cover any vehicle on a race track. You have to buy 
specialized insurance, which I'm sure would be crazy expensive.

It would be more economical to buy the new Ford GT350R ($500k) or the new 
Corvette Z06 ($120k)... mainly because they are the two fastest track cars 
available right now... even beating the Porsche 918 ($1 million).

Travis

On 3/8/2018 10:10 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
Maybe I could buy one and rent it out for $1K/day.  We do have a very nice race 
track nearby.

From: Chuck McCown
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2018 10:00 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: This is pretty slick - that price tag though...

Travis, want to do a fractional ownership thing with me on one of these???

From: Travis Johnson
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2018 9:52 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: This is pretty slick - that price tag though...

The only problem is the Roadster won't be shipping until 2020 or later... LOL

Travis

On 3/8/2018 9:24 AM, Cameron Crum wrote:
No doubt about that. But, considering the specs on this car, it is cheap 
compared to other "super cars" with relatively similar (not much out there that 
can boast these specs) performance specifications. I've never been a big Tesla 
car fan as I don't think the company would have been successful on its own, but 
that is the car industry these days.

On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 10:01 AM, Robert 
> wrote:
The Tesla is Elon's direct reach into the pockets of the wealthy to fund his 
businesses

On 3/8/18 7:38 AM, Jon Lee wrote:
This is more my style :)
http://bollingermotors.com

On Mar 7, 2018 5:16 PM, "Jason McKemie" >>
 wrote:

https://www.tesla.com/roadster

Re: [AFMUG] Epmp 3000

[Gino A. Villarini]

A 4x4 AC mimo AP should be able to talk to 2 2x2N subs … at least in WIFI world…

From: Af > on behalf of Josh 
Luthman >
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
>
Date: Thursday, March 8, 2018 at 5:49 PM
To: "af@afmug.com" >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp 3000

Double throughput is 4x4 which requires Force 300 CPE.

Force 300 CPE doesn't work on epmp1000/2000 ap =(


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373




Gino A. Villarini


President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

[cid:aeronet-logo_310cfc3e-6691-4f69-bd49-b37b834b9238.png]

On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 11:08 AM, Steve Jones 
> wrote:
" Roughly doubles available throughout on ap"
in the same channel size?
I can double the throughput right now by going from 20 to 40mhz

On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 9:11 AM, Joe Novak 
> wrote:
Mu-mimo will not work with n based radios, but besides that they will work with 
the new AP is how I took it.

On Mar 7, 2018 9:04 AM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" 
> wrote:
Coming soon

Roughly doubles available throughout on ap

If I heard right won't work with elevate

Ac based chipset

Haven't heard frequencies or available dates yet



Sent from my smartphone

Re: [AFMUG] Animal Farm Summer 2018

[George Skorup]

Nope. Asshole is short for George. Or so I'm told.

On 3/8/2018 3:28 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

http://www.whatsinaname.net/male-names/Geo.html
Probably an old fart thing.
*From:* Mathew Howard
*Sent:* Thursday, March 08, 2018 2:12 PM
*To:* af
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Animal Farm Summer 2018
I don't recall ever having heard anyone refer to George Washington as 
Geo before... but I did know that Geo is the diminutive of George...

On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 2:46 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

Geo is the diminutive of George.
Geo Washington but I guess Canadians don’t know this kind of
stuff..   ;-)
*From:* Colin Stanners
*Sent:* Thursday, March 08, 2018 1:27 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Animal Farm Summer 2018
Who is "Geo Orwell", or is that the hip peoples' way to refer to
the author?
On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 1:58 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

Registration is now open:
http://www.afmug.com/
The sponsor info is old, but maybe they will all offer to
sponsor.
Really, trying to get Ditchwitch, Vermeer, Preformed Line
Products etc to sponsor as that is the kind of stuff we will
be discussing.

Re: [AFMUG] It's on

[Jon Langeler]

Who cares. Good excuse for a mid summer vacation 

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.


> On Mar 8, 2018, at 3:26 PM, Colin Stanners  wrote:
> 
> AnimalFarm has always been a great conference: very fun, inexpensive, great 
> people and insight, and it helped me gain a massive amount of experience / 
> knowledge / connections in the WISP industry. You could see that Chuck and 
> his crew had the dedication and organization to make things happen.
> 
> But winter AnimalFarm was a good excuse to get out of my cold province during 
> the winters; that doesn't apply to June. Decisions...
> 
> 
>> On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 12:29 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>> June 12 & 13 AnimalFarm
>>  
>> I even have vendors tracking me down here at WISPAmerica wanting to sponsor. 
>>  
>> Going to start to put together the agenda.  Very short sessions like always.
>> Need the crowd to evolve this thing.
>>  
>> Day 1:
>> Fiber theory, channels, band plan
>> SFPs
>> Passive mux
>> CWDM DWDM
>>   
>> FTTH network topology   
>> GPON
>> AE
>> Pros and cons
>>  
>> OSP Network Components
>> Costs and Features
>> Cable
>> Conduit
>> Handholes
>> Splice Cases
>> Splitters
>>  
>> Cabinets
>> Cross boxes
>> Electronics
>> Powering and cooling
>>  
>> Fiber
>> Splicing
>> Connectors
>> Engineering considerations
>> Costs
>>  
>> NOC   
>> MT FTTH in a box solution
>>  
>> Day 2:  Hands On
>> HDD operations
>> Vacuum Excavators
>> Hole Hawg and other missiles
>> Underground location
>> Eating mass quantities of dead animals.
>>  
>>  
>>  
> 

Re: [AFMUG] OT: This is pretty slick - that price tag though...

[Jason McKemie]

How is a $500k gt more economical than a $250k Tesla? The Tesla is going to
blow the doors off of the GT and the Corvette. The Tesla has a 0-60 of less
than 2 seconds and a top end of 250mph.

On Thursday, March 8, 2018, Travis Johnson  wrote:

> Normal insurance won't cover any vehicle on a race track. You have to buy
> specialized insurance, which I'm sure would be crazy expensive.
>
> It would be more economical to buy the new Ford GT350R ($500k) or the new
> Corvette Z06 ($120k)... mainly because they are the two fastest track cars
> available right now... even beating the Porsche 918 ($1 million).
>
> Travis
>
>
> On 3/8/2018 10:10 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>
> Maybe I could buy one and rent it out for $1K/day.  We do have a very nice
> race track nearby.
>
> *From:* Chuck McCown
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 08, 2018 10:00 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: This is pretty slick - that price tag though...
>
> Travis, want to do a fractional ownership thing with me on one of these???
>
> *From:* Travis Johnson
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 08, 2018 9:52 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: This is pretty slick - that price tag though...
>
> The only problem is the Roadster won't be shipping until 2020 or later...
> LOL
>
> Travis
>
>
> On 3/8/2018 9:24 AM, Cameron Crum wrote:
>
> No doubt about that. But, considering the specs on this car, it is cheap
> compared to other "super cars" with relatively similar (not much out there
> that can boast these specs) performance specifications. I've never been a
> big Tesla car fan as I don't think the company would have been successful
> on its own, but that is the car industry these days.
>
> On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 10:01 AM, Robert  wrote:
>
>> The Tesla is Elon's direct reach into the pockets of the wealthy to fund
>> his businesses
>>
>> On 3/8/18 7:38 AM, Jon Lee wrote:
>>
>>> This is more my style :)
>>> http://bollingermotors.com
>>>
>>> On Mar 7, 2018 5:16 PM, "Jason McKemie" >> com > wrote:
>>>
>>> https://www.tesla.com/roadster
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT: This is pretty slick - that price tag though...

[Darin Steffl]

I have a 2017 Camaro ZL1 with the 10-speed auto and this thing SCREAMS!!

Very fast, faster than every other car at Speedvegas when I was there.

On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 4:05 PM, Rory Conaway  wrote:

> The ACR and GT350r are about as close to track cars as you can buy under
> $140K.  I think he meant the Ford GT though, not the 350r.  Even the new
> Camaro ZL1 1LE is a pretty hot track car.  Me, I’m going to have to live
> with my 240sx Lemons car.  This way when it gets wrecked on the track, it’s
> only $5K to replace it.
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 8, 2018 2:46 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: This is pretty slick - that price tag though...
>
>
>
> Dodge Viper ACR smokes the GT350r (65k often with 40k markup, not sure
> where you see 500k) and Z06 road cars.  None of them are track cars.
>
>
>
> 918 is faster than the ACR on the track by a good 5 seconds.
>
>
>
> HPDE insurance isn't crazy expensive - a single day is $300 and if you
> bundle a handful of events it drops pretty steeply.
>
>
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
> 1100 Wayne St
> 
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 12:59 PM, Travis Johnson  wrote:
>
> Normal insurance won't cover any vehicle on a race track. You have to buy
> specialized insurance, which I'm sure would be crazy expensive.
>
> It would be more economical to buy the new Ford GT350R ($500k) or the new
> Corvette Z06 ($120k)... mainly because they are the two fastest track cars
> available right now... even beating the Porsche 918 ($1 million).
>
> Travis
>
> On 3/8/2018 10:10 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>
> Maybe I could buy one and rent it out for $1K/day.  We do have a very nice
> race track nearby.
>
>
>
> *From:* Chuck McCown
>
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 08, 2018 10:00 AM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: This is pretty slick - that price tag though...
>
>
>
> Travis, want to do a fractional ownership thing with me on one of these???
>
>
>
> *From:* Travis Johnson
>
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 08, 2018 9:52 AM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: This is pretty slick - that price tag though...
>
>
>
> The only problem is the Roadster won't be shipping until 2020 or later...
> LOL
>
> Travis
>
> On 3/8/2018 9:24 AM, Cameron Crum wrote:
>
> No doubt about that. But, considering the specs on this car, it is cheap
> compared to other "super cars" with relatively similar (not much out there
> that can boast these specs) performance specifications. I've never been a
> big Tesla car fan as I don't think the company would have been successful
> on its own, but that is the car industry these days.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 10:01 AM, Robert  wrote:
>
> The Tesla is Elon's direct reach into the pockets of the wealthy to fund
> his businesses
>
> On 3/8/18 7:38 AM, Jon Lee wrote:
>
> This is more my style :)
> http://bollingermotors.com
>
> On Mar 7, 2018 5:16 PM, "Jason McKemie"  > wrote:
>
> https://www.tesla.com/roadster
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>



-- 
Darin Steffl
Minnesota WiFi
www.mnwifi.com
507-634-WiFi
 Like us on Facebook

Re: [AFMUG] Epmp 3000

[Darin Steffl]

Josh,

Force 300 DOES work on epmp 1k and 2k. It will require a firmware update in
the next 1-2 months but it absolutely WILL connect to the 1k and 2k AP's.
That's been confirmed a few times already in Cambium forums and partner
docs.

On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 3:49 PM, Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> Double throughput is 4x4 which requires Force 300 CPE.
>
> Force 300 CPE doesn't work on epmp1000/2000 ap =(
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
> 1100 Wayne St
> 
> Suite 1337
> 
> Troy, OH 45373
> 
>
> On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 11:08 AM, Steve Jones 
> wrote:
>
>> " Roughly doubles available throughout on ap"
>> in the same channel size?
>> I can double the throughput right now by going from 20 to 40mhz
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 9:11 AM, Joe Novak  wrote:
>>
>>> Mu-mimo will not work with n based radios, but besides that they will
>>> work with the new AP is how I took it.
>>>
>>> On Mar 7, 2018 9:04 AM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Coming soon

 Roughly doubles available throughout on ap

 If I heard right won't work with elevate

 Ac based chipset

 Haven't heard frequencies or available dates yet



 Sent from my smartphone


>>
>


-- 
Darin Steffl
Minnesota WiFi
www.mnwifi.com
507-634-WiFi
 Like us on Facebook

Re: [AFMUG] OT: This is pretty slick - that price tag though...

[Rory Conaway]

The ACR and GT350r are about as close to track cars as you can buy under $140K. 
 I think he meant the Ford GT though, not the 350r.  Even the new Camaro ZL1 
1LE is a pretty hot track car.  Me, I’m going to have to live with my 240sx 
Lemons car.  This way when it gets wrecked on the track, it’s only $5K to 
replace it.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2018 2:46 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: This is pretty slick - that price tag though...

Dodge Viper ACR smokes the GT350r (65k often with 40k markup, not sure where 
you see 500k) and Z06 road cars.  None of them are track cars.

918 is faster than the ACR on the track by a good 5 seconds.

HPDE insurance isn't crazy expensive - a single day is $300 and if you bundle a 
handful of events it drops pretty steeply.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 12:59 PM, Travis Johnson 
> wrote:
Normal insurance won't cover any vehicle on a race track. You have to buy 
specialized insurance, which I'm sure would be crazy expensive.

It would be more economical to buy the new Ford GT350R ($500k) or the new 
Corvette Z06 ($120k)... mainly because they are the two fastest track cars 
available right now... even beating the Porsche 918 ($1 million).

Travis

On 3/8/2018 10:10 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
Maybe I could buy one and rent it out for $1K/day.  We do have a very nice race 
track nearby.

From: Chuck McCown
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2018 10:00 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: This is pretty slick - that price tag though...

Travis, want to do a fractional ownership thing with me on one of these???

From: Travis Johnson
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2018 9:52 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: This is pretty slick - that price tag though...

The only problem is the Roadster won't be shipping until 2020 or later... LOL

Travis

On 3/8/2018 9:24 AM, Cameron Crum wrote:
No doubt about that. But, considering the specs on this car, it is cheap 
compared to other "super cars" with relatively similar (not much out there that 
can boast these specs) performance specifications. I've never been a big Tesla 
car fan as I don't think the company would have been successful on its own, but 
that is the car industry these days.

On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 10:01 AM, Robert 
> wrote:
The Tesla is Elon's direct reach into the pockets of the wealthy to fund his 
businesses

On 3/8/18 7:38 AM, Jon Lee wrote:
This is more my style :)
http://bollingermotors.com

On Mar 7, 2018 5:16 PM, "Jason McKemie" >>
 wrote:

https://www.tesla.com/roadster

Re: [AFMUG] AnimalFarm Summer Session

[Chuck McCown]

Plenty of room for camping.  

-Original Message- 
From: Robert 
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2018 2:39 PM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AnimalFarm Summer Session 

Can I order a 50 Gallon Barrel of that stuff?   I'll pick it up in 
June...Is there any arrangements for truck camping?I'll bring 
the power wagon if there is...

Thanks!

On 3/8/18 1:21 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
> Donation.
> Thanks to:
> *Robert Andrews *
> **
> As the first official registrant.
> All registrants will receive this special vial of super blessed antenna 
> water that will double the throughput of any wifi system!
> *From:* Kurt Fankhauser
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 08, 2018 1:52 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AnimalFarm Summer Session
> How much is cost to attend? Or is it BYOB ?
> On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 11:32 AM, Cameron Crum  wrote:
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvJN2VPu6no
> 
> On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 8:14 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
> 
> Oh and eating mass quantities of smoked dead animals on day 2 as
> well.
> *From:* Chuck McCown
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 08, 2018 7:10 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* AnimalFarm Summer Session
> Second week of June.
> Day 1 in a hotel meeting room near SLC Airport.
> Day 2 my place about 15 minutes West of the SLC Airport.
> Tentative Topics
> Fiber topology and system design options
> Splicing
> Materials
> Equipment
> System Costs
> Horizontal Directional Drilling operation
> Vacuum Excavation operation
> Vibratory plow
> Splicing Trailers
> Trenching
> Missile/Hole Hawg
> Going to try to get Ditch Witch and Vermeer to bring their toys.
> But if the don’t want to do that I have my own. 
> 

Re: [AFMUG] Epmp 3000

[Josh Luthman]

Double throughput is 4x4 which requires Force 300 CPE.

Force 300 CPE doesn't work on epmp1000/2000 ap =(


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 11:08 AM, Steve Jones 
wrote:

> " Roughly doubles available throughout on ap"
> in the same channel size?
> I can double the throughput right now by going from 20 to 40mhz
>
> On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 9:11 AM, Joe Novak  wrote:
>
>> Mu-mimo will not work with n based radios, but besides that they will
>> work with the new AP is how I took it.
>>
>> On Mar 7, 2018 9:04 AM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Coming soon
>>>
>>> Roughly doubles available throughout on ap
>>>
>>> If I heard right won't work with elevate
>>>
>>> Ac based chipset
>>>
>>> Haven't heard frequencies or available dates yet
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my smartphone
>>>
>>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT: This is pretty slick - that price tag though...

[Josh Luthman]

Dodge Viper ACR smokes the GT350r (65k often with 40k markup, not sure
where you see 500k) and Z06 road cars.  None of them are track cars.

918 is faster than the ACR on the track by a good 5 seconds.

HPDE insurance isn't crazy expensive - a single day is $300 and if you
bundle a handful of events it drops pretty steeply.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 12:59 PM, Travis Johnson  wrote:

> Normal insurance won't cover any vehicle on a race track. You have to buy
> specialized insurance, which I'm sure would be crazy expensive.
>
> It would be more economical to buy the new Ford GT350R ($500k) or the new
> Corvette Z06 ($120k)... mainly because they are the two fastest track cars
> available right now... even beating the Porsche 918 ($1 million).
>
> Travis
>
>
> On 3/8/2018 10:10 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>
> Maybe I could buy one and rent it out for $1K/day.  We do have a very nice
> race track nearby.
>
> *From:* Chuck McCown
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 08, 2018 10:00 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: This is pretty slick - that price tag though...
>
> Travis, want to do a fractional ownership thing with me on one of these???
>
> *From:* Travis Johnson
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 08, 2018 9:52 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: This is pretty slick - that price tag though...
>
> The only problem is the Roadster won't be shipping until 2020 or later...
> LOL
>
> Travis
>
>
> On 3/8/2018 9:24 AM, Cameron Crum wrote:
>
> No doubt about that. But, considering the specs on this car, it is cheap
> compared to other "super cars" with relatively similar (not much out there
> that can boast these specs) performance specifications. I've never been a
> big Tesla car fan as I don't think the company would have been successful
> on its own, but that is the car industry these days.
>
> On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 10:01 AM, Robert  wrote:
>
>> The Tesla is Elon's direct reach into the pockets of the wealthy to fund
>> his businesses
>>
>> On 3/8/18 7:38 AM, Jon Lee wrote:
>>
>>> This is more my style :)
>>> http://bollingermotors.com
>>>
>>> On Mar 7, 2018 5:16 PM, "Jason McKemie" >> com > wrote:
>>>
>>> https://www.tesla.com/roadster
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT: This is pretty slick - that price tag though...

[Josh Luthman]

2020???  We're still waiting on general availability of the Model 3!


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 11:52 AM, Travis Johnson  wrote:

> The only problem is the Roadster won't be shipping until 2020 or later...
> LOL
>
> Travis
>
>
> On 3/8/2018 9:24 AM, Cameron Crum wrote:
>
> No doubt about that. But, considering the specs on this car, it is cheap
> compared to other "super cars" with relatively similar (not much out there
> that can boast these specs) performance specifications. I've never been a
> big Tesla car fan as I don't think the company would have been successful
> on its own, but that is the car industry these days.
>
> On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 10:01 AM, Robert  wrote:
>
>> The Tesla is Elon's direct reach into the pockets of the wealthy to fund
>> his businesses
>>
>> On 3/8/18 7:38 AM, Jon Lee wrote:
>>
>>> This is more my style :)
>>> http://bollingermotors.com
>>>
>>> On Mar 7, 2018 5:16 PM, "Jason McKemie" >> com > wrote:
>>>
>>> https://www.tesla.com/roadster
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] AnimalFarm Summer Session

[Robert]

Can I order a 50 Gallon Barrel of that stuff?   I'll pick it up in 
June...Is there any arrangements for truck camping?I'll bring 
the power wagon if there is...


Thanks!

On 3/8/18 1:21 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

Donation.
Thanks to:
*Robert Andrews *
**
As the first official registrant.
All registrants will receive this special vial of super blessed antenna 
water that will double the throughput of any wifi system!

*From:* Kurt Fankhauser
*Sent:* Thursday, March 08, 2018 1:52 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AnimalFarm Summer Session
How much is cost to attend? Or is it BYOB ?
On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 11:32 AM, Cameron Crum  wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvJN2VPu6no

On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 8:14 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

Oh and eating mass quantities of smoked dead animals on day 2 as
well.
*From:* Chuck McCown
*Sent:* Thursday, March 08, 2018 7:10 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* AnimalFarm Summer Session
Second week of June.
Day 1 in a hotel meeting room near SLC Airport.
Day 2 my place about 15 minutes West of the SLC Airport.
Tentative Topics
Fiber topology and system design options
Splicing
Materials
Equipment
System Costs
Horizontal Directional Drilling operation
Vacuum Excavation operation
Vibratory plow
Splicing Trailers
Trenching
Missile/Hole Hawg
Going to try to get Ditch Witch and Vermeer to bring their toys.
But if the don’t want to do that I have my own. 

Re: [AFMUG] Animal Farm Summer 2018

[Chuck McCown]

http://www.whatsinaname.net/male-names/Geo.html

Probably an old fart thing.  

From: Mathew Howard 
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2018 2:12 PM
To: af 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Animal Farm Summer 2018

I don't recall ever having heard anyone refer to George Washington as Geo 
before... but I did know that Geo is the diminutive of George...


On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 2:46 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

  Geo is the diminutive of George.  

  Geo Washington but I guess Canadians don’t know this kind of stuff..   ;-)

  From: Colin Stanners 
  Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2018 1:27 PM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Animal Farm Summer 2018

  Who is "Geo Orwell", or is that the hip peoples' way to refer to the author?


  On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 1:58 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

Registration is now open:
http://www.afmug.com/

The sponsor info is old, but maybe they will all offer to sponsor.  
Really, trying to get Ditchwitch, Vermeer, Preformed Line Products etc to 
sponsor as that is the kind of stuff we will be discussing.  

Re: [AFMUG] ubnt - rese

[Joe Novak]

I've had it running on a sector array since the beta. I don't know that I
have a good measure of how it's working, but, it's not generating support
calls.


Joe

On Mar 8, 2018 9:11 AM, "Keefe John"  wrote:

> This has been or in beta for awhile. It works well, especially on uplink.
>
> Keefe
>
> On March 8, 2018 8:37:05 AM CST, CBB - Jay Fuller <
> par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:
>>
>> Custom code to better nagivate interference released today in airmax ac
>> products
>>
>> I don't remember seeing this in the beta line...anyone played with it?
>>
>> Sent from my smartphone
>>
>>
> --
> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
>

Re: [AFMUG] AnimalFarm Summer Session

[Chuck McCown]

Donation.

Thanks to:

Robert Andrews 

 
As the first official registrant.

All registrants will receive this special vial of super blessed antenna water 
that will double the throughput of any wifi system!

From: Kurt Fankhauser 
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2018 1:52 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AnimalFarm Summer Session

How much is cost to attend? Or is it BYOB ?

On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 11:32 AM, Cameron Crum  wrote:

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvJN2VPu6no


  On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 8:14 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

Oh and eating mass quantities of smoked dead animals on day 2 as well.

From: Chuck McCown 
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2018 7:10 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: AnimalFarm Summer Session

Second week of June.
Day 1 in a hotel meeting room near SLC Airport.
Day 2 my place about 15 minutes West of the SLC Airport.

Tentative Topics
Fiber topology and system design options
Splicing
Materials
Equipment
System Costs

Horizontal Directional Drilling operation
Vacuum Excavation operation
Vibratory plow
Splicing Trailers
Trenching
Missile/Hole Hawg

Going to try to get Ditch Witch and Vermeer to bring their toys.
But if the don’t want to do that I have my own.  

Re: [AFMUG] OT: This is pretty slick - that price tag though...

[Steve D]

I still believe the same could be said about the modern smart phone...

-Steve D

On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 11:43 AM, Bill Prince  wrote:

> That is one major ding against the Model 3; too many things incorporated
> into that massive monitor, including things that would be much simpler with
> a simple switch or two (or three or four). Not sure how that passed any
> usability tests. I would have made it smaller, or tried to figure out how
> to blend it better.
>
> --
> bp
> part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
>
> On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 11:30 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
>> I would buy one, except I don’t want a car with a freaking TV bolted to
>> the dashboard.
>>
>> *From:* Bill Prince
>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 08, 2018 12:19 PM
>> *To:* Motorola III
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: This is pretty slick - that price tag
>> though...
>>
>> I know it's easy to bash Elon; he's not my favorite human by any stretch.
>> However, if these latest delivery numbers are accurate, the Model 3 is
>> beginning to crush the rest of the electric car market.
>>
>> https://cleantechnica.com/2018/03/05/tesla-model-3-wins-febr
>> uary-despite-production-woes-electric-car-sales-dim-usa/
>>
>> -bp
>>
>> --
>> bp
>> part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 10:20 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>>
>>> But there is sumpin’ special about Tesla.
>>>
>>> I can go drive a GT out there any time I want to pay the fee on the day
>>> they do their training days.
>>> Can’t do that with Tesla... yet...
>>>
>>> *From:* Travis Johnson
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 08, 2018 10:59 AM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: This is pretty slick - that price tag
>>> though...
>>>
>>> Normal insurance won't cover any vehicle on a race track. You have to
>>> buy specialized insurance, which I'm sure would be crazy expensive.
>>>
>>> It would be more economical to buy the new Ford GT350R ($500k) or the
>>> new Corvette Z06 ($120k)... mainly because they are the two fastest track
>>> cars available right now... even beating the Porsche 918 ($1 million).
>>>
>>> Travis
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/8/2018 10:10 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>>
>>> Maybe I could buy one and rent it out for $1K/day.  We do have a very
>>> nice race track nearby.
>>>
>>> *From:* Chuck McCown
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 08, 2018 10:00 AM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: This is pretty slick - that price tag
>>> though...
>>>
>>> Travis, want to do a fractional ownership thing with me on one of
>>> these???
>>>
>>> *From:* Travis Johnson
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 08, 2018 9:52 AM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: This is pretty slick - that price tag
>>> though...
>>>
>>> The only problem is the Roadster won't be shipping until 2020 or
>>> later... LOL
>>>
>>> Travis
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/8/2018 9:24 AM, Cameron Crum wrote:
>>>
>>> No doubt about that. But, considering the specs on this car, it is cheap
>>> compared to other "super cars" with relatively similar (not much out there
>>> that can boast these specs) performance specifications. I've never been a
>>> big Tesla car fan as I don't think the company would have been successful
>>> on its own, but that is the car industry these days.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 10:01 AM, Robert  wrote:
>>>
 The Tesla is Elon's direct reach into the pockets of the wealthy to
 fund his businesses

 On 3/8/18 7:38 AM, Jon Lee wrote:

> This is more my style :)
> http://bollingermotors.com
>
> On Mar 7, 2018 5:16 PM, "Jason McKemie"  com > wrote:
>
> https://www.tesla.com/roadster
>
>
>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Animal Farm Summer 2018

[Mathew Howard]

I don't recall ever having heard anyone refer to George Washington as Geo
before... but I did know that Geo is the diminutive of George...

On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 2:46 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> Geo is the diminutive of George.
>
> Geo Washington but I guess Canadians don’t know this kind of stuff..
> ;-)
>
> *From:* Colin Stanners
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 08, 2018 1:27 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Animal Farm Summer 2018
>
> Who is "Geo Orwell", or is that the hip peoples' way to refer to the
> author?
>
> On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 1:58 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
>> Registration is now open:
>> http://www.afmug.com/
>>
>> The sponsor info is old, but maybe they will all offer to sponsor.
>> Really, trying to get Ditchwitch, Vermeer, Preformed Line Products etc to
>> sponsor as that is the kind of stuff we will be discussing.
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] It's on

[Kurt Fankhauser]

this sounds awesome!

On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 3:26 PM, Colin Stanners  wrote:

> AnimalFarm has always been a great conference: very fun, inexpensive,
> great people and insight, and it helped me gain a massive amount of
> experience / knowledge / connections in the WISP industry. You could see
> that Chuck and his crew had the dedication and organization to make things
> happen.
>
> But winter AnimalFarm was a good excuse to get out of my cold province
> during the winters; that doesn't apply to June. Decisions...
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 12:29 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
>> June 12 & 13 AnimalFarm
>>
>> I even have vendors tracking me down here at WISPAmerica wanting to
>> sponsor.
>>
>> Going to start to put together the agenda.  Very short sessions like
>> always.
>> Need the crowd to evolve this thing.
>>
>> Day 1:
>> Fiber theory, channels, band plan
>> SFPs
>> Passive mux
>> CWDM DWDM
>>
>> FTTH network topology
>> GPON
>> AE
>> Pros and cons
>>
>> OSP Network Components
>> Costs and Features
>> Cable
>> Conduit
>> Handholes
>> Splice Cases
>> Splitters
>>
>> Cabinets
>> Cross boxes
>> Electronics
>> Powering and cooling
>>
>> Fiber
>> Splicing
>> Connectors
>> Engineering considerations
>> Costs
>>
>> NOC
>> MT FTTH in a box solution
>>
>> Day 2:  Hands On
>> HDD operations
>> Vacuum Excavators
>> Hole Hawg and other missiles
>> Underground location
>> Eating mass quantities of dead animals.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Animal Farm Summer 2018

[Bill Prince]

A more worldly Orwell.

--
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com

On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 12:27 PM, Colin Stanners  wrote:

> Who is "Geo Orwell", or is that the hip peoples' way to refer to the
> author?
>
> On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 1:58 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
>> Registration is now open:
>> http://www.afmug.com/
>>
>> The sponsor info is old, but maybe they will all offer to sponsor.
>> Really, trying to get Ditchwitch, Vermeer, Preformed Line Products etc to
>> sponsor as that is the kind of stuff we will be discussing.
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] AnimalFarm Summer Session

[Kurt Fankhauser]

How much is cost to attend? Or is it BYOB ?

On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 11:32 AM, Cameron Crum  wrote:

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvJN2VPu6no
>
> On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 8:14 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
>> Oh and eating mass quantities of smoked dead animals on day 2 as well.
>>
>> *From:* Chuck McCown
>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 08, 2018 7:10 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* AnimalFarm Summer Session
>>
>> Second week of June.
>> Day 1 in a hotel meeting room near SLC Airport.
>> Day 2 my place about 15 minutes West of the SLC Airport.
>>
>> Tentative Topics
>> Fiber topology and system design options
>> Splicing
>> Materials
>> Equipment
>> System Costs
>>
>> Horizontal Directional Drilling operation
>> Vacuum Excavation operation
>> Vibratory plow
>> Splicing Trailers
>> Trenching
>> Missile/Hole Hawg
>>
>> Going to try to get Ditch Witch and Vermeer to bring their toys.
>> But if the don’t want to do that I have my own.
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] It's on

[Chuck McCown]

Generally, there is still skiing at Snowbird during the first part of June.  
Not guaranteed and this year is a low snow year.  But many times.  

From: Colin Stanners 
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2018 1:26 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] It's on

AnimalFarm has always been a great conference: very fun, inexpensive, great 
people and insight, and it helped me gain a massive amount of experience / 
knowledge / connections in the WISP industry. You could see that Chuck and his 
crew had the dedication and organization to make things happen.


But winter AnimalFarm was a good excuse to get out of my cold province during 
the winters; that doesn't apply to June. Decisions...



On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 12:29 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

  June 12 & 13 AnimalFarm

  I even have vendors tracking me down here at WISPAmerica wanting to sponsor.  

  Going to start to put together the agenda.  Very short sessions like always.
  Need the crowd to evolve this thing.

  Day 1:
  Fiber theory, channels, band plan
  SFPs
  Passive mux
  CWDM DWDM
 
  FTTH network topology
  GPON
  AE
  Pros and cons

  OSP Network Components
  Costs and Features
  Cable
  Conduit
  Handholes
  Splice Cases
  Splitters

  Cabinets
  Cross boxes
  Electronics
  Powering and cooling

  Fiber 
  Splicing
  Connectors
  Engineering considerations
  Costs

  NOC
  MT FTTH in a box solution

  Day 2:  Hands On
  HDD operations
  Vacuum Excavators
  Hole Hawg and other missiles
  Underground location
  Eating mass quantities of dead animals.

Re: [AFMUG] Animal Farm Summer 2018

[Chuck McCown]

Geo is the diminutive of George.  

Geo Washington but I guess Canadians don’t know this kind of stuff..   ;-)

From: Colin Stanners 
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2018 1:27 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Animal Farm Summer 2018

Who is "Geo Orwell", or is that the hip peoples' way to refer to the author?


On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 1:58 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

  Registration is now open:
  http://www.afmug.com/

  The sponsor info is old, but maybe they will all offer to sponsor.  
  Really, trying to get Ditchwitch, Vermeer, Preformed Line Products etc to 
sponsor as that is the kind of stuff we will be discussing.  

Re: [AFMUG] Animal Farm Summer 2018

[Colin Stanners]

Who is "Geo Orwell", or is that the hip peoples' way to refer to the author?

On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 1:58 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> Registration is now open:
> http://www.afmug.com/
>
> The sponsor info is old, but maybe they will all offer to sponsor.
> Really, trying to get Ditchwitch, Vermeer, Preformed Line Products etc to
> sponsor as that is the kind of stuff we will be discussing.
>

Re: [AFMUG] It's on

[Colin Stanners]

AnimalFarm has always been a great conference: very fun, inexpensive, great
people and insight, and it helped me gain a massive amount of experience /
knowledge / connections in the WISP industry. You could see that Chuck and
his crew had the dedication and organization to make things happen.

But winter AnimalFarm was a good excuse to get out of my cold province
during the winters; that doesn't apply to June. Decisions...


On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 12:29 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> June 12 & 13 AnimalFarm
>
> I even have vendors tracking me down here at WISPAmerica wanting to
> sponsor.
>
> Going to start to put together the agenda.  Very short sessions like
> always.
> Need the crowd to evolve this thing.
>
> Day 1:
> Fiber theory, channels, band plan
> SFPs
> Passive mux
> CWDM DWDM
>
> FTTH network topology
> GPON
> AE
> Pros and cons
>
> OSP Network Components
> Costs and Features
> Cable
> Conduit
> Handholes
> Splice Cases
> Splitters
>
> Cabinets
> Cross boxes
> Electronics
> Powering and cooling
>
> Fiber
> Splicing
> Connectors
> Engineering considerations
> Costs
>
> NOC
> MT FTTH in a box solution
>
> Day 2:  Hands On
> HDD operations
> Vacuum Excavators
> Hole Hawg and other missiles
> Underground location
> Eating mass quantities of dead animals.
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT: This is pretty slick - that price tag though...

[Carl Peterson]

I would guess this is aimed more at a generation that is more comfortable
controlling something with a smart screen then with a switch.  I've always
thought that peoples biggest mistake when evaluating TSLA is that they look
at it like a car company.

On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 2:43 PM, Bill Prince  wrote:

> That is one major ding against the Model 3; too many things incorporated
> into that massive monitor, including things that would be much simpler with
> a simple switch or two (or three or four). Not sure how that passed any
> usability tests. I would have made it smaller, or tried to figure out how
> to blend it better.
>
> --
> bp
> part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
>
> On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 11:30 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
>> I would buy one, except I don’t want a car with a freaking TV bolted to
>> the dashboard.
>>
>> *From:* Bill Prince
>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 08, 2018 12:19 PM
>> *To:* Motorola III
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: This is pretty slick - that price tag
>> though...
>>
>> I know it's easy to bash Elon; he's not my favorite human by any stretch.
>> However, if these latest delivery numbers are accurate, the Model 3 is
>> beginning to crush the rest of the electric car market.
>>
>> https://cleantechnica.com/2018/03/05/tesla-model-3-wins-febr
>> uary-despite-production-woes-electric-car-sales-dim-usa/
>>
>> -bp
>>
>> --
>> bp
>> part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 10:20 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>>
>>> But there is sumpin’ special about Tesla.
>>>
>>> I can go drive a GT out there any time I want to pay the fee on the day
>>> they do their training days.
>>> Can’t do that with Tesla... yet...
>>>
>>> *From:* Travis Johnson
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 08, 2018 10:59 AM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: This is pretty slick - that price tag
>>> though...
>>>
>>> Normal insurance won't cover any vehicle on a race track. You have to
>>> buy specialized insurance, which I'm sure would be crazy expensive.
>>>
>>> It would be more economical to buy the new Ford GT350R ($500k) or the
>>> new Corvette Z06 ($120k)... mainly because they are the two fastest track
>>> cars available right now... even beating the Porsche 918 ($1 million).
>>>
>>> Travis
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/8/2018 10:10 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>>
>>> Maybe I could buy one and rent it out for $1K/day.  We do have a very
>>> nice race track nearby.
>>>
>>> *From:* Chuck McCown
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 08, 2018 10:00 AM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: This is pretty slick - that price tag
>>> though...
>>>
>>> Travis, want to do a fractional ownership thing with me on one of
>>> these???
>>>
>>> *From:* Travis Johnson
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 08, 2018 9:52 AM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: This is pretty slick - that price tag
>>> though...
>>>
>>> The only problem is the Roadster won't be shipping until 2020 or
>>> later... LOL
>>>
>>> Travis
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/8/2018 9:24 AM, Cameron Crum wrote:
>>>
>>> No doubt about that. But, considering the specs on this car, it is cheap
>>> compared to other "super cars" with relatively similar (not much out there
>>> that can boast these specs) performance specifications. I've never been a
>>> big Tesla car fan as I don't think the company would have been successful
>>> on its own, but that is the car industry these days.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 10:01 AM, Robert  wrote:
>>>
 The Tesla is Elon's direct reach into the pockets of the wealthy to
 fund his businesses

 On 3/8/18 7:38 AM, Jon Lee wrote:

> This is more my style :)
> http://bollingermotors.com
>
> On Mar 7, 2018 5:16 PM, "Jason McKemie"  com > wrote:
>
> https://www.tesla.com/roadster
>
>
>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>


-- 

Carl Peterson

*PORT NETWORKS*

401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553

Baltimore, MD 21202

(410) 637-3707

[AFMUG] Animal Farm Summer 2018

[Chuck McCown]

Registration is now open:
http://www.afmug.com/

The sponsor info is old, but maybe they will all offer to sponsor.  
Really, trying to get Ditchwitch, Vermeer, Preformed Line Products etc to 
sponsor as that is the kind of stuff we will be discussing.  

Re: [AFMUG] OT: This is pretty slick - that price tag though...

[Bill Prince]

That is one major ding against the Model 3; too many things incorporated
into that massive monitor, including things that would be much simpler with
a simple switch or two (or three or four). Not sure how that passed any
usability tests. I would have made it smaller, or tried to figure out how
to blend it better.

--
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com

On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 11:30 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> I would buy one, except I don’t want a car with a freaking TV bolted to
> the dashboard.
>
> *From:* Bill Prince
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 08, 2018 12:19 PM
> *To:* Motorola III
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: This is pretty slick - that price tag though...
>
> I know it's easy to bash Elon; he's not my favorite human by any stretch.
> However, if these latest delivery numbers are accurate, the Model 3 is
> beginning to crush the rest of the electric car market.
>
> https://cleantechnica.com/2018/03/05/tesla-model-3-wins-
> february-despite-production-woes-electric-car-sales-dim-usa/
>
> -bp
>
> --
> bp
> part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
>
> On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 10:20 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
>> But there is sumpin’ special about Tesla.
>>
>> I can go drive a GT out there any time I want to pay the fee on the day
>> they do their training days.
>> Can’t do that with Tesla... yet...
>>
>> *From:* Travis Johnson
>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 08, 2018 10:59 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: This is pretty slick - that price tag
>> though...
>>
>> Normal insurance won't cover any vehicle on a race track. You have to buy
>> specialized insurance, which I'm sure would be crazy expensive.
>>
>> It would be more economical to buy the new Ford GT350R ($500k) or the new
>> Corvette Z06 ($120k)... mainly because they are the two fastest track cars
>> available right now... even beating the Porsche 918 ($1 million).
>>
>> Travis
>>
>>
>> On 3/8/2018 10:10 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>
>> Maybe I could buy one and rent it out for $1K/day.  We do have a very
>> nice race track nearby.
>>
>> *From:* Chuck McCown
>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 08, 2018 10:00 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: This is pretty slick - that price tag
>> though...
>>
>> Travis, want to do a fractional ownership thing with me on one of these???
>>
>> *From:* Travis Johnson
>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 08, 2018 9:52 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: This is pretty slick - that price tag
>> though...
>>
>> The only problem is the Roadster won't be shipping until 2020 or later...
>> LOL
>>
>> Travis
>>
>>
>> On 3/8/2018 9:24 AM, Cameron Crum wrote:
>>
>> No doubt about that. But, considering the specs on this car, it is cheap
>> compared to other "super cars" with relatively similar (not much out there
>> that can boast these specs) performance specifications. I've never been a
>> big Tesla car fan as I don't think the company would have been successful
>> on its own, but that is the car industry these days.
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 10:01 AM, Robert  wrote:
>>
>>> The Tesla is Elon's direct reach into the pockets of the wealthy to fund
>>> his businesses
>>>
>>> On 3/8/18 7:38 AM, Jon Lee wrote:
>>>
 This is more my style :)
 http://bollingermotors.com

 On Mar 7, 2018 5:16 PM, "Jason McKemie" > wrote:

 https://www.tesla.com/roadster



>>
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] It's on

[Carl Peterson]

I'm in if this is an open invite

On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 2:30 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> If you present, they will come
>
> *From:* Gino A. Villarini
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 08, 2018 12:11 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] It's on
>
> What? No Wi-Gig / Wi-PON
>
> From: Af  on behalf of Chuck McCown  >
> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
> Date: Thursday, March 8, 2018 at 2:29 PM
> To: "af@afmug.com" 
> Subject: [AFMUG] It's on
>
> June 12 & 13 AnimalFarm
>
> I even have vendors tracking me down here at WISPAmerica wanting to
> sponsor.
>
> Going to start to put together the agenda.  Very short sessions like
> always.
> Need the crowd to evolve this thing.
>
> Day 1:
> Fiber theory, channels, band plan
> SFPs
> Passive mux
> CWDM DWDM
>
> FTTH network topology
> GPON
> AE
> Pros and cons
>
> OSP Network Components
> Costs and Features
> Cable
> Conduit
> Handholes
> Splice Cases
> Splitters
>
> Cabinets
> Cross boxes
> Electronics
> Powering and cooling
>
> Fiber
> Splicing
> Connectors
> Engineering considerations
> Costs
>
> NOC
> MT FTTH in a box solution
>
> Day 2:  Hands On
> HDD operations
> Vacuum Excavators
> Hole Hawg and other missiles
> Underground location
> Eating mass quantities of dead animals.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *Gino A. Villarini*
> President
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
>


-- 

Carl Peterson

*PORT NETWORKS*

401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553

Baltimore, MD 21202

(410) 637-3707

Re: [AFMUG] OT: This is pretty slick - that price tag though...

[Chuck McCown]

I would buy one, except I don’t want a car with a freaking TV bolted to the 
dashboard.

From: Bill Prince 
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2018 12:19 PM
To: Motorola III 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: This is pretty slick - that price tag though...

I know it's easy to bash Elon; he's not my favorite human by any stretch. 
However, if these latest delivery numbers are accurate, the Model 3 is 
beginning to crush the rest of the electric car market.

https://cleantechnica.com/2018/03/05/tesla-model-3-wins-february-despite-production-woes-electric-car-sales-dim-usa/


-bp


--

bp

part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com


On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 10:20 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

  But there is sumpin’ special about Tesla.  

  I can go drive a GT out there any time I want to pay the fee on the day they 
do their training days.  
  Can’t do that with Tesla... yet...

  From: Travis Johnson 
  Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2018 10:59 AM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: This is pretty slick - that price tag though...

  Normal insurance won't cover any vehicle on a race track. You have to buy 
specialized insurance, which I'm sure would be crazy expensive.

  It would be more economical to buy the new Ford GT350R ($500k) or the new 
Corvette Z06 ($120k)... mainly because they are the two fastest track cars 
available right now... even beating the Porsche 918 ($1 million).

  Travis



  On 3/8/2018 10:10 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

Maybe I could buy one and rent it out for $1K/day.  We do have a very nice 
race track nearby.  

From: Chuck McCown 
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2018 10:00 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: This is pretty slick - that price tag though...

Travis, want to do a fractional ownership thing with me on one of these???

From: Travis Johnson 
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2018 9:52 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: This is pretty slick - that price tag though...

The only problem is the Roadster won't be shipping until 2020 or later... 
LOL

Travis



On 3/8/2018 9:24 AM, Cameron Crum wrote:

  No doubt about that. But, considering the specs on this car, it is cheap 
compared to other "super cars" with relatively similar (not much out there that 
can boast these specs) performance specifications. I've never been a big Tesla 
car fan as I don't think the company would have been successful on its own, but 
that is the car industry these days. 

  On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 10:01 AM, Robert  wrote:

The Tesla is Elon's direct reach into the pockets of the wealthy to 
fund his businesses

On 3/8/18 7:38 AM, Jon Lee wrote:

  This is more my style :)
  http://bollingermotors.com

  On Mar 7, 2018 5:16 PM, "Jason McKemie" 
> 
wrote:

  https://www.tesla.com/roadster

Re: [AFMUG] It's on

[Chuck McCown]

If you present, they will come

From: Gino A. Villarini 
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2018 12:11 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] It's on

What? No Wi-Gig / Wi-PON 

From: Af  on behalf of Chuck McCown 
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
Date: Thursday, March 8, 2018 at 2:29 PM
To: "af@afmug.com" 
Subject: [AFMUG] It's on


June 12 & 13 AnimalFarm

I even have vendors tracking me down here at WISPAmerica wanting to sponsor.  

Going to start to put together the agenda.  Very short sessions like always.
Need the crowd to evolve this thing.

Day 1:
Fiber theory, channels, band plan
SFPs
Passive mux
CWDM DWDM
   
FTTH network topology
GPON
AE
Pros and cons

OSP Network Components
Costs and Features
Cable
Conduit
Handholes
Splice Cases
Splitters

Cabinets
Cross boxes
Electronics
Powering and cooling

Fiber 
Splicing
Connectors
Engineering considerations
Costs

NOC
MT FTTH in a box solution

Day 2:  Hands On
HDD operations
Vacuum Excavators
Hole Hawg and other missiles
Underground location
Eating mass quantities of dead animals.





  Gino A. Villarini
 
  President 
  Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 

Re: [AFMUG] It's on

[TJ Trout]

I'm in!!! Reserve my seat! Yayy

On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 11:11 AM, Gino A. Villarini 
wrote:

> What? No Wi-Gig / Wi-PON
>
> From: Af  on behalf of Chuck McCown  >
> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
> Date: Thursday, March 8, 2018 at 2:29 PM
> To: "af@afmug.com" 
> Subject: [AFMUG] It's on
>
> June 12 & 13 AnimalFarm
>
> I even have vendors tracking me down here at WISPAmerica wanting to
> sponsor.
>
> Going to start to put together the agenda.  Very short sessions like
> always.
> Need the crowd to evolve this thing.
>
> Day 1:
> Fiber theory, channels, band plan
> SFPs
> Passive mux
> CWDM DWDM
>
> FTTH network topology
> GPON
> AE
> Pros and cons
>
> OSP Network Components
> Costs and Features
> Cable
> Conduit
> Handholes
> Splice Cases
> Splitters
>
> Cabinets
> Cross boxes
> Electronics
> Powering and cooling
>
> Fiber
> Splicing
> Connectors
> Engineering considerations
> Costs
>
> NOC
> MT FTTH in a box solution
>
> Day 2:  Hands On
> HDD operations
> Vacuum Excavators
> Hole Hawg and other missiles
> Underground location
> Eating mass quantities of dead animals.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *Gino A. Villarini*
> President
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] It's on

[Gino A. Villarini]

What? No Wi-Gig / Wi-PON

From: Af > on behalf of Chuck 
McCown >
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
>
Date: Thursday, March 8, 2018 at 2:29 PM
To: "af@afmug.com" >
Subject: [AFMUG] It's on

June 12 & 13 AnimalFarm

I even have vendors tracking me down here at WISPAmerica wanting to sponsor.

Going to start to put together the agenda.  Very short sessions like always.
Need the crowd to evolve this thing.

Day 1:
Fiber theory, channels, band plan
SFPs
Passive mux
CWDM DWDM

FTTH network topology
GPON
AE
Pros and cons

OSP Network Components
Costs and Features
Cable
Conduit
Handholes
Splice Cases
Splitters

Cabinets
Cross boxes
Electronics
Powering and cooling

Fiber
Splicing
Connectors
Engineering considerations
Costs

NOC
MT FTTH in a box solution

Day 2:  Hands On
HDD operations
Vacuum Excavators
Hole Hawg and other missiles
Underground location
Eating mass quantities of dead animals.






Gino A. Villarini


President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

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Re: [AFMUG] It's on

[Chuck McCown]

I am trying to get the registration button on the afmug.com site working.

-Original Message- 
From: Robert

Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2018 12:04 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] It's on

Can I get my name on the list?

On 3/8/18 10:40 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

You get to present!
*From:* Sterling Jacobson
*Sent:* Thursday, March 08, 2018 11:35 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] It's on

That sounds awesome!

I’m marking that on my calendar right now for myself and some of my 
people, lol


*From:* Af  *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
*Sent:* Thursday, March 8, 2018 11:29 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* [AFMUG] It's on

June 12 & 13 AnimalFarm

I even have vendors tracking me down here at WISPAmerica wanting to 
sponsor.


Going to start to put together the agenda.  Very short sessions like 
always.


Need the crowd to evolve this thing.

Day 1:

Fiber theory, channels, band plan

SFPs

Passive mux

CWDM DWDM

FTTH network topology

GPON

AE

Pros and cons

OSP Network Components

 Costs and Features

Cable

Conduit

Handholes

 Splice Cases

Splitters

Cabinets

 Cross boxes

Electronics

 Powering and cooling

Fiber

Splicing

Connectors

 Engineering considerations

Costs

NOC

 MT FTTH in a box solution

Day 2: Hands On

HDD operations

Vacuum Excavators

Hole Hawg and other missiles

Underground location

Eating mass quantities of dead animals.

Re: [AFMUG] It's on

[Robert]

Can I get my name on the list?

On 3/8/18 10:40 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

You get to present!
*From:* Sterling Jacobson
*Sent:* Thursday, March 08, 2018 11:35 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] It's on

That sounds awesome!

I’m marking that on my calendar right now for myself and some of my 
people, lol


*From:* Af  *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
*Sent:* Thursday, March 8, 2018 11:29 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* [AFMUG] It's on

June 12 & 13 AnimalFarm

I even have vendors tracking me down here at WISPAmerica wanting to 
sponsor.


Going to start to put together the agenda.  Very short sessions like always.

Need the crowd to evolve this thing.

Day 1:

Fiber theory, channels, band plan

SFPs

Passive mux

CWDM DWDM

FTTH network topology

GPON

AE

Pros and cons

OSP Network Components

     Costs and Features

Cable

Conduit

Handholes

     Splice Cases

Splitters

Cabinets

     Cross boxes

Electronics

     Powering and cooling

Fiber

Splicing

Connectors

     Engineering considerations

Costs

NOC

     MT FTTH in a box solution

Day 2: Hands On

HDD operations

Vacuum Excavators

Hole Hawg and other missiles

Underground location

Eating mass quantities of dead animals.

Re: [AFMUG] It's on

[Sterling Jacobson]

Sure, ok.

Put me down for something I guess.


From: Af  On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2018 11:41 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] It's on

You get to present!

From: Sterling Jacobson
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2018 11:35 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] It's on

That sounds awesome!

I’m marking that on my calendar right now for myself and some of my people, lol

From: Af > On Behalf Of Chuck 
McCown
Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2018 11:29 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] It's on

June 12 & 13 AnimalFarm

I even have vendors tracking me down here at WISPAmerica wanting to sponsor.

Going to start to put together the agenda.  Very short sessions like always.
Need the crowd to evolve this thing.

Day 1:
Fiber theory, channels, band plan
SFPs
Passive mux
CWDM DWDM

FTTH network topology
GPON
AE
Pros and cons

OSP Network Components
Costs and Features
Cable
Conduit
Handholes
Splice Cases
Splitters

Cabinets
Cross boxes
Electronics
Powering and cooling

Fiber
Splicing
Connectors
Engineering considerations
Costs

NOC
MT FTTH in a box solution

Day 2:  Hands On
HDD operations
Vacuum Excavators
Hole Hawg and other missiles
Underground location
Eating mass quantities of dead animals.

Re: [AFMUG] It's on

[Chuck McCown]

You get to present!

From: Sterling Jacobson 
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2018 11:35 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] It's on

That sounds awesome!

 

I’m marking that on my calendar right now for myself and some of my people, lol

 

From: Af  On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2018 11:29 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] It's on

 

June 12 & 13 AnimalFarm

 

I even have vendors tracking me down here at WISPAmerica wanting to sponsor.  

 

Going to start to put together the agenda.  Very short sessions like always.

Need the crowd to evolve this thing.

 

Day 1:

Fiber theory, channels, band plan

SFPs

Passive mux

CWDM DWDM

   

FTTH network topology

GPON

AE

Pros and cons

 

OSP Network Components

Costs and Features

Cable

Conduit

Handholes

Splice Cases

Splitters

 

Cabinets

Cross boxes

Electronics

Powering and cooling

 

Fiber 

Splicing

Connectors

Engineering considerations

Costs

 

NOC

MT FTTH in a box solution

 

Day 2:  Hands On

HDD operations

Vacuum Excavators

Hole Hawg and other missiles

Underground location

Eating mass quantities of dead animals.

 

 

 

Re: [AFMUG] It's on

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

Is the chuck-o-rama still in biz?
Hard to come to slc and talk fiber without eating there

Weekley and I found out the week we spent with you a few summers ago
I don't miss those Motel 6 beds lol 

Sent from my smartphone

- Reply message -
From: "Chuck McCown" 
To: 
Subject: [AFMUG] It's on
Date: Thu, Mar 8, 2018 12:29 PM

June 12 & 13 AnimalFarm

I even have vendors tracking me down here at WISPAmerica wanting to
sponsor.  

Going to start to put together the agenda.  Very short sessions like 
always.
Need the crowd to evolve this thing.

Day 1:
Fiber theory, channels, band plan
SFPs
Passive mux
CWDM DWDM

FTTH network topology
GPON
AE
Pros and cons

OSP Network Components
Costs and Features
Cable
Conduit
Handholes
Splice Cases
Splitters

Cabinets
Cross boxes
Electronics
Powering and cooling

Fiber 
Splicing
Connectors
Engineering considerations
Costs

NOC
MT FTTH in a box solution

Day 2:  Hands On
HDD operations
Vacuum Excavators
Hole Hawg and other missiles
Underground location
Eating mass quantities of dead animals.

Re: [AFMUG] It's on

[Sterling Jacobson]

That sounds awesome!

I'm marking that on my calendar right now for myself and some of my people, lol

From: Af  On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2018 11:29 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] It's on

June 12 & 13 AnimalFarm

I even have vendors tracking me down here at WISPAmerica wanting to sponsor.

Going to start to put together the agenda.  Very short sessions like always.
Need the crowd to evolve this thing.

Day 1:
Fiber theory, channels, band plan
SFPs
Passive mux
CWDM DWDM

FTTH network topology
GPON
AE
Pros and cons

OSP Network Components
Costs and Features
Cable
Conduit
Handholes
Splice Cases
Splitters

Cabinets
Cross boxes
Electronics
Powering and cooling

Fiber
Splicing
Connectors
Engineering considerations
Costs

NOC
MT FTTH in a box solution

Day 2:  Hands On
HDD operations
Vacuum Excavators
Hole Hawg and other missiles
Underground location
Eating mass quantities of dead animals.

[AFMUG] It's on

[Chuck McCown]

June 12 & 13 AnimalFarm

I even have vendors tracking me down here at WISPAmerica wanting to sponsor.  

Going to start to put together the agenda.  Very short sessions like always.
Need the crowd to evolve this thing.

Day 1:
Fiber theory, channels, band plan
SFPs
Passive mux
CWDM DWDM
   
FTTH network topology
GPON
AE
Pros and cons

OSP Network Components
Costs and Features
Cable
Conduit
Handholes
Splice Cases
Splitters

Cabinets
Cross boxes
Electronics
Powering and cooling

Fiber 
Splicing
Connectors
Engineering considerations
Costs

NOC
MT FTTH in a box solution

Day 2:  Hands On
HDD operations
Vacuum Excavators
Hole Hawg and other missiles
Underground location
Eating mass quantities of dead animals.

Re: [AFMUG] OT: This is pretty slick - that price tag though...

[Chuck McCown]

But there is sumpin’ special about Tesla.  

I can go drive a GT out there any time I want to pay the fee on the day they do 
their training days.  
Can’t do that with Tesla... yet...

From: Travis Johnson 
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2018 10:59 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: This is pretty slick - that price tag though...

Normal insurance won't cover any vehicle on a race track. You have to buy 
specialized insurance, which I'm sure would be crazy expensive.

It would be more economical to buy the new Ford GT350R ($500k) or the new 
Corvette Z06 ($120k)... mainly because they are the two fastest track cars 
available right now... even beating the Porsche 918 ($1 million).

Travis



On 3/8/2018 10:10 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

  Maybe I could buy one and rent it out for $1K/day.  We do have a very nice 
race track nearby.  

  From: Chuck McCown 
  Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2018 10:00 AM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: This is pretty slick - that price tag though...

  Travis, want to do a fractional ownership thing with me on one of these???

  From: Travis Johnson 
  Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2018 9:52 AM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: This is pretty slick - that price tag though...

  The only problem is the Roadster won't be shipping until 2020 or later... LOL

  Travis



  On 3/8/2018 9:24 AM, Cameron Crum wrote:

No doubt about that. But, considering the specs on this car, it is cheap 
compared to other "super cars" with relatively similar (not much out there that 
can boast these specs) performance specifications. I've never been a big Tesla 
car fan as I don't think the company would have been successful on its own, but 
that is the car industry these days. 

On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 10:01 AM, Robert  wrote:

  The Tesla is Elon's direct reach into the pockets of the wealthy to fund 
his businesses

  On 3/8/18 7:38 AM, Jon Lee wrote:

This is more my style :)
http://bollingermotors.com

On Mar 7, 2018 5:16 PM, "Jason McKemie" 
> 
wrote:

https://www.tesla.com/roadster

Re: [AFMUG] OT: This is pretty slick - that price tag though...

[Travis Johnson]

Normal insurance won't cover any vehicle on a race track. You have to 
buy specialized insurance, which I'm sure would be crazy expensive.


It would be more economical to buy the new Ford GT350R ($500k) or the 
new Corvette Z06 ($120k)... mainly because they are the two fastest 
track cars available right now... even beating the Porsche 918 ($1 million).


Travis


On 3/8/2018 10:10 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
Maybe I could buy one and rent it out for $1K/day.  We do have a very 
nice race track nearby.

*From:* Chuck McCown
*Sent:* Thursday, March 08, 2018 10:00 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: This is pretty slick - that price tag though...
Travis, want to do a fractional ownership thing with me on one of these???
*From:* Travis Johnson
*Sent:* Thursday, March 08, 2018 9:52 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: This is pretty slick - that price tag though...
The only problem is the Roadster won't be shipping until 2020 or 
later... LOL


Travis


On 3/8/2018 9:24 AM, Cameron Crum wrote:
No doubt about that. But, considering the specs on this car, it is 
cheap compared to other "super cars" with relatively similar (not 
much out there that can boast these specs) performance 
specifications. I've never been a big Tesla car fan as I don't think 
the company would have been successful on its own, but that is the 
car industry these days.

On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 10:01 AM, Robert  wrote:

The Tesla is Elon's direct reach into the pockets of the wealthy
to fund his businesses

On 3/8/18 7:38 AM, Jon Lee wrote:

This is more my style :)
http://bollingermotors.com

On Mar 7, 2018 5:16 PM, "Jason McKemie"
> wrote:

https://www.tesla.com/roadster

Re: [AFMUG] OT: This is pretty slick - that price tag though...

[Robert]

oh yeah, but still gonna be profitable for Elon, specially compared to 
other supercars


On 3/8/18 8:24 AM, Cameron Crum wrote:
No doubt about that. But, considering the specs on this car, it is cheap 
compared to other "super cars" with relatively similar (not much out 
there that can boast these specs) performance specifications. I've never 
been a big Tesla car fan as I don't think the company would have been 
successful on its own, but that is the car industry these days.


On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 10:01 AM, Robert > wrote:


The Tesla is Elon's direct reach into the pockets of the wealthy to
fund his businesses

On 3/8/18 7:38 AM, Jon Lee wrote:

This is more my style :)
http://bollingermotors.com

On Mar 7, 2018 5:16 PM, "Jason McKemie"

>> wrote:

https://www.tesla.com/roadster

Re: [AFMUG] OT: This is pretty slick - that price tag though...

[Chuck McCown]

Maybe I could buy one and rent it out for $1K/day.  We do have a very nice race 
track nearby.  

From: Chuck McCown 
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2018 10:00 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: This is pretty slick - that price tag though...

Travis, want to do a fractional ownership thing with me on one of these???

From: Travis Johnson 
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2018 9:52 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: This is pretty slick - that price tag though...

The only problem is the Roadster won't be shipping until 2020 or later... LOL

Travis



On 3/8/2018 9:24 AM, Cameron Crum wrote:

  No doubt about that. But, considering the specs on this car, it is cheap 
compared to other "super cars" with relatively similar (not much out there that 
can boast these specs) performance specifications. I've never been a big Tesla 
car fan as I don't think the company would have been successful on its own, but 
that is the car industry these days. 

  On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 10:01 AM, Robert  wrote:

The Tesla is Elon's direct reach into the pockets of the wealthy to fund 
his businesses

On 3/8/18 7:38 AM, Jon Lee wrote:

  This is more my style :)
  http://bollingermotors.com

  On Mar 7, 2018 5:16 PM, "Jason McKemie" > wrote:

  https://www.tesla.com/roadster

Re: [AFMUG] OT: This is pretty slick - that price tag though...

[Chuck McCown]

Travis, want to do a fractional ownership thing with me on one of these???

From: Travis Johnson 
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2018 9:52 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: This is pretty slick - that price tag though...

The only problem is the Roadster won't be shipping until 2020 or later... LOL

Travis



On 3/8/2018 9:24 AM, Cameron Crum wrote:

  No doubt about that. But, considering the specs on this car, it is cheap 
compared to other "super cars" with relatively similar (not much out there that 
can boast these specs) performance specifications. I've never been a big Tesla 
car fan as I don't think the company would have been successful on its own, but 
that is the car industry these days. 

  On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 10:01 AM, Robert  wrote:

The Tesla is Elon's direct reach into the pockets of the wealthy to fund 
his businesses

On 3/8/18 7:38 AM, Jon Lee wrote:

  This is more my style :)
  http://bollingermotors.com

  On Mar 7, 2018 5:16 PM, "Jason McKemie" > wrote:

  https://www.tesla.com/roadster

Re: [AFMUG] Cross posting

[Chuck McCown]

IGMP over the public internet via VPN.  $250 cost to get started.  I liked 
everything about the solution but the IGMP.
You have to use their STB and you  have to have a network that will happily 
route PIM Sparse Mode correctly.  
I understand that is not Mimosa yet, but Cambium and UBNT will support it.  

Oh, how I dislike IGMP.

From: Chuck McCown 
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2018 8:33 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] Cross posting

I really should stop by and learn how they do what they do.

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help you deliver every major cable network and all the the local channels to 
your customers via bandwidth savvy multicast. 
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 We have:
  a.. Easy to use interface - NOT Roku 
  b.. Real Licensed Content 
  c.. Head Ends
  (that deliver a wide variety of revenue producing 
options)
  d.. Everything you need
  (All Hardware, software, engineering, marketing 
consulting, and technical support)
  e.. VOD
  f.. nDVR
  g.. Customer Management
  h.. Channel Packages
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: This is pretty slick - that price tag though...

[Travis Johnson]

The only problem is the Roadster won't be shipping until 2020 or 
later... LOL


Travis


On 3/8/2018 9:24 AM, Cameron Crum wrote:
No doubt about that. But, considering the specs on this car, it is 
cheap compared to other "super cars" with relatively similar (not much 
out there that can boast these specs) performance specifications. I've 
never been a big Tesla car fan as I don't think the company would have 
been successful on its own, but that is the car industry these days.


On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 10:01 AM, Robert > wrote:


The Tesla is Elon's direct reach into the pockets of the wealthy
to fund his businesses

On 3/8/18 7:38 AM, Jon Lee wrote:

This is more my style :)
http://bollingermotors.com

On Mar 7, 2018 5:16 PM, "Jason McKemie"

>> wrote:

https://www.tesla.com/roadster

Re: [AFMUG] Ubnt - fiber

[Christopher Tyler]

Sorry, wrong thread. This was supposed to be about the AirCubes :P

-- 
Christopher Tyler 
MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE 
Total Highspeed Internet Services 
417.851.1107

- Original Message -
From: "Christopher Tyler" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2018 10:39:13 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ubnt - fiber

At least on the early units there is no web config enabled when you power them 
on for the first time. You have to use the phone app or management system to 
set it up initially.
Even after that, web config options are limited/non-existant which might be a 
good or bad thing, we didn't like it as we prefer to baseline config everything 
before rolling it out and having to use a phone to connect to every single 
device gets old quickly.

-- 
Christopher Tyler 
MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE 
Total Highspeed Internet Services 
417.851.1107

- Original Message -
From: "Steve Jones" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2018 10:20:09 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ubnt - fiber

this sounds like a good way to fail

On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 9:49 AM,  wrote:

> SNMP support is also severly lacking. Gotta use UNMS for monitoring ONUs,
> which... meh.
>
>
> March 8, 2018 7:13 AM, "Jason McKemie"  <%22jason%20mckemie%22%20%3cj.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com%3E>> wrote:
>
> Ah, thanks. That is unfortunate.
>
> On Thursday, March 8, 2018, Cassidy B. Larson  wrote:
>
> 5. What third-party ONUs can I connect to the UFiber OLT?
> The UFiber ONUs are the only supported ONU that is compatible with the
> UFiber OLT. Other third-party ONUs will not connect properly to the UFiber
> OLT.
> https://help.ubnt.com/hc/en-us/articles/36301287-UFiber-GPON-FAQ
>
> On Mar 8, 2018, at 8:00 AM, Jason McKemie  com> wrote:
> But does Ubiquiti's OLT support other manufacturer's ONTs?
>
> On Thursday, March 8, 2018, Cassidy B. Larson  wrote:
>
> They announced it two wispapalooza shows ago I think.. started shipping a
> year ago or so?
> They support a bunch of different OLTs:
> https://help.ubnt.com/hc/en-us/articles/115009335068-UFiber-
> GPON-Supported-Third-Party-OLTs
>
> On Mar 8, 2018, at 7:25 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller 
> wrote:
> When did they add like an entire product line? Is any of it standards /
> complaint / compatible with anything else?
> I don't hear anyone talking about this stuff..
> Sent from my smartphone
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Ubnt - fiber

[Christopher Tyler]

At least on the early units there is no web config enabled when you power them 
on for the first time. You have to use the phone app or management system to 
set it up initially.
Even after that, web config options are limited/non-existant which might be a 
good or bad thing, we didn't like it as we prefer to baseline config everything 
before rolling it out and having to use a phone to connect to every single 
device gets old quickly.

-- 
Christopher Tyler 
MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE 
Total Highspeed Internet Services 
417.851.1107

- Original Message -
From: "Steve Jones" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2018 10:20:09 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ubnt - fiber

this sounds like a good way to fail

On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 9:49 AM,  wrote:

> SNMP support is also severly lacking. Gotta use UNMS for monitoring ONUs,
> which... meh.
>
>
> March 8, 2018 7:13 AM, "Jason McKemie"  <%22jason%20mckemie%22%20%3cj.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com%3E>> wrote:
>
> Ah, thanks. That is unfortunate.
>
> On Thursday, March 8, 2018, Cassidy B. Larson  wrote:
>
> 5. What third-party ONUs can I connect to the UFiber OLT?
> The UFiber ONUs are the only supported ONU that is compatible with the
> UFiber OLT. Other third-party ONUs will not connect properly to the UFiber
> OLT.
> https://help.ubnt.com/hc/en-us/articles/36301287-UFiber-GPON-FAQ
>
> On Mar 8, 2018, at 8:00 AM, Jason McKemie  com> wrote:
> But does Ubiquiti's OLT support other manufacturer's ONTs?
>
> On Thursday, March 8, 2018, Cassidy B. Larson  wrote:
>
> They announced it two wispapalooza shows ago I think.. started shipping a
> year ago or so?
> They support a bunch of different OLTs:
> https://help.ubnt.com/hc/en-us/articles/115009335068-UFiber-
> GPON-Supported-Third-Party-OLTs
>
> On Mar 8, 2018, at 7:25 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller 
> wrote:
> When did they add like an entire product line? Is any of it standards /
> complaint / compatible with anything else?
> I don't hear anyone talking about this stuff..
> Sent from my smartphone
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] AnimalFarm Summer Session

[Cameron Crum]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvJN2VPu6no

On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 8:14 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> Oh and eating mass quantities of smoked dead animals on day 2 as well.
>
> *From:* Chuck McCown
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 08, 2018 7:10 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* AnimalFarm Summer Session
>
> Second week of June.
> Day 1 in a hotel meeting room near SLC Airport.
> Day 2 my place about 15 minutes West of the SLC Airport.
>
> Tentative Topics
> Fiber topology and system design options
> Splicing
> Materials
> Equipment
> System Costs
>
> Horizontal Directional Drilling operation
> Vacuum Excavation operation
> Vibratory plow
> Splicing Trailers
> Trenching
> Missile/Hole Hawg
>
> Going to try to get Ditch Witch and Vermeer to bring their toys.
> But if the don’t want to do that I have my own.
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT: This is pretty slick - that price tag though...

[Cameron Crum]

No doubt about that. But, considering the specs on this car, it is cheap
compared to other "super cars" with relatively similar (not much out there
that can boast these specs) performance specifications. I've never been a
big Tesla car fan as I don't think the company would have been successful
on its own, but that is the car industry these days.

On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 10:01 AM, Robert  wrote:

> The Tesla is Elon's direct reach into the pockets of the wealthy to fund
> his businesses
>
> On 3/8/18 7:38 AM, Jon Lee wrote:
>
>> This is more my style :)
>> http://bollingermotors.com
>>
>> On Mar 7, 2018 5:16 PM, "Jason McKemie" > > wrote:
>>
>> https://www.tesla.com/roadster
>>
>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] Ubnt - fiber

[Steve Jones]

this sounds like a good way to fail

On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 9:49 AM,  wrote:

> SNMP support is also severly lacking. Gotta use UNMS for monitoring ONUs,
> which... meh.
>
>
> March 8, 2018 7:13 AM, "Jason McKemie"  <%22jason%20mckemie%22%20%3cj.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com%3E>> wrote:
>
> Ah, thanks. That is unfortunate.
>
> On Thursday, March 8, 2018, Cassidy B. Larson  wrote:
>
> 5. What third-party ONUs can I connect to the UFiber OLT?
> The UFiber ONUs are the only supported ONU that is compatible with the
> UFiber OLT. Other third-party ONUs will not connect properly to the UFiber
> OLT.
> https://help.ubnt.com/hc/en-us/articles/36301287-UFiber-GPON-FAQ
>
> On Mar 8, 2018, at 8:00 AM, Jason McKemie  com> wrote:
> But does Ubiquiti's OLT support other manufacturer's ONTs?
>
> On Thursday, March 8, 2018, Cassidy B. Larson  wrote:
>
> They announced it two wispapalooza shows ago I think.. started shipping a
> year ago or so?
> They support a bunch of different OLTs:
> https://help.ubnt.com/hc/en-us/articles/115009335068-UFiber-
> GPON-Supported-Third-Party-OLTs
>
> On Mar 8, 2018, at 7:25 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller 
> wrote:
> When did they add like an entire product line? Is any of it standards /
> complaint / compatible with anything else?
> I don't hear anyone talking about this stuff..
> Sent from my smartphone
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT: This is pretty slick - that price tag though...

[Robert]

The Tesla is Elon's direct reach into the pockets of the wealthy to fund 
his businesses


On 3/8/18 7:38 AM, Jon Lee wrote:

This is more my style :)
http://bollingermotors.com

On Mar 7, 2018 5:16 PM, "Jason McKemie" 
> wrote:


https://www.tesla.com/roadster

Re: [AFMUG] OT where to eat

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

It was in Birmingham i believe 

Sent from my smartphone

- Reply message -
From: "Jaime Solorza" 
To: "Animal Farm" 
Subject: [AFMUG] OT where to eat
Date: Thu, Mar 8, 2018 9:36 AM

Bet you won't find this in Birmingham!!

Jaime Solorza

On Mon, Mar 5, 2018, 9:30 PM Forrest Christian (List Account) 
 wrote:
Just got back from pappadeux.  Good cajun seafood.  Not cheap. 15-20min drive.

On Mar 5, 2018 8:35 PM, "Jaime Solorza"  wrote:
Pappadeux or Texas de Brasil says my younger brother who travels through there 
allot.  Waffle House great for breakfast
Jaime Solorza


On Mar 5, 2018 6:19 PM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:




In BHM Sheraton.  Where to eat?

Re: [AFMUG] Ubnt - fiber

[dan]

SNMP support is also severly lacking. Gotta use UNMS for monitoring ONUs, 
which... meh.

March 8, 2018 7:13 AM, "Jason McKemie" )> wrote:
Ah, thanks. That is unfortunate.

On Thursday, March 8, 2018, Cassidy B. Larson  wrote:
5. What third-party ONUs can I connect to the UFiber OLT?

 The UFiber ONUs are the only supported ONU that is compatible with the UFiber 
OLT. Other third-party ONUs will not connect properly to the UFiber OLT. 
https://help.ubnt.com/hc/en-us/articles/36301287-UFiber-GPON-FAQ 
(https://help.ubnt.com/hc/en-us/articles/36301287-UFiber-GPON-FAQ) 
On Mar 8, 2018, at 8:00 AM, Jason McKemie  wrote: 
But does Ubiquiti's OLT support other manufacturer's ONTs?

On Thursday, March 8, 2018, Cassidy B. Larson  wrote:They announced it two wispapalooza shows ago 
I think.. started shipping a year ago or so?
They support a bunch of different OLTs: 
https://help.ubnt.com/hc/en-us/articles/115009335068-UFiber-GPON-Supported-Third-Party-OLTs
 
(https://help.ubnt.com/hc/en-us/articles/115009335068-UFiber-GPON-Supported-Third-Party-OLTs)
 
On Mar 8, 2018, at 7:25 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller  wrote: 
  When did they add like an entire product line? Is any of it standards / 
complaint / compatible with anything else?  I don't hear anyone talking about 
this stuff..  Sent from my smartphone

Re: [AFMUG] Aircube

[dan]

I was excited about the AirCube AC (price, aesthetic, sane out-of-box defaults, 
UNMS support) but wired NAT performance was a disappointment. The switch chip 
they used doesn’t have hardware-accelerated NAT, so it maxes out around 400 
Mbps. Worse still, the chip they chose has a variation with hardware NAT, they 
just cheaped out as they do.

March 8, 2018 7:13 AM, "Jon Lee" )> wrote:
 We have an AC model as well as the ISP models. Deployed one the other day, Set 
it up on my phone. POE is not enabled by default. I plan on setting one up and 
downloading the config file for simple deployment. 
On Mar 8, 2018 7:44 AM, "CBB - Jay Fuller"  wrote:

   You can tweak it with umns  Can you change settings using tr069 or snmp?  
Are they any good?  Anyone playing with them?  Sent from my smartphone

Re: [AFMUG] OT: This is pretty slick - that price tag though...

[Jon Lee]

This is more my style :)
http://bollingermotors.com

On Mar 7, 2018 5:16 PM, "Jason McKemie" 
wrote:

https://www.tesla.com/roadster

[AFMUG] Cross posting

[Chuck McCown]

I really should stop by and learn how they do what they do.

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Re: [AFMUG] Aircube

[Jon Lee]

We have an AC model as well as the ISP models. Deployed one the other day,
Set it up on my phone. POE is not enabled by default. I plan on setting one
up and downloading the config file for simple deployment.

On Mar 8, 2018 7:44 AM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" 
wrote:

>
> You can tweak it with umns
>
> Can you change settings using tr069  or snmp?
>
> Are they any good?
>
> Anyone playing with them?
>
> Sent from my smartphone
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Ubnt - fiber

[Jason McKemie]

Ah, thanks. That is unfortunate.

On Thursday, March 8, 2018, Cassidy B. Larson  wrote:

> 5. What third-party ONUs can I connect to the UFiber OLT?
> The UFiber ONUs are the only supported ONU that is compatible with the
> UFiber OLT. Other third-party ONUs will not connect properly to the UFiber
> OLT.
> https://help.ubnt.com/hc/en-us/articles/36301287-UFiber-GPON-FAQ
>
>
>
> On Mar 8, 2018, at 8:00 AM, Jason McKemie  com> wrote:
>
> But does Ubiquiti's OLT support other manufacturer's ONTs?
>
> On Thursday, March 8, 2018, Cassidy B. Larson  wrote:
>
>> They announced it two wispapalooza shows ago I think..  started shipping
>> a year ago or so?
>>
>> They support a bunch of different OLTs:
>>
>> https://help.ubnt.com/hc/en-us/articles/115009335068-UFiber-
>> GPON-Supported-Third-Party-OLTs
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mar 8, 2018, at 7:25 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller 
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> When did they add like an entire product line?  Is any of it standards /
>> complaint / compatible with anything else?
>>
>> I don't hear anyone talking about this stuff..
>>
>> Sent from my smartphone
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Ubnt - fiber

[Chuck McCown]

ONU can be used with other OLTs.  They have a set list of OLTs their ONU will 
work with.

From: Cassidy B. Larson 
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2018 8:06 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ubnt - fiber

5. What third-party ONUs can I connect to the UFiber OLT?
The UFiber ONUs are the only supported ONU that is compatible with the UFiber 
OLT. Other third-party ONUs will not connect properly to the UFiber OLT.
https://help.ubnt.com/hc/en-us/articles/36301287-UFiber-GPON-FAQ




  On Mar 8, 2018, at 8:00 AM, Jason McKemie  
wrote:

  But does Ubiquiti's OLT support other manufacturer's ONTs?

  On Thursday, March 8, 2018, Cassidy B. Larson  wrote:

They announced it two wispapalooza shows ago I think..  started shipping a 
year ago or so? 

They support a bunch of different OLTs:


https://help.ubnt.com/hc/en-us/articles/115009335068-UFiber-GPON-Supported-Third-Party-OLTs




  On Mar 8, 2018, at 7:25 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller  
wrote:


  When did they add like an entire product line?  Is any of it standards / 
complaint / compatible with anything else?

  I don't hear anyone talking about this stuff..  

  Sent from my smartphone

Re: [AFMUG] ubnt - rese

[Keefe John]

This has been or in beta for awhile. It works well, especially on uplink.

Keefe

On March 8, 2018 8:37:05 AM CST, CBB - Jay Fuller  
wrote:
>Custom code to better nagivate interference released today in airmax ac
>products
>
>I don't remember seeing this in the beta line...anyone played with it?
>
>Sent from my smartphone

-- 
Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

Re: [AFMUG] Ubnt - fiber

[Cassidy B. Larson]

5. What third-party ONUs can I connect to the UFiber OLT?
The UFiber ONUs are the only supported ONU that is compatible with the UFiber 
OLT. Other third-party ONUs will not connect properly to the UFiber OLT.
https://help.ubnt.com/hc/en-us/articles/36301287-UFiber-GPON-FAQ



> On Mar 8, 2018, at 8:00 AM, Jason McKemie  
> wrote:
> 
> But does Ubiquiti's OLT support other manufacturer's ONTs?
> 
> On Thursday, March 8, 2018, Cassidy B. Larson  > wrote:
> They announced it two wispapalooza shows ago I think..  started shipping a 
> year ago or so?
> 
> They support a bunch of different OLTs:
> 
> https://help.ubnt.com/hc/en-us/articles/115009335068-UFiber-GPON-Supported-Third-Party-OLTs
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 8, 2018, at 7:25 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller > > wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> When did they add like an entire product line?  Is any of it standards / 
>> complaint / compatible with anything else?
>> 
>> I don't hear anyone talking about this stuff..
>> 
>> Sent from my smartphone
>> 
> 

Re: [AFMUG] Ubnt - fiber

[Jason McKemie]

But does Ubiquiti's OLT support other manufacturer's ONTs?

On Thursday, March 8, 2018, Cassidy B. Larson  wrote:

> They announced it two wispapalooza shows ago I think..  started shipping a
> year ago or so?
>
> They support a bunch of different OLTs:
>
> https://help.ubnt.com/hc/en-us/articles/115009335068-
> UFiber-GPON-Supported-Third-Party-OLTs
>
>
>
> On Mar 8, 2018, at 7:25 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller 
> wrote:
>
>
> When did they add like an entire product line?  Is any of it standards /
> complaint / compatible with anything else?
>
> I don't hear anyone talking about this stuff..
>
> Sent from my smartphone
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Aircube

[Adair Winter]

We have some we are playing with

On Mar 8, 2018 8:44 AM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" 
wrote:

>
> You can tweak it with umns
>
> Can you change settings using tr069  or snmp?
>
> Are they any good?
>
> Anyone playing with them?
>
> Sent from my smartphone
>
>

[AFMUG] Aircube

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

You can tweak it with umns

Can you change settings using tr069  or snmp?

Are they any good?

Anyone playing with them?

Sent from my smartphone

Re: [AFMUG] Ubnt - fiber

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

That should be fun :)


Sent from my smartphone

- Reply message -
From: "Chuck McCown" 
To: 
Subject: [AFMUG] Ubnt - fiber
Date: Thu, Mar 8, 2018 8:37 AM

I will be having an AE vs GPON shootout discussion at AF 
this summer.  






From: Cassidy B. 
Larson 

Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2018 7:28 AM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ubnt - fiber




They 
announced it two wispapalooza shows ago I think..  started shipping a year 
ago or so? 


They support a bunch of different OLTs:



https://help.ubnt.com/hc/en-us/articles/115009335068-UFiber-GPON-Supported-Third-Party-OLTs











On Mar 8, 2018, at 7:25 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller 
 wrote:








When did they add like an entire product line?  Is any of it 
standards / complaint / compatible with anything else?



I don't hear anyone talking about this stuff..  




Sent from my smartphone

[AFMUG] ubnt - rese

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

Custom code to better nagivate interference released today in airmax ac products

I don't remember seeing this in the beta line...anyone played with it?

Sent from my smartphone

Re: [AFMUG] Ubnt - fiber

[Chuck McCown]

I still am not convinced that smaller cables offsets the extra complexity of 
GPON vs AE.  I will be having an AE vs GPON shootout discussion at AF this 
summer.  

From: Cassidy B. Larson 
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2018 7:28 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ubnt - fiber

They announced it two wispapalooza shows ago I think..  started shipping a year 
ago or so? 

They support a bunch of different OLTs:

https://help.ubnt.com/hc/en-us/articles/115009335068-UFiber-GPON-Supported-Third-Party-OLTs




  On Mar 8, 2018, at 7:25 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller  
wrote:


  When did they add like an entire product line?  Is any of it standards / 
complaint / compatible with anything else?

  I don't hear anyone talking about this stuff..  

  Sent from my smartphone

Re: [AFMUG] Ubnt - fiber

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

"soon" 

:)

Sent from my smartphone

- Reply message -
From: "Chuck McCown" 
To: 
Subject: [AFMUG] Ubnt - fiber
Date: Thu, Mar 8, 2018 8:27 AM

Lots of toys.  I have heard of it recently.  Looks like a $49 
ONT?  

No IPV6 support  

Really?




From: CBB - Jay Fuller 
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2018 7:25 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] Ubnt - fiber





When did they add like an entire product line?  Is any of it 
standards / complaint / compatible with anything else?

I don't hear anyone talking about this stuff..  


Sent from my smartphone

Re: [AFMUG] Ubnt - fiber

[Cassidy B. Larson]

They announced it two wispapalooza shows ago I think..  started shipping a year 
ago or so?

They support a bunch of different OLTs:

https://help.ubnt.com/hc/en-us/articles/115009335068-UFiber-GPON-Supported-Third-Party-OLTs



> On Mar 8, 2018, at 7:25 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> When did they add like an entire product line?  Is any of it standards / 
> complaint / compatible with anything else?
> 
> I don't hear anyone talking about this stuff..
> 
> Sent from my smartphone
> 

Re: [AFMUG] Ubnt - fiber

[Chuck McCown]

Lots of toys.  I have heard of it recently.  Looks like a $49 ONT?  

No IPV6 support  

Really?

From: CBB - Jay Fuller 
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2018 7:25 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] Ubnt - fiber


When did they add like an entire product line?  Is any of it standards / 
complaint / compatible with anything else?

I don't hear anyone talking about this stuff..  

Sent from my smartphone

[AFMUG] Ubnt - fiber

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

When did they add like an entire product line?  Is any of it standards / 
complaint / compatible with anything else?

I don't hear anyone talking about this stuff..  

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Re: [AFMUG] AnimalFarm Summer Session

[Chuck McCown]

Oh and eating mass quantities of smoked dead animals on day 2 as well.

From: Chuck McCown 
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2018 7:10 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: AnimalFarm Summer Session

Second week of June.
Day 1 in a hotel meeting room near SLC Airport.
Day 2 my place about 15 minutes West of the SLC Airport.

Tentative Topics
Fiber topology and system design options
Splicing
Materials
Equipment
System Costs

Horizontal Directional Drilling operation
Vacuum Excavation operation
Vibratory plow
Splicing Trailers
Trenching
Missile/Hole Hawg

Going to try to get Ditch Witch and Vermeer to bring their toys.
But if the don’t want to do that I have my own.  

[AFMUG] AnimalFarm Summer Session

[Chuck McCown]

Second week of June.
Day 1 in a hotel meeting room near SLC Airport.
Day 2 my place about 15 minutes West of the SLC Airport.

Tentative Topics
Fiber topology and system design options
Splicing
Materials
Equipment
System Costs

Horizontal Directional Drilling operation
Vacuum Excavation operation
Vibratory plow
Splicing Trailers
Trenching
Missile/Hole Hawg

Going to try to get Ditch Witch and Vermeer to bring their toys.
But if the don’t want to do that I have my own.