Re: [AFMUG] APC UPS remote energy usage monitoring

[Sean Heskett]

What templates are you liking for?  If you ask on this list you will
usually find what you are looking for

On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 9:56 PM Adam Moffett  wrote:

> I don't see a lot of WISP equipment in their template repository.  Out of
> curiosity is there a place where people share templates for Cambium,
> Ceragon, etc?   How hard is it to make templates?
>
> I don't use Cacti, but I've been thinking about it.
>
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Sean Heskett" 
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: 3/15/2018 2:33:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] APC UPS remote energy usage monitoring
>
> consumption at a tower should be pretty constant unless you have a lot of
> HVAC turning on and off.
>
> here's a good cacti template
>
> https://docs.cacti.net/usertemplate:data:apc:apcupsd
>
> -sean
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 1:14 AM, Kurt Fankhauser  > wrote:
>
>> I have several of the APC SMX with Network Management card installed a
>> remote towers. These will show me historical data for energy usage at the
>> site. (see attached pic)
>>
>> Is there any way to pull data from these with SNMP and have it put into a
>> website showing Multiple tower sites and how much power they have consumed
>> per site per month? Maybe someone has already made a script or something
>> that does this? I am willing to pay someone to make this if its possible to
>> do.
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Test test

[Keefe John]

This list is eating messages.  I responded to this earlier and didn't 
get it yet.



On 3/16/2018 3:35 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote:

Is this thing on? Messages seem to be being delayed by days.

[AFMUG] Test uno dos tres

[Jaime Solorza]

I posted something a while ago

Jaime Solorza

Re: [AFMUG] How far from a tower is safe?

[Bill Prince]

Plus how good their arm is... I knew a kid in high school who could 
throw strikes with a hardball at 300 feet.


bp


On 3/16/2018 6:43 PM, Sean Heskett wrote:

Haha then there’s that...good point chuck!

-sean


On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 10:40 AM Chuck McCown > wrote:


It depends on whether they are aiming for you...

-Original Message-
From: Jay Weekley
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 9:25 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] How far from a tower is safe?

I've heard there is a formula to determine how far from a tower
someone
can be to be safe from objects that are dropped.  You know, wrenches
etc.  Can anyone give me some quick guidance?

Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: 8 hours no lunch

[Jaime Solorza]

Believe me.. makes Troubleshooting a breeze and looks professional so they
don't balk when I charge 75 to 150 an hour...

Jaime Solorza

On Fri, Mar 16, 2018, 4:35 PM Adam Moffett  wrote:

> They are pretty, but I couldn't consume that much space with wire duct.
> Space = money.
>
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Darin Steffl" 
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: 3/15/2018 10:54:42 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: 8 hours no lunch
>
> Beautiful work of art!
>
> On Mar 14, 2018 8:38 AM, "Jaime Solorza" 
> wrote:
>
>> test
>> Jaime Solorza
>> Wireless Systems Architect
>> 915-861-1390 <(915)%20861-1390>
>>
>> -- Forwarded message --
>> From: Jaime Solorza 
>> Date: Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 5:23 PM
>> Subject: 8 hours no lunch
>> To: Animal Farm 
>>
>>
>> Tested and certifiedyay us
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] handy dog proofing for service truck

[TJ Trout]

sawed off shotgun?

On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 3:57 PM, Steve Jones 
wrote:

> Being back in the grind now, Im finding installers just keep replacing
> cable on animal chews. Yesterday I had to take everything off a yagi and
> tapcon the pipe to a brick wall to protect cable from getting rechewed.
> when I was installer kept random scrap stuff and DS mounts to run cable
> through nice and ghetto when customers wouldnt screen off exposed areas.
>
> I have some liquidtight scrap that might be worth throwing in the van.
>
> this is all residential, we dont charge for service calls or incidentals,
> so i need something on the cheap to stock in the van that doesnt take up
> alot of real estate on the shelves.
>
> I had even considered rigid 1/2 conduit and a bender, but I doubt most
> techs weve had would be able to operate that
>

Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: 8 hours no lunch

[Seth Mattinen]

On 3/16/18 3:28 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote:

On 3/15/18 7:48 AM, Carl Peterson wrote:

How is that thing attached to the door?



Probably an HMI with bezel larger than the hole.





Sent this on 3/15/18 at 07:50 pacific time, just now seeing it hit the 
list on the 16th at 13:50

Re: [AFMUG] testing

[Seth Mattinen]

On 3/15/18 6:32 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
I posted two items and they haven't made to list in two days.  Must be 
Russians or Aliens.


Nothing I'm sending has been showing up that I can tell.

Re: [AFMUG] Require Recent Web Browser?

[Christopher Tyler]

That's what VM's are for.

-- 
Christopher Tyler 
MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE 
Total Highspeed Internet Services 
417.851.1107

- Original Message -
From: "Adam Moffett" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2018 3:17:54 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Require Recent Web Browser?

Personally, I'm less concerned about requiring a recent browser as I am 
about requiring an antique one.  I have a Windows XP VM with IE6 just to 
manage certain old devices that won't work in a recent browser.

If you have some Timelord magic to make an application that will work in 
the recent browsers 10 years from now, then please do that.


-- Original Message --
From: "Forrest Christian (List Account)" 
To: "af" 
Sent: 3/14/2018 7:49:36 PM
Subject: [AFMUG] Require Recent Web Browser?

>A bit of a survey here
>
>A couple of features I'm looking at for current/future products would 
>be much easier to implement using a certain feature found only in 
>relatively new web browsers, aka, Chrome/Firefox/Edge updated within 
>the last year.
>
>One specific browser feature I'm looking at is webassembly.  Various 
>tools out there indicate that around 87% of the installed/active 
>browsers on the internet are recent enough for native support.   Most 
>of the browsers gained support for this feature early to mid last year. 
>   With autoupdates being the rule instead of the exception, anyone on a 
>recent auto-updating web browser should support this.  I'm mostly 
>concerned about 'the rest'.
>
>Support for the older browsers is possible, but it adds a level of 
>complexity (specifically a level of testing) which I would prefer not 
>to do if I could get away without it.
>
>To be clear:  Almost all of the functionality of the upcoming products 
>won't require these functions.  A specific example of something that 
>might require this is setting up the scripting functionality as I'm 
>looking at various technologies which would work best if I could run a 
>chunk of webassembly code in the browser as part of the code editor.  
>However, other than editing a script, the rest of the functionality 
>would work fine.
>
>Thoughts?
>
>--
>Forrest Christian CEO, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.
>Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
>forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com 
>
>  
>  
>

Re: [AFMUG] Test test

[Jay Weekley]

Same here.

Matt Hoppes wrote:

Is this thing on? Messages seem to be being delayed by days.

---
This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
http://www.avg.com

Re: [AFMUG] testing

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

Fail 

Sent from my smartphone

- Reply message -
From: "Darin Steffl" 
To: 
Subject: [AFMUG] testing
Date: Fri, Mar 16, 2018 4:17 PM

I've seen both your emails from yesterday and responded to one of them. 

On Mar 15, 2018 8:32 AM, "Jaime Solorza"  wrote:I 
posted two items and they haven't made to list in two days.  Must be Russians 
or Aliens.

Jaime Solorza

On Wed, Mar 14, 2018, 4:21 AM Justin Marshall  wrote:








testing

Re: [AFMUG] testing

[Mike Hammett]

The list has been slow lately. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Jaime Solorza"  
To: "Animal Farm"  
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 8:32:15 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] testing 


I posted two items and they haven't made to list in two days. Must be Russians 
or Aliens. 


Jaime Solorza 


On Wed, Mar 14, 2018, 4:21 AM Justin Marshall < just...@pdmnet.net > wrote: 





testing 

Re: [AFMUG] Generic LTE CPEs used with Baicells, Telrad etc.

[Mike Hammett]

https://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?p=648571#p648571 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Joe Novak"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 11:11:20 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Generic LTE CPEs used with Baicells, Telrad etc. 


The only thing I have to say about that is if you intend on using the Baicell's 
proprietary method of L2 to the customer (VXLAN from the CPE to the eNB is what 
'may' happen (soonTM)) you may not be able to do it, if that matters to you. It 
won't break the LTE standard from what it sounds like though. 


On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 8:33 PM, Paul McCall < pa...@pdmnet.net > wrote: 





What CPEs are you using on the LTE gear? From most powerful to most 
cost-effective? 

We are using the ones that Baicells sells with their gear, but looking to 
sharpen our pencil on the scenario as we have a couple hundred users to roll 
out in the next 90 days. (hopefully) 

Has anyone pulled some in from China directly? We have some experience with 
importing “widgets” from China, so that would be quite appealing, if anyone has 
experience with that 

Paul 

Paul McCall, President 
PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc. 
658 Old Dixie Highway 
Vero Beach, FL 32962 
772-564-6800 
pa...@pdmnet.net 
www.pdmnet.com 
www.floridabroadband.com 

Re: [AFMUG] Test test

[Steve Jones]

rusty pipes

On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 3:35 PM, Matt Hoppes <
mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:

> Is this thing on? Messages seem to be being delayed by days.
>

Re: [AFMUG] Test test

[Seth Mattinen]

On 3/16/18 13:35, Matt Hoppes wrote:

Is this thing on? Messages seem to be being delayed by days.



I sent a couple messages the other day and haven't seen any of them yet. 
Maybe I won't make it either.

Re: [AFMUG] Test test

[Keefe John]

That's because the internet is a series of tubes.  "It's not a big 
truck. And if you don't understand, those tubes can be filled and if 
they are filled, when you put your message in, it gets in line and it's 
going to be delayed by anyone that puts into that tube enormous amounts 
of material, enormous amounts of material."


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f99PcP0aFNE


On 3/16/2018 3:35 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote:

Is this thing on? Messages seem to be being delayed by days.

Re: [AFMUG] Test test

[chuck]

I noticed that too on my posting to the list.  I get one copy immediately 
then another much later.


-Original Message- 
From: Matt Hoppes

Sent: Friday, March 16, 2018 2:35 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Test test

Is this thing on? Messages seem to be being delayed by days. 

Re: [AFMUG] Test test

[Mathew Howard]

I've noticed that messages I've sent to the list have been taking a few
hours to show up pretty often over the past couple weeks.

On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 3:35 PM, Matt Hoppes <
mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:

> Is this thing on? Messages seem to be being delayed by days.
>

Re: [AFMUG] Test test

[Carl Peterson]

I unplugged the internet for the weekend and went home.  Should I not have done 
that?

> On Mar 16, 2018, at 4:35 PM, Matt Hoppes  
> wrote:
> 
> Is this thing on? Messages seem to be being delayed by days.

Re: [AFMUG] Require Recent Web Browser?

[Mathew Howard]

True. I keep an XP VM running for the same reasons...

On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 3:17 PM, Adam Moffett  wrote:

> Personally, I'm less concerned about requiring a recent browser as I am
> about requiring an antique one.  I have a Windows XP VM with IE6 just to
> manage certain old devices that won't work in a recent browser.
>
> If you have some Timelord magic to make an application that will work in
> the recent browsers 10 years from now, then please do that.
>
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Forrest Christian (List Account)" 
> To: "af" 
> Sent: 3/14/2018 7:49:36 PM
> Subject: [AFMUG] Require Recent Web Browser?
>
> A bit of a survey here
>
> A couple of features I'm looking at for current/future products would be
> much easier to implement using a certain feature found only in relatively
> new web browsers, aka, Chrome/Firefox/Edge updated within the last year.
>
> One specific browser feature I'm looking at is webassembly.  Various tools
> out there indicate that around 87% of the installed/active browsers on the
> internet are recent enough for native support.   Most of the browsers
> gained support for this feature early to mid last year.   With autoupdates
> being the rule instead of the exception, anyone on a recent auto-updating
> web browser should support this.  I'm mostly concerned about 'the rest'.
>
> Support for the older browsers is possible, but it adds a level of
> complexity (specifically a level of testing) which I would prefer not to do
> if I could get away without it.
>
> To be clear:  Almost all of the functionality of the upcoming products
> won't require these functions.  A specific example of something that might
> require this is setting up the scripting functionality as I'm looking at
> various technologies which would work best if I could run a chunk of
> webassembly code in the browser as part of the code editor.  However, other
> than editing a script, the rest of the functionality would work fine.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> --
> *Forrest Christian* *CEO**, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.*
> Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
> 
> forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com
>   
>   
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus

[James Howard]

But were you mostly dead all day?

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2018 3:09 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus

But Inigo Montoya was not the six fingered man, the six fingered man was Count 
Rugen.


-- Original Message --
From: "Matt Hoppes" 
>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 3/15/2018 8:45:07 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus

It’s In Di Go. Like the color. Not In Dee Go. Like a butchered version of the 
six fingered man.

On Mar 14, 2018, at 04:27, Josh Reynolds 
> wrote:
That's how it's pronounced...

Maybe a regional thing?

On Mar 11, 2018 2:02 PM, "Matt Hoppes" 
> 
wrote:
GTC does this too. I don’t know why it’s so hard.

The company I used to work for was “Indigo Wireless”. They always say In Dee Go.

On Mar 11, 2018, at 14:50, Sterling Jacobson 
> wrote:
They are working well for us, and I have a horrible generic support DT, lol!

I have had zero complaints from my customers so far this year, so I think they 
are doing well.

The only feedback I’ve had is customers hear our company name pronounced five 
different ways, even though the DT instructs the proper pronunciation.

But it’s a made-up name so my customer are always confused on pronunciation 
themselves.


From: Af > On Behalf Of 
ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2018 11:25 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus

I would add that Layne’s service is only as good as the decision tree that you 
provide to him.  The more detailed DT, the better the service will be.

From: Layne Sisk
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2018 10:48 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Serverplus

I would like to share some solid stats with the group.  Please see those below. 
 The comment about a decline is hard to address without looking at stats.  Kind 
of like the user that calls you and vaguely  says “My internet seems slow” when 
you have stats that show they are getting more than they are paying for.  We 
have hired a number of new people recently because we have grown and have added 
a new office but as Justin said this is a slow time of the year so we also took 
advantage of this time to get rid of some of our weaker performers.  Here are 
the company wide stats for the past week with some comments about them, I would 
stack these up against any call center in the world.  Sorry if I come on 
strong, but as you all know this is my baby and I care a lot about it just like 
you do about your networks.  I know we are not perfect, out of 6000 calls I am 
sure we made a mistake or two and I am happy to address any individual issue 
directly, but I am pretty proud of what we do.


OFFICE STATS









SP

GOAL

Comment

AVERAGE TALK TIME









0:11:05

0:10:00

Down from over 13 min 2 months ago

  TOTAL TALK TIME VS SCHEDULED









69.94%

80%

This is agent utilization

SURVEY SCORE









91.66%

95%

91.66% of callers would recommend the service That  is a number any company 
would kill for

SURVEY TAKEN









20.57%

20%

A full 20% of callers responded to our survey, that number is unheard of

TECH ESCALATION









39.31%

20%

Higher escalation percentage this week because of the storms and significant 
network outages

ESCALATION APPROVAL TIME









0:11:47

0:10:00

Down from over 30 min 4 months ago

QA SCORE









92.05%

95%

Happy to share our QA form with anyone who would like to see it












































COMPANY STATS









SP

GOAL



















CALL WAIT TIME









0:01:52

2:00

Less than 2 min wait time even though our SLA is less than 3

BILLABLE CALLS









6112

10,000

Reflection of the slow season

















ABANDONED TIME









0.37

2:00

Outage recordings cause people to hang up once they hear the recording

































CALLS TAKEN PER HOUR









4.10

5.45

This is calls answered per worked hour



















Layne Sisk
ServerPlus
801.426.8283, ext 102

[http://i.imgur.com/VOz763A.png]
[http://i.imgur.com/xvQYYWa.png]
[http://i.imgur.com/ELG0AB1.png]
   

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2018 10:30 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Serverplus

Has anyone noted a consistent decline in quality with these guys, and a large 
number of different tech names in their tickets?
Its almost looking like they outsourced their outsourcing.

Re: [AFMUG] Down tilt for 450i

[Dave]

anywhere from .5 to 1.5 degrees if your 100' or so above average terrain.


On 03/15/2018 10:03 PM, Jay Weekley wrote:
We're putting up a KP Performance KPPA-900DP-90S for use with the 900 
MHz 450i APs. How much down tilt would you use to serve customers up 
to 7 miles away? It has zero electrical down tilt


--

Re: [AFMUG] Require Recent Web Browser?

[Keefe John]

Upgrade browser or GTFO. :)


On 3/16/2018 2:11 PM, Simon Westlake wrote:
I can't speak for your customers, but we 100% require a modern browser 
for Sonar due to similar requirements, and it has yet to be an issue. 
I think the days of people squatting on Internet Explorer 6 are over 
for technical users. In the extremely rare cases that someone is using 
an older browser, asking them to update has never been met with any 
resistance.


On 3/14/2018 6:49 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:

A bit of a survey here

A couple of features I'm looking at for current/future products would 
be much easier to implement using a certain feature found only in 
relatively new web browsers, aka, Chrome/Firefox/Edge updated within 
the last year.


One specific browser feature I'm looking at is webassembly.  Various 
tools out there indicate that around 87% of the installed/active 
browsers on the internet are recent enough for native support.   Most 
of the browsers gained support for this feature early to mid last 
year.  With autoupdates being the rule instead of the exception, 
anyone on a recent auto-updating web browser should support this.  
I'm mostly concerned about 'the rest'.


Support for the older browsers is possible, but it adds a level of 
complexity (specifically a level of testing) which I would prefer not 
to do if I could get away without it.


To be clear:  Almost all of the functionality of the upcoming 
products won't require these functions.  A specific example of 
something that might require this is setting up the scripting 
functionality as I'm looking at various technologies which would work 
best if I could run a chunk of webassembly code in the browser as 
part of the code editor. However, other than editing a script, the 
rest of the functionality would work fine.


Thoughts?

--
*Forrest Christian* /CEO//, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc./
Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
forre...@imach.com  | 
http://www.packetflux.com 
 
 





--
Simon Westlake | CEO
simon@sonar.software
(702) 447-1247
https://sonar.software

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Down tilt for 450i

[Mark Radabaugh]

Same here - though our ground is very flat.Put it up at -1 degree, find a 
far (9mile), mid (5 mile), and near (1 mile) customer and adjust downtilt until 
the mid customer peaks and verify that the near and far customers are still 
acceptable.   For us what works for the mid customer is also best for the far.  
Generally ends up around -1 but varies with tower height and antenna 
manufacturer.

While F/B ratio is very important in 5.7 for frequency reuse it’s critical in 
3.65.   Cambiums antenna’s they spec from the 3.65 product are really pretty 
decent for F/B ratio.   If you can find something better that’s great, but 
don’t go down in F/B ratio if you want to operate in A/B/A/B unless you have 
some other method of ensuring that the close in CPE are only going to ‘see’ the 
front side of the desired sector or there will be issues with poor modulation 
on the near customers.

Mark

> On Mar 16, 2018, at 1:06 AM, Sean Heskett  wrote:
> 
> Most likely zero...but here’s how we do it.
> 
> Hang the AP and aim it where you think it should be aimed and leave the 
> doentilt at zero (unless you have a huge height difference like a 1000’ feet 
> or more) then Install 2-4 SMs, or have your installers hang out with an SM 
> connected to the AP scattered around where you think you want coverage, then 
> move the AP to get the best signal at those SMs.
> 
> You can use all the calculators you want but this method works every time.  
> We have to do this because typically our tower is on top of a mountain and 
> there is a 3000’+ height difference between AP and SM.
> 
> -2cents
> 
> -sean
> 
> 
> On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 5:45 PM Jay Weekley  > wrote:
> We're putting up a KP Performance KPPA-900DP-90S for use with the 900
> MHz 450i APs. How much down tilt would you use to serve customers up to
> 7 miles away? It has zero electrical down tilt
> ___
> Members mailing list
> memb...@wispa.org 
> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/members 
> 
> ___
> Members mailing list
> memb...@wispa.org
> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/members

Re: [AFMUG] How far from a tower is safe?

[Ben Royer]

HAHA... Reminds me of the joke about how they get the ‘Feels Like’ temp at the 
Weather Station.

Hey Intern go walk out into the parking lot...

(Yelling from the building) ‘WHAT’S IT FEEL LIKE!?’

Thank you,
Ben Royer, Operations Manager
Royell Communications, Inc.
217-965-3699 www.royell.net

From: Jaime Solorza 
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 9:21 PM
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] How far from a tower is safe?

Away


Jaime Solorza

On Wed, Mar 14, 2018, 9:25 AM Jay Weekley  wrote:

  I've heard there is a formula to determine how far from a tower someone
  can be to be safe from objects that are dropped.  You know, wrenches
  etc.  Can anyone give me some quick guidance?

[AFMUG] -48 VDC supply needed

[chuck]

Looking for universal input (AC 85-240 volts)
Isolated 48 VDC output.  1.5 amp continuous.  
I can go din rail, prefer not to.  There is always meanwell.
Pricy...

Re: [AFMUG] Require Recent Web Browser?

[chuck]

As long as netscape still works I am good.  

From: Sean Heskett 
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 11:14 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Require Recent Web Browser?

Use modern technologies.  Your customer base is tech savvy enough and should 
not be using old browsers and if they are then too bad.

2 cents

-sean


On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 5:49 PM Forrest Christian (List Account) 
 wrote:

  A bit of a survey here 

  A couple of features I'm looking at for current/future products would be much 
easier to implement using a certain feature found only in relatively new web 
browsers, aka, Chrome/Firefox/Edge updated within the last year.

  One specific browser feature I'm looking at is webassembly.  Various tools 
out there indicate that around 87% of the installed/active browsers on the 
internet are recent enough for native support.   Most of the browsers gained 
support for this feature early to mid last year.   With autoupdates being the 
rule instead of the exception, anyone on a recent auto-updating web browser 
should support this.  I'm mostly concerned about 'the rest'.

  Support for the older browsers is possible, but it adds a level of complexity 
(specifically a level of testing) which I would prefer not to do if I could get 
away without it. 

  To be clear:  Almost all of the functionality of the upcoming products won't 
require these functions.  A specific example of something that might require 
this is setting up the scripting functionality as I'm looking at various 
technologies which would work best if I could run a chunk of webassembly code 
in the browser as part of the code editor.  However, other than editing a 
script, the rest of the functionality would work fine.

  Thoughts?

  -- 

Forrest Christian CEO, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.

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Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Down tilt for 450i

[Mathew Howard]

I'd tip it down a few degrees and call it a day... just like I do with any
other sector.

On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 11:33 PM, Jeff Broadwick - Lists 
wrote:

> I’d put it into LinkPlanner.
>
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> > On Mar 14, 2018, at 8:25 PM, Jay Weekley 
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> > Actually, we'll probably only want to cover 5 miles at most.
> >
> > Jay Weekley wrote:
> >> We're putting up a KP Performance KPPA-900DP-90S for use with the 900
> >> MHz 450i APs. How much down tilt would you use to serve customers up to
> >> 7 miles away? It has zero electrical down tilt
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