Re: [AFMUG] Little DC Connector

[Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T)]

Is that the same thing as on a PacketFlux site monitor?

 

 

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Monday, April 9, 2018 9:12 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Little DC Connector

 

 



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From: "Mike Hammett" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Sunday, April 8, 2018 6:09:57 PM
Subject: [AFMUG] Little DC Connector

Where can I get more of these?

Well, probably lots of places, but I don't know what they're called, part 
number, etc.



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Re: [AFMUG] CPU - when to upgrade

[Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T)]

I really want…

 

A MikroTik 

About the size of 3011

12 – 16 ports with POE out on all ports (24v and 48v) regulated so not to 
release the magic ubnt smoke

1ghz + cpu

DC input

A build in battery charge controller (wishful thinking)

 

:-)

 

 

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Friday, April 6, 2018 12:26 PM
To: af
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CPU - when to upgrade

 

I have no idea why they don't sell them that way, we have about half a dozen of 
them in 2011 cases, and they don't seem to have any heat issues. 

 

On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 9:23 PM, Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T) <r...@latrobeit.com.au> 
wrote:

The 3011 in a 2011 case is an option, I worry tho, why did they not bring it 
out in this config, heat?

 

Thanks again

 

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Baird
Sent: Friday, April 6, 2018 12:18 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CPU - when to upgrade

 

850gx2?  3011 in a 2011 case?


On Apr 5, 2018, at 9:40 PM, Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T) <r...@latrobeit.com.au> 
wrote:

Hey

 

Thanks for that.

All different models, 2011’s at lower end of small towers.

Was thinking of going to hexpoe and a POE switch for a bit more, space 
is a thing.

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Friday, April 6, 2018 11:11 AM
To: af
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CPU - when to upgrade

 

I start getting paranoid if I see more than about 25% CPU load on a 
Mikrotik... whether or not that's actually having any impact on performance, I 
don't know, but I suspect at 70% it is - I would certainly upgrade it to 
something faster at that point. What model of Mikrotik is it? 

 

On Thu, Apr 5, 2018, 7:24 PM Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T) 
<r...@latrobeit.com.au> wrote:

Hi Guys

 

When you have a router and cpu is hitting about 60 – 70% with 
traffic load would that impact speeds?

I’ve got a few links that don’t seem to go as hard as they 
should, but I can’t find the reason.

The routers are MikroTik and the radios (also highish cpu) are 
ubnt with plenty of airtime free)

Hmmm, That’s another question, at what Airtime % will you start 
to see impacted performance?

 

 

Thanks

 

Rhys

 

 

Re: [AFMUG] CPU - when to upgrade

[Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T)]

The 3011 in a 2011 case is an option, I worry tho, why did they not bring it 
out in this config, heat?

 

Thanks again

 

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Baird
Sent: Friday, April 6, 2018 12:18 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CPU - when to upgrade

 

850gx2?  3011 in a 2011 case?


On Apr 5, 2018, at 9:40 PM, Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T) <r...@latrobeit.com.au> 
wrote:

Hey

 

Thanks for that.

All different models, 2011’s at lower end of small towers.

Was thinking of going to hexpoe and a POE switch for a bit more, space 
is a thing.

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Friday, April 6, 2018 11:11 AM
To: af
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CPU - when to upgrade

 

I start getting paranoid if I see more than about 25% CPU load on a 
Mikrotik... whether or not that's actually having any impact on performance, I 
don't know, but I suspect at 70% it is - I would certainly upgrade it to 
something faster at that point. What model of Mikrotik is it? 

 

On Thu, Apr 5, 2018, 7:24 PM Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T) 
<r...@latrobeit.com.au> wrote:

Hi Guys

 

When you have a router and cpu is hitting about 60 – 70% with 
traffic load would that impact speeds?

I’ve got a few links that don’t seem to go as hard as they 
should, but I can’t find the reason.

The routers are MikroTik and the radios (also highish cpu) are 
ubnt with plenty of airtime free)

Hmmm, That’s another question, at what Airtime % will you start 
to see impacted performance?

 

 

Thanks

 

Rhys

 

Re: [AFMUG] [AusNOG] CPU - when to upgrade

[Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T)]

Hello

No fastpath, I'll look into that.

Thanks

Rhys


-Original Message-
From: Andrew Oakeley [mailto:and...@oakeley.com.au] 
Sent: Friday, April 6, 2018 11:58 AM
To: Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T)
Subject: RE: [AusNOG] CPU - when to upgrade

> We are a very small wireless ISP (around 2000 customers) and run MikroTik 
> router kit (I know I know...) I can see its normally firewall and routing 
> process's that use most.

I have some mikrotik routers constantly running 100% CPU on encryption, this 
does not seem to be affecting any other traffic going through the routers. But 
as most of your CPU is on routing/firewall that will affect other traffic. Are 
you using FastPath?

Andy

-Original Message-
From: AusNOG <ausnog-boun...@lists.ausnog.net> On Behalf Of Rhys Cuff (Latrobe 
I.T)
Sent: Friday, 6 April 2018 9:44 AM
To: aus...@lists.ausnog.net
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] CPU - when to upgrade

Hi Guys

Thanks very much for the responses.
We are a very small wireless ISP (around 2000 customers) and run MikroTik 
router kit (I know I know...) I can see its normally firewall and routing 
process's that use most.
Running around 300mbps on the routers in question.
I can certainly upgrade, just wasn’t sure if it was worth it.
MikroTik don’t have much kit that is small and runs 24v.

Thanks again

Rhys




-Original Message-
From: Graeme Allen [mailto:m...@graemeallen.com]
Sent: Friday, April 6, 2018 11:22 AM
To: Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T)
Cc: aus...@lists.ausnog.net
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] CPU - when to upgrade

Hi Rhys,

If you are looking at an MRTG style graph, then as Jim points out you are 
probably looking at a 5 minute rolling average, and the peaks will very likely 
be much higher and yes possibly impacting performance.

For a more instant view of the CPU, do a "show proc cpu history", this will 
show you the spikes (assuming csco).

Assuming the box you are using is not just under-powered, you need to look at 
what is hitting the cpu and see if you can control/remove it.

Chasing "links that don't seem to go as hard as they should", oh man, that's 
such a can of subjective worms..


On Fri, April 6, 2018 10:51 am, Jim Woodward wrote:
> On 06-04-2018 10:21, Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T) wrote:
>
>
> Hi Rhys,
>
>
> If it's a Cisco I have found that once you start hitting 70% you'll 
> start to see Latency creep up, this in turn will likely to have an 
> overall effect on achievable speeds.
>
> If the 70% figure is an average then peaks may be quite a bit higher, 
> I would consider working on a plan to upgrade the device(s) or do the 
> usual process of looking at your configuration to see if you have any 
> misconfigured/redundant ACL's or or routing policies that may be 
> eating into your CPU performance.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
> Jim.
>
>
>> FROM: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-boun...@lists.ausnog.net] ON BEHALF OF 
>> Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T)
>> SENT: Friday, April 6, 2018 10:19 AM
>> TO: aus...@lists.ausnog.net
>> SUBJECT: [AusNOG] CPU - when to upfrade
>>
>>
>> Hi Guys
>>
>>
>> When you have a router and cpu is hitting about 60 - 70% with traffic 
>> load would that impact speeds?
>>
>> I've got a few links that don't seem to go as hard as they should, 
>> but I can't find the 
>> reason.___
>>
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> aus...@lists.ausnog.net
> http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
>
>


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Re: [AFMUG] CPU - when to upgrade

[Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T)]

I’ve never looked into that fasttrack, I’ll do some research now.

Connection tracking off helps a lot.

 

 

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Colin Stanners
Sent: Friday, April 6, 2018 11:44 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CPU - when to upgrade

 

Are you using the FastTrack firewall rule? That can reduce CPU usage quite a 
bit depending on what the routers are doing.

 

Is that CPU % at peak time? If so I would look at upgrading some.

On Thu, Apr 5, 2018, 7:24 PM Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T) <r...@latrobeit.com.au> 
wrote:

Hi Guys

 

When you have a router and cpu is hitting about 60 – 70% with traffic 
load would that impact speeds?

I’ve got a few links that don’t seem to go as hard as they should, but 
I can’t find the reason.

The routers are MikroTik and the radios (also highish cpu) are ubnt 
with plenty of airtime free)

Hmmm, That’s another question, at what Airtime % will you start to see 
impacted performance?

 

 

Thanks

 

Rhys

 

Re: [AFMUG] CPU - when to upgrade

[Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T)]

Hey

 

Thanks for that.

All different models, 2011’s at lower end of small towers.

Was thinking of going to hexpoe and a POE switch for a bit more, space is a 
thing.

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Friday, April 6, 2018 11:11 AM
To: af
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CPU - when to upgrade

 

I start getting paranoid if I see more than about 25% CPU load on a Mikrotik... 
whether or not that's actually having any impact on performance, I don't know, 
but I suspect at 70% it is - I would certainly upgrade it to something faster 
at that point. What model of Mikrotik is it? 

 

On Thu, Apr 5, 2018, 7:24 PM Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T) <r...@latrobeit.com.au> 
wrote:

Hi Guys

 

When you have a router and cpu is hitting about 60 – 70% with traffic 
load would that impact speeds?

I’ve got a few links that don’t seem to go as hard as they should, but 
I can’t find the reason.

The routers are MikroTik and the radios (also highish cpu) are ubnt 
with plenty of airtime free)

Hmmm, That’s another question, at what Airtime % will you start to see 
impacted performance?

 

 

Thanks

 

Rhys

 

[AFMUG] CPU - when to upgrade

[Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T)]

Hi Guys

 

When you have a router and cpu is hitting about 60 - 70% with traffic
load would that impact speeds?

I've got a few links that don't seem to go as hard as they should, but I
can't find the reason.

The routers are MikroTik and the radios (also highish cpu) are ubnt with
plenty of airtime free)

Hmmm, That's another question, at what Airtime % will you start to see
impacted performance?

 

 

Thanks

 

Rhys

 

Re: [AFMUG] 450 no sync

[Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T)]

Ok, as it turns out a reboot didn't fix it but a power cycle did ;-)



Sent from my iPhone

> On 18 Sep 2017, at 5:15 pm, Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T) <r...@latrobeit.com.au> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hello
>  
> I am using a 3.6ghz 450 with internal sync.
> It now is not syncing.
>  
> Sync pulse source says “Searching”
> Onboard GPS says “No Sync”
> GPS Receiver says “Acquiring GPS Information...”
>  
> Does anyone have any ideas on how to fix this?
>  
> Thanks
>  
> Rhys
>  
>  
>  

[AFMUG] 450 no sync

[Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T)]

Hello

 

I am using a 3.6ghz 450 with internal sync.

It now is not syncing.

 

Sync pulse source says "Searching"

Onboard GPS says "No Sync"

GPS Receiver says "Acquiring GPS Information..."

 

Does anyone have any ideas on how to fix this?

 

Thanks

 

Rhys

 

 

 

Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion]

[Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T)]

I completely agree with this.

You can Google anything you like that will agree with what you want to happen.

 

For me, I’m just going with what seems natural, mostly plant based diet with 
the odd BBQ thrown in for fun :-)

 

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2017 10:47 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion]

 

You'll always find a study proves or disproves anything you want.

I don't mean cereal either. Juice, eggs, meat, etc.

Weight management is mostly about balanced meals in appropriate quantities.



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From: "Chuck McCown" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 5:44:33 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion]

Recent studies say otherwise.  A myth promulgated by Special K.  

 

From: Mike Hammett 

Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 4:43 PM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion]

 

Not having breakfast is part of your problem.



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From: "Chuck McCown" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 5:27:49 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion]

While I am sure that the mix of the food you eat has a significant effect on 
your health, pretty sure almost all of us eat too much.  And I don’t think you 
can generalize too much because your genetics affect how you metabolize your 
food.  Eskimos can survive and thrive without fruit and veggies.  My wife is 
Swedish and wants nothing but meat.  I don’t ever want meat.  

 

I wish I could just cut back.  It doesn’t seem like I eat too much but the 
numbers say I do.  Most days I don’t have breakfast, I have a 300 cal microwave 
meal and then one smallish plate of home cooked in the evening.  Not lots of 
snacks.  Still the pounds are up, the triglycerides are up, the blood sugar is 
up. 

 

Perhaps meth is the answer.  Have been watching Breaking Bad straight through 
since the holidays.  Just started the final season yesterday.

 

From: Bill Prince 

Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 4:20 PM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion]

 

You ought to read "The Big Fat Surprise" by Nina Teicholz 
(https://www.amazon.com/Big-Fat-Surprise-Butter-Healthy/dp/1451624425). 

Her contention is that a guy by the name of Ancel Keys started it all when he 
published a study in the 1950s called "The seven country study". In it he 
asserted that the so-called "Mediterranean diet" was the key to good health. 
Her research contends that the seven country study was cherry picked from a 
study of about 30 countries. Keys went on a multi-decade crusade to sell his 
theory, and a bunch of other questionable dietary studies. 

The American diet changed from a largely meat-centric (and higher in fat) diet 
to the allegedly healthy low-fat diet of today.

Part of her analysis looks at the remarkably successful Atkins diet that turns 
the Mediterranean diet on its head.

 

bp

 

On 1/22/2017 2:55 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:

The more medical research I do, the more history I read, the more I'm 
rapidly coming to the belief that the increase in processed sugar in the 1940s 
and beyond in American foods has had a hugely negative effect on our current 
social, mental health, medical, and political issues. Not that it's the root 
cause (way too many factors), but it's definitely a huge contributing factor. 

 

Has anybody else looked up any research on this lately?

 

 

 

Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion]

[Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T)]

Ha, I so agree with this

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2017 10:45 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion]

 

Recent studies say otherwise.  A myth promulgated by Special K.  

 

From: Mike Hammett 

Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 4:43 PM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion]

 

Not having breakfast is part of your problem.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions  
   
  
  
 
Midwest Internet Exchange  
   
  
 
The Brothers WISP  
  


 



From: "Chuck McCown" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 5:27:49 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion]

While I am sure that the mix of the food you eat has a significant effect on 
your health, pretty sure almost all of us eat too much.  And I don’t think you 
can generalize too much because your genetics affect how you metabolize your 
food.  Eskimos can survive and thrive without fruit and veggies.  My wife is 
Swedish and wants nothing but meat.  I don’t ever want meat.  

 

I wish I could just cut back.  It doesn’t seem like I eat too much but the 
numbers say I do.  Most days I don’t have breakfast, I have a 300 cal microwave 
meal and then one smallish plate of home cooked in the evening.  Not lots of 
snacks.  Still the pounds are up, the triglycerides are up, the blood sugar is 
up. 

 

Perhaps meth is the answer.  Have been watching Breaking Bad straight through 
since the holidays.  Just started the final season yesterday.

 

From: Bill Prince 

Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 4:20 PM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [OT: Off the wall discussion]

 

You ought to read "The Big Fat Surprise" by Nina Teicholz 
(https://www.amazon.com/Big-Fat-Surprise-Butter-Healthy/dp/1451624425). 

Her contention is that a guy by the name of Ancel Keys started it all when he 
published a study in the 1950s called "The seven country study". In it he 
asserted that the so-called "Mediterranean diet" was the key to good health. 
Her research contends that the seven country study was cherry picked from a 
study of about 30 countries. Keys went on a multi-decade crusade to sell his 
theory, and a bunch of other questionable dietary studies. 

The American diet changed from a largely meat-centric (and higher in fat) diet 
to the allegedly healthy low-fat diet of today.

Part of her analysis looks at the remarkably successful Atkins diet that turns 
the Mediterranean diet on its head.

 

bp

 

On 1/22/2017 2:55 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:

The more medical research I do, the more history I read, the more I'm 
rapidly coming to the belief that the increase in processed sugar in the 1940s 
and beyond in American foods has had a hugely negative effect on our current 
social, mental health, medical, and political issues. Not that it's the root 
cause (way too many factors), but it's definitely a huge contributing factor. 

 

Has anybody else looked up any research on this lately?

 

 

Re: [AFMUG] Price per sub?

[Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T)]

I think to myself I spend $200 on a new install so If I sold it would need to 
be worth at least that.

 

I’m in Australia, I have 2300 sub’s and wouldn’t sell for less than 200 a sub

 

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 10:40 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Price per sub?

 

I always looked at these type of things as "How much could I spend in 
advertising and giving away free months of service in that area to pick up a 
majority of the customers anyway?" :)

If they are at $20/month, you could give customers 6 months free to switch to 
you, and you gain a customer for $120. People love to switch when they can get 
service for free.

Travis



On 1/11/2017 2:39 PM, Brett A Mansfield wrote:

There are only 190 subs. I'll have to get their financials to determine 
ebitda since they don't even know. But if it's what I think it is then they 
won't sell for what I'll offer. 4x ebitda isn't much for only 190 subs.

Thank you, 

Brett A Mansfield


On Jan 11, 2017, at 2:14 PM, Josh Reynolds  wrote:

How many subs?

 

On Jan 11, 2017 3:13 PM, "Brett A Mansfield" 
 wrote:

When looking at buying a competitor, I'm wondering what 
everyone's thought is on a price per sub? They don't do contracts and they use 
the litebeam hardware.

I'm not looking for legal advice, just wondering what all of 
you think is fair. This company has about a 90% take rate in the area they're 
in. Their plans are $20, $40, and $50/mo.

Thank you,
Brett A Mansfield

 

[AFMUG] Licence key on 450

[Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T)]

Hello

 

Is there a way to upgrade the Licence keys on the 450 remotely? (via mac
not IP)

I log into the SM via the AP

 

Thanks

 

Rhys

 

Re: [AFMUG] 450 AP intermittently nonresponsive, doesn't happen if no SM sessions

[Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T)]

I’d also make sure you have enough power getting up the cable to drive it.

 

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Thursday, July 7, 2016 9:34 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450 AP intermittently nonresponsive,doesn't happen if no 
SM sessions

 

OK, I just upgraded the AP to 14.1.2 and so far, so good.  SMs next.

 

 

From: Sean Heskett   

Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2016 5:08 PM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450 AP intermittently nonresponsive, doesn't happen if no 
SM sessions

 

i would upgrade the AP and all SMs to 14.1.2 (it's a very stable release) 

 

if it exhibits these issues once SMs start to register are you sure that you 
are not somehow creating a network loop through an SM, or some client is 
launching a DDoS and the subject of a DDoS attack?

 

On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 3:51 PM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:

Does this sound like any kind of a known issue?

I have a 450 AP that has been in service for about a year that has started 
intermittently becoming nonresponsive from the Ethernet side (can't access GUI, 
doesn't pass traffic).  I thought Ethernet problem, but neither the AP nor the 
switch shows any errors or events.  It is more like the CPU is going to sleep 
or something, but the Ethernet chip is still active.  I don't see anything in 
the Event Log though.

We missed applying the Lite to Full license key on this AP and I thought maybe 
that was the problem since it was at 10 SMs, but I applied the license key and 
still see the problem.

The weird thing is, if I set the Freq to None, or set the color code to 
something we don't use, the AP doesn't seem to exhibit the problem.  Only once 
SMs start registering.

I'm thinking it's maybe a power starvation issue, that the AP uses more power 
when actively talking to SMs, and maybe it's not getting enough voltage.

But I also see the firmware is still on 13.2.1.3, and I see Cambium finally 
released 14.1.2 official.  I am hesitant to upgrade the firmware though, unless 
there is some reason to believe what I am seeing is a firmware bug. Otherwise I 
am just adding to the confusion. 

 

Re: [AFMUG] First ePMP AP

[Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T)]

Thanks very much guys

 

To clarify, all unchecked will scan them all?

 

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 2:54 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] First ePMP AP

 

ePTP is for low latency. I typically see less than 3ms average. Does not 
support GPS sync.

TDD PTP mode does support GPS sync. You can chose either 2.5 or 5ms framing. 
Obviously the 2.5 framing will get you lower latency, about the same as Canopy 
(7-14ms).

The PTP modes buy you the higher EIRP if your region supports it.

TDD AP mode supports GPS sync. Like TDD PTP, 2.5 and 5ms framing. 2.5 framing 
will allow you to sync with PMP100/FSK if you have any nearby.

I just select the channel bandwidths I want scanned and leave all of the 
frequencies in each respective list unchecked. All unchecked means it will scan 
them all anyway. That's the default. I like defaults.

And as always, make sure your radios are on the latest firmware.

On 6/9/2016 11:24 PM, Colin Stanners wrote:

ePTP is only for PTP so set the mode to TDD.

On the SM, select the channel sizes to scan, then for each channel size 
the frequencies to scan. On 2.4 I usually select all frequencies for the 
channel sizes I'll use since it's just a few seconds to scan per channel size.

 

On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 11:19 PM, Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T) 
<r...@latrobeit.com.au> wrote:

Hi Guys

 

Setting up my first ePMP Ap

I have over 100 Ubnt AP’s but running out of capacity on them.

 

For PTMP do you guys normally use TDD or ePTP Master (whatever that is)

I notice on the sm you have to check specific frequencies, do you guys 
just tick every second one in case you need to change AP Freq?

 

Any other preferred parameters you go for?

 

Thanks for any help.

 

Rhys :-)

 

 

[AFMUG] First ePMP AP

[Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T)]

Hi Guys

 

Setting up my first ePMP Ap

I have over 100 Ubnt AP's but running out of capacity on them.

 

For PTMP do you guys normally use TDD or ePTP Master (whatever that is)

I notice on the sm you have to check specific frequencies, do you guys
just tick every second one in case you need to change AP Freq?

 

Any other preferred parameters you go for?

 

Thanks for any help.

 

Rhys :-)

Re: [AFMUG] Small site Gig POE

[Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T)]

Thanks

 

That's what I use for the bigger sites.

After something more all in one.

 

:-)

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 10:57 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small site Gig POE

 

PacketFlux GigE injector of some kind and a switch/router with gigabit ports.

On 5/17/2016 7:51 PM, Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T) wrote:

Hello

�

For very small sites I use a 750UP to power and route.

I�m after something with Gig ports that works similar.

What are you folk using?

�

Thanks

�

Rhys

 

[AFMUG] Small site Gig POE

[Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T)]

Hello

 

For very small sites I use a 750UP to power and route.

I'm after something with Gig ports that works similar.

What are you folk using?

 

Thanks

 

Rhys

Re: [AFMUG] mikrotik question

[Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T)]

" I can list quite a few things wrong with them if you'd really like to know"

I would :-)



-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
Sent: Tuesday, 26 April 2016 5:20 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mikrotik question

*grabs a bucket of popcorn*

I can list quite a few things wrong with them if you'd really like to know.

On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 1:22 PM, David  wrote:
> Get the tough switch 8 ports and POE out We like em for small loads
>
>
> On 04/25/2016 11:58 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:
>
>
> already have that, looking for more poe out.
> i could do a netronix switch, but i like the mikrotiks ;)
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Josh Luthman
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Monday, April 25, 2016 11:44 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mikrotik question
>
> Rb2011
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Apr 25, 2016 12:42 PM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" 
> wrote:
>>
>>
>> i need something similar to an rb750, but with more ports.  eight ports
>> would be good, 10 would be great.
>> whats out there?
>>
>
>

[AFMUG] Spacing 450 - 320 -320

[Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T)]

Hello

 

I need to stuff 2x 320AP's and 1x 450AP into 30mhz.

 

Is 1mhz going to be enough between the AP's?

Do they need any?

 

Thanks

 

Rhys

 

Re: [AFMUG] OT hey Ken...my lunch today

[Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T)]

Ha Ha  it’s funny when I read a post and look at the picture and I know who 
posted it without reading the name!

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Monday, February 8, 2016 11:41 AM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: [AFMUG] OT hey Ken...my lunch today

 

Yum yum yum... the toreado was super super hot 

Re: [AFMUG] I love DSL reports.

[Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T)]

Just say yes, you’ll be fine, should work no issue…

 

Ha Ha, I don’t really mean that, I’ve been on that side of the question 15 
years ago.

 

:-)

 

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Ray
Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2016 10:22 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] I love DSL reports.

 

 

Re: [AFMUG] I love DSL reports.

[Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T)]

On another note.

If he can find 5000 paying customer in 3km radius I’m moving country and 
retiring a year later :-)

 

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Ray
Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2016 10:22 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] I love DSL reports.

 

 

[AFMUG] Antenna I.D

[Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T)]

Hi Chaps

 

One of our competitors seems to always have better signals than us when
we scan and our base's are very close.

I am not sure what power levels he use's but he's a good operator so I
assume legal.

 

Can you please help me identify the sector in the picture, perhaps it's
better than the standard ubnt one.

 

Thanks

 

Rhys

 

 

 

Re: [AFMUG] Antenna I.D

[Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T)]

Wow, Thanks Mathew :-)

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 4:30 PM
To: af
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Antenna I.D

 

Arc wireless, I believe... I wasn't terrible impressed with them, F/B ratio 
seemed kind of poor to me.

 

http://www.antennas.com/pdfs/ARC-VS5821SD1_DS_061312.pdf

 

 

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 11:24 PM, Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T) 
<r...@latrobeit.com.au> wrote:

Hi Chaps

 

One of our competitors seems to always have better signals than us when we scan 
and our base’s are very close.

I am not sure what power levels he use’s but he’s a good operator so I assume 
legal.

 

Can you please help me identify the sector in the picture, perhaps it’s better 
than the standard ubnt one.

 

Thanks

 

Rhys

 

 

 

 

Re: [AFMUG] OT - email spam increase, or just me?

[Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T)]

Yep, tons of it, asking our server admin what's up.
Thought something was broken..





-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul Stewart
Sent: Friday, 11 December 2015 9:22 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - email spam increase, or just me?

We see about 5% higher than normal in volume

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2015 5:17 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] OT - email spam increase, or just me?

Has everyone seen a huge increase in spam volume over the past few days,
or has my spam filtering software lost its mojo?  Not just my account,
I've heard from customers too.

Lots of emails with no Subject line too.

[AFMUG] 320 sync

[Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T)]

Hello

 

I'm planning my 320 - 450 migration

I need to squash the old Wimax spectrum use a little

Does anyone know if a 10mhz 320 will sync with a 7mhz or 3mhz 320?

 

Thanks

 

Rhys

 

Re: [AFMUG] More private address space was created in 2012?

[Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T)]

Hmmm, I think you were second last :-S



-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Tuesday, 27 October 2015 1:19 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] More private address space was created in 2012?

> Am I the last one to notice?

Maybe.

-Original Message-
From: Adam Moffett
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 8:14 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] More private address space was created in 2012? 

https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6598
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrier-grade_NAT

Apparently 100.64.0.0/10 was set aside for ISP NAT so we can assign a WAN 
address that was guaranteed not to collide with anybody's LAN address.  Am I 
the last one to notice?

[AFMUG] First 450 Deploy Sync

[Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T)]

Hi Guys

 

About to swap out 4 wimax AP's and hang up some 450.

Will only be a single AP at each site.

 

What would you recommend for sync?

Any gotcha's from those who have already done change outs?

 

Thanks

 

Rhys

Re: [AFMUG] ospf issues with pbe-5ac-500 not passing

[Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T)]

I find you need WDS enabled


-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Tim Reichhart
Sent: Friday, 25 September 2015 12:32 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] ospf issues with pbe-5ac-500 not passing

I am having an weird issues with my PowerBeam 5AC 500 with ospf traffic not 
passing through and I am using these PowerBeam 5AC 500 as backhauls and they 
are connected to mikrotik. I am running firmware 7.1.4xc and not doing nbma 
setup.

Tim

Re: [AFMUG] For sale Friday: 2.4 ePMP connectorized + IT Elite panels

[Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T)]

We need a bigger higher resolution picture :-P

 

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Friday, 28 August 2015 2:52 PM
To: af@afmug.com; memb...@wispa.org; Principal WISPA Member List
Subject: [AFMUG] For sale Friday: 2.4 ePMP connectorized + IT Elite panels

 

New in box!

I have 15x sra24016dual panels/enclosures as well as jumpers and 15x ePMP 
radios to go with them.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

Re: [AFMUG] Competitor parts quality.

[Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T)]

You have a great name, they do not.

I would buy off you because it is you and I’m sure most people would also.

 

Do what you have to do to eat and not worry about competition.

Price it what it needs to be.

 

:-)

 

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Forrest Christian (List 
Account)
Sent: Tuesday, 4 August 2015 9:37 AM
To: af
Subject: [AFMUG] Competitor parts quality.

 

This is somewhat of a vent/rant, but also I will also take suggestions on how 
to handle this issue.

 

Since I've been shipping gigabit injector products, I've struggled with the 
pricing of the magnetics which are used to inject the power on the cat5 cable.  
 After a lot of time searching, I ended up using a Pulse branded HX6096NL.   
This is a extended temperature range part (-40C to +85C), and is rated for 
720mA@57V per pair, continuous.   This is the least expensive part I've found 
so far which meets decent current rating and temperature rating standards. 
If you're interested, the datasheet is at: 

 

http://productfinder.pulseeng.com/products/datasheets/HX6096FNL.pdf

 

Unfortunately, cheap is not cheap.   These parts cost me around $4.25 in 
quantity, EACH. (See http://www.findchips.com/search/hx6096fnl ).  I could buy 
non-temperature rated parts for a bit less, but I don't want to not ship an 
extended temperature-rated product. This means on a 4 port injector, the parts 
costs alone to add gigabit are $21.00.  For a 12 port injector, this ends up 
being $61.00.

 

As a general rule of thumb, you need to multiply production costs by about 2 or 
2.5 to get the final sale price (and even at that I'm not getting rich)  (see 
http://www.eevblog.com/2014/05/28/the-economics-of-selling-your-hardware-project/
 to understand why) - so using these parts effectively adds $42 to the price of 
a 4 port injector, and $122 to a 12 port injector, when compared to a 
non-injected version.

 

The frustrating part of all of this is that I see competitors which are selling 
products which are amazingly inexpensive.   For instance, I recently bought a 6 
port gigabit injector for $37.95, hoping that once I tore it apart, I'd find a 
source for an expensive magnetics.  I should note that just the magnetic costs 
for 6 of the magnetics that I use are $25.50, leaving only $12.95 for 
everything else and profit.   

 

So, what did I find inside?  They're using a cheap cheap questionable-quality 
knockoff of a set of magnetics which (even if they were genuine) are not only 
not industrial temperature range (in fairness they didn't claim this) but 
worse, they're not rated for PoE at all - signal only, no DC.  I would never in 
a million years consider shipping a product with this set of magnetics in it, 
and I sure wouldn't use this in my network.  Yet somehow I have to compete with 
this.

 

I guess where I'm going with this is:  I am starting to get pushback about my 
pricing when compared to these low-cost options, and I'm sure that they're 
making an impact into my bottom line - it's definitely difficult to sell 
against a product which is so much less expensive, as long as the perception is 
that the cheaper product isn't in any material way less functional or 
meaningfully lower quality.  Unfortunately, the other option seems to be to 
start badmouthing the competition, which isn't something I would ever stoop to. 
  

 

I'm not quite sure how to address this.   Any suggestions?

 

-- 

Forrest Christian CEO, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.

Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602

forre...@imach.com mailto:forre...@imach.com  | http://www.packetflux.com 
http://www.packetflux.com/ 

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Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik PoE - ePMP or PMP100?

[Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T)]

I’ve found best to use the 24v psu not 12 (solar sites)less amperage the 
better on the 750’s

 

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Gray
Sent: Thursday, 18 June 2015 10:13 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Mikrotik PoE - ePMP or PMP100?

 

Are there any known problems using a Mikrotik PoE output (i.e., RB750UP) to 
power ePMP radios or PMP100 radios? 

I've been experimenting with the Mikrotik RB750UP, Tycon POE-XOVER-S (to 
reverse polarity), and some Cambium radios. So far, the only issue I've found 
is having to force on the PoE ports. 

Any other issues or problems? I hope to turn on some APs this way soon if 
reasonable.

Thanks - Chris


 






 

Re: [AFMUG] What is a 900Mhz P5 AP unit worth?

[Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T)]

What makes the tower owner think it's his?

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of David Milholen
Sent: Monday, 4 May 2015 1:15 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What is a 900Mhz P5 AP unit worth?

 

Ask him what its worth to him and your time to take it down to clean the tower 
up.



On 5/3/2015 7:57 PM, Rory Conaway wrote:

I took one off a tower and threw it away along with the very large 
900MHz sector antenna.� It was disconnected and the company that put it up 
there is out of business.� However, the tower manager thinks I should 
reimburse him for it.� ��

�

Rory Conaway � Triad Wireless � CEO

4226 S. 37th Street � Phoenix � AZ 85040

602-426-0542

r...@triadwireless.net

www.triadwireless.net http://www.triadwireless.net/ 

�

�There is only one way in this world to avoid criticism: do nothing, 
say nothing, and be nothing.� - Aristotle

�

 

-- 
 

Re: [AFMUG] Rocket to ePMP migration

[Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T)]

Hi Peter

 

That’s the opposite to what I see.

The old Rocket’s for me were better with interference.

That being said, I’ve only tried P2P with AC kit

 

Thanks

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Peter Kranz
Sent: Thursday, 30 April 2015 3:34 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rocket to ePMP migration

 

I’m seeing good results with RM5AC in regards to interference and weak 
signals.. Probably 4x better than RM5 radios.

 

-Peter

 

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T)
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2015 8:37 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rocket to ePMP migration

 

Depending on what vendor is doing the testing the results are different.

Really hard to decide if I’m upgrading or side grading.

 

Not so keen on the AC stuff, seems not to like interference and need super 
strong signal.

 

Thanks

 

Rhys

 

 

 

 

From: Josh Reynolds [mailto:j...@spitwspots.com] 
Sent: Thursday, 30 April 2015 1:34 PM
To: af@afmug.com; Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T)
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rocket to ePMP migration

 

Its the same chip :P

That aside, have not, so I'll back out of this now.

On April 29, 2015 7:31:54 PM AKDT, Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T) 
r...@latrobeit.com.au wrote:

Hello

 

Have many of you Migrated from an Airmax network to ePMP?

I can’t decide if I should take the plunge.

 

I have about 2000 customers,  any Rocket with about 50+ customers is staring to 
bend.

 

Any thought please?

 

Thanks

 

:-)

 

 


-- 
Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

Re: [AFMUG] Rocket to ePMP migration

[Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T)]

Hi Jon

 

All very confusing,  depending on who is testing it to what results you see and 
who is better.

Some say Ubnt is better than Cambium, some say the opposite.

 

Thanks

 

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jon Langeler
Sent: Thursday, 30 April 2015 5:49 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rocket to ePMP migration

 

I would look at the upcoming platforms and add another one to your busiest 
towers. Maybe wait for Mimosa.

Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 29, 2015, at 11:31 PM, Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T) r...@latrobeit.com.au 
wrote:

Hello

 

Have many of you Migrated from an Airmax network to ePMP?

I can’t decide if I should take the plunge.

 

I have about 2000 customers,  any Rocket with about 50+ customers is 
staring to bend.

 

Any thought please?

 

Thanks

 

:-)

 

 

Re: [AFMUG] Rocket to ePMP migration

[Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T)]

I’ve also looked into Bitlomat and waiting for more info.

I like the ability to keep older CPE and still have GPS sync

 

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Friday, 1 May 2015 12:46 AM
To: af
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rocket to ePMP migration

 

It depends what you hope to gain. The biggest benefit you're going to get from 
going to ePMP is sync.

The other thing that you may want to keep an eye on is Bitlomat, they are 
supposed to be coming out with an AP that has sync and can work with UBNT 
clients (with their firmware flashed)... if it actually works, that could be a 
much more practical way to get similar results.



We have a similar sized 2.4ghz airmax network, which I'm quite certain would 
work far better with sync, but I really don't want to go replace 2000+ 
radios... We have already gone to ePMP for all our new 5ghz APs and have 
started migrating what we had from UBNT to ePMP, but in our case that's much 
less than what we have on 2.4ghz. 

 

 

 

On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 10:31 PM, Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T) 
r...@latrobeit.com.au wrote:

Hello

 

Have many of you Migrated from an Airmax network to ePMP?

I can’t decide if I should take the plunge.

 

I have about 2000 customers,  any Rocket with about 50+ customers is staring to 
bend.

 

Any thought please?

 

Thanks

 

:-)

 

 

 

Re: [AFMUG] Rocket to ePMP migration

[Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T)]

“Our client deployed Ubiquiti Rockets in 1 city but is deploying Cambium ePMP 
in the next city”

 

Hi Rory, did they have feedback as to the one the preferred?

 

Thanks

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Rory Conaway
Sent: Thursday, 30 April 2015 3:28 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rocket to ePMP migration

 

This is a conundrum I’ve been battling with a client of ours.  The newer 
Rockets with XW firmware can handle more clients but run into random lockups.  
The only difference between them and the Titanium’s is the port.  The ePMP 
isn’t sexy but it does work and can handle more than 50 clients at the AP plus 
comes with GPS.  Rocket AC’s may not need GPS as badly but their firmware is 
still beta and I haven’t seen any data from anyone with 4 on a tower.  We won’t 
deploy them until they are backward compatible with 802.11n and there is a 
smaller CPE than the PowerBeam-AC.Mimosa isn’t out yet with PTMP so that 
option is out.  

 

Our client deployed Ubiquiti Rockets in 1 city but is deploying Cambium ePMP in 
the next city.  We just deployed a tower over the weekend and used Rocket 5Ms 
with RF Armor shields but we won’t have density issues for a few months.  We 
may replace it with Mimosa or Rocket AC’s if the compatibility issue gets 
resolved.  Forklifting the entire area isn’t financially feasible for the 
revenue.  But I do expect multiple options to be compatible with 802.11n at the 
AP level in a few months and that’s what we are planning for.

 

Rory

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T)
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2015 8:37 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rocket to ePMP migration

 

Depending on what vendor is doing the testing the results are different.

Really hard to decide if I’m upgrading or side grading.

 

Not so keen on the AC stuff, seems not to like interference and need super 
strong signal.

 

Thanks

 

Rhys

 

 

 

 

From: Josh Reynolds [mailto:j...@spitwspots.com] 
Sent: Thursday, 30 April 2015 1:34 PM
To: af@afmug.com; Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T)
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rocket to ePMP migration

 

Its the same chip :P

That aside, have not, so I'll back out of this now.

On April 29, 2015 7:31:54 PM AKDT, Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T) 
r...@latrobeit.com.au wrote:

Hello

 

Have many of you Migrated from an Airmax network to ePMP?

I can’t decide if I should take the plunge.

 

I have about 2000 customers,  any Rocket with about 50+ customers is staring to 
bend.

 

Any thought please?

 

Thanks

 

:-)

 

 


-- 
Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

Re: [AFMUG] Rocket to ePMP migration

[Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T)]

Hi Lewis,

 

That’s the thing, I also thought this.

Cambium have some whitepapers that say the opposite tho.

 

Think I may just do a tower or two and see what happens.

 

Thanks

 

 

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Lewis Bergman
Sent: Thursday, 30 April 2015 6:16 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rocket to ePMP migration

 

Both being 802.11 you are not going to be likely to get any more throughput out 
of a single, AP, maybe less due to the frame changes. With sync you can add 
more AP's to a site and if you are willing and able to do that you can scale up 
much better.

On Apr 29, 2015 10:32 PM, Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T) r...@latrobeit.com.au 
wrote:

Hello

 

Have many of you Migrated from an Airmax network to ePMP?

I can’t decide if I should take the plunge.

 

I have about 2000 customers,  any Rocket with about 50+ customers is staring to 
bend.

 

Any thought please?

 

Thanks

 

:-)

 

 

Re: [AFMUG] Rocket to ePMP migration

[Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T)]

Depending on what vendor is doing the testing the results are different.

Really hard to decide if I’m upgrading or side grading.

 

Not so keen on the AC stuff, seems not to like interference and need super 
strong signal.

 

Thanks

 

Rhys

 

 

 

 

From: Josh Reynolds [mailto:j...@spitwspots.com] 
Sent: Thursday, 30 April 2015 1:34 PM
To: af@afmug.com; Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T)
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rocket to ePMP migration

 

Its the same chip :P

That aside, have not, so I'll back out of this now.

On April 29, 2015 7:31:54 PM AKDT, Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T) 
r...@latrobeit.com.au wrote:

Hello

 

Have many of you Migrated from an Airmax network to ePMP?

I can’t decide if I should take the plunge.

 

I have about 2000 customers,  any Rocket with about 50+ customers is staring to 
bend.

 

Any thought please?

 

Thanks

 

:-)

 

 


-- 
Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

[AFMUG] Rocket to ePMP migration

[Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T)]

Hello

 

Have many of you Migrated from an Airmax network to ePMP?

I can't decide if I should take the plunge.

 

I have about 2000 customers,  any Rocket with about 50+ customers is
staring to bend.

 

Any thought please?

 

Thanks

 

:-)

 

 

Re: [AFMUG] Providing public routed IPs to customers

[Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T)]

I do PPPoE  you don’t need /30’s

Just the single IP via the tunnel, local IP can be anything

 

 

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
Sent: Wednesday, 15 April 2015 10:33 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Providing public routed IPs to customers

 

Trying to avoid PPPoE, for one. Also want to not do a bunch of /30's everywhere 
like we are now.




Josh Reynolds
CIO, SPITwSPOTS
www.spitwspots.com

On 04/14/2015 04:30 PM, Jason McKemie wrote:

I use DHCP on my fiber network and PPPoE on wireless.

On Tuesday, April 14, 2015, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote:

For those of you currently providing public/routed ips to customers? 
What is your topology like and delivery method?

Looking at doing a few things, have considered a few options, and 
wanted to look out there and see what other people are doing.

Thanks

-- 
Josh Reynolds
CIO, SPITwSPOTS
www.spitwspots.com

 

[AFMUG] ePMP help

[Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T)]

Hello

 

Testing the ePMP system.

I've managed to get the sm to connect but when setting up PPPOE is does
not seem to even try to Authenticate

Is there any Gotcha's with this?

 

Also,  doing a wireless link test, I can select the SM but Start Test
remains unelectable.

 

Thanks

 

Rhys

 

 

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP help

[Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T)]

Thanks

 

I seem to be able to do it from the sm ok

 

I still can’t get PPPOE to even try to Authenticate, does anyone here use PPPOE?

 

Thanks

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Thursday, 26 March 2015 12:24 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP help

 

Sometimes that happens on the page.  Just select the SM and speed again.  If 
not try a different page and go back to it.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mar 25, 2015 9:10 PM, Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T) r...@latrobeit.com.au 
wrote:

Hello

 

Testing the ePMP system.

I’ve managed to get the sm to connect but when setting up PPPOE is does not 
seem to even try to Authenticate

Is there any Gotcha’s with this?

 

Also,  doing a wireless link test, I can select the SM but “Start Test” remains 
unelectable.

 

Thanks

 

Rhys

 

 

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP help

[Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T)]

Figured it out, needs the service name to match :-)

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T)
Sent: Thursday, 26 March 2015 1:00 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP help

 

Thanks

 

I seem to be able to do it from the sm ok

 

I still can’t get PPPOE to even try to Authenticate, does anyone here use PPPOE?

 

Thanks

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Thursday, 26 March 2015 12:24 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP help

 

Sometimes that happens on the page.  Just select the SM and speed again.  If 
not try a different page and go back to it.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mar 25, 2015 9:10 PM, Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T) r...@latrobeit.com.au 
wrote:

Hello

 

Testing the ePMP system.

I’ve managed to get the sm to connect but when setting up PPPOE is does not 
seem to even try to Authenticate

Is there any Gotcha’s with this?

 

Also,  doing a wireless link test, I can select the SM but “Start Test” remains 
unelectable.

 

Thanks

 

Rhys

 

 

[AFMUG] Netflix Traffic

[Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T)]

Hi Guys

 

Netflix is now available in Australia.

I'm wondering about the bandwidth jump that is to be expected.

 

Does anyone have rough information as to what percentage of peak hour
traffic is Netflix?

Its seems to work fine with only 2mbps, Is this what you have seen also?

 

Thanks

 

Rhys

 

 

 

Re: [AFMUG] Netflix Traffic

[Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T)]

After a quick Google, I still need to ask, what is UBB please?

 

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, 24 March 2015 1:59 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Netflix Traffic

 

It'll jump I expect but keep in mind many connections are UBB.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mar 23, 2015 10:54 PM, Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T) r...@latrobeit.com.au 
wrote:

Hi Guys

 

Netflix is now available in Australia.

I’m wondering about the bandwidth jump that is to be expected.

 

Does anyone have rough information as to what percentage of peak hour traffic 
is Netflix?

Its seems to work fine with only 2mbps, Is this what you have seen also?

 

Thanks

 

Rhys

 

 

 

Re: [AFMUG] airmax AC

[Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T)]

I use 20mhz and top out at 97mbps (router limit)

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Thursday, 5 February 2015 2:26 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] airmax AC

 

There are multiple platforms being discussed here. Make sure what you're 
thinking about is what they're talking about.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

 



From: Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 4, 2015 9:21:54 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] airmax AC

Well, if you believe the 10 bits/Hz story, then it should be able to do 100 
Mbps in 10 MHz.  Right?

bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
 

On 2/4/2015 7:11 PM, Brett A Mansfield wrote:

Do they actually get 100Mb+ real world? Anyone confirmed this? How do 
they accomplish it? 80MHz with only a few subscribers per AP and 1024QAM?

Thank you, 

Brett A Mansfield


On Feb 4, 2015, at 5:13 PM, Peter Kranz pkr...@unwiredltd.com wrote:

I’ve got about 20 of them..

 

-Peter

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of CBB - Jay 
Fuller
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 3:46 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Cc: Ubiquiti Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] airmax AC

 

 

anyone have any nanobeam acs?  just submitted a request to the 
stock locater but wondered if anyone actually has them

- Original Message - 

From: Josh Reynolds mailto:j...@spitwspots.com  

To: af@afmug.com 

Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 5:38 PM

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] airmax AC

 

AC overhead is much less than 8002.11n

:: pardon any brevity, this message was sent via mobile

 

On Wed, Feb 04, 2015 at 2:30 PM, Jason McKemie 
j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com wrote:

 

100mbps to individual customers or net? There 
isn't 75% overhead is there?!

On Wednesday, February 4, 2015, Chuck McCown 
ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

TDMA

PMP

AC RocketDish

Airprism active RF front end filter

450 Mbps

Real world capacity 100 Mbps to PMP 
customers.

 

 

Re: [AFMUG] MT reboot

[Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T) via Af]

I've seen this, with a Cisco switch.
Something to do with the size of the packet.

I changed to an RB800 and the problem went away.




-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of David via Af
Sent: Friday, 19 December 2014 9:26 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] MT reboot

Yep,
  When you get time review the bugs in 5.26.. I remember an issue with a
Rb433 do the very similar with a DVR system and If I remember it had something 
to do with the amount UDP connections or traffic over a single port.
  remove the DVR and check it after 4 or 5 hours to see if it reboots.
If it does not, I would upgrade to 6.23 if possible.


On 12/18/2014 04:11 PM, Travis Johnson via Af wrote:
 Hi,

 We are having a strange issue with a Mikrotik x86 based router (v5.26 
 OS). We have already replaced the entire hardware with brand new 
 (including power supply).

 The issue is the MT box will just randomly reboot with no error 
 messages or warning, with uptimes ranging from 30 minutes to 2 hours.
 The entire problem started when we purchased a Zmodo NVR (it's a 
 security camera DVR system that uses PoE cameras, running Linux) and 
 plugged it into the Cisco switch that then connects to the MT. This is 
 a very basic setup. Internet connection on ether1, inside NAT'd 
 connections on ether2.

 Anyone ever seen anything like this? Any ideas? Torch doesn't show 
 anything strange.

 Travis

Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti AC

[Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T) via Af]

Speaking of AC

 

Are the AC Nanobeams ready to be put 80 foot up a tower?

Are they reliable now?

Need to do a rebuild but don’t want to have to hire a cherry picker more often 
than needed.

 

Thanks

 

 

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jason McKemie via Af
Sent: Wednesday, 5 November 2014 2:51 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti AC

 

I'd like to see the non-lite Rocket as well...

 

On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 2:31 PM, Peter Kranz via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

Hardware already available..

Software.. soon!

 

Peter Kranz
Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd
www.UnwiredLtd.com http://www.unwiredltd.com/ 
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 tel:510-868-1614%20x100 
Mobile: 510-207-
pkr...@unwiredltd.com

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jason McKemie via Af
Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2014 10:45 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti AC

 

Has anyone heard of a timeline on the availability of ptmp AC in Ubiquiti's 
lineup?

 

-Jason

 

[AFMUG] Network Troubeshoot Story

[Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T) via Af]

Hi Fellows,

 

I had a storm come through, power flicked at one of our bases.

One of the power bridges would not link, another 5 would only have 10%
loss and only push 16mbps over the Lan, WLan was 70+

UDP would test perfect.

Power cycled Power bridges, no luck.

Changed ports on the router and  could get 70+ again, OK, Faulty router
I thought.

Changed router still no luck, still packet loss on the same ports but
not on others.

Super scratching my head, I power cycled the PSU.

Fixed!

Who would have thought that a lowly power supply could do this?

 

Thought I'd post in case someone else ever see's this.

 

:-)

 

 

 

 

Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Product Ideas

[Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T) via Af]

A 12 - 24 port switch that you can sync whatever or POE whatever, software 
configurable.

I would expect it to be expensive…

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall via Af
Sent: Tuesday, 7 October 2014 1:09 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Product Ideas

 

Even a 12+4 would be great

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of timothy steele via Af
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2014 9:36 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Cc: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Product Ideas

 

A sync injecter with 28 ports 24 sync injected ports + 4 POE ports for BH's 
that would keep things much cleaner at tower sites


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On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 9:23 PM, Mathew Howard via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

+1 to that. 





From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Josh Reynolds via Af 
[af@afmug.com]
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2014 7:59 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Product Ideas

You know what I really need more than anything else?

I need a DC-terminal POE pass-through for 8-16 devices, where I can 
toggle between UBNT 24v passive poe, 48-56v, and maybe 56V 1A per-port. Maybe 
two models, an 8 device and a 16 device model (16/32 ports).

Also will want a rack-mount version with 24 devices (48 ports), so make 
that maybe 3 models.

This way I can use whatever switch I want, yet still have full control 
over each device. It should be able to send syslog messages/traps, and that's 
pretty much it.

Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com

On 10/05/2014 12:19 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) via Af wrote:

It's been (quite) a while since I sent one of these messages 
out to the list. 

 

With the release of all of our new gigabit injectors, it is 
time for me to decide which products will be next out the door at PacketFlux.

 

We've got several products at various stages of completion, but 
almost all of them I expect to be very low volume projects - the type of 
products we complete just because they help fill out our product offering 
instead of expecting a lot of revenue from them.   A couple of these have 
appeared on the website recently - I.E. a 2 Relay, 3 Switch module, and the 
voltmeter/shunt input modules.

 

So, what I'd love to hear is some suggestions for products 
PacketFlux could build which would help you in your WISP.   I'm particularly 
looking for products which if they existed would go at every one of your tower 
sites, or even better at every customer location.  I know these product ideas 
exist out there, and I'd love to hear them.   Feel free to throw ideas out 
which are outside of the narrow niche that you think of PacketFlux fitting into.

 

One final note  - there is always a query for an all-in-one 
tower device which includes some mixture of ac power supply, dc-dc conversion, 
battery charging/management, Ethernet switch, router, power injection, fiber 
conversion, etc..   I've heard those loud and clear and am aware of that 
desire.   There's work being done in-house toward something like that, but 
there are many hurdles left to make it a reality.  If there's a simplified 
version of this which would fit a specific, widespread, need I'd love to hear 
about it, but the idea of a device you put into your rack and it handles 
everything needed at a tower site is still quite a ways off for us.

 

So, throw your best ideas out there... I'd love to take a 
couple and run with them.

 

-forrest