Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?

2015-06-12 Thread Josh Luthman
Ya good point.  The article is boasting distance.  Not speed/distance.

Why don't you guys simply ship some AF5x radios to the guys with the XR5
routerboards???


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 3:13 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote:

 Still didn't beat your own distance record.  :-p



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

 --
 *From: *Matt Hardy m...@ubnt.com
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Friday, June 12, 2015 2:12:31 PM
 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?

 I remember that, but... 155Mbps vs 5Mbps? ;)

 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 2:41 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com
 wrote:

   August 27, 2007 A new world record distance for a 5 GHz Wi-Fi link
 has been achieved by the Italian Center for Radio Activities (C.I.S.A.R),
 and Ubiquiti Networks, a leading innovator in outdoor wireless broadband
 solutions. The distance of 304km (188.89 miles) was established from
 Sardinia Island to Central Italy achieving data-rates of about 5Mbps, using
 Ubiquiti’s XtremeRange5 (XR5) High-Power Carrier Class mini-PCI radio
 module and 35dBi 5 GHz parabolic dish antennas.

 from: http://www.gizmag.com/go/7878/

 Josh Reynolds
 CIO, SPITwSPOTSwww.spitwspots.com

 On 06/12/2015 10:36 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:

 So back to the original post...  didn't Travis have a link in that area
 with a pair of Trango radios? I think MT\UBNT AirMax have something that
 long in one of those other areas I mentioned.



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

 --
 *From: *Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net af...@ics-il.net
 *To: *Animal Farm af@afmug.com af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Friday, June 12, 2015 9:27:08 AM
 *Subject: *[AFMUG] AF5x Record?

 I'm not sure that this is a record, but no doubt close. Travis Johnson
 had something close in Idaho. I thought someone in South America and Italy
 had links in that area.



 http://www.marketwatch.com/story/ubiquitir-airfiberr-5x-sets-a-new-world-distance-record-for-wireless-broadband-2015-06-10



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Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?

2015-06-12 Thread Josh Luthman
Right but there's only one side of the link...so there's the distance issue.

Also why would they need that many blocks?  Isn't the moon's gravity 1/6?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 3:38 PM, Matt Hardy m...@ubnt.com wrote:

 Eh?

 https://www.facebook.com/ubiquiti/photos/pb.140563119297621.-220752.1434137835./481983171822279

 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 3:36 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
  wrote:

 First unlicensed link in space???  First unlicensed link on the moon!!!
 Please Ubnt.


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 3:33 PM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 Hey put one on an air balloon like Alvarion did.or ISS

 Jaime Solorza
 On Jun 12, 2015 1:21 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 wrote:

 Ya good point.  The article is boasting distance.  Not speed/distance.

 Why don't you guys simply ship some AF5x radios to the guys with the
 XR5 routerboards???


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 3:13 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote:

 Still didn't beat your own distance record.  :-p



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

 --
 *From: *Matt Hardy m...@ubnt.com
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Friday, June 12, 2015 2:12:31 PM
 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?

 I remember that, but... 155Mbps vs 5Mbps? ;)

 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 2:41 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com
 wrote:

   August 27, 2007 A new world record distance for a 5 GHz Wi-Fi
 link has been achieved by the Italian Center for Radio Activities
 (C.I.S.A.R), and Ubiquiti Networks, a leading innovator in outdoor 
 wireless
 broadband solutions. The distance of 304km (188.89 miles) was established
 from Sardinia Island to Central Italy achieving data-rates of about 
 5Mbps,
 using Ubiquiti’s XtremeRange5 (XR5) High-Power Carrier Class mini-PCI 
 radio
 module and 35dBi 5 GHz parabolic dish antennas.

 from: http://www.gizmag.com/go/7878/

 Josh Reynolds
 CIO, SPITwSPOTSwww.spitwspots.com

 On 06/12/2015 10:36 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:

 So back to the original post...  didn't Travis have a link in that
 area with a pair of Trango radios? I think MT\UBNT AirMax have something
 that long in one of those other areas I mentioned.



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

 --
 *From: *Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net af...@ics-il.net
 *To: *Animal Farm af@afmug.com af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Friday, June 12, 2015 9:27:08 AM
 *Subject: *[AFMUG] AF5x Record?

 I'm not sure that this is a record, but no doubt close. Travis
 Johnson had something close in Idaho. I thought someone in South America
 and Italy had links in that area.



 http://www.marketwatch.com/story/ubiquitir-airfiberr-5x-sets-a-new-world-distance-record-for-wireless-broadband-2015-06-10



 -
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 http://www.ics-il.com



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Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?

2015-06-12 Thread Mike Hammett
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth%E2%80%93Moon%E2%80%93Earth_communication 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

- Original Message -

From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 3:22:54 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record? 


They do that with lasers off the mirrors up there, but I've never heard of the 
Ham stuff...is that true? 






Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 

On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 4:16 PM, Paul McCall  pa...@pdmnet.net  wrote: 





Bounce it off the moon and back like the Ham radio guys do 



From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds 
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 3:52 PM 
To: af@afmug.com 


Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record? 




Yeah, I was thinking the same thing! 

Josh Reynolds CIO, SPITwSPOTS www.spitwspots.com 

On 06/12/2015 11:12 AM, Matt Hardy wrote: 
blockquote


I remember that, but... 155Mbps vs 5Mbps? ;) 



On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 2:41 PM, Josh Reynolds  j...@spitwspots.com  wrote: 

 August 27, 2007 A new world record distance for a 5 GHz Wi-Fi link has been 
achieved by the Italian Center for Radio Activities (C.I.S.A.R), and Ubiquiti 
Networks, a leading innovator in outdoor wireless broadband solutions. The 
distance of 304km (188.89 miles) was established from Sardinia Island to 
Central Italy achieving data-rates of about 5Mbps, using Ubiquiti’s 
XtremeRange5 (XR5) High-Power Carrier Class mini-PCI radio module and 35dBi 5 
GHz parabolic dish antennas. 

from: http://www.gizmag.com/go/7878/ 

Josh Reynolds CIO, SPITwSPOTS www.spitwspots.com 



On 06/12/2015 10:36 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: 
blockquote


So back to the original post... didn't Travis have a link in that area with a 
pair of Trango radios? I think MT\UBNT AirMax have something that long in one 
of those other areas I mentioned. 



- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 




From: Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net 
To: Animal Farm af@afmug.com 
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 9:27:08 AM 
Subject: [AFMUG] AF5x Record? 

I'm not sure that this is a record, but no doubt close. Travis Johnson had 
something close in Idaho. I thought someone in South America and Italy had 
links in that area. 


http://www.marketwatch.com/story/ubiquitir-airfiberr-5x-sets-a-new-world-distance-record-for-wireless-broadband-2015-06-10
 



- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 



Midwest Internet Exchange 
http://www.midwest-ix.com 





/blockquote


/blockquote




Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?

2015-06-12 Thread Jaime Solorza
Look up OTH microwave and Troposcatter to get basics ..there will be a test

Jaime Solorza
On Jun 12, 2015 2:46 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote:

 It's not rare at all and done on several bands.



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

 --
 *From: *Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Friday, June 12, 2015 3:45:06 PM
 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?

 How is that possible?!  What wavelength is it?  What use does it get?


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 4:28 PM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yes. A guy I used to work for takes his vacations with a small group.
 They rent a sail boat and set up on a remote island somewhere with solar
 panels and HAM equipment to do moon bounces. They get extra points because
 they're solar powered (and presumably also because they're bouncing off the
 moon). Simplex transmission distance is ~~ 500,000 miles.

 bp
 part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com


 On 6/12/2015 1:22 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

 They do that with lasers off the mirrors up there, but I've never heard
 of the Ham stuff...is that true?







Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?

2015-06-12 Thread Mike Hammett
Still didn't beat your own distance record. :-p 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

- Original Message -

From: Matt Hardy m...@ubnt.com 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 2:12:31 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record? 


I remember that, but... 155Mbps vs 5Mbps? ;) 


On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 2:41 PM, Josh Reynolds  j...@spitwspots.com  wrote: 



 August 27, 2007 A new world record distance for a 5 GHz Wi-Fi link has been 
achieved by the Italian Center for Radio Activities (C.I.S.A.R), and Ubiquiti 
Networks, a leading innovator in outdoor wireless broadband solutions. The 
distance of 304km (188.89 miles) was established from Sardinia Island to 
Central Italy achieving data-rates of about 5Mbps, using Ubiquiti’s 
XtremeRange5 (XR5) High-Power Carrier Class mini-PCI radio module and 35dBi 5 
GHz parabolic dish antennas. 

from: http://www.gizmag.com/go/7878/ 
Josh Reynolds
CIO, SPITwSPOTS www.spitwspots.com 


On 06/12/2015 10:36 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: 

blockquote

So back to the original post... didn't Travis have a link in that area with a 
pair of Trango radios? I think MT\UBNT AirMax have something that long in one 
of those other areas I mentioned. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 



From: Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net 
To: Animal Farm af@afmug.com 
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 9:27:08 AM 
Subject: [AFMUG] AF5x Record? 

I'm not sure that this is a record, but no doubt close. Travis Johnson had 
something close in Idaho. I thought someone in South America and Italy had 
links in that area. 


http://www.marketwatch.com/story/ubiquitir-airfiberr-5x-sets-a-new-world-distance-record-for-wireless-broadband-2015-06-10
 



- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 



Midwest Internet Exchange 
http://www.midwest-ix.com 






/blockquote




Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?

2015-06-12 Thread Bill Prince
Yes. A guy I used to work for takes his vacations with a small group. 
They rent a sail boat and set up on a remote island somewhere with solar 
panels and HAM equipment to do moon bounces. They get extra points 
because they're solar powered (and presumably also because they're 
bouncing off the moon). Simplex transmission distance is ~~ 500,000 miles.


bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com

On 6/12/2015 1:22 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
They do that with lasers off the mirrors up there, but I've never 
heard of the Ham stuff...is that true?




Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?

2015-06-12 Thread Chuck McCown
I think a ham could  legally do moon bounce with this stuff.  That would set 
some records.   

From: Josh Luthman 
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 1:42 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?

Right but there's only one side of the link...so there's the distance issue. 

Also why would they need that many blocks?  Isn't the moon's gravity 1/6?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 3:38 PM, Matt Hardy m...@ubnt.com wrote:

  Eh? 
  
https://www.facebook.com/ubiquiti/photos/pb.140563119297621.-220752.1434137835./481983171822279


  On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 3:36 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com 
wrote:

First unlicensed link in space???  First unlicensed link on the moon!!! 
Please Ubnt.



Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 3:33 PM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com 
wrote:

  Hey put one on an air balloon like Alvarion did.or ISS

  Jaime Solorza

  On Jun 12, 2015 1:21 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com 
wrote:

Ya good point.  The article is boasting distance.  Not speed/distance. 

Why don't you guys simply ship some AF5x radios to the guys with the 
XR5 routerboards???



Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 3:13 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote:

  Still didn't beat your own distance record.  :-p




  -
  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions
  http://www.ics-il.com



--

  From: Matt Hardy m...@ubnt.com
  To: af@afmug.com
  Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 2:12:31 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?


  I remember that, but... 155Mbps vs 5Mbps? ;) 

  On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 2:41 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com 
wrote:

 August 27, 2007 A new world record distance for a 5 GHz Wi-Fi 
link has been achieved by the Italian Center for Radio Activities (C.I.S.A.R), 
and Ubiquiti Networks, a leading innovator in outdoor wireless broadband 
solutions. The distance of 304km (188.89 miles) was established from Sardinia 
Island to Central Italy achieving data-rates of about 5Mbps, using Ubiquiti’s 
XtremeRange5 (XR5) High-Power Carrier Class mini-PCI radio module and 35dBi 5 
GHz parabolic dish antennas.

from: http://www.gizmag.com/go/7878/

Josh Reynolds
CIO, SPITwSPOTS
www.spitwspots.comOn 06/12/2015 10:36 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:

  So back to the original post...  didn't Travis have a link in 
that area with a pair of Trango radios? I think MT\UBNT AirMax have something 
that long in one of those other areas I mentioned.




  -
  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions
  http://www.ics-il.com



--

  From: Mike Hammett mailto:af...@ics-il.net
  To: Animal Farm mailto:af@afmug.com
  Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 9:27:08 AM
  Subject: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?

  I'm not sure that this is a record, but no doubt close. Travis 
Johnson had something close in Idaho. I thought someone in South America and 
Italy had links in that area.


  
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/ubiquitir-airfiberr-5x-sets-a-new-world-distance-record-for-wireless-broadband-2015-06-10



  -
  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions
  http://www.ics-il.com



  Midwest Internet Exchange
  http://www.midwest-ix.com












Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?

2015-06-12 Thread Jaime Solorza
Hey put one on an air balloon like Alvarion did.or ISS

Jaime Solorza
On Jun 12, 2015 1:21 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

 Ya good point.  The article is boasting distance.  Not speed/distance.

 Why don't you guys simply ship some AF5x radios to the guys with the XR5
 routerboards???


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 3:13 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote:

 Still didn't beat your own distance record.  :-p



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

 --
 *From: *Matt Hardy m...@ubnt.com
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Friday, June 12, 2015 2:12:31 PM
 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?

 I remember that, but... 155Mbps vs 5Mbps? ;)

 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 2:41 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com
 wrote:

   August 27, 2007 A new world record distance for a 5 GHz Wi-Fi link
 has been achieved by the Italian Center for Radio Activities (C.I.S.A.R),
 and Ubiquiti Networks, a leading innovator in outdoor wireless broadband
 solutions. The distance of 304km (188.89 miles) was established from
 Sardinia Island to Central Italy achieving data-rates of about 5Mbps, using
 Ubiquiti’s XtremeRange5 (XR5) High-Power Carrier Class mini-PCI radio
 module and 35dBi 5 GHz parabolic dish antennas.

 from: http://www.gizmag.com/go/7878/

 Josh Reynolds
 CIO, SPITwSPOTSwww.spitwspots.com

 On 06/12/2015 10:36 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:

 So back to the original post...  didn't Travis have a link in that area
 with a pair of Trango radios? I think MT\UBNT AirMax have something that
 long in one of those other areas I mentioned.



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

 --
 *From: *Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net af...@ics-il.net
 *To: *Animal Farm af@afmug.com af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Friday, June 12, 2015 9:27:08 AM
 *Subject: *[AFMUG] AF5x Record?

 I'm not sure that this is a record, but no doubt close. Travis Johnson
 had something close in Idaho. I thought someone in South America and Italy
 had links in that area.



 http://www.marketwatch.com/story/ubiquitir-airfiberr-5x-sets-a-new-world-distance-record-for-wireless-broadband-2015-06-10



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com



 Midwest Internet Exchange
 http://www.midwest-ix.com









Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?

2015-06-12 Thread Josh Reynolds

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing!

Josh Reynolds
CIO, SPITwSPOTS
www.spitwspots.com

On 06/12/2015 11:12 AM, Matt Hardy wrote:

I remember that, but... 155Mbps vs 5Mbps? ;)

On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 2:41 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com 
mailto:j...@spitwspots.com wrote:


 August 27, 2007 A new world record distance for a 5 GHz Wi-Fi
link has been achieved by the Italian Center for Radio Activities
(C.I.S.A.R), and Ubiquiti Networks, a leading innovator in outdoor
wireless broadband solutions. The distance of 304km (188.89 miles)
was established from Sardinia Island to Central Italy achieving
data-rates of about 5Mbps, using Ubiquiti’s XtremeRange5 (XR5)
High-Power Carrier Class mini-PCI radio module and 35dBi 5 GHz
parabolic dish antennas.

from: http://www.gizmag.com/go/7878/

Josh Reynolds
CIO, SPITwSPOTS
www.spitwspots.com  http://www.spitwspots.com

On 06/12/2015 10:36 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:

So back to the original post...  didn't Travis have a link in
that area with a pair of Trango radios? I think MT\UBNT AirMax
have something that long in one of those other areas I mentioned.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com


*From: *Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net mailto:af...@ics-il.net
*To: *Animal Farm af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Friday, June 12, 2015 9:27:08 AM
*Subject: *[AFMUG] AF5x Record?

I'm not sure that this is a record, but no doubt close. Travis
Johnson had something close in Idaho. I thought someone in South
America and Italy had links in that area.



http://www.marketwatch.com/story/ubiquitir-airfiberr-5x-sets-a-new-world-distance-record-for-wireless-broadband-2015-06-10



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com



Midwest Internet Exchange
http://www.midwest-ix.com









Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?

2015-06-12 Thread Jaime Solorza
Hum. Girth is what they prefer but we digress ...some of you know Jim
Hong..when he was with Wmux he showed me a picture of 200 miles link with 8
footers mtn to mtn using their radios...10mbps ota over 9 mbps on ports.
Before his Orthogan days.  Argentina has long links with amps at 2.4

Jaime Solorza
On Jun 12, 2015 1:54 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote:

 If you're gonna have a length record, girth is irrelevant.  ;-)



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

 --
 *From: *Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Friday, June 12, 2015 2:52:10 PM
 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?

 Yeah, I was thinking the same thing!

 Josh Reynolds
 CIO, SPITwSPOTSwww.spitwspots.com

 On 06/12/2015 11:12 AM, Matt Hardy wrote:

 I remember that, but... 155Mbps vs 5Mbps? ;)

 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 2:41 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com
 wrote:

   August 27, 2007 A new world record distance for a 5 GHz Wi-Fi link
 has been achieved by the Italian Center for Radio Activities (C.I.S.A.R),
 and Ubiquiti Networks, a leading innovator in outdoor wireless broadband
 solutions. The distance of 304km (188.89 miles) was established from
 Sardinia Island to Central Italy achieving data-rates of about 5Mbps, using
 Ubiquiti’s XtremeRange5 (XR5) High-Power Carrier Class mini-PCI radio
 module and 35dBi 5 GHz parabolic dish antennas.

 from: http://www.gizmag.com/go/7878/

 Josh Reynolds
 CIO, SPITwSPOTSwww.spitwspots.com

   On 06/12/2015 10:36 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:

 So back to the original post...  didn't Travis have a link in that area
 with a pair of Trango radios? I think MT\UBNT AirMax have something that
 long in one of those other areas I mentioned.



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

 --
 *From: *Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net af...@ics-il.net
 *To: *Animal Farm af@afmug.com af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Friday, June 12, 2015 9:27:08 AM
 *Subject: *[AFMUG] AF5x Record?

 I'm not sure that this is a record, but no doubt close. Travis Johnson
 had something close in Idaho. I thought someone in South America and Italy
 had links in that area.



 http://www.marketwatch.com/story/ubiquitir-airfiberr-5x-sets-a-new-world-distance-record-for-wireless-broadband-2015-06-10



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com



 Midwest Internet Exchange
 http://www.midwest-ix.com









Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?

2015-06-12 Thread Matt Hardy
Eh?
https://www.facebook.com/ubiquiti/photos/pb.140563119297621.-220752.1434137835./481983171822279

On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 3:36 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
wrote:

 First unlicensed link in space???  First unlicensed link on the moon!!!
 Please Ubnt.


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 3:33 PM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hey put one on an air balloon like Alvarion did.or ISS

 Jaime Solorza
 On Jun 12, 2015 1:21 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 wrote:

 Ya good point.  The article is boasting distance.  Not speed/distance.

 Why don't you guys simply ship some AF5x radios to the guys with the XR5
 routerboards???


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 3:13 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote:

 Still didn't beat your own distance record.  :-p



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

 --
 *From: *Matt Hardy m...@ubnt.com
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Friday, June 12, 2015 2:12:31 PM
 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?

 I remember that, but... 155Mbps vs 5Mbps? ;)

 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 2:41 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com
 wrote:

   August 27, 2007 A new world record distance for a 5 GHz Wi-Fi link
 has been achieved by the Italian Center for Radio Activities (C.I.S.A.R),
 and Ubiquiti Networks, a leading innovator in outdoor wireless broadband
 solutions. The distance of 304km (188.89 miles) was established from
 Sardinia Island to Central Italy achieving data-rates of about 5Mbps, 
 using
 Ubiquiti’s XtremeRange5 (XR5) High-Power Carrier Class mini-PCI radio
 module and 35dBi 5 GHz parabolic dish antennas.

 from: http://www.gizmag.com/go/7878/

 Josh Reynolds
 CIO, SPITwSPOTSwww.spitwspots.com

 On 06/12/2015 10:36 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:

 So back to the original post...  didn't Travis have a link in that
 area with a pair of Trango radios? I think MT\UBNT AirMax have something
 that long in one of those other areas I mentioned.



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

 --
 *From: *Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net af...@ics-il.net
 *To: *Animal Farm af@afmug.com af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Friday, June 12, 2015 9:27:08 AM
 *Subject: *[AFMUG] AF5x Record?

 I'm not sure that this is a record, but no doubt close. Travis Johnson
 had something close in Idaho. I thought someone in South America and Italy
 had links in that area.



 http://www.marketwatch.com/story/ubiquitir-airfiberr-5x-sets-a-new-world-distance-record-for-wireless-broadband-2015-06-10



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com



 Midwest Internet Exchange
 http://www.midwest-ix.com










Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?

2015-06-12 Thread Matt Hardy
I remember that, but... 155Mbps vs 5Mbps? ;)

On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 2:41 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote:

   August 27, 2007 A new world record distance for a 5 GHz Wi-Fi link has
 been achieved by the Italian Center for Radio Activities (C.I.S.A.R), and
 Ubiquiti Networks, a leading innovator in outdoor wireless broadband
 solutions. The distance of 304km (188.89 miles) was established from
 Sardinia Island to Central Italy achieving data-rates of about 5Mbps, using
 Ubiquiti’s XtremeRange5 (XR5) High-Power Carrier Class mini-PCI radio
 module and 35dBi 5 GHz parabolic dish antennas.

 from: http://www.gizmag.com/go/7878/

 Josh Reynolds
 CIO, SPITwSPOTSwww.spitwspots.com

 On 06/12/2015 10:36 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:

 So back to the original post...  didn't Travis have a link in that area
 with a pair of Trango radios? I think MT\UBNT AirMax have something that
 long in one of those other areas I mentioned.



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

 --
 *From: *Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net af...@ics-il.net
 *To: *Animal Farm af@afmug.com af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Friday, June 12, 2015 9:27:08 AM
 *Subject: *[AFMUG] AF5x Record?

 I'm not sure that this is a record, but no doubt close. Travis Johnson had
 something close in Idaho. I thought someone in South America and Italy had
 links in that area.



 http://www.marketwatch.com/story/ubiquitir-airfiberr-5x-sets-a-new-world-distance-record-for-wireless-broadband-2015-06-10



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com



 Midwest Internet Exchange
 http://www.midwest-ix.com






Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?

2015-06-12 Thread Matt Hardy
They were using Ubiquiti radios for Google Loon project, does that count ;)

On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 3:34 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote:

 *nods* I remember the Alvarion one, but that's cheating.  :-p



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

 --
 *From: *Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com
 *To: *Animal Farm af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Friday, June 12, 2015 2:33:58 PM

 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?

 Hey put one on an air balloon like Alvarion did.or ISS

 Jaime Solorza
 On Jun 12, 2015 1:21 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 wrote:

 Ya good point.  The article is boasting distance.  Not speed/distance.

 Why don't you guys simply ship some AF5x radios to the guys with the XR5
 routerboards???


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 3:13 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote:

 Still didn't beat your own distance record.  :-p



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

 --
 *From: *Matt Hardy m...@ubnt.com
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Friday, June 12, 2015 2:12:31 PM
 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?

 I remember that, but... 155Mbps vs 5Mbps? ;)

 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 2:41 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com
 wrote:

   August 27, 2007 A new world record distance for a 5 GHz Wi-Fi link
 has been achieved by the Italian Center for Radio Activities (C.I.S.A.R),
 and Ubiquiti Networks, a leading innovator in outdoor wireless broadband
 solutions. The distance of 304km (188.89 miles) was established from
 Sardinia Island to Central Italy achieving data-rates of about 5Mbps, using
 Ubiquiti’s XtremeRange5 (XR5) High-Power Carrier Class mini-PCI radio
 module and 35dBi 5 GHz parabolic dish antennas.

 from: http://www.gizmag.com/go/7878/

 Josh Reynolds
 CIO, SPITwSPOTSwww.spitwspots.com

 On 06/12/2015 10:36 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:

 So back to the original post...  didn't Travis have a link in that area
 with a pair of Trango radios? I think MT\UBNT AirMax have something that
 long in one of those other areas I mentioned.



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

 --
 *From: *Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net af...@ics-il.net
 *To: *Animal Farm af@afmug.com af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Friday, June 12, 2015 9:27:08 AM
 *Subject: *[AFMUG] AF5x Record?

 I'm not sure that this is a record, but no doubt close. Travis Johnson
 had something close in Idaho. I thought someone in South America and Italy
 had links in that area.



 http://www.marketwatch.com/story/ubiquitir-airfiberr-5x-sets-a-new-world-distance-record-for-wireless-broadband-2015-06-10



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com



 Midwest Internet Exchange
 http://www.midwest-ix.com










Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?

2015-06-12 Thread Mathew Howard
If you can do that with an AF5x, I'll be impressed! :P

On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 3:16 PM, Paul McCall pa...@pdmnet.net wrote:

  Bounce it off the moon and back like the Ham radio guys do



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds
 *Sent:* Friday, June 12, 2015 3:52 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com

 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?



 Yeah, I was thinking the same thing!

  Josh Reynolds

 CIO, SPITwSPOTS

 www.spitwspots.com

  On 06/12/2015 11:12 AM, Matt Hardy wrote:

  I remember that, but... 155Mbps vs 5Mbps? ;)



 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 2:41 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com
 wrote:

  August 27, 2007 A new world record distance for a 5 GHz Wi-Fi link has
 been achieved by the Italian Center for Radio Activities (C.I.S.A.R), and
 Ubiquiti Networks, a leading innovator in outdoor wireless broadband
 solutions. The distance of 304km (188.89 miles) was established from
 Sardinia Island to Central Italy achieving data-rates of about 5Mbps, using
 Ubiquiti’s XtremeRange5 (XR5) High-Power Carrier Class mini-PCI radio
 module and 35dBi 5 GHz parabolic dish antennas.

 from: http://www.gizmag.com/go/7878/

  Josh Reynolds

 CIO, SPITwSPOTS

 www.spitwspots.com

   On 06/12/2015 10:36 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:

  So back to the original post...  didn't Travis have a link in that area
 with a pair of Trango radios? I think MT\UBNT AirMax have something that
 long in one of those other areas I mentioned.



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com


  --

 *From: *Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net af...@ics-il.net
 *To: *Animal Farm af@afmug.com af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Friday, June 12, 2015 9:27:08 AM
 *Subject: *[AFMUG] AF5x Record?

 I'm not sure that this is a record, but no doubt close. Travis Johnson had
 something close in Idaho. I thought someone in South America and Italy had
 links in that area.



 http://www.marketwatch.com/story/ubiquitir-airfiberr-5x-sets-a-new-world-distance-record-for-wireless-broadband-2015-06-10



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com



 Midwest Internet Exchange
 http://www.midwest-ix.com











Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?

2015-06-12 Thread Mike Hammett
If you're gonna have a length record, girth is irrelevant. ;-) 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

- Original Message -

From: Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 2:52:10 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record? 

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing! 
Josh Reynolds
CIO, SPITwSPOTS www.spitwspots.com 
On 06/12/2015 11:12 AM, Matt Hardy wrote: 



I remember that, but... 155Mbps vs 5Mbps? ;) 


On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 2:41 PM, Josh Reynolds  j...@spitwspots.com  wrote: 

blockquote

 August 27, 2007 A new world record distance for a 5 GHz Wi-Fi link has been 
achieved by the Italian Center for Radio Activities (C.I.S.A.R), and Ubiquiti 
Networks, a leading innovator in outdoor wireless broadband solutions. The 
distance of 304km (188.89 miles) was established from Sardinia Island to 
Central Italy achieving data-rates of about 5Mbps, using Ubiquiti’s 
XtremeRange5 (XR5) High-Power Carrier Class mini-PCI radio module and 35dBi 5 
GHz parabolic dish antennas. 

from: http://www.gizmag.com/go/7878/ 
Josh Reynolds
CIO, SPITwSPOTS www.spitwspots.com 


On 06/12/2015 10:36 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: 

blockquote

So back to the original post... didn't Travis have a link in that area with a 
pair of Trango radios? I think MT\UBNT AirMax have something that long in one 
of those other areas I mentioned. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 



From: Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net 
To: Animal Farm af@afmug.com 
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 9:27:08 AM 
Subject: [AFMUG] AF5x Record? 

I'm not sure that this is a record, but no doubt close. Travis Johnson had 
something close in Idaho. I thought someone in South America and Italy had 
links in that area. 


http://www.marketwatch.com/story/ubiquitir-airfiberr-5x-sets-a-new-world-distance-record-for-wireless-broadband-2015-06-10
 



- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 



Midwest Internet Exchange 
http://www.midwest-ix.com 






/blockquote


/blockquote




Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?

2015-06-12 Thread Josh Luthman
They do that with lasers off the mirrors up there, but I've never heard of
the Ham stuff...is that true?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 4:16 PM, Paul McCall pa...@pdmnet.net wrote:

  Bounce it off the moon and back like the Ham radio guys do



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds
 *Sent:* Friday, June 12, 2015 3:52 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com

 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?



 Yeah, I was thinking the same thing!

  Josh Reynolds

 CIO, SPITwSPOTS

 www.spitwspots.com

  On 06/12/2015 11:12 AM, Matt Hardy wrote:

  I remember that, but... 155Mbps vs 5Mbps? ;)



 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 2:41 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com
 wrote:

  August 27, 2007 A new world record distance for a 5 GHz Wi-Fi link has
 been achieved by the Italian Center for Radio Activities (C.I.S.A.R), and
 Ubiquiti Networks, a leading innovator in outdoor wireless broadband
 solutions. The distance of 304km (188.89 miles) was established from
 Sardinia Island to Central Italy achieving data-rates of about 5Mbps, using
 Ubiquiti’s XtremeRange5 (XR5) High-Power Carrier Class mini-PCI radio
 module and 35dBi 5 GHz parabolic dish antennas.

 from: http://www.gizmag.com/go/7878/

  Josh Reynolds

 CIO, SPITwSPOTS

 www.spitwspots.com

   On 06/12/2015 10:36 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:

  So back to the original post...  didn't Travis have a link in that area
 with a pair of Trango radios? I think MT\UBNT AirMax have something that
 long in one of those other areas I mentioned.



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com


  --

 *From: *Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net af...@ics-il.net
 *To: *Animal Farm af@afmug.com af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Friday, June 12, 2015 9:27:08 AM
 *Subject: *[AFMUG] AF5x Record?

 I'm not sure that this is a record, but no doubt close. Travis Johnson had
 something close in Idaho. I thought someone in South America and Italy had
 links in that area.



 http://www.marketwatch.com/story/ubiquitir-airfiberr-5x-sets-a-new-world-distance-record-for-wireless-broadband-2015-06-10



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com



 Midwest Internet Exchange
 http://www.midwest-ix.com











Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?

2015-06-12 Thread Dan Petermann

On Jun 12, 2015, at 3:07 PM, George Skorup geo...@cbcast.com wrote:

 So much for airMax? And there's no windload, so why would it need bricks at 
 all?
 
 On 6/12/2015 2:42 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
 Right but there's only one side of the link...so there's the distance issue.
 
 Also why would they need that many blocks?  Isn't the moon's gravity 1/6?
 
 
 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 
 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 3:38 PM, Matt Hardy m...@ubnt.com wrote:
 Eh?
 https://www.facebook.com/ubiquiti/photos/pb.140563119297621.-220752.1434137835./481983171822279
 
 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 3:36 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com 
 wrote:
 First unlicensed link in space???  First unlicensed link on the moon!!! 
 Please Ubnt.
 
 
 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 
 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 3:33 PM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 Hey put one on an air balloon like Alvarion did.or ISS
 
 Jaime Solorza
 
 On Jun 12, 2015 1:21 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
 Ya good point.  The article is boasting distance.  Not speed/distance.
 
 Why don't you guys simply ship some AF5x radios to the guys with the XR5 
 routerboards???
 
 
 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 
 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 3:13 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote:
 Still didn't beat your own distance record.  :-p
 
 
 
 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com
 
 From: Matt Hardy m...@ubnt.com
 To: af@afmug.com
 Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 2:12:31 PM
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?
 
 I remember that, but... 155Mbps vs 5Mbps? ;) 
 
 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 2:41 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote:
  August 27, 2007 A new world record distance for a 5 GHz Wi-Fi link has 
 been achieved by the Italian Center for Radio Activities (C.I.S.A.R), and 
 Ubiquiti Networks, a leading innovator in outdoor wireless broadband 
 solutions. The distance of 304km (188.89 miles) was established from 
 Sardinia Island to Central Italy achieving data-rates of about 5Mbps, using 
 Ubiquiti’s XtremeRange5 (XR5) High-Power Carrier Class mini-PCI radio module 
 and 35dBi 5 GHz parabolic dish antennas.
 
 from: http://www.gizmag.com/go/7878/
  Josh Reynolds
 CIO, SPITwSPOTS
 www.spitwspots.com
 On 06/12/2015 10:36 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
 So back to the original post...  didn't Travis have a link in that area with 
 a pair of Trango radios? I think MT\UBNT AirMax have something that long in 
 one of those other areas I mentioned.
 
 
 
 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com
 
 From: Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net
 To: Animal Farm af@afmug.com
 Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 9:27:08 AM
 Subject: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?
 
 I'm not sure that this is a record, but no doubt close. Travis Johnson had 
 something close in Idaho. I thought someone in South America and Italy had 
 links in that area.
 
 
 http://www.marketwatch.com/story/ubiquitir-airfiberr-5x-sets-a-new-world-distance-record-for-wireless-broadband-2015-06-10
 
 
 
 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com
 
 
 
 Midwest Internet Exchange
 http://www.midwest-ix.com
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 



Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?

2015-06-12 Thread Ben Moore
Legal limits also apply here...where other were using high powered amps...

 On Jun 12, 2015, at 1:12 PM, Matt Hardy m...@ubnt.com wrote:
 
 I remember that, but... 155Mbps vs 5Mbps? ;) 
 
 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 2:41 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote:
  August 27, 2007 A new world record distance for a 5 GHz Wi-Fi link has 
 been achieved by the Italian Center for Radio Activities (C.I.S.A.R), and 
 Ubiquiti Networks, a leading innovator in outdoor wireless broadband 
 solutions. The distance of 304km (188.89 miles) was established from 
 Sardinia Island to Central Italy achieving data-rates of about 5Mbps, using 
 Ubiquiti’s XtremeRange5 (XR5) High-Power Carrier Class mini-PCI radio module 
 and 35dBi 5 GHz parabolic dish antennas.
 
 from: http://www.gizmag.com/go/7878/
  Josh Reynolds
 CIO, SPITwSPOTS
 www.spitwspots.com
 On 06/12/2015 10:36 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
 So back to the original post...  didn't Travis have a link in that area 
 with a pair of Trango radios? I think MT\UBNT AirMax have something that 
 long in one of those other areas I mentioned.
 
 
 
 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com
 
 From: Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net
 To: Animal Farm af@afmug.com
 Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 9:27:08 AM
 Subject: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?
 
 I'm not sure that this is a record, but no doubt close. Travis Johnson had 
 something close in Idaho. I thought someone in South America and Italy had 
 links in that area.
 
 
 http://www.marketwatch.com/story/ubiquitir-airfiberr-5x-sets-a-new-world-distance-record-for-wireless-broadband-2015-06-10
 
 
 
 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com
 
 
 
 Midwest Internet Exchange
 http://www.midwest-ix.com
 


Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?

2015-06-12 Thread Paul McCall
Bounce it off the moon and back like the Ham radio guys do

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 3:52 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing!


Josh Reynolds

CIO, SPITwSPOTS

www.spitwspots.comhttp://www.spitwspots.com
On 06/12/2015 11:12 AM, Matt Hardy wrote:
I remember that, but... 155Mbps vs 5Mbps? ;)

On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 2:41 PM, Josh Reynolds 
j...@spitwspots.commailto:j...@spitwspots.com wrote:
 August 27, 2007 A new world record distance for a 5 GHz Wi-Fi link has been 
achieved by the Italian Center for Radio Activities (C.I.S.A.R), and Ubiquiti 
Networks, a leading innovator in outdoor wireless broadband solutions. The 
distance of 304km (188.89 miles) was established from Sardinia Island to 
Central Italy achieving data-rates of about 5Mbps, using Ubiquiti’s 
XtremeRange5 (XR5) High-Power Carrier Class mini-PCI radio module and 35dBi 5 
GHz parabolic dish antennas.

from: http://www.gizmag.com/go/7878/


Josh Reynolds

CIO, SPITwSPOTS

www.spitwspots.comhttp://www.spitwspots.com
On 06/12/2015 10:36 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
So back to the original post...  didn't Travis have a link in that area with a 
pair of Trango radios? I think MT\UBNT AirMax have something that long in one 
of those other areas I mentioned.


-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com


From: Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.netmailto:af...@ics-il.net
To: Animal Farm af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 9:27:08 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?

I'm not sure that this is a record, but no doubt close. Travis Johnson had 
something close in Idaho. I thought someone in South America and Italy had 
links in that area.


http://www.marketwatch.com/story/ubiquitir-airfiberr-5x-sets-a-new-world-distance-record-for-wireless-broadband-2015-06-10



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com



Midwest Internet Exchange
http://www.midwest-ix.com






Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?

2015-06-12 Thread Jaime Solorza
Yes off moon. Off moving planes..don't the Voyagers use 8GHz ?

Jaime Solorza
On Jun 12, 2015 2:23 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

 They do that with lasers off the mirrors up there, but I've never heard of
 the Ham stuff...is that true?


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 4:16 PM, Paul McCall pa...@pdmnet.net wrote:

  Bounce it off the moon and back like the Ham radio guys do



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds
 *Sent:* Friday, June 12, 2015 3:52 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com

 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?



 Yeah, I was thinking the same thing!

  Josh Reynolds

 CIO, SPITwSPOTS

 www.spitwspots.com

  On 06/12/2015 11:12 AM, Matt Hardy wrote:

  I remember that, but... 155Mbps vs 5Mbps? ;)



 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 2:41 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com
 wrote:

  August 27, 2007 A new world record distance for a 5 GHz Wi-Fi link has
 been achieved by the Italian Center for Radio Activities (C.I.S.A.R), and
 Ubiquiti Networks, a leading innovator in outdoor wireless broadband
 solutions. The distance of 304km (188.89 miles) was established from
 Sardinia Island to Central Italy achieving data-rates of about 5Mbps, using
 Ubiquiti’s XtremeRange5 (XR5) High-Power Carrier Class mini-PCI radio
 module and 35dBi 5 GHz parabolic dish antennas.

 from: http://www.gizmag.com/go/7878/

  Josh Reynolds

 CIO, SPITwSPOTS

 www.spitwspots.com

   On 06/12/2015 10:36 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:

  So back to the original post...  didn't Travis have a link in that area
 with a pair of Trango radios? I think MT\UBNT AirMax have something that
 long in one of those other areas I mentioned.



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com


  --

 *From: *Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net af...@ics-il.net
 *To: *Animal Farm af@afmug.com af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Friday, June 12, 2015 9:27:08 AM
 *Subject: *[AFMUG] AF5x Record?

 I'm not sure that this is a record, but no doubt close. Travis Johnson
 had something close in Idaho. I thought someone in South America and Italy
 had links in that area.



 http://www.marketwatch.com/story/ubiquitir-airfiberr-5x-sets-a-new-world-distance-record-for-wireless-broadband-2015-06-10



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com



 Midwest Internet Exchange
 http://www.midwest-ix.com













Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?

2015-06-12 Thread George Skorup
So much for airMax? And there's no windload, so why would it need 
bricks at all?


On 6/12/2015 2:42 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
Right but there's only one side of the link...so there's the distance 
issue.


Also why would they need that many blocks?  Isn't the moon's gravity 1/6?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 3:38 PM, Matt Hardy m...@ubnt.com 
mailto:m...@ubnt.com wrote:


Eh?

https://www.facebook.com/ubiquiti/photos/pb.140563119297621.-220752.1434137835./481983171822279

On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 3:36 PM, Josh Luthman
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
wrote:

First unlicensed link in space??? First unlicensed link on the
moon!!! Please Ubnt.


Josh Luthman
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On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 3:33 PM, Jaime Solorza
losguyswirel...@gmail.com mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com
wrote:

Hey put one on an air balloon like Alvarion did.or ISS

Jaime Solorza

On Jun 12, 2015 1:21 PM, Josh Luthman
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

Ya good point.  The article is boasting distance. Not
speed/distance.

Why don't you guys simply ship some AF5x radios to the
guys with the XR5 routerboards???


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On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 3:13 PM, Mike Hammett
af...@ics-il.net mailto:af...@ics-il.net wrote:

Still didn't beat your own distance record.  :-p



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
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*From: *Matt Hardy m...@ubnt.com
mailto:m...@ubnt.com
*To: *af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Friday, June 12, 2015 2:12:31 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?

I remember that, but... 155Mbps vs 5Mbps? ;)

On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 2:41 PM, Josh Reynolds
j...@spitwspots.com mailto:j...@spitwspots.com
wrote:

 August 27, 2007 A new world record distance
for a 5 GHz Wi-Fi link has been achieved by
the Italian Center for Radio Activities
(C.I.S.A.R), and Ubiquiti Networks, a leading
innovator in outdoor wireless broadband
solutions. The distance of 304km (188.89
miles) was established from Sardinia Island to
Central Italy achieving data-rates of about
5Mbps, using Ubiquiti’s XtremeRange5 (XR5)
High-Power Carrier Class mini-PCI radio module
and 35dBi 5 GHz parabolic dish antennas.

from: http://www.gizmag.com/go/7878/

Josh Reynolds
CIO, SPITwSPOTS
www.spitwspots.com  http://www.spitwspots.com

On 06/12/2015 10:36 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:

So back to the original post... didn't
Travis have a link in that area with a
pair of Trango radios? I think MT\UBNT
AirMax have something that long in one of
those other areas I mentioned.



-
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*From: *Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net
mailto:af...@ics-il.net
*To: *Animal Farm af@afmug.com
mailto:af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Friday, June 12, 2015 9:27:08 AM
*Subject: *[AFMUG] AF5x Record?

I'm not sure that this is a record, but no
doubt close. Travis Johnson had something
close in Idaho. I thought someone in South

Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?

2015-06-12 Thread Josh Luthman
First unlicensed link in space???  First unlicensed link on the moon!!!
Please Ubnt.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 3:33 PM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Hey put one on an air balloon like Alvarion did.or ISS

 Jaime Solorza
 On Jun 12, 2015 1:21 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 wrote:

 Ya good point.  The article is boasting distance.  Not speed/distance.

 Why don't you guys simply ship some AF5x radios to the guys with the XR5
 routerboards???


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 3:13 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote:

 Still didn't beat your own distance record.  :-p



 -
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 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

 --
 *From: *Matt Hardy m...@ubnt.com
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Friday, June 12, 2015 2:12:31 PM
 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?

 I remember that, but... 155Mbps vs 5Mbps? ;)

 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 2:41 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com
 wrote:

   August 27, 2007 A new world record distance for a 5 GHz Wi-Fi link
 has been achieved by the Italian Center for Radio Activities (C.I.S.A.R),
 and Ubiquiti Networks, a leading innovator in outdoor wireless broadband
 solutions. The distance of 304km (188.89 miles) was established from
 Sardinia Island to Central Italy achieving data-rates of about 5Mbps, using
 Ubiquiti’s XtremeRange5 (XR5) High-Power Carrier Class mini-PCI radio
 module and 35dBi 5 GHz parabolic dish antennas.

 from: http://www.gizmag.com/go/7878/

 Josh Reynolds
 CIO, SPITwSPOTSwww.spitwspots.com

 On 06/12/2015 10:36 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:

 So back to the original post...  didn't Travis have a link in that area
 with a pair of Trango radios? I think MT\UBNT AirMax have something that
 long in one of those other areas I mentioned.



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

 --
 *From: *Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net af...@ics-il.net
 *To: *Animal Farm af@afmug.com af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Friday, June 12, 2015 9:27:08 AM
 *Subject: *[AFMUG] AF5x Record?

 I'm not sure that this is a record, but no doubt close. Travis Johnson
 had something close in Idaho. I thought someone in South America and Italy
 had links in that area.



 http://www.marketwatch.com/story/ubiquitir-airfiberr-5x-sets-a-new-world-distance-record-for-wireless-broadband-2015-06-10



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Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?

2015-06-12 Thread Josh Luthman
How is that possible?!  What wavelength is it?  What use does it get?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 4:28 PM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yes. A guy I used to work for takes his vacations with a small group. They
 rent a sail boat and set up on a remote island somewhere with solar panels
 and HAM equipment to do moon bounces. They get extra points because they're
 solar powered (and presumably also because they're bouncing off the moon).
 Simplex transmission distance is ~~ 500,000 miles.

 bp
 part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com


 On 6/12/2015 1:22 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

 They do that with lasers off the mirrors up there, but I've never heard
 of the Ham stuff...is that true?





Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?

2015-06-12 Thread Mike Hammett
It's not rare at all and done on several bands. 




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- Original Message -

From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 3:45:06 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record? 


How is that possible?! What wavelength is it? What use does it get? 






Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 

On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 4:28 PM, Bill Prince  part15...@gmail.com  wrote: 


Yes. A guy I used to work for takes his vacations with a small group. They rent 
a sail boat and set up on a remote island somewhere with solar panels and HAM 
equipment to do moon bounces. They get extra points because they're solar 
powered (and presumably also because they're bouncing off the moon). Simplex 
transmission distance is ~~ 500,000 miles. 

bp 
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com 



On 6/12/2015 1:22 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: 

blockquote
They do that with lasers off the mirrors up there, but I've never heard of the 
Ham stuff...is that true? 




/blockquote




Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?

2015-06-12 Thread Bill Prince

Mostly 6M and 2M.

Google is your friend.

   
http://www.nytimes.com/1992/05/03/business/the-executive-life-bouncing-off-the-moon-with-tandem-s-jimmy-t.html

   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth%E2%80%93Moon%E2%80%93Earth_communication

   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZowHqyj6DQ
   
lhttp://www.nytimes.com/1992/05/03/business/the-executive-life-bouncing-off-the-moon-with-tandem-s-jimmy-t.html,,https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth%E2%80%93Moon%E2%80%93Earth_communication,,https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZowHqyj6DQ



bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com

On 6/12/2015 1:45 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

How is that possible?!  What wavelength is it? What use does it get?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 4:28 PM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com 
mailto:part15...@gmail.com wrote:


Yes. A guy I used to work for takes his vacations with a small
group. They rent a sail boat and set up on a remote island
somewhere with solar panels and HAM equipment to do moon bounces.
They get extra points because they're solar powered (and
presumably also because they're bouncing off the moon). Simplex
transmission distance is ~~ 500,000 miles.

bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com


On 6/12/2015 1:22 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

They do that with lasers off the mirrors up there, but I've
never heard of the Ham stuff...is that true?







Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?

2015-06-12 Thread Caleb Knauer
24GHz has been done but not exactly off the shelf parts.
http://www.ve1alq.com/24ghz_eme_r3.pdf

On Friday, June 12, 2015, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote:

 It's not rare at all and done on several bands.



 -
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 Intelligent Computing Solutions
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 --
 *From: *Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','j...@imaginenetworksllc.com');
 *To: *af@afmug.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');
 *Sent: *Friday, June 12, 2015 3:45:06 PM
 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?

 How is that possible?!  What wavelength is it?  What use does it get?


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 4:28 PM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com
 javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','part15...@gmail.com'); wrote:

 Yes. A guy I used to work for takes his vacations with a small group.
 They rent a sail boat and set up on a remote island somewhere with solar
 panels and HAM equipment to do moon bounces. They get extra points because
 they're solar powered (and presumably also because they're bouncing off the
 moon). Simplex transmission distance is ~~ 500,000 miles.

 bp
 part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com


 On 6/12/2015 1:22 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

 They do that with lasers off the mirrors up there, but I've never heard
 of the Ham stuff...is that true?






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[AFMUG] AF5x Record?

2015-06-12 Thread Mike Hammett
I'm not sure that this is a record, but no doubt close. Travis Johnson had 
something close in Idaho. I thought someone in South America and Italy had 
links in that area.


http://www.marketwatch.com/story/ubiquitir-airfiberr-5x-sets-a-new-world-distance-record-for-wireless-broadband-2015-06-10



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Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?

2015-06-12 Thread Jeremy
ok, that makes more sense.  RTFA eh?

On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 8:55 AM, Brian Sullivan installe...@foxvalley.net
wrote:

  3' 34dBi antennas.  Gary goes on to say further into the post that they
 are 31dBi (actual gain)..

 https://community.ubnt.com/t5/airFiber-Stories/eXtra-Long-Distance-225-km-140-miles-AF-5X-Today-and-Tomorrow/cns-p/1258362


 On 6/12/2015 9:52 AM, Ben Moore wrote:

 Isn't that even more impressive?  Worked very well for this link.  Not
 sure what tower was capable on this one...

 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 8:49 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
  wrote:

 The article said you used a 31db dish for a 140 mile link.


  Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 10:47 AM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote:

 huh?  We offer 23, 31 and 34dBi dishes...How many of you are using 4 and
 5' antennas?

 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 8:46 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote:

  Yeah, I've never understood their disdain for useful gain.



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 *From: *Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Friday, June 12, 2015 9:43:55 AM
 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?

 Ubiquiti clearly hates antenna gain.  31 dBi dishes!  AF5 with 23dBi.
 I wonder how much better it would have done with 3' or 6' dishes.


  Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 10:27 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net
 wrote:

 I'm not sure that this is a record, but no doubt close. Travis Johnson
 had something close in Idaho. I thought someone in South America and Italy
 had links in that area.



 http://www.marketwatch.com/story/ubiquitir-airfiberr-5x-sets-a-new-world-distance-record-for-wireless-broadband-2015-06-10



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Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?

2015-06-12 Thread Josh Luthman
Ubiquiti clearly hates antenna gain.  31 dBi dishes!  AF5 with 23dBi.  I
wonder how much better it would have done with 3' or 6' dishes.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 10:27 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote:

 I'm not sure that this is a record, but no doubt close. Travis Johnson had
 something close in Idaho. I thought someone in South America and Italy had
 links in that area.



 http://www.marketwatch.com/story/ubiquitir-airfiberr-5x-sets-a-new-world-distance-record-for-wireless-broadband-2015-06-10



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Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?

2015-06-12 Thread Mike Hammett
Yeah, I've never understood their disdain for useful gain. 




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- Original Message -

From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 9:43:55 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record? 


Ubiquiti clearly hates antenna gain. 31 dBi dishes! AF5 with 23dBi. I wonder 
how much better it would have done with 3' or 6' dishes. 






Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 

On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 10:27 AM, Mike Hammett  af...@ics-il.net  wrote: 


I'm not sure that this is a record, but no doubt close. Travis Johnson had 
something close in Idaho. I thought someone in South America and Italy had 
links in that area. 


http://www.marketwatch.com/story/ubiquitir-airfiberr-5x-sets-a-new-world-distance-record-for-wireless-broadband-2015-06-10
 



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Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?

2015-06-12 Thread Josh Luthman
The article said you used a 31db dish for a 140 mile link.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 10:47 AM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote:

 huh?  We offer 23, 31 and 34dBi dishes...How many of you are using 4 and
 5' antennas?

 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 8:46 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote:

 Yeah, I've never understood their disdain for useful gain.



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 *From: *Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Friday, June 12, 2015 9:43:55 AM
 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?

 Ubiquiti clearly hates antenna gain.  31 dBi dishes!  AF5 with 23dBi.  I
 wonder how much better it would have done with 3' or 6' dishes.


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 10:27 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote:

 I'm not sure that this is a record, but no doubt close. Travis Johnson
 had something close in Idaho. I thought someone in South America and Italy
 had links in that area.



 http://www.marketwatch.com/story/ubiquitir-airfiberr-5x-sets-a-new-world-distance-record-for-wireless-broadband-2015-06-10



 -
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Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?

2015-06-12 Thread Ben Moore
Isn't that even more impressive?  Worked very well for this link.  Not sure
what tower was capable on this one...

On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 8:49 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
wrote:

 The article said you used a 31db dish for a 140 mile link.


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 10:47 AM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote:

 huh?  We offer 23, 31 and 34dBi dishes...How many of you are using 4 and
 5' antennas?

 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 8:46 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote:

 Yeah, I've never understood their disdain for useful gain.



 -
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 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

  https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL
 https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb
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 --
 *From: *Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Friday, June 12, 2015 9:43:55 AM
 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?

 Ubiquiti clearly hates antenna gain.  31 dBi dishes!  AF5 with 23dBi.  I
 wonder how much better it would have done with 3' or 6' dishes.


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 10:27 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote:

 I'm not sure that this is a record, but no doubt close. Travis Johnson
 had something close in Idaho. I thought someone in South America and Italy
 had links in that area.



 http://www.marketwatch.com/story/ubiquitir-airfiberr-5x-sets-a-new-world-distance-record-for-wireless-broadband-2015-06-10



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Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?

2015-06-12 Thread Brian Sullivan
3' 34dBi antennas.  Gary goes on to say further into the post that they 
are 31dBi (actual gain)..

https://community.ubnt.com/t5/airFiber-Stories/eXtra-Long-Distance-225-km-140-miles-AF-5X-Today-and-Tomorrow/cns-p/1258362

On 6/12/2015 9:52 AM, Ben Moore wrote:
Isn't that even more impressive?  Worked very well for this link.  Not 
sure what tower was capable on this one...


On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 8:49 AM, Josh Luthman 
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:


The article said you used a 31db dish for a 140 mile link.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 10:47 AM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com
mailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote:

huh?  We offer 23, 31 and 34dBi dishes...How many of you are
using 4 and 5' antennas?

On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 8:46 AM, Mike Hammett
af...@ics-il.net mailto:af...@ics-il.net wrote:

Yeah, I've never understood their disdain for useful gain.



-
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*From: *Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
*To: *af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Friday, June 12, 2015 9:43:55 AM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?

Ubiquiti clearly hates antenna gain.  31 dBi dishes!  AF5
with 23dBi.  I wonder how much better it would have done
with 3' or 6' dishes.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 10:27 AM, Mike Hammett
af...@ics-il.net mailto:af...@ics-il.net wrote:

I'm not sure that this is a record, but no doubt
close. Travis Johnson had something close in Idaho. I
thought someone in South America and Italy had links
in that area.



http://www.marketwatch.com/story/ubiquitir-airfiberr-5x-sets-a-new-world-distance-record-for-wireless-broadband-2015-06-10



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Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?

2015-06-12 Thread Ben Moore
Ahh...yes, they are the 3' dishes.

On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 8:55 AM, Brian Sullivan installe...@foxvalley.net
wrote:

  3' 34dBi antennas.  Gary goes on to say further into the post that they
 are 31dBi (actual gain)..

 https://community.ubnt.com/t5/airFiber-Stories/eXtra-Long-Distance-225-km-140-miles-AF-5X-Today-and-Tomorrow/cns-p/1258362

 On 6/12/2015 9:52 AM, Ben Moore wrote:

 Isn't that even more impressive?  Worked very well for this link.  Not
 sure what tower was capable on this one...

 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 8:49 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
  wrote:

 The article said you used a 31db dish for a 140 mile link.


  Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 10:47 AM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote:

 huh?  We offer 23, 31 and 34dBi dishes...How many of you are using 4 and
 5' antennas?

 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 8:46 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote:

  Yeah, I've never understood their disdain for useful gain.



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
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 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Friday, June 12, 2015 9:43:55 AM
 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?

 Ubiquiti clearly hates antenna gain.  31 dBi dishes!  AF5 with 23dBi.
 I wonder how much better it would have done with 3' or 6' dishes.


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 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 10:27 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net
 wrote:

 I'm not sure that this is a record, but no doubt close. Travis Johnson
 had something close in Idaho. I thought someone in South America and Italy
 had links in that area.



 http://www.marketwatch.com/story/ubiquitir-airfiberr-5x-sets-a-new-world-distance-record-for-wireless-broadband-2015-06-10



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Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?

2015-06-12 Thread Jeremy
It's definitely impressive, but why wouldn't you have used a 34db dish?

On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 8:52 AM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote:

 Isn't that even more impressive?  Worked very well for this link.  Not
 sure what tower was capable on this one...

 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 8:49 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
  wrote:

 The article said you used a 31db dish for a 140 mile link.


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 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 10:47 AM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote:

 huh?  We offer 23, 31 and 34dBi dishes...How many of you are using 4 and
 5' antennas?

 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 8:46 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote:

 Yeah, I've never understood their disdain for useful gain.



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 *From: *Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Friday, June 12, 2015 9:43:55 AM
 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?

 Ubiquiti clearly hates antenna gain.  31 dBi dishes!  AF5 with 23dBi.
 I wonder how much better it would have done with 3' or 6' dishes.


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 10:27 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net
 wrote:

 I'm not sure that this is a record, but no doubt close. Travis Johnson
 had something close in Idaho. I thought someone in South America and Italy
 had links in that area.



 http://www.marketwatch.com/story/ubiquitir-airfiberr-5x-sets-a-new-world-distance-record-for-wireless-broadband-2015-06-10



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Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?

2015-06-12 Thread Josh Luthman
Did anyone else notice the complete lack of a grounding wire?  I think by
Ubnt publishing and boasting this link, we should all follow suit and
install our radios similarly.


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Direct: 937-552-2343
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On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 11:03 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote:

 How many of us are doing 140 mile links too.  ;-)

 I don't consider anything under ~30 dB worthwhile for backhaul almost
 anywhere.  ;-)

 Anything more than 15 - 20 miles, I go to 34 dB. At 140 miles I wouldn't
 use any less than 8' dishes.



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 *From: *Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Friday, June 12, 2015 9:47:24 AM

 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?

 huh?  We offer 23, 31 and 34dBi dishes...How many of you are using 4 and
 5' antennas?

 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 8:46 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote:

 Yeah, I've never understood their disdain for useful gain.



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 *From: *Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Friday, June 12, 2015 9:43:55 AM
 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?

 Ubiquiti clearly hates antenna gain.  31 dBi dishes!  AF5 with 23dBi.  I
 wonder how much better it would have done with 3' or 6' dishes.


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 10:27 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote:

 I'm not sure that this is a record, but no doubt close. Travis Johnson
 had something close in Idaho. I thought someone in South America and Italy
 had links in that area.



 http://www.marketwatch.com/story/ubiquitir-airfiberr-5x-sets-a-new-world-distance-record-for-wireless-broadband-2015-06-10



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Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?

2015-06-12 Thread Ben Moore
Bad cheerios this morning? ;)

On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 9:04 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
wrote:

 Did anyone else notice the complete lack of a grounding wire?  I think by
 Ubnt publishing and boasting this link, we should all follow suit and
 install our radios similarly.


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 11:03 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote:

 How many of us are doing 140 mile links too.  ;-)

 I don't consider anything under ~30 dB worthwhile for backhaul almost
 anywhere.  ;-)

 Anything more than 15 - 20 miles, I go to 34 dB. At 140 miles I wouldn't
 use any less than 8' dishes.



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 *From: *Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Friday, June 12, 2015 9:47:24 AM

 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?

 huh?  We offer 23, 31 and 34dBi dishes...How many of you are using 4 and
 5' antennas?

 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 8:46 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote:

 Yeah, I've never understood their disdain for useful gain.



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 *From: *Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Friday, June 12, 2015 9:43:55 AM
 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?

 Ubiquiti clearly hates antenna gain.  31 dBi dishes!  AF5 with 23dBi.  I
 wonder how much better it would have done with 3' or 6' dishes.


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 10:27 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote:

 I'm not sure that this is a record, but no doubt close. Travis Johnson
 had something close in Idaho. I thought someone in South America and Italy
 had links in that area.



 http://www.marketwatch.com/story/ubiquitir-airfiberr-5x-sets-a-new-world-distance-record-for-wireless-broadband-2015-06-10



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Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?

2015-06-12 Thread Josh Luthman
No such thing!!!  Cheerios are amazing.  Especially the milk afterward.

I'm just saying don't deny any RMAs due to lack of a ground cable if you're
not practicing what you preach =)


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
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On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 11:06 AM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote:

 Bad cheerios this morning? ;)

 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 9:04 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
  wrote:

 Did anyone else notice the complete lack of a grounding wire?  I think by
 Ubnt publishing and boasting this link, we should all follow suit and
 install our radios similarly.


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 11:03 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote:

 How many of us are doing 140 mile links too.  ;-)

 I don't consider anything under ~30 dB worthwhile for backhaul almost
 anywhere.  ;-)

 Anything more than 15 - 20 miles, I go to 34 dB. At 140 miles I wouldn't
 use any less than 8' dishes.



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 *From: *Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Friday, June 12, 2015 9:47:24 AM

 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?

 huh?  We offer 23, 31 and 34dBi dishes...How many of you are using 4 and
 5' antennas?

 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 8:46 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote:

 Yeah, I've never understood their disdain for useful gain.



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 *From: *Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Friday, June 12, 2015 9:43:55 AM
 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?

 Ubiquiti clearly hates antenna gain.  31 dBi dishes!  AF5 with 23dBi.
 I wonder how much better it would have done with 3' or 6' dishes.


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 10:27 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net
 wrote:

 I'm not sure that this is a record, but no doubt close. Travis Johnson
 had something close in Idaho. I thought someone in South America and Italy
 had links in that area.



 http://www.marketwatch.com/story/ubiquitir-airfiberr-5x-sets-a-new-world-distance-record-for-wireless-broadband-2015-06-10



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Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?

2015-06-12 Thread Colin Stanners
I thought it was common knowledge that Ubiquiti antenna gain numbers add
2-3db in taxes.

On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 10:03 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
wrote:

 Wait I don't understand how is a 34dBi dish labeled as such if it's only
 31dBi?


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
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 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 10:58 AM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote:

 Ahh...yes, they are the 3' dishes.

 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 8:55 AM, Brian Sullivan 
 installe...@foxvalley.net wrote:

  3' 34dBi antennas.  Gary goes on to say further into the post that they
 are 31dBi (actual gain)..

 https://community.ubnt.com/t5/airFiber-Stories/eXtra-Long-Distance-225-km-140-miles-AF-5X-Today-and-Tomorrow/cns-p/1258362

 On 6/12/2015 9:52 AM, Ben Moore wrote:

 Isn't that even more impressive?  Worked very well for this link.  Not
 sure what tower was capable on this one...

 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 8:49 AM, Josh Luthman 
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

 The article said you used a 31db dish for a 140 mile link.


  Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 10:47 AM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote:

 huh?  We offer 23, 31 and 34dBi dishes...How many of you are using 4
 and 5' antennas?

 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 8:46 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net
 wrote:

  Yeah, I've never understood their disdain for useful gain.



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 *From: *Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Friday, June 12, 2015 9:43:55 AM
 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?

 Ubiquiti clearly hates antenna gain.  31 dBi dishes!  AF5 with
 23dBi.  I wonder how much better it would have done with 3' or 6' dishes.


  Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 10:27 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net
 wrote:

 I'm not sure that this is a record, but no doubt close. Travis
 Johnson had something close in Idaho. I thought someone in South America
 and Italy had links in that area.



 http://www.marketwatch.com/story/ubiquitir-airfiberr-5x-sets-a-new-world-distance-record-for-wireless-broadband-2015-06-10



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Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?

2015-06-12 Thread Jaime Solorza
Me.

Jaime Solorza
On Jun 12, 2015 8:47 AM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote:

 huh?  We offer 23, 31 and 34dBi dishes...How many of you are using 4 and
 5' antennas?

 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 8:46 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote:

 Yeah, I've never understood their disdain for useful gain.



 -
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 --
 *From: *Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Friday, June 12, 2015 9:43:55 AM
 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?

 Ubiquiti clearly hates antenna gain.  31 dBi dishes!  AF5 with 23dBi.  I
 wonder how much better it would have done with 3' or 6' dishes.


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 10:27 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote:

 I'm not sure that this is a record, but no doubt close. Travis Johnson
 had something close in Idaho. I thought someone in South America and Italy
 had links in that area.



 http://www.marketwatch.com/story/ubiquitir-airfiberr-5x-sets-a-new-world-distance-record-for-wireless-broadband-2015-06-10



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Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?

2015-06-12 Thread Josh Luthman
Wait I don't understand how is a 34dBi dish labeled as such if it's only
31dBi?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 10:58 AM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote:

 Ahh...yes, they are the 3' dishes.

 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 8:55 AM, Brian Sullivan installe...@foxvalley.net
  wrote:

  3' 34dBi antennas.  Gary goes on to say further into the post that they
 are 31dBi (actual gain)..

 https://community.ubnt.com/t5/airFiber-Stories/eXtra-Long-Distance-225-km-140-miles-AF-5X-Today-and-Tomorrow/cns-p/1258362

 On 6/12/2015 9:52 AM, Ben Moore wrote:

 Isn't that even more impressive?  Worked very well for this link.  Not
 sure what tower was capable on this one...

 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 8:49 AM, Josh Luthman 
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

 The article said you used a 31db dish for a 140 mile link.


  Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 10:47 AM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote:

 huh?  We offer 23, 31 and 34dBi dishes...How many of you are using 4
 and 5' antennas?

 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 8:46 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote:

  Yeah, I've never understood their disdain for useful gain.



 -
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 *From: *Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Friday, June 12, 2015 9:43:55 AM
 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?

 Ubiquiti clearly hates antenna gain.  31 dBi dishes!  AF5 with 23dBi.
 I wonder how much better it would have done with 3' or 6' dishes.


  Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 10:27 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net
 wrote:

 I'm not sure that this is a record, but no doubt close. Travis
 Johnson had something close in Idaho. I thought someone in South America
 and Italy had links in that area.



 http://www.marketwatch.com/story/ubiquitir-airfiberr-5x-sets-a-new-world-distance-record-for-wireless-broadband-2015-06-10



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Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?

2015-06-12 Thread Mike Hammett
How many of us are doing 140 mile links too. ;-) 

I don't consider anything under ~30 dB worthwhile for backhaul almost anywhere. 
;-) 

Anything more than 15 - 20 miles, I go to 34 dB. At 140 miles I wouldn't use 
any less than 8' dishes. 




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- Original Message -

From: Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 9:47:24 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record? 


huh? We offer 23, 31 and 34dBi dishes...How many of you are using 4 and 5' 
antennas? 


On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 8:46 AM, Mike Hammett  af...@ics-il.net  wrote: 




Yeah, I've never understood their disdain for useful gain. 




- 
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From: Josh Luthman  j...@imaginenetworksllc.com  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 9:43:55 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record? 


Ubiquiti clearly hates antenna gain. 31 dBi dishes! AF5 with 23dBi. I wonder 
how much better it would have done with 3' or 6' dishes. 






Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 

On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 10:27 AM, Mike Hammett  af...@ics-il.net  wrote: 

blockquote
I'm not sure that this is a record, but no doubt close. Travis Johnson had 
something close in Idaho. I thought someone in South America and Italy had 
links in that area. 


http://www.marketwatch.com/story/ubiquitir-airfiberr-5x-sets-a-new-world-distance-record-for-wireless-broadband-2015-06-10
 



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/blockquote




Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?

2015-06-12 Thread Ben Moore
My bet is most customers are not using 4 and 5' dishes...or 8' dishes.
Happy to be proven wrong ;)  Speak up now...

On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 9:03 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote:

 How many of us are doing 140 mile links too.  ;-)

 I don't consider anything under ~30 dB worthwhile for backhaul almost
 anywhere.  ;-)

 Anything more than 15 - 20 miles, I go to 34 dB. At 140 miles I wouldn't
 use any less than 8' dishes.



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 *From: *Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Friday, June 12, 2015 9:47:24 AM

 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?

 huh?  We offer 23, 31 and 34dBi dishes...How many of you are using 4 and
 5' antennas?

 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 8:46 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote:

 Yeah, I've never understood their disdain for useful gain.



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 *From: *Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Friday, June 12, 2015 9:43:55 AM
 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?

 Ubiquiti clearly hates antenna gain.  31 dBi dishes!  AF5 with 23dBi.  I
 wonder how much better it would have done with 3' or 6' dishes.


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
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 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 10:27 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote:

 I'm not sure that this is a record, but no doubt close. Travis Johnson
 had something close in Idaho. I thought someone in South America and Italy
 had links in that area.



 http://www.marketwatch.com/story/ubiquitir-airfiberr-5x-sets-a-new-world-distance-record-for-wireless-broadband-2015-06-10



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Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?

2015-06-12 Thread Josh Luthman
I would have to agree (though I haven't filled one in months/years luckily!)


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On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 12:50 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote:

 This was not our link...we helped with it.  I am not sure what they have
 for grounding now but warranty rules still apply ;). I also think we are
 pretty lenient with RMA's...



 On Jun 12, 2015, at 9:09 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 wrote:

 No such thing!!!  Cheerios are amazing.  Especially the milk afterward.

 I'm just saying don't deny any RMAs due to lack of a ground cable if
 you're not practicing what you preach =)


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 11:06 AM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote:

 Bad cheerios this morning? ;)

 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 9:04 AM, Josh Luthman 
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

 Did anyone else notice the complete lack of a grounding wire?  I think
 by Ubnt publishing and boasting this link, we should all follow suit and
 install our radios similarly.


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 11:03 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote:

 How many of us are doing 140 mile links too.  ;-)

 I don't consider anything under ~30 dB worthwhile for backhaul almost
 anywhere.  ;-)

 Anything more than 15 - 20 miles, I go to 34 dB. At 140 miles I
 wouldn't use any less than 8' dishes.



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 *From: *Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Friday, June 12, 2015 9:47:24 AM

 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?

 huh?  We offer 23, 31 and 34dBi dishes...How many of you are using 4
 and 5' antennas?

 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 8:46 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote:

 Yeah, I've never understood their disdain for useful gain.



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 *From: *Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Friday, June 12, 2015 9:43:55 AM
 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?

 Ubiquiti clearly hates antenna gain.  31 dBi dishes!  AF5 with 23dBi.
 I wonder how much better it would have done with 3' or 6' dishes.


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 10:27 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net
 wrote:

 I'm not sure that this is a record, but no doubt close. Travis
 Johnson had something close in Idaho. I thought someone in South America
 and Italy had links in that area.



 http://www.marketwatch.com/story/ubiquitir-airfiberr-5x-sets-a-new-world-distance-record-for-wireless-broadband-2015-06-10



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Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?

2015-06-12 Thread Paul McCall
It would be nice to see the LAT/LONG for it, and the AGL heights for the 
antennas?

Would like to study the topology a bit

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ben Moore
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 12:50 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?

This was not our link...we helped with it.  I am not sure what they have for 
grounding now but warranty rules still apply ;). I also think we are pretty 
lenient with RMA's...


On Jun 12, 2015, at 9:09 AM, Josh Luthman 
j...@imaginenetworksllc.commailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
No such thing!!!  Cheerios are amazing.  Especially the milk afterward.

I'm just saying don't deny any RMAs due to lack of a ground cable if you're not 
practicing what you preach =)


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 11:06 AM, Ben Moore 
ben.mo...@ubnt.commailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote:
Bad cheerios this morning? ;)

On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 9:04 AM, Josh Luthman 
j...@imaginenetworksllc.commailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
Did anyone else notice the complete lack of a grounding wire?  I think by Ubnt 
publishing and boasting this link, we should all follow suit and install our 
radios similarly.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 11:03 AM, Mike Hammett 
af...@ics-il.netmailto:af...@ics-il.net wrote:
How many of us are doing 140 mile links too.  ;-)

I don't consider anything under ~30 dB worthwhile for backhaul almost anywhere. 
 ;-)

Anything more than 15 - 20 miles, I go to 34 dB. At 140 miles I wouldn't use 
any less than 8' dishes.


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From: Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.commailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com
To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 9:47:24 AM

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?
huh?  We offer 23, 31 and 34dBi dishes...How many of you are using 4 and 5' 
antennas?

On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 8:46 AM, Mike Hammett 
af...@ics-il.netmailto:af...@ics-il.net wrote:
Yeah, I've never understood their disdain for useful gain.


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From: Josh Luthman 
j...@imaginenetworksllc.commailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 9:43:55 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?
Ubiquiti clearly hates antenna gain.  31 dBi dishes!  AF5 with 23dBi.  I wonder 
how much better it would have done with 3' or 6' dishes.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 10:27 AM, Mike Hammett 
af...@ics-il.netmailto:af...@ics-il.net wrote:
I'm not sure that this is a record, but no doubt close. Travis Johnson had 
something close in Idaho. I thought someone in South America and Italy had 
links in that area.


http://www.marketwatch.com/story/ubiquitir-airfiberr-5x-sets-a-new-world-distance-record-for-wireless-broadband-2015-06-10



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Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?

2015-06-12 Thread Brian Sullivan

Did you mean this?



On 6/12/2015 11:52 AM, Paul McCall wrote:


It would be nice to see the LAT/LONG for it, and the AGL heights for 
the antennas?


Would like to study the topology a bit

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ben Moore
*Sent:* Friday, June 12, 2015 12:50 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?

This was not our link...we helped with it.  I am not sure what they 
have for grounding now but warranty rules still apply ;). I also think 
we are pretty lenient with RMA's...



On Jun 12, 2015, at 9:09 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com 
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:


No such thing!!!  Cheerios are amazing.  Especially the milk
afterward.

I'm just saying don't deny any RMAs due to lack of a ground cable
if you're not practicing what you preach =)


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 11:06 AM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com
mailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote:

Bad cheerios this morning? ;)

On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 9:04 AM, Josh Luthman
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
wrote:

Did anyone else notice the complete lack of a grounding wire?  I
think by Ubnt publishing and boasting this link, we should all
follow suit and install our radios similarly.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 11:03 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net
mailto:af...@ics-il.net wrote:

How many of us are doing 140 mile links too.  ;-)

I don't consider anything under ~30 dB worthwhile for backhaul
almost anywhere.  ;-)

Anything more than 15 - 20 miles, I go to 34 dB. At 140 miles I
wouldn't use any less than 8' dishes.



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*From: *Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com mailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com
*To: *af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Friday, June 12, 2015 9:47:24 AM


*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?

huh? We offer 23, 31 and 34dBi dishes...How many of you are using
4 and 5' antennas?

On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 8:46 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net
mailto:af...@ics-il.net wrote:

Yeah, I've never understood their disdain for useful gain.



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*From: *Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
*To: *af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Friday, June 12, 2015 9:43:55 AM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?

Ubiquiti clearly hates antenna gain.  31 dBi dishes!  AF5 with
23dBi.  I wonder how much better it would have done with 3' or 6'
dishes.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 10:27 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net
mailto:af...@ics-il.net wrote:

I'm not sure that this is a record, but no doubt close. Travis
Johnson had something close in Idaho. I thought someone in South
America and Italy had links in that area.



http://www.marketwatch.com/story/ubiquitir-airfiberr-5x-sets-a-new-world-distance-record-for-wireless-broadband-2015-06-10



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Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?

2015-06-12 Thread Ben Moore
There is some variance with antennas...Especially over that wide of a band.

On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 9:24 AM, Colin Stanners cstann...@gmail.com wrote:

 I thought it was common knowledge that Ubiquiti antenna gain numbers add
 2-3db in taxes.

 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 10:03 AM, Josh Luthman 
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

 Wait I don't understand how is a 34dBi dish labeled as such if it's only
 31dBi?


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 10:58 AM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote:

 Ahh...yes, they are the 3' dishes.

 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 8:55 AM, Brian Sullivan 
 installe...@foxvalley.net wrote:

  3' 34dBi antennas.  Gary goes on to say further into the post that
 they are 31dBi (actual gain)..

 https://community.ubnt.com/t5/airFiber-Stories/eXtra-Long-Distance-225-km-140-miles-AF-5X-Today-and-Tomorrow/cns-p/1258362

 On 6/12/2015 9:52 AM, Ben Moore wrote:

 Isn't that even more impressive?  Worked very well for this link.  Not
 sure what tower was capable on this one...

 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 8:49 AM, Josh Luthman 
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

 The article said you used a 31db dish for a 140 mile link.


  Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 10:47 AM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com
 wrote:

 huh?  We offer 23, 31 and 34dBi dishes...How many of you are using 4
 and 5' antennas?

 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 8:46 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net
 wrote:

  Yeah, I've never understood their disdain for useful gain.



 -
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 *From: *Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Friday, June 12, 2015 9:43:55 AM
 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?

 Ubiquiti clearly hates antenna gain.  31 dBi dishes!  AF5 with
 23dBi.  I wonder how much better it would have done with 3' or 6' 
 dishes.


  Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 10:27 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net
 wrote:

 I'm not sure that this is a record, but no doubt close. Travis
 Johnson had something close in Idaho. I thought someone in South 
 America
 and Italy had links in that area.



 http://www.marketwatch.com/story/ubiquitir-airfiberr-5x-sets-a-new-world-distance-record-for-wireless-broadband-2015-06-10



 -
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 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com



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Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?

2015-06-12 Thread Ben Moore
This was not our link...we helped with it.  I am not sure what they have for 
grounding now but warranty rules still apply ;). I also think we are pretty 
lenient with RMA's...



 On Jun 12, 2015, at 9:09 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
 
 No such thing!!!  Cheerios are amazing.  Especially the milk afterward.
 
 I'm just saying don't deny any RMAs due to lack of a ground cable if you're 
 not practicing what you preach =)
 
 
 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 
 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 11:06 AM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote:
 Bad cheerios this morning? ;)
 
 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 9:04 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com 
 wrote:
 Did anyone else notice the complete lack of a grounding wire?  I think by 
 Ubnt publishing and boasting this link, we should all follow suit and 
 install our radios similarly.
 
 
 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 
 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 11:03 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote:
 How many of us are doing 140 mile links too.  ;-)
 
 I don't consider anything under ~30 dB worthwhile for backhaul almost 
 anywhere.  ;-)
 
 Anything more than 15 - 20 miles, I go to 34 dB. At 140 miles I wouldn't 
 use any less than 8' dishes.
 
 
 
 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com
 
 
 
 Midwest Internet Exchange
 http://www.midwest-ix.com
 
 
 From: Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com
 To: af@afmug.com
 Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 9:47:24 AM
 
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?
 
 huh?  We offer 23, 31 and 34dBi dishes...How many of you are using 4 and 
 5' antennas?
 
 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 8:46 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote:
 Yeah, I've never understood their disdain for useful gain.
 
 
 
 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com
 
 
 
 Midwest Internet Exchange
 http://www.midwest-ix.com
 
 
 From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 To: af@afmug.com
 Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 9:43:55 AM
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?
 
 Ubiquiti clearly hates antenna gain.  31 dBi dishes!  AF5 with 23dBi.  I 
 wonder how much better it would have done with 3' or 6' dishes.
 
 
 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 
 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 10:27 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote:
 I'm not sure that this is a record, but no doubt close. Travis Johnson 
 had something close in Idaho. I thought someone in South America and 
 Italy had links in that area.
 
 
 http://www.marketwatch.com/story/ubiquitir-airfiberr-5x-sets-a-new-world-distance-record-for-wireless-broadband-2015-06-10
 
 
 
 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com
 
 
 
 Midwest Internet Exchange
 http://www.midwest-ix.com
 


Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?

2015-06-12 Thread Josh Luthman
So what frequency (range) gives you 34?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 1:51 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote:

 There is some variance with antennas...Especially over that wide of a band.

 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 9:24 AM, Colin Stanners cstann...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I thought it was common knowledge that Ubiquiti antenna gain numbers add
 2-3db in taxes.

 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 10:03 AM, Josh Luthman 
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

 Wait I don't understand how is a 34dBi dish labeled as such if it's only
 31dBi?


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 10:58 AM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote:

 Ahh...yes, they are the 3' dishes.

 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 8:55 AM, Brian Sullivan 
 installe...@foxvalley.net wrote:

  3' 34dBi antennas.  Gary goes on to say further into the post that
 they are 31dBi (actual gain)..

 https://community.ubnt.com/t5/airFiber-Stories/eXtra-Long-Distance-225-km-140-miles-AF-5X-Today-and-Tomorrow/cns-p/1258362

 On 6/12/2015 9:52 AM, Ben Moore wrote:

 Isn't that even more impressive?  Worked very well for this link.  Not
 sure what tower was capable on this one...

 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 8:49 AM, Josh Luthman 
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

 The article said you used a 31db dish for a 140 mile link.


  Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 10:47 AM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com
 wrote:

 huh?  We offer 23, 31 and 34dBi dishes...How many of you are using 4
 and 5' antennas?

 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 8:46 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net
 wrote:

  Yeah, I've never understood their disdain for useful gain.



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

  https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL
 https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb
 https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions
 https://twitter.com/ICSIL

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 http://www.midwest-ix.com

  https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix
 https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange
 https://twitter.com/mdwestix
  --
 *From: *Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Friday, June 12, 2015 9:43:55 AM
 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?

 Ubiquiti clearly hates antenna gain.  31 dBi dishes!  AF5 with
 23dBi.  I wonder how much better it would have done with 3' or 6' 
 dishes.


  Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 10:27 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net
 wrote:

 I'm not sure that this is a record, but no doubt close. Travis
 Johnson had something close in Idaho. I thought someone in South 
 America
 and Italy had links in that area.



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Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?

2015-06-12 Thread Mike Hammett
So back to the original post... didn't Travis have a link in that area with a 
pair of Trango radios? I think MT\UBNT AirMax have something that long in one 
of those other areas I mentioned. 




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- Original Message -

From: Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net 
To: Animal Farm af@afmug.com 
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 9:27:08 AM 
Subject: [AFMUG] AF5x Record? 

I'm not sure that this is a record, but no doubt close. Travis Johnson had 
something close in Idaho. I thought someone in South America and Italy had 
links in that area. 


http://www.marketwatch.com/story/ubiquitir-airfiberr-5x-sets-a-new-world-distance-record-for-wireless-broadband-2015-06-10
 



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Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?

2015-06-12 Thread George Skorup

He had a 75-mile 18GHz link, from what I recall.

On 6/12/2015 1:36 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
So back to the original post...  didn't Travis have a link in that 
area with a pair of Trango radios? I think MT\UBNT AirMax have 
something that long in one of those other areas I mentioned.




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*From: *Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net
*To: *Animal Farm af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Friday, June 12, 2015 9:27:08 AM
*Subject: *[AFMUG] AF5x Record?

I'm not sure that this is a record, but no doubt close. Travis Johnson 
had something close in Idaho. I thought someone in South America and 
Italy had links in that area.



http://www.marketwatch.com/story/ubiquitir-airfiberr-5x-sets-a-new-world-distance-record-for-wireless-broadband-2015-06-10



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Mike Hammett
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Re: [AFMUG] AF5x Record?

2015-06-12 Thread Josh Reynolds
 August 27, 2007 A new world record distance for a 5 GHz Wi-Fi link has 
been achieved by the Italian Center for Radio Activities (C.I.S.A.R), 
and Ubiquiti Networks, a leading innovator in outdoor wireless broadband 
solutions. The distance of 304km (188.89 miles) was established from 
Sardinia Island to Central Italy achieving data-rates of about 5Mbps, 
using Ubiquiti’s XtremeRange5 (XR5) High-Power Carrier Class mini-PCI 
radio module and 35dBi 5 GHz parabolic dish antennas.


from: http://www.gizmag.com/go/7878/

Josh Reynolds
CIO, SPITwSPOTS
www.spitwspots.com

On 06/12/2015 10:36 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
So back to the original post...  didn't Travis have a link in that 
area with a pair of Trango radios? I think MT\UBNT AirMax have 
something that long in one of those other areas I mentioned.




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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com


*From: *Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net
*To: *Animal Farm af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Friday, June 12, 2015 9:27:08 AM
*Subject: *[AFMUG] AF5x Record?

I'm not sure that this is a record, but no doubt close. Travis Johnson 
had something close in Idaho. I thought someone in South America and 
Italy had links in that area.



http://www.marketwatch.com/story/ubiquitir-airfiberr-5x-sets-a-new-world-distance-record-for-wireless-broadband-2015-06-10



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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
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