subject:"\[AFMUG\] It's on"

Re: [AFMUG] It's on

2018-03-08 Thread Mitch Koep


What kind of present? cash trip lol


On 3/8/2018 1:30 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

If you present, they will come
*From:* Gino A. Villarini
*Sent:* Thursday, March 08, 2018 12:11 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] It's on
What? No Wi-Gig / Wi-PON
From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Chuck McCown 
<ch...@wbmfg.com>

Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Date: Thursday, March 8, 2018 at 2:29 PM
To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Subject: [AFMUG] It's on
June 12 & 13 AnimalFarm
I even have vendors tracking me down here at WISPAmerica wanting to 
sponsor.
Going to start to put together the agenda. Very short sessions like 
always.

Need the crowd to evolve this thing.
Day 1:
Fiber theory, channels, band plan
SFPs
Passive mux
CWDM DWDM
FTTH network topology
ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ GPON
ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ AE
Pros and cons
OSP Network Components
ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ Costs and Features
ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ Cable
ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ Conduit
ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ Handholes
ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ Splice Cases
ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ Splitters
Cabinets
ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ Cross boxes
ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ Electronics
ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ Powering and cooling
Fiber
ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ Splicing
ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ Connectors
ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ Engineering considerations
ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ Costs
NOC
ï¿½ï¿½ï¿½ MT FTTH in a box solution
Day 2:ï¿½ Hands On
HDD operations
Vacuum Excavators
Hole Hawg and other missiles
Underground location
Eating mass quantities of dead animals.

*//*

*/Gino A. Villarini/*

President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

Re: [AFMUG] It's on

2018-03-08 Thread Jon Langeler

Who cares. Good excuse for a mid summer vacation 

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.


> On Mar 8, 2018, at 3:26 PM, Colin Stanners  wrote:
> 
> AnimalFarm has always been a great conference: very fun, inexpensive, great 
> people and insight, and it helped me gain a massive amount of experience / 
> knowledge / connections in the WISP industry. You could see that Chuck and 
> his crew had the dedication and organization to make things happen.
> 
> But winter AnimalFarm was a good excuse to get out of my cold province during 
> the winters; that doesn't apply to June. Decisions...
> 
> 
>> On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 12:29 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>> June 12 & 13 AnimalFarm
>>  
>> I even have vendors tracking me down here at WISPAmerica wanting to sponsor. 
>>  
>> Going to start to put together the agenda.  Very short sessions like always.
>> Need the crowd to evolve this thing.
>>  
>> Day 1:
>> Fiber theory, channels, band plan
>> SFPs
>> Passive mux
>> CWDM DWDM
>>   
>> FTTH network topology   
>> GPON
>> AE
>> Pros and cons
>>  
>> OSP Network Components
>> Costs and Features
>> Cable
>> Conduit
>> Handholes
>> Splice Cases
>> Splitters
>>  
>> Cabinets
>> Cross boxes
>> Electronics
>> Powering and cooling
>>  
>> Fiber
>> Splicing
>> Connectors
>> Engineering considerations
>> Costs
>>  
>> NOC   
>> MT FTTH in a box solution
>>  
>> Day 2:  Hands On
>> HDD operations
>> Vacuum Excavators
>> Hole Hawg and other missiles
>> Underground location
>> Eating mass quantities of dead animals.
>>  
>>  
>>  
>

Re: [AFMUG] It's on

2018-03-08 Thread Kurt Fankhauser

this sounds awesome!

On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 3:26 PM, Colin Stanners  wrote:

> AnimalFarm has always been a great conference: very fun, inexpensive,
> great people and insight, and it helped me gain a massive amount of
> experience / knowledge / connections in the WISP industry. You could see
> that Chuck and his crew had the dedication and organization to make things
> happen.
>
> But winter AnimalFarm was a good excuse to get out of my cold province
> during the winters; that doesn't apply to June. Decisions...
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 12:29 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
>> June 12 & 13 AnimalFarm
>>
>> I even have vendors tracking me down here at WISPAmerica wanting to
>> sponsor.
>>
>> Going to start to put together the agenda.  Very short sessions like
>> always.
>> Need the crowd to evolve this thing.
>>
>> Day 1:
>> Fiber theory, channels, band plan
>> SFPs
>> Passive mux
>> CWDM DWDM
>>
>> FTTH network topology
>> GPON
>> AE
>> Pros and cons
>>
>> OSP Network Components
>> Costs and Features
>> Cable
>> Conduit
>> Handholes
>> Splice Cases
>> Splitters
>>
>> Cabinets
>> Cross boxes
>> Electronics
>> Powering and cooling
>>
>> Fiber
>> Splicing
>> Connectors
>> Engineering considerations
>> Costs
>>
>> NOC
>> MT FTTH in a box solution
>>
>> Day 2:  Hands On
>> HDD operations
>> Vacuum Excavators
>> Hole Hawg and other missiles
>> Underground location
>> Eating mass quantities of dead animals.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] It's on

2018-03-08 Thread Chuck McCown

Generally, there is still skiing at Snowbird during the first part of June.  
Not guaranteed and this year is a low snow year.  But many times.  

From: Colin Stanners 
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2018 1:26 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] It's on

AnimalFarm has always been a great conference: very fun, inexpensive, great 
people and insight, and it helped me gain a massive amount of experience / 
knowledge / connections in the WISP industry. You could see that Chuck and his 
crew had the dedication and organization to make things happen.

But winter AnimalFarm was a good excuse to get out of my cold province during 
the winters; that doesn't apply to June. Decisions...

On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 12:29 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

  June 12 & 13 AnimalFarm

  I even have vendors tracking me down here at WISPAmerica wanting to sponsor.  

  Going to start to put together the agenda.  Very short sessions like always.
  Need the crowd to evolve this thing.

  Day 1:
  Fiber theory, channels, band plan
  SFPs
  Passive mux
  CWDM DWDM

  FTTH network topology
  GPON
  AE
  Pros and cons

  OSP Network Components
  Costs and Features
  Cable
  Conduit
  Handholes
  Splice Cases
  Splitters

  Cabinets
  Cross boxes
  Electronics
  Powering and cooling

  Fiber 
  Splicing
  Connectors
  Engineering considerations
  Costs

  NOC
  MT FTTH in a box solution

  Day 2:  Hands On
  HDD operations
  Vacuum Excavators
  Hole Hawg and other missiles
  Underground location
  Eating mass quantities of dead animals.

Re: [AFMUG] It's on

2018-03-08 Thread Colin Stanners

AnimalFarm has always been a great conference: very fun, inexpensive, great
people and insight, and it helped me gain a massive amount of experience /
knowledge / connections in the WISP industry. You could see that Chuck and
his crew had the dedication and organization to make things happen.

But winter AnimalFarm was a good excuse to get out of my cold province
during the winters; that doesn't apply to June. Decisions...

On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 12:29 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> June 12 & 13 AnimalFarm
>
> I even have vendors tracking me down here at WISPAmerica wanting to
> sponsor.
>
> Going to start to put together the agenda.  Very short sessions like
> always.
> Need the crowd to evolve this thing.
>
> Day 1:
> Fiber theory, channels, band plan
> SFPs
> Passive mux
> CWDM DWDM
>
> FTTH network topology
> GPON
> AE
> Pros and cons
>
> OSP Network Components
> Costs and Features
> Cable
> Conduit
> Handholes
> Splice Cases
> Splitters
>
> Cabinets
> Cross boxes
> Electronics
> Powering and cooling
>
> Fiber
> Splicing
> Connectors
> Engineering considerations
> Costs
>
> NOC
> MT FTTH in a box solution
>
> Day 2:  Hands On
> HDD operations
> Vacuum Excavators
> Hole Hawg and other missiles
> Underground location
> Eating mass quantities of dead animals.
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] It's on

2018-03-08 Thread Carl Peterson

I'm in if this is an open invite

On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 2:30 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

> If you present, they will come
>
> *From:* Gino A. Villarini
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 08, 2018 12:11 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] It's on
>
> What? No Wi-Gig / Wi-PON
>
> From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com
> >
> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
> Date: Thursday, March 8, 2018 at 2:29 PM
> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
> Subject: [AFMUG] It's on
>
> June 12 & 13 AnimalFarm
>
> I even have vendors tracking me down here at WISPAmerica wanting to
> sponsor.
>
> Going to start to put together the agenda.  Very short sessions like
> always.
> Need the crowd to evolve this thing.
>
> Day 1:
> Fiber theory, channels, band plan
> SFPs
> Passive mux
> CWDM DWDM
>
> FTTH network topology
> GPON
> AE
> Pros and cons
>
> OSP Network Components
> Costs and Features
> Cable
> Conduit
> Handholes
> Splice Cases
> Splitters
>
> Cabinets
> Cross boxes
> Electronics
> Powering and cooling
>
> Fiber
> Splicing
> Connectors
> Engineering considerations
> Costs
>
> NOC
> MT FTTH in a box solution
>
> Day 2:  Hands On
> HDD operations
> Vacuum Excavators
> Hole Hawg and other missiles
> Underground location
> Eating mass quantities of dead animals.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *Gino A. Villarini*
> President
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
>


-- 

Carl Peterson

*PORT NETWORKS*

401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553

Baltimore, MD 21202

(410) 637-3707

Re: [AFMUG] It's on

2018-03-08 Thread Chuck McCown

If you present, they will come

From: Gino A. Villarini 
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2018 12:11 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] It's on

What? No Wi-Gig / Wi-PON 

From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Date: Thursday, March 8, 2018 at 2:29 PM
To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Subject: [AFMUG] It's on

June 12 & 13 AnimalFarm

I even have vendors tracking me down here at WISPAmerica wanting to sponsor.  

Going to start to put together the agenda.  Very short sessions like always.
Need the crowd to evolve this thing.

Day 1:
Fiber theory, channels, band plan
SFPs
Passive mux
CWDM DWDM

FTTH network topology
GPON
AE
Pros and cons

OSP Network Components
Costs and Features
Cable
Conduit
Handholes
Splice Cases
Splitters

Cabinets
Cross boxes
Electronics
Powering and cooling

Fiber 
Splicing
Connectors
Engineering considerations
Costs

NOC
MT FTTH in a box solution

Day 2:  Hands On
HDD operations
Vacuum Excavators
Hole Hawg and other missiles
Underground location
Eating mass quantities of dead animals.

  Gino A. Villarini

  President 
  Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

Re: [AFMUG] It's on

2018-03-08 Thread TJ Trout

I'm in!!! Reserve my seat! Yayy

On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 11:11 AM, Gino A. Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com>
wrote:

> What? No Wi-Gig / Wi-PON
>
> From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com
> >
> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
> Date: Thursday, March 8, 2018 at 2:29 PM
> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
> Subject: [AFMUG] It's on
>
> June 12 & 13 AnimalFarm
>
> I even have vendors tracking me down here at WISPAmerica wanting to
> sponsor.
>
> Going to start to put together the agenda.  Very short sessions like
> always.
> Need the crowd to evolve this thing.
>
> Day 1:
> Fiber theory, channels, band plan
> SFPs
> Passive mux
> CWDM DWDM
>
> FTTH network topology
> GPON
> AE
> Pros and cons
>
> OSP Network Components
> Costs and Features
> Cable
> Conduit
> Handholes
> Splice Cases
> Splitters
>
> Cabinets
> Cross boxes
> Electronics
> Powering and cooling
>
> Fiber
> Splicing
> Connectors
> Engineering considerations
> Costs
>
> NOC
> MT FTTH in a box solution
>
> Day 2:  Hands On
> HDD operations
> Vacuum Excavators
> Hole Hawg and other missiles
> Underground location
> Eating mass quantities of dead animals.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *Gino A. Villarini*
> President
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] It's on

2018-03-08 Thread Gino A. Villarini

What? No Wi-Gig / Wi-PON

From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> on behalf of Chuck 
McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" 
<af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Date: Thursday, March 8, 2018 at 2:29 PM
To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: [AFMUG] It's on

June 12 & 13 AnimalFarm

I even have vendors tracking me down here at WISPAmerica wanting to sponsor.

Going to start to put together the agenda.  Very short sessions like always.
Need the crowd to evolve this thing.

Day 1:
Fiber theory, channels, band plan
SFPs
Passive mux
CWDM DWDM

FTTH network topology
GPON
AE
Pros and cons

OSP Network Components
Costs and Features
Cable
Conduit
Handholes
Splice Cases
Splitters

Cabinets
Cross boxes
Electronics
Powering and cooling

Fiber
Splicing
Connectors
Engineering considerations
Costs

NOC
MT FTTH in a box solution

Day 2:  Hands On
HDD operations
Vacuum Excavators
Hole Hawg and other missiles
Underground location
Eating mass quantities of dead animals.






Gino A. Villarini


President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

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Re: [AFMUG] It's on

2018-03-08 Thread Chuck McCown

I am trying to get the registration button on the afmug.com site working.

-Original Message- 
From: Robert

Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2018 12:04 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] It's on

Can I get my name on the list?

On 3/8/18 10:40 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

You get to present!
*From:* Sterling Jacobson
*Sent:* Thursday, March 08, 2018 11:35 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] It's on

That sounds awesome!

I’m marking that on my calendar right now for myself and some of my 
people, lol

*From:* Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
*Sent:* Thursday, March 8, 2018 11:29 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* [AFMUG] It's on

June 12 & 13 AnimalFarm

I even have vendors tracking me down here at WISPAmerica wanting to 
sponsor.

Going to start to put together the agenda.  Very short sessions like 
always.

Need the crowd to evolve this thing.

Day 1:

Fiber theory, channels, band plan

SFPs

Passive mux

CWDM DWDM

FTTH network topology

GPON

AE

Pros and cons

OSP Network Components

 Costs and Features

Cable

Conduit

Handholes

 Splice Cases

Splitters

Cabinets

 Cross boxes

Electronics

 Powering and cooling

Fiber

Splicing

Connectors

 Engineering considerations

Costs

NOC

 MT FTTH in a box solution

Day 2: Hands On

HDD operations

Vacuum Excavators

Hole Hawg and other missiles

Underground location

Eating mass quantities of dead animals.

Re: [AFMUG] It's on

2018-03-08 Thread Robert


Can I get my name on the list?

On 3/8/18 10:40 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

You get to present!
*From:* Sterling Jacobson
*Sent:* Thursday, March 08, 2018 11:35 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] It's on

That sounds awesome!

I’m marking that on my calendar right now for myself and some of my 
people, lol


*From:* Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
*Sent:* Thursday, March 8, 2018 11:29 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* [AFMUG] It's on

June 12 & 13 AnimalFarm

I even have vendors tracking me down here at WISPAmerica wanting to 
sponsor.


Going to start to put together the agenda.  Very short sessions like always.

Need the crowd to evolve this thing.

Day 1:

Fiber theory, channels, band plan

SFPs

Passive mux

CWDM DWDM

FTTH network topology

GPON

AE

Pros and cons

OSP Network Components

     Costs and Features

Cable

Conduit

Handholes

     Splice Cases

Splitters

Cabinets

     Cross boxes

Electronics

     Powering and cooling

Fiber

Splicing

Connectors

     Engineering considerations

Costs

NOC

     MT FTTH in a box solution

Day 2: Hands On

HDD operations

Vacuum Excavators

Hole Hawg and other missiles

Underground location

Eating mass quantities of dead animals.

Re: [AFMUG] It's on

2018-03-08 Thread Sterling Jacobson

Sure, ok.

Put me down for something I guess.

From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2018 11:41 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] It's on

You get to present!

From: Sterling Jacobson
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2018 11:35 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] It's on

That sounds awesome!

I’m marking that on my calendar right now for myself and some of my people, lol

From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>> On Behalf Of Chuck 
McCown
Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2018 11:29 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: [AFMUG] It's on

June 12 & 13 AnimalFarm

I even have vendors tracking me down here at WISPAmerica wanting to sponsor.

Going to start to put together the agenda.  Very short sessions like always.
Need the crowd to evolve this thing.

Day 1:
Fiber theory, channels, band plan
SFPs
Passive mux
CWDM DWDM

FTTH network topology
GPON
AE
Pros and cons

OSP Network Components
Costs and Features
Cable
Conduit
Handholes
Splice Cases
Splitters

Cabinets
Cross boxes
Electronics
Powering and cooling

Fiber
Splicing
Connectors
Engineering considerations
Costs

NOC
MT FTTH in a box solution

Day 2:  Hands On
HDD operations
Vacuum Excavators
Hole Hawg and other missiles
Underground location
Eating mass quantities of dead animals.

Re: [AFMUG] It's on

2018-03-08 Thread Chuck McCown

You get to present!

From: Sterling Jacobson 
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2018 11:35 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] It's on

That sounds awesome!

 

I’m marking that on my calendar right now for myself and some of my people, lol

 

From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2018 11:29 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] It's on

 

June 12 & 13 AnimalFarm

 

I even have vendors tracking me down here at WISPAmerica wanting to sponsor.  

 

Going to start to put together the agenda.  Very short sessions like always.

Need the crowd to evolve this thing.

 

Day 1:

Fiber theory, channels, band plan

SFPs

Passive mux

CWDM DWDM

   

FTTH network topology

GPON

AE

Pros and cons

 

OSP Network Components

Costs and Features

Cable

Conduit

Handholes

Splice Cases

Splitters

 

Cabinets

Cross boxes

Electronics

Powering and cooling

 

Fiber 

Splicing

Connectors

Engineering considerations

Costs

 

NOC

MT FTTH in a box solution

 

Day 2:  Hands On

HDD operations

Vacuum Excavators

Hole Hawg and other missiles

Underground location

Eating mass quantities of dead animals.

Re: [AFMUG] It's on

2018-03-08 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller

Is the chuck-o-rama still in biz?
Hard to come to slc and talk fiber without eating there

Weekley and I found out the week we spent with you a few summers ago
I don't miss those Motel 6 beds lol 

Sent from my smartphone

- Reply message -
From: "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com>
To: <af@afmug.com>
Subject: [AFMUG] It's on
Date: Thu, Mar 8, 2018 12:29 PM

June 12 & 13 AnimalFarm

I even have vendors tracking me down here at WISPAmerica wanting to
sponsor.  

Going to start to put together the agenda.  Very short sessions like 
always.
Need the crowd to evolve this thing.

Day 1:
Fiber theory, channels, band plan
SFPs
Passive mux
CWDM DWDM

FTTH network topology
GPON
AE
Pros and cons

OSP Network Components
Costs and Features
Cable
Conduit
Handholes
Splice Cases
Splitters

Cabinets
Cross boxes
Electronics
Powering and cooling

Fiber 
Splicing
Connectors
Engineering considerations
Costs

NOC
MT FTTH in a box solution

Day 2:  Hands On
HDD operations
Vacuum Excavators
Hole Hawg and other missiles
Underground location
Eating mass quantities of dead animals.

Re: [AFMUG] It's on

2018-03-08 Thread Sterling Jacobson

That sounds awesome!

I'm marking that on my calendar right now for myself and some of my people, lol

From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2018 11:29 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] It's on

June 12 & 13 AnimalFarm

I even have vendors tracking me down here at WISPAmerica wanting to sponsor.

Going to start to put together the agenda.  Very short sessions like always.
Need the crowd to evolve this thing.

Day 1:
Fiber theory, channels, band plan
SFPs
Passive mux
CWDM DWDM

FTTH network topology
GPON
AE
Pros and cons

OSP Network Components
Costs and Features
Cable
Conduit
Handholes
Splice Cases
Splitters

Cabinets
Cross boxes
Electronics
Powering and cooling

Fiber
Splicing
Connectors
Engineering considerations
Costs

NOC
MT FTTH in a box solution

Day 2:  Hands On
HDD operations
Vacuum Excavators
Hole Hawg and other missiles
Underground location
Eating mass quantities of dead animals.

[AFMUG] It's on

2018-03-08 Thread Chuck McCown

June 12 & 13 AnimalFarm

I even have vendors tracking me down here at WISPAmerica wanting to sponsor.  

Going to start to put together the agenda.  Very short sessions like always.
Need the crowd to evolve this thing.

Day 1:
Fiber theory, channels, band plan
SFPs
Passive mux
CWDM DWDM
   
FTTH network topology
GPON
AE
Pros and cons

OSP Network Components
Costs and Features
Cable
Conduit
Handholes
Splice Cases
Splitters

Cabinets
Cross boxes
Electronics
Powering and cooling

Fiber 
Splicing
Connectors
Engineering considerations
Costs

NOC
MT FTTH in a box solution

Day 2:  Hands On
HDD operations
Vacuum Excavators
Hole Hawg and other missiles
Underground location
Eating mass quantities of dead animals.

Re: [AFMUG] It's heeeeere.... well amost.

2017-07-13 Thread Matt

Are we still on schedule with these?  Hopefully shipping next week?
Rebuilding several of our core sites and space wise this will make it so
much easier and cleaner.


On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 12:47 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) <
li...@packetflux.com> wrote:

> I believe we're into the days category at this point.
>
> The control boards were giving us severe issues with manufacturing.
> Yields were below 50% even after rework, which makes the 50% "good" ones
> suspect also (a normal yield is over 99% before rework).  So I decided to
> scrap the first relatively small batch.
>
>  I made some board corrections to fix some DFM issues and ordered all of
> the stuff we needed to switch from dot printing to stencil printing for the
> solder paste.  This should hopefully fix the issues.  I sent this out
> before the holiday.
>
> I just got back in after taking a few days off over the holiday and the
> revised boards and new stencils were here waiting for me.   Visual
> inspection looks fine.   Hopefully all will go well and we'll be shipping
> in the next week or so.  That is,  as soon as the production staff gets
> back from their vacation.
>
> I like Chuck's description about software being like kids.   This
> particular product seems to be like the kid who fights you every step of
> the way during their early years, yet somehow turns out to be the kid who
> is most responsible when they grow up.   Hopefully this yield issue is the
> last of the unexpected problems and we can move into the responsible
> portion of its life.
>
>
> On Jul 6, 2017 5:16 PM, "Matt"  wrote:
>
>> Any idea how much longer on these?
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 11:02 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) <
>> li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
>>
>>> http://store.packetflux.com/packetflux-rackinjector/
>>>
>>> --
>>> *Forrest Christian* *CEO**, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.*
>>> Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
>>> forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com
>>> 
>>>   
>>>
>>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] It's heeeeere.... well amost.

2017-07-07 Thread chuck

You are gonna love stencil printing.  The pcb house I use makes the stencils 
too for about $120/

From: Forrest Christian (List Account) 
Sent: Thursday, July 6, 2017 11:47 PM
To: af 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] It's here well amost.

I believe we're into the days category at this point. 

The control boards were giving us severe issues with manufacturing.  Yields 
were below 50% even after rework, which makes the 50% "good" ones suspect also 
(a normal yield is over 99% before rework).  So I decided to scrap the first 
relatively small batch. 

I made some board corrections to fix some DFM issues and ordered all of the 
stuff we needed to switch from dot printing to stencil printing for the solder 
paste.  This should hopefully fix the issues.  I sent this out before the 
holiday.

I just got back in after taking a few days off over the holiday and the revised 
boards and new stencils were here waiting for me.   Visual inspection looks 
fine.   Hopefully all will go well and we'll be shipping in the next week or 
so.  That is,  as soon as the production staff gets back from their vacation. 

I like Chuck's description about software being like kids.   This particular 
product seems to be like the kid who fights you every step of the way during 
their early years, yet somehow turns out to be the kid who is most responsible 
when they grow up.   Hopefully this yield issue is the last of the unexpected 
problems and we can move into the responsible portion of its life.

On Jul 6, 2017 5:16 PM, "Matt" <matt.mailingli...@gmail.com> wrote:

  Any idea how much longer on these?

  On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 11:02 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) 
<li...@packetflux.com> wrote:

http://store.packetflux.com/packetflux-rackinjector/

-- 

  Forrest Christian CEO, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.

  Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
  forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com

Re: [AFMUG] It's heeeeere.... well amost.

2017-07-07 Thread chuck

Its my old lady, she had too many kids.  

From: Steve Jones 
Sent: Thursday, July 6, 2017 10:51 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] It's here well amost.

I just dont understand why chuck keeps his kid in a shoe, maybe its one of them 
mormon pajama things

On Jul 6, 2017 9:01 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

  Here’s the deal, when you manufacture products with software they need care 
and feeding like a baby.  They poop, puke and cry.  
  They get drunk, steal cars, knock up the neighbor.  They need to be educated, 
corrected, disciplined.  

  You are constantly cleaning up bugs, (in the past, reducing code size or 
making it faster) adding features, testing and more testing, working on 
inter-op.  Trying to catch and replicate weird stuff customers complain about.  
Software is born, it lives, it dies.  It is never ever done.  

  So each new product is like adding another kid to the shoe.  But for those 
that have had kids, you know  that it never ends.  They still need attention 
and resources and money no matter how old they get.  

  As a one man shop with about 40 software dependent products, I found that I 
was spending 100% of my time debugging, fixing, featuring, inter-op massaging 
etc instead of developing new stuff which is where the fun is.  I quit 
doing it about 2003.  

  I have to resist the urge to do it again (right now thinking of adding zigbee 
or some such thing to my high bay LED systems).  And I have another fun project 
in the works that has software.  Not sure if and when it will get leaked.  

  So, have some compassion for Forrest.  He is up to his belt line with dirty 
diapers at times I imagine.  Schedules skip.  

  From: Steve Jones 
  Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2017 7:49 PM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] It's here well amost.

  Forrest, my man, if you made an integrated 12 to 16 port unit with gui 
controls per port where we dump either a massive 48v or 120v into and we use 
the gui to define the outputs, id give you my

  Old lady, she might be a little rusty and used, maybe a little worn, but she 
can cook ok, and she cleans like a champ. Imp putting up 2 10/100 injectors 
with 48v tommorrow, 3 epmp ap and a 320, burning 4 ports, and i have 2 epmp 
force 200 for backhaul i cant run on unit 2 since i dont have any 30v power 
supplies too keep them from freezing at 24 volts.

  Not complaining at at packetflux products are the shit

  On Jul 6, 2017 6:16 PM, "Matt" <matt.mailingli...@gmail.com> wrote:

Any idea how much longer on these?

On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 11:02 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) 
<li...@packetflux.com> wrote:

  http://store.packetflux.com/packetflux-rackinjector/

  -- 

Forrest Christian CEO, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.

Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com

Re: [AFMUG] It's heeeeere.... well amost.

2017-07-06 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)

I believe we're into the days category at this point.

The control boards were giving us severe issues with manufacturing.  Yields
were below 50% even after rework, which makes the 50% "good" ones suspect
also (a normal yield is over 99% before rework).  So I decided to scrap the
first relatively small batch.

 I made some board corrections to fix some DFM issues and ordered all of
the stuff we needed to switch from dot printing to stencil printing for the
solder paste.  This should hopefully fix the issues.  I sent this out
before the holiday.

I just got back in after taking a few days off over the holiday and the
revised boards and new stencils were here waiting for me.   Visual
inspection looks fine.   Hopefully all will go well and we'll be shipping
in the next week or so.  That is,  as soon as the production staff gets
back from their vacation.

I like Chuck's description about software being like kids.   This
particular product seems to be like the kid who fights you every step of
the way during their early years, yet somehow turns out to be the kid who
is most responsible when they grow up.   Hopefully this yield issue is the
last of the unexpected problems and we can move into the responsible
portion of its life.

On Jul 6, 2017 5:16 PM, "Matt"  wrote:

> Any idea how much longer on these?
>
> On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 11:02 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) <
> li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
>
>> http://store.packetflux.com/packetflux-rackinjector/
>>
>> --
>> *Forrest Christian* *CEO**, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.*
>> Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
>> forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com
>> 
>>   
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] It's heeeeere.... well amost.

2017-07-06 Thread Steve Jones

Fyi, im kidding about my request, the guy offers a relly verastile product,
down to two ports, thats pretty granular. Note im not talking about using a
different product, theyre out there, for xxx the cost..
Im just saying, if im bedding down a honey badger, i might as well ask rhat
the nearby squirrel also give me a back rub.:-)

On Jul 6, 2017 11:51 PM, "Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I just dont understand why chuck keeps his kid in a shoe, maybe its one of
> them mormon pajama things
>
> On Jul 6, 2017 9:01 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>
>> Here’s the deal, when you manufacture products with software they need
>> care and feeding like a baby.  They poop, puke and cry.
>> They get drunk, steal cars, knock up the neighbor.  They need to be
>> educated, corrected, disciplined.
>>
>> You are constantly cleaning up bugs, (in the past, reducing code size or
>> making it faster) adding features, testing and more testing, working on
>> inter-op.  Trying to catch and replicate weird stuff customers complain
>> about.  Software is born, it lives, it dies.  It is never ever done.
>>
>> So each new product is like adding another kid to the shoe.  But for
>> those that have had kids, you know  that it never ends.  They still need
>> attention and resources and money no matter how old they get.
>>
>> As a one man shop with about 40 software dependent products, I found that
>> I was spending 100% of my time debugging, fixing, featuring, inter-op
>> massaging etc instead of developing new stuff which is where the fun
>> is.  I quit doing it about 2003.
>>
>> I have to resist the urge to do it again (right now thinking of adding
>> zigbee or some such thing to my high bay LED systems).  And I have another
>> fun project in the works that has software.  Not sure if and when it will
>> get leaked.
>>
>> So, have some compassion for Forrest.  He is up to his belt line with
>> dirty diapers at times I imagine.  Schedules skip.
>>
>> *From:* Steve Jones
>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 06, 2017 7:49 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] It's here well amost.
>>
>> Forrest, my man, if you made an integrated 12 to 16 port unit with gui
>> controls per port where we dump either a massive 48v or 120v into and we
>> use the gui to define the outputs, id give you my
>> Old lady, she might be a little rusty and used, maybe a little worn, but
>> she can cook ok, and she cleans like a champ. Imp putting up 2 10/100
>> injectors with 48v tommorrow, 3 epmp ap and a 320, burning 4 ports, and i
>> have 2 epmp force 200 for backhaul i cant run on unit 2 since i dont have
>> any 30v power supplies too keep them from freezing at 24 volts.
>>
>> Not complaining at at packetflux products are the shit
>> On Jul 6, 2017 6:16 PM, "Matt" <matt.mailingli...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Any idea how much longer on these?
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 11:02 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) <
>> li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
>>
>>> http://store.packetflux.com/packetflux-rackinjector/
>>>
>>> --
>>> *Forrest Christian* *CEO**, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.*
>>> Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
>>> forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com
>>> <http://www.linkedin.com/in/fwchristian>
>>> <http://facebook.com/packetflux>  <http://twitter.com/@packetflux>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] It's heeeeere.... well amost.

2017-07-06 Thread Steve Jones

I just dont understand why chuck keeps his kid in a shoe, maybe its one of
them mormon pajama things

On Jul 6, 2017 9:01 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

> Here’s the deal, when you manufacture products with software they need
> care and feeding like a baby.  They poop, puke and cry.
> They get drunk, steal cars, knock up the neighbor.  They need to be
> educated, corrected, disciplined.
>
> You are constantly cleaning up bugs, (in the past, reducing code size or
> making it faster) adding features, testing and more testing, working on
> inter-op.  Trying to catch and replicate weird stuff customers complain
> about.  Software is born, it lives, it dies.  It is never ever done.
>
> So each new product is like adding another kid to the shoe.  But for those
> that have had kids, you know  that it never ends.  They still need
> attention and resources and money no matter how old they get.
>
> As a one man shop with about 40 software dependent products, I found that
> I was spending 100% of my time debugging, fixing, featuring, inter-op
> massaging etc instead of developing new stuff which is where the fun
> is.  I quit doing it about 2003.
>
> I have to resist the urge to do it again (right now thinking of adding
> zigbee or some such thing to my high bay LED systems).  And I have another
> fun project in the works that has software.  Not sure if and when it will
> get leaked.
>
> So, have some compassion for Forrest.  He is up to his belt line with
> dirty diapers at times I imagine.  Schedules skip.
>
> *From:* Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 06, 2017 7:49 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] It's here well amost.
>
> Forrest, my man, if you made an integrated 12 to 16 port unit with gui
> controls per port where we dump either a massive 48v or 120v into and we
> use the gui to define the outputs, id give you my
> Old lady, she might be a little rusty and used, maybe a little worn, but
> she can cook ok, and she cleans like a champ. Imp putting up 2 10/100
> injectors with 48v tommorrow, 3 epmp ap and a 320, burning 4 ports, and i
> have 2 epmp force 200 for backhaul i cant run on unit 2 since i dont have
> any 30v power supplies too keep them from freezing at 24 volts.
>
> Not complaining at at packetflux products are the shit
> On Jul 6, 2017 6:16 PM, "Matt" <matt.mailingli...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Any idea how much longer on these?
>
> On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 11:02 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) <
> li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
>
>> http://store.packetflux.com/packetflux-rackinjector/
>>
>> --
>> *Forrest Christian* *CEO**, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.*
>> Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
>> forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com
>> <http://www.linkedin.com/in/fwchristian>
>> <http://facebook.com/packetflux>  <http://twitter.com/@packetflux>
>>
>>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] It's heeeeere.... well amost.

2017-07-06 Thread Chuck McCown

Here’s the deal, when you manufacture products with software they need care and 
feeding like a baby.  They poop, puke and cry.  
They get drunk, steal cars, knock up the neighbor.  They need to be educated, 
corrected, disciplined.  

You are constantly cleaning up bugs, (in the past, reducing code size or making 
it faster) adding features, testing and more testing, working on inter-op.  
Trying to catch and replicate weird stuff customers complain about.  Software 
is born, it lives, it dies.  It is never ever done.  

So each new product is like adding another kid to the shoe.  But for those that 
have had kids, you know  that it never ends.  They still need attention and 
resources and money no matter how old they get.  

As a one man shop with about 40 software dependent products, I found that I was 
spending 100% of my time debugging, fixing, featuring, inter-op massaging etc 
instead of developing new stuff which is where the fun is.  I quit doing it 
about 2003.  

I have to resist the urge to do it again (right now thinking of adding zigbee 
or some such thing to my high bay LED systems).  And I have another fun project 
in the works that has software.  Not sure if and when it will get leaked.  

So, have some compassion for Forrest.  He is up to his belt line with dirty 
diapers at times I imagine.  Schedules skip.  

From: Steve Jones 
Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2017 7:49 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] It's here well amost.

Forrest, my man, if you made an integrated 12 to 16 port unit with gui controls 
per port where we dump either a massive 48v or 120v into and we use the gui to 
define the outputs, id give you my

Old lady, she might be a little rusty and used, maybe a little worn, but she 
can cook ok, and she cleans like a champ. Imp putting up 2 10/100 injectors 
with 48v tommorrow, 3 epmp ap and a 320, burning 4 ports, and i have 2 epmp 
force 200 for backhaul i cant run on unit 2 since i dont have any 30v power 
supplies too keep them from freezing at 24 volts.

Not complaining at at packetflux products are the shit

On Jul 6, 2017 6:16 PM, "Matt" <matt.mailingli...@gmail.com> wrote:

  Any idea how much longer on these?

  On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 11:02 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) 
<li...@packetflux.com> wrote:

http://store.packetflux.com/packetflux-rackinjector/


-- 

  Forrest Christian CEO, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.

  Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
  forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com

Re: [AFMUG] It's heeeeere.... well amost.

2017-07-06 Thread Steve Jones

Forrest, my man, if you made an integrated 12 to 16 port unit with gui
controls per port where we dump either a massive 48v or 120v into and we
use the gui to define the outputs, id give you my
Old lady, she might be a little rusty and used, maybe a little worn, but
she can cook ok, and she cleans like a champ. Imp putting up 2 10/100
injectors with 48v tommorrow, 3 epmp ap and a 320, burning 4 ports, and i
have 2 epmp force 200 for backhaul i cant run on unit 2 since i dont have
any 30v power supplies too keep them from freezing at 24 volts.

Not complaining at at packetflux products are the shit
On Jul 6, 2017 6:16 PM, "Matt"  wrote:

Any idea how much longer on these?

On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 11:02 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) <
li...@packetflux.com> wrote:

> http://store.packetflux.com/packetflux-rackinjector/
>
> --
> *Forrest Christian* *CEO**, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.*
> Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
> forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com
>   
>   
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] It's heeeeere.... well amost.

2017-07-06 Thread Matt

Any idea how much longer on these?

On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 11:02 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) <
li...@packetflux.com> wrote:

> http://store.packetflux.com/packetflux-rackinjector/
>
> --
> *Forrest Christian* *CEO**, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.*
> Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
> forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com
>   
>   
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] It's heeeeere.... well amost.

2017-05-18 Thread Matt

How much longer?

On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 11:02 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) <
li...@packetflux.com> wrote:

> http://store.packetflux.com/packetflux-rackinjector/
>
> --
> *Forrest Christian* *CEO**, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.*
> Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
> forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com
>   
>   
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] It's always something

2017-04-29 Thread Jaime Solorza

I am going to write this one up

On Apr 29, 2017 10:26 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

> Always satisfying to see an RX level the same or better than your
> calculations.
>
> *From:* Jaime Solorza
> *Sent:* Saturday, April 29, 2017 9:23 PM
> *To:* Animal Farm
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] It's always something
>
> Replaced the premade LMR-600 cable shipped from some RF company with 1/2
> Heliax and linked went from -67dBm to -44dBm...My calculation was
> -45.9dBm!!!  Radio station guys are super happyI got a new client. ..
>
> On Apr 26, 2017 7:24 AM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I got paid well
>>
>> On Apr 26, 2017 7:22 AM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>
>>> So you got paid twice? ;-)
>>>
>>> *From:* Jaime Solorza
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 25, 2017 7:48 PM
>>> *To:* Animal Farm
>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] It's always something
>>>
>>> I was hired to find interference in or near 950.00Mhz for an STL
>>> relocation... Didn't find anything They moved linked and in afternoon
>>> started getting interference...Went up to mountain receive side and
>>> couldn't pick up the 950.00 MHz yet station is blasting out at 97.5Mhz
>>> FM.The actual transmit signal was at 940.525MHz   They are going to
>>> change it tonight.My old realistic scanner proved it's worth yet
>>> again...Also used Icom PCR_1000
>>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] It's always something

2017-04-29 Thread Jaime Solorza

Yes.  I did them a week before and stood my ground on math...Validation is
Cool feeling.   Trust the math..

On Apr 29, 2017 10:26 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

> Always satisfying to see an RX level the same or better than your
> calculations.
>
> *From:* Jaime Solorza
> *Sent:* Saturday, April 29, 2017 9:23 PM
> *To:* Animal Farm
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] It's always something
>
> Replaced the premade LMR-600 cable shipped from some RF company with 1/2
> Heliax and linked went from -67dBm to -44dBm...My calculation was
> -45.9dBm!!!  Radio station guys are super happyI got a new client. ..
>
> On Apr 26, 2017 7:24 AM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I got paid well
>>
>> On Apr 26, 2017 7:22 AM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>
>>> So you got paid twice? ;-)
>>>
>>> *From:* Jaime Solorza
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 25, 2017 7:48 PM
>>> *To:* Animal Farm
>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] It's always something
>>>
>>> I was hired to find interference in or near 950.00Mhz for an STL
>>> relocation... Didn't find anything They moved linked and in afternoon
>>> started getting interference...Went up to mountain receive side and
>>> couldn't pick up the 950.00 MHz yet station is blasting out at 97.5Mhz
>>> FM.The actual transmit signal was at 940.525MHz   They are going to
>>> change it tonight.My old realistic scanner proved it's worth yet
>>> again...Also used Icom PCR_1000
>>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] It's always something

2017-04-29 Thread Chuck McCown

Always satisfying to see an RX level the same or better than your calculations. 

From: Jaime Solorza 
Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2017 9:23 PM
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] It's always something

Replaced the premade LMR-600 cable shipped from some RF company with 1/2 Heliax 
and linked went from -67dBm to -44dBm...My calculation was -45.9dBm!!!  Radio 
station guys are super happyI got a new client. ..

On Apr 26, 2017 7:24 AM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:

  I got paid well

  On Apr 26, 2017 7:22 AM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

So you got paid twice? ;-)

From: Jaime Solorza 
Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2017 7:48 PM
    To: Animal Farm 
Subject: [AFMUG] It's always something

I was hired to find interference in or near 950.00Mhz for an STL 
relocation... Didn't find anything They moved linked and in afternoon 
started getting interference...Went up to mountain receive side and couldn't 
pick up the 950.00 MHz yet station is blasting out at 97.5Mhz FM.The actual 
transmit signal was at 940.525MHz   They are going to change it 
tonight.My old realistic scanner proved it's worth yet again...Also used 
Icom PCR_1000

Re: [AFMUG] It's always something

2017-04-29 Thread Jaime Solorza

We used Narda box with HP analyzer to sweep line at both locations... The
TX side one was bad...Been a while since I have worked with radio
stationsGood money and interesting stuff.

On Apr 29, 2017 9:23 PM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Replaced the premade LMR-600 cable shipped from some RF company with 1/2
> Heliax and linked went from -67dBm to -44dBm...My calculation was
> -45.9dBm!!!  Radio station guys are super happyI got a new client. ..
>
> On Apr 26, 2017 7:24 AM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I got paid well
>>
>> On Apr 26, 2017 7:22 AM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>
>>> So you got paid twice? ;-)
>>>
>>> *From:* Jaime Solorza
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 25, 2017 7:48 PM
>>> *To:* Animal Farm
>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] It's always something
>>>
>>> I was hired to find interference in or near 950.00Mhz for an STL
>>> relocation... Didn't find anything They moved linked and in afternoon
>>> started getting interference...Went up to mountain receive side and
>>> couldn't pick up the 950.00 MHz yet station is blasting out at 97.5Mhz
>>> FM.The actual transmit signal was at 940.525MHz   They are going to
>>> change it tonight.My old realistic scanner proved it's worth yet
>>> again...Also used Icom PCR_1000
>>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] It's always something

2017-04-29 Thread Jaime Solorza

Replaced the premade LMR-600 cable shipped from some RF company with 1/2
Heliax and linked went from -67dBm to -44dBm...My calculation was
-45.9dBm!!!  Radio station guys are super happyI got a new client. ..

On Apr 26, 2017 7:24 AM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I got paid well
>
> On Apr 26, 2017 7:22 AM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>
>> So you got paid twice? ;-)
>>
>> *From:* Jaime Solorza
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 25, 2017 7:48 PM
>> *To:* Animal Farm
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] It's always something
>>
>> I was hired to find interference in or near 950.00Mhz for an STL
>> relocation... Didn't find anything They moved linked and in afternoon
>> started getting interference...Went up to mountain receive side and
>> couldn't pick up the 950.00 MHz yet station is blasting out at 97.5Mhz
>> FM.The actual transmit signal was at 940.525MHz   They are going to
>> change it tonight.My old realistic scanner proved it's worth yet
>> again...Also used Icom PCR_1000
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] It's always something

2017-04-26 Thread Jaime Solorza

I got paid well

On Apr 26, 2017 7:22 AM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

> So you got paid twice? ;-)
>
> *From:* Jaime Solorza
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 25, 2017 7:48 PM
> *To:* Animal Farm
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] It's always something
>
> I was hired to find interference in or near 950.00Mhz for an STL
> relocation... Didn't find anything They moved linked and in afternoon
> started getting interference...Went up to mountain receive side and
> couldn't pick up the 950.00 MHz yet station is blasting out at 97.5Mhz
> FM.The actual transmit signal was at 940.525MHz   They are going to
> change it tonight.My old realistic scanner proved it's worth yet
> again...Also used Icom PCR_1000
>

Re: [AFMUG] It's always something

2017-04-26 Thread Chuck McCown

So you got paid twice? ;-)

From: Jaime Solorza 
Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2017 7:48 PM
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: [AFMUG] It's always something

I was hired to find interference in or near 950.00Mhz for an STL relocation... 
Didn't find anything They moved linked and in afternoon started getting 
interference...Went up to mountain receive side and couldn't pick up the 950.00 
MHz yet station is blasting out at 97.5Mhz FM.The actual transmit signal 
was at 940.525MHz   They are going to change it tonight.My old 
realistic scanner proved it's worth yet again...Also used Icom PCR_1000

Re: [AFMUG] It's heeeeere.... well amost.

2017-03-07 Thread Dave


Now we need one that will fit in my 2 cmm4 outdoor cabinets.
the cabinets is all I have left after a storm took not one but 2 out on 
the same tower till we figured out

how the lightning was destroying them but they did protect the radios.
 a few static-cats and in-line DC-surge blocks later and were good.



On 02/28/2017 11:02 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:

http://store.packetflux.com/packetflux-rackinjector/

--
*Forrest Christian* /CEO//, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc./
Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
forre...@imach.com  | 
http://www.packetflux.com 
 
 





--

Re: [AFMUG] It's heeeeere.... well amost.

2017-03-07 Thread Dave


ok, now you have my attention..


On 02/28/2017 11:02 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:

http://store.packetflux.com/packetflux-rackinjector/

--
*Forrest Christian* /CEO//, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc./
Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
forre...@imach.com  | 
http://www.packetflux.com 
 
 





--

Re: [AFMUG] It's heeeeere.... well amost.

2017-03-01 Thread Joe Falaschi

They had to change the sync over power method because the old method would not 
work with the 450m’s much larger power draw and the necessity of gigabit 
ethernet data rates.

Joe



> On Mar 1, 2017, at 9:55 AM, Josh Luthman  wrote:
> 
> Why in the piss did they change sync for the 450m??  There's already 2 
> methods *FROM CAMBIUM*!
> 
> 
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> 
> On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 1:17 AM, Colin Stanners  > wrote:
> MSPGGA!
> 
> Make Sync Product GUIs Great Again!.
> 
> On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 11:02 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) 
> > wrote:
> http://store.packetflux.com/packetflux-rackinjector/ 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Forrest Christian CEO, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.
> Tel: 406-449-3345 <> | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
> forre...@imach.com  | http://www.packetflux.com 
> 
>      
> 
> 
> 
>

Re: [AFMUG] It's heeeeere.... well amost.

2017-03-01 Thread Josh Luthman

Why in the piss did they change sync for the 450m??  There's already 2
methods *FROM CAMBIUM*!


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 1:17 AM, Colin Stanners  wrote:

> MSPGGA!
>
> Make Sync Product GUIs Great Again!.
>
> On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 11:02 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) <
> li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
>
>> http://store.packetflux.com/packetflux-rackinjector/
>>
>> --
>> *Forrest Christian* *CEO**, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.*
>> Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
>> forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com
>> 
>>   
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] It's heeeeere.... well amost.

2017-02-28 Thread Colin Stanners

MSPGGA!

Make Sync Product GUIs Great Again!.

On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 11:02 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) <
li...@packetflux.com> wrote:

> http://store.packetflux.com/packetflux-rackinjector/
>
> --
> *Forrest Christian* *CEO**, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.*
> Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
> forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com
>   
>   
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] It's heeeeere.... well amost.

2017-02-28 Thread George Skorup

Fully loaded for $750? That is freakin amazing. This thing is going to 
look so nice sitting next to a PRM24 loaded with GigE-APC's.


On 2/28/2017 11:02 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:

http://store.packetflux.com/packetflux-rackinjector/

--
*Forrest Christian* /CEO//, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc./
Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
forre...@imach.com  | 
http://www.packetflux.com

[AFMUG] It's heeeeere.... well amost.

2017-02-28 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)

http://store.packetflux.com/packetflux-rackinjector/

-- 
*Forrest Christian* *CEO**, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.*
Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com

Re: [AFMUG] It's not Friday but you have to love the advertising effort

2015-03-23 Thread Josh Luthman

Gino'ed


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 11:24 AM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net
wrote:

  Dropped the wife off at the airport and saw this when I was leaving.
 This is a company that knows it’s target market.





 *Rory Conaway **• Triad Wireless •** CEO*

 *4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040*

 *602-426-0542 602-426-0542*

 *r...@triadwireless.net r...@triadwireless.net*

 *www.triadwireless.net http://www.triadwireless.net/*



 *It is better to walk alone, than with a crowd going the wrong direction.*

Re: [AFMUG] It's not Friday but you have to love the advertising effort

2015-03-23 Thread Nate Burke


A dry cleaners here has had a sign forever

DROP YOUR PANTS
here 2/$3


On 3/23/2015 10:38 AM, Rory Conaway wrote:


Yep, and I admire the cleverness.  We are seeing more of this type of 
catchy billboards around Phoenix and they get attention. One of the 
had a picture of a model sweating with the phrase “your wife is hot” 
followed by, “get her a new air-conditioner”.  The point isn’t the sex 
sells issue but the catch and message.  We have been working on yard 
signs and it gave me a couple ideas on what we need to do to catch the 
eye of someone driving 40mph.


Rory

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Stefan Englhardt
*Sent:* Monday, March 23, 2015 8:33 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] It's not Friday but you have to love the 
advertising effort


You noticed, so ….

*Von:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im Auftrag von *Rory Conaway
*Gesendet:* Montag, 23. März 2015 16:25
*An:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
*Betreff:* [AFMUG] It's not Friday but you have to love the 
advertising effort


Dropped the wife off at the airport and saw this when I was leaving.  
This is a company that knows it’s target market.


*Rory Conaway **• Triad Wireless •**CEO*

*4226 S. 37^th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040*

*602-426-0542*

*r...@triadwireless.net mailto:r...@triadwireless.net*

*www.triadwireless.net http://www.triadwireless.net/*

**

*It is better to walk alone, than with a crowd going the wrong direction.*

Re: [AFMUG] It's not Friday but you have to love the advertising effort

2015-03-23 Thread Stefan Englhardt

You noticed, so 





Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Rory Conaway
Gesendet: Montag, 23. März 2015 16:25
An: af@afmug.com
Betreff: [AFMUG] It's not Friday but you have to love the advertising effort



Dropped the wife off at the airport and saw this when I was leaving.  This is a 
company that knows it's target market.





Rory Conaway * Triad Wireless * CEO

4226 S. 37th Street * Phoenix * AZ 85040

602-426-0542

r...@triadwireless.net mailto:r...@triadwireless.net

www.triadwireless.net http://www.triadwireless.net/



It is better to walk alone, than with a crowd going the wrong direction.

Re: [AFMUG] It's not Friday but you have to love the advertising effort

2015-03-23 Thread Rory Conaway

Yep, and I admire the cleverness.  We are seeing more of this type of catchy 
billboards around Phoenix and they get attention.  One of the had a picture of 
a model sweating with the phrase your wife is hot followed by, get her a new 
air-conditioner.  The point isn't the sex sells issue but the catch and 
message.  We have been working on yard signs and it gave me a couple ideas on 
what we need to do to catch the eye of someone driving 40mph.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Stefan Englhardt
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 8:33 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] It's not Friday but you have to love the advertising effort

You noticed, so 


Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Rory Conaway
Gesendet: Montag, 23. März 2015 16:25
An: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com
Betreff: [AFMUG] It's not Friday but you have to love the advertising effort

Dropped the wife off at the airport and saw this when I was leaving.  This is a 
company that knows it's target market.


Rory Conaway * Triad Wireless * CEO
4226 S. 37th Street * Phoenix * AZ 85040
602-426-0542
r...@triadwireless.netmailto:r...@triadwireless.net
www.triadwireless.nethttp://www.triadwireless.net/

It is better to walk alone, than with a crowd going the wrong direction.

Re: [AFMUG] It's not Friday but you have to love the advertising effort

2015-03-23 Thread Ken Hohhof

I am working on getting some postcards printed and ran a list of possible stock 
photos by my wife.  When I asked her what makes her read a postcard ad rather 
than throw it away, she said “a picture of someone using the product”, yet she 
found this photo offensive:
https://us.fotolia.com/id/28194311

Then she added some comment about “it might work with your clientele”.


From: Nate Burke 
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 10:41 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] It's not Friday but you have to love the advertising effort

A dry cleaners here has had a sign forever

DROP YOUR PANTS
here 2/$3



On 3/23/2015 10:38 AM, Rory Conaway wrote:

  Yep, and I admire the cleverness.  We are seeing more of this type of catchy 
billboards around Phoenix and they get attention.  One of the had a picture of 
a model sweating with the phrase “your wife is hot” followed by, “get her a new 
air-conditioner”.  The point isn’t the sex sells issue but the catch and 
message.  We have been working on yard signs and it gave me a couple ideas on 
what we need to do to catch the eye of someone driving 40mph.  

   

  Rory  

   

  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Stefan Englhardt
  Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 8:33 AM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] It's not Friday but you have to love the advertising 
effort

   

  You noticed, so ….

   

   

  Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Rory Conaway
  Gesendet: Montag, 23. März 2015 16:25
  An: af@afmug.com
  Betreff: [AFMUG] It's not Friday but you have to love the advertising effort

   

  Dropped the wife off at the airport and saw this when I was leaving.  This is 
a company that knows it’s target market.  

   

   

  Rory Conaway • Triad Wireless • CEO

  4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040

  602-426-0542

  r...@triadwireless.net

  www.triadwireless.net

   

  It is better to walk alone, than with a crowd going the wrong direction.

Re: [AFMUG] It's not Friday but you have to love theadvertising effort

2015-03-23 Thread Chuck McCown

I remember back in the 1970s there was a radio station in Portland Oregon with 
the call sign KISN.  They had a tag line of “we’ve been kissin’ your wife”.  
There was such a stink I think they lost the call sign.  

From: Rory Conaway 
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 9:38 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] It's not Friday but you have to love theadvertising effort

Yep, and I admire the cleverness.  We are seeing more of this type of catchy 
billboards around Phoenix and they get attention.  One of the had a picture of 
a model sweating with the phrase “your wife is hot” followed by, “get her a new 
air-conditioner”.  The point isn’t the sex sells issue but the catch and 
message.  We have been working on yard signs and it gave me a couple ideas on 
what we need to do to catch the eye of someone driving 40mph.  

Rory  

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Stefan Englhardt
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 8:33 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] It's not Friday but you have to love the advertising effort

You noticed, so ….

Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Rory Conaway
Gesendet: Montag, 23. März 2015 16:25
An: af@afmug.com
Betreff: [AFMUG] It's not Friday but you have to love the advertising effort

Dropped the wife off at the airport and saw this when I was leaving.  This is a 
company that knows it’s target market.  

Rory Conaway • Triad Wireless • CEO

4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040

602-426-0542

r...@triadwireless.net

www.triadwireless.net

It is better to walk alone, than with a crowd going the wrong direction.

Re: [AFMUG] It's not Friday but you have to love the advertising effort

2015-03-23 Thread Mike Hammett

Can I buy your service? 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

- Original Message -

From: Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 11:04:14 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] It's not Friday but you have to love the advertising 
effort 




I am working on getting some postcards printed and ran a list of possible stock 
photos by my wife. When I asked her what makes her read a postcard ad rather 
than throw it away, she said “a picture of someone using the product”, yet she 
found this photo offensive: 
https://us.fotolia.com/id/28194311 

Then she added some comment about “it might work with your clientele”. 





From: Nate Burke 
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 10:41 AM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] It's not Friday but you have to love the advertising 
effort 

A dry cleaners here has had a sign forever 

DROP YOUR PANTS 
here 2/$3 



On 3/23/2015 10:38 AM, Rory Conaway wrote: 




Yep, and I admire the cleverness. We are seeing more of this type of catchy 
billboards around Phoenix and they get attention. One of the had a picture of a 
model sweating with the phrase “your wife is hot” followed by, “get her a new 
air-conditioner”. The point isn’t the sex sells issue but the catch and 
message. We have been working on yard signs and it gave me a couple ideas on 
what we need to do to catch the eye of someone driving 40mph. 

Rory 



From: Af [ mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Stefan Englhardt 
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 8:33 AM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] It's not Friday but you have to love the advertising 
effort 

You noticed, so …. 




Von: Af [ mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] Im Auftrag von Rory Conaway 
Gesendet: Montag, 23. März 2015 16:25 
An: af@afmug.com 
Betreff: [AFMUG] It's not Friday but you have to love the advertising effort 

Dropped the wife off at the airport and saw this when I was leaving. This is a 
company that knows it’s target market. 


Rory Conaway • Triad Wireless • CEO 
4226 S. 37 th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040 
602-426-0542 
r...@triadwireless.net 
www.triadwireless.net 

It is better to walk alone, than with a crowd going the wrong direction.

Re: [AFMUG] It's not Friday but you have to love the advertisingeffort

2015-03-23 Thread Jeremy

Yeah, according to most statistics Utah consumes more porn than any other
state.  http://www.pcworld.com/article/160566/utah_online_porn.html


...that doesn't mean that sexual advertising will go over well here
though.  What they do in the privacy of their homes is very different from
the image that they attempt to portray to the rest of the world.

On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 11:21 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

   Mormon’s consume porn, they just deny they consume porn.

  *From:* Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 *Sent:* Monday, March 23, 2015 11:20 AM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] It's not Friday but you have to love the
 advertisingeffort

  You're in Mormon country...


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 1:18 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote:

 I thought about a FREE PORN yard sign campaign, LOLfor my
 competitors.  In my area we can't even use graphics with women whose
 shoulders are showing without offending people.  I envy those of you in the
 big cities who can use sex to sell Internet.  It's an easy sell, but it
 won't work here.

 On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 10:08 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote:

  Can I buy your service?



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

 --
 *From: *Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Monday, March 23, 2015 11:04:14 AM
 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] It's not Friday but you have to love the
 advertisingeffort

  I am working on getting some postcards printed and ran a list of
 possible stock photos by my wife.  When I asked her what makes her read a
 postcard ad rather than throw it away, she said “a picture of someone using
 the product”, yet she found this photo offensive:
 https://us.fotolia.com/id/28194311

 Then she added some comment about “it might work with your clientele”.


  *From:* Nate Burke n...@blastcomm.com
 *Sent:* Monday, March 23, 2015 10:41 AM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] It's not Friday but you have to love the
 advertising effort

 A dry cleaners here has had a sign forever

 DROP YOUR PANTS
 here 2/$3


 On 3/23/2015 10:38 AM, Rory Conaway wrote:

  Yep, and I admire the cleverness.  We are seeing more of this type of
 catchy billboards around Phoenix and they get attention.  One of the had a
 picture of a model sweating with the phrase “your wife is hot” followed by,
 “get her a new air-conditioner”.  The point isn’t the sex sells issue but
 the catch and message.  We have been working on yard signs and it gave me a
 couple ideas on what we need to do to catch the eye of someone driving
 40mph.



 Rory



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On
 Behalf Of *Stefan Englhardt
 *Sent:* Monday, March 23, 2015 8:33 AM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] It's not Friday but you have to love the
 advertising effort



 You noticed, so ….





 *Von:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im
 Auftrag von *Rory Conaway
 *Gesendet:* Montag, 23. März 2015 16:25
 *An:* af@afmug.com
 *Betreff:* [AFMUG] It's not Friday but you have to love the advertising
 effort



 Dropped the wife off at the airport and saw this when I was leaving.
 This is a company that knows it’s target market.





 *Rory Conaway **• Triad Wireless •** CEO*

 *4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040*

 *602-426-0542 602-426-0542*

 *r...@triadwireless.net r...@triadwireless.net*

 *www.triadwireless.net http://www.triadwireless.net/*



 *It is better to walk alone, than with a crowd going the wrong
 direction.*

Re: [AFMUG] It's not Friday but you have to love the advertisingeffort

2015-03-23 Thread Chuck McCown

Humm, haystacks, girls... nice memories...

  From: Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com
  To: af@afmug.com
  Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 11:04:14 AM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] It's not Friday but you have to love the advertising 
   effort

  I am working on getting some postcards printed and ran a list of possible 
stock photos by my wife.  When I asked her what makes her read a postcard ad 
rather than throw it away, she said “a picture of someone using the product”, 
yet she found this photo offensive:
  https://us.fotolia.com/id/28194311

  Then she added some comment about “it might work with your clientele”.

  From: Nate Burke 
  Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 10:41 AM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] It's not Friday but you have to love the advertising 
effort

  A dry cleaners here has had a sign forever

  DROP YOUR PANTS
  here 2/$3

  On 3/23/2015 10:38 AM, Rory Conaway wrote:

Yep, and I admire the cleverness.  We are seeing more of this type of 
catchy billboards around Phoenix and they get attention.  One of the had a 
picture of a model sweating with the phrase “your wife is hot” followed by, 
“get her a new air-conditioner”.  The point isn’t the sex sells issue but the 
catch and message.  We have been working on yard signs and it gave me a couple 
ideas on what we need to do to catch the eye of someone driving 40mph.  

Rory  

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Stefan Englhardt
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 8:33 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] It's not Friday but you have to love the advertising 
effort

You noticed, so ….

Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Rory Conaway
Gesendet: Montag, 23. März 2015 16:25
An: af@afmug.com
Betreff: [AFMUG] It's not Friday but you have to love the advertising effort

Dropped the wife off at the airport and saw this when I was leaving.  This 
is a company that knows it’s target market.  

Rory Conaway • Triad Wireless • CEO

4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040

602-426-0542

r...@triadwireless.net

www.triadwireless.net

It is better to walk alone, than with a crowd going the wrong direction.

Re: [AFMUG] It's not Friday but you have to love the advertisingeffort

2015-03-23 Thread Kurt Fankhauser

And also the Mormon women have it engrained in them that they have to have
perfect bodies. They will have 4 or more kids and work out so much that
they don't look like they ever have had any. And also a lot of them get
breast implants. All of this might have something to do with the post above
about Utah being the capitol for consumed porn in the U.S.


Kurt Fankhauser

Wavelinc Communications

P.O. Box 126

Bucyrus, OH 44820

http://www.wavelinc.com

tel. 419-562-6405

fax. 419-617-0110

On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 1:26 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
wrote:

 Do as I say, not as I do.  That doesn't sound religious at all.


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 1:24 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yeah, according to most statistics Utah consumes more porn than any other
 state.  http://www.pcworld.com/article/160566/utah_online_porn.html


 ...that doesn't mean that sexual advertising will go over well here
 though.  What they do in the privacy of their homes is very different from
 the image that they attempt to portray to the rest of the world.

 On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 11:21 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

   Mormon’s consume porn, they just deny they consume porn.

  *From:* Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 *Sent:* Monday, March 23, 2015 11:20 AM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] It's not Friday but you have to love the
 advertisingeffort

  You're in Mormon country...


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 1:18 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote:

 I thought about a FREE PORN yard sign campaign, LOLfor my
 competitors.  In my area we can't even use graphics with women whose
 shoulders are showing without offending people.  I envy those of you in the
 big cities who can use sex to sell Internet.  It's an easy sell, but it
 won't work here.

 On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 10:08 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net
 wrote:

  Can I buy your service?



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

 --
 *From: *Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Monday, March 23, 2015 11:04:14 AM
 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] It's not Friday but you have to love the
 advertisingeffort

  I am working on getting some postcards printed and ran a list of
 possible stock photos by my wife.  When I asked her what makes her read a
 postcard ad rather than throw it away, she said “a picture of someone 
 using
 the product”, yet she found this photo offensive:
 https://us.fotolia.com/id/28194311

 Then she added some comment about “it might work with your clientele”.


  *From:* Nate Burke n...@blastcomm.com
 *Sent:* Monday, March 23, 2015 10:41 AM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] It's not Friday but you have to love the
 advertising effort

 A dry cleaners here has had a sign forever

 DROP YOUR PANTS
 here 2/$3


 On 3/23/2015 10:38 AM, Rory Conaway wrote:

  Yep, and I admire the cleverness.  We are seeing more of this type
 of catchy billboards around Phoenix and they get attention.  One of the 
 had
 a picture of a model sweating with the phrase “your wife is hot” followed
 by, “get her a new air-conditioner”.  The point isn’t the sex sells issue
 but the catch and message.  We have been working on yard signs and it gave
 me a couple ideas on what we need to do to catch the eye of someone 
 driving
 40mph.



 Rory



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On
 Behalf Of *Stefan Englhardt
 *Sent:* Monday, March 23, 2015 8:33 AM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] It's not Friday but you have to love the
 advertising effort



 You noticed, so ….





 *Von:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im
 Auftrag von *Rory Conaway
 *Gesendet:* Montag, 23. März 2015 16:25
 *An:* af@afmug.com
 *Betreff:* [AFMUG] It's not Friday but you have to love the
 advertising effort



 Dropped the wife off at the airport and saw this when I was leaving.
 This is a company that knows it’s target market.





 *Rory Conaway **• Triad Wireless •** CEO*

 *4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040*

 *602-426-0542 602-426-0542*

 *r...@triadwireless.net r...@triadwireless.net*

 *www.triadwireless.net http://www.triadwireless.net/*



 *It is better to walk alone, than with a crowd going the wrong
 direction.*

Re: [AFMUG] It's not Friday but you have to love the advertisingeffort

2015-03-23 Thread Josh Luthman

Do as I say, not as I do.  That doesn't sound religious at all.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 1:24 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yeah, according to most statistics Utah consumes more porn than any other
 state.  http://www.pcworld.com/article/160566/utah_online_porn.html


 ...that doesn't mean that sexual advertising will go over well here
 though.  What they do in the privacy of their homes is very different from
 the image that they attempt to portray to the rest of the world.

 On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 11:21 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

   Mormon’s consume porn, they just deny they consume porn.

  *From:* Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 *Sent:* Monday, March 23, 2015 11:20 AM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] It's not Friday but you have to love the
 advertisingeffort

  You're in Mormon country...


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 1:18 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote:

 I thought about a FREE PORN yard sign campaign, LOLfor my
 competitors.  In my area we can't even use graphics with women whose
 shoulders are showing without offending people.  I envy those of you in the
 big cities who can use sex to sell Internet.  It's an easy sell, but it
 won't work here.

 On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 10:08 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote:

  Can I buy your service?



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

 --
 *From: *Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Monday, March 23, 2015 11:04:14 AM
 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] It's not Friday but you have to love the
 advertisingeffort

  I am working on getting some postcards printed and ran a list of
 possible stock photos by my wife.  When I asked her what makes her read a
 postcard ad rather than throw it away, she said “a picture of someone using
 the product”, yet she found this photo offensive:
 https://us.fotolia.com/id/28194311

 Then she added some comment about “it might work with your clientele”.


  *From:* Nate Burke n...@blastcomm.com
 *Sent:* Monday, March 23, 2015 10:41 AM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] It's not Friday but you have to love the
 advertising effort

 A dry cleaners here has had a sign forever

 DROP YOUR PANTS
 here 2/$3


 On 3/23/2015 10:38 AM, Rory Conaway wrote:

  Yep, and I admire the cleverness.  We are seeing more of this type of
 catchy billboards around Phoenix and they get attention.  One of the had a
 picture of a model sweating with the phrase “your wife is hot” followed by,
 “get her a new air-conditioner”.  The point isn’t the sex sells issue but
 the catch and message.  We have been working on yard signs and it gave me a
 couple ideas on what we need to do to catch the eye of someone driving
 40mph.



 Rory



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On
 Behalf Of *Stefan Englhardt
 *Sent:* Monday, March 23, 2015 8:33 AM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] It's not Friday but you have to love the
 advertising effort



 You noticed, so ….





 *Von:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im
 Auftrag von *Rory Conaway
 *Gesendet:* Montag, 23. März 2015 16:25
 *An:* af@afmug.com
 *Betreff:* [AFMUG] It's not Friday but you have to love the
 advertising effort



 Dropped the wife off at the airport and saw this when I was leaving.
 This is a company that knows it’s target market.





 *Rory Conaway **• Triad Wireless •** CEO*

 *4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040*

 *602-426-0542 602-426-0542*

 *r...@triadwireless.net r...@triadwireless.net*

 *www.triadwireless.net http://www.triadwireless.net/*



 *It is better to walk alone, than with a crowd going the wrong
 direction.*

Re: [AFMUG] It's not Friday but you have to love the advertisingeffort

2015-03-23 Thread Kurt Fankhauser

I have family that lives near Salt Lake and they said that most Mormons are
very conservative and their church doesn't believe in drinking alcohol but
he said he's never seen so many empty beer boxes/cans/bottles out by curb
on trash pickup days as when they lived in that area.


Kurt Fankhauser

Wavelinc Communications

P.O. Box 126

Bucyrus, OH 44820

http://www.wavelinc.com

tel. 419-562-6405

fax. 419-617-0110

On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 1:21 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

   Mormon’s consume porn, they just deny they consume porn.

  *From:* Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 *Sent:* Monday, March 23, 2015 11:20 AM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] It's not Friday but you have to love the
 advertisingeffort

  You're in Mormon country...


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 1:18 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote:

 I thought about a FREE PORN yard sign campaign, LOLfor my
 competitors.  In my area we can't even use graphics with women whose
 shoulders are showing without offending people.  I envy those of you in the
 big cities who can use sex to sell Internet.  It's an easy sell, but it
 won't work here.

 On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 10:08 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote:

  Can I buy your service?



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

 --
 *From: *Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Monday, March 23, 2015 11:04:14 AM
 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] It's not Friday but you have to love the
 advertisingeffort

  I am working on getting some postcards printed and ran a list of
 possible stock photos by my wife.  When I asked her what makes her read a
 postcard ad rather than throw it away, she said “a picture of someone using
 the product”, yet she found this photo offensive:
 https://us.fotolia.com/id/28194311

 Then she added some comment about “it might work with your clientele”.


  *From:* Nate Burke n...@blastcomm.com
 *Sent:* Monday, March 23, 2015 10:41 AM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] It's not Friday but you have to love the
 advertising effort

 A dry cleaners here has had a sign forever

 DROP YOUR PANTS
 here 2/$3


 On 3/23/2015 10:38 AM, Rory Conaway wrote:

  Yep, and I admire the cleverness.  We are seeing more of this type of
 catchy billboards around Phoenix and they get attention.  One of the had a
 picture of a model sweating with the phrase “your wife is hot” followed by,
 “get her a new air-conditioner”.  The point isn’t the sex sells issue but
 the catch and message.  We have been working on yard signs and it gave me a
 couple ideas on what we need to do to catch the eye of someone driving
 40mph.



 Rory



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On
 Behalf Of *Stefan Englhardt
 *Sent:* Monday, March 23, 2015 8:33 AM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] It's not Friday but you have to love the
 advertising effort



 You noticed, so ….





 *Von:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im
 Auftrag von *Rory Conaway
 *Gesendet:* Montag, 23. März 2015 16:25
 *An:* af@afmug.com
 *Betreff:* [AFMUG] It's not Friday but you have to love the advertising
 effort



 Dropped the wife off at the airport and saw this when I was leaving.
 This is a company that knows it’s target market.





 *Rory Conaway **• Triad Wireless •** CEO*

 *4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040*

 *602-426-0542 602-426-0542*

 *r...@triadwireless.net r...@triadwireless.net*

 *www.triadwireless.net http://www.triadwireless.net/*



 *It is better to walk alone, than with a crowd going the wrong
 direction.*

Re: [AFMUG] It's time for a second SSID on the Air Routers and Air Gateways.

2014-12-31 Thread joseph marsh via Af

+1
On Dec 30, 2014 11:29 PM, Rory Conaway via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 As much as I’d like to stay with those devices, lack of a second SSID for
 guests for example, is becoming a problem.  I had 3 people in the last 2
 weeks ask for this feature and I don’t disagree with them.  Come on guys,
 we’ve been asking for this for 5 years.  It’s time.



 Rory Conaway
 Triad Wireless
 4226 S. 37th Street
 Phoenix, Az.  85040
 602-426-0542
 r...@triadwireless.net
 www.triadwireless.net



 “Mediocrity finds safety in standardization. -- Frederick Crane”

Re: [AFMUG] It's time for a second SSID on the Air Routers and Air Gateways.

2014-12-31 Thread Mark Radabaugh via Af

Make that on all of the products.   Two SSID’s on the AP - a ‘install’ SSID 
that the CPE can associate to by default, and a ‘sector’ SSID that we use to 
lock the CPE to the sector once it’s installed.   

What is so hard about this?   Cisco Aironet AP's could do this 15 years ago.

Mark

 On Dec 31, 2014, at 8:48 AM, joseph marsh via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
 
 +1
 
 On Dec 30, 2014 11:29 PM, Rory Conaway via Af af@afmug.com 
 mailto:af@afmug.com wrote:
 As much as I’d like to stay with those devices, lack of a second SSID for 
 guests for example, is becoming a problem.  I had 3 people in the last 2 
 weeks ask for this feature and I don’t disagree with them.  Come on guys, 
 we’ve been asking for this for 5 years.  It’s time.
 
  
 
 Rory Conaway
 Triad Wireless
 4226 S. 37th Street
 Phoenix, Az.  85040
 602-426-0542 tel:602-426-0542
 r...@triadwireless.net mailto:r...@triadwireless.net
 www.triadwireless.net http://www.triadwireless.net/
  
 
 “Mediocrity finds safety in standardization. -- Frederick Crane”

Re: [AFMUG] It's time for a second SSID on the Air Routers and Air Gateways.

2014-12-31 Thread Mike Hammett via Af

They'll say, We weren't aware anyone wanted that. That's what the vendors say 
when they don't want to actually tell us why they haven't done something. 

I haven't been too excited about multi-SSID in the macro network, but 
auto-associated and provisioned CPE would be nice. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

- Original Message -

From: Mark Radabaugh via Af af@afmug.com 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2014 7:53:17 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] It's time for a second SSID on the Air Routers and Air 
Gateways. 


Make that on all of the products. Two SSID’s on the AP - a ‘install’ SSID that 
the CPE can associate to by default, and a ‘sector’ SSID that we use to lock 
the CPE to the sector once it’s installed. 


What is so hard about this? Cisco Aironet AP's could do this 15 years ago. 


Mark 




On Dec 31, 2014, at 8:48 AM, joseph marsh via Af  af@afmug.com  wrote: 


+1 
On Dec 30, 2014 11:29 PM, Rory Conaway via Af  af@afmug.com  wrote: 

blockquote



As much as I’d like to stay with those devices, lack of a second SSID for 
guests for example, is becoming a problem. I had 3 people in the last 2 weeks 
ask for this feature and I don’t disagree with them. Come on guys, we’ve been 
asking for this for 5 years. It’s time. 

Rory Conaway 
Triad Wireless 
4226 S. 37th Street 
Phoenix, Az. 85040 
602-426-0542 
r...@triadwireless.net 
www.triadwireless.net 

“Mediocrity finds safety in standardization. -- Frederick Crane” 



/blockquote

Re: [AFMUG] It's time for a second SSID on the Air Routers and Air Gateways.

2014-12-31 Thread That One Guy via Af

UBNT amazes me with this, Im pretty sure the multi ESSID thread is the
longest running active thread on their forum, yet they cant do it.
Users have found ways to somewhat get it to happen, but not cleanly, but
they dont have programmatic access to the device

I know this is not a complicated thing, almost every single wireless
product on the market these days supports it in some form or another.

I could see hiding behind the well, it wont work with our proprietary
wireless algorithm I can see that on the commercial side, but the home
devices? I doubt anyone on this list is turning that on on airrouters or
gateways for customers since most customers end devices arent ubiquiti
products.

I think they dont do it strictly out of spite now

On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 7:55 AM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 They'll say, We weren't aware anyone wanted that. That's what the
 vendors say when they don't want to actually tell us why they haven't done
 something.

 I haven't been too excited about multi-SSID in the macro network, but
 auto-associated and provisioned CPE would be nice.



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

 --
 *From: *Mark Radabaugh via Af af@afmug.com
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Wednesday, December 31, 2014 7:53:17 AM
 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] It's time for a second SSID on the Air Routers and
 AirGateways.


 Make that on all of the products.   Two SSID’s on the AP - a ‘install’
 SSID that the CPE can associate to by default, and a ‘sector’ SSID that we
 use to lock the CPE to the sector once it’s installed.

 What is so hard about this?   Cisco Aironet AP's could do this 15 years
 ago.

 Mark

 On Dec 31, 2014, at 8:48 AM, joseph marsh via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 +1
 On Dec 30, 2014 11:29 PM, Rory Conaway via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 As much as I’d like to stay with those devices, lack of a second SSID for
 guests for example, is becoming a problem.  I had 3 people in the last 2
 weeks ask for this feature and I don’t disagree with them.  Come on guys,
 we’ve been asking for this for 5 years.  It’s time.



 Rory Conaway
 Triad Wireless
 4226 S. 37th Street
 Phoenix, Az.  85040
 602-426-0542
 r...@triadwireless.net
 www.triadwireless.net



 “Mediocrity finds safety in standardization. -- Frederick Crane”








-- 
All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the
parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not
use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925

Re: [AFMUG] It's time for a second SSID on the Air Routers and Air Gateways.

2014-12-31 Thread Mike Hammett via Af

What kernel was Mikrotik using 10 years ago? 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

- Original Message -

From: timothy steele via Af af@afmug.com 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2014 3:12:00 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] It's time for a second SSID on the Air Routers and Air 
Gateways. 


last I heard they needed to update the Kernal to get multi SSID's to work  I 
think they did not in 5.6Beta but I'm sure they want to get 5.6 Final out fast 
as they can Multi SSID's i'm sure will get more antenntion after 5.6 final is 
out its on beta6 right now.. 


On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 10:42 AM, That One Guy via Af  af@afmug.com  wrote: 



UBNT amazes me with this, Im pretty sure the multi ESSID thread is the longest 
running active thread on their forum, yet they cant do it. 
Users have found ways to somewhat get it to happen, but not cleanly, but they 
dont have programmatic access to the device 


I know this is not a complicated thing, almost every single wireless product on 
the market these days supports it in some form or another. 


I could see hiding behind the well, it wont work with our proprietary wireless 
algorithm I can see that on the commercial side, but the home devices? I doubt 
anyone on this list is turning that on on airrouters or gateways for customers 
since most customers end devices arent ubiquiti products. 



I think they dont do it strictly out of spite now 




On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 7:55 AM, Mike Hammett via Af  af@afmug.com  wrote: 

blockquote


They'll say, We weren't aware anyone wanted that. That's what the vendors say 
when they don't want to actually tell us why they haven't done something. 

I haven't been too excited about multi-SSID in the macro network, but 
auto-associated and provisioned CPE would be nice. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 



From: Mark Radabaugh via Af  af@afmug.com  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2014 7:53:17 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] It's time for a second SSID on the Air Routers and Air 
Gateways. 




Make that on all of the products. Two SSID’s on the AP - a ‘install’ SSID that 
the CPE can associate to by default, and a ‘sector’ SSID that we use to lock 
the CPE to the sector once it’s installed. 


What is so hard about this? Cisco Aironet AP's could do this 15 years ago. 


Mark 


blockquote

On Dec 31, 2014, at 8:48 AM, joseph marsh via Af  af@afmug.com  wrote: 


+1 
On Dec 30, 2014 11:29 PM, Rory Conaway via Af  af@afmug.com  wrote: 

blockquote



As much as I’d like to stay with those devices, lack of a second SSID for 
guests for example, is becoming a problem. I had 3 people in the last 2 weeks 
ask for this feature and I don’t disagree with them. Come on guys, we’ve been 
asking for this for 5 years. It’s time. 

Rory Conaway 
Triad Wireless 
4226 S. 37th Street 
Phoenix, Az. 85040 
602-426-0542 
r...@triadwireless.net 
www.triadwireless.net 

“Mediocrity finds safety in standardization. -- Frederick Crane” 



/blockquote



/blockquote




-- 


All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts 
you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them 
together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- 
IBM maintenance manual, 1925 

/blockquote

Re: [AFMUG] It's time for a second SSID on the Air Routers and Air Gateways.

2014-12-31 Thread timothy steele via Af

somthing newer then busybox linux had?

On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 4:24 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 What kernel was Mikrotik using 10 years ago?



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

 --
 *From: *timothy steele via Af af@afmug.com
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Wednesday, December 31, 2014 3:12:00 PM

 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] It's time for a second SSID on the Air Routers and
 AirGateways.

 last I heard they needed to update the Kernal to get multi SSID's to work
  I think they did not in 5.6Beta but I'm sure they want to get 5.6 Final
 out fast as they can Multi SSID's i'm sure will get more antenntion after
 5.6 final is out its on beta6 right now..

 On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 10:42 AM, That One Guy via Af af@afmug.com
 wrote:

 UBNT amazes me with this, Im pretty sure the multi ESSID thread is the
 longest running active thread on their forum, yet they cant do it.
 Users have found ways to somewhat get it to happen, but not cleanly, but
 they dont have programmatic access to the device

 I know this is not a complicated thing, almost every single wireless
 product on the market these days supports it in some form or another.

 I could see hiding behind the well, it wont work with our proprietary
 wireless algorithm I can see that on the commercial side, but the home
 devices? I doubt anyone on this list is turning that on on airrouters or
 gateways for customers since most customers end devices arent ubiquiti
 products.

 I think they dont do it strictly out of spite now

 On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 7:55 AM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com
 wrote:

 They'll say, We weren't aware anyone wanted that. That's what the
 vendors say when they don't want to actually tell us why they haven't done
 something.

 I haven't been too excited about multi-SSID in the macro network, but
 auto-associated and provisioned CPE would be nice.



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

 --
 *From: *Mark Radabaugh via Af af@afmug.com
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Wednesday, December 31, 2014 7:53:17 AM
 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] It's time for a second SSID on the Air Routers
 and AirGateways.


 Make that on all of the products.   Two SSID’s on the AP - a ‘install’
 SSID that the CPE can associate to by default, and a ‘sector’ SSID that we
 use to lock the CPE to the sector once it’s installed.

 What is so hard about this?   Cisco Aironet AP's could do this 15 years
 ago.

 Mark

 On Dec 31, 2014, at 8:48 AM, joseph marsh via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 +1
 On Dec 30, 2014 11:29 PM, Rory Conaway via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 As much as I’d like to stay with those devices, lack of a second SSID
 for guests for example, is becoming a problem.  I had 3 people in the last
 2 weeks ask for this feature and I don’t disagree with them.  Come on guys,
 we’ve been asking for this for 5 years.  It’s time.



 Rory Conaway
 Triad Wireless
 4226 S. 37th Street
 Phoenix, Az.  85040
 602-426-0542
 r...@triadwireless.net
 www.triadwireless.net



 “Mediocrity finds safety in standardization. -- Frederick Crane”








 --
 All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the
 parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
 can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not
 use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925

Re: [AFMUG] It's time for a second SSID on the Air Routers and Air Gateways.

2014-12-31 Thread Jon Auer via Af

Busybox is just the shell/utility bundle for userland on embedded devices.
Ubiquiti is built on OpenWRT and OpenWRT has had multi-SSID for ages. UniFi
has multi-SSID so their toolchain has it/hardware supports it.
My guess would be they see AirX as part of the AirMax development process
and there's something in their custom drivers for AirMax that makes them
not want to do it.

On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 4:30 PM, timothy steele via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 somthing newer then busybox linux had?

 On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 4:24 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 What kernel was Mikrotik using 10 years ago?



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

 --
 *From: *timothy steele via Af af@afmug.com
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Wednesday, December 31, 2014 3:12:00 PM

 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] It's time for a second SSID on the Air Routers
 and AirGateways.

 last I heard they needed to update the Kernal to get multi SSID's to work
  I think they did not in 5.6Beta but I'm sure they want to get 5.6 Final
 out fast as they can Multi SSID's i'm sure will get more antenntion after
 5.6 final is out its on beta6 right now..

 On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 10:42 AM, That One Guy via Af af@afmug.com
 wrote:

 UBNT amazes me with this, Im pretty sure the multi ESSID thread is the
 longest running active thread on their forum, yet they cant do it.
 Users have found ways to somewhat get it to happen, but not cleanly, but
 they dont have programmatic access to the device

 I know this is not a complicated thing, almost every single wireless
 product on the market these days supports it in some form or another.

 I could see hiding behind the well, it wont work with our proprietary
 wireless algorithm I can see that on the commercial side, but the home
 devices? I doubt anyone on this list is turning that on on airrouters or
 gateways for customers since most customers end devices arent ubiquiti
 products.

 I think they dont do it strictly out of spite now

 On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 7:55 AM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com
 wrote:

 They'll say, We weren't aware anyone wanted that. That's what the
 vendors say when they don't want to actually tell us why they haven't done
 something.

 I haven't been too excited about multi-SSID in the macro network, but
 auto-associated and provisioned CPE would be nice.



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

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 *From: *Mark Radabaugh via Af af@afmug.com
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Wednesday, December 31, 2014 7:53:17 AM
 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] It's time for a second SSID on the Air Routers
 and AirGateways.


 Make that on all of the products.   Two SSID’s on the AP - a ‘install’
 SSID that the CPE can associate to by default, and a ‘sector’ SSID that we
 use to lock the CPE to the sector once it’s installed.

 What is so hard about this?   Cisco Aironet AP's could do this 15 years
 ago.

 Mark

 On Dec 31, 2014, at 8:48 AM, joseph marsh via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 +1
 On Dec 30, 2014 11:29 PM, Rory Conaway via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 As much as I’d like to stay with those devices, lack of a second SSID
 for guests for example, is becoming a problem.  I had 3 people in the last
 2 weeks ask for this feature and I don’t disagree with them.  Come on 
 guys,
 we’ve been asking for this for 5 years.  It’s time.



 Rory Conaway
 Triad Wireless
 4226 S. 37th Street
 Phoenix, Az.  85040
 602-426-0542
 r...@triadwireless.net
 www.triadwireless.net



 “Mediocrity finds safety in standardization. -- Frederick Crane”








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 can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not
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[AFMUG] It's time for a second SSID on the Air Routers and Air Gateways.

2014-12-30 Thread Rory Conaway via Af

As much as I'd like to stay with those devices, lack of a second SSID
for guests for example, is becoming a problem.  I had 3 people in the
last 2 weeks ask for this feature and I don't disagree with them.  Come
on guys, we've been asking for this for 5 years.  It's time.

 

Rory Conaway
Triad Wireless
4226 S. 37th Street
Phoenix, Az.  85040
602-426-0542
r...@triadwireless.net
www.triadwireless.net

 

Mediocrity finds safety in standardization. -- Frederick Crane

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