Re: [AFMUG] Power Alternatives
I would say ginos situation exceeds pinch at this point. Alternative option have to exclude shipped items. Stolen generators and fuel is happening for the next 6 months minimum. Shipping will free up a little better by the end of next week as dock storage can be moved as more drivers and fuel become available. Traversal paths are opening up but not like we envision. I did just make a salt cell out of ductworks and copper wire with regular table salt. Puts out just under a volt at .01 amp. Thats with crummy material and a low quality electrolyte. (I heard dodge neon transmissions have sodium in them) On Sep 29, 2017 4:48 PM, wrote: > Low power output and it really gunks up your engine unless you do > extensive filtering. > But in a pinch, heck yes it will work. > > *From:* Steve Jones > *Sent:* Friday, September 29, 2017 3:45 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Power Alternatives > > If you can secure your generator from theft, woodgas is a viable fuel > alternative > > On Sep 29, 2017 7:32 AM, "Dave" wrote: > >> Dilithium Crystals :) >> >> >> On 09/28/2017 08:39 PM, Gino A. Villarini wrote: >> >> Diesel Supply is short, Gens and batts are being stolen at sites, I need >> alternatives! Fuel Cells?� >> >> � >> >> *Gino A. Villarini* >> President >> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 >> >> >> -- >> >
Re: [AFMUG] Power Alternatives
I sent this to Gino offline but ya'll might want to check him out. I think I learned about him from another local WISP here... http://www.indoorgenerator.com/ I think he could custom build the heck out of something for GIno - Original Message - From: ch...@wbmfg.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, September 29, 2017 4:48 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Power Alternatives Low power output and it really gunks up your engine unless you do extensive filtering. But in a pinch, heck yes it will work. From: Steve Jones Sent: Friday, September 29, 2017 3:45 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Power Alternatives If you can secure your generator from theft, woodgas is a viable fuel alternative On Sep 29, 2017 7:32 AM, "Dave" wrote: Dilithium Crystals :) On 09/28/2017 08:39 PM, Gino A. Villarini wrote: Diesel Supply is short, Gens and batts are being stolen at sites, I need alternatives! Fuel Cells?� � Gino A. Villarini President Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 --
Re: [AFMUG] Power Alternatives
Low power output and it really gunks up your engine unless you do extensive filtering. But in a pinch, heck yes it will work. From: Steve Jones Sent: Friday, September 29, 2017 3:45 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Power Alternatives If you can secure your generator from theft, woodgas is a viable fuel alternative On Sep 29, 2017 7:32 AM, "Dave" wrote: Dilithium Crystals :) On 09/28/2017 08:39 PM, Gino A. Villarini wrote: Diesel Supply is short, Gens and batts are being stolen at sites, I need alternatives! Fuel Cells?� � Gino A. Villarini President Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 --
Re: [AFMUG] Power Alternatives
If you can secure your generator from theft, woodgas is a viable fuel alternative On Sep 29, 2017 7:32 AM, "Dave" wrote: > Dilithium Crystals :) > > > On 09/28/2017 08:39 PM, Gino A. Villarini wrote: > > Diesel Supply is short, Gens and batts are being stolen at sites, I need > alternatives! Fuel Cells?� > > � > > *Gino A. Villarini* > President > Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 > > > -- >
Re: [AFMUG] Power Alternatives
Dilithium Crystals :) On 09/28/2017 08:39 PM, Gino A. Villarini wrote: Diesel Supply is short, Gens and batts are being stolen at sites, I need alternatives! Fuel Cells? *//* */Gino A. Villarini/* President Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 --
Re: [AFMUG] Power Alternatives
Can someone design you a quick to deploy solar power system w battery? You'd need a system to protect it from theft too Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone - Reply message - From: "Gino A. Villarini" To: "af@afmug.com" Subject: [AFMUG] Power Alternatives Date: Thu, Sep 28, 2017 8:39 PM Diesel Supply is short, Gens and batts are being stolen at sites, I need alternatives! Fuel Cells? Gino A. Villarini President Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
Re: [AFMUG] Power Alternatives
Tower guards also know as anti-climb shields. On Sep 28, 2017 8:12 PM, "Jason Wilson" wrote: > Pay a guy to sit at the base of the tower with a shotgun. > > On Sep 28, 2017 7:09 PM, "Jaime Solorza" > wrote: > > Solar panels on towers, batteries in enclosures on towers, windmill > generators on towers , all protected by tower guards... > > On Sep 28, 2017 8:01 PM, "Mathew Howard" wrote: > > I'd think solar panels would be a bit less likely to be stolen, since your > typical thief probably would know what to do with them, and they're > bulky... I guess they'd still take the batteries though. But that's still > not really an option until there's a way to get them on to the island > anyway. > > On Sep 28, 2017 8:45 PM, "Colin Stanners" wrote: > >> Do you have enough tower metal and a welder that you can weld together a >> thick generator "cage" and bolt that to the outside of your tower >> cabinets/sheds with one-way screws? Or (once transport works enough to get >> solar panels) do the same to make solar panel cages? >> >> >> >> On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 8:39 PM, Gino A. Villarini >> wrote: >> >>> Diesel Supply is short, Gens and batts are being stolen at sites, I need >>> alternatives! Fuel Cells? >>> >>> >>> >>> *Gino A. Villarini* >>> President >>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 >>> >>> >> > >
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http://www.wikihow.com/Make-a-Homemade-Battery the icecube tray design might be scalable with seawater, galvanized tower components from downed towers, and copper from downed lines. not sure how many cells youd need to get the wattage or how long the zinc on galvanized would be viable. Would be good busywork if youre otherwise idle while waiting on supplies On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 9:12 PM, Jason Wilson wrote: > Pay a guy to sit at the base of the tower with a shotgun. > > > On Sep 28, 2017 7:09 PM, "Jaime Solorza" > wrote: > > Solar panels on towers, batteries in enclosures on towers, windmill > generators on towers , all protected by tower guards... > > On Sep 28, 2017 8:01 PM, "Mathew Howard" wrote: > > I'd think solar panels would be a bit less likely to be stolen, since your > typical thief probably would know what to do with them, and they're > bulky... I guess they'd still take the batteries though. But that's still > not really an option until there's a way to get them on to the island > anyway. > > On Sep 28, 2017 8:45 PM, "Colin Stanners" wrote: > >> Do you have enough tower metal and a welder that you can weld together a >> thick generator "cage" and bolt that to the outside of your tower >> cabinets/sheds with one-way screws? Or (once transport works enough to get >> solar panels) do the same to make solar panel cages? >> >> >> >> On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 8:39 PM, Gino A. Villarini >> wrote: >> >>> Diesel Supply is short, Gens and batts are being stolen at sites, I need >>> alternatives! Fuel Cells? >>> >>> >>> >>> *Gino A. Villarini* >>> President >>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 >>> >>> >> > >
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Across the border on Cerro Bola where most TV, Radio , Law enforcement, WISPs and two way radio towers are located , many have armed guards in huts next to communication shelters to keep thieves from stealing gear. Several guards have killed thieves...some towers are booby trapped as well, killing tower guys... On Sep 28, 2017 8:12 PM, "Jason Wilson" wrote: Pay a guy to sit at the base of the tower with a shotgun. On Sep 28, 2017 7:09 PM, "Jaime Solorza" wrote: Solar panels on towers, batteries in enclosures on towers, windmill generators on towers , all protected by tower guards... On Sep 28, 2017 8:01 PM, "Mathew Howard" wrote: I'd think solar panels would be a bit less likely to be stolen, since your typical thief probably would know what to do with them, and they're bulky... I guess they'd still take the batteries though. But that's still not really an option until there's a way to get them on to the island anyway. On Sep 28, 2017 8:45 PM, "Colin Stanners" wrote: > Do you have enough tower metal and a welder that you can weld together a > thick generator "cage" and bolt that to the outside of your tower > cabinets/sheds with one-way screws? Or (once transport works enough to get > solar panels) do the same to make solar panel cages? > > > > On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 8:39 PM, Gino A. Villarini > wrote: > >> Diesel Supply is short, Gens and batts are being stolen at sites, I need >> alternatives! Fuel Cells? >> >> >> >> *Gino A. Villarini* >> President >> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 >> >> >
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Pay a guy to sit at the base of the tower with a shotgun. On Sep 28, 2017 7:09 PM, "Jaime Solorza" wrote: Solar panels on towers, batteries in enclosures on towers, windmill generators on towers , all protected by tower guards... On Sep 28, 2017 8:01 PM, "Mathew Howard" wrote: I'd think solar panels would be a bit less likely to be stolen, since your typical thief probably would know what to do with them, and they're bulky... I guess they'd still take the batteries though. But that's still not really an option until there's a way to get them on to the island anyway. On Sep 28, 2017 8:45 PM, "Colin Stanners" wrote: > Do you have enough tower metal and a welder that you can weld together a > thick generator "cage" and bolt that to the outside of your tower > cabinets/sheds with one-way screws? Or (once transport works enough to get > solar panels) do the same to make solar panel cages? > > > > On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 8:39 PM, Gino A. Villarini > wrote: > >> Diesel Supply is short, Gens and batts are being stolen at sites, I need >> alternatives! Fuel Cells? >> >> >> >> *Gino A. Villarini* >> President >> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 >> >> >
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Solar panels on towers, batteries in enclosures on towers, windmill generators on towers , all protected by tower guards... On Sep 28, 2017 8:01 PM, "Mathew Howard" wrote: I'd think solar panels would be a bit less likely to be stolen, since your typical thief probably would know what to do with them, and they're bulky... I guess they'd still take the batteries though. But that's still not really an option until there's a way to get them on to the island anyway. On Sep 28, 2017 8:45 PM, "Colin Stanners" wrote: > Do you have enough tower metal and a welder that you can weld together a > thick generator "cage" and bolt that to the outside of your tower > cabinets/sheds with one-way screws? Or (once transport works enough to get > solar panels) do the same to make solar panel cages? > > > > On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 8:39 PM, Gino A. Villarini > wrote: > >> Diesel Supply is short, Gens and batts are being stolen at sites, I need >> alternatives! Fuel Cells? >> >> >> >> *Gino A. Villarini* >> President >> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 >> >> >
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if you have alot of potatoes zinc and copper you can make power. that example isnt probably realistic, but im guessing some folks here could come up with some 5 gallon bucket chemical batteries. guys arent likely to walk off with buckets of chemicals On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 9:01 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: > I'd think solar panels would be a bit less likely to be stolen, since your > typical thief probably would know what to do with them, and they're > bulky... I guess they'd still take the batteries though. But that's still > not really an option until there's a way to get them on to the island > anyway. > > On Sep 28, 2017 8:45 PM, "Colin Stanners" wrote: > >> Do you have enough tower metal and a welder that you can weld together a >> thick generator "cage" and bolt that to the outside of your tower >> cabinets/sheds with one-way screws? Or (once transport works enough to get >> solar panels) do the same to make solar panel cages? >> >> >> >> On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 8:39 PM, Gino A. Villarini >> wrote: >> >>> Diesel Supply is short, Gens and batts are being stolen at sites, I need >>> alternatives! Fuel Cells? >>> >>> >>> >>> *Gino A. Villarini* >>> President >>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 >>> >>> >>
Re: [AFMUG] Power Alternatives
I'd think solar panels would be a bit less likely to be stolen, since your typical thief probably would know what to do with them, and they're bulky... I guess they'd still take the batteries though. But that's still not really an option until there's a way to get them on to the island anyway. On Sep 28, 2017 8:45 PM, "Colin Stanners" wrote: > Do you have enough tower metal and a welder that you can weld together a > thick generator "cage" and bolt that to the outside of your tower > cabinets/sheds with one-way screws? Or (once transport works enough to get > solar panels) do the same to make solar panel cages? > > > > On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 8:39 PM, Gino A. Villarini > wrote: > >> Diesel Supply is short, Gens and batts are being stolen at sites, I need >> alternatives! Fuel Cells? >> >> >> >> *Gino A. Villarini* >> President >> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 >> >> >
Re: [AFMUG] Power Alternatives
Do you have enough tower metal and a welder that you can weld together a thick generator "cage" and bolt that to the outside of your tower cabinets/sheds with one-way screws? Or (once transport works enough to get solar panels) do the same to make solar panel cages? On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 8:39 PM, Gino A. Villarini wrote: > Diesel Supply is short, Gens and batts are being stolen at sites, I need > alternatives! Fuel Cells? > > > > *Gino A. Villarini* > President > Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 > >
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On 9/28/17 18:39, Gino A. Villarini wrote: Diesel Supply is short, Gens and batts are being stolen at sites, I need alternatives! Fuel Cells? Give someone a pointy stick to hang out and let them charge their tablet/laptop/phone? ~Seth
[AFMUG] Power Alternatives
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