Re: [AFMUG] Revisiting Backup LTE service - devices

[Darin Steffl]

Customers are spoiled nowadays with many of our users doing 25-40 GB of
usage per DAY. So if they were paying $10/GB, their cellular bill after one
day would be $250 to $400 per day based on their usage on our unlimited
plans with fixed wireless today.

Some want to complain if they are down a couple hours and ask for a free
month credit when I'd really like to reply to them that they'll receive a 4
hour credit on their $68 bill which comes out to $0.38 for their 4 hours of
downtime. Most people don't actually NEED a backup service and if they do,
they should learn how to use their mobile hotspot on Verizon or AT which
includes 15GB of usage every month which is plenty for work, checking
email, etc. If won't fulfill their WANTS like video streaming, gaming,
downloads, etc. and that's what they seem to care about the most.

On Mon, May 14, 2018 at 9:19 PM, Jon Lee  wrote:

> You can take a look at Project Fi (Google) $10 per Gig and they will give
> you 10 SIM cards for free. They use several different carriers for service.
>
> Just my ¢2 and that's about what it's worth.
>
> -Jon
>
> On Mon, May 14, 2018, 2:02 PM Paul McCall  wrote:
>
>> We want to start offering our rural customers an LTE option as an on
>> demand backup service.
>>
>>
>>
>> I know Ting is commonly used, although it looks like $ 10 / GB is their
>> cost.  Seems a little high.
>>
>>
>>
>> Verizon has some interesting plans once you talk to the right people, and
>> their JetPack device is FREE through the end of the month.
>>
>>
>>
>> What are you guys using?  Can you share details please?
>>
>>
>>
>> Paul
>>
>>
>>
>> Paul McCall, President
>>
>> PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.
>>
>> 658 Old Dixie Highway
>> 
>>
>> Vero Beach, FL 32962
>> 
>>
>> 772
>> -564-6800
>>
>>
>> pa...@pdmnet.net
>>
>> www.pdmnet.com
>>
>> www.floridabroadband.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>


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Re: [AFMUG] Revisiting Backup LTE service - devices

[Jon Lee]

You can take a look at Project Fi (Google) $10 per Gig and they will give
you 10 SIM cards for free. They use several different carriers for service.

Just my ¢2 and that's about what it's worth.

-Jon

On Mon, May 14, 2018, 2:02 PM Paul McCall  wrote:

> We want to start offering our rural customers an LTE option as an on
> demand backup service.
>
>
>
> I know Ting is commonly used, although it looks like $ 10 / GB is their
> cost.  Seems a little high.
>
>
>
> Verizon has some interesting plans once you talk to the right people, and
> their JetPack device is FREE through the end of the month.
>
>
>
> What are you guys using?  Can you share details please?
>
>
>
> Paul
>
>
>
> Paul McCall, President
>
> PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.
>
> 658 Old Dixie Highway
>
> Vero Beach, FL 32962
>
> 772-564-6800
>
> pa...@pdmnet.net
>
> www.pdmnet.com
>
> www.floridabroadband.com
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Revisiting Backup LTE service - devices

[Colin Stanners]

I don't think it's worth it.

Small-package customers won't pay enough for a cellular backup (considering
the costs if some of them do 5-20GB of Netflix over the weekend). For
larger package customers it's usually cheaper for you to install a
redundant link to a second tower or even pay a competitor for backup
service instead of going cellular.





On Mon, May 14, 2018, 4:29 PM Paul McCall <pa...@pdmnet.net> wrote:

> Looking for a 4g LTE solution that won’t kill me if several customers on a
> tower (that have the devices) start using it over a weekend while the tower
> is down.
>
>
>
> These 2 look to be suitable for tower mgmt., but not necessarily a
> customer option (redundancy) at scale
>
>
>
> *From:* Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *TJ Trout
> *Sent:* Monday, May 14, 2018 5:10 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Revisiting Backup LTE service - devices
>
>
>
> twilio or hologram.io might fit the bill, mikrotik w/ lte dongle or a
> netgear dual wan LTE router is the way to go for seemless failover
>
>
>
> On Mon, May 14, 2018 at 2:02 PM, Paul McCall <pa...@pdmnet.net> wrote:
>
> We want to start offering our rural customers an LTE option as an on
> demand backup service.
>
>
>
> I know Ting is commonly used, although it looks like $ 10 / GB is their
> cost.  Seems a little high.
>
>
>
> Verizon has some interesting plans once you talk to the right people, and
> their JetPack device is FREE through the end of the month.
>
>
>
> What are you guys using?  Can you share details please?
>
>
>
> Paul
>
>
>
> Paul McCall, President
>
> PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.
>
> 658 Old Dixie Highway
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=658+Old+Dixie+Highway+%0D%0A+Vero+Beach,+FL+32962+%0D%0A+772=gmail=g>
>
> Vero Beach, FL 32962
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=658+Old+Dixie+Highway+%0D%0A+Vero+Beach,+FL+32962+%0D%0A+772=gmail=g>
>
> 772
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=658+Old+Dixie+Highway+%0D%0A+Vero+Beach,+FL+32962+%0D%0A+772=gmail=g>-564-6800
>
>
> pa...@pdmnet.net
>
> www.pdmnet.com
>
> www.floridabroadband.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Revisiting Backup LTE service - devices

[TJ Trout]

I would guess that $10/GB is the best you will do unless you want to roll
it out to 10,000 customers then you might have better buying power with one
of the carriers...

On Mon, May 14, 2018 at 3:32 PM, TJ Trout <t...@voltbb.com> wrote:

> Yeah, you want affordable cellular data in bulk, which doesn't exist.
>
> On Mon, May 14, 2018 at 2:29 PM, Paul McCall <pa...@pdmnet.net> wrote:
>
>> Looking for a 4g LTE solution that won’t kill me if several customers on
>> a tower (that have the devices) start using it over a weekend while the
>> tower is down.
>>
>>
>>
>> These 2 look to be suitable for tower mgmt., but not necessarily a
>> customer option (redundancy) at scale
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *TJ Trout
>> *Sent:* Monday, May 14, 2018 5:10 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Revisiting Backup LTE service - devices
>>
>>
>>
>> twilio or hologram.io might fit the bill, mikrotik w/ lte dongle or a
>> netgear dual wan LTE router is the way to go for seemless failover
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, May 14, 2018 at 2:02 PM, Paul McCall <pa...@pdmnet.net> wrote:
>>
>> We want to start offering our rural customers an LTE option as an on
>> demand backup service.
>>
>>
>>
>> I know Ting is commonly used, although it looks like $ 10 / GB is their
>> cost.  Seems a little high.
>>
>>
>>
>> Verizon has some interesting plans once you talk to the right people, and
>> their JetPack device is FREE through the end of the month.
>>
>>
>>
>> What are you guys using?  Can you share details please?
>>
>>
>>
>> Paul
>>
>>
>>
>> Paul McCall, President
>>
>> PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.
>>
>> 658 Old Dixie Highway
>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=658+Old+Dixie+Highway+%0D%0A+Vero+Beach,+FL+32962+%0D%0A+772=gmail=g>
>>
>> Vero Beach, FL 32962
>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=658+Old+Dixie+Highway+%0D%0A+Vero+Beach,+FL+32962+%0D%0A+772=gmail=g>
>>
>> 772
>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=658+Old+Dixie+Highway+%0D%0A+Vero+Beach,+FL+32962+%0D%0A+772=gmail=g>-564-6800
>>
>>
>> pa...@pdmnet.net
>>
>> www.pdmnet.com
>>
>> www.floridabroadband.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Revisiting Backup LTE service - devices

[TJ Trout]

Yeah, you want affordable cellular data in bulk, which doesn't exist.

On Mon, May 14, 2018 at 2:29 PM, Paul McCall <pa...@pdmnet.net> wrote:

> Looking for a 4g LTE solution that won’t kill me if several customers on a
> tower (that have the devices) start using it over a weekend while the tower
> is down.
>
>
>
> These 2 look to be suitable for tower mgmt., but not necessarily a
> customer option (redundancy) at scale
>
>
>
> *From:* Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *TJ Trout
> *Sent:* Monday, May 14, 2018 5:10 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Revisiting Backup LTE service - devices
>
>
>
> twilio or hologram.io might fit the bill, mikrotik w/ lte dongle or a
> netgear dual wan LTE router is the way to go for seemless failover
>
>
>
> On Mon, May 14, 2018 at 2:02 PM, Paul McCall <pa...@pdmnet.net> wrote:
>
> We want to start offering our rural customers an LTE option as an on
> demand backup service.
>
>
>
> I know Ting is commonly used, although it looks like $ 10 / GB is their
> cost.  Seems a little high.
>
>
>
> Verizon has some interesting plans once you talk to the right people, and
> their JetPack device is FREE through the end of the month.
>
>
>
> What are you guys using?  Can you share details please?
>
>
>
> Paul
>
>
>
> Paul McCall, President
>
> PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.
>
> 658 Old Dixie Highway
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=658+Old+Dixie+Highway+%0D%0A+Vero+Beach,+FL+32962+%0D%0A+772=gmail=g>
>
> Vero Beach, FL 32962
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=658+Old+Dixie+Highway+%0D%0A+Vero+Beach,+FL+32962+%0D%0A+772=gmail=g>
>
> 772
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=658+Old+Dixie+Highway+%0D%0A+Vero+Beach,+FL+32962+%0D%0A+772=gmail=g>-564-6800
>
>
> pa...@pdmnet.net
>
> www.pdmnet.com
>
> www.floridabroadband.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Revisiting Backup LTE service - devices

[Paul McCall]

Looking for a 4g LTE solution that won’t kill me if several customers on a 
tower (that have the devices) start using it over a weekend while the tower is 
down.

These 2 look to be suitable for tower mgmt., but not necessarily a customer 
option (redundancy) at scale

From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> On Behalf Of TJ Trout
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2018 5:10 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Revisiting Backup LTE service - devices

twilio or hologram.io<http://hologram.io> might fit the bill, mikrotik w/ lte 
dongle or a netgear dual wan LTE router is the way to go for seemless failover

On Mon, May 14, 2018 at 2:02 PM, Paul McCall 
<pa...@pdmnet.net<mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net>> wrote:
We want to start offering our rural customers an LTE option as an on demand 
backup service.

I know Ting is commonly used, although it looks like $ 10 / GB is their cost.  
Seems a little high.

Verizon has some interesting plans once you talk to the right people, and their 
JetPack device is FREE through the end of the month.

What are you guys using?  Can you share details please?

Paul

Paul McCall, President
PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.
658 Old Dixie 
Highway<https://maps.google.com/?q=658+Old+Dixie+Highway+%0D%0A+Vero+Beach,+FL+32962+%0D%0A+772=gmail=g>
Vero Beach, FL 
32962<https://maps.google.com/?q=658+Old+Dixie+Highway+%0D%0A+Vero+Beach,+FL+32962+%0D%0A+772=gmail=g>
772<https://maps.google.com/?q=658+Old+Dixie+Highway+%0D%0A+Vero+Beach,+FL+32962+%0D%0A+772=gmail=g>-564-6800
pa...@pdmnet.net<mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net>
www.pdmnet.com<http://www.pdmnet.com>
www.floridabroadband.com<http://www.floridabroadband.com>

Re: [AFMUG] Revisiting Backup LTE service - devices

[TJ Trout]

twilio or hologram.io might fit the bill, mikrotik w/ lte dongle or a
netgear dual wan LTE router is the way to go for seemless failover

On Mon, May 14, 2018 at 2:02 PM, Paul McCall  wrote:

> We want to start offering our rural customers an LTE option as an on
> demand backup service.
>
>
>
> I know Ting is commonly used, although it looks like $ 10 / GB is their
> cost.  Seems a little high.
>
>
>
> Verizon has some interesting plans once you talk to the right people, and
> their JetPack device is FREE through the end of the month.
>
>
>
> What are you guys using?  Can you share details please?
>
>
>
> Paul
>
>
>
> Paul McCall, President
>
> PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.
>
> 658 Old Dixie Highway
> 
>
> Vero Beach, FL 32962
> 
>
> 772
> -564-6800
>
>
> pa...@pdmnet.net
>
> www.pdmnet.com
>
> www.floridabroadband.com
>
>
>
>
>

[AFMUG] Revisiting Backup LTE service - devices

[Paul McCall]

We want to start offering our rural customers an LTE option as an on demand 
backup service.

I know Ting is commonly used, although it looks like $ 10 / GB is their cost.  
Seems a little high.

Verizon has some interesting plans once you talk to the right people, and their 
JetPack device is FREE through the end of the month.

What are you guys using?  Can you share details please?

Paul

Paul McCall, President
PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.
658 Old Dixie Highway
Vero Beach, FL 32962
772-564-6800
pa...@pdmnet.net
www.pdmnet.com
www.floridabroadband.com