Re: [AFMUG] Used procera

[Josh Luthman]

Powercode.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 11:33 AM, Tushar Patel <tpa...@ecpi.com> wrote:

> We are considering procera, any reseller suggestion?
>
> Tushar
>
>
> On Dec 10, 2015, at 9:28 AM, Chuck Hogg <ch...@shelbybb.com> wrote:
>
> We have gigs more capacity than we use.  The Procera is much more than
> that.
>
> So many tools...We use it as a tool to identify usage, so that users can
> be told how their connection is being used when they say they are not using
> itbandwidth shaping for 900MHz AP's...network diagnostics for
> VoIP...and many more.  Support loves it, begs for it, and uses it on most
> bandwidth complaint calls.
>
> Regards,
> Chuck
>
> On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 12:01 PM, Stefan Englhardt <s...@genias.net> wrote:
>
>> This is why I try to solve bandwidth problems with throwing more
>> bandwidth in.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Von:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im Auftrag von *Chuck Hogg
>> *Gesendet:* Dienstag, 8. Dezember 2015 17:49
>> *An:* af@afmug.com
>> *Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] Used procera
>>
>>
>>
>> Example, our Procera licensing lapsed, I just paid the full price to get
>> us current, even though we will only be getting <6mths of support.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Chuck
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 6, 2015 at 1:14 PM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Same with Barracuda basically.
>>
>> Rory
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Simon Westlake
>> Sent: Sunday, December 6, 2015 7:51 AM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Used procera
>>
>> I would not buy a 7720. If it's not listed on Procera's website under
>> 'Products', it's EOL and they may not even license it anymore. Without
>> licensing, it's essentially worthless.
>>
>> What I would do is contact a Procera reseller first, let them know what
>> you're looking at, and they can generate a quote for you to license/support
>> it. It may be cheaper than buying a new one if it's an expensive chassis,
>> but I doubt you would save much in this particular case, and you may end up
>> with an unusable chassis.
>>
>> On 12/5/2015 9:48 PM, TJ Trout wrote:
>> >
>> > What are the cons of buying a used procera?
>> >
>> > http://m.ebay.com/itm/PacketLogic-Procera-PL7720-IPE-DPI-Appliance-Pac
>> > ket-Shaper-Deep-packet-inspect-/301749867874?nav=SEARCH
>> >
>>
>> --
>> Simon Westlake
>> Skype: Simon_Sonar
>> Email: simon@sonar.software
>> Phone: (702) 447-1247
>> ---
>> Sonar Software Inc
>> The next generation of ISP billing and OSS https://sonar.software
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Used procera

[Darren Shea]

Isn’t most of the appeal of a Crock-Pot/Slow Cooker the fact you do NOT need to 
micro-manage it? I put in the pot roast and veggies (or a batch of chili, or a 
pork shoulder), turn the thing on and let it do its thing for 4-6 hours, and I 
have yummy food.

 

I don’t want an SNMP-enabled Crock-Pot I have to monitor on MRTG!

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2015 9:50 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Used procera

 

my slow cooker has a 2.4 GHz single chain 802.11n radio in it

http://www.amazon.com/Crock-Pot-Wifi-Enabled-6-Quart-Cooker-SCCPWM600-V1/dp/B00IPEO02C

http://www.crock-pot.ca/en_CA/slow-cookers/crock-pot-wemo-enabled-smart-slow-cooker/SCCPWM600-V1.html

 

On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 7:46 AM, Darren Shea <darr...@ecpi.com> wrote:

Oh, YES – this.

 

Photo Sharing and iCloud Backup on phones and Macs, Windows Update, a 
BitTorrent share of the latest Game of Thrones episode, a sullen teenager 
hiding in a closet watching Netflix, Dad furiously trying to top his high score 
on that speedtest.net “game” – all of these use bandwidth, whether or not you 
know they’re active. This seems to be a good 60%+ of our support calls these 
days

 

Also…

 

Remember: On the internet, no one knows you’re a dog.

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2015 9:56 AM


To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Used procera

 

Haha, my new favorite thing customers say:  “But I’m not even on my phone”

 

Sorry, customer, the OS and apps are running, and your device is using your 
Internet without you.  Not to mention your Roku, satellite receiver, smart TV, 
Dropcam, garage door opener, sump pump, refrigerator, light bulbs, and probably 
your pets.

 

 

From: Chuck Hogg <mailto:ch...@shelbybb.com>  

Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2015 9:28 AM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Used procera

 

We have gigs more capacity than we use.  The Procera is much more than that.   

 

So many tools...We use it as a tool to identify usage, so that users can be 
told how their connection is being used when they say they are not using 
itbandwidth shaping for 900MHz AP's...network diagnostics for VoIP...and 
many more.  Support loves it, begs for it, and uses it on most bandwidth 
complaint calls.

 

Regards,
Chuck

 

On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 12:01 PM, Stefan Englhardt <s...@genias.net> wrote:

This is why I try to solve bandwidth problems with throwing more bandwidth in.

 

 

Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Chuck Hogg
Gesendet: Dienstag, 8. Dezember 2015 17:49
An: af@afmug.com
Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Used procera

 

Example, our Procera licensing lapsed, I just paid the full price to get us 
current, even though we will only be getting <6mths of support.




Regards,
Chuck

 

On Sun, Dec 6, 2015 at 1:14 PM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote:

Same with Barracuda basically.

Rory


-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Simon Westlake
Sent: Sunday, December 6, 2015 7:51 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Used procera

I would not buy a 7720. If it's not listed on Procera's website under 
'Products', it's EOL and they may not even license it anymore. Without 
licensing, it's essentially worthless.

What I would do is contact a Procera reseller first, let them know what you're 
looking at, and they can generate a quote for you to license/support it. It may 
be cheaper than buying a new one if it's an expensive chassis, but I doubt you 
would save much in this particular case, and you may end up with an unusable 
chassis.

On 12/5/2015 9:48 PM, TJ Trout wrote:
>
> What are the cons of buying a used procera?
>
> http://m.ebay.com/itm/PacketLogic-Procera-PL7720-IPE-DPI-Appliance-Pac
> ket-Shaper-Deep-packet-inspect-/301749867874?nav=SEARCH
>

--
Simon Westlake
Skype: Simon_Sonar
Email: simon@sonar.software
Phone: (702) 447-1247 <tel:%28702%29%20447-1247> 
---
Sonar Software Inc
The next generation of ISP billing and OSS https://sonar.software

 

 

 

Re: [AFMUG] Used procera

[Tushar Patel]

We are considering procera, any reseller suggestion?

Tushar


> On Dec 10, 2015, at 9:28 AM, Chuck Hogg <ch...@shelbybb.com> wrote:
> 
> We have gigs more capacity than we use.  The Procera is much more than that.  
> 
> So many tools...We use it as a tool to identify usage, so that users can be 
> told how their connection is being used when they say they are not using 
> itbandwidth shaping for 900MHz AP's...network diagnostics for VoIP...and 
> many more.  Support loves it, begs for it, and uses it on most bandwidth 
> complaint calls.
> 
> Regards,
> Chuck
> 
>> On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 12:01 PM, Stefan Englhardt <s...@genias.net> wrote:
>> This is why I try to solve bandwidth problems with throwing more bandwidth 
>> in.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Chuck Hogg
>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 8. Dezember 2015 17:49
>> An: af@afmug.com
>> Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Used procera
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Example, our Procera licensing lapsed, I just paid the full price to get us 
>> current, even though we will only be getting <6mths of support.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Chuck
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Sun, Dec 6, 2015 at 1:14 PM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Same with Barracuda basically.
>> 
>> Rory
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Simon Westlake
>> Sent: Sunday, December 6, 2015 7:51 AM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Used procera
>> 
>> I would not buy a 7720. If it's not listed on Procera's website under 
>> 'Products', it's EOL and they may not even license it anymore. Without 
>> licensing, it's essentially worthless.
>> 
>> What I would do is contact a Procera reseller first, let them know what 
>> you're looking at, and they can generate a quote for you to license/support 
>> it. It may be cheaper than buying a new one if it's an expensive chassis, 
>> but I doubt you would save much in this particular case, and you may end up 
>> with an unusable chassis.
>> 
>> On 12/5/2015 9:48 PM, TJ Trout wrote:
>> >
>> > What are the cons of buying a used procera?
>> >
>> > http://m.ebay.com/itm/PacketLogic-Procera-PL7720-IPE-DPI-Appliance-Pac
>> > ket-Shaper-Deep-packet-inspect-/301749867874?nav=SEARCH
>> >
>> 
>> --
>> Simon Westlake
>> Skype: Simon_Sonar
>> Email: simon@sonar.software
>> Phone: (702) 447-1247
>> ---
>> Sonar Software Inc
>> The next generation of ISP billing and OSS https://sonar.software
>> 
> 

Re: [AFMUG] Used procera

[Tushar Patel]

We don't use Powercod so I wanted to find somebody who is not biased toward 
powercode for integration.

Tushar


> On Dec 11, 2015, at 10:39 AM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Powercode.
> 
> 
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> 
>> On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 11:33 AM, Tushar Patel <tpa...@ecpi.com> wrote:
>> We are considering procera, any reseller suggestion?
>> 
>> Tushar
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 10, 2015, at 9:28 AM, Chuck Hogg <ch...@shelbybb.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> We have gigs more capacity than we use.  The Procera is much more than 
>>> that.  
>>> 
>>> So many tools...We use it as a tool to identify usage, so that users can be 
>>> told how their connection is being used when they say they are not using 
>>> itbandwidth shaping for 900MHz AP's...network diagnostics for 
>>> VoIP...and many more.  Support loves it, begs for it, and uses it on most 
>>> bandwidth complaint calls.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Chuck
>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 12:01 PM, Stefan Englhardt <s...@genias.net> wrote:
>>>> This is why I try to solve bandwidth problems with throwing more bandwidth 
>>>> in.
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Chuck Hogg
>>>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 8. Dezember 2015 17:49
>>>> An: af@afmug.com
>>>> Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Used procera
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> Example, our Procera licensing lapsed, I just paid the full price to get 
>>>> us current, even though we will only be getting <6mths of support.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Chuck
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> On Sun, Dec 6, 2015 at 1:14 PM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Same with Barracuda basically.
>>>> 
>>>> Rory
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Simon Westlake
>>>> Sent: Sunday, December 6, 2015 7:51 AM
>>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Used procera
>>>> 
>>>> I would not buy a 7720. If it's not listed on Procera's website under 
>>>> 'Products', it's EOL and they may not even license it anymore. Without 
>>>> licensing, it's essentially worthless.
>>>> 
>>>> What I would do is contact a Procera reseller first, let them know what 
>>>> you're looking at, and they can generate a quote for you to 
>>>> license/support it. It may be cheaper than buying a new one if it's an 
>>>> expensive chassis, but I doubt you would save much in this particular 
>>>> case, and you may end up with an unusable chassis.
>>>> 
>>>> On 12/5/2015 9:48 PM, TJ Trout wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > What are the cons of buying a used procera?
>>>> >
>>>> > http://m.ebay.com/itm/PacketLogic-Procera-PL7720-IPE-DPI-Appliance-Pac
>>>> > ket-Shaper-Deep-packet-inspect-/301749867874?nav=SEARCH
>>>> >
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> Simon Westlake
>>>> Skype: Simon_Sonar
>>>> Email: simon@sonar.software
>>>> Phone: (702) 447-1247
>>>> ---
>>>> Sonar Software Inc
>>>> The next generation of ISP billing and OSS https://sonar.software
>>>> 
> 

Re: [AFMUG] Used procera

[Josh Luthman]

Talk to Procera on what you need and then buy it through Powercode for the
best price...


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 11:44 AM, Tushar Patel <tpa...@ecpi.com> wrote:

> We don't use Powercod so I wanted to find somebody who is not biased
> toward powercode for integration.
>
> Tushar
>
>
> On Dec 11, 2015, at 10:39 AM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> wrote:
>
> Powercode.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 11:33 AM, Tushar Patel <tpa...@ecpi.com> wrote:
>
>> We are considering procera, any reseller suggestion?
>>
>> Tushar
>>
>>
>> On Dec 10, 2015, at 9:28 AM, Chuck Hogg <ch...@shelbybb.com> wrote:
>>
>> We have gigs more capacity than we use.  The Procera is much more than
>> that.
>>
>> So many tools...We use it as a tool to identify usage, so that users can
>> be told how their connection is being used when they say they are not using
>> itbandwidth shaping for 900MHz AP's...network diagnostics for
>> VoIP...and many more.  Support loves it, begs for it, and uses it on most
>> bandwidth complaint calls.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Chuck
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 12:01 PM, Stefan Englhardt <s...@genias.net> wrote:
>>
>>> This is why I try to solve bandwidth problems with throwing more
>>> bandwidth in.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Von:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im Auftrag von *Chuck Hogg
>>> *Gesendet:* Dienstag, 8. Dezember 2015 17:49
>>> *An:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] Used procera
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Example, our Procera licensing lapsed, I just paid the full price to get
>>> us current, even though we will only be getting <6mths of support.
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Chuck
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Dec 6, 2015 at 1:14 PM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Same with Barracuda basically.
>>>
>>> Rory
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Simon Westlake
>>> Sent: Sunday, December 6, 2015 7:51 AM
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Used procera
>>>
>>> I would not buy a 7720. If it's not listed on Procera's website under
>>> 'Products', it's EOL and they may not even license it anymore. Without
>>> licensing, it's essentially worthless.
>>>
>>> What I would do is contact a Procera reseller first, let them know what
>>> you're looking at, and they can generate a quote for you to license/support
>>> it. It may be cheaper than buying a new one if it's an expensive chassis,
>>> but I doubt you would save much in this particular case, and you may end up
>>> with an unusable chassis.
>>>
>>> On 12/5/2015 9:48 PM, TJ Trout wrote:
>>> >
>>> > What are the cons of buying a used procera?
>>> >
>>> > http://m.ebay.com/itm/PacketLogic-Procera-PL7720-IPE-DPI-Appliance-Pac
>>> > ket-Shaper-Deep-packet-inspect-/301749867874?nav=SEARCH
>>> >
>>>
>>> --
>>> Simon Westlake
>>> Skype: Simon_Sonar
>>> Email: simon@sonar.software
>>> Phone: (702) 447-1247
>>> ---
>>> Sonar Software Inc
>>> The next generation of ISP billing and OSS https://sonar.software
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Used procera

[Eric Kuhnke]

my slow cooker has a 2.4 GHz single chain 802.11n radio in it

http://www.amazon.com/Crock-Pot-Wifi-Enabled-6-Quart-Cooker-SCCPWM600-V1/dp/B00IPEO02C

http://www.crock-pot.ca/en_CA/slow-cookers/crock-pot-wemo-enabled-smart-slow-cooker/SCCPWM600-V1.html


On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 7:46 AM, Darren Shea <darr...@ecpi.com> wrote:

> Oh, YES – this.
>
>
>
> Photo Sharing and iCloud Backup on phones and Macs, Windows Update, a
> BitTorrent share of the latest Game of Thrones episode, a sullen teenager
> hiding in a closet watching Netflix, Dad furiously trying to top his high
> score on that speedtest.net “game” – all of these use bandwidth, whether
> or not you know they’re active. This seems to be a good 60%+ of our support
> calls these days
>
>
>
> Also…
>
>
>
> Remember: On the internet, no one knows you’re a dog.
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 10, 2015 9:56 AM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Used procera
>
>
>
> Haha, my new favorite thing customers say:  “But I’m not even on my phone”
>
>
>
> Sorry, customer, the OS and apps are running, and your device is using
> your Internet without you.  Not to mention your Roku, satellite receiver,
> smart TV, Dropcam, garage door opener, sump pump, refrigerator, light
> bulbs, and probably your pets.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Chuck Hogg <ch...@shelbybb.com>
>
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 10, 2015 9:28 AM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Used procera
>
>
>
> We have gigs more capacity than we use.  The Procera is much more than
> that.
>
>
>
> So many tools...We use it as a tool to identify usage, so that users can
> be told how their connection is being used when they say they are not using
> itbandwidth shaping for 900MHz AP's...network diagnostics for
> VoIP...and many more.  Support loves it, begs for it, and uses it on most
> bandwidth complaint calls.
>
>
>
> Regards,
> Chuck
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 12:01 PM, Stefan Englhardt <s...@genias.net> wrote:
>
> This is why I try to solve bandwidth problems with throwing more bandwidth
> in.
>
>
>
>
>
> *Von:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im Auftrag von *Chuck Hogg
> *Gesendet:* Dienstag, 8. Dezember 2015 17:49
> *An:* af@afmug.com
> *Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] Used procera
>
>
>
> Example, our Procera licensing lapsed, I just paid the full price to get
> us current, even though we will only be getting <6mths of support.
>
>
> Regards,
> Chuck
>
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 6, 2015 at 1:14 PM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net>
> wrote:
>
> Same with Barracuda basically.
>
> Rory
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Simon Westlake
> Sent: Sunday, December 6, 2015 7:51 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Used procera
>
> I would not buy a 7720. If it's not listed on Procera's website under
> 'Products', it's EOL and they may not even license it anymore. Without
> licensing, it's essentially worthless.
>
> What I would do is contact a Procera reseller first, let them know what
> you're looking at, and they can generate a quote for you to license/support
> it. It may be cheaper than buying a new one if it's an expensive chassis,
> but I doubt you would save much in this particular case, and you may end up
> with an unusable chassis.
>
> On 12/5/2015 9:48 PM, TJ Trout wrote:
> >
> > What are the cons of buying a used procera?
> >
> > http://m.ebay.com/itm/PacketLogic-Procera-PL7720-IPE-DPI-Appliance-Pac
> > ket-Shaper-Deep-packet-inspect-/301749867874?nav=SEARCH
> >
>
> --
> Simon Westlake
> Skype: Simon_Sonar
> Email: simon@sonar.software
> Phone: (702) 447-1247
> ---
> Sonar Software Inc
> The next generation of ISP billing and OSS https://sonar.software
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Used procera

[Eric Kuhnke]

Yes, it is kind of silly. It was a gift. I'm not sure that I ever really
use its management feature for anything useful, but it is kind of fun to
see its MAC address show up on my home network.

It uses a tiny amount of bandwidth unlike a device like a dropcam.

Expect to see a lot more dropcam-like competitors in the next 3-4 years
that consume upstream bandwidth pretty much 24x7. Already several companies
like Xiaomi which has a $36 camera:

https://www.google.ca/search?client=ubuntu=fs=xiaomi+security+camera=utf-8=utf-8_rd=cr=i_NqVseDFsmV8QeazaiIDw



On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 7:58 AM, Darren Shea <darr...@ecpi.com> wrote:

> Isn’t most of the appeal of a Crock-Pot/Slow Cooker the fact you do NOT
> need to micro-manage it? I put in the pot roast and veggies (or a batch of
> chili, or a pork shoulder), turn the thing on and let it do its thing for
> 4-6 hours, and I have yummy food.
>
>
>
> I don’t want an SNMP-enabled Crock-Pot I have to monitor on MRTG!
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Eric Kuhnke
> *Sent:* Friday, December 11, 2015 9:50 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Used procera
>
>
>
> my slow cooker has a 2.4 GHz single chain 802.11n radio in it
>
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Crock-Pot-Wifi-Enabled-6-Quart-Cooker-SCCPWM600-V1/dp/B00IPEO02C
>
>
> http://www.crock-pot.ca/en_CA/slow-cookers/crock-pot-wemo-enabled-smart-slow-cooker/SCCPWM600-V1.html
>
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 7:46 AM, Darren Shea <darr...@ecpi.com> wrote:
>
> Oh, YES – this.
>
>
>
> Photo Sharing and iCloud Backup on phones and Macs, Windows Update, a
> BitTorrent share of the latest Game of Thrones episode, a sullen teenager
> hiding in a closet watching Netflix, Dad furiously trying to top his high
> score on that speedtest.net “game” – all of these use bandwidth, whether
> or not you know they’re active. This seems to be a good 60%+ of our support
> calls these days
>
>
>
> Also…
>
>
>
> Remember: On the internet, no one knows you’re a dog.
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 10, 2015 9:56 AM
>
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Used procera
>
>
>
> Haha, my new favorite thing customers say:  “But I’m not even on my phone”
>
>
>
> Sorry, customer, the OS and apps are running, and your device is using
> your Internet without you.  Not to mention your Roku, satellite receiver,
> smart TV, Dropcam, garage door opener, sump pump, refrigerator, light
> bulbs, and probably your pets.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Chuck Hogg <ch...@shelbybb.com>
>
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 10, 2015 9:28 AM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Used procera
>
>
>
> We have gigs more capacity than we use.  The Procera is much more than
> that.
>
>
>
> So many tools...We use it as a tool to identify usage, so that users can
> be told how their connection is being used when they say they are not using
> itbandwidth shaping for 900MHz AP's...network diagnostics for
> VoIP...and many more.  Support loves it, begs for it, and uses it on most
> bandwidth complaint calls.
>
>
>
> Regards,
> Chuck
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 12:01 PM, Stefan Englhardt <s...@genias.net> wrote:
>
> This is why I try to solve bandwidth problems with throwing more bandwidth
> in.
>
>
>
>
>
> *Von:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im Auftrag von *Chuck Hogg
> *Gesendet:* Dienstag, 8. Dezember 2015 17:49
> *An:* af@afmug.com
> *Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] Used procera
>
>
>
> Example, our Procera licensing lapsed, I just paid the full price to get
> us current, even though we will only be getting <6mths of support.
>
>
> Regards,
> Chuck
>
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 6, 2015 at 1:14 PM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net>
> wrote:
>
> Same with Barracuda basically.
>
> Rory
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Simon Westlake
> Sent: Sunday, December 6, 2015 7:51 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Used procera
>
> I would not buy a 7720. If it's not listed on Procera's website under
> 'Products', it's EOL and they may not even license it anymore. Without
> licensing, it's essentially worthless.
>
> What I would do is contact a Procera reseller first, let them know what
> you're looking at, and they can generate a quote for you to license/support
> it. It may be cheaper than buying a new one if it's an expensive chassis,
> but I doubt you would save much in this particular case, and you may end up
> with an unusable chassis.
>
> On 12/5/2015 9:48 PM, TJ Trout wrote:
> >
> > What are the cons of buying a used procera?
> >
> > http://m.ebay.com/itm/PacketLogic-Procera-PL7720-IPE-DPI-Appliance-Pac
> > ket-Shaper-Deep-packet-inspect-/301749867874?nav=SEARCH
> >
>
> --
> Simon Westlake
> Skype: Simon_Sonar
> Email: simon@sonar.software
> Phone: (702) 447-1247
> ---
> Sonar Software Inc
> The next generation of ISP billing and OSS https://sonar.software
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Used procera

[Chuck Hogg]

We bought through Powercode.

Regards,
Chuck

On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 11:44 AM, Tushar Patel <tpa...@ecpi.com> wrote:

> We don't use Powercod so I wanted to find somebody who is not biased
> toward powercode for integration.
>
> Tushar
>
>
> On Dec 11, 2015, at 10:39 AM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> wrote:
>
> Powercode.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 11:33 AM, Tushar Patel <tpa...@ecpi.com> wrote:
>
>> We are considering procera, any reseller suggestion?
>>
>> Tushar
>>
>>
>> On Dec 10, 2015, at 9:28 AM, Chuck Hogg <ch...@shelbybb.com> wrote:
>>
>> We have gigs more capacity than we use.  The Procera is much more than
>> that.
>>
>> So many tools...We use it as a tool to identify usage, so that users can
>> be told how their connection is being used when they say they are not using
>> itbandwidth shaping for 900MHz AP's...network diagnostics for
>> VoIP...and many more.  Support loves it, begs for it, and uses it on most
>> bandwidth complaint calls.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Chuck
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 12:01 PM, Stefan Englhardt <s...@genias.net> wrote:
>>
>>> This is why I try to solve bandwidth problems with throwing more
>>> bandwidth in.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Von:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im Auftrag von *Chuck Hogg
>>> *Gesendet:* Dienstag, 8. Dezember 2015 17:49
>>> *An:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] Used procera
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Example, our Procera licensing lapsed, I just paid the full price to get
>>> us current, even though we will only be getting <6mths of support.
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Chuck
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Dec 6, 2015 at 1:14 PM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Same with Barracuda basically.
>>>
>>> Rory
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Simon Westlake
>>> Sent: Sunday, December 6, 2015 7:51 AM
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Used procera
>>>
>>> I would not buy a 7720. If it's not listed on Procera's website under
>>> 'Products', it's EOL and they may not even license it anymore. Without
>>> licensing, it's essentially worthless.
>>>
>>> What I would do is contact a Procera reseller first, let them know what
>>> you're looking at, and they can generate a quote for you to license/support
>>> it. It may be cheaper than buying a new one if it's an expensive chassis,
>>> but I doubt you would save much in this particular case, and you may end up
>>> with an unusable chassis.
>>>
>>> On 12/5/2015 9:48 PM, TJ Trout wrote:
>>> >
>>> > What are the cons of buying a used procera?
>>> >
>>> > http://m.ebay.com/itm/PacketLogic-Procera-PL7720-IPE-DPI-Appliance-Pac
>>> > ket-Shaper-Deep-packet-inspect-/301749867874?nav=SEARCH
>>> >
>>>
>>> --
>>> Simon Westlake
>>> Skype: Simon_Sonar
>>> Email: simon@sonar.software
>>> Phone: (702) 447-1247
>>> ---
>>> Sonar Software Inc
>>> The next generation of ISP billing and OSS https://sonar.software
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Used procera

[Tyler Treat]

I hate our crockpot with the digital controls.   Doesn't turn back on if your 
power blips for a second.  terrible design and you come home to cold roast.

Sometimes analog is better.


From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuh...@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2015 10:02 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Used procera

Yes, it is kind of silly. It was a gift. I'm not sure that I ever really use 
its management feature for anything useful, but it is kind of fun to see its 
MAC address show up on my home network.

It uses a tiny amount of bandwidth unlike a device like a dropcam.

Expect to see a lot more dropcam-like competitors in the next 3-4 years that 
consume upstream bandwidth pretty much 24x7. Already several companies like 
Xiaomi which has a $36 camera:

https://www.google.ca/search?client=ubuntu=fs=xiaomi+security+camera=utf-8=utf-8_rd=cr=i_NqVseDFsmV8QeazaiIDw



On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 7:58 AM, Darren Shea 
<darr...@ecpi.com<mailto:darr...@ecpi.com>> wrote:
Isn’t most of the appeal of a Crock-Pot/Slow Cooker the fact you do NOT need to 
micro-manage it? I put in the pot roast and veggies (or a batch of chili, or a 
pork shoulder), turn the thing on and let it do its thing for 4-6 hours, and I 
have yummy food.

I don’t want an SNMP-enabled Crock-Pot I have to monitor on MRTG!

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf 
Of Eric Kuhnke
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2015 9:50 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Used procera

my slow cooker has a 2.4 GHz single chain 802.11n radio in it

http://www.amazon.com/Crock-Pot-Wifi-Enabled-6-Quart-Cooker-SCCPWM600-V1/dp/B00IPEO02C

http://www.crock-pot.ca/en_CA/slow-cookers/crock-pot-wemo-enabled-smart-slow-cooker/SCCPWM600-V1.html

On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 7:46 AM, Darren Shea 
<darr...@ecpi.com<mailto:darr...@ecpi.com>> wrote:
Oh, YES – this.

Photo Sharing and iCloud Backup on phones and Macs, Windows Update, a 
BitTorrent share of the latest Game of Thrones episode, a sullen teenager 
hiding in a closet watching Netflix, Dad furiously trying to top his high score 
on that speedtest.net<http://speedtest.net> “game” – all of these use 
bandwidth, whether or not you know they’re active. This seems to be a good 60%+ 
of our support calls these days

Also…

Remember: On the internet, no one knows you’re a dog.

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf 
Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2015 9:56 AM

To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Used procera

Haha, my new favorite thing customers say:  “But I’m not even on my phone”

Sorry, customer, the OS and apps are running, and your device is using your 
Internet without you.  Not to mention your Roku, satellite receiver, smart TV, 
Dropcam, garage door opener, sump pump, refrigerator, light bulbs, and probably 
your pets.


From: Chuck Hogg<mailto:ch...@shelbybb.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2015 9:28 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Used procera

We have gigs more capacity than we use.  The Procera is much more than that.

So many tools...We use it as a tool to identify usage, so that users can be 
told how their connection is being used when they say they are not using 
itbandwidth shaping for 900MHz AP's...network diagnostics for VoIP...and 
many more.  Support loves it, begs for it, and uses it on most bandwidth 
complaint calls.

Regards,
Chuck

On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 12:01 PM, Stefan Englhardt 
<s...@genias.net<mailto:s...@genias.net>> wrote:
This is why I try to solve bandwidth problems with throwing more bandwidth in.


Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] Im Auftrag 
von Chuck Hogg
Gesendet: Dienstag, 8. Dezember 2015 17:49
An: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Used procera

Example, our Procera licensing lapsed, I just paid the full price to get us 
current, even though we will only be getting <6mths of support.

Regards,
Chuck

On Sun, Dec 6, 2015 at 1:14 PM, Rory Conaway 
<r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> wrote:
Same with Barracuda basically.

Rory

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf 
Of Simon Westlake
Sent: Sunday, December 6, 2015 7:51 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Used procera

I would not buy a 7720. If it's not listed on Procera's website under 
'Products', it's EOL and they may not even license it anymore. Without 
licensing, it's essentially worthless.

What I would do is contact a Procera reseller first, let them know what you're 
looking at, and they can generate a quote for you to license/support it. It may 
be cheaper than buying a new one if it's an expensive

Re: [AFMUG] Used procera

[Cameron Crum]

You mean you don't have your crockpot on a ups?

On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 11:57 AM, Tyler Treat <tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com>
wrote:

>
> I hate our crockpot with the digital controls.   Doesn't turn back on if
> your power blips for a second.  terrible design and you come home to cold
> roast.
>
> Sometimes analog is better.
>
> --
> *From:* Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Eric Kuhnke <
> eric.kuh...@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, December 11, 2015 10:02 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Used procera
>
> Yes, it is kind of silly. It was a gift. I'm not sure that I ever really
> use its management feature for anything useful, but it is kind of fun to
> see its MAC address show up on my home network.
>
> It uses a tiny amount of bandwidth unlike a device like a dropcam.
>
> Expect to see a lot more dropcam-like competitors in the next 3-4 years
> that consume upstream bandwidth pretty much 24x7. Already several companies
> like Xiaomi which has a $36 camera:
>
>
> https://www.google.ca/search?client=ubuntu=fs=xiaomi+security+camera=utf-8=utf-8_rd=cr=i_NqVseDFsmV8QeazaiIDw
>
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 7:58 AM, Darren Shea <darr...@ecpi.com> wrote:
>
>> Isn’t most of the appeal of a Crock-Pot/Slow Cooker the fact you do NOT
>> need to micro-manage it? I put in the pot roast and veggies (or a batch of
>> chili, or a pork shoulder), turn the thing on and let it do its thing for
>> 4-6 hours, and I have yummy food.
>>
>>
>>
>> I don’t want an SNMP-enabled Crock-Pot I have to monitor on MRTG!
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Eric Kuhnke
>> *Sent:* Friday, December 11, 2015 9:50 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Used procera
>>
>>
>>
>> my slow cooker has a 2.4 GHz single chain 802.11n radio in it
>>
>>
>> http://www.amazon.com/Crock-Pot-Wifi-Enabled-6-Quart-Cooker-SCCPWM600-V1/dp/B00IPEO02C
>>
>>
>> http://www.crock-pot.ca/en_CA/slow-cookers/crock-pot-wemo-enabled-smart-slow-cooker/SCCPWM600-V1.html
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 7:46 AM, Darren Shea <darr...@ecpi.com> wrote:
>>
>> Oh, YES – this.
>>
>>
>>
>> Photo Sharing and iCloud Backup on phones and Macs, Windows Update, a
>> BitTorrent share of the latest Game of Thrones episode, a sullen teenager
>> hiding in a closet watching Netflix, Dad furiously trying to top his high
>> score on that speedtest.net “game” – all of these use bandwidth, whether
>> or not you know they’re active. This seems to be a good 60%+ of our support
>> calls these days
>>
>>
>>
>> Also…
>>
>>
>>
>> Remember: On the internet, no one knows you’re a dog.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof
>> *Sent:* Thursday, December 10, 2015 9:56 AM
>>
>>
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Used procera
>>
>>
>>
>> Haha, my new favorite thing customers say:  “But I’m not even on my phone”
>>
>>
>>
>> Sorry, customer, the OS and apps are running, and your device is using
>> your Internet without you.  Not to mention your Roku, satellite receiver,
>> smart TV, Dropcam, garage door opener, sump pump, refrigerator, light
>> bulbs, and probably your pets.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Chuck Hogg <ch...@shelbybb.com>
>>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, December 10, 2015 9:28 AM
>>
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Used procera
>>
>>
>>
>> We have gigs more capacity than we use.  The Procera is much more than
>> that.
>>
>>
>>
>> So many tools...We use it as a tool to identify usage, so that users can
>> be told how their connection is being used when they say they are not using
>> itbandwidth shaping for 900MHz AP's...network diagnostics for
>> VoIP...and many more.  Support loves it, begs for it, and uses it on most
>> bandwidth complaint calls.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Chuck
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 12:01 PM, Stefan Englhardt <s...@genias.net> wrote:
>>
>> This is why I try to solve bandwidth problems with throwing more
>> bandwidth in.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Von:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im Auftrag von *Chuck Hogg
>> *Gesendet:* Dienstag, 8. Dezember 2015 17:49
>> *An:* af@afmug.com
>> *Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] Used pro

Re: [AFMUG] Used procera

[chuck]

Hmmm sounds like a killer new product to be sold on late night television.  

From: Cameron Crum 
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2015 11:43 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Used procera

You mean you don't have your crockpot on a ups?

On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 11:57 AM, Tyler Treat <tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com> 
wrote:



  I hate our crockpot with the digital controls.   Doesn't turn back on if your 
power blips for a second.  terrible design and you come home to cold roast. 

  Sometimes analog is better.   



--

  From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Eric Kuhnke 
<eric.kuh...@gmail.com>
  Sent: Friday, December 11, 2015 10:02 AM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Used procera 

  Yes, it is kind of silly. It was a gift. I'm not sure that I ever really use 
its management feature for anything useful, but it is kind of fun to see its 
MAC address show up on my home network. 


  It uses a tiny amount of bandwidth unlike a device like a dropcam.


  Expect to see a lot more dropcam-like competitors in the next 3-4 years that 
consume upstream bandwidth pretty much 24x7. Already several companies like 
Xiaomi which has a $36 camera:

  
https://www.google.ca/search?client=ubuntu=fs=xiaomi+security+camera=utf-8=utf-8_rd=cr=i_NqVseDFsmV8QeazaiIDw




  On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 7:58 AM, Darren Shea <darr...@ecpi.com> wrote:

Isn’t most of the appeal of a Crock-Pot/Slow Cooker the fact you do NOT 
need to micro-manage it? I put in the pot roast and veggies (or a batch of 
chili, or a pork shoulder), turn the thing on and let it do its thing for 4-6 
hours, and I have yummy food.



I don’t want an SNMP-enabled Crock-Pot I have to monitor on MRTG!



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2015 9:50 AM
To: af@afmug.com
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Used procera



my slow cooker has a 2.4 GHz single chain 802.11n radio in it


http://www.amazon.com/Crock-Pot-Wifi-Enabled-6-Quart-Cooker-SCCPWM600-V1/dp/B00IPEO02C


http://www.crock-pot.ca/en_CA/slow-cookers/crock-pot-wemo-enabled-smart-slow-cooker/SCCPWM600-V1.html



On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 7:46 AM, Darren Shea <darr...@ecpi.com> wrote:

Oh, YES – this.



Photo Sharing and iCloud Backup on phones and Macs, Windows Update, a 
BitTorrent share of the latest Game of Thrones episode, a sullen teenager 
hiding in a closet watching Netflix, Dad furiously trying to top his high score 
on that speedtest.net “game” – all of these use bandwidth, whether or not you 
know they’re active. This seems to be a good 60%+ of our support calls these 
days



Also…



Remember: On the internet, no one knows you’re a dog.



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2015 9:56 AM


To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Used procera



Haha, my new favorite thing customers say:  “But I’m not even on my phone”



Sorry, customer, the OS and apps are running, and your device is using your 
Internet without you.  Not to mention your Roku, satellite receiver, smart TV, 
Dropcam, garage door opener, sump pump, refrigerator, light bulbs, and probably 
your pets.





From: Chuck Hogg 

Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2015 9:28 AM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Used procera



We have gigs more capacity than we use.  The Procera is much more than 
that.   



So many tools...We use it as a tool to identify usage, so that users can be 
told how their connection is being used when they say they are not using 
itbandwidth shaping for 900MHz AP's...network diagnostics for VoIP...and 
many more.  Support loves it, begs for it, and uses it on most bandwidth 
complaint calls.



Regards,
Chuck



On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 12:01 PM, Stefan Englhardt <s...@genias.net> wrote:

This is why I try to solve bandwidth problems with throwing more bandwidth 
in.





Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Chuck Hogg
Gesendet: Dienstag, 8. Dezember 2015 17:49
    An: af@afmug.com
    Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Used procera



Example, our Procera licensing lapsed, I just paid the full price to get us 
current, even though we will only be getting <6mths of support.




Regards,
Chuck



On Sun, Dec 6, 2015 at 1:14 PM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote:

  Same with Barracuda basically.

  Rory


  -Original Message-
  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Simon Westlake
  Sent: Sunday, December 6, 2015 7:51 AM
      To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Used procera

  I would not buy a 7720. If it's not listed on Procera's website under 
'Products', it's EOL and they may not even license it anymore. Without 
licensing, it's essentially worthless.

  What I

Re: [AFMUG] Used procera

[Ken Hohhof]

Haha, my new favorite thing customers say:  “But I’m not even on my phone”

Sorry, customer, the OS and apps are running, and your device is using your 
Internet without you.  Not to mention your Roku, satellite receiver, smart TV, 
Dropcam, garage door opener, sump pump, refrigerator, light bulbs, and probably 
your pets.


From: Chuck Hogg 
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2015 9:28 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Used procera

We have gigs more capacity than we use.  The Procera is much more than that.   

So many tools...We use it as a tool to identify usage, so that users can be 
told how their connection is being used when they say they are not using 
itbandwidth shaping for 900MHz AP's...network diagnostics for VoIP...and 
many more.  Support loves it, begs for it, and uses it on most bandwidth 
complaint calls.

Regards,
Chuck

On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 12:01 PM, Stefan Englhardt <s...@genias.net> wrote:

  This is why I try to solve bandwidth problems with throwing more bandwidth in.





  Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Chuck Hogg
  Gesendet: Dienstag, 8. Dezember 2015 17:49
  An: af@afmug.com
  Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Used procera



  Example, our Procera licensing lapsed, I just paid the full price to get us 
current, even though we will only be getting <6mths of support.




  Regards,
  Chuck



  On Sun, Dec 6, 2015 at 1:14 PM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote:

Same with Barracuda basically.

Rory


-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Simon Westlake
Sent: Sunday, December 6, 2015 7:51 AM
To: af@afmug.com
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Used procera

I would not buy a 7720. If it's not listed on Procera's website under 
'Products', it's EOL and they may not even license it anymore. Without 
licensing, it's essentially worthless.

What I would do is contact a Procera reseller first, let them know what 
you're looking at, and they can generate a quote for you to license/support it. 
It may be cheaper than buying a new one if it's an expensive chassis, but I 
doubt you would save much in this particular case, and you may end up with an 
unusable chassis.

On 12/5/2015 9:48 PM, TJ Trout wrote:
>
> What are the cons of buying a used procera?
>
> http://m.ebay.com/itm/PacketLogic-Procera-PL7720-IPE-DPI-Appliance-Pac
> ket-Shaper-Deep-packet-inspect-/301749867874?nav=SEARCH
>

--
Simon Westlake
Skype: Simon_Sonar
Email: simon@sonar.software
Phone: (702) 447-1247
---
Sonar Software Inc
The next generation of ISP billing and OSS https://sonar.software

Re: [AFMUG] Used procera

[Chuck Hogg]

We have gigs more capacity than we use.  The Procera is much more than
that.

So many tools...We use it as a tool to identify usage, so that users can be
told how their connection is being used when they say they are not using
itbandwidth shaping for 900MHz AP's...network diagnostics for
VoIP...and many more.  Support loves it, begs for it, and uses it on most
bandwidth complaint calls.

Regards,
Chuck

On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 12:01 PM, Stefan Englhardt <s...@genias.net> wrote:

> This is why I try to solve bandwidth problems with throwing more bandwidth
> in.
>
>
>
>
>
> *Von:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im Auftrag von *Chuck Hogg
> *Gesendet:* Dienstag, 8. Dezember 2015 17:49
> *An:* af@afmug.com
> *Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] Used procera
>
>
>
> Example, our Procera licensing lapsed, I just paid the full price to get
> us current, even though we will only be getting <6mths of support.
>
>
> Regards,
> Chuck
>
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 6, 2015 at 1:14 PM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net>
> wrote:
>
> Same with Barracuda basically.
>
> Rory
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Simon Westlake
> Sent: Sunday, December 6, 2015 7:51 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Used procera
>
> I would not buy a 7720. If it's not listed on Procera's website under
> 'Products', it's EOL and they may not even license it anymore. Without
> licensing, it's essentially worthless.
>
> What I would do is contact a Procera reseller first, let them know what
> you're looking at, and they can generate a quote for you to license/support
> it. It may be cheaper than buying a new one if it's an expensive chassis,
> but I doubt you would save much in this particular case, and you may end up
> with an unusable chassis.
>
> On 12/5/2015 9:48 PM, TJ Trout wrote:
> >
> > What are the cons of buying a used procera?
> >
> > http://m.ebay.com/itm/PacketLogic-Procera-PL7720-IPE-DPI-Appliance-Pac
> > ket-Shaper-Deep-packet-inspect-/301749867874?nav=SEARCH
> >
>
> --
> Simon Westlake
> Skype: Simon_Sonar
> Email: simon@sonar.software
> Phone: (702) 447-1247
> ---
> Sonar Software Inc
> The next generation of ISP billing and OSS https://sonar.software
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Used procera

[Josh Luthman]

And Gerard had to talk you in to it.  Now you're selling it =)


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 10:28 AM, Chuck Hogg <ch...@shelbybb.com> wrote:

> We have gigs more capacity than we use.  The Procera is much more than
> that.
>
> So many tools...We use it as a tool to identify usage, so that users can
> be told how their connection is being used when they say they are not using
> itbandwidth shaping for 900MHz AP's...network diagnostics for
> VoIP...and many more.  Support loves it, begs for it, and uses it on most
> bandwidth complaint calls.
>
> Regards,
> Chuck
>
> On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 12:01 PM, Stefan Englhardt <s...@genias.net> wrote:
>
>> This is why I try to solve bandwidth problems with throwing more
>> bandwidth in.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Von:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im Auftrag von *Chuck Hogg
>> *Gesendet:* Dienstag, 8. Dezember 2015 17:49
>> *An:* af@afmug.com
>> *Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] Used procera
>>
>>
>>
>> Example, our Procera licensing lapsed, I just paid the full price to get
>> us current, even though we will only be getting <6mths of support.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Chuck
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 6, 2015 at 1:14 PM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Same with Barracuda basically.
>>
>> Rory
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Simon Westlake
>> Sent: Sunday, December 6, 2015 7:51 AM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Used procera
>>
>> I would not buy a 7720. If it's not listed on Procera's website under
>> 'Products', it's EOL and they may not even license it anymore. Without
>> licensing, it's essentially worthless.
>>
>> What I would do is contact a Procera reseller first, let them know what
>> you're looking at, and they can generate a quote for you to license/support
>> it. It may be cheaper than buying a new one if it's an expensive chassis,
>> but I doubt you would save much in this particular case, and you may end up
>> with an unusable chassis.
>>
>> On 12/5/2015 9:48 PM, TJ Trout wrote:
>> >
>> > What are the cons of buying a used procera?
>> >
>> > http://m.ebay.com/itm/PacketLogic-Procera-PL7720-IPE-DPI-Appliance-Pac
>> > ket-Shaper-Deep-packet-inspect-/301749867874?nav=SEARCH
>> >
>>
>> --
>> Simon Westlake
>> Skype: Simon_Sonar
>> Email: simon@sonar.software
>> Phone: (702) 447-1247
>> ---
>> Sonar Software Inc
>> The next generation of ISP billing and OSS https://sonar.software
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Used procera

[Stefan Englhardt]

This is why I try to solve bandwidth problems with throwing more bandwidth in.





Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Chuck Hogg
Gesendet: Dienstag, 8. Dezember 2015 17:49
An: af@afmug.com
Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Used procera



Example, our Procera licensing lapsed, I just paid the full price to get us 
current, even though we will only be getting <6mths of support.




Regards,
Chuck



On Sun, Dec 6, 2015 at 1:14 PM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net 
<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net> > wrote:

Same with Barracuda basically.

Rory


-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] On Behalf 
Of Simon Westlake
Sent: Sunday, December 6, 2015 7:51 AM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Used procera

I would not buy a 7720. If it's not listed on Procera's website under 
'Products', it's EOL and they may not even license it anymore. Without 
licensing, it's essentially worthless.

What I would do is contact a Procera reseller first, let them know what you're 
looking at, and they can generate a quote for you to license/support it. It may 
be cheaper than buying a new one if it's an expensive chassis, but I doubt you 
would save much in this particular case, and you may end up with an unusable 
chassis.

On 12/5/2015 9:48 PM, TJ Trout wrote:
>
> What are the cons of buying a used procera?
>
> http://m.ebay.com/itm/PacketLogic-Procera-PL7720-IPE-DPI-Appliance-Pac
> ket-Shaper-Deep-packet-inspect-/301749867874?nav=SEARCH
>

--
Simon Westlake
Skype: Simon_Sonar
Email: simon@sonar.software <mailto:simon@sonar.software>
Phone: (702) 447-1247 <tel:%28702%29%20447-1247>
---
Sonar Software Inc
The next generation of ISP billing and OSS https://sonar.software

Re: [AFMUG] Used procera

[Chuck Hogg]

Example, our Procera licensing lapsed, I just paid the full price to get us
current, even though we will only be getting <6mths of support.

Regards,
Chuck

On Sun, Dec 6, 2015 at 1:14 PM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote:

> Same with Barracuda basically.
>
> Rory
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Simon Westlake
> Sent: Sunday, December 6, 2015 7:51 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Used procera
>
> I would not buy a 7720. If it's not listed on Procera's website under
> 'Products', it's EOL and they may not even license it anymore. Without
> licensing, it's essentially worthless.
>
> What I would do is contact a Procera reseller first, let them know what
> you're looking at, and they can generate a quote for you to license/support
> it. It may be cheaper than buying a new one if it's an expensive chassis,
> but I doubt you would save much in this particular case, and you may end up
> with an unusable chassis.
>
> On 12/5/2015 9:48 PM, TJ Trout wrote:
> >
> > What are the cons of buying a used procera?
> >
> > http://m.ebay.com/itm/PacketLogic-Procera-PL7720-IPE-DPI-Appliance-Pac
> > ket-Shaper-Deep-packet-inspect-/301749867874?nav=SEARCH
> >
>
> --
> Simon Westlake
> Skype: Simon_Sonar
> Email: simon@sonar.software
> Phone: (702) 447-1247
> ---
> Sonar Software Inc
> The next generation of ISP billing and OSS https://sonar.software
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Used procera

[Josh Reynolds]

There is far more to procera than simply packet reorg. It's a valuable
network diagnostics tool, bandwidth shaping per customer, a good and
fast central point to dump pcaps from, some of the best DPI (if not
the best) in the industry, etc.

Very damn good system. Scalable too.

On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 11:01 AM, Stefan Englhardt <s...@genias.net> wrote:
> This is why I try to solve bandwidth problems with throwing more bandwidth
> in.
>
>
>
>
>
> Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Chuck Hogg
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 8. Dezember 2015 17:49
> An: af@afmug.com
> Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Used procera
>
>
>
> Example, our Procera licensing lapsed, I just paid the full price to get us
> current, even though we will only be getting <6mths of support.
>
>
> Regards,
> Chuck
>
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 6, 2015 at 1:14 PM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote:
>
> Same with Barracuda basically.
>
> Rory
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Simon Westlake
> Sent: Sunday, December 6, 2015 7:51 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Used procera
>
> I would not buy a 7720. If it's not listed on Procera's website under
> 'Products', it's EOL and they may not even license it anymore. Without
> licensing, it's essentially worthless.
>
> What I would do is contact a Procera reseller first, let them know what
> you're looking at, and they can generate a quote for you to license/support
> it. It may be cheaper than buying a new one if it's an expensive chassis,
> but I doubt you would save much in this particular case, and you may end up
> with an unusable chassis.
>
> On 12/5/2015 9:48 PM, TJ Trout wrote:
>>
>> What are the cons of buying a used procera?
>>
>> http://m.ebay.com/itm/PacketLogic-Procera-PL7720-IPE-DPI-Appliance-Pac
>> ket-Shaper-Deep-packet-inspect-/301749867874?nav=SEARCH
>>
>
> --
> Simon Westlake
> Skype: Simon_Sonar
> Email: simon@sonar.software
> Phone: (702) 447-1247
> ---
> Sonar Software Inc
> The next generation of ISP billing and OSS https://sonar.software
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Used procera

[Rory Conaway]

Same with Barracuda basically.

Rory

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Simon Westlake
Sent: Sunday, December 6, 2015 7:51 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Used procera

I would not buy a 7720. If it's not listed on Procera's website under 
'Products', it's EOL and they may not even license it anymore. Without 
licensing, it's essentially worthless.

What I would do is contact a Procera reseller first, let them know what you're 
looking at, and they can generate a quote for you to license/support it. It may 
be cheaper than buying a new one if it's an expensive chassis, but I doubt you 
would save much in this particular case, and you may end up with an unusable 
chassis.

On 12/5/2015 9:48 PM, TJ Trout wrote:
>
> What are the cons of buying a used procera?
>
> http://m.ebay.com/itm/PacketLogic-Procera-PL7720-IPE-DPI-Appliance-Pac
> ket-Shaper-Deep-packet-inspect-/301749867874?nav=SEARCH
>

--
Simon Westlake
Skype: Simon_Sonar
Email: simon@sonar.software
Phone: (702) 447-1247
---
Sonar Software Inc
The next generation of ISP billing and OSS https://sonar.software

Re: [AFMUG] Used procera

[Gino Villarini]

We have one 7810 for sale, ping me offlist if interested

On Sun, Dec 6, 2015 at 2:59 AM, Josh Reynolds  wrote:

> Most of the cost is not tied to the hardware... it's tied to the
> licensing that keeps the box working, the signature updates (like
> twice a week), and support.
>
> On Sat, Dec 5, 2015 at 9:48 PM, TJ Trout  wrote:
> > What are the cons of buying a used procera?
> >
> >
> http://m.ebay.com/itm/PacketLogic-Procera-PL7720-IPE-DPI-Appliance-Packet-Shaper-Deep-packet-inspect-/301749867874?nav=SEARCH
>

Re: [AFMUG] Used procera

[Josh Reynolds]

Most of the cost is not tied to the hardware... it's tied to the
licensing that keeps the box working, the signature updates (like
twice a week), and support.

On Sat, Dec 5, 2015 at 9:48 PM, TJ Trout  wrote:
> What are the cons of buying a used procera?
>
> http://m.ebay.com/itm/PacketLogic-Procera-PL7720-IPE-DPI-Appliance-Packet-Shaper-Deep-packet-inspect-/301749867874?nav=SEARCH

[AFMUG] Used procera

[TJ Trout]

What are the cons of buying a used procera?

http://m.ebay.com/itm/PacketLogic-Procera-PL7720-IPE-DPI-Appliance-Packet-Shaper-Deep-packet-inspect-/301749867874?nav=SEARCH