[AFMUG] Weekly EPMP Rant

2015-03-27 Thread Nate Burke

Weekly Rant
So I'm whiling away the hours programming EPMP radios and assembling 
Force Dishes, and it occurred to me that this truly is 'Telco Grade 
equipment'.  After seeing what the Telco Guys use, and watching how they 
work, I can only imagine that this equipment is specifically designed 
for use by people 'paid by the hour', Probably at Union scale.


Well, I've programmed a radio, and assembled a dish, Time for a break 
before I go to install it


I'm guessing there's some sort of regulation specifying how long it 
needs to take to assemble equipment so that job's aren't done 'too 
quick' so it can easily fill an entire day.


/Weekly Rant


Re: [AFMUG] Weekly EPMP Rant

2015-03-27 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
LOL,
 I can't afford to spend half my day assembling those dumb things.


Kurt Fankhauser

Wavelinc Communications

P.O. Box 126

Bucyrus, OH 44820

http://www.wavelinc.com

tel. 419-562-6405

fax. 419-617-0110

On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 11:27 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
wrote:

 Just put it in upside down :P

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 On Mar 27, 2015 11:17 AM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote:

 I go through a thought process similar to that whenever I attempt to pull
 the feed horn/radio out of a nanobridge. After a couple of those, I learned
 to file down the little nub that locks it in place.

 bp
 part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com

 On 3/27/2015 8:09 AM, Nate Burke wrote:

 Weekly Rant
 So I'm whiling away the hours programming EPMP radios and assembling
 Force Dishes, and it occurred to me that this truly is 'Telco Grade
 equipment'.  After seeing what the Telco Guys use, and watching how they
 work, I can only imagine that this equipment is specifically designed for
 use by people 'paid by the hour', Probably at Union scale.

 Well, I've programmed a radio, and assembled a dish, Time for a break
 before I go to install it

 I'm guessing there's some sort of regulation specifying how long it
 needs to take to assemble equipment so that job's aren't done 'too quick'
 so it can easily fill an entire day.

 /Weekly Rant





Re: [AFMUG] Weekly EPMP Rant

2015-03-27 Thread Josh Luthman
Just put it in upside down :P

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Mar 27, 2015 11:17 AM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote:

 I go through a thought process similar to that whenever I attempt to pull
 the feed horn/radio out of a nanobridge. After a couple of those, I learned
 to file down the little nub that locks it in place.

 bp
 part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com

 On 3/27/2015 8:09 AM, Nate Burke wrote:

 Weekly Rant
 So I'm whiling away the hours programming EPMP radios and assembling
 Force Dishes, and it occurred to me that this truly is 'Telco Grade
 equipment'.  After seeing what the Telco Guys use, and watching how they
 work, I can only imagine that this equipment is specifically designed for
 use by people 'paid by the hour', Probably at Union scale.

 Well, I've programmed a radio, and assembled a dish, Time for a break
 before I go to install it

 I'm guessing there's some sort of regulation specifying how long it needs
 to take to assemble equipment so that job's aren't done 'too quick' so it
 can easily fill an entire day.

 /Weekly Rant





Re: [AFMUG] Weekly EPMP Rant

2015-03-27 Thread Bill Prince
I go through a thought process similar to that whenever I attempt to 
pull the feed horn/radio out of a nanobridge. After a couple of those, I 
learned to file down the little nub that locks it in place.


bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com

On 3/27/2015 8:09 AM, Nate Burke wrote:

Weekly Rant
So I'm whiling away the hours programming EPMP radios and assembling 
Force Dishes, and it occurred to me that this truly is 'Telco Grade 
equipment'.  After seeing what the Telco Guys use, and watching how 
they work, I can only imagine that this equipment is specifically 
designed for use by people 'paid by the hour', Probably at Union scale.


Well, I've programmed a radio, and assembled a dish, Time for a break 
before I go to install it


I'm guessing there's some sort of regulation specifying how long it 
needs to take to assemble equipment so that job's aren't done 'too 
quick' so it can easily fill an entire day.


/Weekly Rant




Re: [AFMUG] Weekly EPMP Rant

2015-03-27 Thread Jay Weekley
It seems that manufacturers often don't test their equipment in the 
field. To add to the Weekley rant, I'm waiting for the 2.4 dishes they 
told me at two conferences would be available this month and now they 
say it will be the 3rd quarter.


Nate Burke wrote:
Assembly of 6 EPMP dishes took 3 hours, and broke 1 during assembly.  
I Still can't believe anybody at Cambium actually put one together 
before they started selling them.  Or maybe the Cambium guys are paid 
by the hour?  Then it's a perfect dish...



On 3/27/2015 11:03 AM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote:

LOL,
 I can't afford to spend half my day assembling those dumb things.


Kurt Fankhauser

Wavelinc Communications

P.O. Box 126

Bucyrus, OH 44820

http://www.wavelinc.com http://www.wavelinc.com/

tel. 419-562-6405

fax. 419-617-0110


On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 11:27 AM, Josh Luthman 
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:


Just put it in upside down :P

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mar 27, 2015 11:17 AM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com
mailto:part15...@gmail.com wrote:

I go through a thought process similar to that whenever I
attempt to pull the feed horn/radio out of a nanobridge.
After a couple of those, I learned to file down the little
nub that locks it in place.

bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com

On 3/27/2015 8:09 AM, Nate Burke wrote:

Weekly Rant
So I'm whiling away the hours programming EPMP radios and
assembling Force Dishes, and it occurred to me that this
truly is 'Telco Grade equipment'.  After seeing what the
Telco Guys use, and watching how they work, I can only
imagine that this equipment is specifically designed for
use by people 'paid by the hour', Probably at Union scale.

Well, I've programmed a radio, and assembled a dish,
Time for a break before I go to install it

I'm guessing there's some sort of regulation specifying
how long it needs to take to assemble equipment so that
job's aren't done 'too quick' so it can easily fill an
entire day.

/Weekly Rant









Re: [AFMUG] Weekly EPMP Rant

2015-03-27 Thread Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc
Here is my ePMP Rant:  

1. Give me alignment tone.  That is all.
2. Yesterday Cambium was looking at a throughput issue (probably Ethernet)
on one of our Force 110 links.  I was told we had the best configured ePMP
PTP link ever seen worldwide.  

Not sure what to think about that comment.  Do I brag about it or do I run
like hell.


Tyson Burris, President 
Internet Communications Inc. 
739 Commerce Dr. 
Franklin, IN 46131 
  
317-738-0320 Daytime # 
317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # 
Online: www.surfici.net 


What can ICI do for you? 

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-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Nate Burke
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 11:09 AM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: [AFMUG] Weekly EPMP Rant

Weekly Rant
So I'm whiling away the hours programming EPMP radios and assembling Force
Dishes, and it occurred to me that this truly is 'Telco Grade equipment'.
After seeing what the Telco Guys use, and watching how they work, I can only
imagine that this equipment is specifically designed for use by people 'paid
by the hour', Probably at Union scale.

Well, I've programmed a radio, and assembled a dish, Time for a break
before I go to install it

I'm guessing there's some sort of regulation specifying how long it needs to
take to assemble equipment so that job's aren't done 'too quick' so it can
easily fill an entire day.

/Weekly Rant


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Re: [AFMUG] Weekly EPMP Rant

2015-03-27 Thread Josh Luthman
Actually I'm using the server (quadcore Xeon 18 GHz with 32GB of memory) so
it only takes me a minute or two to load the interface.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Nate Burke n...@blastcomm.com wrote:

  Better Start loading the webpage now then


 On 3/27/2015 1:25 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

 BRB calling ePMP support to improve my configured link?


  Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 2:20 PM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications
 Inc t...@franklinisp.net wrote:

 Here is my ePMP Rant:

 1. Give me alignment tone.  That is all.
 2. Yesterday Cambium was looking at a throughput issue (probably Ethernet)
 on one of our Force 110 links.  I was told we had the best configured ePMP
 PTP link ever seen worldwide.

 Not sure what to think about that comment.  Do I brag about it or do I run
 like hell.


 Tyson Burris, President
 Internet Communications Inc.
 739 Commerce Dr.
 Franklin, IN 46131

 317-738-0320 Daytime #
 317-412-1540 Cell/Direct #
 Online: www.surfici.net


 What can ICI do for you?

 Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh Wifi/Hotzones - IP
 Security - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure.

 CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail is intended for the
 addressee shown. It contains information that is
 confidential and protected from disclosure. Any review,
 dissemination or use of this transmission or its contents by
 unauthorized organizations or individuals is strictly
 prohibited.

 -Original Message-
 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Nate Burke
 Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 11:09 AM
 To: Animal Farm
 Subject: [AFMUG] Weekly EPMP Rant

 Weekly Rant
 So I'm whiling away the hours programming EPMP radios and assembling Force
 Dishes, and it occurred to me that this truly is 'Telco Grade equipment'.
 After seeing what the Telco Guys use, and watching how they work, I can
 only
 imagine that this equipment is specifically designed for use by people
 'paid
 by the hour', Probably at Union scale.

 Well, I've programmed a radio, and assembled a dish, Time for a break
 before I go to install it

 I'm guessing there's some sort of regulation specifying how long it needs
 to
 take to assemble equipment so that job's aren't done 'too quick' so it can
 easily fill an entire day.

 /Weekly Rant


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Re: [AFMUG] Weekly EPMP Rant

2015-03-27 Thread Josh Luthman
BRB calling ePMP support to improve my configured link?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 2:20 PM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc
t...@franklinisp.net wrote:

 Here is my ePMP Rant:

 1. Give me alignment tone.  That is all.
 2. Yesterday Cambium was looking at a throughput issue (probably Ethernet)
 on one of our Force 110 links.  I was told we had the best configured ePMP
 PTP link ever seen worldwide.

 Not sure what to think about that comment.  Do I brag about it or do I run
 like hell.


 Tyson Burris, President
 Internet Communications Inc.
 739 Commerce Dr.
 Franklin, IN 46131

 317-738-0320 Daytime #
 317-412-1540 Cell/Direct #
 Online: www.surfici.net


 What can ICI do for you?

 Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh Wifi/Hotzones - IP
 Security - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure.

 CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail is intended for the
 addressee shown. It contains information that is
 confidential and protected from disclosure. Any review,
 dissemination or use of this transmission or its contents by
 unauthorized organizations or individuals is strictly
 prohibited.

 -Original Message-
 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Nate Burke
 Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 11:09 AM
 To: Animal Farm
 Subject: [AFMUG] Weekly EPMP Rant

 Weekly Rant
 So I'm whiling away the hours programming EPMP radios and assembling Force
 Dishes, and it occurred to me that this truly is 'Telco Grade equipment'.
 After seeing what the Telco Guys use, and watching how they work, I can
 only
 imagine that this equipment is specifically designed for use by people
 'paid
 by the hour', Probably at Union scale.

 Well, I've programmed a radio, and assembled a dish, Time for a break
 before I go to install it

 I'm guessing there's some sort of regulation specifying how long it needs
 to
 take to assemble equipment so that job's aren't done 'too quick' so it can
 easily fill an entire day.

 /Weekly Rant


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Re: [AFMUG] Weekly EPMP Rant

2015-03-27 Thread Josh Luthman
*points to subject*


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 2:40 PM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net
wrote:

  Man, I thought it was Funny Friday, not Fry the Vendors Friday.



 Rory



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Nate Burke
 *Sent:* Friday, March 27, 2015 11:38 AM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Weekly EPMP Rant



 Ok, so you're just at the Minimum GUI display specs.  That should be
 somewhat manageable then.

  On 3/27/2015 1:31 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

  Actually I'm using the server (quadcore Xeon 18 GHz with 32GB of memory)
 so it only takes me a minute or two to load the interface.




 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373



 On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Nate Burke n...@blastcomm.com wrote:

 Better Start loading the webpage now then

  On 3/27/2015 1:25 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

  BRB calling ePMP support to improve my configured link?




 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373



 On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 2:20 PM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications
 Inc t...@franklinisp.net wrote:

 Here is my ePMP Rant:

 1. Give me alignment tone.  That is all.
 2. Yesterday Cambium was looking at a throughput issue (probably Ethernet)
 on one of our Force 110 links.  I was told we had the best configured ePMP
 PTP link ever seen worldwide.

 Not sure what to think about that comment.  Do I brag about it or do I run
 like hell.


 Tyson Burris, President
 Internet Communications Inc.
 739 Commerce Dr.
 Franklin, IN 46131

 317-738-0320 Daytime #
 317-412-1540 Cell/Direct #
 Online: www.surfici.net


 What can ICI do for you?

 Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh Wifi/Hotzones - IP
 Security - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure.

 CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail is intended for the
 addressee shown. It contains information that is
 confidential and protected from disclosure. Any review,
 dissemination or use of this transmission or its contents by
 unauthorized organizations or individuals is strictly
 prohibited.

 -Original Message-
 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Nate Burke
 Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 11:09 AM
 To: Animal Farm
 Subject: [AFMUG] Weekly EPMP Rant

 Weekly Rant
 So I'm whiling away the hours programming EPMP radios and assembling Force
 Dishes, and it occurred to me that this truly is 'Telco Grade equipment'.
 After seeing what the Telco Guys use, and watching how they work, I can
 only
 imagine that this equipment is specifically designed for use by people
 'paid
 by the hour', Probably at Union scale.

 Well, I've programmed a radio, and assembled a dish, Time for a break
 before I go to install it

 I'm guessing there's some sort of regulation specifying how long it needs
 to
 take to assemble equipment so that job's aren't done 'too quick' so it can
 easily fill an entire day.

 /Weekly Rant


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Re: [AFMUG] Weekly EPMP Rant

2015-03-27 Thread Mathew Howard
You just need to find a couple of Force 100's to put together... after
that, the Force 110 will seem like a wonderful design!

On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 1:03 PM, Nate Burke n...@blastcomm.com wrote:

  Assembly of 6 EPMP dishes took 3 hours, and broke 1 during assembly.  I
 Still can't believe anybody at Cambium actually put one together before
 they started selling them.  Or maybe the Cambium guys are paid by the
 hour?  Then it's a perfect dish...


 On 3/27/2015 11:03 AM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote:

  LOL,
  I can't afford to spend half my day assembling those dumb things.


  Kurt Fankhauser

 Wavelinc Communications

 P.O. Box 126

 Bucyrus, OH 44820

 http://www.wavelinc.com

 tel. 419-562-6405

 fax. 419-617-0110

 On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 11:27 AM, Josh Luthman 
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

 Just put it in upside down :P

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
   On Mar 27, 2015 11:17 AM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote:

 I go through a thought process similar to that whenever I attempt to
 pull the feed horn/radio out of a nanobridge. After a couple of those, I
 learned to file down the little nub that locks it in place.

 bp
 part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com

 On 3/27/2015 8:09 AM, Nate Burke wrote:

 Weekly Rant
 So I'm whiling away the hours programming EPMP radios and assembling
 Force Dishes, and it occurred to me that this truly is 'Telco Grade
 equipment'.  After seeing what the Telco Guys use, and watching how they
 work, I can only imagine that this equipment is specifically designed for
 use by people 'paid by the hour', Probably at Union scale.

 Well, I've programmed a radio, and assembled a dish, Time for a break
 before I go to install it

 I'm guessing there's some sort of regulation specifying how long it
 needs to take to assemble equipment so that job's aren't done 'too quick'
 so it can easily fill an entire day.

 /Weekly Rant







Re: [AFMUG] Weekly EPMP Rant

2015-03-27 Thread Mike Hammett
I was there for the first Force 100s that were jacked up, but after that, they 
took less. The Force 110s take a lot less. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

- Original Message -

From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 1:07:24 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Weekly EPMP Rant 


I think if it takes you 30 minutes you're doing something wrong. Not to say 
there isn't a lot of room for improvement, there most certainly is, but 2 an 
hour seems like a bit weak. 






Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 

On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 2:03 PM, Nate Burke  n...@blastcomm.com  wrote: 



Assembly of 6 EPMP dishes took 3 hours, and broke 1 during assembly. I Still 
can't believe anybody at Cambium actually put one together before they started 
selling them. Or maybe the Cambium guys are paid by the hour? Then it's a 
perfect dish... 



On 3/27/2015 11:03 AM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: 

blockquote


LOL, 
I can't afford to spend half my day assembling those dumb things. 







Kurt Fankhauser 
Wavelinc Communications 
P.O. Box 126 
Bucyrus, OH 44820 
http://www.wavelinc.com 
tel. 419-562-6405 
fax. 419-617-0110 

On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 11:27 AM, Josh Luthman  j...@imaginenetworksllc.com  
wrote: 

blockquote

Just put it in upside down :P 
Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 


On Mar 27, 2015 11:17 AM, Bill Prince  part15...@gmail.com  wrote: 



blockquote
I go through a thought process similar to that whenever I attempt to pull the 
feed horn/radio out of a nanobridge. After a couple of those, I learned to file 
down the little nub that locks it in place. 

bp 
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com 

On 3/27/2015 8:09 AM, Nate Burke wrote: 

blockquote
Weekly Rant 
So I'm whiling away the hours programming EPMP radios and assembling Force 
Dishes, and it occurred to me that this truly is 'Telco Grade equipment'. After 
seeing what the Telco Guys use, and watching how they work, I can only imagine 
that this equipment is specifically designed for use by people 'paid by the 
hour', Probably at Union scale. 

Well, I've programmed a radio, and assembled a dish, Time for a break before I 
go to install it 

I'm guessing there's some sort of regulation specifying how long it needs to 
take to assemble equipment so that job's aren't done 'too quick' so it can 
easily fill an entire day. 

/Weekly Rant 




/blockquote

/blockquote


/blockquote


/blockquote




Re: [AFMUG] Weekly EPMP Rant

2015-03-27 Thread Josh Luthman
Exactly.  I have my new $25k server coming in so I can load the web page in
full 1024x768 resolution next week.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 2:38 PM, Nate Burke n...@blastcomm.com wrote:

  Ok, so you're just at the Minimum GUI display specs.  That should be
 somewhat manageable then.


 On 3/27/2015 1:31 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

 Actually I'm using the server (quadcore Xeon 18 GHz with 32GB of memory)
 so it only takes me a minute or two to load the interface.


  Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Nate Burke n...@blastcomm.com wrote:

  Better Start loading the webpage now then


 On 3/27/2015 1:25 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

 BRB calling ePMP support to improve my configured link?


  Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

  On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 2:20 PM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications
 Inc t...@franklinisp.net wrote:

 Here is my ePMP Rant:

 1. Give me alignment tone.  That is all.
 2. Yesterday Cambium was looking at a throughput issue (probably
 Ethernet)
 on one of our Force 110 links.  I was told we had the best configured
 ePMP
 PTP link ever seen worldwide.

 Not sure what to think about that comment.  Do I brag about it or do I
 run
 like hell.


 Tyson Burris, President
 Internet Communications Inc.
 739 Commerce Dr.
 Franklin, IN 46131

 317-738-0320 Daytime #
 317-412-1540 Cell/Direct #
 Online: www.surfici.net


 What can ICI do for you?

 Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh Wifi/Hotzones - IP
 Security - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure.

 CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail is intended for the
 addressee shown. It contains information that is
 confidential and protected from disclosure. Any review,
 dissemination or use of this transmission or its contents by
 unauthorized organizations or individuals is strictly
 prohibited.

 -Original Message-
 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Nate Burke
 Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 11:09 AM
 To: Animal Farm
 Subject: [AFMUG] Weekly EPMP Rant

 Weekly Rant
 So I'm whiling away the hours programming EPMP radios and assembling
 Force
 Dishes, and it occurred to me that this truly is 'Telco Grade equipment'.
 After seeing what the Telco Guys use, and watching how they work, I can
 only
 imagine that this equipment is specifically designed for use by people
 'paid
 by the hour', Probably at Union scale.

 Well, I've programmed a radio, and assembled a dish, Time for a break
 before I go to install it

 I'm guessing there's some sort of regulation specifying how long it
 needs to
 take to assemble equipment so that job's aren't done 'too quick' so it
 can
 easily fill an entire day.

 /Weekly Rant


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Re: [AFMUG] Weekly EPMP Rant

2015-03-27 Thread Rory Conaway
Man, I thought it was Funny Friday, not Fry the Vendors Friday.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Nate Burke
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 11:38 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Weekly EPMP Rant

Ok, so you're just at the Minimum GUI display specs.  That should be somewhat 
manageable then.

On 3/27/2015 1:31 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
Actually I'm using the server (quadcore Xeon 18 GHz with 32GB of memory) so it 
only takes me a minute or two to load the interface.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Nate Burke 
n...@blastcomm.commailto:n...@blastcomm.com wrote:
Better Start loading the webpage now then

On 3/27/2015 1:25 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
BRB calling ePMP support to improve my configured link?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 2:20 PM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc 
t...@franklinisp.netmailto:t...@franklinisp.net wrote:
Here is my ePMP Rant:

1. Give me alignment tone.  That is all.
2. Yesterday Cambium was looking at a throughput issue (probably Ethernet)
on one of our Force 110 links.  I was told we had the best configured ePMP
PTP link ever seen worldwide.

Not sure what to think about that comment.  Do I brag about it or do I run
like hell.


Tyson Burris, President
Internet Communications Inc.
739 Commerce Dr.
Franklin, IN 46131

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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.commailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf 
Of Nate Burke
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 11:09 AM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: [AFMUG] Weekly EPMP Rant

Weekly Rant
So I'm whiling away the hours programming EPMP radios and assembling Force
Dishes, and it occurred to me that this truly is 'Telco Grade equipment'.
After seeing what the Telco Guys use, and watching how they work, I can only
imagine that this equipment is specifically designed for use by people 'paid
by the hour', Probably at Union scale.

Well, I've programmed a radio, and assembled a dish, Time for a break
before I go to install it

I'm guessing there's some sort of regulation specifying how long it needs to
take to assemble equipment so that job's aren't done 'too quick' so it can
easily fill an entire day.

/Weekly Rant


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Re: [AFMUG] Weekly EPMP Rant

2015-03-27 Thread Rory Conaway
No argument.

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 11:41 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Weekly EPMP Rant

*points to subject*


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 2:40 PM, Rory Conaway 
r...@triadwireless.netmailto:r...@triadwireless.net wrote:
Man, I thought it was Funny Friday, not Fry the Vendors Friday.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.commailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf 
Of Nate Burke
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 11:38 AM
To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Weekly EPMP Rant

Ok, so you're just at the Minimum GUI display specs.  That should be somewhat 
manageable then.
On 3/27/2015 1:31 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
Actually I'm using the server (quadcore Xeon 18 GHz with 32GB of memory) so it 
only takes me a minute or two to load the interface.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Nate Burke 
n...@blastcomm.commailto:n...@blastcomm.com wrote:
Better Start loading the webpage now then
On 3/27/2015 1:25 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
BRB calling ePMP support to improve my configured link?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 2:20 PM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc 
t...@franklinisp.netmailto:t...@franklinisp.net wrote:
Here is my ePMP Rant:

1. Give me alignment tone.  That is all.
2. Yesterday Cambium was looking at a throughput issue (probably Ethernet)
on one of our Force 110 links.  I was told we had the best configured ePMP
PTP link ever seen worldwide.

Not sure what to think about that comment.  Do I brag about it or do I run
like hell.


Tyson Burris, President
Internet Communications Inc.
739 Commerce Dr.
Franklin, IN 46131

317-738-0320tel:317-738-0320 Daytime #
317-412-1540tel:317-412-1540 Cell/Direct #
Online: www.surfici.nethttp://www.surfici.net


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-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.commailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf 
Of Nate Burke
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 11:09 AM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: [AFMUG] Weekly EPMP Rant

Weekly Rant
So I'm whiling away the hours programming EPMP radios and assembling Force
Dishes, and it occurred to me that this truly is 'Telco Grade equipment'.
After seeing what the Telco Guys use, and watching how they work, I can only
imagine that this equipment is specifically designed for use by people 'paid
by the hour', Probably at Union scale.

Well, I've programmed a radio, and assembled a dish, Time for a break
before I go to install it

I'm guessing there's some sort of regulation specifying how long it needs to
take to assemble equipment so that job's aren't done 'too quick' so it can
easily fill an entire day.

/Weekly Rant


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Re: [AFMUG] Weekly EPMP Rant

2015-03-27 Thread Mike Hammett
S3 the other day and it didn't seem terrible. It took maybe 30 seconds to load, 
but seemed manageable. There seemed to be a little disconnect in real time 
display of the signal, though the SNR seemed to update more frequently. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

- Original Message -

From: Nate Burke n...@blastcomm.com 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 1:38:01 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Weekly EPMP Rant 

Ok, so you're just at the Minimum GUI display specs. That should be somewhat 
manageable then. 



On 3/27/2015 1:31 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: 



Actually I'm using the server (quadcore Xeon 18 GHz with 32GB of memory) so it 
only takes me a minute or two to load the interface. 






Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 

On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Nate Burke  n...@blastcomm.com  wrote: 

blockquote

Better Start loading the webpage now then 



On 3/27/2015 1:25 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: 

blockquote

BRB calling ePMP support to improve my configured link? 






Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 

On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 2:20 PM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc  
t...@franklinisp.net  wrote: 



blockquote
Here is my ePMP Rant: 

1. Give me alignment tone. That is all. 
2. Yesterday Cambium was looking at a throughput issue (probably Ethernet) 
on one of our Force 110 links. I was told we had the best configured ePMP 
PTP link ever seen worldwide. 

Not sure what to think about that comment. Do I brag about it or do I run 
like hell. 


Tyson Burris, President 
Internet Communications Inc. 
739 Commerce Dr. 
Franklin, IN 46131 

317-738-0320 Daytime # 
317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # 
Online: www.surfici.net 


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-Original Message- 
From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Nate Burke 
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 11:09 AM 
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: [AFMUG] Weekly EPMP Rant 

Weekly Rant 
So I'm whiling away the hours programming EPMP radios and assembling Force 
Dishes, and it occurred to me that this truly is 'Telco Grade equipment'. 
After seeing what the Telco Guys use, and watching how they work, I can only 
imagine that this equipment is specifically designed for use by people 'paid 
by the hour', Probably at Union scale. 

Well, I've programmed a radio, and assembled a dish, Time for a break 
before I go to install it 

I'm guessing there's some sort of regulation specifying how long it needs to 
take to assemble equipment so that job's aren't done 'too quick' so it can 
easily fill an entire day. 

/Weekly Rant 


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/blockquote


/blockquote


/blockquote




Re: [AFMUG] Weekly EPMP Rant

2015-03-27 Thread Nate Burke
Assembly of 6 EPMP dishes took 3 hours, and broke 1 during assembly.  I 
Still can't believe anybody at Cambium actually put one together before 
they started selling them.  Or maybe the Cambium guys are paid by the 
hour?  Then it's a perfect dish...



On 3/27/2015 11:03 AM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote:

LOL,
 I can't afford to spend half my day assembling those dumb things.


Kurt Fankhauser

Wavelinc Communications

P.O. Box 126

Bucyrus, OH 44820

http://www.wavelinc.com http://www.wavelinc.com/

tel. 419-562-6405

fax. 419-617-0110


On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 11:27 AM, Josh Luthman 
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:


Just put it in upside down :P

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mar 27, 2015 11:17 AM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com
mailto:part15...@gmail.com wrote:

I go through a thought process similar to that whenever I
attempt to pull the feed horn/radio out of a nanobridge. After
a couple of those, I learned to file down the little nub that
locks it in place.

bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com

On 3/27/2015 8:09 AM, Nate Burke wrote:

Weekly Rant
So I'm whiling away the hours programming EPMP radios and
assembling Force Dishes, and it occurred to me that this
truly is 'Telco Grade equipment'.  After seeing what the
Telco Guys use, and watching how they work, I can only
imagine that this equipment is specifically designed for
use by people 'paid by the hour', Probably at Union scale.

Well, I've programmed a radio, and assembled a dish, Time
for a break before I go to install it

I'm guessing there's some sort of regulation specifying
how long it needs to take to assemble equipment so that
job's aren't done 'too quick' so it can easily fill an
entire day.

/Weekly Rant







Re: [AFMUG] Weekly EPMP Rant

2015-03-27 Thread Josh Luthman
I think if it takes you 30 minutes you're doing something wrong.  Not to
say there isn't a lot of room for improvement, there most certainly is, but
2 an hour seems like a bit weak.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 2:03 PM, Nate Burke n...@blastcomm.com wrote:

  Assembly of 6 EPMP dishes took 3 hours, and broke 1 during assembly.  I
 Still can't believe anybody at Cambium actually put one together before
 they started selling them.  Or maybe the Cambium guys are paid by the
 hour?  Then it's a perfect dish...


 On 3/27/2015 11:03 AM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote:

  LOL,
  I can't afford to spend half my day assembling those dumb things.


  Kurt Fankhauser

 Wavelinc Communications

 P.O. Box 126

 Bucyrus, OH 44820

 http://www.wavelinc.com

 tel. 419-562-6405

 fax. 419-617-0110

 On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 11:27 AM, Josh Luthman 
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

 Just put it in upside down :P

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
   On Mar 27, 2015 11:17 AM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote:

 I go through a thought process similar to that whenever I attempt to
 pull the feed horn/radio out of a nanobridge. After a couple of those, I
 learned to file down the little nub that locks it in place.

 bp
 part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com

 On 3/27/2015 8:09 AM, Nate Burke wrote:

 Weekly Rant
 So I'm whiling away the hours programming EPMP radios and assembling
 Force Dishes, and it occurred to me that this truly is 'Telco Grade
 equipment'.  After seeing what the Telco Guys use, and watching how they
 work, I can only imagine that this equipment is specifically designed for
 use by people 'paid by the hour', Probably at Union scale.

 Well, I've programmed a radio, and assembled a dish, Time for a break
 before I go to install it

 I'm guessing there's some sort of regulation specifying how long it
 needs to take to assemble equipment so that job's aren't done 'too quick'
 so it can easily fill an entire day.

 /Weekly Rant







Re: [AFMUG] Weekly EPMP Rant

2015-03-27 Thread Nate Burke

Better Start loading the webpage now then


On 3/27/2015 1:25 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

BRB calling ePMP support to improve my configured link?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 2:20 PM, Tyson Burris @ Internet 
Communications Inc t...@franklinisp.net mailto:t...@franklinisp.net wrote:


Here is my ePMP Rant:

1. Give me alignment tone.  That is all.
2. Yesterday Cambium was looking at a throughput issue (probably
Ethernet)
on one of our Force 110 links.  I was told we had the best
configured ePMP
PTP link ever seen worldwide.

Not sure what to think about that comment.  Do I brag about it or
do I run
like hell.


Tyson Burris, President
Internet Communications Inc.
739 Commerce Dr.
Franklin, IN 46131

317-738-0320 tel:317-738-0320 Daytime #
317-412-1540 tel:317-412-1540 Cell/Direct #
Online: www.surfici.net http://www.surfici.net


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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Nate Burke
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 11:09 AM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: [AFMUG] Weekly EPMP Rant

Weekly Rant
So I'm whiling away the hours programming EPMP radios and
assembling Force
Dishes, and it occurred to me that this truly is 'Telco Grade
equipment'.
After seeing what the Telco Guys use, and watching how they work,
I can only
imagine that this equipment is specifically designed for use by
people 'paid
by the hour', Probably at Union scale.

Well, I've programmed a radio, and assembled a dish, Time for a break
before I go to install it

I'm guessing there's some sort of regulation specifying how long
it needs to
take to assemble equipment so that job's aren't done 'too quick'
so it can
easily fill an entire day.

/Weekly Rant


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Re: [AFMUG] Weekly EPMP Rant

2015-03-27 Thread Nate Burke
Ok, so you're just at the Minimum GUI display specs.  That should be 
somewhat manageable then.



On 3/27/2015 1:31 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
Actually I'm using the server (quadcore Xeon 18 GHz with 32GB of 
memory) so it only takes me a minute or two to load the interface.



Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Nate Burke n...@blastcomm.com 
mailto:n...@blastcomm.com wrote:


Better Start loading the webpage now then


On 3/27/2015 1:25 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

BRB calling ePMP support to improve my configured link?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 2:20 PM, Tyson Burris @ Internet
Communications Inc t...@franklinisp.net
mailto:t...@franklinisp.net wrote:

Here is my ePMP Rant:

1. Give me alignment tone.  That is all.
2. Yesterday Cambium was looking at a throughput issue
(probably Ethernet)
on one of our Force 110 links.  I was told we had the best
configured ePMP
PTP link ever seen worldwide.

Not sure what to think about that comment.  Do I brag about
it or do I run
like hell.


Tyson Burris, President
Internet Communications Inc.
739 Commerce Dr.
Franklin, IN 46131

317-738-0320 tel:317-738-0320 Daytime #
317-412-1540 tel:317-412-1540 Cell/Direct #
Online: www.surfici.net http://www.surfici.net


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-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Nate Burke
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 11:09 AM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: [AFMUG] Weekly EPMP Rant

Weekly Rant
So I'm whiling away the hours programming EPMP radios and
assembling Force
Dishes, and it occurred to me that this truly is 'Telco Grade
equipment'.
After seeing what the Telco Guys use, and watching how they
work, I can only
imagine that this equipment is specifically designed for use
by people 'paid
by the hour', Probably at Union scale.

Well, I've programmed a radio, and assembled a dish, Time
for a break
before I go to install it

I'm guessing there's some sort of regulation specifying how
long it needs to
take to assemble equipment so that job's aren't done 'too
quick' so it can
easily fill an entire day.

/Weekly Rant


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