Re: [AFMUG] New IP block

[Mark Radabaugh]

For Akamai try emailing nocc-...@akamai.com <mailto:nocc-...@akamai.com> to 
open a ticket with them.  Might get you somewhere.

Mark 


> On Apr 3, 2017, at 2:25 AM, Jason McKemie <j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> So, a couple questions on the GeoIP information.
> 
> Where do you update the GeoIP information for Google?  I can't seem to find 
> anywhere to look it up.
> 
> Same goes for Akamai.
> 
> www.geoiptool.com <http://www.geoiptool.com/> is listing my block as being in 
> Northbrook, IL although I'm not sure what database they're pulling from to 
> update.  
> 
> All the other sites that I've been able to check are showing the correct 
> information.
> 
> -Jason
> 
> On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 10:13 PM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net 
> <mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote:
> The list I remember was more extensive, but here's one that's ringing a bell.
> 
> 
> https://web-beta.archive.org/web/20130122055317/http://nanog.cluepon.net/index.php/GeoIP
>  
> <https://web-beta.archive.org/web/20130122055317/http://nanog.cluepon.net/index.php/GeoIP>
> 
> 
> 
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>  <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> 
> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> 
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> 
> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>  <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> 
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> 
> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>  <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
> 
> 
>  <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> From: "Sterling Jacobson" <sterl...@avative.net <mailto:sterl...@avative.net>>
> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
> Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 8:38:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New IP block
> 
> 
> There is also a list of geo response sites that you should make sure are 
> updated with your new geo information for your block.
> 
>  
> I didn’t know about that and all of the major streaming services banned all 
> of my blocks one day, causing a ton of phone calls.
> 
>  
> It cost me a few customers and lots of grief with a handful of streaming 
> service (mostly VUDU, they were the worst).
> 
>  
> Apparently most if not all of these streaming services use a handful of these 
> geo services/databases to determine if your IP address/block is out of 
> country or area.
> 
>  
> Then they blacklist the entire IP block in their systems.
> 
>  
> They thought ALL of my customers were doing VPNs from some other country.
> 
>  
> Though I never figured out where they thought it was from and ARIN had all my 
> correct info.
> 
>  
> I had to talk to each provider directly, and update a few of these main GEO 
> services directly.
> 
>  
> Eventually, like as in months, it worked out and I no longer have those 
> problems.
> 
>  
>  
>  
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On 
> Behalf Of Jason McKemie
> Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 6:17 PM
> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
> Subject: [AFMUG] New IP block
> 
>  
> So, Paul's thread has me a bit concerned about activating a new IP block that 
> I got through ARIN. Up to this point I've just used addresses delegated by my 
> upstream​. In the next few weeks I'm going to be bringing my own addresses 
> on-net.
> 
>  
> Anyone have a "checklist" of things that need be done to get this working 
> correctly?
> 
> 
> 

Re: [AFMUG] New IP block

[Jason McKemie]

So, a couple questions on the GeoIP information.

Where do you update the GeoIP information for Google?  I can't seem to find
anywhere to look it up.

Same goes for Akamai.

www.geoiptool.com is listing my block as being in Northbrook, IL although
I'm not sure what database they're pulling from to update.

All the other sites that I've been able to check are showing the correct
information.

-Jason

On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 10:13 PM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:

> The list I remember was more extensive, but here's one that's ringing a
> bell.
>
>
> https://web-beta.archive.org/web/20130122055317/http://
> nanog.cluepon.net/index.php/GeoIP
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>
>
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> ------------------
> *From: *"Sterling Jacobson" <sterl...@avative.net>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Friday, March 31, 2017 8:38:03 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] New IP block
>
>
> There is also a list of geo response sites that you should make sure are
> updated with your new geo information for your block.
>
>
>
> I didn’t know about that and all of the major streaming services banned
> all of my blocks one day, causing a ton of phone calls.
>
>
>
> It cost me a few customers and lots of grief with a handful of streaming
> service (mostly VUDU, they were the worst).
>
>
>
> Apparently most if not all of these streaming services use a handful of
> these geo services/databases to determine if your IP address/block is out
> of country or area.
>
>
>
> Then they blacklist the entire IP block in their systems.
>
>
>
> They thought ALL of my customers were doing VPNs from some other country.
>
>
>
> Though I never figured out where they thought it was from and ARIN had all
> my correct info.
>
>
>
> I had to talk to each provider directly, and update a few of these main
> GEO services directly.
>
>
>
> Eventually, like as in months, it worked out and I no longer have those
> problems.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jason McKemie
> *Sent:* Friday, March 31, 2017 6:17 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] New IP block
>
>
>
> So, Paul's thread has me a bit concerned about activating a new IP block
> that I got through ARIN. Up to this point I've just used addresses
> delegated by my upstream​. In the next few weeks I'm going to be bringing
> my own addresses on-net.
>
>
>
> Anyone have a "checklist" of things that need be done to get this working
> correctly?
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] New IP block

[Justin Wilson]

For new IP blocks it is great for letting you know if someone else is 
advertising it somewhere without digging through the global routing table.
Justin Wilson
j...@mtin.net

---
http://www.mtin.net Owner/CEO
xISP Solutions- Consulting – Data Centers - Bandwidth

http://www.midwest-ix.com  COO/Chairman
Internet Exchange - Peering - Distributed Fabric

> On Apr 1, 2017, at 2:05 AM, George Skorup  wrote:
> 
> Prefix hijack notifications, peer changes, etc. Hijack includes more specific 
> advertisements. Say you have a /22 and some dickbag starts advertising one of 
> your /24s.
> 
> On 4/1/2017 12:42 AM, Jason McKemie wrote:
>> What does BGPmon do exactly?
> 

Re: [AFMUG] New IP block

[George Skorup]

Prefix hijack notifications, peer changes, etc. Hijack includes more 
specific advertisements. Say you have a /22 and some dickbag starts 
advertising one of your /24s.


On 4/1/2017 12:42 AM, Jason McKemie wrote:

What does BGPmon do exactly?

Re: [AFMUG] New IP block

[Jason McKemie]

Thanks for the replies.

I bought the IPs at auction, so they were assigned elsewhere previously.
All POC information has been updated. I'm going to have DNS setup sometime
soon, but my email is run on Google Apps, so I don't think that will be
necessary - correct me if I am wrong. What does BGPmon do exactly?

On Friday, March 31, 2017, Justin Wilson  wrote:

> 1.If you can research where the block came from that will help.  Was it
> assigned somewhere else? Or is it part of space IANA released?
> 2.Make sure your POCs are up to date.
> 3.Make sure you have a reverse DNS server setup.  Very important if you
> have mail servers you are going to put on these blocks.
> 4.Once you have the blocks notify your upstreams.
> 5.Subscribe to something like BGPmon to make your life simpler.
>
> Just some things off the top of my head.
>
>
>
> Justin Wilson
> j...@mtin.net 
>
> ---
> http://www.mtin.net Owner/CEO
> xISP Solutions- Consulting – Data Centers - Bandwidth
>
> http://www.midwest-ix.com  COO/Chairman
> Internet Exchange - Peering - Distributed Fabric
>
> > On Mar 31, 2017, at 8:17 PM, Jason McKemie <
> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com > wrote:
> >
> > So, Paul's thread has me a bit concerned about activating a new IP block
> that I got through ARIN. Up to this point I've just used addresses
> delegated by my upstream​. In the next few weeks I'm going to be bringing
> my own addresses on-net.
> >
> > Anyone have a "checklist" of things that need be done to get this
> working correctly?
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] New IP block

[Mike Hammett]

The list I remember was more extensive, but here's one that's ringing a bell. 


https://web-beta.archive.org/web/20130122055317/http://nanog.cluepon.net/index.php/GeoIP
 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Sterling Jacobson" <sterl...@avative.net> 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 8:38:03 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New IP block 



There is also a list of geo response sites that you should make sure are 
updated with your new geo information for your block. 

I didn’t know about that and all of the major streaming services banned all of 
my blocks one day, causing a ton of phone calls. 

It cost me a few customers and lots of grief with a handful of streaming 
service (mostly VUDU, they were the worst). 

Apparently most if not all of these streaming services use a handful of these 
geo services/databases to determine if your IP address/block is out of country 
or area. 

Then they blacklist the entire IP block in their systems. 

They thought ALL of my customers were doing VPNs from some other country. 

Though I never figured out where they thought it was from and ARIN had all my 
correct info. 

I had to talk to each provider directly, and update a few of these main GEO 
services directly. 

Eventually, like as in months, it worked out and I no longer have those 
problems. 



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jason McKemie 
Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 6:17 PM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] New IP block 

So, Paul's thread has me a bit concerned about activating a new IP block that I 
got through ARIN. Up to this point I've just used addresses delegated by my 
upstream​. In the next few weeks I'm going to be bringing my own addresses 
on-net. 



Anyone have a "checklist" of things that need be done to get this working 
correctly? 

Re: [AFMUG] New IP block

[Sterling Jacobson]

There is also a list of geo response sites that you should make sure are 
updated with your new geo information for your block.

I didn’t know about that and all of the major streaming services banned all of 
my blocks one day, causing a ton of phone calls.

It cost me a few customers and lots of grief with a handful of streaming 
service (mostly VUDU, they were the worst).

Apparently most if not all of these streaming services use a handful of these 
geo services/databases to determine if your IP address/block is out of country 
or area.

Then they blacklist the entire IP block in their systems.

They thought ALL of my customers were doing VPNs from some other country.

Though I never figured out where they thought it was from and ARIN had all my 
correct info.

I had to talk to each provider directly, and update a few of these main GEO 
services directly.

Eventually, like as in months, it worked out and I no longer have those 
problems.



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jason McKemie
Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 6:17 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] New IP block

So, Paul's thread has me a bit concerned about activating a new IP block that I 
got through ARIN. Up to this point I've just used addresses delegated by my 
upstream​. In the next few weeks I'm going to be bringing my own addresses 
on-net.

Anyone have a "checklist" of things that need be done to get this working 
correctly?

Re: [AFMUG] New IP block

[Erich Kaiser]

Make sure origin ASN is established correctly in Arin.


Erich Kaiser
North Central Tower
er...@northcentraltower.com
Office: 630-621-4804
Cell: 630-777-9291


On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 7:30 PM, Justin Wilson  wrote:

> 1.If you can research where the block came from that will help.  Was it
> assigned somewhere else? Or is it part of space IANA released?
> 2.Make sure your POCs are up to date.
> 3.Make sure you have a reverse DNS server setup.  Very important if you
> have mail servers you are going to put on these blocks.
> 4.Once you have the blocks notify your upstreams.
> 5.Subscribe to something like BGPmon to make your life simpler.
>
> Just some things off the top of my head.
>
>
>
> Justin Wilson
> j...@mtin.net
>
> ---
> http://www.mtin.net Owner/CEO
> xISP Solutions- Consulting – Data Centers - Bandwidth
>
> http://www.midwest-ix.com  COO/Chairman
> Internet Exchange - Peering - Distributed Fabric
>
> > On Mar 31, 2017, at 8:17 PM, Jason McKemie <
> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:
> >
> > So, Paul's thread has me a bit concerned about activating a new IP block
> that I got through ARIN. Up to this point I've just used addresses
> delegated by my upstream​. In the next few weeks I'm going to be bringing
> my own addresses on-net.
> >
> > Anyone have a "checklist" of things that need be done to get this
> working correctly?
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] New IP block

[Justin Wilson]

1.If you can research where the block came from that will help.  Was it 
assigned somewhere else? Or is it part of space IANA released?
2.Make sure your POCs are up to date.
3.Make sure you have a reverse DNS server setup.  Very important if you have 
mail servers you are going to put on these blocks.
4.Once you have the blocks notify your upstreams.  
5.Subscribe to something like BGPmon to make your life simpler.

Just some things off the top of my head.



Justin Wilson
j...@mtin.net

---
http://www.mtin.net Owner/CEO
xISP Solutions- Consulting – Data Centers - Bandwidth

http://www.midwest-ix.com  COO/Chairman
Internet Exchange - Peering - Distributed Fabric

> On Mar 31, 2017, at 8:17 PM, Jason McKemie  
> wrote:
> 
> So, Paul's thread has me a bit concerned about activating a new IP block that 
> I got through ARIN. Up to this point I've just used addresses delegated by my 
> upstream​. In the next few weeks I'm going to be bringing my own addresses 
> on-net.
> 
> Anyone have a "checklist" of things that need be done to get this working 
> correctly?