Re: [AFMUG] curious, all the spectrums throughput
Also spectrum reuse. With the narrow beam and O2 absorption, you can have a lot of 60 GHz links in an area, all using the same frequencies. But that argument is lost on the WiFi folks. And apparently the FCC folks, who are enamored with shared use but not so much with only pointing your RF where it is needed. From: Adam Moffett Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 9:23 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] curious, all the spectrums throughput Well it still needs a few constraints At a range of 3 feet I bet we can do better than 12 bits/hz and use 100ghz. I guess i needed to define better but the gist is of the usable spectrum probably less than 500gbps? On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 8:46 AM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote: What about Li-Fi? (it has to work, it’s from a TED talk) From: Chuck McCown Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 8:23 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] curious, all the spectrums throughput At a distance of 10 miles during a rain storm? From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 6:37 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] curious, all the spectrums throughput So the 31ghz and 38ghz links I installed many years ago never passed data and phone calls? I knew I was kidding myself. Jaime Solorza On Feb 16, 2015 4:45 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: The entire radio spectrum is infinite in theory as all light, xrays etc are all electromagnetic waves. The “usable” “RF” spectrum depends on range and rainfall and other factors. While some will say that 60 GHz is usable and THz frequencies are usable and free space optics in IR are usable I would limit the answer to 24 GHz. So 24 x 12 bits per hz =288 Gbps. From: That One Guy Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 4:19 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] curious, all the spectrums throughput Theoretically, based on current bits/hz maximums, and assuming there was a radio capable, and an antenna capable, with no other limitations. What is the maximum throughput of the entire Radio spectrum not going too far into details like processing overhead or any of that. -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925 -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] curious, all the spectrums throughput
I guess i needed to define better but the gist is of the usable spectrum probably less than 500gbps? On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 8:46 AM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote: What about Li-Fi? (it has to work, it’s from a TED talk) *From:* Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com *Sent:* Tuesday, February 17, 2015 8:23 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] curious, all the spectrums throughput At a distance of 10 miles during a rain storm? *From:* Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com *Sent:* Monday, February 16, 2015 6:37 PM *To:* Animal Farm af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] curious, all the spectrums throughput So the 31ghz and 38ghz links I installed many years ago never passed data and phone calls? I knew I was kidding myself. Jaime Solorza On Feb 16, 2015 4:45 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: The entire radio spectrum is infinite in theory as all light, xrays etc are all electromagnetic waves. The “usable” “RF” spectrum depends on range and rainfall and other factors. While some will say that 60 GHz is usable and THz frequencies are usable and free space optics in IR are usable I would limit the answer to 24 GHz. So 24 x 12 bits per hz =288 Gbps. *From:* That One Guy thatoneguyst...@gmail.com *Sent:* Monday, February 16, 2015 4:19 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] curious, all the spectrums throughput Theoretically, based on current bits/hz maximums, and assuming there was a radio capable, and an antenna capable, with no other limitations. What is the maximum throughput of the entire Radio spectrum not going too far into details like processing overhead or any of that. -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925 -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] curious, all the spectrums throughput
At a distance of 10 miles during a rain storm? From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 6:37 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] curious, all the spectrums throughput So the 31ghz and 38ghz links I installed many years ago never passed data and phone calls? I knew I was kidding myself. Jaime Solorza On Feb 16, 2015 4:45 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: The entire radio spectrum is infinite in theory as all light, xrays etc are all electromagnetic waves. The “usable” “RF” spectrum depends on range and rainfall and other factors. While some will say that 60 GHz is usable and THz frequencies are usable and free space optics in IR are usable I would limit the answer to 24 GHz. So 24 x 12 bits per hz =288 Gbps. From: That One Guy Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 4:19 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] curious, all the spectrums throughput Theoretically, based on current bits/hz maximums, and assuming there was a radio capable, and an antenna capable, with no other limitations. What is the maximum throughput of the entire Radio spectrum not going too far into details like processing overhead or any of that. -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] curious, all the spectrums throughput
What about Li-Fi? (it has to work, it’s from a TED talk) From: Chuck McCown Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 8:23 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] curious, all the spectrums throughput At a distance of 10 miles during a rain storm? From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 6:37 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] curious, all the spectrums throughput So the 31ghz and 38ghz links I installed many years ago never passed data and phone calls? I knew I was kidding myself. Jaime Solorza On Feb 16, 2015 4:45 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: The entire radio spectrum is infinite in theory as all light, xrays etc are all electromagnetic waves. The “usable” “RF” spectrum depends on range and rainfall and other factors. While some will say that 60 GHz is usable and THz frequencies are usable and free space optics in IR are usable I would limit the answer to 24 GHz. So 24 x 12 bits per hz =288 Gbps. From: That One Guy Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 4:19 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] curious, all the spectrums throughput Theoretically, based on current bits/hz maximums, and assuming there was a radio capable, and an antenna capable, with no other limitations. What is the maximum throughput of the entire Radio spectrum not going too far into details like processing overhead or any of that. -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] curious, all the spectrums throughput
Nope. All under 3 miles in El Paso and Cd. Juarezwe have no rain ...we are the Step child of Texas Why would we get rain! Jaime Solorza On Feb 17, 2015 7:24 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: At a distance of 10 miles during a rain storm? *From:* Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com *Sent:* Monday, February 16, 2015 6:37 PM *To:* Animal Farm af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] curious, all the spectrums throughput So the 31ghz and 38ghz links I installed many years ago never passed data and phone calls? I knew I was kidding myself. Jaime Solorza On Feb 16, 2015 4:45 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: The entire radio spectrum is infinite in theory as all light, xrays etc are all electromagnetic waves. The “usable” “RF” spectrum depends on range and rainfall and other factors. While some will say that 60 GHz is usable and THz frequencies are usable and free space optics in IR are usable I would limit the answer to 24 GHz. So 24 x 12 bits per hz =288 Gbps. *From:* That One Guy thatoneguyst...@gmail.com *Sent:* Monday, February 16, 2015 4:19 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] curious, all the spectrums throughput Theoretically, based on current bits/hz maximums, and assuming there was a radio capable, and an antenna capable, with no other limitations. What is the maximum throughput of the entire Radio spectrum not going too far into details like processing overhead or any of that. -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] curious, all the spectrums throughput
Well it still needs a few constraints At a range of 3 feet I bet we can do better than 12 bits/hz and use 100ghz. I guess i needed to define better but the gist is of the usable spectrum probably less than 500gbps? On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 8:46 AM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com mailto:af...@kwisp.com wrote: What about Li-Fi? (it has to work, it’s from a TED talk) *From:* Chuck McCown mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com *Sent:* Tuesday, February 17, 2015 8:23 AM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] curious, all the spectrums throughput At a distance of 10 miles during a rain storm? *From:* Jaime Solorza mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com *Sent:* Monday, February 16, 2015 6:37 PM *To:* Animal Farm mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] curious, all the spectrums throughput So the 31ghz and 38ghz links I installed many years ago never passed data and phone calls? I knew I was kidding myself. Jaime Solorza On Feb 16, 2015 4:45 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: The entire radio spectrum is infinite in theory as all light, xrays etc are all electromagnetic waves. The “usable” “RF” spectrum depends on range and rainfall and other factors. While some will say that 60 GHz is usable and THz frequencies are usable and free space optics in IR are usable I would limit the answer to 24 GHz. So 24 x 12 bits per hz =288 Gbps. *From:* That One Guy mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com *Sent:* Monday, February 16, 2015 4:19 PM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] curious, all the spectrums throughput Theoretically, based on current bits/hz maximums, and assuming there was a radio capable, and an antenna capable, with no other limitations. What is the maximum throughput of the entire Radio spectrum not going too far into details like processing overhead or any of that. -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925 -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] curious, all the spectrums throughput
Of course the FCC cares! They just implemented those totally realistic OOBE limits on 5ghz! /sarcasm -Ty On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 9:50 AM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote: Also spectrum reuse. With the narrow beam and O2 absorption, you can have a lot of 60 GHz links in an area, all using the same frequencies. But that argument is lost on the WiFi folks. And apparently the FCC folks, who are enamored with shared use but not so much with only pointing your RF where it is needed. *From:* Adam Moffett dmmoff...@gmail.com *Sent:* Tuesday, February 17, 2015 9:23 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] curious, all the spectrums throughput Well it still needs a few constraints At a range of 3 feet I bet we can do better than 12 bits/hz and use 100ghz. I guess i needed to define better but the gist is of the usable spectrum probably less than 500gbps? On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 8:46 AM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote: What about Li-Fi? (it has to work, it’s from a TED talk) *From:* Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com *Sent:* Tuesday, February 17, 2015 8:23 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] curious, all the spectrums throughput At a distance of 10 miles during a rain storm? *From:* Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com *Sent:* Monday, February 16, 2015 6:37 PM *To:* Animal Farm af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] curious, all the spectrums throughput So the 31ghz and 38ghz links I installed many years ago never passed data and phone calls? I knew I was kidding myself. Jaime Solorza On Feb 16, 2015 4:45 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: The entire radio spectrum is infinite in theory as all light, xrays etc are all electromagnetic waves. The “usable” “RF” spectrum depends on range and rainfall and other factors. While some will say that 60 GHz is usable and THz frequencies are usable and free space optics in IR are usable I would limit the answer to 24 GHz. So 24 x 12 bits per hz =288 Gbps. *From:* That One Guy thatoneguyst...@gmail.com *Sent:* Monday, February 16, 2015 4:19 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] curious, all the spectrums throughput Theoretically, based on current bits/hz maximums, and assuming there was a radio capable, and an antenna capable, with no other limitations. What is the maximum throughput of the entire Radio spectrum not going too far into details like processing overhead or any of that. -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925 -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] curious, all the spectrums throughput
"Some will say?" Tell that to all of the highly successful ISPs (most of whom are not stereotypical WISPs, but are 95% fiber and 5% microwave) using 60 GHz for 500 to 700 meter distances, places where it could cost $130,000 for a fiber build. 60 GHz, 1.4 GHz wide FDD channels, DQPSK modulation. Real one gig full duplex. On 2/16/15 11:45 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: The entire radio spectrum is infinite in theory as all light, xrays etc are all electromagnetic waves. The “usable” “RF” spectrum depends on range and rainfall and other factors. While some will say that 60 GHz is usable and THz frequencies are usable and free space optics in IR are usable I would limit the answer to 24 GHz. So 24 x 12 bits per hz =288 Gbps. From: That One Guy Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 4:19 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] curious, all the spectrums throughput Theoretically, based on current bits/hz maximums, and assuming there was a radio capable, and an antenna capable, with no other limitations. What is the maximum throughput of the entire Radio spectrum not going too far into details like processing overhead or any of that. -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] curious, all the spectrums throughput
And one strand of fiber? Probably not far from the same by the end of the decade. 100Gbps already exists. On 2/16/2015 5:45 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: The entire radio spectrum is infinite in theory as all light, xrays etc are all electromagnetic waves. The “usable” “RF” spectrum depends on range and rainfall and other factors. While some will say that 60 GHz is usable and THz frequencies are usable and free space optics in IR are usable I would limit the answer to 24 GHz. So 24 x 12 bits per hz =288 Gbps. *From:* That One Guy mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com *Sent:* Monday, February 16, 2015 4:19 PM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] curious, all the spectrums throughput Theoretically, based on current bits/hz maximums, and assuming there was a radio capable, and an antenna capable, with no other limitations. What is the maximum throughput of the entire Radio spectrum not going too far into details like processing overhead or any of that. -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] curious, all the spectrums throughput
Douglas Adams had the answer years ago. 42 bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On 2/16/2015 3:19 PM, That One Guy wrote: Theoretically, based on current bits/hz maximums, and assuming there was a radio capable, and an antenna capable, with no other limitations. What is the maximum throughput of the entire Radio spectrum not going too far into details like processing overhead or any of that. -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] curious, all the spectrums throughput
The entire radio spectrum is infinite in theory as all light, xrays etc are all electromagnetic waves. The “usable” “RF” spectrum depends on range and rainfall and other factors. While some will say that 60 GHz is usable and THz frequencies are usable and free space optics in IR are usable I would limit the answer to 24 GHz. So 24 x 12 bits per hz =288 Gbps. From: That One Guy Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 4:19 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] curious, all the spectrums throughput Theoretically, based on current bits/hz maximums, and assuming there was a radio capable, and an antenna capable, with no other limitations. What is the maximum throughput of the entire Radio spectrum not going too far into details like processing overhead or any of that. -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] curious, all the spectrums throughput
The entire radio spectrum? From dc to daylight? I don't think anyone can answer that question for you On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 3:19 PM, That One Guy thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote: Theoretically, based on current bits/hz maximums, and assuming there was a radio capable, and an antenna capable, with no other limitations. What is the maximum throughput of the entire Radio spectrum not going too far into details like processing overhead or any of that. -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] curious, all the spectrums throughput
Multiply that by about 300 (largest WDM platform I've heard of). - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 5:50:16 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] curious, all the spectrums throughput And one strand of fiber? Probably not far from the same by the end of the decade. 100Gbps already exists. On 2/16/2015 5:45 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: The entire radio spectrum is infinite in theory as all light, xrays etc are all electromagnetic waves. The “usable” “RF” spectrum depends on range and rainfall and other factors. While some will say that 60 GHz is usable and THz frequencies are usable and free space optics in IR are usable I would limit the answer to 24 GHz. So 24 x 12 bits per hz =288 Gbps. From: That One Guy Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 4:19 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] curious, all the spectrums throughput Theoretically, based on current bits/hz maximums, and assuming there was a radio capable, and an antenna capable, with no other limitations. What is the maximum throughput of the entire Radio spectrum not going too far into details like processing overhead or any of that. -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] curious, all the spectrums throughput
I'm guessing you head to infinity on that one. The shortest wavelength is 1.616 x 10^-35 meters or a frequency of 1.8552 x 10^43 Hz. Unfortunately the amount of energy required to create that frequency also results in the creation of a black hole and your transmitter disappears. Mark On 2/16/15 6:19 PM, That One Guy wrote: Theoretically, based on current bits/hz maximums, and assuming there was a radio capable, and an antenna capable, with no other limitations. What is the maximum throughput of the entire Radio spectrum not going too far into details like processing overhead or any of that. -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925 -- Mark Radabaugh Amplex m...@amplex.net 419.837.5015 x 1021
Re: [AFMUG] curious, all the spectrums throughput
So the 31ghz and 38ghz links I installed many years ago never passed data and phone calls? I knew I was kidding myself. Jaime Solorza On Feb 16, 2015 4:45 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: The entire radio spectrum is infinite in theory as all light, xrays etc are all electromagnetic waves. The “usable” “RF” spectrum depends on range and rainfall and other factors. While some will say that 60 GHz is usable and THz frequencies are usable and free space optics in IR are usable I would limit the answer to 24 GHz. So 24 x 12 bits per hz =288 Gbps. *From:* That One Guy thatoneguyst...@gmail.com *Sent:* Monday, February 16, 2015 4:19 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] curious, all the spectrums throughput Theoretically, based on current bits/hz maximums, and assuming there was a radio capable, and an antenna capable, with no other limitations. What is the maximum throughput of the entire Radio spectrum not going too far into details like processing overhead or any of that. -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] curious, all the spectrums throughput
Afaik its 400 gbps Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr From: geo...@cbcast.commailto:geo...@cbcast.com geo...@cbcast.commailto:geo...@cbcast.com Reply-To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Date: Monday, February 16, 2015 at 7:50 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] curious, all the spectrums throughput And one strand of fiber? Probably not far from the same by the end of the decade. 100Gbps already exists. On 2/16/2015 5:45 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: The entire radio spectrum is infinite in theory as all light, xrays etc are all electromagnetic waves. The “usable” “RF” spectrum depends on range and rainfall and other factors. While some will say that 60 GHz is usable and THz frequencies are usable and free space optics in IR are usable I would limit the answer to 24 GHz. So 24 x 12 bits per hz =288 Gbps. From: That One Guymailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 4:19 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] curious, all the spectrums throughput Theoretically, based on current bits/hz maximums, and assuming there was a radio capable, and an antenna capable, with no other limitations. What is the maximum throughput of the entire Radio spectrum not going too far into details like processing overhead or any of that. -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] curious, all the spectrums throughput
Oh, yeah, photon energy. I forgot about that. So there is an upper limit. From: Mark Radabaugh Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 5:00 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] curious, all the spectrums throughput I'm guessing you head to infinity on that one. The shortest wavelength is 1.616 x 10^-35 meters or a frequency of 1.8552 x 10^43 Hz.Unfortunately the amount of energy required to create that frequency also results in the creation of a black hole and your transmitter disappears. Mark On 2/16/15 6:19 PM, That One Guy wrote: Theoretically, based on current bits/hz maximums, and assuming there was a radio capable, and an antenna capable, with no other limitations. What is the maximum throughput of the entire Radio spectrum not going too far into details like processing overhead or any of that. -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925 -- Mark Radabaugh Amplex m...@amplex.net 419.837.5015 x 1021