Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review
Around here Tuesday in Huber is $5 and Wednesday at the Greene is $5. All day. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 6:24 PM, Nate Burke n...@blastcomm.com wrote: Wow, $6, I think that's how much the 2nd run theater by us. Regular tickets are $15+ On 1/3/2015 5:18 PM, Paul McCall wrote: At $ 6 per movie, per person (normal theatre prices), I would have to want to see 5 movies a month to break even. I don’t think there is 1 movie per month that is worth seeing, LOL *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof via Af *Sent:* Thursday, January 01, 2015 11:42 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review https://www.moviepass.com/ I saw an article that AMC was taking it. *From:* Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Thursday, January 01, 2015 10:39 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review Check around where you live. The Salt Lake Film Society screens stuff you don’t get from the major distribution companies. Many very popular movies start in these independent venues. And the best movies I have seen over the past year were screened only there. *From:* Tushar Patel via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Thursday, January 01, 2015 9:19 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review How do we get such pass ? Tushar On Dec 31, 2014, at 11:03 PM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote: $300/year for one or $500 for two. If I use the tickets once a week it saves plenty of money. Sometimes I see two a week. Free popcorn is included. *From:* Tushar Patel via Af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Wednesday, December 31, 2014 9:55 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review I had always wondered about you going to movie almost every week. Now it make more sense. Tushar On Dec 31, 2014, at 8:35 PM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Wild Meh ++ OK, but I have a season pass at the theater. I would not recommend paying full fare.
Re: [AFMUG] WBMFG quality going up! Buy buy buy!
That's kind of expected for this market... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 23, 2015 1:01 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Vendors hate when I say this, but MSRP is almost never the price you pay. There are almost always nice discounts off of MSRP for all products from all vendors. Just the way the game is played. *From:* That One Guy thatoneguyst...@gmail.com *Sent:* Friday, January 23, 2015 10:43 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] WBMFG quality going up! Buy buy buy! :-) you didnt change prices, our vendor was mistakenly selling them at a loss On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 10:47 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: As far as I know, we have not changed prices in a couple of years. *From:* That One Guy thatoneguyst...@gmail.com *Sent:* Thursday, January 22, 2015 11:43 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] WBMFG quality going up! Buy buy buy! we were robbing the angled clamp from sitepro upc1 to fot the angle on the elevator platforms, then a backer pipe inside. but it turned out we were getting the mtows way cheaper than we were supposed to, when the price went to msrp, we went exclusively to upc1. wanna bet which sites will fail first? i really liked the mtows On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 12:02 AM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: On our grain elevator (almost identical), I drilled holes through the railing and used U-bolts to mount pipes. It worked out slick. I don't have a closeup handy. On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 9:22 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote: Note these are formed heavy sheet metal and you can’t just crank a clamp made for a round pipe down on them. *From:* Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com *Sent:* Thursday, January 22, 2015 8:54 PM *To:* af af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] WBMFG quality going up! Buy buy buy! Yes! that could be very useful. On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 7:26 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote: How about MTOW or pipe-to-pipe-clamp variants to attach to the L and U channels we find on some grain legs, both vertical and horizontal, could also be used to attach pipes to various handrails. *From:* Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *Sent:* Thursday, January 22, 2015 6:57 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] WBMFG quality going up! Buy buy buy! Wisp boxes. I like that. Built in DIN. On Jan 22, 2015 7:49 PM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote: How about larger pipes on the mounts? Like a 2-3? Sector Frames? I know you do injection molding for your antennas, have you ever thought about doing NEMA style boxes? Just some ideas to throw around... Regards, Chuck On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 4:14 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Thanks, wish I could take total credit. The quality of the hot dip galvanize job is a bit out of our hands. The amount of dross on the pot, temperature of the day, mix of zinc and other things as well as freshness of the pickling tank and pickling time all go into the quality of the galvanization and we farm that out to a local company. We have been working on the fit and inspection. I appreciate the note, we do try. And we are always up for making other hot dipped tower products. Anyone want us to add to the product line, let me know and I will see if I can improve on the price or performance on any other product out in the world. I prefer to do custom stuff nobody else does, but I am not above knocking off something if I can offer something in the way of design improvement or cost reduction. *From:* Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *Sent:* Thursday, January 22, 2015 1:25 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] WBMFG quality going up! Buy buy buy! Props to WB for improving their MTOWs. Most notably the cleaner galvanizing and the hardware fitting together perfectly. Not a huge difference since these products have already been great, but the quality bonus is noticeable and appreciated! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925 -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] UBNT NanoStation MIB
I don't run 900 at all. My only 5.6beta is a ptp to my house. It's working there very well. I'm not one to throw a beta at customers unless I have to. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 23, 2015 11:37 AM, Eric Muehleisen ericm...@gmail.com wrote: Looking through the forum 5.6beta9 is the latest. You feel it's stable enough to run production for a few M9's and hand full of subscribers? On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 10:30 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: 5.6beta and up yes. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 23, 2015 11:28 AM, Eric Muehleisen ericm...@gmail.com wrote: Does a MIB exist for the Nanostation?
Re: [AFMUG] UBNT NanoStation MIB
Give it a shot, if you feel SNMP is a problem that out weights beta labeled firmware. It's Ubnt so even without the beta sticker it's not really stable stable anyway. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 23, 2015 11:50 AM, Eric Muehleisen ericm...@gmail.com wrote: No SNMP reporting is a problem. On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 10:45 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: I don't run 900 at all. My only 5.6beta is a ptp to my house. It's working there very well. I'm not one to throw a beta at customers unless I have to. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 23, 2015 11:37 AM, Eric Muehleisen ericm...@gmail.com wrote: Looking through the forum 5.6beta9 is the latest. You feel it's stable enough to run production for a few M9's and hand full of subscribers? On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 10:30 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: 5.6beta and up yes. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 23, 2015 11:28 AM, Eric Muehleisen ericm...@gmail.com wrote: Does a MIB exist for the Nanostation?
Re: [AFMUG] Gmail bounces/ unsubscribed ?
Working for me. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 23, 2015 11:51 AM, TJ Trout t...@voltbb.com wrote: What gives?
Re: [AFMUG] UBNT NanoStation MIB
Well there's MT stable, Ubnt stable, stable stable, etc. Like carrier class. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 23, 2015 11:58 AM, Eric Muehleisen ericm...@gmail.com wrote: ha...stable stable. On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 10:55 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Give it a shot, if you feel SNMP is a problem that out weights beta labeled firmware. It's Ubnt so even without the beta sticker it's not really stable stable anyway. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 23, 2015 11:50 AM, Eric Muehleisen ericm...@gmail.com wrote: No SNMP reporting is a problem. On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 10:45 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: I don't run 900 at all. My only 5.6beta is a ptp to my house. It's working there very well. I'm not one to throw a beta at customers unless I have to. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 23, 2015 11:37 AM, Eric Muehleisen ericm...@gmail.com wrote: Looking through the forum 5.6beta9 is the latest. You feel it's stable enough to run production for a few M9's and hand full of subscribers? On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 10:30 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: 5.6beta and up yes. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 23, 2015 11:28 AM, Eric Muehleisen ericm...@gmail.com wrote: Does a MIB exist for the Nanostation?
Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee
Did you test it in a lab first? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 1:53 PM, Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net wrote: Maybe but considering it's the first one I've purchased but doesn't make me very excited about it Sent from my iPhone On Jan 23, 2015, at 12:46, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: DOA maybe? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 23, 2015 1:43 PM, Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net wrote: Couldn't get it to stay connected long enough to run one tried running a speed test a couple of times and it would vary anywhere from two mag to 30 meg before it would drop Sent from my iPhone On Jan 23, 2015, at 12:41, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Did you ever do a link test with epmp? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 23, 2015 1:15 PM, Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net wrote: Ok so I go to the tower today replace the Epmp AP with a Rocket M2 on the same antenna (Dual slant) and test with a Nano M2 at the same place I tested yesterday. I get -44 signal 95% Quality and 96% capacity and speedtests as pictured. What is the problem with the EPMP equipment. So far I am not impressed. IF the EPMP thinks the noise floor is -60 ish and a UBNT has no problem getting great thoughput I guess we will stick with the UBNT -- *From: *Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Friday, January 23, 2015 6:25:52 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Ok so as an experiment I moved my 2.4 FSK omni to the same channel that this EPMP sector was on at the same height on the same tower. All 41 customers reconnected to the fsk omni and all link tests are in the upper 95% and better on all customers So why would this spectrum be so dirty for the 90 degree EPMP sector but usable and great link tests for the FSK omni at the same height.? -- *From: *Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, January 22, 2015 8:24:27 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Cant use 5Ghz All my BH links are in 5ghz and I cant get though trees with 5ghz. 90% of my customer base is behind trees. This is not the tower I plan on leaving it on. But I dont understand why the noise floor would be that high here. It is 3 miles from any town and sits in the middle of nothing. Cow pastures all around. Unless the cows are carrying wireless routers?? -- *From: *John Woodfield john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, January 22, 2015 8:12:39 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee I would suggest 5ghz. Thats is stupid high for 2.4... John Woodfield Delmarva WiFi http://www.delmarvawifi.com cell (410) 708-1937 -Original Message- From: Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 9:07pm To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Yes I'm using a 90° sector and that AP is 180 feet up Sent from my iPhone On Jan 22, 2015, at 19:28, John Woodfield john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz wrote: That noise floor is horrible. I usually don't see it that bad even at 200' in the air. Are you using a sector? John Woodfield Delmarva WiFi http://www.delmarvawifi.com cell (410) 708-1937 -Original Message- From: Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 7:59pm To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Yes sorry. Capacity is bad. Quality is good Sent from my iPhone On Jan 22, 2015, at 18:57, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Quality? On Jan 22, 2015 7:39 PM, Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net wrote: Ok done. I have a -56 signal at the SM attached is a screenshot of the analysis. -75 around the channel that I am on with the apj So that is not the problem. Why would I have only 15% to 40% uplink capacity when I have 95-100% capacity and a -56 signal -- *From: *Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, January 22, 2015 6:20:07 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Have Java installed, run that program. Connect to that radio. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, January 22, 2015 5:55:54 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee So I switch the AP to Spectrum analyzer mode and reboot. Got to the spec analyzer tab and click download
Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee
Did you ever do a link test with epmp? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 23, 2015 1:15 PM, Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net wrote: Ok so I go to the tower today replace the Epmp AP with a Rocket M2 on the same antenna (Dual slant) and test with a Nano M2 at the same place I tested yesterday. I get -44 signal 95% Quality and 96% capacity and speedtests as pictured. What is the problem with the EPMP equipment. So far I am not impressed. IF the EPMP thinks the noise floor is -60 ish and a UBNT has no problem getting great thoughput I guess we will stick with the UBNT -- *From: *Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Friday, January 23, 2015 6:25:52 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Ok so as an experiment I moved my 2.4 FSK omni to the same channel that this EPMP sector was on at the same height on the same tower. All 41 customers reconnected to the fsk omni and all link tests are in the upper 95% and better on all customers So why would this spectrum be so dirty for the 90 degree EPMP sector but usable and great link tests for the FSK omni at the same height.? -- *From: *Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, January 22, 2015 8:24:27 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Cant use 5Ghz All my BH links are in 5ghz and I cant get though trees with 5ghz. 90% of my customer base is behind trees. This is not the tower I plan on leaving it on. But I dont understand why the noise floor would be that high here. It is 3 miles from any town and sits in the middle of nothing. Cow pastures all around. Unless the cows are carrying wireless routers?? -- *From: *John Woodfield john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, January 22, 2015 8:12:39 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee I would suggest 5ghz. Thats is stupid high for 2.4... John Woodfield Delmarva WiFi http://www.delmarvawifi.com cell (410) 708-1937 -Original Message- From: Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 9:07pm To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Yes I'm using a 90° sector and that AP is 180 feet up Sent from my iPhone On Jan 22, 2015, at 19:28, John Woodfield john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz wrote: That noise floor is horrible. I usually don't see it that bad even at 200' in the air. Are you using a sector? John Woodfield Delmarva WiFi http://www.delmarvawifi.com cell (410) 708-1937 -Original Message- From: Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 7:59pm To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Yes sorry. Capacity is bad. Quality is good Sent from my iPhone On Jan 22, 2015, at 18:57, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Quality? On Jan 22, 2015 7:39 PM, Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net wrote: Ok done. I have a -56 signal at the SM attached is a screenshot of the analysis. -75 around the channel that I am on with the apj So that is not the problem. Why would I have only 15% to 40% uplink capacity when I have 95-100% capacity and a -56 signal -- *From: *Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, January 22, 2015 6:20:07 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Have Java installed, run that program. Connect to that radio. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, January 22, 2015 5:55:54 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee So I switch the AP to Spectrum analyzer mode and reboot. Got to the spec analyzer tab and click download tool. How do I use it. It is a separate utility that my laptop doesn't know how to use the file? -- *From: *Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, January 22, 2015 5:39:34 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Monitor wireless might have a scan what you're after. I think that's only compatible (ie TDD OR wifi not both) networks seen. Uplink issue, noise and all that basic rf stuff? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 22, 2015 6:07 PM, Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net wrote: I've been using cambium/Motorola FSK products now for 10 years but the EPMP product has a few things that I can't quite get to work The main one that concerns me is that I'm using an integrated SM and at any distance from the tower I
Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee
DOA maybe? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 23, 2015 1:43 PM, Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net wrote: Couldn't get it to stay connected long enough to run one tried running a speed test a couple of times and it would vary anywhere from two mag to 30 meg before it would drop Sent from my iPhone On Jan 23, 2015, at 12:41, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Did you ever do a link test with epmp? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 23, 2015 1:15 PM, Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net wrote: Ok so I go to the tower today replace the Epmp AP with a Rocket M2 on the same antenna (Dual slant) and test with a Nano M2 at the same place I tested yesterday. I get -44 signal 95% Quality and 96% capacity and speedtests as pictured. What is the problem with the EPMP equipment. So far I am not impressed. IF the EPMP thinks the noise floor is -60 ish and a UBNT has no problem getting great thoughput I guess we will stick with the UBNT -- *From: *Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Friday, January 23, 2015 6:25:52 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Ok so as an experiment I moved my 2.4 FSK omni to the same channel that this EPMP sector was on at the same height on the same tower. All 41 customers reconnected to the fsk omni and all link tests are in the upper 95% and better on all customers So why would this spectrum be so dirty for the 90 degree EPMP sector but usable and great link tests for the FSK omni at the same height.? -- *From: *Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, January 22, 2015 8:24:27 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Cant use 5Ghz All my BH links are in 5ghz and I cant get though trees with 5ghz. 90% of my customer base is behind trees. This is not the tower I plan on leaving it on. But I dont understand why the noise floor would be that high here. It is 3 miles from any town and sits in the middle of nothing. Cow pastures all around. Unless the cows are carrying wireless routers?? -- *From: *John Woodfield john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, January 22, 2015 8:12:39 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee I would suggest 5ghz. Thats is stupid high for 2.4... John Woodfield Delmarva WiFi http://www.delmarvawifi.com cell (410) 708-1937 -Original Message- From: Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 9:07pm To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Yes I'm using a 90° sector and that AP is 180 feet up Sent from my iPhone On Jan 22, 2015, at 19:28, John Woodfield john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz wrote: That noise floor is horrible. I usually don't see it that bad even at 200' in the air. Are you using a sector? John Woodfield Delmarva WiFi http://www.delmarvawifi.com cell (410) 708-1937 -Original Message- From: Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 7:59pm To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Yes sorry. Capacity is bad. Quality is good Sent from my iPhone On Jan 22, 2015, at 18:57, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Quality? On Jan 22, 2015 7:39 PM, Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net wrote: Ok done. I have a -56 signal at the SM attached is a screenshot of the analysis. -75 around the channel that I am on with the apj So that is not the problem. Why would I have only 15% to 40% uplink capacity when I have 95-100% capacity and a -56 signal -- *From: *Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, January 22, 2015 6:20:07 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Have Java installed, run that program. Connect to that radio. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, January 22, 2015 5:55:54 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee So I switch the AP to Spectrum analyzer mode and reboot. Got to the spec analyzer tab and click download tool. How do I use it. It is a separate utility that my laptop doesn't know how to use the file? -- *From: *Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, January 22, 2015 5:39:34 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Monitor wireless might have a scan what you're after. I think that's only compatible (ie TDD OR wifi not both) networks seen
Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee
3 feet apart you may have blown the radios. Did you have antennas hooked up? I think once it gets hit with -10 it would have caused damage, I don't think it matters the duration. Could be wrong. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 2:07 PM, Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net wrote: I got them to link up on my living room floor before I took them to the tower same as those the signal was pretty good there but I was also 3 feet from it I remember pulling the plug pretty quick when I saw them link up because I was worried about how hot the link was Sent from my iPhone On Jan 23, 2015, at 13:05, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Did you test it in a lab first? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 1:53 PM, Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net wrote: Maybe but considering it's the first one I've purchased but doesn't make me very excited about it Sent from my iPhone On Jan 23, 2015, at 12:46, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: DOA maybe? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 23, 2015 1:43 PM, Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net wrote: Couldn't get it to stay connected long enough to run one tried running a speed test a couple of times and it would vary anywhere from two mag to 30 meg before it would drop Sent from my iPhone On Jan 23, 2015, at 12:41, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Did you ever do a link test with epmp? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 23, 2015 1:15 PM, Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net wrote: Ok so I go to the tower today replace the Epmp AP with a Rocket M2 on the same antenna (Dual slant) and test with a Nano M2 at the same place I tested yesterday. I get -44 signal 95% Quality and 96% capacity and speedtests as pictured. What is the problem with the EPMP equipment. So far I am not impressed. IF the EPMP thinks the noise floor is -60 ish and a UBNT has no problem getting great thoughput I guess we will stick with the UBNT -- *From: *Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Friday, January 23, 2015 6:25:52 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Ok so as an experiment I moved my 2.4 FSK omni to the same channel that this EPMP sector was on at the same height on the same tower. All 41 customers reconnected to the fsk omni and all link tests are in the upper 95% and better on all customers So why would this spectrum be so dirty for the 90 degree EPMP sector but usable and great link tests for the FSK omni at the same height.? -- *From: *Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, January 22, 2015 8:24:27 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Cant use 5Ghz All my BH links are in 5ghz and I cant get though trees with 5ghz. 90% of my customer base is behind trees. This is not the tower I plan on leaving it on. But I dont understand why the noise floor would be that high here. It is 3 miles from any town and sits in the middle of nothing. Cow pastures all around. Unless the cows are carrying wireless routers?? -- *From: *John Woodfield john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, January 22, 2015 8:12:39 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee I would suggest 5ghz. Thats is stupid high for 2.4... John Woodfield Delmarva WiFi http://www.delmarvawifi.com cell (410) 708-1937 -Original Message- From: Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 9:07pm To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Yes I'm using a 90° sector and that AP is 180 feet up Sent from my iPhone On Jan 22, 2015, at 19:28, John Woodfield john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz wrote: That noise floor is horrible. I usually don't see it that bad even at 200' in the air. Are you using a sector? John Woodfield Delmarva WiFi http://www.delmarvawifi.com cell (410) 708-1937 -Original Message- From: Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 7:59pm To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Epmp newbee Yes sorry. Capacity is bad. Quality is good Sent from my iPhone On Jan 22, 2015, at 18:57, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Quality? On Jan 22, 2015 7:39 PM, Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net wrote: Ok done. I have a -56 signal at the SM attached is a screenshot of the analysis. -75 around the channel that I am on with the apj So that is not the problem. Why would I have only 15% to 40% uplink capacity when I have 95-100% capacity and a -56 signal
Re: [AFMUG] What are you using for gig poe injection?
Gig syncinjector from Packetflux You could also do Gig POE injector, but why stock two devices Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 2:35 PM, TJ Trout t...@voltbb.com wrote: What are you guys using for gigabit poe injection? 450 = syncinjector? Ctm? Cmm? Ubnt, epmp = gig-poe-apc? Packet flux 8ch? Tough switch? Wisp switch?
Re: [AFMUG] Cable reel stand for tower work
That works too, but not too well. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 23, 2015 5:41 PM, That One Guy thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote: broomstick in a step ladder or mast between the back doors of the van if the douchebag tech pulled the standsd out and didnt put it back On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 4:29 PM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote: We made a stand from unistrut and pipe. Adjustable for different size spools ...from LMR 400 to large Heliax spools. We used earth anchors to keep it from falling. We also had wooden ones for 1000 ft rolls of guyed wire...electrical houses carry the attachments and bracelets for C channel/ unistrut Jaime Solorza On Jan 23, 2015 3:13 PM, Caleb Knauer cknauer.li...@gmail.com wrote: Any suggestions for a cable reel stand for spooling cable/coax out on a tower run? Our improvised methods need updating, and my google-fu is weak and I'm only finding either junk or stuff that's way too expensive. Think a pair of jack stands with a rod between them but nicer and with less falling over. -- All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
Re: [AFMUG] multiple ptp600 setup
Not sure what your problems would be. Unless they're getting at the whole which one is my master thing. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 4, 2015 10:16 AM, Ryan Mano rm...@corp.mdswireless.com wrote: Not sure I run 1 ptp 600 at 5.8 and 2x ptp230’s at 5.8 no problems so far but I just need more bandwidth on the other links *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman *Sent:* Wednesday, February 4, 2015 12:14 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] multiple ptp600 setup That's so wrong... Maybe it's a problem on the same frequency? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 4, 2015 10:11 AM, Ryan Mano rm...@corp.mdswireless.com wrote: I heard that running more than 1 ptp600 masters at 1 tower is not possible because it can cause problems It has to be setup as slave master and slave or master slave master on the 1 tower is this true? thanks
Re: [AFMUG] Sent from Snipping Tool
I think they said that because the ptp650 said exactly that as well. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 4, 2015 9:39 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: How big of a dish and how low of modulation? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Adam Moffett dmmoff...@gmail.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Wednesday, February 4, 2015 10:38:06 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Sent from Snipping Tool When they presented the Airfiber 5X did they say 200km range with a straight face?
Re: [AFMUG] release 13.3
Option66 enable zero touch config. Enable installer mode on the ap, new sm associates, grabs config and done. Powercode is working on this for their DHCP server. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 4, 2015 10:25 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: What was that DHCP option66? *From:* CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net *Sent:* Wednesday, February 04, 2015 10:23 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] release 13.3 hey bill prince! they're giving you your txt config file!!
Re: [AFMUG] upcoming epmp software changes
The 450 couldn't so I doubt it. Wifi modes been on the SM since at least 2.3 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 4, 2015 9:59 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote: in future upgrades.epmp will sync with pmp100 radios. it was said! it will happen! right? :) - Original Message - *From:* CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net *To:* af@afmug.com *Sent:* Wednesday, February 04, 2015 10:56 AM *Subject:* upcoming epmp software changes biggest think i sawupcoming wifi mode to make forklift upgrades easier. maybe this is old news...
Re: [AFMUG] release 13.3
I asked for that my first AF ages ago Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 4, 2015 10:23 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote: hey bill prince! they're giving you your txt config file!!
Re: [AFMUG] The farm is alive
Mot--er UbiChuck! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 4, 2015 9:12 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Anyone know who this guy is?
Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz 450....
256qam whaat! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 4, 2015 10:11 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: 3x throughput increase *From:* Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com *Sent:* Wednesday, February 04, 2015 10:11 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] 900 MHz 450 40 MHz channels
Re: [AFMUG] multiple ptp600 setup
That's so wrong... Maybe it's a problem on the same frequency? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 4, 2015 10:11 AM, Ryan Mano rm...@corp.mdswireless.com wrote: I heard that running more than 1 ptp600 masters at 1 tower is not possible because it can cause problems It has to be setup as slave master and slave or master slave master on the 1 tower is this true? thanks
Re: [AFMUG] upcoming epmp software changes
Duh I was thinking association, not sync
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Feb 4, 2015 10:04 AM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote:
Absolutely. We've been syncing PMP100 with PMP430 with PMP450. They do
play together.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 2/4/2015 9:02 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
450 definitely syncs with pmp100.
The 450 couldn't so I doubt it.
Wifi modes been on the SM since at least 2.3
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Feb 4, 2015 9:59 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net
wrote:
in future upgrades.epmp will sync with pmp100 radios.
it was said! it will happen! right? :)
- Original Message -
*From:* CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Sent:* Wednesday, February 04, 2015 10:56 AM
*Subject:* upcoming epmp software changes
biggest think i sawupcoming wifi mode to make forklift upgrades
easier.
maybe this is old news...
Re: [AFMUG] FW: Introducing airFiber X
Wow you'll be there?! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 3, 2015 8:48 PM, Chuck Macenski ch...@macenski.com wrote: Hi, Catch-up with me tomorrow at Animal Farm and I will tell you all about it :) Chuck On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 8:59 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: No fair... I missed out on the leakrd specs. So it sounds like it's half duplex only and using one antenna? On Feb 3, 2015 8:54 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: who said they cared what the dish polarity was? it may be a fit thing, they look awful tall... *cough* On 02/03/2015 05:49 PM, TJ Trout wrote: Why do the radios care what the dish polarity is? On Feb 3, 2015 7:32 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: cost of a rocket dish. you can modify a regular rocket dish easily by using the feedhorn notch as a template, marking, and drilling. makes it easy to swap back and forth between dual slant to h/v. On 02/03/2015 02:14 PM, Josh Baird wrote: So, how much are the dishes that they require? --- The airFiber AF-5X radio operates only with an airFiber antenna or a retrofitted RocketDish™ antenna. airFiber antenna models: • AF-5G23-S45 • AF-5G30-S45 • AF-5G34-S45 Retrofit accessory for RocketDish (RD-5G30/RD-5G34): • AF-5G-OMT-S45 On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 6:10 PM, Jon Auer j...@tapodi.net wrote: Looks like you were right: http://dl.ubnt.com/guides/airfiber/airFiber_AF-5X_QSG.pdf On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 1:50 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: I'm guessing 5 GHz connectorized. $399 sure can't have as much material as the larger units. It looks to be small, like a standard radio. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *SmarterBroadband li...@smarterbroadband.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, February 2, 2015 1:47:29 PM *Subject: *[AFMUG] FW: Introducing airFiber X Here is a copy of the email. Adam *From:* Ubiquiti Networks [mailto:sales= ubnt@mail54.atl31.mcdlv.net] *On Behalf Of *Ubiquiti Networks *Sent:* Monday, February 02, 2015 11:02 AM *To:* Adam Brodel *Subject:* Introducing airFiber X [image: Ubiquiti Networks] http://ubnt.us8.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=ed1e87009ee=746526be63 BROADBAND http://ubnt.us8.list-manage2.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=bcbe47c48ce=746526be63 ENTERPRISE http://ubnt.us8.list-manage.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=fac32e8421e=746526be63 PRODUCTS http://ubnt.us8.list-manage.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=011e493584e=746526be63 SUPPORT http://ubnt.us8.list-manage.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=c676247d51e=746526be63 BUY http://ubnt.us8.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=a56a27f01de=746526be63 The New PtP Standard for the Global WISP Industry [image: https://gallery.mailchimp.com/bc856e62a9254399365d0277b/images/50dd9ceb-25be-42ef-a292-1267e5a124fb.jpg] Starting at [image: $399 MSRP] World-Breaking Range | airFiber Radio Technology -- Platform Unveiling Wednesday, February 4 Copyright © 2015, Ubiquiti Networks, Inc. All Rights Reserved Ubiquiti Networks 2580 Orchard Parkway San Jose, CA 95131 USA Share this on: [image: https://gallery.mailchimp.com/bc856e62a9254399365d0277b/images/7f3dc1b4-79ec-48a6-941f-25d685244c58.png] http://www.facebook.com/share.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fus8.campaign-archive1.com%2F%3Fu%3Dbc856e62a9254399365d0277b%26id%3D4cd5228944t=Introducing%20airFiber%20X[image: https://gallery.mailchimp.com/bc856e62a9254399365d0277b/images/320ce1e0-edfd-4463-a908-49e2bad3cb01.png] http://twitter.com/intent/tweet?text=Introducing%20airFiber%20X%20-%20http%3A%2F%2Feepurl.com%2FbcZJBL[image: https://gallery.mailchimp.com/bc856e62a9254399365d0277b/images/0ca68975-9f4f-4102-bb45-5cf98e655a85.png] http://www.linkedin.com/shareArticle?mini=trueurl=http%3A%2F%2Fus8.campaign-archive1.com%2F%3Fu%3Dbc856e62a9254399365d0277b%26id%3D4cd5228944title=Introducing%20airFiber%20X[image: https://gallery.mailchimp.com/bc856e62a9254399365d0277b/images/269ac13c-4f54-41d9-a822-b7930bc93e93.png] http://us8.forward-to-friend2.com/forward?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=4cd5228944e=746526be63 Unsubscribe http://ubnt.us8.list-manage.com/unsubscribe?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=1c1b02cb37e=746526be63c=4cd5228944 | Update Preferences http://ubnt.us8.list-manage.com/profile?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=1c1b02cb37e=746526be63 | View in browser http://us8.campaign-archive2.com/?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=4cd5228944e=746526be63 Follow: Facebook http://ubnt.us8.list-manage.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=5b8ef22f32e=746526be63 | Twitter http://ubnt.us8.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=23d150712de
Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiber port?
SFP should be on backhauls. For APs I don't think I'd use it. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 3, 2015 10:22 AM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: I really can't see a good reason for airFiber not to have an SFP port... I really don't think anyone would mind if it added a couple bucks to the cost. I think it would even make sense to have an SFP option on something like the titanium Rockets... the standard Rockets, no probably not. On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 8:46 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: You can do that on a separate DC system. I've seen multiple manufacturers say you can't on a PoE system. Are your links filling the GigE? Most of the time people aren't concerned with protecting the radio, but whatever likely more expensive gear is inside or the structure itself. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Tuesday, February 3, 2015 8:40:31 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiberport? Many manufacturers recommend surge protectors at both ends. It’s certainly possible, I have licensed gigabit POE radios with protectors top and bottom and no errors. I’ve never seen how a surge protector at the bottom of the tower protects the radio at the top, seems like it protects the router/switch/POE. Not saying I love my Purewave system, but it has 48VDC on a separate pair of wires and they have you put DC protectors top and bottom. They told me field failures of basestations went way down with the addition of the DC protectors. And capacitance is no issue, you can put big old MOVs, gas tubes, diodes, whatever you want on there to absorb the surge. *From:* Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net *Sent:* Tuesday, February 03, 2015 7:04 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiber port? Easier to protect power alone than power + data. Usually I see the data going out anyway vs. the power side. I really did mean ESD as I separated ESD and lightning. Usually the manufacturer recommends only one additional surge suppression device as to data capacitance issues. That restriction goes away with separate power + data (over fiber). - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, February 2, 2015 10:48:29 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiberport? Why do you say no more ESD issues? (I think you really mean lightning issues, I don’t buy this wind blowing across the plastic nonsense.) A lot of the time when radios get zapped, it’s the power circuitry that’s damaged. You are still powering the radio over copper. Until you figure out how to power it with light, you are vulnerable to surges. It helps a lot if you put a DC surge protector right at the radio, but how many people do? And as long as you have a coax jumper to the antenna, you are vulnerable to surges finding a path from the antenna to ground via the radio. Again, can be mitigated with a good coax surge protector, but how many people do that? Inside a POE fed radio, there should be transformers in the data path, it’s the power path that has DC continuity. The Ethernet transformers should provide quite a bit of resistance to surges due to primary/secondary isolation, possibly a ground foil between primary and secondary, plus differential surges should be attenuated by transformer core saturation. So the most vulnerable circuitry is the power path. Which still exists if you have DC power and data over fiber. *From:* Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net *Sent:* Monday, February 02, 2015 10:35 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiber port? No more ESD issues. No more lightning issues. No more RF issues. *EVERYTHING* on a tower should be fiber. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Brett A Mansfield br...@silverlakeinternet.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, February 2, 2015 9:54:16 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With A Fiberport? I personally wouldn't want to have to run fiber and power to the airFiber. One cable is already enough. There is really no reason for fiber on any of their products. With that said, it's pretty cheap to put the SFP on. There is also no reason they cannot put them both on at least the airFiber. Thank you, Brett A Mansfield On Feb 2, 2015, at 8:45 PM, Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com wrote: It cannot possibly cost very much - a $35 rb260gs has a sfp port
Re: [AFMUG] animal farm
Back is much cooler Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 4, 2015 8:47 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote: anyone bring a fan? a little warm...are we SURE this is utah?
Re: [AFMUG] animal farm
Second from last and I see just fine Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 4, 2015 8:51 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote: can't see as well :) - Original Message - *From:* Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *To:* af@afmug.com *Sent:* Wednesday, February 04, 2015 9:50 AM *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] animal farm Back is much cooler Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 4, 2015 8:47 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote: anyone bring a fan? a little warm...are we SURE this is utah?
Re: [AFMUG] Rodizio's
30...wow... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 4, 2015 8:56 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: My family has about 30 cattle. We have better steak than most anywhere. ;-) That said, I've eaten at Brazilian steakhosues (I go about 3 - 4 times per year), just never heard of those ones. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Wednesday, February 4, 2015 9:49:05 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Rodizio's mike lives a sheltered life.never heard of steak. - Original Message - *From:* Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net *To:* af@afmug.com *Sent:* Wednesday, February 04, 2015 7:20 AM *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Rodizio's I had never heard of either before the AFMUG crowd. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Tuesday, February 3, 2015 6:50:55 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Rodizio's Personally I prefer Rodizo. Regardless of price. I'm not a huge fan of steak and food taste/quality dominates all my decision material. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 3, 2015 7:47 PM, Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com wrote: That should be an easy call, they've only got Ruths Chris's, uheverywhere. On Tuesday, February 3, 2015, Paul McCall pa...@pdmnet.net wrote: uh oh ! We have a split decision brewing... some are going OFDM and some are going Wimax. -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Craig House Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 7:42 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Rodizio's Ruth's Cris is too rich for my credit card limit. I'll be at rodizio's at 6:30 or 7. Staring at ramada also but will take the tram probably Sent from my iPhone
Re: [AFMUG] Jaime Sighting
Whoa, Redline?! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 4, 2015 9:32 PM, Daniel White afmu...@gmail.com wrote: Too bad the cheerleaders were busy *** Daniel White - Managing Director SAF North America LLC Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com Skype: danieldwhite Social: LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84 ***
Re: [AFMUG] Jaime Sighting
I'm shocked to see that name again! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 4, 2015 9:40 PM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote: Lol. We were in front of SAF booth talking with Daniel and friends. ..I never stopped at Redline. No gear no brochures ..nada Jaime Solorza On Feb 4, 2015 10:34 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Whoa, Redline?! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 4, 2015 9:32 PM, Daniel White afmu...@gmail.com wrote: Too bad the cheerleaders were busy *** Daniel White - Managing Director SAF North America LLC Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com Skype: danieldwhite Social: LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84 ***
Re: [AFMUG] streaming video
I think they just let it go as quick as it can to offload the data asap Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 4, 2015 11:08 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote: Unlimited...but that wasn't the point :). Is a 10 meg package the average now (to sell) Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone - Reply message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] streaming video Date: Wed, Feb 4, 2015 11:03 PM RIP data allowance Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 4, 2015 10:58 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote: streaming a program i watch regularly on demand - using my vzw hotspot. running 9 to 18 meg and streaming in HD
Re: [AFMUG] Epmp sync ? Sync injector or puck?
I've been 100% fine with 100 meg and CMM sync from the gig syncinjector. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 30, 2015 10:18 AM, Nate Burke n...@blastcomm.com wrote: It's been a couple months, but I think It persisted with 1G and 100m, I do have it set to 100m now, but I'm pretty sure to get it to completely clear up, I had to disable the Sync on the Sync Injector. On 1/30/2015 9:14 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: Was it gig? I had gig problems all over so I just set my rb2011 to 100 meg. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 30, 2015 10:12 AM, Nate Burke n...@blastcomm.com wrote: I have the Puck deployed on all radios. I have 1 site that is Syncing off the Puck, but powered via a sync injector. I was having ethernet issues (interface bouncing/negotiation) until I disabled Sync on that port in the Sync Injector. It's been fine since. On 1/30/2015 9:07 AM, Paul McCall wrote: We are installing both and using CMM, CTM, SyncInjectors until something stops working S.O.P. and then have the pucks to use to get us by. Saved us many tower climbs already. As a rule, we keep the back to back APs on the same sync source (SOP or puck) and that seems to work fine, even with the other 2 back to back APs on the original SOP sync source. Paul *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Baird *Sent:* Friday, January 30, 2015 9:23 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Epmp sync ? Sync injector or puck? So Cambium is basically telling people not to use SyncInjectors? Funny. I haven't heard that one before. Josh On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 9:15 AM, Darren Shea darr...@ecpi.com wrote: TJ, We’ve seen occasional issues with the ePMP APs in the field losing the sync-over-power pulse from SyncInjectors and CTM-2Ms, and Cambium responded to my trouble ticket with the following: “There has been extensive discussion/testing here regarding supported/compatible third party Sync/power sources for ePMP APs. We noticed sync compatibility issues when using packetflux sync injectors.” My advice is to deploy with the puck antenna and use it as your primary sync source, and keep the SyncInjector oprerational as a backup. The onboard GPS seems to be stable, and appears to be less likely to make your customers call you complaining, “the Internet is down!” -Darren *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *TJ Trout *Sent:* Thursday, January 29, 2015 8:23 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] Epmp sync ? Sync injector or puck? Any advantges to using sync Injectors or Cmm for epmp or is the puck just as good ?
Re: [AFMUG] Epmp sync ? Sync injector or puck?
Was it gig? I had gig problems all over so I just set my rb2011 to 100 meg. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 30, 2015 10:12 AM, Nate Burke n...@blastcomm.com wrote: I have the Puck deployed on all radios. I have 1 site that is Syncing off the Puck, but powered via a sync injector. I was having ethernet issues (interface bouncing/negotiation) until I disabled Sync on that port in the Sync Injector. It's been fine since. On 1/30/2015 9:07 AM, Paul McCall wrote: We are installing both and using CMM, CTM, SyncInjectors until something stops working S.O.P. and then have the pucks to use to get us by. Saved us many tower climbs already. As a rule, we keep the back to back APs on the same sync source (SOP or puck) and that seems to work fine, even with the other 2 back to back APs on the original SOP sync source. Paul *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Baird *Sent:* Friday, January 30, 2015 9:23 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Epmp sync ? Sync injector or puck? So Cambium is basically telling people not to use SyncInjectors? Funny. I haven't heard that one before. Josh On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 9:15 AM, Darren Shea darr...@ecpi.com wrote: TJ, We’ve seen occasional issues with the ePMP APs in the field losing the sync-over-power pulse from SyncInjectors and CTM-2Ms, and Cambium responded to my trouble ticket with the following: “There has been extensive discussion/testing here regarding supported/compatible third party Sync/power sources for ePMP APs. We noticed sync compatibility issues when using packetflux sync injectors.” My advice is to deploy with the puck antenna and use it as your primary sync source, and keep the SyncInjector oprerational as a backup. The onboard GPS seems to be stable, and appears to be less likely to make your customers call you complaining, “the Internet is down!” -Darren *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *TJ Trout *Sent:* Thursday, January 29, 2015 8:23 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] Epmp sync ? Sync injector or puck? Any advantges to using sync Injectors or Cmm for epmp or is the puck just as good ?
Re: [AFMUG] RB750UP and Grounding
Assuming you're using the RB750UP for POE and NOT the poe injectors? IIRC they're plastic so it can't be shielded... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 3:56 PM, John Woodfield john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz wrote: Do you lose the surge protection of the Ubiquiti and Cambium PoE injectors when switching over the RB750UP? I see the switch has shielded jacks but I hardly want to create a problem by losing the surge protection attributes. John Woodfield Delmarva WiFi http://www.delmarvawifi.com cell (410) 708-1937
Re: [AFMUG] RB750UP and Grounding
You could just bust out the multimeter and check it =P Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 4:14 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: They do have shielded RJ45 ports (only on the UP). but yeah, I don't think there is any real surge protection... that said, we use them all over the place and it hasn't really been a problem. On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 3:08 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Assuming you're using the RB750UP for POE and NOT the poe injectors? IIRC they're plastic so it can't be shielded... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 3:56 PM, John Woodfield john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz wrote: Do you lose the surge protection of the Ubiquiti and Cambium PoE injectors when switching over the RB750UP? I see the switch has shielded jacks but I hardly want to create a problem by losing the surge protection attributes. John Woodfield Delmarva WiFi http://www.delmarvawifi.com cell (410) 708-1937
Re: [AFMUG] FW: Introducing airFiber X
Who says it is PTP? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 2:57 PM, SmarterBroadband li...@smarterbroadband.com wrote: However you don’t need beam steering on PTP? *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman *Sent:* Monday, February 02, 2015 11:53 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] FW: Introducing airFiber X $400 radio and maybe an awesome sector for beam steering... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 2:50 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: I'm guessing 5 GHz connectorized. $399 sure can't have as much material as the larger units. It looks to be small, like a standard radio. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *SmarterBroadband li...@smarterbroadband.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, February 2, 2015 1:47:29 PM *Subject: *[AFMUG] FW: Introducing airFiber X Here is a copy of the email. Adam *From:* Ubiquiti Networks [mailto:sales=ubnt@mail54.atl31.mcdlv.net] *On Behalf Of *Ubiquiti Networks *Sent:* Monday, February 02, 2015 11:02 AM *To:* Adam Brodel *Subject:* Introducing airFiber X [image: Ubiquiti Networks] http://ubnt.us8.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=ed1e87009ee=746526be63 BROADBAND http://ubnt.us8.list-manage2.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=bcbe47c48ce=746526be63 ENTERPRISE http://ubnt.us8.list-manage.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=fac32e8421e=746526be63 PRODUCTS http://ubnt.us8.list-manage.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=011e493584e=746526be63 SUPPORT http://ubnt.us8.list-manage.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=c676247d51e=746526be63 BUY http://ubnt.us8.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=a56a27f01de=746526be63 The New PtP Standard for the Global WISP Industry [image: https://gallery.mailchimp.com/bc856e62a9254399365d0277b/images/50dd9ceb-25be-42ef-a292-1267e5a124fb.jpg] Starting at [image: $399 MSRP] World-Breaking Range | airFiber Radio Technology -- Platform Unveiling Wednesday, February 4 Copyright © 2015, Ubiquiti Networks, Inc. All Rights Reserved Ubiquiti Networks 2580 Orchard Parkway San Jose, CA 95131 USA Share this on: [image: https://gallery.mailchimp.com/bc856e62a9254399365d0277b/images/7f3dc1b4-79ec-48a6-941f-25d685244c58.png] http://www.facebook.com/share.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fus8.campaign-archive1.com%2F%3Fu%3Dbc856e62a9254399365d0277b%26id%3D4cd5228944t=Introducing%20airFiber%20X[image: https://gallery.mailchimp.com/bc856e62a9254399365d0277b/images/320ce1e0-edfd-4463-a908-49e2bad3cb01.png] http://twitter.com/intent/tweet?text=Introducing%20airFiber%20X%20-%20http%3A%2F%2Feepurl.com%2FbcZJBL[image: https://gallery.mailchimp.com/bc856e62a9254399365d0277b/images/0ca68975-9f4f-4102-bb45-5cf98e655a85.png] http://www.linkedin.com/shareArticle?mini=trueurl=http%3A%2F%2Fus8.campaign-archive1.com%2F%3Fu%3Dbc856e62a9254399365d0277b%26id%3D4cd5228944title=Introducing%20airFiber%20X[image: https://gallery.mailchimp.com/bc856e62a9254399365d0277b/images/269ac13c-4f54-41d9-a822-b7930bc93e93.png] http://us8.forward-to-friend2.com/forward?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=4cd5228944e=746526be63 Unsubscribe http://ubnt.us8.list-manage.com/unsubscribe?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=1c1b02cb37e=746526be63c=4cd5228944 | Update Preferences http://ubnt.us8.list-manage.com/profile?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=1c1b02cb37e=746526be63 | View in browser http://us8.campaign-archive2.com/?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=4cd5228944e=746526be63 Follow: Facebook http://ubnt.us8.list-manage.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=5b8ef22f32e=746526be63 | Twitter http://ubnt.us8.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=23d150712de=746526be63 | YouTube http://ubnt.us8.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=1d2d4b0307e=746526be63 http://ubnt.us8.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=4458951288e=746526be63 [image: http://ubnt.us8.list-manage.com/track/open.php?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=4cd5228944e=746526be63]
Re: [AFMUG] SLC Weather
My favorite part about flying is the few hour escape from the connectivity... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 2:55 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: I am on an American Airlines flight right now from Dallas to SLC, wifi is availiable on the plane for $10/hour. Getting about 1.5 mbps down and 100 pings with it and they had a diaclaimer on sign on page that streaming video was blocked! Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Feb 2, 2015, at 1:47 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: When's that Chicago - Detroit high speed line going in? *ducking* - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Jeff Broadwick - Lists jeffl...@att.net *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, February 2, 2015 1:46:25 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] SLC Weather Yeah, if I want to take over 3 hours and schlep my bag a half a mile, outside, between train stations. Jeff Broadwick ConVergence Technologies, Inc. 312-205-2519 Office 574-220-7826 Cell jbroadw...@converge-tech.com On Feb 2, 2015, at 1:45 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: Can't you take South Shore to a bus to Blue Line? :-p - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Jeff Broadwick - Lists jeffl...@att.net *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, February 2, 2015 1:44:18 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] SLC Weather I'm just about to get on my flight to SLC on American at O'Hare. On time. The drive in...not so much... Jeff Broadwick ConVergence Technologies, Inc. 312-205-2519 Office 574-220-7826 Cell jbroadw...@converge-tech.com On Feb 2, 2015, at 1:40 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: Anyone get stranded in Chicago last night or today? My Columbus-Chicago flight was cancelled and re-routed through Dallas. They said blizzard conditions in Chicago thia morning on the radio. Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Feb 1, 2015, at 10:13 PM, Nate Burke n...@blastcomm.com wrote: Do I see right that it's supposed to be in the high 50's low 60's all next week? I was going to pack my boots, but looks like I won't need them. Nate
Re: [AFMUG] FW: Introducing airFiber X
$400 radio and maybe an awesome sector for beam steering... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 2:50 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: I'm guessing 5 GHz connectorized. $399 sure can't have as much material as the larger units. It looks to be small, like a standard radio. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *SmarterBroadband li...@smarterbroadband.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, February 2, 2015 1:47:29 PM *Subject: *[AFMUG] FW: Introducing airFiber X Here is a copy of the email. Adam *From:* Ubiquiti Networks [mailto:sales=ubnt@mail54.atl31.mcdlv.net] *On Behalf Of *Ubiquiti Networks *Sent:* Monday, February 02, 2015 11:02 AM *To:* Adam Brodel *Subject:* Introducing airFiber X [image: Ubiquiti Networks] http://ubnt.us8.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=ed1e87009ee=746526be63 BROADBAND http://ubnt.us8.list-manage2.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=bcbe47c48ce=746526be63 ENTERPRISE http://ubnt.us8.list-manage.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=fac32e8421e=746526be63 PRODUCTS http://ubnt.us8.list-manage.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=011e493584e=746526be63 SUPPORT http://ubnt.us8.list-manage.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=c676247d51e=746526be63 BUY http://ubnt.us8.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=a56a27f01de=746526be63 The New PtP Standard for the Global WISP Industry [image: https://gallery.mailchimp.com/bc856e62a9254399365d0277b/images/50dd9ceb-25be-42ef-a292-1267e5a124fb.jpg] Starting at [image: $399 MSRP] World-Breaking Range | airFiber Radio Technology -- Platform Unveiling Wednesday, February 4 Copyright © 2015, Ubiquiti Networks, Inc. All Rights Reserved Ubiquiti Networks 2580 Orchard Parkway San Jose, CA 95131 USA Share this on: [image: https://gallery.mailchimp.com/bc856e62a9254399365d0277b/images/7f3dc1b4-79ec-48a6-941f-25d685244c58.png] http://www.facebook.com/share.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fus8.campaign-archive1.com%2F%3Fu%3Dbc856e62a9254399365d0277b%26id%3D4cd5228944t=Introducing%20airFiber%20X[image: https://gallery.mailchimp.com/bc856e62a9254399365d0277b/images/320ce1e0-edfd-4463-a908-49e2bad3cb01.png] http://twitter.com/intent/tweet?text=Introducing%20airFiber%20X%20-%20http%3A%2F%2Feepurl.com%2FbcZJBL[image: https://gallery.mailchimp.com/bc856e62a9254399365d0277b/images/0ca68975-9f4f-4102-bb45-5cf98e655a85.png] http://www.linkedin.com/shareArticle?mini=trueurl=http%3A%2F%2Fus8.campaign-archive1.com%2F%3Fu%3Dbc856e62a9254399365d0277b%26id%3D4cd5228944title=Introducing%20airFiber%20X[image: https://gallery.mailchimp.com/bc856e62a9254399365d0277b/images/269ac13c-4f54-41d9-a822-b7930bc93e93.png] http://us8.forward-to-friend2.com/forward?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=4cd5228944e=746526be63 Unsubscribe http://ubnt.us8.list-manage.com/unsubscribe?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=1c1b02cb37e=746526be63c=4cd5228944 | Update Preferences http://ubnt.us8.list-manage.com/profile?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=1c1b02cb37e=746526be63 | View in browser http://us8.campaign-archive2.com/?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=4cd5228944e=746526be63 Follow: Facebook http://ubnt.us8.list-manage.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=5b8ef22f32e=746526be63 | Twitter http://ubnt.us8.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=23d150712de=746526be63 | YouTube http://ubnt.us8.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=1d2d4b0307e=746526be63 http://ubnt.us8.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=4458951288e=746526be63 [image: http://ubnt.us8.list-manage.com/track/open.php?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=4cd5228944e=746526be63]
Re: [AFMUG] SLC Weather
But your customers aren't going to understand how to communicate unless you say over. Over. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJCfUm21BsI Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 3:05 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: Lol, at least the phone cant ring, unless you have Voip over WIfI Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Feb 2, 2015, at 2:01 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: My favorite part about flying is the few hour escape from the connectivity... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 2:55 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: I am on an American Airlines flight right now from Dallas to SLC, wifi is availiable on the plane for $10/hour. Getting about 1.5 mbps down and 100 pings with it and they had a diaclaimer on sign on page that streaming video was blocked! Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Feb 2, 2015, at 1:47 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: When's that Chicago - Detroit high speed line going in? *ducking* - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Jeff Broadwick - Lists jeffl...@att.net *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, February 2, 2015 1:46:25 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] SLC Weather Yeah, if I want to take over 3 hours and schlep my bag a half a mile, outside, between train stations. Jeff Broadwick ConVergence Technologies, Inc. 312-205-2519 Office 574-220-7826 Cell jbroadw...@converge-tech.com On Feb 2, 2015, at 1:45 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: Can't you take South Shore to a bus to Blue Line? :-p - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Jeff Broadwick - Lists jeffl...@att.net *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, February 2, 2015 1:44:18 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] SLC Weather I'm just about to get on my flight to SLC on American at O'Hare. On time. The drive in...not so much... Jeff Broadwick ConVergence Technologies, Inc. 312-205-2519 Office 574-220-7826 Cell jbroadw...@converge-tech.com On Feb 2, 2015, at 1:40 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: Anyone get stranded in Chicago last night or today? My Columbus-Chicago flight was cancelled and re-routed through Dallas. They said blizzard conditions in Chicago thia morning on the radio. Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Feb 1, 2015, at 10:13 PM, Nate Burke n...@blastcomm.com wrote: Do I see right that it's supposed to be in the high 50's low 60's all next week? I was going to pack my boots, but looks like I won't need them. Nate
Re: [AFMUG] FW: Introducing airFiber X
Totally skipped over the words at the top. $600 less than the AF5, that budget goes towards bigger antennas. Interesting. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 3:02 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: The announcement. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, February 2, 2015 2:02:01 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] FW: Introducing airFiber X Who says it is PTP? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 2:57 PM, SmarterBroadband li...@smarterbroadband.com wrote: However you don’t need beam steering on PTP? *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman *Sent:* Monday, February 02, 2015 11:53 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] FW: Introducing airFiber X $400 radio and maybe an awesome sector for beam steering... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 2:50 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: I'm guessing 5 GHz connectorized. $399 sure can't have as much material as the larger units. It looks to be small, like a standard radio. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *SmarterBroadband li...@smarterbroadband.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, February 2, 2015 1:47:29 PM *Subject: *[AFMUG] FW: Introducing airFiber X Here is a copy of the email. Adam *From:* Ubiquiti Networks [mailto:sales=ubnt@mail54.atl31.mcdlv.net] *On Behalf Of *Ubiquiti Networks *Sent:* Monday, February 02, 2015 11:02 AM *To:* Adam Brodel *Subject:* Introducing airFiber X [image: Ubiquiti Networks] http://ubnt.us8.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=ed1e87009ee=746526be63 BROADBAND http://ubnt.us8.list-manage2.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=bcbe47c48ce=746526be63 ENTERPRISE http://ubnt.us8.list-manage.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=fac32e8421e=746526be63 PRODUCTS http://ubnt.us8.list-manage.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=011e493584e=746526be63 SUPPORT http://ubnt.us8.list-manage.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=c676247d51e=746526be63 BUY http://ubnt.us8.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=a56a27f01de=746526be63 The New PtP Standard for the Global WISP Industry [image: https://gallery.mailchimp.com/bc856e62a9254399365d0277b/images/50dd9ceb-25be-42ef-a292-1267e5a124fb.jpg] Starting at [image: $399 MSRP] World-Breaking Range | airFiber Radio Technology -- Platform Unveiling Wednesday, February 4 Copyright © 2015, Ubiquiti Networks, Inc. All Rights Reserved Ubiquiti Networks 2580 Orchard Parkway San Jose, CA 95131 USA Share this on: [image: https://gallery.mailchimp.com/bc856e62a9254399365d0277b/images/7f3dc1b4-79ec-48a6-941f-25d685244c58.png] http://www.facebook.com/share.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fus8.campaign-archive1.com%2F%3Fu%3Dbc856e62a9254399365d0277b%26id%3D4cd5228944t=Introducing%20airFiber%20X[image: https://gallery.mailchimp.com/bc856e62a9254399365d0277b/images/320ce1e0-edfd-4463-a908-49e2bad3cb01.png] http://twitter.com/intent/tweet?text=Introducing%20airFiber%20X%20-%20http%3A%2F%2Feepurl.com%2FbcZJBL[image: https://gallery.mailchimp.com/bc856e62a9254399365d0277b/images/0ca68975-9f4f-4102-bb45-5cf98e655a85.png] http://www.linkedin.com/shareArticle?mini=trueurl=http%3A%2F%2Fus8.campaign-archive1.com%2F%3Fu%3Dbc856e62a9254399365d0277b%26id%3D4cd5228944title=Introducing%20airFiber%20X[image: https://gallery.mailchimp.com/bc856e62a9254399365d0277b/images/269ac13c-4f54-41d9-a822-b7930bc93e93.png] http://us8.forward-to-friend2.com/forward?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=4cd5228944e=746526be63 Unsubscribe http://ubnt.us8.list-manage.com/unsubscribe?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=1c1b02cb37e=746526be63c=4cd5228944 | Update Preferences http://ubnt.us8.list-manage.com/profile?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=1c1b02cb37e=746526be63 | View in browser http://us8.campaign-archive2.com/?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=4cd5228944e=746526be63 Follow: Facebook http://ubnt.us8.list-manage.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=5b8ef22f32e=746526be63 | Twitter http://ubnt.us8.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=23d150712de=746526be63 | YouTube http://ubnt.us8.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=1d2d4b0307e=746526be63 http://ubnt.us8.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=4458951288e=746526be63 [image: http://ubnt.us8.list-manage.com/track/open.php?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=4cd5228944e
Re: [AFMUG] Sterling's tour
As an Uber drive you simply don't answer the call when you don't want to pick that person up. Let someone else pick it up. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 3:16 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote: I find the whole Uber vs taxi thing interesting from the common carrier standpoint. Given that some people want to reclassify us as common carriers. I keep seeing that Uber rates customers as well as drivers, and if you as a customer get poor ratings from Uber drivers, you may be standing there forever waiting for a ride. Same if you are in a “bad” neighborhood. Whereas taxis are required to pick up anyone. Also that it doesn’t take much to get a poor rating from an Uber driver, like asking for the radio turned down or the windows closed. This does not seem to hurt the popularity of Uber, which seems to me like carpooling or hitchhiking with an app. But if Uber cuts seriously into taxi business, who will pick up the undesirable customers or the people who need a ride from an undesirable neighborhood, or in crappy weather. I admit I like not having to accept just anybody as a customer, and being able to fire customers, in fact I wish there was an app where WISPs could rate customers and the bad ones would essentially be blackballed. And I wonder if Title II would mean we have to serve anybody who calls. At least maybe that would mean we could post a cleanup fee for if you puke in the taxi. *From:* Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us *Sent:* Monday, February 02, 2015 12:04 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Sterling's tour Provo is pretty far from SLC. An uber might be kinda expensive. On Monday, February 2, 2015, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: There is Uber in SLC now FYI. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 2, 2015 11:05 AM, Nate Burke javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','n...@blastcomm.com'); wrote: I'm planning on coming down on Tuesday, Anyone that needs a ride, hit me up. Nate On 1/29/2015 6:19 PM, Sterling Jacobson wrote: Yeah, ok. Thanks! *From:* Af [javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af-boun...@afmug.com');] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman *Sent:* Thursday, January 29, 2015 5:19 PM *To:* javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com'); *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Sterling's tour By Cafe El Lag? Better html: https://www.google.com/maps?q=40.388112,-111.910605 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 7:17 PM, Sterling Jacobson javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','sterl...@avative.net'); wrote: Oh, I’ll have to try that. Here is the url then: https://www.google.com/maps?q=40.388112,-111.910605 *From:* Af [mailto:javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af-boun...@afmug.com');] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman *Sent:* Thursday, January 29, 2015 5:07 PM *To:* javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com'); *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Sterling's tour You can just move the dot to where your building actually is and report it. After a few days someone from Google (probably an intern) will verify it and let you know if you wish. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 5:42 PM, Sterling Jacobson javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','sterl...@avative.net'); wrote: Ok, I will plan on hosting anyone that wants to visit either before the event on Tuesday the 3rd of February at 3PM, and Friday the 6th at 11AM. I don’t think it will take longer than an hour. Location is in the city of Saratoga Springs, UT. The address of my office doesn’t pull up well in Google Maps, but its in a strip mall a couple of blocks east of the center of town. That is a couple blocks east of the Wendys, Wallmart, Smiths Grocery, Wallgreens intersection. The sign on my office isn’t installed, so it’s still a Karate studio circular sign of a karate guy on top of an American Flag (naturally). There is a Jiffy Lube and a Subway Sandwich shop in the front of the stripmall. The address is: 258 East SR-73 Saratoga Springs, UT 84045 Again, looking this up in Google Maps will put you way off. I’m trying to fix that, but it’s not a high priority for me yet J *From:* Af [mailto:javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af-boun...@afmug.com');] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown *Sent:* Tuesday, January 20, 2015 11:15 AM *To:* javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com'); *Subject:* [AFMUG] Sterling's tour Sterling, I have been asked if you want an RSVP and if you have any procedures for where to go and what time etc. I am planning on Tuesday myself.
Re: [AFMUG] SLC Weather
I'm gonna copy some more movies over to my tablet...you guys already stuck take the time to relax! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 7:31 PM, Paul McCall pa...@pdmnet.net wrote: JetBlue delayed coming out of the northeast to Orlando. So my Orlando 8pm flight out just became midnight… maybe L Scotty… beam me over ! *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman *Sent:* Monday, February 02, 2015 4:24 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SLC Weather I'll pack my shorts! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 4:18 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: just got off the plane in Salt Lake City and it's 55° here Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Feb 2, 2015, at 1:24 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: LOL!!! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 3:20 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: I'm gonna call Obama tell him to push Tom Wheeler to get my dang wifi working better on the plane. And I want it to meet the definition of broadband Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Feb 2, 2015, at 2:14 PM, John Woodfield john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz wrote: Sounds like a good target for neutrality lol Use a proxy! John Woodfield Delmarva WiFi http://www.delmarvawifi.com cell (410) 708-1937 -Original Message- From: Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com Sent: Monday, February 2, 2015 3:13pm To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SLC Weather I cant watch that video they got youtube blocked on the plane. Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Feb 2, 2015, at 2:08 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: But your customers aren't going to understand how to communicate unless you say over. Over. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJCfUm21BsI Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 3:05 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: Lol, at least the phone cant ring, unless you have Voip over WIfI Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Feb 2, 2015, at 2:01 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: My favorite part about flying is the few hour escape from the connectivity... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 2:55 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: I am on an American Airlines flight right now from Dallas to SLC, wifi is availiable on the plane for $10/hour. Getting about 1.5 mbps down and 100 pings with it and they had a diaclaimer on sign on page that streaming video was blocked! Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Feb 2, 2015, at 1:47 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: When's that Chicago - Detroit high speed line going in? *ducking* - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Jeff Broadwick - Lists jeffl...@att.net *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, February 2, 2015 1:46:25 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] SLC Weather Yeah, if I want to take over 3 hours and schlep my bag a half a mile, outside, between train stations. Jeff Broadwick ConVergence Technologies, Inc. 312-205-2519 Office 574-220-7826 Cell jbroadw...@converge-tech.com On Feb 2, 2015, at 1:45 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: Can't you take South Shore to a bus to Blue Line? :-p - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Jeff Broadwick - Lists jeffl...@att.net *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, February 2, 2015 1:44:18 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] SLC Weather I'm just about to get on my flight to SLC on American at O'Hare. On time. The drive in...not so much... Jeff Broadwick ConVergence Technologies, Inc. 312-205-2519 Office 574-220-7826 Cell jbroadw...@converge-tech.com On Feb 2, 2015, at 1:40 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: Anyone get
Re: [AFMUG] Everyone.Net
I'm totally joking :P Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 2, 2015 11:07 PM, Seth Mattinen se...@rollernet.us wrote: On 2/2/15 6:40 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Email is hard It's not technically hard. But email needs a lot of babysitting now. It's a burden to deal with the moving target of spam, scams, phishing, and viruses. Add to that users complaining about too much spam, false positives, deleted an email they really needed right now, not enough spam, etc. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] Everyone.Net
Email is hard Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 2, 2015 8:48 PM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: Hi, When Digis purchased my company 20 months ago, they moved all of our email accounts (over 10,000 of them) to Everyone.Net. I'm not sure if we were one of their larger domains, but during the last 20 months, they have had more outages and problems than we had during the previous 10 years. Their SMTP service has been unresponsive for the last 8 hours... and their response is we are working on it. Amazing. All they do is email and they can't even keep an SMTP service running. Travis
Re: [AFMUG] Everyone.Net
Depends what they're paying them... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 2, 2015 10:57 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: Well they charge $5.00 per email for their customers who cancel. That's good money! They should be able to afford something better. You would think with nearly 250K customers that it would make sense to run your own mail system. That is a ton of revenue going to everyone.net. On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 8:30 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: When you go cheap, it'll bite you in the ass. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Travis Johnson t...@ida.net *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, February 2, 2015 7:48:47 PM *Subject: *[AFMUG] Everyone.Net Hi, When Digis purchased my company 20 months ago, they moved all of our email accounts (over 10,000 of them) to Everyone.Net. I'm not sure if we were one of their larger domains, but during the last 20 months, they have had more outages and problems than we had during the previous 10 years. Their SMTP service has been unresponsive for the last 8 hours... and their response is we are working on it. Amazing. All they do is email and they can't even keep an SMTP service running. Travis
Re: [AFMUG] Sterling's tour
There is Uber in SLC now FYI. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 2, 2015 11:05 AM, Nate Burke n...@blastcomm.com wrote: I'm planning on coming down on Tuesday, Anyone that needs a ride, hit me up. Nate On 1/29/2015 6:19 PM, Sterling Jacobson wrote: Yeah, ok. Thanks! *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman *Sent:* Thursday, January 29, 2015 5:19 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Sterling's tour By Cafe El Lag? Better html: https://www.google.com/maps?q=40.388112,-111.910605 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 7:17 PM, Sterling Jacobson sterl...@avative.net wrote: Oh, I’ll have to try that. Here is the url then: https://www.google.com/maps?q=40.388112,-111.910605 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman *Sent:* Thursday, January 29, 2015 5:07 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Sterling's tour You can just move the dot to where your building actually is and report it. After a few days someone from Google (probably an intern) will verify it and let you know if you wish. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 5:42 PM, Sterling Jacobson sterl...@avative.net wrote: Ok, I will plan on hosting anyone that wants to visit either before the event on Tuesday the 3rd of February at 3PM, and Friday the 6th at 11AM. I don’t think it will take longer than an hour. Location is in the city of Saratoga Springs, UT. The address of my office doesn’t pull up well in Google Maps, but its in a strip mall a couple of blocks east of the center of town. That is a couple blocks east of the Wendys, Wallmart, Smiths Grocery, Wallgreens intersection. The sign on my office isn’t installed, so it’s still a Karate studio circular sign of a karate guy on top of an American Flag (naturally). There is a Jiffy Lube and a Subway Sandwich shop in the front of the stripmall. The address is: 258 East SR-73 Saratoga Springs, UT 84045 Again, looking this up in Google Maps will put you way off. I’m trying to fix that, but it’s not a high priority for me yet J *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown *Sent:* Tuesday, January 20, 2015 11:15 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] Sterling's tour Sterling, I have been asked if you want an RSVP and if you have any procedures for where to go and what time etc. I am planning on Tuesday myself.
Re: [AFMUG] UBNT frequency
The frequency you select is the center frequency. If it's 20, it's 10 above and 10 below. IE 5840 actually uses 5830-5850. Note that it isn't a finite cut off and obviously that doesn't add exactly to 20. Cheaper (Ubnt) stuff also bleeds way more than many other products which means it goes even farther than the 20 MHz it is supposed to. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 5:04 PM, Brett A Mansfield br...@silverlakeinternet.com wrote: I've been using UBNT equipment for a few years now and one thing has always confused me. I cannot tell the east frequencies that my radios are using. For example, in airOS 5.x I can select 5840 and put it to 5, 10, 20, 30 or 40 MHz channels. How do I know what full spectrum the radio is using? Is it 5800-5840, 5805-5845, 5810-5850, etc? I have done a lot of web searching on this and find nothing. I've only been involved in wireless for 3 years and have been self taught, so perhaps this is a rookie question I should already know? Thank you, Brett A Mansfield
Re: [AFMUG] SLC Weather
LOL!!! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 3:20 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: I'm gonna call Obama tell him to push Tom Wheeler to get my dang wifi working better on the plane. And I want it to meet the definition of broadband Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Feb 2, 2015, at 2:14 PM, John Woodfield john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz wrote: Sounds like a good target for neutrality lol Use a proxy! John Woodfield Delmarva WiFi http://www.delmarvawifi.com cell (410) 708-1937 -Original Message- From: Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com Sent: Monday, February 2, 2015 3:13pm To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SLC Weather I cant watch that video they got youtube blocked on the plane. Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Feb 2, 2015, at 2:08 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: But your customers aren't going to understand how to communicate unless you say over. Over. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJCfUm21BsI Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 3:05 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: Lol, at least the phone cant ring, unless you have Voip over WIfI Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Feb 2, 2015, at 2:01 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: My favorite part about flying is the few hour escape from the connectivity... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 2:55 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: I am on an American Airlines flight right now from Dallas to SLC, wifi is availiable on the plane for $10/hour. Getting about 1.5 mbps down and 100 pings with it and they had a diaclaimer on sign on page that streaming video was blocked! Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Feb 2, 2015, at 1:47 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: When's that Chicago - Detroit high speed line going in? *ducking* - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Jeff Broadwick - Lists jeffl...@att.net *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, February 2, 2015 1:46:25 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] SLC Weather Yeah, if I want to take over 3 hours and schlep my bag a half a mile, outside, between train stations. Jeff Broadwick ConVergence Technologies, Inc. 312-205-2519 Office 574-220-7826 Cell jbroadw...@converge-tech.com On Feb 2, 2015, at 1:45 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: Can't you take South Shore to a bus to Blue Line? :-p - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Jeff Broadwick - Lists jeffl...@att.net *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, February 2, 2015 1:44:18 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] SLC Weather I'm just about to get on my flight to SLC on American at O'Hare. On time. The drive in...not so much... Jeff Broadwick ConVergence Technologies, Inc. 312-205-2519 Office 574-220-7826 Cell jbroadw...@converge-tech.com On Feb 2, 2015, at 1:40 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: Anyone get stranded in Chicago last night or today? My Columbus-Chicago flight was cancelled and re-routed through Dallas. They said blizzard conditions in Chicago thia morning on the radio. Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Feb 1, 2015, at 10:13 PM, Nate Burke n...@blastcomm.com wrote: Do I see right that it's supposed to be in the high 50's low 60's all next week? I was going to pack my boots, but looks like I won't need them. Nate
Re: [AFMUG] SLC Weather
I'll pack my shorts! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 4:18 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: just got off the plane in Salt Lake City and it's 55° here Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Feb 2, 2015, at 1:24 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: LOL!!! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 3:20 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: I'm gonna call Obama tell him to push Tom Wheeler to get my dang wifi working better on the plane. And I want it to meet the definition of broadband Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Feb 2, 2015, at 2:14 PM, John Woodfield john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz wrote: Sounds like a good target for neutrality lol Use a proxy! John Woodfield Delmarva WiFi http://www.delmarvawifi.com cell (410) 708-1937 -Original Message- From: Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com Sent: Monday, February 2, 2015 3:13pm To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SLC Weather I cant watch that video they got youtube blocked on the plane. Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Feb 2, 2015, at 2:08 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: But your customers aren't going to understand how to communicate unless you say over. Over. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJCfUm21BsI Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 3:05 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: Lol, at least the phone cant ring, unless you have Voip over WIfI Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Feb 2, 2015, at 2:01 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: My favorite part about flying is the few hour escape from the connectivity... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 2:55 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: I am on an American Airlines flight right now from Dallas to SLC, wifi is availiable on the plane for $10/hour. Getting about 1.5 mbps down and 100 pings with it and they had a diaclaimer on sign on page that streaming video was blocked! Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Feb 2, 2015, at 1:47 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: When's that Chicago - Detroit high speed line going in? *ducking* - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Jeff Broadwick - Lists jeffl...@att.net *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, February 2, 2015 1:46:25 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] SLC Weather Yeah, if I want to take over 3 hours and schlep my bag a half a mile, outside, between train stations. Jeff Broadwick ConVergence Technologies, Inc. 312-205-2519 Office 574-220-7826 Cell jbroadw...@converge-tech.com On Feb 2, 2015, at 1:45 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: Can't you take South Shore to a bus to Blue Line? :-p - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Jeff Broadwick - Lists jeffl...@att.net *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, February 2, 2015 1:44:18 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] SLC Weather I'm just about to get on my flight to SLC on American at O'Hare. On time. The drive in...not so much... Jeff Broadwick ConVergence Technologies, Inc. 312-205-2519 Office 574-220-7826 Cell jbroadw...@converge-tech.com On Feb 2, 2015, at 1:40 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: Anyone get stranded in Chicago last night or today? My Columbus-Chicago flight was cancelled and re-routed through Dallas. They said blizzard conditions in Chicago thia morning on the radio. Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Feb 1, 2015, at 10:13 PM, Nate Burke n...@blastcomm.com wrote: Do I see right that it's supposed to be in the high 50's low 60's all next week? I was going to pack my boots, but looks like I won't need them. Nate
Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiber port?
My DC sites are just power to the unit (packetflux usually). Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 3, 2015 11:46 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: I'd be interested to know if these tower-top DC protectors are going just before the radio (mere inches), at the PDU you're using or somewhere else. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Tuesday, February 3, 2015 10:43:54 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiber port? Those of you who are running direct DC, are you using tower top surge protectors? Anyone have an example of these you can link me to? On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: BTW: My intent with dual SFPs is to allow for router maintenance without losing the link. Dual cable everything, then you can perform maintenance (intentional or not) and you keep passing bits. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com *To: *af af@afmug.com *Sent: *Tuesday, February 3, 2015 10:29:51 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiber port? There's clearly a market for radios with SFP ports, I really don't understand why they aren't making them. MIkrotik routers only cost $5-$10 extra with an SFP port, so it can't cost that much, and that can easily be passed on to us without anyone complaining... well, assuming they keep making a cheap version without SFP, I imagine there would be riots on the ubiquiti forums if they tried to raise the price of radios by more than $0.12 On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 10:19 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: Exactly. Run two cables with 24 or more strands up diverse paths. SFP to each device. I'd like to see dual SFPs on every device and SFP+s on devices that could possibly surpass 1G, but one step at a time. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Tuesday, February 3, 2015 10:17:18 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiber port? If literally every device on the tower had an SFP I'd be in heaven. I'd run TWO cables for DOZENS of devices. Fiber patch cables everywhere on the tower!!! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 11:10 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: SFP every single tower and enterprise device. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Tuesday, February 3, 2015 9:30:02 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiber port? SFP should be on backhauls. For APs I don't think I'd use it. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 3, 2015 10:22 AM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: I really can't see a good reason for airFiber not to have an SFP port... I really don't think anyone would mind if it added a couple bucks to the cost. I think it would even make sense to have an SFP option on something like the titanium Rockets... the standard Rockets, no probably not. On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 8:46 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: You can do that on a separate DC system. I've seen multiple manufacturers say you can't on a PoE system. Are your links filling the GigE? Most of the time people aren't concerned with protecting the radio, but whatever likely more expensive gear is inside or the structure itself. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Tuesday, February 3, 2015 8:40:31 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiberport? Many manufacturers recommend surge protectors at both ends. It’s certainly possible, I have licensed gigabit POE radios with protectors top and bottom and no errors. I’ve never seen how a surge protector at the bottom of the tower protects the radio at the top, seems like it protects the router/switch/POE. Not saying I love my Purewave system, but it has 48VDC on a separate pair of wires and they have you put DC protectors top and bottom. They told me field failures of basestations went way down with the addition of the DC protectors. And capacitance is no issue, you can put big old MOVs, gas tubes, diodes, whatever you want on there to absorb
Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiber port?
If literally every device on the tower had an SFP I'd be in heaven. I'd run TWO cables for DOZENS of devices. Fiber patch cables everywhere on the tower!!! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 11:10 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: SFP every single tower and enterprise device. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Tuesday, February 3, 2015 9:30:02 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiber port? SFP should be on backhauls. For APs I don't think I'd use it. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 3, 2015 10:22 AM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: I really can't see a good reason for airFiber not to have an SFP port... I really don't think anyone would mind if it added a couple bucks to the cost. I think it would even make sense to have an SFP option on something like the titanium Rockets... the standard Rockets, no probably not. On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 8:46 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: You can do that on a separate DC system. I've seen multiple manufacturers say you can't on a PoE system. Are your links filling the GigE? Most of the time people aren't concerned with protecting the radio, but whatever likely more expensive gear is inside or the structure itself. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Tuesday, February 3, 2015 8:40:31 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiberport? Many manufacturers recommend surge protectors at both ends. It’s certainly possible, I have licensed gigabit POE radios with protectors top and bottom and no errors. I’ve never seen how a surge protector at the bottom of the tower protects the radio at the top, seems like it protects the router/switch/POE. Not saying I love my Purewave system, but it has 48VDC on a separate pair of wires and they have you put DC protectors top and bottom. They told me field failures of basestations went way down with the addition of the DC protectors. And capacitance is no issue, you can put big old MOVs, gas tubes, diodes, whatever you want on there to absorb the surge. *From:* Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net *Sent:* Tuesday, February 03, 2015 7:04 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiber port? Easier to protect power alone than power + data. Usually I see the data going out anyway vs. the power side. I really did mean ESD as I separated ESD and lightning. Usually the manufacturer recommends only one additional surge suppression device as to data capacitance issues. That restriction goes away with separate power + data (over fiber). - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, February 2, 2015 10:48:29 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiberport? Why do you say no more ESD issues? (I think you really mean lightning issues, I don’t buy this wind blowing across the plastic nonsense.) A lot of the time when radios get zapped, it’s the power circuitry that’s damaged. You are still powering the radio over copper. Until you figure out how to power it with light, you are vulnerable to surges. It helps a lot if you put a DC surge protector right at the radio, but how many people do? And as long as you have a coax jumper to the antenna, you are vulnerable to surges finding a path from the antenna to ground via the radio. Again, can be mitigated with a good coax surge protector, but how many people do that? Inside a POE fed radio, there should be transformers in the data path, it’s the power path that has DC continuity. The Ethernet transformers should provide quite a bit of resistance to surges due to primary/secondary isolation, possibly a ground foil between primary and secondary, plus differential surges should be attenuated by transformer core saturation. So the most vulnerable circuitry is the power path. Which still exists if you have DC power and data over fiber. *From:* Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net *Sent:* Monday, February 02, 2015 10:35 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiber port? No more ESD issues. No more lightning issues. No more RF issues. *EVERYTHING* on a tower should be fiber. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From
Re: [AFMUG] Everyone.Net
I'm amazed how they can charge customers $5 for an account. Even if it did work all the time. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 11:24 AM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: We ran our own email server with 12,000 email accounts. It took up about 2 hours per week for a sysadmin person. Not really that hard. Everyone.Net is STILL having issues with their email systems. Going on 24 hours now. Amazing how they can still be in business. Travis On 2/2/2015 9:06 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: On 2/2/15 6:40 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Email is hard It's not technically hard. But email needs a lot of babysitting now. It's a burden to deal with the moving target of spam, scams, phishing, and viruses. Add to that users complaining about too much spam, false positives, deleted an email they really needed right now, not enough spam, etc. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] Net Neutrality - CNN front page
Still the same rate, even after title II* *additional fees apply to pay for your favorite politicians steak Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 10:37 AM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: If we get forced into this public utility BS i see raising prices to the customer as essential. Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Feb 3, 2015, at 8:17 AM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote: I assume you’re joking. But I’ll bet 24.9M / 2.9M with no USF taxes would be an attractive offer to customers! *From:* Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com *Sent:* Tuesday, February 03, 2015 9:09 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Net Neutrality - CNN front page thats the way i am interpretting it, does that mean we dont need to file form 477 anymore too? Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Feb 3, 2015, at 7:41 AM, Brett A Mansfield br...@silverlakeinternet.com wrote: This article said that it will be regulating broadband internet providers more heavily. When the FCC changes the definition of broadband to 25Mb and higher will that mean that most WISPs will be exempt? Thank you, Brett A Mansfield On Feb 3, 2015, at 6:53 AM, Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc t...@franklinisp.net wrote: http://money.cnn.com/2015/02/02/technology/net-neutrality-fcc/index.html *Tyson Burris, President* *Internet Communications Inc.* *739 Commerce Dr.* *Franklin, IN 46131* *317-738-0320 317-738-0320 Daytime #* *317-412-1540 317-412-1540 Cell/Direct #* *Online: **www.surfici.net* image001.png *What can ICI do for you?* *Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh Wifi/Hotzones - IP Security - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure.* *CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail is intended for the* *addressee shown. It contains information that is* *confidential and protected from disclosure. Any review,* *dissemination or use of this transmission or its contents by* *unauthorized organizations or individuals is strictly* *prohibited.*
Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiber port?
I'm not worried about the gig versus 100 meg - I want to remove ethernet problems! That third option skews the results. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 12:17 PM, timothy steele timothy.pct...@gmail.com wrote: Answer Choices– Responses– – YES This Will End Cable Errors on Towers 68.83% 53 – Yes But Only in the AirFiber Family 18.18% 14 – No I See No Point in more then 100Mbps on A Radio or Removing Cable Errors 5.19% 4 – Responses https://www.surveymonkey.com/analyze/D2VeJUcXmFdcCowZwRtn2N3Da91JBfLGGsAylwcdSa4_3D# Other (please specify) 7.79% 6 Total77 On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 12:14 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: Our direct DC is fuse protected at the base, but no surge or protection at the top. I figured the 2amp fuse would be sufficient. On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 9:51 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: My DC sites are just power to the unit (packetflux usually). Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 3, 2015 11:46 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: I'd be interested to know if these tower-top DC protectors are going just before the radio (mere inches), at the PDU you're using or somewhere else. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Tuesday, February 3, 2015 10:43:54 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiber port? Those of you who are running direct DC, are you using tower top surge protectors? Anyone have an example of these you can link me to? On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: BTW: My intent with dual SFPs is to allow for router maintenance without losing the link. Dual cable everything, then you can perform maintenance (intentional or not) and you keep passing bits. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com *To: *af af@afmug.com *Sent: *Tuesday, February 3, 2015 10:29:51 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiber port? There's clearly a market for radios with SFP ports, I really don't understand why they aren't making them. MIkrotik routers only cost $5-$10 extra with an SFP port, so it can't cost that much, and that can easily be passed on to us without anyone complaining... well, assuming they keep making a cheap version without SFP, I imagine there would be riots on the ubiquiti forums if they tried to raise the price of radios by more than $0.12 On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 10:19 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: Exactly. Run two cables with 24 or more strands up diverse paths. SFP to each device. I'd like to see dual SFPs on every device and SFP+s on devices that could possibly surpass 1G, but one step at a time. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Tuesday, February 3, 2015 10:17:18 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiber port? If literally every device on the tower had an SFP I'd be in heaven. I'd run TWO cables for DOZENS of devices. Fiber patch cables everywhere on the tower!!! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 11:10 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: SFP every single tower and enterprise device. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Tuesday, February 3, 2015 9:30:02 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Survay Monkey Should UBNT Make a Radio With AFiber port? SFP should be on backhauls. For APs I don't think I'd use it. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 3, 2015 10:22 AM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: I really can't see a good reason for airFiber not to have an SFP port... I really don't think anyone would mind if it added a couple bucks to the cost. I think it would even make sense to have an SFP option on something like the titanium Rockets... the standard Rockets, no probably not. On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 8:46 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: You can do that on a separate DC system. I've seen multiple manufacturers say you can't on a PoE system. Are your links filling the GigE? Most of the time people aren't concerned with protecting the radio, but whatever likely more expensive gear is inside or the structure itself
Re: [AFMUG] Everyone.Net
LOL! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 3, 2015 12:36 PM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: We ran our own email server with 12,000 email accounts. It took up about 2 hours per week for a sysadmin person. Not really that hard. Everyone.Net is STILL having issues with their email systems. Going on 24 hours now. Amazing how they can still be in business. Travis On 2/2/2015 9:06 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: On 2/2/15 6:40 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Email is hard It's not technically hard. But email needs a lot of babysitting now. It's a burden to deal with the moving target of spam, scams, phishing, and viruses. Add to that users complaining about too much spam, false positives, deleted an email they really needed right now, not enough spam, etc. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] Everyone.Net
Looks like your SMTP server is double sending message XD Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 12:26 PM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: We ran our own email server with 12,000 email accounts. It took up about 2 hours per week for a sysadmin person. Not really that hard. Everyone.Net is STILL having issues with their email systems. Going on 24 hours now. Amazing how they can still be in business. Travis On 2/2/2015 9:06 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: On 2/2/15 6:40 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Email is hard It's not technically hard. But email needs a lot of babysitting now. It's a burden to deal with the moving target of spam, scams, phishing, and viruses. Add to that users complaining about too much spam, false positives, deleted an email they really needed right now, not enough spam, etc. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] Everyone.Net
Geez everyone is so serious :) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 3, 2015 12:28 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: I've had that from my phone in poor signal areas. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Tuesday, February 3, 2015 11:27:40 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Everyone.Net Looks like your SMTP server is double sending message XD Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 12:26 PM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: We ran our own email server with 12,000 email accounts. It took up about 2 hours per week for a sysadmin person. Not really that hard. Everyone.Net is STILL having issues with their email systems. Going on 24 hours now. Amazing how they can still be in business. Travis On 2/2/2015 9:06 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: On 2/2/15 6:40 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Email is hard It's not technically hard. But email needs a lot of babysitting now. It's a burden to deal with the moving target of spam, scams, phishing, and viruses. Add to that users complaining about too much spam, false positives, deleted an email they really needed right now, not enough spam, etc. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] 3.65 PTP450
Los 10 megs? Ubnt... On Feb 3, 2015 2:41 PM, Dan Petermann d...@wyoming.com wrote: What kind of distance are you guys seeing for a LOS shot on 3.65? What antennas are you using to get that distance. I need 10Mbs aggregate.
Re: [AFMUG] SAF freemile
The website is self register last I used it. On Feb 3, 2015 2:56 PM, Andreas Wiatowski andr...@silowireless.com wrote: If you can provide me with a login and password to download the latest firmwares for the SAF product line…that would be great. We had to replace a FM5 on one end…firmware was not matching…but it’s working fine…just want to update so they match. Cheers, Andreas Wiatowski, CEO Silo Wireless Inc. 1-866-727-4138 x-600 Web: www.silowireless.com Facebook: www.facebook.com/silowireless Twitter: @silowireless *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Daniel White *Sent:* February 3, 2015 1:18 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SAF freemile An archive? What do you need Andreas? Also FM5 or FM5-GE? *** Daniel White - Managing Director SAF North America LLC Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com Skype: danieldwhite Social: LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84 *** *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Andreas Wiatowski *Sent:* Tuesday, February 3, 2015 9:29 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] SAF freemile Anyone have an archive of SAF Freemile 5 ghz product??? Cheers, Andreas Wiatowski, CEO Silo Wireless Inc. 1-866-727-4138 x-600 Web: www.silowireless.com Facebook: www.facebook.com/silowireless Twitter: @silowireless
Re: [AFMUG] Everyone.Net
I think he's resending it for the lulz Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 3, 2015 2:27 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: Travis, we know! Gino A. Villarini @gvillarini On Feb 3, 2015, at 2:37 PM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: We ran our own email server with 12,000 email accounts. It took up about 2 hours per week for a sysadmin person. Not really that hard. Everyone.Net is STILL having issues with their email systems. Going on 28 hours now. Amazing how they can still be in business. Travis On 2/2/2015 9:06 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: On 2/2/15 6:40 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Email is hard It's not technically hard. But email needs a lot of babysitting now. It's a burden to deal with the moving target of spam, scams, phishing, and viruses. Add to that users complaining about too much spam, false positives, deleted an email they really needed right now, not enough spam, etc. ~Seth
[AFMUG] LinkPlanner TDWR notice
So it seems 4.2.2 gives you a big red error letting you know that you're near TDWR if you specify the 5.4 band. Unfortunately the URL to register my wireless link is broken: http://spectrumbridge.com/udrs/home.aspx Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373
Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Buildout Forum
There are Powercode users with fttp customers. It's ask Ethernet so it will work. There isn't any auto config stuff though, you'll get DHCP and bandwidth shaping only. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 7, 2015 2:36 PM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote: 1. Attached. 2. RB2011 or GPON ONU. Flat drop to side of the house, outdoor NID where flat drop is terminated, either a 50-75' jumper or bend insensitive fiber going into the inside of the home plugging into the electronics indoor. 3. Not using peds, handhole with splice case or TE MST. 4. Don't know, not a PC user. 5. Google Maps. Using a locator. Regards, Chuck On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 7:36 AM, Trevor Bough trevorbo...@gmail.com wrote: Hey guys, I really enjoyed the fiber build out forum and have come up with a few questions since lunch yesterday: 1. Would you be able to make those power points available to the list? 2. What all equipment do you actually have at the house? Are you running the fiber up to the house and then making it the customers responsibility from there? Or are you running some interior Ethernet cable for people? 3. Could I get a rough list of what is actually going in the neighborhood peds? 4. Are you still able to use Powercode (or whatever you are using for your wireless customers) for your billing/monitoring/rates? Or did you have to get a secondary system to handle the fiber customers? 5. How are you keeping track of where your underground facilities are for years down the road? Are you using GPS coordinates at endpoints and service connections, measurements off of cross streets, or just planning to be able to use a locator to find it?
Re: [AFMUG] Introducing airFiber X
You mean stealing Mimosa thunder wave... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 3, 2015 6:34 PM, Jon Auer j...@tapodi.net wrote: Seems like a perfect niche to me. Should fill the gap between rocket / epmp PTP and licensed quite nicely and for a lot less $$$ than ptp3/5/600. On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 5:27 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: Too late! So only 500 Mbps total! Gino A. Villarini @gvillarini On Feb 3, 2015, at 7:22 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: ;-) What link? On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 4:20 PM, Brett A Mansfield br...@silverlakeinternet.com wrote: WOW! Ubiquiti sure pulled that link down fast. It’s no longer found. Thank you, Brett A Masnfield Silver Lake Internet, LLC On Feb 3, 2015, at 4:14 PM, Josh Baird joshba...@gmail.com wrote: So, how much are the dishes that they require? --- The airFiber AF-5X radio operates only with an airFiber antenna or a retrofitted RocketDish™ antenna. airFiber antenna models: • AF-5G23-S45 • AF-5G30-S45 • AF-5G34-S45 Retrofit accessory for RocketDish (RD-5G30/RD-5G34): • AF-5G-OMT-S45 On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 6:10 PM, Jon Auer j...@tapodi.net wrote: Looks like you were right: http://dl.ubnt.com/guides/airfiber/airFiber_AF-5X_QSG.pdf On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 1:50 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: I'm guessing 5 GHz connectorized. $399 sure can't have as much material as the larger units. It looks to be small, like a standard radio. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *SmarterBroadband li...@smarterbroadband.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, February 2, 2015 1:47:29 PM *Subject: *[AFMUG] FW: Introducing airFiber X Here is a copy of the email. Adam *From:* Ubiquiti Networks [mailto:sales= ubnt@mail54.atl31.mcdlv.net] *On Behalf Of *Ubiquiti Networks *Sent:* Monday, February 02, 2015 11:02 AM *To:* Adam Brodel *Subject:* Introducing airFiber X image001.jpg http://ubnt.us8.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=ed1e87009ee=746526be63 BROADBAND http://ubnt.us8.list-manage2.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=bcbe47c48ce=746526be63 ENTERPRISE http://ubnt.us8.list-manage.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=fac32e8421e=746526be63 PRODUCTS http://ubnt.us8.list-manage.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=011e493584e=746526be63 SUPPORT http://ubnt.us8.list-manage.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=c676247d51e=746526be63 BUY http://ubnt.us8.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=a56a27f01de=746526be63 The New PtP Standard for the Global WISP Industry image002.jpg Starting at image003.png World-Breaking Range | airFiber Radio Technology -- Platform Unveiling Wednesday, February 4 Copyright © 2015, Ubiquiti Networks, Inc. All Rights Reserved Ubiquiti Networks 2580 Orchard Parkway San Jose, CA 95131 USA Share this on: image004.png http://www.facebook.com/share.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fus8.campaign-archive1.com%2F%3Fu%3Dbc856e62a9254399365d0277b%26id%3D4cd5228944t=Introducing%20airFiber%20X image005.png http://twitter.com/intent/tweet?text=Introducing%20airFiber%20X%20-%20http%3A%2F%2Feepurl.com%2FbcZJBL image006.png http://www.linkedin.com/shareArticle?mini=trueurl=http%3A%2F%2Fus8.campaign-archive1.com%2F%3Fu%3Dbc856e62a9254399365d0277b%26id%3D4cd5228944title=Introducing%20airFiber%20X image007.png http://us8.forward-to-friend2.com/forward?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=4cd5228944e=746526be63 Unsubscribe http://ubnt.us8.list-manage.com/unsubscribe?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=1c1b02cb37e=746526be63c=4cd5228944 | Update Preferences http://ubnt.us8.list-manage.com/profile?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=1c1b02cb37e=746526be63 | View in browser http://us8.campaign-archive2.com/?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=4cd5228944e=746526be63 Follow: Facebook http://ubnt.us8.list-manage.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=5b8ef22f32e=746526be63 | Twitter http://ubnt.us8.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=23d150712de=746526be63 | YouTube http://ubnt.us8.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=1d2d4b0307e=746526be63 http://ubnt.us8.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=4458951288e=746526be63 image008.gif
Re: [AFMUG] Everyone.Net
Wait...you sent a message complaining that SMTP was down using the server that the complaint was about? You sound like a customer! ;) On Feb 3, 2015 2:56 PM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: All those message were not me... that was one of the great features of the Everyone.Net mail system mess. I only sent the message once. Travis On 2/3/2015 12:27 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: Travis, we know! Gino A. Villarini @gvillarini On Feb 3, 2015, at 2:37 PM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: We ran our own email server with 12,000 email accounts. It took up about 2 hours per week for a sysadmin person. Not really that hard. Everyone.Net is STILL having issues with their email systems. Going on 28 hours now. Amazing how they can still be in business. Travis On 2/2/2015 9:06 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: On 2/2/15 6:40 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Email is hard It's not technically hard. But email needs a lot of babysitting now. It's a burden to deal with the moving target of spam, scams, phishing, and viruses. Add to that users complaining about too much spam, false positives, deleted an email they really needed right now, not enough spam, etc. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] Rodizio's
Personally I prefer Rodizo. Regardless of price. I'm not a huge fan of steak and food taste/quality dominates all my decision material. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 3, 2015 7:47 PM, Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com wrote: That should be an easy call, they've only got Ruths Chris's, uheverywhere. On Tuesday, February 3, 2015, Paul McCall pa...@pdmnet.net wrote: uh oh ! We have a split decision brewing... some are going OFDM and some are going Wimax. -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Craig House Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 7:42 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Rodizio's Ruth's Cris is too rich for my credit card limit. I'll be at rodizio's at 6:30 or 7. Staring at ramada also but will take the tram probably Sent from my iPhone
Re: [AFMUG] FW: Introducing airFiber X
Right by all the other radios. Also I suspect you'd put this on the pipe. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 3, 2015 6:49 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: Right between the radio and the pipe? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tue, 03 Feb 2015 17:47:06 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FW: Introducing airFiber X You mean the entire front face couldn't fit a tiny LCD? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 3, 2015 6:44 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: Probably no room with the form factor. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tue, 03 Feb 2015 17:15:57 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FW: Introducing airFiber X Couldn't afford the rssi LCD? Come on now... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 3, 2015 6:10 PM, Jon Auer j...@tapodi.net wrote: Looks like you were right: http://dl.ubnt.com/guides/airfiber/airFiber_AF-5X_QSG.pdf On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 1:50 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: I'm guessing 5 GHz connectorized. $399 sure can't have as much material as the larger units. It looks to be small, like a standard radio. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *SmarterBroadband li...@smarterbroadband.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, February 2, 2015 1:47:29 PM *Subject: *[AFMUG] FW: Introducing airFiber X Here is a copy of the email. Adam *From:* Ubiquiti Networks [mailto:sales= ubnt@mail54.atl31.mcdlv.net] *On Behalf Of *Ubiquiti Networks *Sent:* Monday, February 02, 2015 11:02 AM *To:* Adam Brodel *Subject:* Introducing airFiber X [image: Ubiquiti Networks] http://ubnt.us8.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=ed1e87009ee=746526be63 BROADBAND http://ubnt.us8.list-manage2.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=bcbe47c48ce=746526be63 ENTERPRISE http://ubnt.us8.list-manage.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=fac32e8421e=746526be63 PRODUCTS http://ubnt.us8.list-manage.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=011e493584e=746526be63 SUPPORT http://ubnt.us8.list-manage.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=c676247d51e=746526be63 BUY http://ubnt.us8.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=a56a27f01de=746526be63 The New PtP Standard for the Global WISP Industry [image: https://gallery.mailchimp.com/bc856e62a9254399365d0277b/images/50dd9ceb-25be-42ef-a292-1267e5a124fb.jpg ] Starting at [image: $399 MSRP] World-Breaking Range | airFiber Radio Technology -- Platform Unveiling Wednesday, February 4 Copyright © 2015, Ubiquiti Networks, Inc. All Rights Reserved Ubiquiti Networks 2580 Orchard Parkway San Jose, CA 95131 USA Share this on: [image: https://gallery.mailchimp.com/bc856e62a9254399365d0277b/images/7f3dc1b4-79ec-48a6-941f-25d685244c58.png ] http://www.facebook.com/share.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fus8.campaign-archive1.com%2F%3Fu%3Dbc856e62a9254399365d0277b%26id%3D4cd5228944t=Introducing%20airFiber%20X [image: https://gallery.mailchimp.com/bc856e62a9254399365d0277b/images/320ce1e0-edfd-4463-a908-49e2bad3cb01.png ] http://twitter.com/intent/tweet?text=Introducing%20airFiber%20X%20-%20http%3A%2F%2Feepurl.com%2FbcZJBL [image: https://gallery.mailchimp.com/bc856e62a9254399365d0277b/images/0ca68975-9f4f-4102-bb45-5cf98e655a85.png ] http://www.linkedin.com/shareArticle?mini=trueurl=http%3A%2F%2Fus8.campaign-archive1.com%2F%3Fu%3Dbc856e62a9254399365d0277b%26id%3D4cd5228944title=Introducing%20airFiber%20X [image: https://gallery.mailchimp.com/bc856e62a9254399365d0277b/images/269ac13c-4f54-41d9-a822-b7930bc93e93.png ] http://us8.forward-to-friend2.com/forward?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=4cd5228944e=746526be63 Unsubscribe http://ubnt.us8.list-manage.com/unsubscribe?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=1c1b02cb37e=746526be63c=4cd5228944 | Update Preferences http://ubnt.us8.list-manage.com/profile?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=1c1b02cb37e=746526be63 | View in browser http://us8.campaign-archive2.com/?u=bc856e62a9254399365d0277bid=4cd5228944e=746526be63 Follow: Facebook http://ubnt.us8.list-manage.com/track/click?u
Re: [AFMUG] FW: Introducing airFiber X
Specs and stuff Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 3, 2015 7:17 PM, Matt matt.mailingli...@gmail.com wrote: Looks like you were right: http://dl.ubnt.com/guides/airfiber/airFiber_AF-5X_QSG.pdf So what did it say before they took it down
Re: [AFMUG] Quick AF hotel question
Traci, What hotel is AFMUG using? I'd like to use the hotel that everyone else is staying at and help promote the event. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 3:57 PM, Traci tr...@wbmfg.com wrote: They are telling us that significant upgrades have been done in the last couple of years. Not sure if its enough to handle this group ;-) . With the Shilo being sold to Holiday Inn, I'm ready not sure what to expect this year from them either. I know registration has been a problem for many who have tried to reserve. On 1/14/2015 10:52 AM, Nate Burke wrote: Anybody talked to the Ramada to get a feel for their Wifi setup? I think the Shilo had multipe AP's per floor, and wasn't it fed with beehive fiber? Will the Ramada be able to support us, or will it crash and burn?
Re: [AFMUG] Gas Prices
I think with the highest battery pack in a Model S you can get across the country. Through one route. No off route stops. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 15, 2015 10:40 AM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: There are still TONS of places you can't drive between their charger stations and get around the country. Check out their map and see. The funny thing to me is they make all these announcements of a $35,000 car, but not available until 2017. Really? You've had the last 3-5 years to be working on it, why is it another two years to actually have something? Travis On 1/15/2015 7:35 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: Tell that to Tesla. *From:* Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *Sent:* Thursday, January 15, 2015 7:33 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gas Prices But that car has to restricted to a couple hundred miles of home. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 15, 2015 9:31 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Solar powered car. Solar powered house. Eventually solar powered garden too. Oil? What is oil? *From:* Forrest Christian (List Account) li...@packetflux.com *Sent:* Wednesday, January 14, 2015 8:49 PM *To:* af af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gas Prices For our future, and totally ignoring the short-term repercussions,one of the best things I think that could happen is that the price of oil to go to like $250/barrel and stay there. We really need to spend the money as a country on moving to whatever's next. There are a lot of viable options which should have costs lower than oil. Unfortunately at $50/barrel the RD and infrastructure buildout costs look silly to spend. (Why spend billions moving to something that costs basically the same as what we have, with an infrastructure already in place). At the $100/barrel pricing things were finally starting to move in the right direction. At even higher, all of a sudden the political and financial motivation is there to make what should be happening happen. On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 5:59 AM, David Milholen dmilho...@wletc.com wrote: Its a ploy to slow production of more energy efficient vehicles. On 1/14/2015 5:30 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote: There's an old, insightful joke about what is the best price to sell barrels of oil for, which states that it's something like $100, $100, $100, $100, $20, $20, $100, $100, $100. At $100 everyone is eager to turn up production and do things like hydraulic fracturing. At $20, there's a lot of hurt in those same industries. There is a lot of political and economic force in the ability to effectively increase and decrease the rarity of a commodity, and as a side effect, it's price, with a turn of a valve. With additional US sources coming online, and OPEC deciding not to cut production, there's now a glut in the market. The question is ... at what level is this sustainable stateside? I haven't seen a good analysis of the impact of these lower crude prices on domestic production and more importantly our willingness to invest in growth of our production capabilities. Personally, I have mixed feelings. I like the price of gas when I get to the pump, but I also sell into the oil industry, which I sure hope continues to drill wells, since it's very good for my bottom line. -forrest On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 6:58 PM, Caleb Knauer cknauer.li...@gmail.com wrote: Yep. Shuts down the oil sands (for a bit), slaps Russia/Venezuela in the face, cranks down on the mid-tier producers like Nigeria trying to squeeze into the market, etc. It's multiple birds with one stone. US oil production will drop, oil sands bubble will pop, and all sorts of gloom and doom until prices naturally go back up and we spin up production again. The oil guys will take a hammering and I feel bad for them, but all bubbles burst. A lot of Americans will have a net benefit. Macroeconomics is complex. On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 8:40 PM, Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com wrote: From what I've read the drop is pretty much exclusively because of OPEC. On Tuesday, January 13, 2015, Erich Kaiser er...@northcentraltower.com wrote: I think a lot of the low prices are due to abundance of oil right here in the US from Fracking and Tar sands from Canada. I bet eventually when the additional pipeline capacity is completed it may drive things even lower, but that is just my thought. It would be nice if they could do the same with grain. On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 12:53 PM, That One Guy thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote: I dont know how petroleum stores, the costs of operating, etc. But I look at it as right now being a great time to get in on it, when the rubber band snaps, you would already be at peak production capacity
Re: [AFMUG] Site to site vpn
Mikrotik. PPTP is my favorite. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 12:42 PM, joseph marsh bwireless...@gmail.com wrote: What us the best way to do a site to site vpn. I have a site 30 miles and 17 miles from my office and would like to make radio changes from my office if possible
Re: [AFMUG] UglyPoE Mk. II
I'm using Hitachi batteries. More than enough juice and it leaves us with 1 charger and 1 battery type. Extra chargers/parts/etc sound messy. In case you didn't see, here is mine: https://www.dropbox.com/s/jhvnb78exjx7t42/2015-01-08%2016.45.02.jpg?dl=0 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Vlad Sedov v...@atlasok.com wrote: I have the AP velcroed to the battery shoe.. Ended up using the regular DC jack to power it. And yeah, the switch toggles polarity. I think Mk. III is going to be completely contained in one small enclosure, and will be powered by a Lithium battery of some sort, to save weight and size. vlad On 1/15/2015 11:25 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: How does the map2 get on the battery? Does that switch change polarity for that moto pigtail? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 15, 2015 12:22 PM, Vlad Sedov v...@atlasok.com wrote: Ok, so I followed the advice from the list.. Got a couple of mAP2n doohickeys. Then made this. It turned out uglier than the first one. Funciton over form.. blah. Very simple config.. single SSID with masquerading to access all different radios from a cellphone. vlad
Re: [AFMUG] Site to site vpn
Sure you can. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 15, 2015 1:29 PM, joseph marsh bwireless...@gmail.com wrote: Can I do multiple sites? Or just point A to point B On Jan 15, 2015 12:09 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote: Link technologies or butch evans can set this up for you Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone - Reply message - From: joseph marsh bwireless...@gmail.com To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Site to site vpn Date: Thu, Jan 15, 2015 11:42 AM What us the best way to do a site to site vpn. I have a site 30 miles and 17 miles from my office and would like to make radio changes from my office if possible
Re: [AFMUG] UglyPoE Mk. II
How does the map2 get on the battery? Does that switch change polarity for that moto pigtail? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 15, 2015 12:22 PM, Vlad Sedov v...@atlasok.com wrote: Ok, so I followed the advice from the list.. Got a couple of mAP2n doohickeys. Then made this. It turned out uglier than the first one. Funciton over form.. blah. Very simple config.. single SSID with masquerading to access all different radios from a cellphone. vlad
Re: [AFMUG] EPMP force 110 installation
Oh be careful when you push the radio up, hold the cables down towards the dish. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 15, 2015 10:43 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Left to left, right to right. You don't cross cables. Also, it doesn't matter except in the event you do a single pol spectrum scan. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 15, 2015 10:39 AM, Nate Burke n...@blastcomm.com wrote: My guys assembled the Force 110 dishes and promptly threw away the instructions. I'm trying to hook up the radio now, which coax is connected to which lead on the radio? There is the black banded coax, and the grey banded coax. The cambium site is being less than usefull as it keeps requesting me to enter all info for marketing, even though I'm logged in. Google isn't being much help either.
Re: [AFMUG] Gas Prices
Wow coal dropped didn't it? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 15, 2015 11:03 AM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: What's really funny is that everyone thinks electricity is free. We are still using natural resources to make the electricity: In 2013, energy sources and percent share of total electricity generation were - Coal 39% - Natural Gas 27% - Nuclear 19% - Hydropower 7% - Other Renewable 6% - Biomass 1.48% - Geothermal 0.41% - Solar 0.23% - Wind 4.13% - Petroleum 1% - Other Gases 1% So coal and natural gas make up 66% of electricity production. Travis On 1/15/2015 8:51 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: Batteries suck too much for that to happen IMO. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 15, 2015 10:48 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: Hydrogen seems like a better option to me, or at least a hydrogen hybrid. Normally charge at home, work, whatever, but have a hydrogen tank for range and quick fill up. That or a major increase in the electrical systems to have charging stations all over and you plug in everywhere you go. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, January 15, 2015 8:33:33 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Gas Prices But that car has to restricted to a couple hundred miles of home. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 15, 2015 9:31 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Solar powered car. Solar powered house. Eventually solar powered garden too. Oil? What is oil? *From:* Forrest Christian (List Account) li...@packetflux.com *Sent:* Wednesday, January 14, 2015 8:49 PM *To:* af af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gas Prices For our future, and totally ignoring the short-term repercussions,one of the best things I think that could happen is that the price of oil to go to like $250/barrel and stay there. We really need to spend the money as a country on moving to whatever's next. There are a lot of viable options which should have costs lower than oil. Unfortunately at $50/barrel the RD and infrastructure buildout costs look silly to spend. (Why spend billions moving to something that costs basically the same as what we have, with an infrastructure already in place). At the $100/barrel pricing things were finally starting to move in the right direction. At even higher, all of a sudden the political and financial motivation is there to make what should be happening happen. On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 5:59 AM, David Milholen dmilho...@wletc.com wrote: Its a ploy to slow production of more energy efficient vehicles. On 1/14/2015 5:30 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote: There's an old, insightful joke about what is the best price to sell barrels of oil for, which states that it's something like $100, $100, $100, $100, $20, $20, $100, $100, $100. At $100 everyone is eager to turn up production and do things like hydraulic fracturing. At $20, there's a lot of hurt in those same industries. There is a lot of political and economic force in the ability to effectively increase and decrease the rarity of a commodity, and as a side effect, it's price, with a turn of a valve. With additional US sources coming online, and OPEC deciding not to cut production, there's now a glut in the market. The question is ... at what level is this sustainable stateside? I haven't seen a good analysis of the impact of these lower crude prices on domestic production and more importantly our willingness to invest in growth of our production capabilities. Personally, I have mixed feelings. I like the price of gas when I get to the pump, but I also sell into the oil industry, which I sure hope continues to drill wells, since it's very good for my bottom line. -forrest On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 6:58 PM, Caleb Knauer cknauer.li...@gmail.com wrote: Yep. Shuts down the oil sands (for a bit), slaps Russia/Venezuela in the face, cranks down on the mid-tier producers like Nigeria trying to squeeze into the market, etc. It's multiple birds with one stone. US oil production will drop, oil sands bubble will pop, and all sorts of gloom and doom until prices naturally go back up and we spin up production again. The oil guys will take a hammering and I feel bad for them, but all bubbles burst. A lot of Americans will have a net benefit. Macroeconomics is complex. On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 8:40 PM, Jason
Re: [AFMUG] Gas Prices
Batteries suck too much for that to happen IMO. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 15, 2015 10:48 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: Hydrogen seems like a better option to me, or at least a hydrogen hybrid. Normally charge at home, work, whatever, but have a hydrogen tank for range and quick fill up. That or a major increase in the electrical systems to have charging stations all over and you plug in everywhere you go. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, January 15, 2015 8:33:33 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Gas Prices But that car has to restricted to a couple hundred miles of home. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 15, 2015 9:31 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Solar powered car. Solar powered house. Eventually solar powered garden too. Oil? What is oil? *From:* Forrest Christian (List Account) li...@packetflux.com *Sent:* Wednesday, January 14, 2015 8:49 PM *To:* af af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gas Prices For our future, and totally ignoring the short-term repercussions,one of the best things I think that could happen is that the price of oil to go to like $250/barrel and stay there. We really need to spend the money as a country on moving to whatever's next. There are a lot of viable options which should have costs lower than oil. Unfortunately at $50/barrel the RD and infrastructure buildout costs look silly to spend. (Why spend billions moving to something that costs basically the same as what we have, with an infrastructure already in place). At the $100/barrel pricing things were finally starting to move in the right direction. At even higher, all of a sudden the political and financial motivation is there to make what should be happening happen. On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 5:59 AM, David Milholen dmilho...@wletc.com wrote: Its a ploy to slow production of more energy efficient vehicles. On 1/14/2015 5:30 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote: There's an old, insightful joke about what is the best price to sell barrels of oil for, which states that it's something like $100, $100, $100, $100, $20, $20, $100, $100, $100. At $100 everyone is eager to turn up production and do things like hydraulic fracturing. At $20, there's a lot of hurt in those same industries. There is a lot of political and economic force in the ability to effectively increase and decrease the rarity of a commodity, and as a side effect, it's price, with a turn of a valve. With additional US sources coming online, and OPEC deciding not to cut production, there's now a glut in the market. The question is ... at what level is this sustainable stateside? I haven't seen a good analysis of the impact of these lower crude prices on domestic production and more importantly our willingness to invest in growth of our production capabilities. Personally, I have mixed feelings. I like the price of gas when I get to the pump, but I also sell into the oil industry, which I sure hope continues to drill wells, since it's very good for my bottom line. -forrest On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 6:58 PM, Caleb Knauer cknauer.li...@gmail.com wrote: Yep. Shuts down the oil sands (for a bit), slaps Russia/Venezuela in the face, cranks down on the mid-tier producers like Nigeria trying to squeeze into the market, etc. It's multiple birds with one stone. US oil production will drop, oil sands bubble will pop, and all sorts of gloom and doom until prices naturally go back up and we spin up production again. The oil guys will take a hammering and I feel bad for them, but all bubbles burst. A lot of Americans will have a net benefit. Macroeconomics is complex. On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 8:40 PM, Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com wrote: From what I've read the drop is pretty much exclusively because of OPEC. On Tuesday, January 13, 2015, Erich Kaiser er...@northcentraltower.com wrote: I think a lot of the low prices are due to abundance of oil right here in the US from Fracking and Tar sands from Canada. I bet eventually when the additional pipeline capacity is completed it may drive things even lower, but that is just my thought. It would be nice if they could do the same with grain. On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 12:53 PM, That One Guy thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote: I dont know how petroleum stores, the costs of operating, etc. But I look at it as right now being a great time to get in on it, when
Re: [AFMUG] holy crap...
Darwinism. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 15, 2015 11:28 AM, Brian Sullivan installe...@foxvalley.net wrote: Scary thing is, there are lightly secured tower sites all over America. Some 15 year old will eventually try this. On 1/15/2015 10:25 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote: Heh. Video just hit the front page of CNN. On January 15, 2015 7:17:16 AM AKST, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: I think it's pretty unlikely that permission wasn't given, since it's on GoPro's youtube channel... but it was still a bad idea. I would bet that the guy that got killed watched this video before he went out and tried it. On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 9:49 AM, Jon Bruce jbruce-af...@ptpbroadband.com wrote: Why does everyone assume permission was not given? On 1/15/2015 10:34 AM, Paul McCall wrote: Idiots…. And, yeah, also pretty irresponsible of GoPro to have it on their Youtube channel. *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds *Sent:* Wednesday, January 14, 2015 7:57 PM *To:* WISPA General List; af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] holy crap... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3q3ZC5fcnY A little too close to those guy wires for my blood. -- josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
Re: [AFMUG] Gas Prices
People keep saying that and those companies keep being closed up. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 15, 2015 10:59 AM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net wrote: I think we are on the cusp of new battery technologies. I believe there are two of them that should triple the range of existing battery packs and getting production of them is just starting. Rory *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Travis Johnson *Sent:* Thursday, January 15, 2015 8:40 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gas Prices There are still TONS of places you can't drive between their charger stations and get around the country. Check out their map and see. The funny thing to me is they make all these announcements of a $35,000 car, but not available until 2017. Really? You've had the last 3-5 years to be working on it, why is it another two years to actually have something? Travis On 1/15/2015 7:35 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: Tell that to Tesla. *From:* Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *Sent:* Thursday, January 15, 2015 7:33 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gas Prices But that car has to restricted to a couple hundred miles of home. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 15, 2015 9:31 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Solar powered car. Solar powered house. Eventually solar powered garden too. Oil? What is oil? *From:* Forrest Christian (List Account) li...@packetflux.com *Sent:* Wednesday, January 14, 2015 8:49 PM *To:* af af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Gas Prices For our future, and totally ignoring the short-term repercussions,one of the best things I think that could happen is that the price of oil to go to like $250/barrel and stay there. We really need to spend the money as a country on moving to whatever's next. There are a lot of viable options which should have costs lower than oil. Unfortunately at $50/barrel the RD and infrastructure buildout costs look silly to spend. (Why spend billions moving to something that costs basically the same as what we have, with an infrastructure already in place). At the $100/barrel pricing things were finally starting to move in the right direction. At even higher, all of a sudden the political and financial motivation is there to make what should be happening happen. On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 5:59 AM, David Milholen dmilho...@wletc.com wrote: Its a ploy to slow production of more energy efficient vehicles. On 1/14/2015 5:30 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote: There's an old, insightful joke about what is the best price to sell barrels of oil for, which states that it's something like $100, $100, $100, $100, $20, $20, $100, $100, $100. At $100 everyone is eager to turn up production and do things like hydraulic fracturing. At $20, there's a lot of hurt in those same industries. There is a lot of political and economic force in the ability to effectively increase and decrease the rarity of a commodity, and as a side effect, it's price, with a turn of a valve. With additional US sources coming online, and OPEC deciding not to cut production, there's now a glut in the market. The question is ... at what level is this sustainable stateside? I haven't seen a good analysis of the impact of these lower crude prices on domestic production and more importantly our willingness to invest in growth of our production capabilities. Personally, I have mixed feelings. I like the price of gas when I get to the pump, but I also sell into the oil industry, which I sure hope continues to drill wells, since it's very good for my bottom line. -forrest On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 6:58 PM, Caleb Knauer cknauer.li...@gmail.com wrote: Yep. Shuts down the oil sands (for a bit), slaps Russia/Venezuela in the face, cranks down on the mid-tier producers like Nigeria trying to squeeze into the market, etc. It's multiple birds with one stone. US oil production will drop, oil sands bubble will pop, and all sorts of gloom and doom until prices naturally go back up and we spin up production again. The oil guys will take a hammering and I feel bad for them, but all bubbles burst. A lot of Americans will have a net benefit. Macroeconomics is complex. On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 8:40 PM, Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com wrote: From what I've read the drop is pretty much exclusively because of OPEC. On Tuesday, January 13, 2015, Erich Kaiser er...@northcentraltower.com wrote: I think a lot of the low prices are due to abundance of oil right here in the US from Fracking and Tar sands from Canada. I bet eventually when the additional pipeline capacity is completed it may drive things even lower, but that is just my thought. It would
Re: [AFMUG] ePMP remote power
Definitely. I've been doing it for weeks. The SM goes as low as 10v I believe. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 5:33 PM, Jay Weekley par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote: Will my 18 volt battery that I've been using for my Canopy and Ubiuiti installs power an ePMP sm? I'm reluctant to try it before hearing otherwise.
Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Modulation/Capacity Chart
How about something for the climbers? Y'know, the guys that need to know this information... http://www.cafepress.com/+personalisable_sports_bottle,1397479670 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 7:17 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote: Found the chart. Was not dreaming about the coffee mugs. Don’t have one though. Hint, hint. *From:* Daniel White afmu...@gmail.com *Sent:* Saturday, May 10, 2014 11:46 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [BULK] [AFMUG] Modulation/Capacity Chart This is on our new coffee mugs… thought it might be useful to everyone as reference. [image: cid:image001.jpg@01CE2975.BD4B6370] *Daniel White* | Managing Director *SAF North America LLC* *Cell:* (303) 746-3590 *Skype:* danieldwhite *E-mail:* daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com -- - Animal Farm Microwave Users Group - www.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Quick AF hotel question
Uh do you know what a hotspot is? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 4:06 PM, TJ Trout t...@voltbb.com wrote: Lol who uses wifi anyway ? Don't u guys have cell phones with a Hotspot if necessary ? On Jan 15, 2015 12:54 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: I hope I get the room next to you so I can use two 40 MHz channels in 2.4. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 3:52 PM, Nate Burke n...@blastcomm.com wrote: Im all verizon as well, Maybe the true reason for this thread is to scare people into just using their hotspots leaving all the wifis for me! On 1/15/2015 2:25 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Verizon works quite well in SLC. If you need a hotspot for some emergency repair hit me up, but if you want to Netflix in the hotel for hours on end look elsewhere =P Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 3:19 PM, Nate Burke n...@blastcomm.com wrote: Just FYI, when you go to Eventbrite to register, it still lists the Holiday Inn there, but the link back to the Afmug page is updated. I just changed my Reservation over to the Ramada. I talked to the front desk, (so take this info with that in mind) He said that they have 3 separate networks, one for each building, and there are multiple AP's within each building. He did not know the size of their internet pipe. Nate On 1/14/2015 3:02 PM, Traci wrote: The Ramada Inn, their information is listed on the AFMUG website. On 1/14/2015 2:00 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Traci, What hotel is AFMUG using? I'd like to use the hotel that everyone else is staying at and help promote the event. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 3:57 PM, Traci tr...@wbmfg.com wrote: They are telling us that significant upgrades have been done in the last couple of years. Not sure if its enough to handle this group ;-) . With the Shilo being sold to Holiday Inn, I'm ready not sure what to expect this year from them either. I know registration has been a problem for many who have tried to reserve. On 1/14/2015 10:52 AM, Nate Burke wrote: Anybody talked to the Ramada to get a feel for their Wifi setup? I think the Shilo had multipe AP's per floor, and wasn't it fed with beehive fiber? Will the Ramada be able to support us, or will it crash and burn?
Re: [AFMUG] Quick AF hotel question
Verizon works quite well in SLC. If you need a hotspot for some emergency repair hit me up, but if you want to Netflix in the hotel for hours on end look elsewhere =P Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 3:19 PM, Nate Burke n...@blastcomm.com wrote: Just FYI, when you go to Eventbrite to register, it still lists the Holiday Inn there, but the link back to the Afmug page is updated. I just changed my Reservation over to the Ramada. I talked to the front desk, (so take this info with that in mind) He said that they have 3 separate networks, one for each building, and there are multiple AP's within each building. He did not know the size of their internet pipe. Nate On 1/14/2015 3:02 PM, Traci wrote: The Ramada Inn, their information is listed on the AFMUG website. On 1/14/2015 2:00 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Traci, What hotel is AFMUG using? I'd like to use the hotel that everyone else is staying at and help promote the event. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 3:57 PM, Traci tr...@wbmfg.com wrote: They are telling us that significant upgrades have been done in the last couple of years. Not sure if its enough to handle this group ;-) . With the Shilo being sold to Holiday Inn, I'm ready not sure what to expect this year from them either. I know registration has been a problem for many who have tried to reserve. On 1/14/2015 10:52 AM, Nate Burke wrote: Anybody talked to the Ramada to get a feel for their Wifi setup? I think the Shilo had multipe AP's per floor, and wasn't it fed with beehive fiber? Will the Ramada be able to support us, or will it crash and burn?
Re: [AFMUG] Licensed backhaul pricing - still ridiculous
My AF5 doesn't do 40 miles and gigabit? I demand Ubiquiti refund my money and pay for my tower climbers' time or allow me to increase the power to 1kw. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 2:54 PM, Caleb Knauer cknauer.li...@gmail.com wrote: Of course not by AF24, tiny beamwidth and low power. It's brother however? ;-) On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 2:46 PM, Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com wrote: If only you could read some of Josh's emails to us and you would see that he isn't always showing us the love ;) He will dish it when it is due...I have seen it publicly as well ;) Healthy discussion on backhauls and backhaul pricing...I will say that since the AF24 launch, I have not seen an email/post related to AF24 causing issues due to being installed by ignorant operators... On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 12:37 PM, TJ Trout t...@voltbb.com wrote: Seth be careful stepping on the toes of ubiquiti's No#1 fanboi :) On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Seth Mattinen se...@rollernet.us wrote: On 1/15/15 11:02, Josh Reynolds wrote: I don't understand how an 18GHz path has anything to do with Ubiquiti here, since the closest product they make to that band is on 24GHz. Ifyour problem is with ignorant operators, or just plain stupid operators, say so. If your problem is with Ubiquiti, say so. If your problem is with people failing to do the proper path analysis studies and frequency coordination (byyour PCN comment), say so. In any of these cases, it sounds like you are angry about something that has nothing to do with Ubiquiti or even an operator, but more or less whoever was *supposed* to be in chargeof the link design and common courtesy. I agreed with the post I responded to and the points contained therein, with my real life experience extrapolated to it a short response. I not only agree that licensed bands get used up faster, but that it would exacerbate existing instances of interference due to a higher percentage of ignorant operators jumping on a lower entry point or companies like UBNT making it easier for ignorant operators to enter the space and do bad things (i.e. past issues with compliance test mode and TDWR). ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] holy crap...
I think Mike is referring to being on the nice flat platform on the top of grain elevators. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 6:07 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: Well at 20 feet, you're right. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com *To: *af af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, January 15, 2015 5:06:55 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] holy crap... It's not much of a tower if you can't keep your lanyard above your head at 20 feet... On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 4:57 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: Not always (or actually, usually for me) possible. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, January 15, 2015 4:55:26 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] holy crap... Sounds to me like you're not keeping your lanyard above your head. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 5:53 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Your body stretches as well! *From:* Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com *Sent:* Thursday, January 15, 2015 3:42 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] holy crap... Think about where your hooks are compared to your harness and the slack in them, the break distance, stretch distance, final stop point, then when your feet are. This is a critical point not covered in a lot of initial instruction. josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com On 01/15/2015 01:12 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: What the hell kind of fall arrest system are you using?! You should drop no more than 6 feet!!! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 5:07 PM, Josh Reynolds mailto:j...@spitwspots.com j...@spitwspots.com wrote: Nothing, neither will a harness at a little under 20ft. You'll hit the ground before your descent is slowed by your fall arrest system. josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com On 01/15/2015 12:34 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: But if you slip at 20 feet what good will a parachute do? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 4:33 PM, Jay Weekley mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net par...@cyberbroadband.net mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote: I didn't see a climbing harness. Granted, they climbed in the tower and had parachutes. Matt Hardy wrote: Whoa... On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 7:56 PM, Josh Reynolds josh@spitwspots.commailto:j...@spitwspots.com j...@spitwspots.com mailto:j...@spitwspots.com j...@spitwspots.com wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3q3ZC5fcnY A little too close to those guy wires for my blood. -- josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots ::www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.com
Re: [AFMUG] holy crap...
Sounds to me like you're not keeping your lanyard above your head. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 5:53 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Your body stretches as well! *From:* Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com *Sent:* Thursday, January 15, 2015 3:42 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] holy crap... Think about where your hooks are compared to your harness and the slack in them, the break distance, stretch distance, final stop point, then when your feet are. This is a critical point not covered in a lot of initial instruction. josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com On 01/15/2015 01:12 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: What the hell kind of fall arrest system are you using?! You should drop no more than 6 feet!!! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 5:07 PM, Josh Reynolds mailto:j...@spitwspots.com j...@spitwspots.com wrote: Nothing, neither will a harness at a little under 20ft. You'll hit the ground before your descent is slowed by your fall arrest system. josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com On 01/15/2015 12:34 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: But if you slip at 20 feet what good will a parachute do? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 4:33 PM, Jay Weekley mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net par...@cyberbroadband.net mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote: I didn't see a climbing harness. Granted, they climbed in the tower and had parachutes. Matt Hardy wrote: Whoa... On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 7:56 PM, Josh Reynolds josh@spitwspots.commailto:j...@spitwspots.com j...@spitwspots.com mailto:j...@spitwspots.com j...@spitwspots.com wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3q3ZC5fcnY A little too close to those guy wires for my blood. -- josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots ::www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.com
Re: [AFMUG] holy crap...
LOL!!! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 6:19 PM, Paul McCall pa...@pdmnet.net wrote: Found it! *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Paul McCall *Sent:* Thursday, January 15, 2015 6:18 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] holy crap... Who has the picture of the raccoon on the tower? *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck Hogg *Sent:* Thursday, January 15, 2015 3:53 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] holy crap... Snakes on a tower? http://i.imgur.com/ap0VRTd.jpg Regards, Chuck On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 11:40 AM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: No... they'd probably take a bomb along for good measure and start wrecking all our towers. On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 10:36 AM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote: Maybe we need a fake ISIS tweet telling all jihadists to do this. *From:* Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *Sent:* Thursday, January 15, 2015 10:29 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] holy crap... Darwinism. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 15, 2015 11:28 AM, Brian Sullivan installe...@foxvalley.net wrote: Scary thing is, there are lightly secured tower sites all over America. Some 15 year old will eventually try this. On 1/15/2015 10:25 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote: Heh. Video just hit the front page of CNN. On January 15, 2015 7:17:16 AM AKST, Mathew Howard mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: I think it's pretty unlikely that permission wasn't given, since it's on GoPro's youtube channel... but it was still a bad idea. I would bet that the guy that got killed watched this video before he went out and tried it. On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 9:49 AM, Jon Bruce jbruce-af...@ptpbroadband.com wrote: Why does everyone assume permission was not given? On 1/15/2015 10:34 AM, Paul McCall wrote: Idiots…. And, yeah, also pretty irresponsible of GoPro to have it on their Youtube channel. *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds *Sent:* Wednesday, January 14, 2015 7:57 PM *To:* WISPA General List; af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] holy crap... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3q3ZC5fcnY A little too close to those guy wires for my blood. -- josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
Re: [AFMUG] holy crap...
What the hell kind of fall arrest system are you using?! You should drop no more than 6 feet!!! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 5:07 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: Nothing, neither will a harness at a little under 20ft. You'll hit the ground before your descent is slowed by your fall arrest system. josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com On 01/15/2015 12:34 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: But if you slip at 20 feet what good will a parachute do? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 4:33 PM, Jay Weekley par...@cyberbroadband.net par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote: I didn't see a climbing harness. Granted, they climbed in the tower and had parachutes. Matt Hardy wrote: Whoa... On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 7:56 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.commailto:j...@spitwspots.com j...@spitwspots.com wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3q3ZC5fcnY A little too close to those guy wires for my blood. -- josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots ::www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.com
Re: [AFMUG] holy crap...
20 feet from anchor point is not the same as falling 20 feet. That's suggests you're falling 8 feet. It just looks like we're talking about two different things. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 6:22 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: *sigh* Here, from OSHA/NATE training classes. josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com On 01/15/2015 01:55 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Sounds to me like you're not keeping your lanyard above your head. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 5:53 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Your body stretches as well! *From:* Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com j...@spitwspots.com *Sent:* Thursday, January 15, 2015 3:42 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] holy crap... Think about where your hooks are compared to your harness and the slack in them, the break distance, stretch distance, final stop point, then when your feet are. This is a critical point not covered in a lot of initial instruction. josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com On 01/15/2015 01:12 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: What the hell kind of fall arrest system are you using?! You should drop no more than 6 feet!!! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 5:07 PM, Josh Reynolds mailto:j...@spitwspots.com j...@spitwspots.com j...@spitwspots.com j...@spitwspots.com wrote: Nothing, neither will a harness at a little under 20ft. You'll hit the ground before your descent is slowed by your fall arrest system. josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com On 01/15/2015 12:34 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: But if you slip at 20 feet what good will a parachute do? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 4:33 PM, Jay Weekley mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net par...@cyberbroadband.net par...@cyberbroadband.net par...@cyberbroadband.net mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net par...@cyberbroadband.net par...@cyberbroadband.net par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote: I didn't see a climbing harness. Granted, they climbed in the tower and had parachutes. Matt Hardy wrote: Whoa... On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 7:56 PM, Josh Reynolds josh@spitwspots.commailto:j...@spitwspots.com j...@spitwspots.com j...@spitwspots.com mailto:j...@spitwspots.com j...@spitwspots.com j...@spitwspots.com j...@spitwspots.com wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3q3ZC5fcnY A little too close to those guy wires for my blood. -- josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots ::www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.com
Re: [AFMUG] Keystone Cover
Make an rj45 male plug? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 16, 2015 12:07 PM, Matt matt.mailingli...@gmail.com wrote: Does a cover exist to snap over a keystone jack if you just leave it hanging on end of cable?
Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ?
It's just a factor. What other options can do 80 MHz? Can they do 1024 QAM? I'd bet 60 MHz * 1024qam is pretty close to 80 MHz * 256qam. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 2:05 PM, TJ Trout t...@voltbb.com wrote: 11ghz integra doesn't exist, and when it does in april it's just 60mhz! Should I even be considering a 60mhz radio? Seems like 80 is the way to go? On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 11:02 AM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: 11 ghz integra Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr From: TJ Trout t...@voltbb.com Reply-To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Date: Friday, January 16, 2015 at 2:57 PM To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ? I guess what I'm interested in is what is the cheapest 6 or 11ghz 80mhz radio in terms of bits/hz or should I just use the lumina in 2+0? On Jan 16, 2015 10:54 AM, TJ Trout t...@voltbb.com wrote: So I have a lumina on 11ghz 56mhz that I need to upgrade, what is the most economical option for more capacity ? Saf doesn't really have much besides 2+0 right now (maybe that's my best option?) So I was thinking about trying another brand something with maybe 80mhz channels ? What are my options that won't cost an arm and a leg ?
Re: [AFMUG] System Release 13.3 available
That's officially retarded. Why the hell would you ship firmware that lost a crucial feature. Why not just ship it out with only 90% of the features and start licensing for the remaining 10%? Might as well go full retard. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 2:15 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com wrote: Yeah, I'm gonna need you to come in on Saturday and fix that. So can we at least send SMs out with 13.2/13.2.1, tech can tone align, then we do auto-update? Kinda defeats the purpose of all the new features though. On 1/16/2015 1:03 PM, Mark Radabaugh wrote: They broke it and sent out a release version. Not cool. Mark On Jan 16, 2015, at 1:58 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com wrote: I'm lost.. or slow. They took the alignment tone out or what? On 1/16/2015 12:26 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: That’s the way I read the release notes as well. Could someone from Cambium please clarify? I agree, it true, that’s a show stopper. Installers will kill me if we have to go back to reading numbers over the phone. *From:* Mark Radabaugh m...@amplex.net *Sent:* Friday, January 16, 2015 12:03 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] System Release 13.3 available It's still says 'no alignment tone' on the release notes. That's a show stopper for me. Dear Cambium - that's not a minor bug and should not be in a release. My apologies if I read the release note wrong. Mark On Jan 16, 2015, at 12:57 PM, Ryan Ray ryan...@gmail.com wrote: After having my .5 frequencies lost on sm's during the 13.2 upgrade I'm holding off Sent while mobile On Jan 15, 2015, at 7:11 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com wrote: Anyone brave enough yet? I've been too busy to play with firmware lately. On 1/15/2015 12:13 PM, Matt Mangriotis wrote: We have released 13.3 officially today. I know many of you have been participating in the beta for this, and want to thank you for all the feedback which has helped make it better… https://support.cambiumnetworks.com/files/pmp450/ We also have a thread dedicated to discussion of this release: http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/PMP-450/System-Release-13-3-Now-Avaialble/m-p/37969#U37969 Download and enjoy all the new functionality this brings to the platform! Thanks again, Matt
Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ?
How often do you find 60 MHz channels available? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 2:44 PM, Hardy, Tim tha...@comsearch.com wrote: Maximum bandwidth at 6 GHz is 60 MHz… *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof *Sent:* Friday, January 16, 2015 2:18 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ? I would first talk to your frequency coordinator about what FCC channel widths can be licensed in what bands. I’m not sure 40 MHz channels exist in 6 GHz, and I believe you’ll find an 80 MHz channel width means you need to license 2 adjacent channels. There is no benefit to having a radio that does 80 MHz channels if that’s not what you license, other than maybe having consistent equipment across your network to simplify sparing. *From:* TJ Trout t...@voltbb.com *Sent:* Friday, January 16, 2015 1:05 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ? 11ghz integra doesn't exist, and when it does in april it's just 60mhz! Should I even be considering a 60mhz radio? Seems like 80 is the way to go? On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 11:02 AM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: 11 ghz integra Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr *From: *TJ Trout t...@voltbb.com *Reply-To: *af@afmug.com af@afmug.com *Date: *Friday, January 16, 2015 at 2:57 PM *To: *af@afmug.com af@afmug.com *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ? I guess what I'm interested in is what is the cheapest 6 or 11ghz 80mhz radio in terms of bits/hz or should I just use the lumina in 2+0? On Jan 16, 2015 10:54 AM, TJ Trout t...@voltbb.com wrote: So I have a lumina on 11ghz 56mhz that I need to upgrade, what is the most economical option for more capacity ? Saf doesn't really have much besides 2+0 right now (maybe that's my best option?) So I was thinking about trying another brand something with maybe 80mhz channels ? What are my options that won't cost an arm and a leg ?
Re: [AFMUG] System Release 13.3 available
Well you definitely don't want to give them a firmware update that removes the feature. But seriously I would permit whatever the tech finds to be easier to align. If they're better with numbers, let them. I personally can't stand the alignment tone since I can't really hear what's better or worse. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 2:43 PM, Jon Bruce jbruce-af...@ptpbroadband.com wrote: How do I convince my installers to use the tone and stop calling the NOC for numbers over the phone? On 1/16/2015 1:26 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: That’s the way I read the release notes as well. Could someone from Cambium please clarify? I agree, it true, that’s a show stopper. Installers will kill me if we have to go back to reading numbers over the phone. *From:* Mark Radabaugh m...@amplex.net *Sent:* Friday, January 16, 2015 12:03 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] System Release 13.3 available It's still says 'no alignment tone' on the release notes. That's a show stopper for me. Dear Cambium - that's not a minor bug and should not be in a release. My apologies if I read the release note wrong. Mark On Jan 16, 2015, at 12:57 PM, Ryan Ray ryan...@gmail.com wrote: After having my .5 frequencies lost on sm's during the 13.2 upgrade I'm holding off Sent while mobile On Jan 15, 2015, at 7:11 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com wrote: Anyone brave enough yet? I've been too busy to play with firmware lately. On 1/15/2015 12:13 PM, Matt Mangriotis wrote: We have released 13.3 officially today. I know many of you have been participating in the beta for this, and want to thank you for all the feedback which has helped make it better… https://support.cambiumnetworks.com/files/pmp450/ We also have a thread dedicated to discussion of this release: http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/PMP-450/System-Release-13-3-Now-Avaialble/m-p/37969#U37969 Download and enjoy all the new functionality this brings to the platform! Thanks again, Matt
Re: [AFMUG] System Release 13.3 available
It's like being color blind. I just don't get it when I hear it. I hear changes, but changes mean nothing to me. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 2:59 PM, Mark Radabaugh m...@amplex.net wrote: Make them pass a tone deafness test before you hire them? Does such a thing even exist? Apparently this must be a bit like being color blind. The tone is really easy for me to use, far easier than looking at the numbers. Yet I have been at sites with certain installers that claim they can't hear any difference as they move the antenna around. I'm just standing there scratching my head as they go right past the sweet spot. Now if we are talking about 2.4 Canopy FSK, the tones are pretty useless. 3.65 and 5Ghz Mark On Jan 16, 2015, at 2:43 PM, Jon Bruce jbruce-af...@ptpbroadband.com wrote: How do I convince my installers to use the tone and stop calling the NOC for numbers over the phone? On 1/16/2015 1:26 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: That’s the way I read the release notes as well. Could someone from Cambium please clarify? I agree, it true, that’s a show stopper. Installers will kill me if we have to go back to reading numbers over the phone. *From:* Mark Radabaugh m...@amplex.net *Sent:* Friday, January 16, 2015 12:03 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] System Release 13.3 available It's still says 'no alignment tone' on the release notes. That's a show stopper for me. Dear Cambium - that's not a minor bug and should not be in a release. My apologies if I read the release note wrong. Mark On Jan 16, 2015, at 12:57 PM, Ryan Ray ryan...@gmail.com wrote: After having my .5 frequencies lost on sm's during the 13.2 upgrade I'm holding off Sent while mobile On Jan 15, 2015, at 7:11 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com wrote: Anyone brave enough yet? I've been too busy to play with firmware lately. On 1/15/2015 12:13 PM, Matt Mangriotis wrote: We have released 13.3 officially today. I know many of you have been participating in the beta for this, and want to thank you for all the feedback which has helped make it better… https://support.cambiumnetworks.com/files/pmp450/ We also have a thread dedicated to discussion of this release: http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/PMP-450/System-Release-13-3-Now-Avaialble/m-p/37969#U37969 Download and enjoy all the new functionality this brings to the platform! Thanks again, Matt
Re: [AFMUG] Test
Test worked Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 3:00 PM, SmarterBroadband li...@smarterbroadband.com wrote: Testing
Re: [AFMUG] AF2015 List setup
Are you putting people in it or do we need to subscribe manually? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 16, 2015 3:36 PM, Paul McCall pa...@pdmnet.net wrote: Guys, We are going to be setting up a separate list for the AFMUG conference. It will be called AF2015 and be active to sign up for a few days before the event. You will need to subscribe to AF2015, but do NOT unsubscribe from it or our API will unsubscribe you from the main AFMUG list as well. (no good work around for that as everything ties through the API to work with Amazon) So… You can join but you can never leave, haha! Seriously, after the event when people stop posting, we will just remove the list. There will be an archive for the AF2015 group that can be accessed until such time as Chuck says to stop it (indefinitely is acceptable) SPECIFIC DETAILS FOR SIGNUP WILL BE ANNOUNCED on Monday, Feb 2nd. If have any immediate questions, please email probablynotgonnagetarespo...@bepatientplease.com Paul J Paul McCall, Pres. PDMNet / Florida Broadband 658 Old Dixie Highway Vero Beach, FL 32962 772-564-6800 office 772-473-0352 cell www.pdmnet.com pa...@pdmnet.net
Re: [AFMUG] AF2015 List setup
OK, please post to the list when/how if you wouldn't mind =) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 4:15 PM, Paul McCall pa...@pdmnet.net wrote: It will be a manual subscription…. *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman *Sent:* Friday, January 16, 2015 3:51 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AF2015 List setup Are you putting people in it or do we need to subscribe manually? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 16, 2015 3:36 PM, Paul McCall pa...@pdmnet.net wrote: Guys, We are going to be setting up a separate list for the AFMUG conference. It will be called AF2015 and be active to sign up for a few days before the event. You will need to subscribe to AF2015, but do NOT unsubscribe from it or our API will unsubscribe you from the main AFMUG list as well. (no good work around for that as everything ties through the API to work with Amazon) So… You can join but you can never leave, haha! Seriously, after the event when people stop posting, we will just remove the list. There will be an archive for the AF2015 group that can be accessed until such time as Chuck says to stop it (indefinitely is acceptable) SPECIFIC DETAILS FOR SIGNUP WILL BE ANNOUNCED on Monday, Feb 2nd. If have any immediate questions, please email probablynotgonnagetarespo...@bepatientplease.com Paul J Paul McCall, Pres. PDMNet / Florida Broadband 658 Old Dixie Highway Vero Beach, FL 32962 772-564-6800 office 772-473-0352 cell www.pdmnet.com pa...@pdmnet.net
Re: [AFMUG] AF2015 List setup
Usually very tasty! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 16, 2015 4:46 PM, James Howard ja...@litewire.net wrote: Depends on how they’re cooked. They can be really sticky sometimes or hard if they’re not cooked enough…. Aside from that, I don’t know what’s wrong with noodles. *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman *Sent:* Friday, January 16, 2015 3:42 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AF2015 List setup What's wrong with noodles?! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 16, 2015 4:33 PM, Paul McCall pa...@pdmnet.net wrote: +1 LOL *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *James Howard *Sent:* Friday, January 16, 2015 4:32 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AF2015 List setup Looks like Josh is asking for a wet noodle lashing for not actually reading Paul’s email……. *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman *Sent:* Friday, January 16, 2015 3:21 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AF2015 List setup OK, please post to the list when/how if you wouldn't mind =) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 4:15 PM, Paul McCall pa...@pdmnet.net wrote: It will be a manual subscription…. *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman *Sent:* Friday, January 16, 2015 3:51 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AF2015 List setup Are you putting people in it or do we need to subscribe manually? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 16, 2015 3:36 PM, Paul McCall pa...@pdmnet.net wrote: Guys, We are going to be setting up a separate list for the AFMUG conference. It will be called AF2015 and be active to sign up for a few days before the event. You will need to subscribe to AF2015, but do NOT unsubscribe from it or our API will unsubscribe you from the main AFMUG list as well. (no good work around for that as everything ties through the API to work with Amazon) So… You can join but you can never leave, haha! Seriously, after the event when people stop posting, we will just remove the list. There will be an archive for the AF2015 group that can be accessed until such time as Chuck says to stop it (indefinitely is acceptable) SPECIFIC DETAILS FOR SIGNUP WILL BE ANNOUNCED on Monday, Feb 2nd. If have any immediate questions, please email probablynotgonnagetarespo...@bepatientplease.com Paul J Paul McCall, Pres. PDMNet / Florida Broadband 658 Old Dixie Highway Vero Beach, FL 32962 772-564-6800 office 772-473-0352 cell www.pdmnet.com pa...@pdmnet.net -- *Total Control Panel* Login https://asp.reflexion.net/login?domain=litewire.net To: ja...@litewire.net https://asp.reflexion.net/address-properties?aID=242260993domain=litewire.net From: 014af49f40cd-9177f264-de11-4eac-a35f-193165a10583-000...@amazonses.com https://asp.reflexion.net/address-properties?aID=2988270540domain=litewire.net Remove https://asp.reflexion.net/FooterAction?ver=2un-wl-sender-domain=1rID=242260993aID=2988270540domain=litewire.net amazonses.com from my allow list *You received this message because the domain amazonses.com http://amazonses.com is on your allow list.* -- *Total Control Panel* Login https://asp.reflexion.net/login?domain=litewire.net To: ja...@litewire.net https://asp.reflexion.net/address-properties?aID=242260993domain=litewire.net From: 014af4b2221b-36ac0b6f-f931-4158-b727-260258319eaa-000...@amazonses.com https://asp.reflexion.net/address-properties?aID=2988308138domain=litewire.net Remove https://asp.reflexion.net/FooterAction?ver=2un-wl-sender-domain=1rID=242260993aID=2988308138domain=litewire.net amazonses.com from my allow list *You received this message because the domain amazonses.com http://amazonses.com is on your allow list.*
Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ?
Are you buying everything new? Ask SAF what bands work with your proposed link. Consider dish size. Now with possible bands, see what are available from a frequency coordinator. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 16, 2015 4:48 PM, TJ Trout t...@voltbb.com wrote: What is my least expensive option for getting more bandwidth in 6ghz or 11ghz ? Right now I have 366mbps (56mhz 256qam) would like double or better? On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 1:03 PM, Jon Langeler jon-ispli...@michwave.net wrote: compression yields a lot at 64byte packet, but yields much less at 256byte and larger...it's a curve. Also if your upgrading a long 5GHz link with 6Ghz, you'll probably be slightly better off even if the calcs say 'low uptime'. 11GHz will 'swing' during rains more than 6GHz obviously so the higher gain from the same size dishes helps there. Licensing a wide single polarity is always cheapest... -Jon Sent from my iPhone On Jan 16, 2015, at 3:13 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: That sounds backwards. Why would smaller packets net you greater throughput? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 3:10 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: It's really 60. Ours does 1.4Gbps, 700Mbps full duplex (if every packet was a VoIP packet)...500Mbps FDX is a more realistic real-world TCP throughput that you can expect. On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 1:07 PM, Hardy, Tim tha...@comsearch.com wrote: It’s really 60! *60 MHz * *CH* *N(* *G(* 1 5960.0250 6212.0650 2 6019.3250 6271.3650 3 6078.6250 6330.6650 4 6137.9250 6389.9650 As far as XPIC on 30 MHz vs. 60 MHz it all depends on the environment. If x-pol is needed to clear a channel, it isn’t going to be available on the orthogonal polarization. *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof *Sent:* Friday, January 16, 2015 2:59 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ? In 6 GHz, is 60 really 60, or is it 30+30 contiguous? I’m thinking it might be easier to do XPIC on the same 30 MHz channel than to find 60 MHz of available spectrum, but I haven’t done anything in 6 GHz, mainly because of antenna size. Yes the FCC did relax the antenna rules to allow down to a 3 ft dish, but realistically that won’t give you enough gain unless it’s a short link, especially given that 6 GHz is subject to multipath fades. So bottom line I haven’t kept up with what you can do in 6 GHz, so I could easily be wrong or behind the times. *From:* Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net *Sent:* Friday, January 16, 2015 1:24 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ? 30 MHz in the 7 GHz band, 30 MHz in some 6 GHz, 60 MHz in the rest of 6 GHz... IIRC. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Friday, January 16, 2015 1:18:19 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ? I would first talk to your frequency coordinator about what FCC channel widths can be licensed in what bands. I’m not sure 40 MHz channels exist in 6 GHz, and I believe you’ll find an 80 MHz channel width means you need to license 2 adjacent channels. There is no benefit to having a radio that does 80 MHz channels if that’s not what you license, other than maybe having consistent equipment across your network to simplify sparing. *From:* TJ Trout t...@voltbb.com *Sent:* Friday, January 16, 2015 1:05 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ? 11ghz integra doesn't exist, and when it does in april it's just 60mhz! Should I even be considering a 60mhz radio? Seems like 80 is the way to go? On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 11:02 AM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: 11 ghz integra Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr *From: *TJ Trout t...@voltbb.com *Reply-To: *af@afmug.com af@afmug.com *Date: *Friday, January 16, 2015 at 2:57 PM *To: *af@afmug.com af@afmug.com *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ? I guess what I'm interested in is what is the cheapest 6 or 11ghz 80mhz radio in terms of bits/hz or should I just use the lumina in 2+0? On Jan 16, 2015 10:54 AM, TJ Trout t...@voltbb.com wrote: So I have a lumina on 11ghz 56mhz that I need to upgrade, what is the most economical option for more capacity ? Saf doesn't really have much besides 2+0 right now (maybe that's my best option?) So I was thinking about trying another brand something with maybe 80mhz channels ? What are my options that won't cost an arm
Re: [AFMUG] OT - RadioSprint? SprintShack?
I sure hope they keep some of the minimal electronics they have to begin
with in my store...
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Jan 16, 2015 7:27 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote:
It also sounds like the deal would just be to lease some of the the
store locations to be closed. I originally heard the story on the radio,
and they made it sound like Sprint was actually buying Electrode Hut
Radio Shack.
I am shocked, shocked to hear that Radio Shack is in bankruptcy. How
could they fail with commercials featuring Shaq?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACJo-4oQqpY
*From:* Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com
*Sent:* Friday, January 16, 2015 6:17 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - RadioSprint? SprintShack?
We closed our store a couple of years ago. It was never profitable.
*From:* Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com
*Sent:* Thursday, January 15, 2015 6:44 PM
*To:* Animal Farm af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - RadioSprint? SprintShack?
Doesn't Mr. Chuck have a few in his portfolio?
Jaime Solorza
On Jan 15, 2015 5:18 PM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote:
Next Shack
On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 3:48 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2015-01-15/radioshack-said-in-
talks-to-sell-stores-to-sprint-in-bankruptcy.html
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Re: [AFMUG] List test
Worked Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 16, 2015 7:59 PM, Andreas Wiatowski andr...@silowireless.com wrote: Testing the list Cheers, Andreas Wiatowski, CEO Silo Wireless Inc. 1-866-727-4138 x-600 Web: www.silowireless.com Facebook: www.facebook.com/silowireless Twitter: @silowireless
Re: [AFMUG] which case works with the rb850?
Isn't there a case for it? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 17, 2015 1:00 PM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net wrote: Rory Conaway Triad Wireless 4226 S. 37th Street Phoenix, Az. 85040 602-426-0542 r...@triadwireless.net www.triadwireless.net
