RE: [agi] A theorem of change and persistence????
Hi Ben, If you model a system in approximate detail then potentially you can avoid big surprises and have only small surprises. In chaotic systems, my guess is that compact models would capture many possibilities that would otherwise be surprises - especially in the near term. But I think it's unlikely that these models would capture all the big potential surprises leaving only small surprises to happen. I would imagine that compact models would fail to capture at least some lower-probability very big surprises. If a super-AI were reshaping the universe, it could reshape the universe in such a way that from that point on, the dynamics of the universe would be reasonably well predictable via compact approximative models. In fact this would probably be a clever thing to do, assuming it could be done without sacrificing too much of the creative potential of the universe... My guess is that, to make the universe a moderately predictable place, creativity would have to be kept at a very low level - with only creativity space for one super-AGI. Trying to knock the unpredictability out of the universe could be engaging for a super-AGI (that was so inclined) for a while (given the resistance it would encounter). But I reckon the super-AGI might find a moderately predictable universe fairly unstimulating in the long run. Cheers, Philip --- To unsubscribe, change your address, or temporarily deactivate your subscription, please go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [agi] A theorem of change and persistence????
If a super-AI were reshaping the universe, it could reshape the universe in such a way that from that point on, the dynamics of the universe would be reasonably well predictable via compact approximative models. In fact this would probably be a clever thing to do, assuming it could be done without sacrificing too much of the creative potential of the universe... My guess is that, to make the universe a moderately predictable place, creativity would have to be kept at a very low level - with only creativity space for one super-AGI. Trying to knock the unpredictability out of the universe could be engaging for a super-AGI (that was so inclined) for a while (given the resistance it would encounter). But I reckon the super-AGI might find a moderately predictable universe fairly unstimulating in the long run. Cheers, Philip Well, you might be right. But this comes down to you and me speculating about the aesthetic preferences of a massively superhuman being, and I really doubt the accuracy of either of our speculations in this regard ;-) -- Ben --- To unsubscribe, change your address, or temporarily deactivate your subscription, please go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [agi] A theorem of change and persistence????
On Wed, Jan 05, 2005 at 02:52:50AM +1100, Philip Sutton wrote: My guess is that, to make the universe a moderately predictable place, creativity would have to be kept at a very low level - with only creativity space for one super-AGI. Trying to knock the unpredictability out of the universe could be engaging for a super-AGI (that was so inclined) for a while (given the resistance it would encounter). But I reckon the super-AGI might find a moderately predictable universe fairly unstimulating in the long run. Co-evolution of AGI populations guarantees unpredictability, and an arms race in capabilities. -- Eugen* Leitl a href=http://leitl.org;leitl/a __ ICBM: 48.07078, 11.61144http://www.leitl.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE http://moleculardevices.org http://nanomachines.net --- To unsubscribe, change your address, or temporarily deactivate your subscription, please go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpJRbVlmIvS6.pgp Description: PGP signature
