Mentifex,
Thanks for the entertaining post!
However, I personally consider it a bit of an overreaction ;-)
Dubya is not my favorite US President; however, in all probability, who is
or isn't the leader of one particular country in 2004 is unlikely to have a
large effect on the future of mind in the universe.
Obviously, humanity is on a path of rapidly accelerating technological
advancement; and, mostly likely, we're either going to kill ourselves or
transcend ourselves by our technology, sometime during the next century.
AGI technology itself could be used to help annihilate the human race or to
help transcend it. One thing I agree with Eliezer Yudkowsky on is: Worrying
about how to increase the odds of AGI, nanotech and biotech saving rather
than annihilating the human race, is much more worthwhile than worrying
about who is President of the US.
-- Ben G
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Subject: [agi] Re: AI boxing
On Fri, 17 Sep 2004, Ben Goertzel wrote:
[...]
In short, it really makes no sense to create an AI, allow it to
indirectly affect human affairs, and then make an absolute decision
to keep it in a box.
And it also makes no sense to create an AI and not allow it
to affect human affairs at all, under any circumstances.
This is a waste of resources.
So creating an AI-BOX may be a useful interim strategy and
conceivably a useful long-term strategy, but it's not something
we should expect to count on absolutely.
Thus I suggest that we spend our time discussing something else ;-)
-- Ben G
Okay, let's change topics; gee, Ben G, let's change to a better forum ;-)
Let's discuss the Bush Election Suicide Protest Movement and the
potentiality of having to go underground to work on creating AI or
the idea of committing suicide if the Cocainer-in-Chief is re-elected.
In a worst-case scenario, on 2 November 2004 the American people
have elected the Cocainer-in-Chief to be their president for
Four More Wars. A military draft has been rushed back into place
for young American males, who must now take up the cause of
murdering Iraqi citizens in their own Iraqi homeland. Planeloads
of coffins have brought thousands of dead American boys home to
their parents, who voted for the death of their own sons.
Mothers in America and Iraq spoon-feed their wounded sons
who have lost multiple severed limbs and will never again have
the body parts necessary for the simple act of raising food to
their lips. America is awash with crazy veterans who commit
random acts of unkind violence for decades on end. America the
beautiful has become America the living nightmare. Mentifex,
the user `mindmaker` q.v. here on Sourceforge, has committed suicide
or has gone underground to work secretly on artificial intelligence
for `los pobres de la tierra` and not for the corporate America
that celebrates the ill-gotten gains of plundered Iraqi oil.
If Mentifex is dead, your donation here is no longer necessary.
If there is still time, keep your money and donate your vote
for decent candidates who do not bring shame upon all Americans
by uttering foul-mouthed vulgarities as Cheney did on the
hallowed floor of the United States Senate. Deep down, America
was ashamed of Bush and Cheney, but unwilling to admit it.
Mentifex was so ashamed of his own country that he could
no longer bear to live in it. Your vote for Bush killed Mentifex.
If you did not vote for Bush but too many others did, consider
A) suicide; B) escape to another country; C) joining the
AI underground; or D) a life of quiet desperation.
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