Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3867 Assigned to Jason [Ribbon]
On 7/21/20 7:19 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: > I assign the following judgment in CFJ 3867: I award myself a blue ribbon for this judgement. -- Jason Cobb
BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3867 Assigned to Jason
On 7/16/20 5:27 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-official wrote:
> The below CFJ is 3867. I assign it to Jason.
>
> status: https://faculty.washington.edu/kerim/nomic/cases/#3867
>
> === CFJ 3867 ===
>
> In the above message, I broke a pledge.
>
> ==
I assign the following judgment in CFJ 3867:
{
It is not disputed that ATMunn made the pledge and sent a message
containing "tacos" to the discussion forum.
First, we must determine whether this action violated the text of the
pledge. To "say" something is not defined in the rules, so it takes on
its natural language meaning. I don't believe that many English speakers
would bat an eye at it being said that someone "said" something in an
email e sent.
If Alice sent Bob an email containing "I will pay you 10 dollars if you
water my plants", and Bob went on to water Alice's plants and attempted
to collect the 10 dollars, most people would be confused if Alice said
"Oh, but I never /said/ I would pay you 10 dollars". Bob would
rightfully respond with "But it's right here in this email you sent
me!". If Alice then went on to say "But I never used my vocal cords to
vibrate air in such a way to create sound that is interpreted as words
that mean I would pay you 10 dollars.", then most people would
rightfully think Alice was crazy (or, perhaps, an Agoran). The important
part of the meaning of "say" is not the part where the words come out of
someone's lips, but the part where the words are communicated.
Since by a natural language reading ATMunn "said" the word "tacos" to
the discussion forum, and since eir pledge stated that e would not do
so, e violated that pledge. E raises the point that eir actions may not
violate the pledge because the violating message was sent to the
discussion forum. I find that this is not the case - e went out of eir
way to phrase the pledge with as broad a scope as possible (writing "in
any context"), and the fact that a message was sent to a discussion
forum does not mean that it was not a message.
Judged TRUE.
Falsifian, in eir gratuitous arguments, stated that Rule 2125 may
prevent ATMunn's actions from being a violation if sending a message to
a discussion forum is not a regulated action. I do not rule on that here
- this case merely asks me to decide whether the pledge was broken, not
whether the action constituted a violation of the rules. As such, there
is no Rule 2125 issue, and the pledge was broken based solely on its
content.
}
--
Jason Cobb
[cfj] Re: BUS: [Proposal] Contract-Specific Contracts
I cfj: If messages to-date from "greg" are primarily constructed by a bot, the below finger-pointings apply to the natural person most responsible for the messages being sent to Agoran fora. On 7/20/2020 6:54 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > I point the finger at Greg, for violating No Faking by claiming (via > signature) to be Trigon: > https://mailman.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-business/2020-July/044216.html > > I point the finger at Greg, for violating No Faking by claiming (via > signature) to be Publius Scribonius Scholasticus: > https://mailman.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-business/2020-July/044227.html > > There is a clear implication of identity when using a signature. This is > a direct lie in at least 1 of these situations (from immediate evidence, > likely both). Further, each instance shows a clear intent to mislead Agora > as to this person's identity. On Discord, after the first message above, > Trigon got asked if e was running a fake but forgot to change eir > signature. So this misleading announcement was pernicious enough to > result in direct accusations of criminal behavior on a (most likely?) > innocent person. > > -G. >
BUS: [Notary] The Notes (pledges & promises) - revision 2
On 7/21/2020 5:08 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: On 7/21/20 5:05 PM, ATMunn via agora-official wrote: "Justice for hire" created by omd Bearer: the Library Text: Cashing conditions: the bearer has transferred or granted Jason 1 Justice card in the same message as which e cashes this promise. I transfer the bearer 15 coins. CoE: PSS cashed this promise (and it was created by me). https://mailman.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-business/2020-July/044143.html I accept the above CoE and publish the following revision: This is a continuation of the Notary's weekly report. Information about contracts can be found in a separate message. === PLEDGES If any pledge(s) has/have no name currently, I assign it/them the name(s) displayed in this report. The following 15 pledges exist: "You can make it happen, R. Lee!" created by Gaelan Time of creation: 11 Mar 04:16 2020 Time window: 1 year Time of expiry: 11 Mar 04:16 2021 Text: I pledge to transfer 100 coins to R. Lee by the end of this pledge’s time window if Peter Suber registers as a player. The time window for this pledge is one year. "G's encouragement" created by R. Lee Time of creation: 3 Jun 03:24 2020 Time window: 3 months Time of expiry: 3 Sep 03:24 2020 Text: I pledge to pay G. (or any other player) all my coins and victory points if e fills in all the gaps in the CFJ database in the years 2018 and 2019. Time window is 3 months. "No Fraud, Becca" created by R. Lee Time of creation: 3 Jun 03:34 2020 Time window: 3 months Time of expiry: 3 Sep 03:34 2020 Text: I also pledge not to transfer coins to other entities to avoid the above pledge for the same time window of 3 months. Violating this pledge shall be a class 8 crime. "Don't touch the statute" created by Jason Time of creation: 4 Jun 00:32 2020 Time window: 60 days Time of expiry: 3 Aug 00:32 2020 Text: I pledge not to change rule numbers in order to interfere with the functioning of a statute for the period of 60 days. "Offer for those interested in creating a bridge" created by P.S.S. Time of creation: 22 Jun 22:50 2020 Time window: 60 days Time of expiry: 21 Aug 22:50 2020 Text: I will create a contract compensating the creator and maintainer of such a bridge[1] with good uptime and usability after it has functioned for a month. The compensation shall be no less than that received by a competent, law-abiding officer or its reasonable equivalent in cards. [1] context: https://mailman.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-business/2020-June/043564.html "No power abuse" created by Jason Time of creation: 23 Jun 23:20 2020 Time window: 60 days Time of creation: 22 Aug 23:20 2020 Text: If I acquire the office of Prime Minister, I pledge to exercise no cabinet orders and to initiate an election within 7 days. "No emergency regulations" created by Jason Time of creation: 23 Jun 23:27 2020 Time window: 60 days Time of creation: 22 Aug 23:27 2020 Text: I pledge to issue no intents pertaining to emergency regulations if I become Prime Minister. "Honor in scammery" created by R. Lee Time of creation: 30 Jun 14:26 2020 Time window: 60 days Time of expiry: 29 Aug 14:26 2020 Text: I pledge to transfer those 60 VP to G, giving em a win and the speakership, within 24 hours after the indictments of me for Uncertain Certification are resolved (I’m doing this so I can wipe my future blots with the blot-b-gones without an economic reset, then I will give G. the points and e will win
BUS: Re: OFF: [Notary] The Notes (pledges & promises) - revision 1
On 7/21/20 5:05 PM, ATMunn via agora-official wrote: > > "Justice for hire" created by omd > Bearer: the Library > Text: > > Cashing conditions: the bearer has transferred or granted Jason 1 > Justice card in the same message as which e cashes this promise. > > I transfer the bearer 15 coins. > CoE: PSS cashed this promise (and it was created by me). https://mailman.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-business/2020-July/044143.html -- Jason Cobb
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Registration
at 6:48 PM, ais523 via agora-discussion wrote: Updated hypothesis: the messages are being sent by a bot, probably a neural network trained on Agoran public forum messages. I just noticed that the name “Greg P. Thomas II” has the initials “GPT II”, i.e. GPT-2, the notorious text generation neural network. For the record, TTPF: I am not behind this.
BUS: [Notary] The Notes: Tuesday Edition
I publish the following weekly report: ██ ██ ███ ███ ██ █ ███ ██ ████ ██ ██ ██ ██ ██████ ██ █████ █ ██ ██ ██ ██ ██████ ████ ██ ████ ██ ██████ ██ ████ ██ ███ ██ ███ █ █████ ██ -~= Notary's weekly report =~- ~~ Tuesday is better than Monday anyway. ~~ All times and dates in this report are given in Coordinated Universal Time (UTC). Date of last report: 13 Jul 2020 Date of this report: 21 Jul 2020 Abbreviations used in this report: --- P.S.S. | Publius Scribonius Scholasticus CB | Cuddlebeam con. | contract --- If any contract(s) have no name currently, I assign it/them the name(s) displayed in this report. === SHORT LIST OF CONTRACTS Title Parties "The Dragon Corporation" Aris, Jason, Falsifian, P.S.S. "GRBaSTttPF"[1] Gaelan, twg, Warrigal, Falsifian "TPP"[2] CB, R. Lee, P.S.S., G., Bögtil, Jason ... [3] "AAA"[4] Jason, P.S.S., R. Lee, nix "LoAFER"[5]Trigon, Jason, R. Lee, ATMunn, P.S.S. "Co Dependents" nix, R. Lee "Cuddlebeam's Locker" Cuddlebeam "Card Collective Contract, Agoran"Murphy, R. Lee "Contract No. 1: GIFT"Trigon, R. Lee "Contract No. 2: POEM"Trigon, R. Lee, ATMunn "Contract No. 3: CARD"R. Lee "Contract No. 5: DECK"Trigon, R. Lee, ATMunn "Contract No. 6: BOON"Trigon "SEAMSTRESS"[6] Trigon, nix, Jason "Dragon QuickExchange" Falsifian "Obstruction"omd "Obstruction 2: Electric Boogaloo"R. Lee "SNOCS"[7] omd, ATMunn, R. Lee "Dragon Political Outreach"Falsifian "Amusing Test Case" Aris "The Bank"ATMunn "The Platonic Parrot" nix, P.S.S., ATMunn, omd, ... [8] "I bet that was written by G." omd, ATMunn "The Contract Awards: The Contract" ATMunn "Ponzi Scheme" Jason, P.S.S., ATMunn, R. Lee, Trigon "The Agoran Underground Betting Ring" Gaelan [1] Gaelan's Really Bad At Sending Things To The Public Forum [2] The Plunder Partnership [3] also Falsifian, Aris [4] The Agoran Arbitration Association [5] League of Agorans Facilitating Effective Recordkeeping [6] Signature Enthusiast Allows Modification of Signature Through Rigorous Exchanging of Signature Suggestions [7] Simple, No-Opportunity-Cost Sets [8] also R. Lee, Cuddlebeam == FULL TEXT AND HISTORY OF CONTRACTS == The following 26 contracts exist: "The Dragon Corporation" (revision 4) Parties: Aris, Jason, Falsifian, P.S.S. -- ## Bylaw 1: Definition This contract is named "the Dragon Corporation". The purpose of the Dragon Corporation is to earn as much money as possible for its shareholders. All other provisions of this contract notwithstanding, this contract does not permit any entity to act on behalf of any other entity. Shares of Dragon stock (also known as "shares of DRGN", or, in this contract, "shares") are a currency whose purpose is to represent ownership of the Dragon Corporation. An entity which owns at least one share is known as a shareholder. If, at any time, the Dragon Corporation or the Lost and Found Department owns any shares, then those shares are destroyed. Any person CAN, by announcement, become a party to this contract or cease to be a party to this contract. A shareholder who is a party to this contract is known as a member. Wherever this contract states that an entity becomes a party to this contract or ceases to be
Re: Subject: BUS: [Proposal] Minion Plan
On 7/21/20 3:56 PM, Greg P. Thomas II via agora-business wrote: > I submit the following proposal. > > > > Title: Minion Plan > Author: Thomas > AI: 2 > Strategy: If the goal of this proposal is to make > the other player pay more than 1 > > > > > > > Amend Rule 2481 by replacing the text "each I intend, without objection, to cause this proposal to become pended. -- Jason Cobb
Subject: BUS: [Proposal] Minion Plan
I submit the following proposal. Title: Minion Plan Author: Thomas AI: 2 Strategy: If the goal of this proposal is to make the other player pay more than 1 Amend Rule 2481 by replacing the text "each
[@Referee] Petition Re: [Regitsrar] Re: BUS: Registration
On 7/21/2020 11:33 AM, Falsifian via agora-business wrote: > On 2020-07-21 12:41 a.m., N. S. via agora-business wrote: >> CFJ:after greg registered, there was one more player than there was before. > > As Registrar, I'm assuming the sender of these emails is not an organism > and therefore not a person. > > I think this would also mean G.'s finger-pointing was INEFFECTIVE so the > Referee NEED NOT respond to it. H. Referee Publius, I respectfully petition you to respond to the finger-pointing in some manner with an explanation of your choice to resolve the finger-pointing or not, in reference to the below arguments. I don't think the finger-pointing can be so readily dismissed (and knew it was 99% likely a bot when I pointed the finger). We've accepted in the past that if a person does a script to make announcements or the like, even with "randomness", that the person behind the job is the "person" involved. It's possible that the person behind this would be reasonably known as "greg" as an alias as result of this, and the resulting finger-pointing would be good. E.g. if this fake were done "by hand" (no randomness/machine learning involved) and it turned out a current player was behind it, we might say "well you've given us another alias for you (Greg), the registration failed, and you're still guilty of no faking". Why should adding randomness change that view? There's some various reasons/arguments this would fail but I think it needs more examination in that respect. -G.
[Regitsrar] Re: BUS: Registration
On 2020-07-21 12:41 a.m., N. S. via agora-business wrote: CFJ:after greg registered, there was one more player than there was before. As Registrar, I'm assuming the sender of these emails is not an organism and therefore not a person. I think this would also mean G.'s finger-pointing was INEFFECTIVE so the Referee NEED NOT respond to it. (greg / "G", please correct me if I'm wrong.) -- Falsifian
Re: BUS: A wild Ponzi scheme appears [attn. Notary]
On 7/17/20 8:45 PM, Jason Cobb wrote: > # SECTION 3: AVOIDING PROSECUTION > > The Administrator CAN, with notice, avoid prosecution. When e does so, e > transfers all coins from this contract to emself, and this contract is > destroyed. I intend, with notice, to avoid prosecution, as this appears to not be getting any further investment. -- Jason Cobb
BUS: [Diplonomic 2020] Resolution of Proposals
No proposals pass today. With 3 votes AGAINST and 1 FOR, I resolve Anonymous Proposal #1 as FAILED. With 4 votes AGAINST and 0 FOR, I resolve "A little bonus" as FAILED. With 3 votes AGAINST and 1 FOR, I resolve "Spies" as FAILED. With 4 votes AGAINST and 0 FOR, I resolve "drain the seas" as FAILED. Please submit your proposals for the next turn before 24:00 UTC. -- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth
BUS: [Contract] Agoran Underground Betting Ring
I create, consent to, etc the following contract: {
Title: The Agoran Underground Betting Ring
Any player may become a member of this contract by announcement. Any person who
is not the Ringleader or the Initiator or Challengor of a bet may leave this
contract by announcement.
The Ringleador is {Gaelan}. Any member may amend this contract by replacing the
part of this paragraph in curly braces with the name of another member of this
contract ("the new Ringleador"), provided that both the current Ringleader and
new Ringleador consent to this amendment. The text in curly braces shall not be
construed to do anything other than identify a member of this contract as the
Ringleador, nor may this contract be amended to cause the curly braces to
contain text that attempts to override this sentence.
A bet is an entity with the following attributes:
- a claim (a statement, or a salted cryptographic hash of a statement)
- a deadline (a description of a specific point in time, such that any player
can reasonably and easily determine if that time has passed, such as "August 1"
or "when Proposal 1234 is resolved")
- a wager (a natural number of coins)
- Initiator (a member of this contract)
Challengor is a bet switch, tracked by the Ringleador, with possible values of
null or any member of this contract and default value null. If a bet's
Challengor switch is set to a person, that person is said to be the bet's
Challengor. If a bet's Challengor switch is set to null, that bet is said to be
unaccepted.
Any member can create a bet by specifying its claim, deadline, and wager, and
transferring a number of coins equal to its wager to this contract. This
person becomes the bet's Initiator.
Any member CAN accept an unaccepted bet by transferring a number of coins equal
to its wager to this contract and flipping its Challenger switch to emself.
An unaccepted bet's Initiator CAN, by announcement, destroy it and transfer a
number of coins equal to its wager to emself.
If a bet's deadline has passed, and its claim (or the plaintext of its claim,
if it the claim was a cryptographic hash) is true, the bet's Initiator CAN, by
announcement, destroy it and transfer a number of coins equal to twice its
wager to emself.
If a bet's deadline has passed, and its claim (or the plaintext of its claim,
if it the claim was a cryptographic hash) is false or its truth is
indeterminate, the bet's Challengor CAN, by announcement, destroy it and
transfer a number of coins equal to twice its wager to emself.
The Ringleador's SHALL publish a weekly report containing the attributes of
each bet and the values of all Challengor switches.
}
BUS: Re: DIS: Friendly Neighborhood Notary Petitions the Honorable Associate Director of Personnel for a Change of Interest
ATMunn wrote: Dear H. ADoP, I, the Notary of Agora, humbly submit my request for the interests of the office of Notary to be updated. It is my humble opinion that the Notary not only deals with the Economy, but also has interests in player Participation. The Notary puts in a lot of effort into fulfilling eir duties and is currently rewarded very minimally, and is not even able to grant cards to eir fellow Agorans. Therefore, H. ADoP, I request that you use your official authority to flip the Interest switch of Notary to [Economy, Participation] without objection. Long live Agora! Dear H. Notary, As the standard for completing this request is without objection, I find no reason not to make the attempt as requested. I, the ADoP of Agora, hereby intend to flip the Interest switch of Notary to [Economy, Participation] without objection. Please treat Agora right good forever.
