Re: DIS: Re: BUS: AGORA QUEST

2020-10-18 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-business
On Sun, Oct 18, 2020 at 7:20 PM Reuben Staley via agora-discussion
 wrote:
>
> On 10/18/20 12:23 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-business wrote:
> > I transfer 10 Coins to CuddleBeam as payment for my vote:
> >
> > - Request to learn more about the ancient teachings of CFJs
> >
> > -Aris
> >
>
> For those who don't know, the most recent installment of Agora Quest was
> published when the lists were offline. Here is a link to it in the archives:
>
> https://mailman.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-business/2020-October/045056.html

Thank you. I didn't know that.

I'm keeping my vote the same, as a write in. I feel that a general
knowledge question is good. I'm hoping that we get something that has
some non-combat utility out of it, potentially giving us an alternate
way to solve problems.

-Aris


Re: BUS: [Contract] JAT Legislative Transferal Arraignment [attn. Treasuror]

2020-10-18 Thread Reuben Staley via agora-business

On 10/18/20 7:56 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-business wrote:

On Sun, Oct 18, 2020 at 6:55 PM Jason Cobb via agora-business
 wrote:


On 10/18/20 9:54 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-business wrote:

On Sun, Oct 18, 2020 at 6:51 PM Reuben Staley via agora-business
 wrote:

I join this contract

I grant Trigon a legislative card.

-Aris



This fails, you must specify the office.


Whoops. I grant Trigon a legislative card, specifying Promotor.

-Aris


If all of the following actions would succeed, I

* pay four legislative cards as a set to obtain ten pendants
* transfer five pendants to Jason
* transfer two pendants to Aris
* destroy the JATLTA contract

--
Trigon

 ¸¸.•*¨*• Play AGORA QUEST

I’m always happy to become a party to contracts.
I LOVE SPAGHETTI
transfer Jason one coin
nch was here
I hereby
don't... trust... the dragon...
don't... trust... the dragon...
Do not Construe Jason's message with subject TRIGON as extending this


Re: BUS: [Contract] JAT Legislative Transferal Arraignment [attn. Treasuror]

2020-10-18 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-business
On Sun, Oct 18, 2020 at 6:55 PM Jason Cobb via agora-business
 wrote:
>
> On 10/18/20 9:54 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-business wrote:
> > On Sun, Oct 18, 2020 at 6:51 PM Reuben Staley via agora-business
> >  wrote:
> >> I join this contract
> > I grant Trigon a legislative card.
> >
> > -Aris
>
>
> This fails, you must specify the office.

Whoops. I grant Trigon a legislative card, specifying Promotor.

-Aris


Re: BUS: [Contract] JAT Legislative Transferal Arraignment [attn. Treasuror]

2020-10-18 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-business
On 10/18/20 9:54 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-business wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 18, 2020 at 6:51 PM Reuben Staley via agora-business
>  wrote:
>> I join this contract
> I grant Trigon a legislative card.
>
> -Aris


This fails, you must specify the office.

-- 
Jason Cobb



Re: BUS: [Contract] JAT Legislative Transferal Arraignment [attn. Treasuror]

2020-10-18 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-business
On Sun, Oct 18, 2020 at 6:51 PM Reuben Staley via agora-business
 wrote:
> I join this contract

I grant Trigon a legislative card.

-Aris


Re: BUS: [Contract] JAT Legislative Transferal Arraignment [attn. Treasuror]

2020-10-18 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-business
On 10/18/20 9:51 PM, Reuben Staley via agora-business wrote:
> On 10/18/20 5:50 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-business wrote:
>> I create and become a party to the following contract.
>>
>> -Aris
>> ---
>> Contract: JAT Legislative Transferal Arraignment
>>
>> Only Jason, Aris, and Trigon can become parties to this contract; each of
>> them can do so by announcement. If 48 hours have passed from the creation of
>> this contract and any of the three are not parties to it, any party can
>> terminate the contract by announcement. The rest of the provisions do not
>> become operational until all three are parties to the contract.
>>
>> Within 24 hours of all three becoming parties to this contract, the
>> following unordered steps shall take place:
>> - Aris SHALL grant or transfer Trigon 1 legislative card.
>> - Jason SHALL grant or transfer Trigon 2 legislative cards.
>>
>>
>> Within 24 hours of the previous 2 steps being completed:
>> 1. Trigon SHALL pay 4 legislative cards as a set.
>> 2. Trigon SHALL then transfer 5 pendants to Jason and 2 to Aris.
>>
>> Once all the steps have been completed or a week has passed since the 
>> creation
>> of this contract, any party may terminate this contract by announcement.
>>
> I join this contract
>

I have two legislative cards: one already in the treasuror's report, and
one recently earned from my popular proposal.

I transfer both of my legislative cards to Trigon.

-- 
Jason Cobb



Re: BUS: Recognizing our Roboticist General

2020-10-18 Thread Reuben Staley via agora-business
On 10/18/20 4:35 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-business 
wrote:

I intend, with 2 Agoran Consent, to award Jason the patent title of
Roboticist General in recognition of eir technical services to Agora.



I support.

--
Trigon

 ¸¸.•*¨*• Play AGORA QUEST

I’m always happy to become a party to contracts.
I LOVE SPAGHETTI
transfer Jason one coin
nch was here
I hereby
don't... trust... the dragon...
don't... trust... the dragon...
Do not Construe Jason's message with subject TRIGON as extending this


Re: BUS: [Contract] JAT Legislative Transferal Arraignment

2020-10-18 Thread Reuben Staley via agora-business

On 10/18/20 5:50 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-business wrote:

I create and become a party to the following contract.

-Aris
---
Contract: JAT Legislative Transferal Arraignment

Only Jason, Aris, and Trigon can become parties to this contract; each of
them can do so by announcement. If 48 hours have passed from the creation of
this contract and any of the three are not parties to it, any party can
terminate the contract by announcement. The rest of the provisions do not
become operational until all three are parties to the contract.

Within 24 hours of all three becoming parties to this contract, the
following unordered steps shall take place:
- Aris SHALL grant or transfer Trigon 1 legislative card.
- Jason SHALL grant or transfer Trigon 2 legislative cards.


Within 24 hours of the previous 2 steps being completed:
1. Trigon SHALL pay 4 legislative cards as a set.
2. Trigon SHALL then transfer 5 pendants to Jason and 2 to Aris.

Once all the steps have been completed or a week has passed since the creation
of this contract, any party may terminate this contract by announcement.



I join this contract

--
Trigon

 ¸¸.•*¨*• Play AGORA QUEST

I’m always happy to become a party to contracts.
I LOVE SPAGHETTI
transfer Jason one coin
nch was here
I hereby
don't... trust... the dragon...
don't... trust... the dragon...
Do not Construe Jason's message with subject TRIGON as extending this


Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Coopor] Bargain-hunting

2020-10-18 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-business



On 10/18/2020 5:42 PM, ATMunn via agora-business wrote:
> On 10/18/2020 7:54 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-business wrote:
>> On Sun, Oct 18, 2020 at 4:53 PM Jason Cobb via agora-business
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> On 10/18/20 7:50 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-official wrote:

 I intend to place the following bargain on the barrel, with 3 support:

 Tender:  legislative, legislative, justice, justice.
 Payout: 5


 I intend to place the following bargain on the barrel, with 3 support:

 Tender: legislative, legislative, voting, voting.
 Payout: 5


 I intend to place the following bargain on the barrel, with 3 support:

 Tender: justice, justice, voting, voting.
 Payout: 5


 I intend to place the following bargain on the barrel, with 3 support:

 Tender: victory, legislative, voting, justice.
 Payout: 10

Having gotten 3 support for each, I place each of the above bargains on
the barrel.

-G.






BUS: @Treasuror Re: OFF: [Promotor] Proposal Pool

2020-10-18 Thread ATMunn via agora-business

On 10/18/2020 1:17 AM, Aris Merchant via agora-official wrote:

ATMunn, G., Falsifian1.0   Happy Belated Birthday v3


I pay a pendant to cause this proposal to become Sponsored.

--
ATMunn
friendly neighborhood notary and Prime Minister of Agora :)


Re: BUS: Recognizing our Roboticist General

2020-10-18 Thread ATMunn via agora-business

On 10/18/2020 6:36 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-business wrote:

On Sun, Oct 18, 2020 at 3:35 PM Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via
agora-business  wrote:


I intend, with 2 Agoran Consent, to award Jason the patent title of
Roboticist General in recognition of eir technical services to Agora.



I support.

-Aris






I support.

--
ATMunn
friendly neighborhood notary and Prime Minister of Agora :)


Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Coopor] Bargain-hunting

2020-10-18 Thread ATMunn via agora-business

On 10/18/2020 7:54 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-business wrote:

On Sun, Oct 18, 2020 at 4:53 PM Jason Cobb via agora-business
 wrote:


On 10/18/20 7:50 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-official wrote:


I intend to place the following bargain on the barrel, with 3 support:

Tender:  legislative, legislative, justice, justice.
Payout: 5


I intend to place the following bargain on the barrel, with 3 support:

Tender: legislative, legislative, voting, voting.
Payout: 5


I intend to place the following bargain on the barrel, with 3 support:

Tender: justice, justice, voting, voting.
Payout: 5


I intend to place the following bargain on the barrel, with 3 support:

Tender: victory, legislative, voting, justice.
Payout: 10


I intend to take the following bargains off the barrel, with Notice (after
winning the Coopor election):

Bargain 1, Payout 7
Tender: Voting, Legislative, Victory, Legislative, Justice, Voting

Bargain 2, payout 10
Tender: Victory, Victory, Voting, Victory, Victory, Legislative

Bargain 3 payout 8
Tender: Victory, Justice, Justice, Voting, Legislative, Legislative

Bargain 4 payout 3
Tender:  Voting, Legislative, Victory, Justice, Justice, Legislative

-G.



I support all above intents.


As do I.

-Aris



And as do I.

--
ATMunn
friendly neighborhood notary and Prime Minister of Agora :)


Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Coopor] Bargain-hunting

2020-10-18 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-business
On Sun, Oct 18, 2020 at 4:53 PM Jason Cobb via agora-business
 wrote:
>
> On 10/18/20 7:50 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-official wrote:
> >
> > I intend to place the following bargain on the barrel, with 3 support:
> >
> > Tender:  legislative, legislative, justice, justice.
> > Payout: 5
> >
> >
> > I intend to place the following bargain on the barrel, with 3 support:
> >
> > Tender: legislative, legislative, voting, voting.
> > Payout: 5
> >
> >
> > I intend to place the following bargain on the barrel, with 3 support:
> >
> > Tender: justice, justice, voting, voting.
> > Payout: 5
> >
> >
> > I intend to place the following bargain on the barrel, with 3 support:
> >
> > Tender: victory, legislative, voting, justice.
> > Payout: 10
> >
> >
> > I intend to take the following bargains off the barrel, with Notice (after
> > winning the Coopor election):
> >
> > Bargain 1, Payout 7
> > Tender: Voting, Legislative, Victory, Legislative, Justice, Voting
> >
> > Bargain 2, payout 10
> > Tender: Victory, Victory, Voting, Victory, Victory, Legislative
> >
> > Bargain 3 payout 8
> > Tender: Victory, Justice, Justice, Voting, Legislative, Legislative
> >
> > Bargain 4 payout 3
> > Tender:  Voting, Legislative, Victory, Justice, Justice, Legislative
> >
> > -G.
> >
>
> I support all above intents.

As do I.

-Aris


BUS: Re: OFF: [Coopor] Bargain-hunting

2020-10-18 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-business
On 10/18/20 7:50 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-official wrote:
>
> I intend to place the following bargain on the barrel, with 3 support:
>
> Tender:  legislative, legislative, justice, justice.
> Payout: 5
>
>
> I intend to place the following bargain on the barrel, with 3 support:
>
> Tender: legislative, legislative, voting, voting.
> Payout: 5
>
>
> I intend to place the following bargain on the barrel, with 3 support:
>
> Tender: justice, justice, voting, voting.
> Payout: 5
>
>
> I intend to place the following bargain on the barrel, with 3 support:
>
> Tender: victory, legislative, voting, justice.
> Payout: 10
>
>
> I intend to take the following bargains off the barrel, with Notice (after
> winning the Coopor election):
>
> Bargain 1, Payout 7
> Tender: Voting, Legislative, Victory, Legislative, Justice, Voting
>
> Bargain 2, payout 10
> Tender: Victory, Victory, Voting, Victory, Victory, Legislative
>
> Bargain 3 payout 8
> Tender: Victory, Justice, Justice, Voting, Legislative, Legislative
>
> Bargain 4 payout 3
> Tender:  Voting, Legislative, Victory, Justice, Justice, Legislative
>
> -G.
>

I support all above intents.

-- 
Jason Cobb



Re: BUS: [Contract] JAT Legislative Transferal Arraignment

2020-10-18 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-business
On 10/18/20 7:50 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-business wrote:
> I create and become a party to the following contract.
>
> -Aris
> ---
> Contract: JAT Legislative Transferal Arraignment
>
> Only Jason, Aris, and Trigon can become parties to this contract; each of
> them can do so by announcement. If 48 hours have passed from the creation of
> this contract and any of the three are not parties to it, any party can
> terminate the contract by announcement. The rest of the provisions do not
> become operational until all three are parties to the contract.
>
> Within 24 hours of all three becoming parties to this contract, the
> following unordered steps shall take place:
> - Aris SHALL grant or transfer Trigon 1 legislative card.
> - Jason SHALL grant or transfer Trigon 2 legislative cards.
>
>
> Within 24 hours of the previous 2 steps being completed:
> 1. Trigon SHALL pay 4 legislative cards as a set.
> 2. Trigon SHALL then transfer 5 pendants to Jason and 2 to Aris.
>
> Once all the steps have been completed or a week has passed since the creation
> of this contract, any party may terminate this contract by announcement.


I become party to the above contract.

-- 
Jason Cobb



BUS: [Contract] JAT Legislative Transferal Arraignment

2020-10-18 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-business
I create and become a party to the following contract.

-Aris
---
Contract: JAT Legislative Transferal Arraignment

Only Jason, Aris, and Trigon can become parties to this contract; each of
them can do so by announcement. If 48 hours have passed from the creation of
this contract and any of the three are not parties to it, any party can
terminate the contract by announcement. The rest of the provisions do not
become operational until all three are parties to the contract.

Within 24 hours of all three becoming parties to this contract, the
following unordered steps shall take place:
- Aris SHALL grant or transfer Trigon 1 legislative card.
- Jason SHALL grant or transfer Trigon 2 legislative cards.


Within 24 hours of the previous 2 steps being completed:
1. Trigon SHALL pay 4 legislative cards as a set.
2. Trigon SHALL then transfer 5 pendants to Jason and 2 to Aris.

Once all the steps have been completed or a week has passed since the creation
of this contract, any party may terminate this contract by announcement.


BUS: Covering My Bases

2020-10-18 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-business
If I have not already done so, I award the Patent Title of Champion to
G., nix, and Jason. According to my records, I had done this, but I
couldn't find it.
-- 

Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate
Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth


Re: BUS: [Proposal] adMinistration (attempt 2)

2020-10-18 Thread nix via agora-business
On 10/18/20 8:23 AM, nix via agora-business wrote:
> Title: adMinistration v1.1
> Power: 2.0
> Author: nix
> Co-Authors: Trigon, Aris

I pay a pendant to pend this proposal.

-- 
nix
Webmastor



BUS: Pendant Promise

2020-10-18 Thread Reuben Staley via agora-business
If the following all succeed, I do them.

I transfer one pendant to nix then cash eir promise, causing em to transfer 30 
coins to me.

--
Trigon

¸¸.•*¨*• Play AGORA QUEST



Re: BUS: Pendant Promise

2020-10-18 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-business



On 10/18/2020 4:15 PM, nix via agora-business wrote:
> I grant 1 copy of the below promise to Trigon, and 1 copy to myself:
> 
> {
> Cashing Condition: Bearer transfers 1 pendant to nix.
> 
> nix transfers 30 coins to the bearer.
> }
> 
> I transfer my copy to the library.
> 

I transfer the abovementioned promise from the library, transfer 1 pendant
to nix, and cash the promise.

-G.



BUS: [Arbitor] Reward

2020-10-18 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-business


I grant 5 coins to Aris for timely judgement on CFJ 3884.

-G.



BUS: Pendant Promise

2020-10-18 Thread nix via agora-business
I grant 1 copy of the below promise to Trigon, and 1 copy to myself:

{
Cashing Condition: Bearer transfers 1 pendant to nix.

nix transfers 30 coins to the bearer.
}

I transfer my copy to the library.

-- 
nix
Webmastor



BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposals 8504-8506 [attn. Treasuror]

2020-10-18 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-business
On 10/16/20 4:08 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-official wrote:
> PROPOSAL 8505 (Card clarifications)
> AUTHOR: Jason
> CLASS: ORDINARY
> CHAMBER: ECONOMY
> SPONSORED: YES
> FOR (8): ATMunn&, Aris, Baron von Vanderham, Falsifian, Jason, Telnaior, nix, 
> twg
> AGAINST (0): 
> PRESENT (0): 
> BALLOTS: 8
> AI (F/A): 28/0 (AI=1.0)
> POPULARITY: 1.000
> OUTCOME: ADOPTED
> [
> Aris: Endorsement of Jason
> Baron von Vanderham: Endorsement of Jason
> Telnaior: Endorsement of Aris
> twg: Endorsement of Falsifian
> ]


I earn a legislative card for the adoption of the above proposal.

-- 
Jason Cobb



Re: BUS: Cuddlebeam Degree Intent

2020-10-18 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-business
On 10/11/20 1:29 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-business
wrote:
> Having not received any further feedback, I intend with 2 Agoran Consent
> to award Cuddlebeam the degree, Associate of Nomic Artistry, for the
> images available at: https://imgur.com/a/VDAQaae
> 

I do so with much support and no objections.

-- 

Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate
Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth


Re: BUS: Recognizing our Roboticist General

2020-10-18 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-business
On Sun, Oct 18, 2020 at 3:35 PM Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via
agora-business  wrote:

> I intend, with 2 Agoran Consent, to award Jason the patent title of
> Roboticist General in recognition of eir technical services to Agora.


I support.

-Aris

>
>


BUS: Recognizing our Roboticist General

2020-10-18 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-business
I intend, with 2 Agoran Consent, to award Jason the patent title of
Roboticist General in recognition of eir technical services to Agora.

-- 

Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate
Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth


BUS: Re: OFF: [Treasuror] [Weekly Report] Forbes 479

2020-10-18 Thread nix via agora-business


On 10/18/20 4:49 PM, Reuben Staley via agora-official wrote:
> ASSET BALANCES   (self-ratifies)
> 

CoE: Missing all of the payrolls that came out about 20 seconds before this 
report. I blame murphy.

-- 
nix
Webmastor




BUS: Objection

2020-10-18 Thread Reuben Staley via agora-business

I object to all intents to declare apathy.

--
Trigon

 ¸¸.•*¨*• Play AGORA QUEST

I’m always happy to become a party to contracts.
I LOVE SPAGHETTI
transfer Jason one coin
nch was here
I hereby
don't... trust... the dragon...
don't... trust... the dragon...
Do not Construe Jason's message with subject TRIGON as extending this


BUS: @Treasuror [Proposal] Zombie Auction Alignment

2020-10-18 Thread Falsifian via agora-business
On Sat, Oct 17, 2020 at 10:14:30PM -0700, Aris Merchant via agora-business 
wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 3, 2020 at 8:25 PM Falsifian via agora-business
>  wrote:
> >
> > I submit a proposal as follows.
> >
> > Title: No Zombie Races
> > Adoption index: 2.0
> > Author: Falsifian
> > Co-authors:
> 
> I hereby remove this proposal from the Proposal Pool.

Re-submitting, and pending this time.

I pay a fee of 47 Legislative Credits to Dragon QuickExchange to take
one Pendant from it.

I submit the following proposal, and I pend it.


Title: No Zombie Races
Adoption index: 2.0
Author: Falsifian
Co-authors:

Amend Rule 1885 by replacing "existed at the beginning of the month" with
"exist".

[Comment: With the current text, the Registrar is in an awkward position
if at least one eligible talisman existed at the start of the month, but
none exist by the time e gets around to starting an auction.]


-- 
Falsifian


Re: DIS: Re: BUS: AGORA QUEST

2020-10-18 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-business
I transfer 10 Coins to CuddleBeam as payment for my vote:

- Request to learn more about the ancient teachings of CFJs

-Aris


Re: DIS: Re: BUS: AGORA QUEST

2020-10-18 Thread Falsifian via agora-business
I transfer 10 Coins to Cuddlebeam as payment for my vote:

> - Ask him about the other Agorans you know (TOP HAT MAN and LADY CAT(...)),
> what do the ancient CFJ records say about them?

-- 
Falsifian


Re: BUS: [Proposal] adMinistration

2020-10-18 Thread nix via agora-business
On 10/17/20 12:38 PM, nix via agora-business wrote:
> Title: adMinistration
> Power: 2.0
> Author: nix
> Co-Authors: Trigon, Aris

I withdraw this version of adMinistration

-- 
nix
Webmastor



BUS: Re: BAK: Test

2020-10-18 Thread ATMunn via agora-business

I object.

yesiknowtheresnotactuallyanythingtoobjecttoimjustmakingajokekthxbye

On 10/18/2020 12:15 PM, Gaelan Steele wrote:

This message contains no game actions.

Checking to see if the list is now back to real-time.

Gaealn


On Oct 17, 2020, at 7:02 PM, Jason Cobb  wrote:

This is only a test. This message contains no game actions.

--
Jason Cobb

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ATMunn
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BUS: [Proposal] adMinistration

2020-10-18 Thread nix via agora-business
A couple days ago I published The State of the Agoran Economy outlining 
several thoughts about current economics, and a few issues. Here is a 
proposal aimed at issues A (card & set supplies are hard to strategize 
about) and B (assets are too gerontocratic). The main features of this 
proposal are:

* Player Focus, analogous to Office Interests
* A rethinking of the list of Ministries (because the assignments of the 
current list are very uneven)
* An office to track Focus and Interest (taking the responsibility away 
from ADoP)

In this proposal, I take card grants away from offices and give it to 
players based on their Focus. You can set your focus freely, but it only 
changes once a month at the beginning of the month. Each of the 5 
focuses has a monthly advantage: 3 receive cards, 1 receives a portion 
of a pot of coins (based on how many other people take the focus), and 
one has a chance to receive a victory card (and receives a single 
victory point if they don't get the card). The result should be a much 
more dynamic card market, as players will determine the supply in a 
decentralized way based on their own strategies.

I submit, but do not pend, the following proposal:

{

Title: adMinistration
Power: 2.0
Author: nix
Co-Authors: Trigon, Aris

Amend R2605, "Ministries", to read in full:

   A Ministry is an entity defined as such by this rule. Each
   Ministry has a goal. The Ministries of Agora, and their goals,
   are as follows:

    A. Ministry of Compliance: Ensure players follow rules and
    voluntary agreements and receive appropriate sanctions when they
    do not.
    B. Ministry of Legislation: Enable and encourage gameplay
    related to the rules themselves.
    C. Ministry of Economy: Enable and encourage gameplay related to
    assets and currencies.
    D. Ministry of Legacy: Track and reward great Agoran
    achievements
    E. Ministry of Participation: Track information about the
    participation of people in Agora.

(Reworked the list to hopefully have a better distribution in offices
and proposals)

Enact a new Power=1 rule titled "The Ministor" with the following text:

   The Ministor is an office, tasked with overseeing gameplay
   related to Ministries. The Ministor SHALL publish eir monthly
   report in a timely manner from the beginning of the month.

Nix assumes the office of Ministor.

(New office with a special time sensitive monthly report, to ensure
these things are easy for players to keep up on)

Enact a new Power=2 rule titled "Office Interests" with the following
text:

   Ministry Interest (or just Interest) is a secured office switch,
   tracked by the Ministor in eir monthly report, whose possible
   values are lists of ministries, defaulting to the empty list. The
   Ministor CAN flip an office's Ministry Interests without
   objection.

   For each item of each office's Ministry Interest, that office's
   holder's voting strength is increased by 2 on proposals whose
   Ministry Impact is set to that Ministry.

(Note that this moves a duty that used to belong to ADoP to Ministor.
It just makes a bit more sense here.)

When this proposal passes flip the Ministry Interest switch of every
office to the value of that office's Interest switch immediately before
this proposal passed with the following changes, applied in order:

* replace every instance of "justice" with "compliance"
* replace every instance of "efficiency" with "participation"

(This will ensure that every office still has at least one interest,
but it will also change some switches in undesirable ways. I'll, as
Ministor, separately intend to fix a bunch of these offices' interests
to better match the new categories)

Enact a new Power=2 rule titled "Player Focuses" with the following
text:

   Ministry Focus (or just Focus) is a secured active player switch,
   tracked by the Ministor, with possible values Unfocused (the
   default) and any Ministry.

   An active player CAN Plan to Flip eir own Ministry Focus,
   specifying any valid value for eir Ministry Focus, by
   announcement. At the beginning of a month, every active player's
   Ministry Focus is set to the value e mostly recently specified by
   Planning to Flip. If a player did not Plan to Flip eir Ministry
   Focus switch in the last month, it is not flipped.

(This, combined with the below rule, will take over the card grants
that offices used to get, making it less gerontocratic and more
strategic.)

Amend R2624, "Card Administration", to be titled "Focus Grants" and to
read in full:

   Each of the following Ministries has a Grant, listed below.

   Ministry of Compliance: 1 Justice Card
   Ministry of Legislation: 1 Legislative Card
   Ministry of Participation: 1 Voting Card
   Ministry of Economy: 50 coins divided by X, rounded up; where X
   is the number of 

BUS: Test

2020-10-18 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-business
This is only a test. This message contains no game actions.

-- 
Jason Cobb



BUS: All Hail the Speaker!

2020-10-18 Thread ATMunn via agora-business

I hereby, as Prime Minister of Agora, appoint G. to the office of
Speaker, as e was one of 3 recently Laureled players.

For the record, I have no preference between the three - G. was chosen
at random using AgoraBot's RNG function on Discord.

Apologies for being a day late - I completely forgot about this. pls no
finger point thx

--
ATMunn
friendly neighborhood notary and Prime Minister of Agora :)


BUS: [Proposal] adMinistration (attempt 2)

2020-10-18 Thread nix via agora-business
(It's possible a nearly identical version of this will show up soon, 
having been sent when the fora were down.)

A couple days ago I published The State of the Agoran Economy outlining
several thoughts about current economics, and a few issues. Here is a
proposal aimed at issues A (card & set supplies are hard to strategize
about) and B (assets are too gerontocratic). The main features of this
proposal are:

* Player Focus, analogous to Office Interests
* A rethinking of the list of Ministries (because the assignments of the
current list are very uneven)
* An office to track Focus and Interest (taking the responsibility away
from ADoP)

In this proposal, I take card grants away from offices and give it to
players based on their Focus. You can set your focus freely, but it only
changes once a month at the beginning of the month. Each of the 5
focuses has a monthly advantage: 3 receive cards, 1 receives a portion
of a pot of coins (based on how many other people take the focus), and
one has a chance to receive a victory card (and receives a single
victory point if they don't get the card). The result should be a much
more dynamic card market, as players will determine the supply in a
decentralized way based on their own strategies.

I submit, but do not pend, the following proposal:

{

Title: adMinistration v1.1
Power: 2.0
Author: nix
Co-Authors: Trigon, Aris

Amend R2605, "Ministries", to read in full:

   A Ministry is an entity defined as such by this rule. Each
   Ministry has a goal. The Ministries of Agora, and their goals,
   are as follows:

A. Ministry of Compliance: Ensure players follow rules and
voluntary agreements and receive appropriate sanctions when they
do not.
B. Ministry of Legislation: Enable and encourage gameplay
related to the rules themselves.
C. Ministry of Economy: Enable and encourage gameplay related to
assets and currencies.
D. Ministry of Legacy: Track and reward great Agoran
achievements
E. Ministry of Participation: Track information about the
participation of people in Agora.

(Reworked the list to hopefully have a better distribution in offices
and proposals)

Enact a new Power=1 rule titled "The Ministor" with the following text:

   The Ministor is an office, tasked with overseeing gameplay
   related to Ministries. The Ministor SHALL publish eir monthly
   report in a timely manner from the beginning of the month.

Nix assumes the office of Ministor.

(New office with a special time sensitive monthly report, to ensure
these things are easy for players to keep up on)

Enact a new Power=2 rule titled "Office Interests" with the following
text:

   Ministry Interest (or just Interest) is a secured office switch,
   tracked by the Ministor in eir monthly report, whose possible
   values are lists of ministries, defaulting to the empty list. The
   Ministor CAN flip an office's Ministry Interests without
   objection.

   For each item of each office's Ministry Interest, that office's
   holder's voting strength is increased by 2 on proposals whose
   Ministry Impact is set to that Ministry.

(Note that this moves a duty that used to belong to ADoP to Ministor.
It just makes a bit more sense here.)

When this proposal passes flip the Ministry Interest switch of every
office to the value of that office's Interest switch immediately before
this proposal passed with the following changes, applied in order:

* replace every instance of "justice" with "compliance"
* replace every instance of "efficiency" with "participation"

(This will ensure that every office still has at least one interest,
but it will also change some switches in undesirable ways. I'll, as
Ministor, separately intend to fix a bunch of these offices' interests
to better match the new categories)

Enact a new Power=2 rule titled "Player Focuses" with the following
text:

   Ministry Focus (or just Focus) is a secured active player switch,
   tracked by the Ministor in eir monthly report, with possible values
   Unfocused (the default) and any Ministry.

   An active player CAN Plan to Flip eir own Ministry Focus,
   specifying any valid value for eir Ministry Focus, by
   announcement. At the beginning of a month, every active player's
   Ministry Focus is set to the value e mostly recently specified by
   Planning to Flip. If a player did not Plan to Flip eir Ministry
   Focus switch in the last month, it is not flipped.

(This, combined with the below rule, will take over the card grants
that offices used to get, making it less gerontocratic and more
strategic.)

Amend R2624, "Card Administration", to be titled "Focus Grants" and to
read in full:

   Each of the following Ministries has a Grant, listed below.

   Ministry of Compliance: 1 Justice Card
   Ministry of Legislation: 1 Legislative Card
   Ministry of