BUS: Re: OFF: [Referee] Investigation of Telna and Indictment (plz support/oppose)
On 2021-06-19 07:29, Rebecca Lee via agora-official wrote: Telna pointed a finger at emself for Unjustified Gesticulation for eir finger pointing that was later found shenanigans. Original point (found shenanigans): https://mailman.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-business/2021-June/046723.html Second point: https://mailman.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-business/2021-June/046794.html Telna did indeed commit unjustified gesticulation by pointing a finger found to be Shenanigans. Because e did not point any other such fingers earlier in the week, the crime is class 0. Rule 2557 allows me to issue a Warning for class 0 crimes. Unfortunately, I cannot impose any blots by the Cold Hand of Justice under rule 2557 because I can impose a number of blots that is at most twice the crime's class, which is still 0. Clearly, Telna pointed this finger for personal gain of a justice card. E essentially admitted as such on discord. The element of profitability makes an upward variance appropriate (2557). I therefore intend, with 1.5 Agoran consent (this is the procedure under a new proposal, https://agoranomic.org/assessor/proposal/8560.txt) to Indict Telna, levying a fine of 2 blots. I object, stop bullying the newbie :(
BUS: Re: OFF: [Referee] Investigation of Telna and Indictment (plz support/oppose)
I support this. On Fri, Jun 18, 2021 at 5:30 PM Rebecca Lee via agora-official < agora-offic...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > Telna pointed a finger at emself for Unjustified Gesticulation for eir > finger pointing that was later found shenanigans. Original point (found > shenanigans): > > https://mailman.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-business/2021-June/046723.html > Second point: > > https://mailman.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-business/2021-June/046794.html > > Telna did indeed commit unjustified gesticulation by pointing a finger > found to be Shenanigans. Because e did not point any other such fingers > earlier in the week, the crime is class 0. Rule 2557 allows me to issue a > Warning for class 0 crimes. Unfortunately, I cannot impose any blots by the > Cold Hand of Justice under rule 2557 because I can impose a number of > blots that is at most twice the crime's class, which is still 0. > > Clearly, Telna pointed this finger for personal gain of a justice card. E > essentially admitted as such on discord. The element of profitability makes > an upward variance appropriate (2557). I therefore intend, with 1.5 Agoran > consent (this is the procedure under a new proposal, > https://agoranomic.org/assessor/proposal/8560.txt) to Indict Telna, > levying > a fine of 2 blots. > -- > From R. Lee >
BUS: Re: OFF: [Referee] Investigation of Telna and Indictment (plz support/oppose)
On 6/18/21 5:29 PM, Rebecca Lee via agora-official wrote: > Clearly, Telna pointed this finger for personal gain of a justice card. E > essentially admitted as such on discord. The element of profitability makes > an upward variance appropriate (2557). I therefore intend, with 1.5 Agoran > consent (this is the procedure under a new proposal, > https://agoranomic.org/assessor/proposal/8560.txt) to Indict Telna, levying > a fine of 2 blots. I support. -- Jason Cobb Assessor, Rulekeepor, Stonemason
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Contract & Promise Cleanup
> On Jun 18, 2021, at 8:46 AM, ATMunn via agora-business > wrote: > > Good point. I intend, without objection, to revoke the promise > "Treasure" from the Lost and Found Department I object; I believe the intent of that promise was to provide a prize for anyone with a way to steal from the L Gaelan
Re: BUS: [@Referee] What is the Unit of Flotation?
On 2021-06-16 13:34, Telna via agora-business wrote: I Point my Finger at Trigon for not tracking the Unit of Flotation in eir weekly report as directed by Rule 2635 "Floating Rate Fleet". I point my Finger at Telna for committing the crime of Unjustified Gesticulation in the quoted message.
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Contract & Promise Cleanup
On 6/18/2021 11:46 AM, ATMunn wrote: On an unrelated note, I cease to be a party to the contracts "Contract No. 2: POEM" and "Contract No. 5: DECK". I should really read things more. This failed, as the contracts' text does not allow parties to leave. I intend, without 2 objections, to terminate the contract "Contract No. 1: GIFT". I intend, without 2 objections, to terminate the contract "Contract No. 2: POEM". I intend, without 2 objections, to terminate the contract "Contract No. 5: DECK". I intend, without 2 objections, to terminate the contract "Contract No. 6: BOON". -- ATMunn friendly neighborhood notary :)
Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Contract & Promise Cleanup
On 6/18/2021 11:24 AM, Telna via agora-discussion wrote: On 2021-06-19 01:00, ATMunn via agora-business wrote: I intend, without objection, to revoke the promise "Treasure" [created by omd] from the Library. Worth noting this promise is owned by the Lost and Found Department, which I think means you need to restate the intent for it to count. (It's still possible as the Lost and Found Department lets you destroy anything it owns without objection, at least) Good point. I intend, without objection, to revoke the promise "Treasure" from the Lost and Found Department. On an unrelated note, I cease to be a party to the contracts "Contract No. 2: POEM" and "Contract No. 5: DECK". -- ATMunn friendly neighborhood notary :)
Re: BUS: Contract & Promise Cleanup
On 6/18/2021 11:00 AM, ATMunn via agora-business wrote: -- contracts -- I cease to be a party to the contract "The Bank" [parties: me], causing it to be terminated. I cease to be a party to the contract "The Contract Awards: The Contract" [parties: me], causing it to be terminated. I intend, without 2 objections, to terminate the contract "Obstruction" [parties: omd]. I intend, without 2 objections, to terminate the contract "Team Margaux" [parties: Gaelan, Nathan, shelvacu, Cuddlebeam]. I intend, without 2 objections, to terminate the contract "The Supertask Experiment" [parties: Nathan]. I intend, without 2 objections, to terminate the contract "The Supertask Experiment Redux" [parties: Nathan]. [There are quite a few more contracts that I considered shredding, but I decided to start on the conservative side.] I also destroy the contract "Agorans for a Democratic Society", as its provisions allow any party to destroy the contract if it is past April 1, 2021. -- ATMunn friendly neighborhood notary :)
BUS: Contract & Promise Cleanup
-- contracts -- I cease to be a party to the contract "The Bank" [parties: me], causing it to be terminated. I cease to be a party to the contract "The Contract Awards: The Contract" [parties: me], causing it to be terminated. I intend, without 2 objections, to terminate the contract "Obstruction" [parties: omd]. I intend, without 2 objections, to terminate the contract "Team Margaux" [parties: Gaelan, Nathan, shelvacu, Cuddlebeam]. I intend, without 2 objections, to terminate the contract "The Supertask Experiment" [parties: Nathan]. I intend, without 2 objections, to terminate the contract "The Supertask Experiment Redux" [parties: Nathan]. [There are quite a few more contracts that I considered shredding, but I decided to start on the conservative side.] -- promises -- I revoke the promise "Open Trade" [created by me] from the Library. I revoke the promise "Not Quite As Open Trade" [created by me] from the Library. I intend, without objection, to revoke the promise "Treasure" [created by omd] from the Library. I intend, without objection, to revoke the promise "Reverse auction" [created by Murphy] from the Library. -- ATMunn friendly neighborhood notary :)
Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Notary] The Notes (contracts)
On 6/16/2021 9:38 PM, Rebecca Lee via agora-business wrote: Sorry my phone wouldn't let me bottom post with such a long message. What I meant to say (I really promise) is COE: I am listed as a member of team Margaux but the history lists me as leaving Acknowledged. Since this is a pretty minor thing and it doesn't self-ratify anyway, I won't publish a revision, but I fixed it in my local copy for the next report. -- ATMunn friendly neighborhood notary :)
Re: BUS: [Attn: ATMunn, Jason] [Obstructive Pooling] Amendments
On 6/18/2021 12:41 AM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote:
On 6/18/21 12:28 AM, Falsifian via agora-business wrote:
Title: Pooling the responsibility
{
At the end of the following paragraph:
The Trustee SHOULD exchange four Victory Cards for ten Victory
Points whenever possible.
append the sentence:
Any party to this contract CAN act on behalf of the Trustee to do
so.
}
I consent.
As do I.
--
ATMunn
friendly neighborhood notary :)
Re: BUS: [Attn: ATMunn, Jason] [Obstructive Pooling] Amendments
On 6/18/2021 12:42 AM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote:
On 6/18/21 12:38 AM, Falsifian via agora-business wrote:
Title: VP Drain Fix v1.1
Co-author: Jason
{
At the end of the following paragraph:
Decipoints are a currency. A Victory Point is worth ten Decipoints
and a Victory Card is worth 25 Decipoints.
add the sentence:
A Victory Product is a Victory Card or a Victory Point.
Replace:
The Trustee CAN transfer Victory Cards and Victory Points from this
contract to emself by announcement.
with
The Trustee CAN transfer Victory Products from this contract to
emself by announcement. Any party to this contract CAN act on
behalf of the Trustee to transfer Victory Products Points from this
contract to the Trustee.
Replace the following text:
Any player (the withdrawer) CAN act on behalf of the Trustee to
transfer Victory Cards and/or Victory Points to the withdrawer with
value up to the withdrawer's Decipoints balance; when the withdrawer
does this, that value in Decipoints in eir possession is destroyed.
with:
To Withdraw is to act on behalf of the Trustee to transfer Victory
Products to oneself. When a player Withdraws, the corresponding
value in Decipoints is destroyed from the Withdrawer's possession.
Any player CAN Withdraw Victory Products as long as all of the
following are true:
1. The contract owns no Victory Products.
2. The Victory Products being withdrawn do not exceed the
withdrawer's balance before the withdrawal.
3. No Victory Points are being withdrawn, or the Trustee owns no
Victory Cards, or the Withdrawal includes all of the Trustee's
Victory Cards. (In other words: preference must be given to
withdrawing Cards.)
}
I consent.
As do I.
--
ATMunn
friendly neighborhood notary :)
BUS: [@Notary] Revamping Lee's Card Shop
I amend (as the only party), the contract "Lee's Card Shop" so that it has
the following text.
{Any player may join or leave this contract at any time, by announcement.
Any party may act on behalf of R. Lee to execute the following transfers,
after transferring the specified assets to R. Lee. If R. Lee or the buyer
does not have any of the assets required to make a certain transfer, that
transfer cannot be made.
R. Lee can unilaterally add or subtract transfers to the following list at
any time - but not in order to thwart a transfer in progress or already
made.
1. R Lee gives 300 coins, R. Lee receives a Legislative Card
2. R. Lee gives a Victory Card, R. Lee receives 4000 coins
3. R. Lee gives 80 coins, R. Lee receives 2 pendants.
4. R. Lee gives a Legislative Card, R. Lee receives a Victory Card.}
--
>From R. Lee
