Re: BUS: [ADoP] Election Time Extension

[Owen Jacobson]

> On Oct 5, 2017, at 2:11 AM, VJ Rada  wrote:
> 
> On the 27th, I initiated elections for Tailor and Assessor. I had the
> quorum at 2.0 but it was actually 8.0, I was right the first time. The
> incorrect statement changed nothing. Therefore, the election is
> extended by another 7 days. The votes currently stand at this:
> 
> ===Tailor===
> Alexis: Alexis
> Quazie: Endorse G unless that would lead to a vote for Quazie
> Trigon: Alexis
> PSS: {Alexis, PSS}
> o. If Alexis votes, endorse Alexis.

On this decision, I vote for Alexis.

> ===Assessor===
> Alexis: Endorse G.
> Quazie: Endorse G unless that would lead to a vote for Quazie
> Trigon: Endorse G.
> PSS: {PSS, G}
> o.: The first player to unconditionally vote themselves (that is currently 
> PSS)

On this decision, I vote for PSS.

-o



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Re: BUS: [ADoP] Election Time Extension

[ATMunn .]

I vote PRESENT in both elections.

I create a pledge as follows:
If any player pays me 5 or more shinies, along with a name of a player and
election, I will change my vote to the name of the player e specified in
the election that e specified.
If the player does not specify another player name, I will change my vote
to em.
If the player does not specify an election, regardless of whether or not e
specified a player, I will pay back the shinies to em, and not change my
vote.
I will only do this once per election.
This pledge only applies to the current ongoing elections for Tailor and
Assessor as of October 5, 2017.

On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 2:11 AM, VJ Rada  wrote:

> On the 27th, I initiated elections for Tailor and Assessor. I had the
> quorum at 2.0 but it was actually 8.0, I was right the first time. The
> incorrect statement changed nothing. Therefore, the election is
> extended by another 7 days. The votes currently stand at this:
>
> ===Tailor===
> Alexis: Alexis
> Quazie: Endorse G unless that would lead to a vote for Quazie
> Trigon: Alexis
> PSS: {Alexis, PSS}
> o. If Alexis votes, endorse Alexis.
>
> ===Assessor===
> Alexis: Endorse G.
> Quazie: Endorse G unless that would lead to a vote for Quazie
> Trigon: Endorse G.
> PSS: {PSS, G}
> o.: The first player to unconditionally vote themselves (that is currently
> PSS)
>
> I issue Humiliating Public Reminders to myself (oh dear!), Aris,
> Murphy, 天火狐, Gaelan, Ienpw III, omd, Bayushi, nichdel, G, Cuddlebeam,
> ATMunn and ProofTechnique.
>
> I also would like to use this platform to unofficially remind all you
> fools to donate to the Community Chest.
>
> From V.J. Rada
>

Re: OFF: Re: BUS: [ADoP] Election Time Extension

[Alexis Hunt]

On Thu, Oct 5, 2017, 03:04 VJ Rada,  wrote:

> I don't think either your vote here or Gaelan's vote worked. According
> to rule 955 as interpreted by Alexis's most recent CFJ, in this
> context "the valid votes are ordered lists of options". PRESENT is not
> an option in instant run-off votes as previously interpreted:
> therefore PRESENT votes are not valid. I'm not sure Gaelan's funny
> business works either. You guys need to list players or do nothing at
> all.
>
> Accordingly I change my Assessor vote to G.
>

As do I.

>

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: Re: BUS: [ADoP] Election Time Extension

[VJ Rada]

Whoops fair cop, yup. I retract my most recent CFJ.

Sorry Trigon.

On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 5:31 PM, Aris Merchant
 wrote:
> The same rule makes PRESENT an option later on. In fact, that clause
> explicitly overrides the previous one:
>
>
> "The previous notwithstanding:
> ...
>   - PRESENT is always a valid vote, with no effect on the outcome
> except counting towards quorum."
>
>
> -Aris
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 12:04 AM VJ Rada  wrote:
>>
>> I don't think either your vote here or Gaelan's vote worked. According
>> to rule 955 as interpreted by Alexis's most recent CFJ, in this
>> context "the valid votes are ordered lists of options". PRESENT is not
>> an option in instant run-off votes as previously interpreted:
>> therefore PRESENT votes are not valid. I'm not sure Gaelan's funny
>> business works either. You guys need to list players or do nothing at
>> all.
>>
>>
>> Accordingly I change my Assessor vote to G.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 4:52 PM, Rubin Stacy 
>> wrote:
>> > In order to clear up any and all confusion, I retract my vote for
>> > Arbitor
>> > and replace it with a PRESENT vote.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Trigon
>> > --
>> >
>> > On Oct 5, 2017 12:39 AM, "VJ Rada"  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Addendum: ENDORSE votes not being votes apparently, I also publically
>> >> shane Quazie, Trigon and Alexis,
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 4:12 PM, VJ Rada  wrote:
>> >> > I vote Alexis in the first election and PRESENT in the second.
>> >> >
>> >> > On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 4:11 PM, VJ Rada  wrote:
>> >> >> On the 27th, I initiated elections for Tailor and Assessor. I had
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> quorum at 2.0 but it was actually 8.0, I was right the first time.
>> >> >> The
>> >> >> incorrect statement changed nothing. Therefore, the election is
>> >> >> extended by another 7 days. The votes currently stand at this:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> ===Tailor===
>> >> >> Alexis: Alexis
>> >> >> Quazie: Endorse G unless that would lead to a vote for Quazie
>> >> >> Trigon: Alexis
>> >> >> PSS: {Alexis, PSS}
>> >> >> o. If Alexis votes, endorse Alexis.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> ===Assessor===
>> >> >> Alexis: Endorse G.
>> >> >> Quazie: Endorse G unless that would lead to a vote for Quazie
>> >> >> Trigon: Endorse G.
>> >> >> PSS: {PSS, G}
>> >> >> o.: The first player to unconditionally vote themselves (that is
>> >> >> currently PSS)
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I issue Humiliating Public Reminders to myself (oh dear!), Aris,
>> >> >> Murphy, 天火狐, Gaelan, Ienpw III, omd, Bayushi, nichdel, G,
>> >> >> Cuddlebeam,
>> >> >> ATMunn and ProofTechnique.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I also would like to use this platform to unofficially remind all
>> >> >> you
>> >> >> fools to donate to the Community Chest.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> From V.J. Rada
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > From V.J. Rada
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> From V.J. Rada
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> From V.J. Rada



-- 
>From V.J. Rada

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: Re: BUS: [ADoP] Election Time Extension

[Rubin Stacy]

PF

--
Trigon
--

On Oct 5, 2017 1:11 AM, "Rubin Stacy"  wrote:

> Fine. Then let my vote be retracted and replaced with {PSS, G.}. Does that
> work?
>
> --
> Trigon
> --
>
> On Oct 5, 2017 1:04 AM, "VJ Rada"  wrote:
>
>> I don't think either your vote here or Gaelan's vote worked. According
>> to rule 955 as interpreted by Alexis's most recent CFJ, in this
>> context "the valid votes are ordered lists of options". PRESENT is not
>> an option in instant run-off votes as previously interpreted:
>> therefore PRESENT votes are not valid. I'm not sure Gaelan's funny
>> business works either. You guys need to list players or do nothing at
>> all.
>>
>> Accordingly I change my Assessor vote to G.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 4:52 PM, Rubin Stacy 
>> wrote:
>> > In order to clear up any and all confusion, I retract my vote for
>> Arbitor
>> > and replace it with a PRESENT vote.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Trigon
>> > --
>> >
>> > On Oct 5, 2017 12:39 AM, "VJ Rada"  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Addendum: ENDORSE votes not being votes apparently, I also publically
>> >> shane Quazie, Trigon and Alexis,
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 4:12 PM, VJ Rada  wrote:
>> >> > I vote Alexis in the first election and PRESENT in the second.
>> >> >
>> >> > On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 4:11 PM, VJ Rada  wrote:
>> >> >> On the 27th, I initiated elections for Tailor and Assessor. I had
>> the
>> >> >> quorum at 2.0 but it was actually 8.0, I was right the first time.
>> The
>> >> >> incorrect statement changed nothing. Therefore, the election is
>> >> >> extended by another 7 days. The votes currently stand at this:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> ===Tailor===
>> >> >> Alexis: Alexis
>> >> >> Quazie: Endorse G unless that would lead to a vote for Quazie
>> >> >> Trigon: Alexis
>> >> >> PSS: {Alexis, PSS}
>> >> >> o. If Alexis votes, endorse Alexis.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> ===Assessor===
>> >> >> Alexis: Endorse G.
>> >> >> Quazie: Endorse G unless that would lead to a vote for Quazie
>> >> >> Trigon: Endorse G.
>> >> >> PSS: {PSS, G}
>> >> >> o.: The first player to unconditionally vote themselves (that is
>> >> >> currently PSS)
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I issue Humiliating Public Reminders to myself (oh dear!), Aris,
>> >> >> Murphy, 天火狐, Gaelan, Ienpw III, omd, Bayushi, nichdel, G,
>> Cuddlebeam,
>> >> >> ATMunn and ProofTechnique.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I also would like to use this platform to unofficially remind all
>> you
>> >> >> fools to donate to the Community Chest.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> From V.J. Rada
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > From V.J. Rada
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> From V.J. Rada
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> From V.J. Rada
>>
>

Re: OFF: Re: BUS: [ADoP] Election Time Extension

[VJ Rada]

I don't think either your vote here or Gaelan's vote worked. According
to rule 955 as interpreted by Alexis's most recent CFJ, in this
context "the valid votes are ordered lists of options". PRESENT is not
an option in instant run-off votes as previously interpreted:
therefore PRESENT votes are not valid. I'm not sure Gaelan's funny
business works either. You guys need to list players or do nothing at
all.

Accordingly I change my Assessor vote to G.



On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 4:52 PM, Rubin Stacy  wrote:
> In order to clear up any and all confusion, I retract my vote for Arbitor
> and replace it with a PRESENT vote.
>
> --
> Trigon
> --
>
> On Oct 5, 2017 12:39 AM, "VJ Rada"  wrote:
>>
>> Addendum: ENDORSE votes not being votes apparently, I also publically
>> shane Quazie, Trigon and Alexis,
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 4:12 PM, VJ Rada  wrote:
>> > I vote Alexis in the first election and PRESENT in the second.
>> >
>> > On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 4:11 PM, VJ Rada  wrote:
>> >> On the 27th, I initiated elections for Tailor and Assessor. I had the
>> >> quorum at 2.0 but it was actually 8.0, I was right the first time. The
>> >> incorrect statement changed nothing. Therefore, the election is
>> >> extended by another 7 days. The votes currently stand at this:
>> >>
>> >> ===Tailor===
>> >> Alexis: Alexis
>> >> Quazie: Endorse G unless that would lead to a vote for Quazie
>> >> Trigon: Alexis
>> >> PSS: {Alexis, PSS}
>> >> o. If Alexis votes, endorse Alexis.
>> >>
>> >> ===Assessor===
>> >> Alexis: Endorse G.
>> >> Quazie: Endorse G unless that would lead to a vote for Quazie
>> >> Trigon: Endorse G.
>> >> PSS: {PSS, G}
>> >> o.: The first player to unconditionally vote themselves (that is
>> >> currently PSS)
>> >>
>> >> I issue Humiliating Public Reminders to myself (oh dear!), Aris,
>> >> Murphy, 天火狐, Gaelan, Ienpw III, omd, Bayushi, nichdel, G, Cuddlebeam,
>> >> ATMunn and ProofTechnique.
>> >>
>> >> I also would like to use this platform to unofficially remind all you
>> >> fools to donate to the Community Chest.
>> >>
>> >> From V.J. Rada
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > From V.J. Rada
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> From V.J. Rada



-- 
>From V.J. Rada

Re: OFF: Re: BUS: [ADoP] Election Time Extension

[Gaelan Steele]

I conditionally vote for Assessor as follows: {Gaelan, PSS} followed by {all 
players nichdel votes for, in the order in which e votes for them, excluding 
Gaelan and PSS}

Gaelan

> On Oct 4, 2017, at 11:41 PM, VJ Rada  wrote:
> 
> I shame them, rather than shaning them. And what I meant was I issue
> them Humiliating Public Reminders.
> 
> I also clarify that I vote Alexis in the Tailor election and PRESENT
> for Assessor.
> 
> On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 4:39 PM, VJ Rada  wrote:
>> Addendum: ENDORSE votes not being votes apparently, I also publically
>> shane Quazie, Trigon and Alexis,
>> 
>> On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 4:12 PM, VJ Rada  wrote:
>>> I vote Alexis in the first election and PRESENT in the second.
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 4:11 PM, VJ Rada  wrote:
 On the 27th, I initiated elections for Tailor and Assessor. I had the
 quorum at 2.0 but it was actually 8.0, I was right the first time. The
 incorrect statement changed nothing. Therefore, the election is
 extended by another 7 days. The votes currently stand at this:
 
 ===Tailor===
 Alexis: Alexis
 Quazie: Endorse G unless that would lead to a vote for Quazie
 Trigon: Alexis
 PSS: {Alexis, PSS}
 o. If Alexis votes, endorse Alexis.
 
 ===Assessor===
 Alexis: Endorse G.
 Quazie: Endorse G unless that would lead to a vote for Quazie
 Trigon: Endorse G.
 PSS: {PSS, G}
 o.: The first player to unconditionally vote themselves (that is currently 
 PSS)
 
 I issue Humiliating Public Reminders to myself (oh dear!), Aris,
 Murphy, 天火狐, Gaelan, Ienpw III, omd, Bayushi, nichdel, G, Cuddlebeam,
 ATMunn and ProofTechnique.
 
 I also would like to use this platform to unofficially remind all you
 fools to donate to the Community Chest.
 
 From V.J. Rada
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> From V.J. Rada
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> From V.J. Rada
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> From V.J. Rada

Re: OFF: Re: BUS: [ADoP] Election Time Extension

[Rubin Stacy]

In order to clear up any and all confusion, I retract my vote for Arbitor
and replace it with a PRESENT vote.

--
Trigon
--

On Oct 5, 2017 12:39 AM, "VJ Rada"  wrote:

> Addendum: ENDORSE votes not being votes apparently, I also publically
> shane Quazie, Trigon and Alexis,
>
> On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 4:12 PM, VJ Rada  wrote:
> > I vote Alexis in the first election and PRESENT in the second.
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 4:11 PM, VJ Rada  wrote:
> >> On the 27th, I initiated elections for Tailor and Assessor. I had the
> >> quorum at 2.0 but it was actually 8.0, I was right the first time. The
> >> incorrect statement changed nothing. Therefore, the election is
> >> extended by another 7 days. The votes currently stand at this:
> >>
> >> ===Tailor===
> >> Alexis: Alexis
> >> Quazie: Endorse G unless that would lead to a vote for Quazie
> >> Trigon: Alexis
> >> PSS: {Alexis, PSS}
> >> o. If Alexis votes, endorse Alexis.
> >>
> >> ===Assessor===
> >> Alexis: Endorse G.
> >> Quazie: Endorse G unless that would lead to a vote for Quazie
> >> Trigon: Endorse G.
> >> PSS: {PSS, G}
> >> o.: The first player to unconditionally vote themselves (that is
> currently PSS)
> >>
> >> I issue Humiliating Public Reminders to myself (oh dear!), Aris,
> >> Murphy, 天火狐, Gaelan, Ienpw III, omd, Bayushi, nichdel, G, Cuddlebeam,
> >> ATMunn and ProofTechnique.
> >>
> >> I also would like to use this platform to unofficially remind all you
> >> fools to donate to the Community Chest.
> >>
> >> From V.J. Rada
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > From V.J. Rada
>
>
>
> --
> From V.J. Rada
>

Re: OFF: Re: BUS: [ADoP] Election Time Extension

[VJ Rada]

I also issue such a reminder to o. for eir conditional Tailor vote.

On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 4:41 PM, VJ Rada  wrote:
> I shame them, rather than shaning them. And what I meant was I issue
> them Humiliating Public Reminders.
>
> I also clarify that I vote Alexis in the Tailor election and PRESENT
> for Assessor.
>
> On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 4:39 PM, VJ Rada  wrote:
>> Addendum: ENDORSE votes not being votes apparently, I also publically
>> shane Quazie, Trigon and Alexis,
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 4:12 PM, VJ Rada  wrote:
>>> I vote Alexis in the first election and PRESENT in the second.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 4:11 PM, VJ Rada  wrote:
 On the 27th, I initiated elections for Tailor and Assessor. I had the
 quorum at 2.0 but it was actually 8.0, I was right the first time. The
 incorrect statement changed nothing. Therefore, the election is
 extended by another 7 days. The votes currently stand at this:

 ===Tailor===
 Alexis: Alexis
 Quazie: Endorse G unless that would lead to a vote for Quazie
 Trigon: Alexis
 PSS: {Alexis, PSS}
 o. If Alexis votes, endorse Alexis.

 ===Assessor===
 Alexis: Endorse G.
 Quazie: Endorse G unless that would lead to a vote for Quazie
 Trigon: Endorse G.
 PSS: {PSS, G}
 o.: The first player to unconditionally vote themselves (that is currently 
 PSS)

 I issue Humiliating Public Reminders to myself (oh dear!), Aris,
 Murphy, 天火狐, Gaelan, Ienpw III, omd, Bayushi, nichdel, G, Cuddlebeam,
 ATMunn and ProofTechnique.

 I also would like to use this platform to unofficially remind all you
 fools to donate to the Community Chest.

 From V.J. Rada
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> From V.J. Rada
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> From V.J. Rada
>
>
>
> --
> From V.J. Rada



-- 
>From V.J. Rada

Re: OFF: Re: BUS: [ADoP] Election Time Extension

[VJ Rada]

I shame them, rather than shaning them. And what I meant was I issue
them Humiliating Public Reminders.

I also clarify that I vote Alexis in the Tailor election and PRESENT
for Assessor.

On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 4:39 PM, VJ Rada  wrote:
> Addendum: ENDORSE votes not being votes apparently, I also publically
> shane Quazie, Trigon and Alexis,
>
> On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 4:12 PM, VJ Rada  wrote:
>> I vote Alexis in the first election and PRESENT in the second.
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 4:11 PM, VJ Rada  wrote:
>>> On the 27th, I initiated elections for Tailor and Assessor. I had the
>>> quorum at 2.0 but it was actually 8.0, I was right the first time. The
>>> incorrect statement changed nothing. Therefore, the election is
>>> extended by another 7 days. The votes currently stand at this:
>>>
>>> ===Tailor===
>>> Alexis: Alexis
>>> Quazie: Endorse G unless that would lead to a vote for Quazie
>>> Trigon: Alexis
>>> PSS: {Alexis, PSS}
>>> o. If Alexis votes, endorse Alexis.
>>>
>>> ===Assessor===
>>> Alexis: Endorse G.
>>> Quazie: Endorse G unless that would lead to a vote for Quazie
>>> Trigon: Endorse G.
>>> PSS: {PSS, G}
>>> o.: The first player to unconditionally vote themselves (that is currently 
>>> PSS)
>>>
>>> I issue Humiliating Public Reminders to myself (oh dear!), Aris,
>>> Murphy, 天火狐, Gaelan, Ienpw III, omd, Bayushi, nichdel, G, Cuddlebeam,
>>> ATMunn and ProofTechnique.
>>>
>>> I also would like to use this platform to unofficially remind all you
>>> fools to donate to the Community Chest.
>>>
>>> From V.J. Rada
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> From V.J. Rada
>
>
>
> --
> From V.J. Rada



-- 
>From V.J. Rada

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [ADoP] Election Time Extension

[VJ Rada]

Ttttpf

On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 4:12 PM, VJ Rada  wrote:
> I vote Alexis in the first election and PRESENT in the second.
>
> On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 4:11 PM, VJ Rada  wrote:
>> On the 27th, I initiated elections for Tailor and Assessor. I had the
>> quorum at 2.0 but it was actually 8.0, I was right the first time. The
>> incorrect statement changed nothing. Therefore, the election is
>> extended by another 7 days. The votes currently stand at this:
>>
>> ===Tailor===
>> Alexis: Alexis
>> Quazie: Endorse G unless that would lead to a vote for Quazie
>> Trigon: Alexis
>> PSS: {Alexis, PSS}
>> o. If Alexis votes, endorse Alexis.
>>
>> ===Assessor===
>> Alexis: Endorse G.
>> Quazie: Endorse G unless that would lead to a vote for Quazie
>> Trigon: Endorse G.
>> PSS: {PSS, G}
>> o.: The first player to unconditionally vote themselves (that is currently 
>> PSS)
>>
>> I issue Humiliating Public Reminders to myself (oh dear!), Aris,
>> Murphy, 天火狐, Gaelan, Ienpw III, omd, Bayushi, nichdel, G, Cuddlebeam,
>> ATMunn and ProofTechnique.
>>
>> I also would like to use this platform to unofficially remind all you
>> fools to donate to the Community Chest.
>>
>> From V.J. Rada
>
>
>
> --
> From V.J. Rada



-- 
>From V.J. Rada

BUS: [ADoP] Election Time Extension

[VJ Rada]

On the 27th, I initiated elections for Tailor and Assessor. I had the
quorum at 2.0 but it was actually 8.0, I was right the first time. The
incorrect statement changed nothing. Therefore, the election is
extended by another 7 days. The votes currently stand at this:

===Tailor===
Alexis: Alexis
Quazie: Endorse G unless that would lead to a vote for Quazie
Trigon: Alexis
PSS: {Alexis, PSS}
o. If Alexis votes, endorse Alexis.

===Assessor===
Alexis: Endorse G.
Quazie: Endorse G unless that would lead to a vote for Quazie
Trigon: Endorse G.
PSS: {PSS, G}
o.: The first player to unconditionally vote themselves (that is currently PSS)

I issue Humiliating Public Reminders to myself (oh dear!), Aris,
Murphy, 天火狐, Gaelan, Ienpw III, omd, Bayushi, nichdel, G, Cuddlebeam,
ATMunn and ProofTechnique.

I also would like to use this platform to unofficially remind all you
fools to donate to the Community Chest.

>From V.J. Rada