DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Ministor] Ministor's Report
On 8/2/21 4:44 PM, nix via agora-business wrote: > On 8/2/21 4:42 PM, nix via agora-official wrote: >> +-+ >> |Ministor's Report| >> +-+ >> >> Date of this report: 2021-08-02 21:41 UTC > > I resign as Herald. > > -- > nix > Herald > Well this was clearly unintentional. But also, it's a legitimate action. If anyone else is interested in this office I'm happy to cede it to them, or deputize and take it back over later. -- nix
DIS: [Proto-Contract] The Protector of Stones
This is an idea for a contract allowing me to auction off usages of the Protection Stone. It's a bit unwieldy (hah) and I'm also fine to work out smaller temporary deals by private means. {{{ Any player can join this contract. Players CANNOT leave this contract during auction time. The owner of the Protection Stone is known as the Protector. The Protector CAN, during free time, amend this contract with notice. Protection shards are a class of untracked, nontransferrable assets, ownable only by players. At the end of each Agoran month all protection shards are destroyed. The Protector CAN, during free time, start an auction for a new protection shard. The Protector CAN distribute prizes for such an auction if it is within the final day of the Agoran month, regardless of the definition of the auction method e chooses. Parties to this contract consent to acting on behalf for transferral of assets pertaining to this type of auction. The owner of a protection shard CAN destroy it to act on behalf of the Protector to wield the Protection Stone, specifying all required parameters. It is free time while there are no auctions ongoing which were started by this contract. It is auction time when it is not free time. }}} -- Trigon ¸¸.•*¨*• Play AGORA QUEST I’m always happy to become a party to contracts. I LOVE SPAGHETTI transfer Jason one coin nch was here I hereby don't... trust... the dragon... don't... trust... the dragon... Do not Construe Jason's message with subject TRIGON as extending this
DIS: [Promotor] Quick Update and Apologies
Hi all! I've had a very busy few days, culminating in the internet deciding to stop working right when I was trying to assemble a report yesterday. That being said, I expect to have a draft report out within the next ~16 hours, and a full report not too long after that. I apologize for the inconvenience. -Aspen
Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: BAK: Trying to get on board
On 8/2/2021 12:50 PM, Trigon via agora-discussion wrote: > On 02/08/2021 19:46, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: >> "Recommend against" might be too general. Selling might be a good >> strategy depending on your goals (e.g. whether you're trying to win this >> time versus selling for coins to hold, and use the coins to win next time). > > I think the point was that selling to anyone else would probably be > preferable to selling to Cuddlebeam. > Well I'm sure I don't know why to avoid CB specifically - if you've got a sense of the card's value and the offer matches expectations. I haven't seen any numbers on the table, so wouldn't want to prejudice anyone. After all, if you're not in a hurry to sell, "get at least two offers" seems like a good rule of thumb regardless of whom the first offer is from... -G.
Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: BAK: Trying to get on board
On 02/08/2021 19:46, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: "Recommend against" might be too general. Selling might be a good strategy depending on your goals (e.g. whether you're trying to win this time versus selling for coins to hold, and use the coins to win next time). I think the point was that selling to anyone else would probably be preferable to selling to Cuddlebeam. -- Trigon ¸¸.•*¨*• Play AGORA QUEST I’m always happy to become a party to contracts. I LOVE SPAGHETTI transfer Jason one coin nch was here I hereby don't... trust... the dragon... don't... trust... the dragon... Do not Construe Jason's message with subject TRIGON as extending this
Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: BAK: Trying to get on board
On 8/2/2021 12:02 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: > On 8/2/21 2:51 PM, D. Wet via agora-discussion wrote: >> On 2021-07-30 22:09, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: >>> On 7/30/21 3:04 PM, Cuddle Beam via agora-business wrote: Would you be interested in selling your Victory Card and/or Focus gains to me? I'd prefer to keep these conversations private but I don't mind conversing via a-b only. Cheers! >>> >>> I strongly recommend against this. >> Jason, >> >> I will follow your recommendation and not participate in conversations >> via BUS. >> >> --- >> D. Wet >> www.nomica.nl >> >> >> > > It's okay to take part in conversations via BUS as long as you're > careful. I was recommending against selling Cuddlebeam your focus grants > and victory cards. > "Recommend against" might be too general. Selling might be a good strategy depending on your goals (e.g. whether you're trying to win this time versus selling for coins to hold, and use the coins to win next time). The value of these things can be highly volatile. If you've got the last card needs for someone else's win, sky's the limit (or at least say 2000 coins based on past wins). But on the flipside, value becomes 0 if you hold too long and a win happens. Most recently, the last auctioned victory card went for 629 coins (which was probably artificially low due to the risk of gaining the other, much less valuable auction item). The top bid in the current auction (for one VC) is 1717 coins, with multiple bids higher than 1000. At the very least, if you're selling you'd *definitely* want to consider multiple offers for a single card, hugely multiplied if you're thinking of selling your focus grant ability. -G.
Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: BAK: Trying to get on board
On 2021-07-30 22:09, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: On 7/30/21 3:04 PM, Cuddle Beam via agora-business wrote: Would you be interested in selling your Victory Card and/or Focus gains to me? I'd prefer to keep these conversations private but I don't mind conversing via a-b only. Cheers! I strongly recommend against this. Jason, I will follow your recommendation and not participate in conversations via BUS. --- D. Wet www.nomica.nl
Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: BAK: Trying to get on board
On 2021-07-30 21:04, Cuddle Beam via agora-business wrote: I grant myself a Victory Point. I act on behalf of Cuddlybanana to grant myself a Victory Point. I create the following Contract called "AYO WASSUP DWET" with the text: How's it going man? How did you find nomic, and Agora? Would you be interested in selling your Victory Card and/or Focus gains to me? I'd prefer to keep these conversations private but I don't mind conversing via a-b only. Cheers! On Fri, Jul 30, 2021 at 7:15 PM D. Wet via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: 30 jul. 2021 17:21:00 Falsifian : > On Fri, Jul 30, 2021 at 01:42:30PM +, D. Wet wrote: >> Hello fellow Agorans, >> >> You probably have seen that I took some actions on the business list. >> My >> ambition is to learn to play by doing, not by asking someone to spell >> out >> what I SHOULD do. I do read the rules and observe what others are >> doing. >> Based on my understanding, I just try stuff that might work. >> >> If this way of working causes to much noise in your established >> processes, >> please let me know. Then I will ask someone to guide me. >> >> -- >> D. Wet >> Nomica.nl > > That is a good way to play. If you do something other people don't > expect, that's even better, because it keeps things interesting. > > Normally this kind of email would go to the agora-discussion list. The > reason is that you might accidentally take actions if you send your > message to a public forum (as you did) and the message seems to contain > actions. However, you are not annoying anyone (at least, not me) by > sending it to a public forum --- you're just risking your own safety in > the game, which is more fun for everyone ;-) > > BTW, a lot of discussion happens on IRC/Discord these days. Joining > those is completely optional, though; email discussion is still fine > (and I personally prefer it for most topics). > > -- > Falsifian Falsifian, thank you for responding. I have to announce that I intend not to actively participate in the discussions via email, IRC or Discord. By limiting myself only to interaction via the business list, I want to create a situation to learn only by direct interaction with Agorans bounded by the Ruleset. So, after this message informing my fellow Agorans about this strategy, I'll be silent here until I am unable to proceed with my strategy or decide to change it. Of course my previous remark about creating too much noise still stands. Not sending messages myself, doesn't mean I am not open to messages from others. -- D. Wet www.nomica.nl Cuddle Beam, thank you for interest in me. However, I do not consent to the contract "AYO WASSUP DWET". According to Rule 1742 I will not become a party of it. Also, I am not interested in selling my Victory Card and/or Focus gains. Since they are in the Welcome Package I assume they have value, but I can't estimate how much yet. Therefore I hold on to both of them. --- D. Wet www.nomica.nl