Re: DIS: [proto] Definitely not a ploy to get more pendants

2020-07-06 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 7/6/20 9:33 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 6:32 PM Jason Cobb via agora-discussion <
> agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>
>> On 7/6/20 9:28 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote:
>>> On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 6:27 PM Jason Cobb via agora-discussion <
>>> agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>>>
 On 7/6/20 9:20 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion
 wrote:
> On 7/6/20 8:37 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote:
>> It was suggested to make card grants once per office per month rather
>> than once per officer per month. This is a proto to make that change,
>> in
>> order to solicit feedback on both the wording and the idea in general:
> What if the office changes hands? I think we should avoid scams, but if
> someone hasn't yet given a card from a particular office in a month, I
> think e should be able to even if a previous holder had.
>
 I think my wording handles that. If Alice is Comptrollor and awards a
 card, and then, later in the same month, Bob becomes Comptrollor, it is
 true that Bob "has not done so in reference to [Comptrollor] in the
 current Agoran month".
>>> I have a severe headache, so I might be confusing things. That being
>> said "It
>>> was suggested to make card grants once per office per month rather than
>>> once per officer per month" seems like the opposite of what you're doing?
>>> Did you flip it?
>>>
>>> -Aris
>>
>> I don't think so? Right now it's once per person with an office per
>> month ("An officer CAN, once per month..."), and I'm suggesting to make
>> it once per office per month.
>>
>> Good luck with your headache :(.
>
> Oh, okay. You're making it once per (officer, office) pair per month,
> basically?
>
> Also, thanks.
>
> -Aris


Yep, that's the idea.

-- 
Jason Cobb



Re: DIS: [proto] Definitely not a ploy to get more pendants

2020-07-06 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 6:32 PM Jason Cobb via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:

> On 7/6/20 9:28 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote:
> > On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 6:27 PM Jason Cobb via agora-discussion <
> > agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> >
> >> On 7/6/20 9:20 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion
> >> wrote:
> >>> On 7/6/20 8:37 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote:
>  It was suggested to make card grants once per office per month rather
>  than once per officer per month. This is a proto to make that change,
> in
>  order to solicit feedback on both the wording and the idea in general:
> >>> What if the office changes hands? I think we should avoid scams, but if
> >>> someone hasn't yet given a card from a particular office in a month, I
> >>> think e should be able to even if a previous holder had.
> >>>
> >> I think my wording handles that. If Alice is Comptrollor and awards a
> >> card, and then, later in the same month, Bob becomes Comptrollor, it is
> >> true that Bob "has not done so in reference to [Comptrollor] in the
> >> current Agoran month".
> >
> > I have a severe headache, so I might be confusing things. That being
> said "It
> > was suggested to make card grants once per office per month rather than
> > once per officer per month" seems like the opposite of what you're doing?
> > Did you flip it?
> >
> > -Aris
>
>
> I don't think so? Right now it's once per person with an office per
> month ("An officer CAN, once per month..."), and I'm suggesting to make
> it once per office per month.
>
> Good luck with your headache :(.


Oh, okay. You're making it once per (officer, office) pair per month,
basically?

Also, thanks.

-Aris


Re: DIS: [proto] Definitely not a ploy to get more pendants

2020-07-06 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 7/6/20 9:28 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 6:27 PM Jason Cobb via agora-discussion <
> agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>
>> On 7/6/20 9:20 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion
>> wrote:
>>> On 7/6/20 8:37 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote:
 It was suggested to make card grants once per office per month rather
 than once per officer per month. This is a proto to make that change, in
 order to solicit feedback on both the wording and the idea in general:
>>> What if the office changes hands? I think we should avoid scams, but if
>>> someone hasn't yet given a card from a particular office in a month, I
>>> think e should be able to even if a previous holder had.
>>>
>> I think my wording handles that. If Alice is Comptrollor and awards a
>> card, and then, later in the same month, Bob becomes Comptrollor, it is
>> true that Bob "has not done so in reference to [Comptrollor] in the
>> current Agoran month".
>
> I have a severe headache, so I might be confusing things. That being said "It
> was suggested to make card grants once per office per month rather than
> once per officer per month" seems like the opposite of what you're doing?
> Did you flip it?
>
> -Aris


I don't think so? Right now it's once per person with an office per
month ("An officer CAN, once per month..."), and I'm suggesting to make
it once per office per month.

Good luck with your headache :(.

-- 
Jason Cobb



Re: DIS: [proto] Definitely not a ploy to get more pendants

2020-07-06 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 6:27 PM Jason Cobb via agora-discussion <
agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:

> On 7/6/20 9:20 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion
> wrote:
> > On 7/6/20 8:37 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote:
> >> It was suggested to make card grants once per office per month rather
> >> than once per officer per month. This is a proto to make that change, in
> >> order to solicit feedback on both the wording and the idea in general:
> > What if the office changes hands? I think we should avoid scams, but if
> > someone hasn't yet given a card from a particular office in a month, I
> > think e should be able to even if a previous holder had.
> >
>
> I think my wording handles that. If Alice is Comptrollor and awards a
> card, and then, later in the same month, Bob becomes Comptrollor, it is
> true that Bob "has not done so in reference to [Comptrollor] in the
> current Agoran month".


I have a severe headache, so I might be confusing things. That being said "It
was suggested to make card grants once per office per month rather than
once per officer per month" seems like the opposite of what you're doing?
Did you flip it?

-Aris


Re: DIS: [proto] Definitely not a ploy to get more pendants

2020-07-06 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 7/6/20 9:20 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion
wrote:
> On 7/6/20 8:37 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote:
>> It was suggested to make card grants once per office per month rather
>> than once per officer per month. This is a proto to make that change, in
>> order to solicit feedback on both the wording and the idea in general:
> What if the office changes hands? I think we should avoid scams, but if
> someone hasn't yet given a card from a particular office in a month, I
> think e should be able to even if a previous holder had.
>

I think my wording handles that. If Alice is Comptrollor and awards a
card, and then, later in the same month, Bob becomes Comptrollor, it is
true that Bob "has not done so in reference to [Comptrollor] in the
current Agoran month".

-- 
Jason Cobb



Re: DIS: [proto] Definitely not a ploy to get more pendants

2020-07-06 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion
On 7/6/20 8:37 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote:
> It was suggested to make card grants once per office per month rather
> than once per officer per month. This is a proto to make that change, in
> order to solicit feedback on both the wording and the idea in general:

What if the office changes hands? I think we should avoid scams, but if
someone hasn't yet given a card from a particular office in a month, I
think e should be able to even if a previous holder had.

> 
> {
> 
> Amend Rule 2624 (Card Administration) by replacing the final paragraph
> (including the list) with the following:
> 
> {
> 
> The officeholder of an office CAN by announcement grant another player a
> specified type of card, specifying that office, under the following
> conditions:
> 
> * e has not done so in reference to that office in the current Agoran month,
> 
> * that office's interests includes the card's associated ministry,
> 
> * the player receiving the card does not hold an office with the card's
> associated ministry in its interests, and
> 
> * the player receiving the card is not a zombie.
> 
> }
> 
> }
> 


-- 

Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate
Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth


DIS: [proto] Definitely not a ploy to get more pendants

2020-07-06 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
It was suggested to make card grants once per office per month rather
than once per officer per month. This is a proto to make that change, in
order to solicit feedback on both the wording and the idea in general:

{

Amend Rule 2624 (Card Administration) by replacing the final paragraph
(including the list) with the following:

{

The officeholder of an office CAN by announcement grant another player a
specified type of card, specifying that office, under the following
conditions:

* e has not done so in reference to that office in the current Agoran month,

* that office's interests includes the card's associated ministry,

* the player receiving the card does not hold an office with the card's
associated ministry in its interests, and

* the player receiving the card is not a zombie.

}

}

-- 
Jason Cobb