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On 4/24/23 20:18, Forest Sweeney via agora-business wrote: > I support this intent, as the PM recently submitted a manifesto to blot > inactive players! For shame! Et tu 4st? -- nix Prime Minister, Herald
DIS: Re: BUS: MOTION OF NO CONFIDENCE
On Thu, Jul 7, 2022 at 9:02 PM Jason Cobb via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > I intend, with Agoran consent, to cause the office of Prime Minister to > become vacant. > Just in case, as the office is currently vacant, I object.
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On Tue, Jun 23, 2020, 7:22 PM Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion wrote: > On 6/23/20 7:21 PM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: > > On 6/23/20 6:20 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: > >> On Tue, Jun 23, 2020, 7:10 PM nch via agora-discussion < > >> agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > >> > >>> On 6/23/20 5:38 PM, James Cook via agora-business wrote: > On Tue, 23 Jun 2020 at 14:04, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion > wrote: > > On 6/23/20 10:03 AM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: > >> The PM doesn't have increased voting strength. And I've already > pledged > >> to not blot someone else to decrease their strength. Jason plans to > try > >> to install a member of Dragon Corp as PM, then use that to help them > >>> win > >> and install a Speaker. > > You do, because ministries. > That's a good point. I support Jason's intent to cause the office of > Prime Minister to become vacant, and I withdraw my objection. > > (Has anyone done the math? Do R. Lee and nch really have a hope of > voting down the proposal?) > > - Falsifian > >>> I advise people to use the impeachment method instead of this method so > >>> we can have an election for the office instead of having Jason > >>> immediately deputize for it when e resolves the intent. > >>> > >>> -- > >>> nch > >>> Prime Minister, Webmastor, NAX Exchange Manager > >>> > >> > >> If I acquire the office of Prime Minister, I pledge to exercise no > cabinet > >> orders and to initiate an election within 7 days. > >> > > Pledge to also not install a speaker. > > > > Also, include issuing emergency regulations. > > -- > > Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate > Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth > I won't pledge not to appoint a speaker, as that is literally the only way I could become PM. I pledge to issue no intents pertaining to emergency regulations if I become Prime Minister. >
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On 6/23/20 7:21 PM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: > On 6/23/20 6:20 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: >> On Tue, Jun 23, 2020, 7:10 PM nch via agora-discussion < >> agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: >> >>> On 6/23/20 5:38 PM, James Cook via agora-business wrote: On Tue, 23 Jun 2020 at 14:04, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: > On 6/23/20 10:03 AM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: >> The PM doesn't have increased voting strength. And I've already pledged >> to not blot someone else to decrease their strength. Jason plans to try >> to install a member of Dragon Corp as PM, then use that to help them >>> win >> and install a Speaker. > You do, because ministries. That's a good point. I support Jason's intent to cause the office of Prime Minister to become vacant, and I withdraw my objection. (Has anyone done the math? Do R. Lee and nch really have a hope of voting down the proposal?) - Falsifian >>> I advise people to use the impeachment method instead of this method so >>> we can have an election for the office instead of having Jason >>> immediately deputize for it when e resolves the intent. >>> >>> -- >>> nch >>> Prime Minister, Webmastor, NAX Exchange Manager >>> >> >> If I acquire the office of Prime Minister, I pledge to exercise no cabinet >> orders and to initiate an election within 7 days. >> > Pledge to also not install a speaker. > Also, include issuing emergency regulations. -- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth
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On 6/23/20 6:20 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: > On Tue, Jun 23, 2020, 7:10 PM nch via agora-discussion < > agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > >> On 6/23/20 5:38 PM, James Cook via agora-business wrote: >>> On Tue, 23 Jun 2020 at 14:04, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion >>> wrote: On 6/23/20 10:03 AM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: > The PM doesn't have increased voting strength. And I've already pledged > to not blot someone else to decrease their strength. Jason plans to try > to install a member of Dragon Corp as PM, then use that to help them >> win > and install a Speaker. You do, because ministries. >>> That's a good point. I support Jason's intent to cause the office of >>> Prime Minister to become vacant, and I withdraw my objection. >>> >>> (Has anyone done the math? Do R. Lee and nch really have a hope of >>> voting down the proposal?) >>> >>> - Falsifian >> I advise people to use the impeachment method instead of this method so >> we can have an election for the office instead of having Jason >> immediately deputize for it when e resolves the intent. >> >> -- >> nch >> Prime Minister, Webmastor, NAX Exchange Manager >> > > If I acquire the office of Prime Minister, I pledge to exercise no cabinet > orders and to initiate an election within 7 days. > Pledge to also not install a speaker. -- nch Prime Minister, Webmastor, NAX Exchange Manager
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On 6/23/20 5:38 PM, James Cook via agora-business wrote: > On Tue, 23 Jun 2020 at 14:04, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion > wrote: >> On 6/23/20 10:03 AM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: >>> The PM doesn't have increased voting strength. And I've already pledged >>> to not blot someone else to decrease their strength. Jason plans to try >>> to install a member of Dragon Corp as PM, then use that to help them win >>> and install a Speaker. >> >> You do, because ministries. > That's a good point. I support Jason's intent to cause the office of > Prime Minister to become vacant, and I withdraw my objection. > > (Has anyone done the math? Do R. Lee and nch really have a hope of > voting down the proposal?) > > - Falsifian I advise people to use the impeachment method instead of this method so we can have an election for the office instead of having Jason immediately deputize for it when e resolves the intent. -- nch Prime Minister, Webmastor, NAX Exchange Manager
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On 6/23/2020 7:08 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > On 6/23/20 10:07 AM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: >> You're right, I missed that last night. Still a poor reason to uninstall >> a recently elected official I think, I'm not abusing the office. >> > > You're not abusing it, but you are clearly making advantageous use of it > to perpetrate a scam against the good people of Agora. > We can be dramatic about the role the PM has in upholding agora, or we can point to the fact that we (literally just this last week) purposefully gamified the whole thing with R2463's "shake things up" clause. Although if its the existing PM who started the shaking I'm not sure where my duties lie. (what should I know, I'm just the figurehead).
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On 6/23/20 10:10 AM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: > On 6/23/20 9:08 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion > wrote: >> On 6/23/20 10:07 AM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: >>> You're right, I missed that last night. Still a poor reason to uninstall >>> a recently elected official I think, I'm not abusing the office. >>> >> You're not abusing it, but you are clearly making advantageous use of it >> to perpetrate a scam against the good people of Agora. >> >> -- >> >> Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate >> Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth > > I literally did not know it had extra voting strength. Whether or not it was intentional doesn't change whether it is occurring. Also, to be clear, I don't mean anything personally about this, I simply thing this is a function of how the game is played. > I don't think > this a fair assessment. Also, your plan is to vacate me (for a scam > unrelated to the office) and then by yourself oppose someone that has a > larger coalition from seizing the office for personal gain. > Given that you seem to agree with my opposition, I'm not sure that I'll be doing it *by myself*. -- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth
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On 6/23/20 9:08 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion wrote: > On 6/23/20 10:07 AM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: >> You're right, I missed that last night. Still a poor reason to uninstall >> a recently elected official I think, I'm not abusing the office. >> > You're not abusing it, but you are clearly making advantageous use of it > to perpetrate a scam against the good people of Agora. > > -- > > Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate > Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth I literally did not know it had extra voting strength. I don't think this a fair assessment. Also, your plan is to vacate me (for a scam unrelated to the office) and then by yourself oppose someone that has a larger coalition from seizing the office for personal gain. -- nch Prime Minister, Webmastor, NAX Exchange Manager
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On 6/23/20 10:07 AM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: > You're right, I missed that last night. Still a poor reason to uninstall > a recently elected official I think, I'm not abusing the office. > You're not abusing it, but you are clearly making advantageous use of it to perpetrate a scam against the good people of Agora. -- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth
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On 6/23/20 9:04 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion wrote: > And if Jason does that, I'll oppose it, but right now you are PM. PM > does have increased voting strength as a result of office interests. You're right, I missed that last night. Still a poor reason to uninstall a recently elected official I think, I'm not abusing the office. -- nch Prime Minister, Webmastor, NAX Exchange Manager
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On 6/23/20 10:03 AM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: > On 6/23/20 9:00 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion > wrote: >> On 6/23/20 9:50 AM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: >>> On 6/23/20 5:22 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-business >>> wrote: On 6/22/20 10:51 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: > I intend, with Agoran consent, to cause the office of Prime Minister to > become vacant. > I support. -- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth >>> Annoyed that people are supporting this when its intention is to do >>> enable the person that started it to perform their own scams, and this >>> office has nothing to do with my scam. But just follow along with it >>> without even asking the person that started it to justify why it's >>> necessary I guess. >>> >> At least so far as my support is concerned, that is not the reasoning. I >> believe that while scams are part of our expected gameplay, they >> shouldn't be conducted by a sitting Prime Minister. I also see ways in >> which the Prime Minister could make use of eir office as part of this >> scam; most simply, through utilizing eir increased voting strength to >> prevent the patch. >> >> -- >> >> Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate >> Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth > > The PM doesn't have increased voting strength. And I've already pledged > to not blot someone else to decrease their strength. Jason plans to try > to install a member of Dragon Corp as PM, then use that to help them win > and install a Speaker. > And if Jason does that, I'll oppose it, but right now you are PM. PM does have increased voting strength as a result of office interests. -- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth
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On 6/23/20 10:03 AM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: > The PM doesn't have increased voting strength. And I've already pledged > to not blot someone else to decrease their strength. Jason plans to try > to install a member of Dragon Corp as PM, then use that to help them win > and install a Speaker. You do, because ministries. -- Jason Cobb
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On 6/23/20 9:00 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion wrote: > On 6/23/20 9:50 AM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: >> On 6/23/20 5:22 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-business >> wrote: >>> On 6/22/20 10:51 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: I intend, with Agoran consent, to cause the office of Prime Minister to become vacant. >>> I support. >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate >>> Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth >> Annoyed that people are supporting this when its intention is to do >> enable the person that started it to perform their own scams, and this >> office has nothing to do with my scam. But just follow along with it >> without even asking the person that started it to justify why it's >> necessary I guess. >> > At least so far as my support is concerned, that is not the reasoning. I > believe that while scams are part of our expected gameplay, they > shouldn't be conducted by a sitting Prime Minister. I also see ways in > which the Prime Minister could make use of eir office as part of this > scam; most simply, through utilizing eir increased voting strength to > prevent the patch. > > -- > > Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate > Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth The PM doesn't have increased voting strength. And I've already pledged to not blot someone else to decrease their strength. Jason plans to try to install a member of Dragon Corp as PM, then use that to help them win and install a Speaker. -- nch Prime Minister, Webmastor, NAX Exchange Manager
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On 6/23/20 9:50 AM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: > On 6/23/20 5:22 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-business > wrote: >> On 6/22/20 10:51 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: >>> I intend, with Agoran consent, to cause the office of Prime Minister to >>> become vacant. >>> >> I support. >> >> -- >> >> Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate >> Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth > > Annoyed that people are supporting this when its intention is to do > enable the person that started it to perform their own scams, and this > office has nothing to do with my scam. But just follow along with it > without even asking the person that started it to justify why it's > necessary I guess. > At least so far as my support is concerned, that is not the reasoning. I believe that while scams are part of our expected gameplay, they shouldn't be conducted by a sitting Prime Minister. I also see ways in which the Prime Minister could make use of eir office as part of this scam; most simply, through utilizing eir increased voting strength to prevent the patch. -- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth
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On 6/23/20 5:22 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-business wrote: > On 6/22/20 10:51 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: >> I intend, with Agoran consent, to cause the office of Prime Minister to >> become vacant. >> > I support. > > -- > > Publius Scribonius Scholasticus, Herald, Referee, Tailor, Pirate > Champion, Badge of the Great Agoran Revival, Badge of the Salted Earth Annoyed that people are supporting this when its intention is to do enable the person that started it to perform their own scams, and this office has nothing to do with my scam. But just follow along with it without even asking the person that started it to justify why it's necessary I guess. -- nch Prime Minister, Webmastor, NAX Exchange Manager
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On 6/22/20 9:51 PM, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: > I intend, with Agoran consent, to cause the office of Prime Minister to > become vacant. > > -- > Jason Cobb > Also for the record, Jason et al is trying to do this to seize PM and Speaker. R. Lee and I's scam doesn't use PM power and leaves G. as Speaker. -- nch Prime Minister, Webmastor, NAX Exchange Manager
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On 6/22/20 10:05 PM, James Cook via agora-business wrote: > On Tue, 23 Jun 2020 at 02:51, Jason Cobb via agora-business > wrote: >> I intend, with Agoran consent, to cause the office of Prime Minister to >> become vacant. > I object. nch is demonstrating behaviour we should all aspire to as > Agorans. A true leader! (Or is there some way the scam could involve > the office of PM?) > > - Falsifian There is a way, which I will refrain from using unless this intent is likely to resolve. -- nch Prime Minister, Webmastor, NAX Exchange Manager
