Re: DIS: Missing Proposal

2012-06-09 Thread Ed Murphy

Yally wrote:


Actually, this whole ordeal gave me a really good thesis idea about
alternate realities in nomic (i.e., following the wrong set of rules for
an extended period of time). Has anything been written on this topic yet?


See:  the entire history of B Nomic /ever/.  (I'm only half-joking.)


Re: DIS: Missing Proposal

2012-06-09 Thread Elliott Hird
On 9 June 2012 14:35, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote:
 See:  the entire history of B Nomic /ever/.  (I'm only half-joking.)

Half? Where's the half-joke?

Since B Nomic spent almost its entire history stuck in the first or
second era (I forget which), and they only realised it after about
five more of them, I'd say it meets Yally's criterion perfectly :)


Re: DIS: Missing Proposal

2012-06-09 Thread Elliott Hird
On 9 June 2012 06:06, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com wrote:
 So, I just realized the rules never took notice of proposal 6671, adopted on
 March 22, 2010 and affecting Rule 1367. This also means that parts of
 proposal 6717 were ineffective.

Wait, why doesn't ratification take care of this?


Re: DIS: Missing Proposal

2012-06-09 Thread Sean Hunt
On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 10:34 AM, Elliott Hird
penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com wrote:
 On 9 June 2012 06:06, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com wrote:
 So, I just realized the rules never took notice of proposal 6671, adopted on
 March 22, 2010 and affecting Rule 1367. This also means that parts of
 proposal 6717 were ineffective.

 Wait, why doesn't ratification take care of this?


Because the ruleset does not self-ratify; nor can it be ratified
without objection. It is periodically ratified by proposal.

-scshunt


Re: DIS: Missing Proposal

2012-06-09 Thread Pavitra
On 06/09/2012 06:04 PM, Sean Hunt wrote:
 On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 10:34 AM, Elliott Hird
 penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com wrote:
 On 9 June 2012 06:06, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com wrote:
 So, I just realized the rules never took notice of proposal 6671, adopted on
 March 22, 2010 and affecting Rule 1367. This also means that parts of
 proposal 6717 were ineffective.

 Wait, why doesn't ratification take care of this?

 
 Because the ruleset does not self-ratify; nor can it be ratified
 without objection. It is periodically ratified by proposal.
 
 -scshunt

That's a terrible idea. Of all the things that desperately need periodic
ratification


Re: DIS: Missing Proposal

2012-06-09 Thread Elliott Hird
On 10 June 2012 00:04, Sean Hunt scsh...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote:
 Because the ruleset does not self-ratify; nor can it be ratified
 without objection. It is periodically ratified by proposal.

Good thing we have that safeguard against errant Rulekeepors, or we
might be in trouble!


Re: DIS: Missing Proposal

2012-06-09 Thread comexk
Maybe I should just submit yearly ruleset ratification proposals.  Also, 
tomorrow I'll go search for proposals that showed up in voting results but not 
current_flr.txt,v and make sure that they're all AI fails or other issues.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 9, 2012, at 7:50 PM, Elliott Hird penguinoftheg...@googlemail.com 
wrote:

 On 10 June 2012 00:04, Sean Hunt scsh...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote:
 Because the ruleset does not self-ratify; nor can it be ratified
 without objection. It is periodically ratified by proposal.
 
 Good thing we have that safeguard against errant Rulekeepors, or we
 might be in trouble!


Re: DIS: Missing Proposal

2012-06-08 Thread omd
On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 10:06 PM, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com wrote:
 So, I just realized the rules never took notice of proposal 6671, adopted on
 March 22, 2010 and affecting Rule 1367. This also means that parts of
 proposal 6717 were ineffective.

Um...

I guess so.  Ugh.


Re: DIS: Missing Proposal

2012-06-08 Thread Aaron Goldfein
On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 1:11 AM, omd c.ome...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 10:06 PM, Aaron Goldfein aarongoldf...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  So, I just realized the rules never took notice of proposal 6671,
 adopted on
  March 22, 2010 and affecting Rule 1367. This also means that parts of
  proposal 6717 were ineffective.

 Um...

 I guess so.  Ugh.



Actually, this whole ordeal gave me a really good thesis idea about
alternate realities in nomic (i.e., following the wrong set of rules for an
extended period of time). Has anything been written on this topic yet?