Re: DIS: Proto: Fool Season

2020-01-07 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
The simplest option would be to just cut AiaN from the clone.

-Aris

On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 9:50 PM Gaelan Steele via agora-discussion
 wrote:
>
> I proto'd a similar rule using the “parallel nomic” implementation a while 
> back, and someone (G?) worried that the parallel nomic’s Agora Is A Nomic 
> would make it hard to kill. Maybe you could say something like “The rules of 
> the subnomic notwithstanding, rules of Agora Nomic that explicitly take 
> precedence over the rules of the subnomic always do.”
>
> Gaelan
>
> > On Jan 7, 2020, at 9:37 PM, AIS523--- via agora-discussion 
> >  wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, 2020-01-07 at 21:31 -0800, Gaelan Steele via agora-discussion
> > wrote:
> >> Title: Fool Season
> > [snip]
> >> If so, which of the implementations would work best?
> >
> > I'm worried about the reset button not working correctly due to damage
> > caused while people are having fun. (It probably doesn't even work as
> > written at the moment if the rule is simply repealed.)
> >
> > This might be most interesting as an experiment run using a parallel
> > nomic that starts from a copy of Agora's gamestate. Incidentally, 14
> > days is probably not enough (that isn't even enough time to pass a
> > proposal if the Promotor and Assessor are intentionally stalling).
> >
> > --
> > ais523
> >
>


Re: DIS: Proto: Fool Season

2020-01-07 Thread Gaelan Steele via agora-discussion
Sorry, forgot to address this in my other email. I *think* "If, during Fool 
Season, this rule would be amended, repealed, or otherwise made ineffective, 
Fool Season ends” at power 4 would succeed in preventing repeal, but I’m not 
sure.

Gaelan

> On Jan 7, 2020, at 9:37 PM, AIS523--- via agora-discussion 
>  wrote:
> 
> (It probably doesn't even work as
> written at the moment if the rule is simply repealed.)



Re: DIS: Proto: Fool Season

2020-01-07 Thread Gaelan Steele via agora-discussion
I proto'd a similar rule using the “parallel nomic” implementation a while 
back, and someone (G?) worried that the parallel nomic’s Agora Is A Nomic would 
make it hard to kill. Maybe you could say something like “The rules of the 
subnomic notwithstanding, rules of Agora Nomic that explicitly take precedence 
over the rules of the subnomic always do.”

Gaelan

> On Jan 7, 2020, at 9:37 PM, AIS523--- via agora-discussion 
>  wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 2020-01-07 at 21:31 -0800, Gaelan Steele via agora-discussion
> wrote:
>> Title: Fool Season
> [snip]
>> If so, which of the implementations would work best?
> 
> I'm worried about the reset button not working correctly due to damage
> caused while people are having fun. (It probably doesn't even work as
> written at the moment if the rule is simply repealed.)
> 
> This might be most interesting as an experiment run using a parallel
> nomic that starts from a copy of Agora's gamestate. Incidentally, 14
> days is probably not enough (that isn't even enough time to pass a
> proposal if the Promotor and Assessor are intentionally stalling).
> 
> -- 
> ais523
> 



Re: DIS: Proto: Fool Season

2020-01-07 Thread AIS523--- via agora-discussion
On Tue, 2020-01-07 at 21:31 -0800, Gaelan Steele via agora-discussion
wrote:
> Title: Fool Season
[snip]
> If so, which of the implementations would work best?

I'm worried about the reset button not working correctly due to damage
caused while people are having fun. (It probably doesn't even work as
written at the moment if the rule is simply repealed.)

This might be most interesting as an experiment run using a parallel
nomic that starts from a copy of Agora's gamestate. Incidentally, 14
days is probably not enough (that isn't even enough time to pass a
proposal if the Promotor and Assessor are intentionally stalling).

-- 
ais523