Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2545 assigned to coppro

2009-06-07 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/6/7 Sean Hunt ride...@gmail.com:
 Ed Murphy wrote:
 BobTHJ wrote:

 Please! Trim these messages before responding.

 Or at least quote using  so my QuoteCollapse add-on will work.
 I do. It's the GMail guys who use tabs.

The GMail huys who use RTF. I've turned that off.

-- 
-Tiger


Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2545 assigned to coppro

2009-06-06 Thread Roger Hicks
On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 17:36, Sean Huntride...@gmail.com wrote:
 Aaron Goldfein wrote:

~~~ Far to much quoting done here, omitted for brevity ~~~

 This appeal seems to have been ignored by the CotC.

 NoV em for it, then.


Please! Trim these messages before responding.

BobTHJ


Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2545 assigned to coppro

2009-06-06 Thread Ed Murphy
BobTHJ wrote:

 Please! Trim these messages before responding.

Or at least quote using  so my QuoteCollapse add-on will work.


Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2545 assigned to coppro

2009-06-06 Thread Sean Hunt
Ed Murphy wrote:
 BobTHJ wrote:
 
 Please! Trim these messages before responding.
 
 Or at least quote using  so my QuoteCollapse add-on will work.
I do. It's the GMail guys who use tabs.


Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2545 assigned to coppro

2009-05-31 Thread Ed Murphy
ais523 wrote:

 On Sat, 2009-05-30 at 09:18 -0600, Roger Hicks wrote:
 On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 23:05, Sean Hunt ride...@gmail.com wrote:
 Aaron Goldfein wrote:
 I appeal this judgment.
 Since I spent a Note to remove one of your Rests in the belief that 3
 Rests was excessive, I would ask that, if the judgment is overruled,
 remanded, or reassigned, you repay me in some manner.

 I have no way of enforcing this, but I will note if you do not.

 If the judgment is overruled or re-assigned then it was never valid,
 which means the rests were never created, and therefore your spending
 notes to destroy one was invalid.

 Err, no. You can't retroactively prevent a judgement having happened.
 
 Instead, the appeals panel has to destroy the rests by announcement;
 which might be problematic, given that they no longer all exist. (Rule
 1504; incidentally, {Wooble, Rodlen, Tiger} have failed for over a week
 to meet this SHALL, but the rule forgets to specify a time limit. I
 wonder what recourse I have in this case? Probably, a proposal to fix
 the rule; I'll do that.)

Proto-proto:  If an entity is required to destroy a Rest in the
possession of a player with no Rests, it CAN by announcement create a
Note of a specified pitch and a Rest in the possession of that player.


Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2545 assigned to coppro

2009-05-31 Thread Aaron Goldfein
On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 12:06 PM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote:

  ais523 wrote:

  On Sat, 2009-05-30 at 09:18 -0600, Roger Hicks wrote:
  On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 23:05, Sean Hunt ride...@gmail.com wrote:
  Aaron Goldfein wrote:
  I appeal this judgment.
  Since I spent a Note to remove one of your Rests in the belief that 3
  Rests was excessive, I would ask that, if the judgment is overruled,
  remanded, or reassigned, you repay me in some manner.
 
  I have no way of enforcing this, but I will note if you do not.
 
  If the judgment is overruled or re-assigned then it was never valid,
  which means the rests were never created, and therefore your spending
  notes to destroy one was invalid.
 
  Err, no. You can't retroactively prevent a judgement having happened.
 
  Instead, the appeals panel has to destroy the rests by announcement;
  which might be problematic, given that they no longer all exist. (Rule
  1504; incidentally, {Wooble, Rodlen, Tiger} have failed for over a week
  to meet this SHALL, but the rule forgets to specify a time limit. I
  wonder what recourse I have in this case? Probably, a proposal to fix
  the rule; I'll do that.)

 Proto-proto:  If an entity is required to destroy a Rest in the
 possession of a player with no Rests, it CAN by announcement create a
 Note of a specified pitch and a Rest in the possession of that player.


Or just allow negative rests.


Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2545 assigned to coppro

2009-05-31 Thread Kerim Aydin

On Sun, 31 May 2009, Aaron Goldfein wrote:
 Proto-proto:  If an entity is required to destroy a Rest in the
 possession of a player with no Rests, it CAN by announcement create a
 Note of a specified pitch and a Rest in the possession of that player.

 Or just allow negative rests.


We've had in the past tried to keep currencies a lot like real things
and in that sense we're rather medieval; there's precedents that there's
no such thing as a negative currency, that you can't magically transmute
fungible currencies into each other; that you can't decrease a currency
by a negative amount thereby increasing it etc.  

At least that's some varied precedents it hasn't come up in a bit.

-G.








Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2545 assigned to coppro

2009-05-30 Thread Roger Hicks
On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 23:05, Sean Hunt ride...@gmail.com wrote:
 Aaron Goldfein wrote:
 I appeal this judgment.

 Since I spent a Note to remove one of your Rests in the belief that 3
 Rests was excessive, I would ask that, if the judgment is overruled,
 remanded, or reassigned, you repay me in some manner.

 I have no way of enforcing this, but I will note if you do not.

If the judgment is overruled or re-assigned then it was never valid,
which means the rests were never created, and therefore your spending
notes to destroy one was invalid.

BobTHJ


Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2545 assigned to coppro

2009-05-30 Thread Alex Smith
On Sat, 2009-05-30 at 09:18 -0600, Roger Hicks wrote:
 On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 23:05, Sean Hunt ride...@gmail.com wrote:
  Aaron Goldfein wrote:
  I appeal this judgment.
 
  Since I spent a Note to remove one of your Rests in the belief that 3
  Rests was excessive, I would ask that, if the judgment is overruled,
  remanded, or reassigned, you repay me in some manner.
 
  I have no way of enforcing this, but I will note if you do not.
 
 If the judgment is overruled or re-assigned then it was never valid,
 which means the rests were never created, and therefore your spending
 notes to destroy one was invalid.
 
Err, no. You can't retroactively prevent a judgement having happened.

Instead, the appeals panel has to destroy the rests by announcement;
which might be problematic, given that they no longer all exist. (Rule
1504; incidentally, {Wooble, Rodlen, Tiger} have failed for over a week
to meet this SHALL, but the rule forgets to specify a time limit. I
wonder what recourse I have in this case? Probably, a proposal to fix
the rule; I'll do that.)

-- 
ais523



Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2545 assigned to coppro

2009-05-29 Thread Aaron Goldfein
On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 7:36 PM, Ed Murphy emurph...@socal.rr.com wrote:
 Yally wrote:

 At the time I submitted that report, I was fully aware of this rule but
 I also legitamately thought that I was not breaching it. From my point
 of view, I don't have very many options. There is a plaintext option in
 Gmail, but selecting this removes any capabilities to change fonts or
 fontspacing, meaning I am stuck with a variable width font. Even now I'm
 unsure how to satisfy both the plaintext and monospaced requirements
 and, without some help, I'll probably break this rule again.

 Compose the report in a different window and copy+paste it
 into Gmail?  I do this anyway, because I incrementally update
 the draft document as relevant events occur.


Ehh... I guess I could do that. I generally just keep the report saved
as a draft on gmail and then update that as events occur.