Re: DIS: Re: URGENT! SCAM ALERT! ALL HANDS ON DECK! SCAM INCOMING! SCAM WARNING! SCAM WARNING!

2017-11-22 Thread Aris Merchant 
Both, and also at least one AI-attorney qualified to practice before the
Interstellar Court of Millitary and Martime Law. We want to keep our
options open.


-Aris

On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 5:47 PM, VJ Rada  wrote:
> are you demanding a human attorney or a canine attorney?
>
> On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 12:43 PM, Aris Merchant
>  wrote:
>> We admit nothing. We invoke our rights to remain silent, and demand
attorneys.
>>
>> -Aris
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 5:38 PM, Kerim Aydin 
wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> You're in on it.
>>>
>>> I knew it.
>>>
>>> Traitor.
>>>
>>> On Wed, 22 Nov 2017, Aris Merchant wrote:
 Isn't it possible that e was trying to test the size of different
 whitespace characters to make a report table line up? That's what it
 looks like to me.

 -Aris

 On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 4:53 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
  wrote:
 > SCAM ALERT! ALL HANDS ON DECK! SCAM INCOMING! SCAM WARNING! SCAM
WARNING! A test message contains confusing contents was received at 0:45 on
November 23, 2017. This message took the form of other similar messages
that led up to timing scams. Please be aware that a scam may be incoming.
Watch out for suspicious messages from this player or eir associates and
scrutinize all messages thoroughly. Agora has recently experienced an
attempted scam and this could be in preparation for a follow-up. Please
monitor the list carefully. Please forward this as widely as possible for
maximum awareness.
 > 
 > Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
 > p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com
 >
 >
 >
 >> On Nov 22, 2017, at 7:45 PM, Madeline  wrote:
 >>
 >> | Telnaior|
 >> | 天火狐 |
 >> | Trigon  |
 >>
 >>
 >> | Telnaior|
 >> | 天火狐   |
 >> | Trigon  |
 >>
 >>
 >> | Telnaior|
 >> | 天火狐  |
 >> | Trigon  |
 >>
 >

>
>
>
> --
> From V.J. Rada

Re: DIS: Re: URGENT! SCAM ALERT! ALL HANDS ON DECK! SCAM INCOMING! SCAM WARNING! SCAM WARNING!

2017-11-22 Thread Aris Merchant 
We have consulted with our attorneys. I had absolutely nothing to do
with this Telnaior person before being accused of participating in
this scam with em. I don't even know who e really is, as we've never
been in the same room together. We demand to be shown our accusers and
presented with the evidence against us. We have the right to trial by
jury, but since the Arbitor is clearly against us, we demand trial by
the people of Agora. Show us the evidence that we've ever done
anything even vaguely suspicious, because we haven't. We are law
abiding Agorans and totally not scamsters. Any claim to the contrary
is patent nonsense.

Disclaimer: Statements in this message may or may not be true,
including this one.

-Aris

On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 5:43 PM, Aris Merchant
 wrote:
> We admit nothing. We invoke our rights to remain silent, and demand attorneys.
>
> -Aris
>
> On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 5:38 PM, Kerim Aydin  wrote:
>>
>>
>> You're in on it.
>>
>> I knew it.
>>
>> Traitor.
>>
>> On Wed, 22 Nov 2017, Aris Merchant wrote:
>>> Isn't it possible that e was trying to test the size of different
>>> whitespace characters to make a report table line up? That's what it
>>> looks like to me.
>>>
>>> -Aris
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 4:53 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
>>>  wrote:
>>> > SCAM ALERT! ALL HANDS ON DECK! SCAM INCOMING! SCAM WARNING! SCAM WARNING! 
>>> > A test message contains confusing contents was received at 0:45 on 
>>> > November 23, 2017. This message took the form of other similar messages 
>>> > that led up to timing scams. Please be aware that a scam may be incoming. 
>>> > Watch out for suspicious messages from this player or eir associates and 
>>> > scrutinize all messages thoroughly. Agora has recently experienced an 
>>> > attempted scam and this could be in preparation for a follow-up. Please 
>>> > monitor the list carefully. Please forward this as widely as possible for 
>>> > maximum awareness.
>>> > 
>>> > Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
>>> > p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> On Nov 22, 2017, at 7:45 PM, Madeline  wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> | Telnaior|
>>> >> | 天火狐 |
>>> >> | Trigon  |
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> | Telnaior|
>>> >> | 天火狐   |
>>> >> | Trigon  |
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> | Telnaior|
>>> >> | 天火狐  |
>>> >> | Trigon  |
>>> >>
>>> >
>>>

Re: BUS: SCAMMERS FOUND! (Was: Re: DIS: Re: URGENT! SCAM ALERT! ALL HANDS ON DECK! SCAM INCOMING! SCAM WARNING! SCAM WARNING!)

2017-11-22 Thread Madeline 
How many E-mails actually went THROUGH seemed inconsistent and I'm not 
really sure at all what to make of it.



On 2017-11-23 12:44, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote:

In the future, I will. Part of the joke was the mass of emails, demonstrating 
the overreaction.

Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com




On Nov 22, 2017, at 8:42 PM, Aris Merchant  
wrote:

OOC: pick one forum please, to avoid spamming.

-Aris

On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 5:41 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
 wrote:

SCAMMERS FOUND! A test message contains confusing contents was received at 0:45 
on November 23, 2017. This message took the form of other similar messages that 
led up to timing scams. Please be aware that a scam may be incoming. Watch out 
for suspicious messages from this player or eir associates and scrutinize all 
messages thoroughly. Agora has recently experienced an attempted scam and this 
could be in preparation for a follow-up. Please monitor the list carefully. 
Please forward this as widely as possible for maximum awareness. Following 
this, Aris engaged in an attempt to cover up the scam attempt. Please be aware 
and suspicious of any actions from Aris or Telnaior.

Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com




On Nov 22, 2017, at 8:38 PM, Kerim Aydin  wrote:



You're in on it.

I knew it.

Traitor.

On Wed, 22 Nov 2017, Aris Merchant wrote:

Isn't it possible that e was trying to test the size of different
whitespace characters to make a report table line up? That's what it
looks like to me.

-Aris

On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 4:53 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
 wrote:

SCAM ALERT! ALL HANDS ON DECK! SCAM INCOMING! SCAM WARNING! SCAM WARNING! A 
test message contains confusing contents was received at 0:45 on November 23, 
2017. This message took the form of other similar messages that led up to 
timing scams. Please be aware that a scam may be incoming. Watch out for 
suspicious messages from this player or eir associates and scrutinize all 
messages thoroughly. Agora has recently experienced an attempted scam and this 
could be in preparation for a follow-up. Please monitor the list carefully. 
Please forward this as widely as possible for maximum awareness.

Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com




On Nov 22, 2017, at 7:45 PM, Madeline  wrote:

| Telnaior|
| 天火狐 |
| Trigon  |


| Telnaior|
| 天火狐   |
| Trigon  |


| Telnaior|
| 天火狐  |
| Trigon  |

Re: BUS: SCAMMERS FOUND! (Was: Re: DIS: Re: URGENT! SCAM ALERT! ALL HANDS ON DECK! SCAM INCOMING! SCAM WARNING! SCAM WARNING!)

2017-11-22 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus 
Sorry, I will stop. But, my spam filter has thought for years that any email I 
send is spam.

Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com



> On Nov 22, 2017, at 8:45 PM, Aris Merchant 
>  wrote:
> 
> You have successfully convinced my spam filter that you're evil.
> 
> -Aris
> 
> On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 5:44 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
>  wrote:
>> In the future, I will. Part of the joke was the mass of emails, 
>> demonstrating the overreaction.
>> 
>> Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
>> p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 22, 2017, at 8:42 PM, Aris Merchant 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> OOC: pick one forum please, to avoid spamming.
>>> 
>>> -Aris
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 5:41 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
>>>  wrote:
 SCAMMERS FOUND! A test message contains confusing contents was received at 
 0:45 on November 23, 2017. This message took the form of other similar 
 messages that led up to timing scams. Please be aware that a scam may be 
 incoming. Watch out for suspicious messages from this player or eir 
 associates and scrutinize all messages thoroughly. Agora has recently 
 experienced an attempted scam and this could be in preparation for a 
 follow-up. Please monitor the list carefully. Please forward this as 
 widely as possible for maximum awareness. Following this, Aris engaged in 
 an attempt to cover up the scam attempt. Please be aware and suspicious of 
 any actions from Aris or Telnaior.
 
 Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
 p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com
 
 
 
> On Nov 22, 2017, at 8:38 PM, Kerim Aydin  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> You're in on it.
> 
> I knew it.
> 
> Traitor.
> 
> On Wed, 22 Nov 2017, Aris Merchant wrote:
>> Isn't it possible that e was trying to test the size of different
>> whitespace characters to make a report table line up? That's what it
>> looks like to me.
>> 
>> -Aris
>> 
>> On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 4:53 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
>>  wrote:
>>> SCAM ALERT! ALL HANDS ON DECK! SCAM INCOMING! SCAM WARNING! SCAM 
>>> WARNING! A test message contains confusing contents was received at 
>>> 0:45 on November 23, 2017. This message took the form of other similar 
>>> messages that led up to timing scams. Please be aware that a scam may 
>>> be incoming. Watch out for suspicious messages from this player or eir 
>>> associates and scrutinize all messages thoroughly. Agora has recently 
>>> experienced an attempted scam and this could be in preparation for a 
>>> follow-up. Please monitor the list carefully. Please forward this as 
>>> widely as possible for maximum awareness.
>>> 
>>> Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
>>> p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Nov 22, 2017, at 7:45 PM, Madeline  wrote:
 
 | Telnaior|
 | 天火狐 |
 | Trigon  |
 
 
 | Telnaior|
 | 天火狐   |
 | Trigon  |
 
 
 | Telnaior|
 | 天火狐  |
 | Trigon  |
 
>>> 
>> 
 
>> 



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Re: DIS: Re: URGENT! SCAM ALERT! ALL HANDS ON DECK! SCAM INCOMING! SCAM WARNING! SCAM WARNING!

2017-11-22 Thread VJ Rada 
are you demanding a human attorney or a canine attorney?

On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 12:43 PM, Aris Merchant
 wrote:
> We admit nothing. We invoke our rights to remain silent, and demand attorneys.
>
> -Aris
>
> On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 5:38 PM, Kerim Aydin  wrote:
>>
>>
>> You're in on it.
>>
>> I knew it.
>>
>> Traitor.
>>
>> On Wed, 22 Nov 2017, Aris Merchant wrote:
>>> Isn't it possible that e was trying to test the size of different
>>> whitespace characters to make a report table line up? That's what it
>>> looks like to me.
>>>
>>> -Aris
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 4:53 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
>>>  wrote:
>>> > SCAM ALERT! ALL HANDS ON DECK! SCAM INCOMING! SCAM WARNING! SCAM WARNING! 
>>> > A test message contains confusing contents was received at 0:45 on 
>>> > November 23, 2017. This message took the form of other similar messages 
>>> > that led up to timing scams. Please be aware that a scam may be incoming. 
>>> > Watch out for suspicious messages from this player or eir associates and 
>>> > scrutinize all messages thoroughly. Agora has recently experienced an 
>>> > attempted scam and this could be in preparation for a follow-up. Please 
>>> > monitor the list carefully. Please forward this as widely as possible for 
>>> > maximum awareness.
>>> > 
>>> > Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
>>> > p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> On Nov 22, 2017, at 7:45 PM, Madeline  wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> | Telnaior|
>>> >> | 天火狐 |
>>> >> | Trigon  |
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> | Telnaior|
>>> >> | 天火狐   |
>>> >> | Trigon  |
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> | Telnaior|
>>> >> | 天火狐  |
>>> >> | Trigon  |
>>> >>
>>> >
>>>



-- 
>From V.J. Rada

Re: DIS: Re: URGENT! SCAM ALERT! ALL HANDS ON DECK! SCAM INCOMING! SCAM WARNING! SCAM WARNING!

2017-11-22 Thread ATMunn 

I think a pledge would work better.

On 11/22/2017 8:45 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote:

Proto-contract: Emergency Attorney Services.

PSS will provide Emergency Attorney Services with 12 hours notice to defend 
players or other persons.

Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com




On Nov 22, 2017, at 8:43 PM, Aris Merchant  
wrote:

We admit nothing. We invoke our rights to remain silent, and demand attorneys.

-Aris

On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 5:38 PM, Kerim Aydin  wrote:



You're in on it.

I knew it.

Traitor.

On Wed, 22 Nov 2017, Aris Merchant wrote:

Isn't it possible that e was trying to test the size of different
whitespace characters to make a report table line up? That's what it
looks like to me.

-Aris

On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 4:53 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
 wrote:

SCAM ALERT! ALL HANDS ON DECK! SCAM INCOMING! SCAM WARNING! SCAM WARNING! A 
test message contains confusing contents was received at 0:45 on November 23, 
2017. This message took the form of other similar messages that led up to 
timing scams. Please be aware that a scam may be incoming. Watch out for 
suspicious messages from this player or eir associates and scrutinize all 
messages thoroughly. Agora has recently experienced an attempted scam and this 
could be in preparation for a follow-up. Please monitor the list carefully. 
Please forward this as widely as possible for maximum awareness.

Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com




On Nov 22, 2017, at 7:45 PM, Madeline  wrote:

| Telnaior|
| 天火狐 |
| Trigon  |


| Telnaior|
| 天火狐   |
| Trigon  |


| Telnaior|
| 天火狐  |
| Trigon  |

Re: BUS: SCAMMERS FOUND! (Was: Re: DIS: Re: URGENT! SCAM ALERT! ALL HANDS ON DECK! SCAM INCOMING! SCAM WARNING! SCAM WARNING!)

2017-11-22 Thread Aris Merchant 
You have successfully convinced my spam filter that you're evil.

-Aris

On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 5:44 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
 wrote:
> In the future, I will. Part of the joke was the mass of emails, demonstrating 
> the overreaction.
> 
> Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
> p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com
>
>
>
>> On Nov 22, 2017, at 8:42 PM, Aris Merchant 
>>  wrote:
>>
>> OOC: pick one forum please, to avoid spamming.
>>
>> -Aris
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 5:41 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
>>  wrote:
>>> SCAMMERS FOUND! A test message contains confusing contents was received at 
>>> 0:45 on November 23, 2017. This message took the form of other similar 
>>> messages that led up to timing scams. Please be aware that a scam may be 
>>> incoming. Watch out for suspicious messages from this player or eir 
>>> associates and scrutinize all messages thoroughly. Agora has recently 
>>> experienced an attempted scam and this could be in preparation for a 
>>> follow-up. Please monitor the list carefully. Please forward this as widely 
>>> as possible for maximum awareness. Following this, Aris engaged in an 
>>> attempt to cover up the scam attempt. Please be aware and suspicious of any 
>>> actions from Aris or Telnaior.
>>> 
>>> Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
>>> p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
 On Nov 22, 2017, at 8:38 PM, Kerim Aydin  wrote:



 You're in on it.

 I knew it.

 Traitor.

 On Wed, 22 Nov 2017, Aris Merchant wrote:
> Isn't it possible that e was trying to test the size of different
> whitespace characters to make a report table line up? That's what it
> looks like to me.
>
> -Aris
>
> On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 4:53 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
>  wrote:
>> SCAM ALERT! ALL HANDS ON DECK! SCAM INCOMING! SCAM WARNING! SCAM 
>> WARNING! A test message contains confusing contents was received at 0:45 
>> on November 23, 2017. This message took the form of other similar 
>> messages that led up to timing scams. Please be aware that a scam may be 
>> incoming. Watch out for suspicious messages from this player or eir 
>> associates and scrutinize all messages thoroughly. Agora has recently 
>> experienced an attempted scam and this could be in preparation for a 
>> follow-up. Please monitor the list carefully. Please forward this as 
>> widely as possible for maximum awareness.
>> 
>> Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
>> p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Nov 22, 2017, at 7:45 PM, Madeline  wrote:
>>>
>>> | Telnaior|
>>> | 天火狐 |
>>> | Trigon  |
>>>
>>>
>>> | Telnaior|
>>> | 天火狐   |
>>> | Trigon  |
>>>
>>>
>>> | Telnaior|
>>> | 天火狐  |
>>> | Trigon  |
>>>
>>
>
>>>
>

Re: DIS: Re: URGENT! SCAM ALERT! ALL HANDS ON DECK! SCAM INCOMING! SCAM WARNING! SCAM WARNING!

2017-11-22 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus 
Proto-contract: Emergency Attorney Services.

PSS will provide Emergency Attorney Services with 12 hours notice to defend 
players or other persons.

Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com



> On Nov 22, 2017, at 8:43 PM, Aris Merchant 
>  wrote:
> 
> We admit nothing. We invoke our rights to remain silent, and demand attorneys.
> 
> -Aris
> 
> On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 5:38 PM, Kerim Aydin  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> You're in on it.
>> 
>> I knew it.
>> 
>> Traitor.
>> 
>> On Wed, 22 Nov 2017, Aris Merchant wrote:
>>> Isn't it possible that e was trying to test the size of different
>>> whitespace characters to make a report table line up? That's what it
>>> looks like to me.
>>> 
>>> -Aris
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 4:53 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
>>>  wrote:
 SCAM ALERT! ALL HANDS ON DECK! SCAM INCOMING! SCAM WARNING! SCAM WARNING! 
 A test message contains confusing contents was received at 0:45 on 
 November 23, 2017. This message took the form of other similar messages 
 that led up to timing scams. Please be aware that a scam may be incoming. 
 Watch out for suspicious messages from this player or eir associates and 
 scrutinize all messages thoroughly. Agora has recently experienced an 
 attempted scam and this could be in preparation for a follow-up. Please 
 monitor the list carefully. Please forward this as widely as possible for 
 maximum awareness.
 
 Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
 p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com
 
 
 
> On Nov 22, 2017, at 7:45 PM, Madeline  wrote:
> 
> | Telnaior|
> | 天火狐 |
> | Trigon  |
> 
> 
> | Telnaior|
> | 天火狐   |
> | Trigon  |
> 
> 
> | Telnaior|
> | 天火狐  |
> | Trigon  |
> 
 
>>> 



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Re: DIS: Re: URGENT! SCAM ALERT! ALL HANDS ON DECK! SCAM INCOMING! SCAM WARNING! SCAM WARNING!

2017-11-22 Thread Aris Merchant 
We admit nothing. We invoke our rights to remain silent, and demand attorneys.

-Aris

On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 5:38 PM, Kerim Aydin  wrote:
>
>
> You're in on it.
>
> I knew it.
>
> Traitor.
>
> On Wed, 22 Nov 2017, Aris Merchant wrote:
>> Isn't it possible that e was trying to test the size of different
>> whitespace characters to make a report table line up? That's what it
>> looks like to me.
>>
>> -Aris
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 4:53 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
>>  wrote:
>> > SCAM ALERT! ALL HANDS ON DECK! SCAM INCOMING! SCAM WARNING! SCAM WARNING! 
>> > A test message contains confusing contents was received at 0:45 on 
>> > November 23, 2017. This message took the form of other similar messages 
>> > that led up to timing scams. Please be aware that a scam may be incoming. 
>> > Watch out for suspicious messages from this player or eir associates and 
>> > scrutinize all messages thoroughly. Agora has recently experienced an 
>> > attempted scam and this could be in preparation for a follow-up. Please 
>> > monitor the list carefully. Please forward this as widely as possible for 
>> > maximum awareness.
>> > 
>> > Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
>> > p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> On Nov 22, 2017, at 7:45 PM, Madeline  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> | Telnaior|
>> >> | 天火狐 |
>> >> | Trigon  |
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> | Telnaior|
>> >> | 天火狐   |
>> >> | Trigon  |
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> | Telnaior|
>> >> | 天火狐  |
>> >> | Trigon  |
>> >>
>> >
>>

Re: BUS: SCAMMERS FOUND! (Was: Re: DIS: Re: URGENT! SCAM ALERT! ALL HANDS ON DECK! SCAM INCOMING! SCAM WARNING! SCAM WARNING!)

2017-11-22 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus 
In the future, I will. Part of the joke was the mass of emails, demonstrating 
the overreaction.

Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com



> On Nov 22, 2017, at 8:42 PM, Aris Merchant 
>  wrote:
> 
> OOC: pick one forum please, to avoid spamming.
> 
> -Aris
> 
> On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 5:41 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
>  wrote:
>> SCAMMERS FOUND! A test message contains confusing contents was received at 
>> 0:45 on November 23, 2017. This message took the form of other similar 
>> messages that led up to timing scams. Please be aware that a scam may be 
>> incoming. Watch out for suspicious messages from this player or eir 
>> associates and scrutinize all messages thoroughly. Agora has recently 
>> experienced an attempted scam and this could be in preparation for a 
>> follow-up. Please monitor the list carefully. Please forward this as widely 
>> as possible for maximum awareness. Following this, Aris engaged in an 
>> attempt to cover up the scam attempt. Please be aware and suspicious of any 
>> actions from Aris or Telnaior.
>> 
>> Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
>> p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 22, 2017, at 8:38 PM, Kerim Aydin  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> You're in on it.
>>> 
>>> I knew it.
>>> 
>>> Traitor.
>>> 
>>> On Wed, 22 Nov 2017, Aris Merchant wrote:
 Isn't it possible that e was trying to test the size of different
 whitespace characters to make a report table line up? That's what it
 looks like to me.
 
 -Aris
 
 On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 4:53 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
  wrote:
> SCAM ALERT! ALL HANDS ON DECK! SCAM INCOMING! SCAM WARNING! SCAM WARNING! 
> A test message contains confusing contents was received at 0:45 on 
> November 23, 2017. This message took the form of other similar messages 
> that led up to timing scams. Please be aware that a scam may be incoming. 
> Watch out for suspicious messages from this player or eir associates and 
> scrutinize all messages thoroughly. Agora has recently experienced an 
> attempted scam and this could be in preparation for a follow-up. Please 
> monitor the list carefully. Please forward this as widely as possible for 
> maximum awareness.
> 
> Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
> p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
>> On Nov 22, 2017, at 7:45 PM, Madeline  wrote:
>> 
>> | Telnaior|
>> | 天火狐 |
>> | Trigon  |
>> 
>> 
>> | Telnaior|
>> | 天火狐   |
>> | Trigon  |
>> 
>> 
>> | Telnaior|
>> | 天火狐  |
>> | Trigon  |
>> 
> 
 
>> 



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Re: BUS: SCAMMERS FOUND! (Was: Re: DIS: Re: URGENT! SCAM ALERT! ALL HANDS ON DECK! SCAM INCOMING! SCAM WARNING! SCAM WARNING!)

2017-11-22 Thread Aris Merchant 
OOC: pick one forum please, to avoid spamming.

-Aris

On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 5:41 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
 wrote:
> SCAMMERS FOUND! A test message contains confusing contents was received at 
> 0:45 on November 23, 2017. This message took the form of other similar 
> messages that led up to timing scams. Please be aware that a scam may be 
> incoming. Watch out for suspicious messages from this player or eir 
> associates and scrutinize all messages thoroughly. Agora has recently 
> experienced an attempted scam and this could be in preparation for a 
> follow-up. Please monitor the list carefully. Please forward this as widely 
> as possible for maximum awareness. Following this, Aris engaged in an attempt 
> to cover up the scam attempt. Please be aware and suspicious of any actions 
> from Aris or Telnaior.
> 
> Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
> p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com
>
>
>
>> On Nov 22, 2017, at 8:38 PM, Kerim Aydin  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> You're in on it.
>>
>> I knew it.
>>
>> Traitor.
>>
>> On Wed, 22 Nov 2017, Aris Merchant wrote:
>>> Isn't it possible that e was trying to test the size of different
>>> whitespace characters to make a report table line up? That's what it
>>> looks like to me.
>>>
>>> -Aris
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 4:53 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
>>>  wrote:
 SCAM ALERT! ALL HANDS ON DECK! SCAM INCOMING! SCAM WARNING! SCAM WARNING! 
 A test message contains confusing contents was received at 0:45 on 
 November 23, 2017. This message took the form of other similar messages 
 that led up to timing scams. Please be aware that a scam may be incoming. 
 Watch out for suspicious messages from this player or eir associates and 
 scrutinize all messages thoroughly. Agora has recently experienced an 
 attempted scam and this could be in preparation for a follow-up. Please 
 monitor the list carefully. Please forward this as widely as possible for 
 maximum awareness.
 
 Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
 p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com



> On Nov 22, 2017, at 7:45 PM, Madeline  wrote:
>
> | Telnaior|
> | 天火狐 |
> | Trigon  |
>
>
> | Telnaior|
> | 天火狐   |
> | Trigon  |
>
>
> | Telnaior|
> | 天火狐  |
> | Trigon  |
>

>>>
>

SCAMMERS FOUND! (Was: Re: DIS: Re: URGENT! SCAM ALERT! ALL HANDS ON DECK! SCAM INCOMING! SCAM WARNING! SCAM WARNING!)

2017-11-22 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus 
SCAMMERS FOUND! A test message contains confusing contents was received at 0:45 
on November 23, 2017. This message took the form of other similar messages that 
led up to timing scams. Please be aware that a scam may be incoming. Watch out 
for suspicious messages from this player or eir associates and scrutinize all 
messages thoroughly. Agora has recently experienced an attempted scam and this 
could be in preparation for a follow-up. Please monitor the list carefully. 
Please forward this as widely as possible for maximum awareness. Following 
this, Aris engaged in an attempt to cover up the scam attempt. Please be aware 
and suspicious of any actions from Aris or Telnaior.

Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com



> On Nov 22, 2017, at 8:38 PM, Kerim Aydin  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> You're in on it.
> 
> I knew it.
> 
> Traitor.
> 
> On Wed, 22 Nov 2017, Aris Merchant wrote:
>> Isn't it possible that e was trying to test the size of different
>> whitespace characters to make a report table line up? That's what it
>> looks like to me.
>> 
>> -Aris
>> 
>> On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 4:53 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
>>  wrote:
>>> SCAM ALERT! ALL HANDS ON DECK! SCAM INCOMING! SCAM WARNING! SCAM WARNING! A 
>>> test message contains confusing contents was received at 0:45 on November 
>>> 23, 2017. This message took the form of other similar messages that led up 
>>> to timing scams. Please be aware that a scam may be incoming. Watch out for 
>>> suspicious messages from this player or eir associates and scrutinize all 
>>> messages thoroughly. Agora has recently experienced an attempted scam and 
>>> this could be in preparation for a follow-up. Please monitor the list 
>>> carefully. Please forward this as widely as possible for maximum awareness.
>>> 
>>> Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
>>> p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Nov 22, 2017, at 7:45 PM, Madeline  wrote:
 
 | Telnaior|
 | 天火狐 |
 | Trigon  |
 
 
 | Telnaior|
 | 天火狐   |
 | Trigon  |
 
 
 | Telnaior|
 | 天火狐  |
 | Trigon  |
 
>>> 
>> 



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Re: DIS: Re: URGENT! SCAM ALERT! ALL HANDS ON DECK! SCAM INCOMING! SCAM WARNING! SCAM WARNING!

2017-11-22 Thread Kerim Aydin 


You're in on it.

I knew it.

Traitor.

On Wed, 22 Nov 2017, Aris Merchant wrote:
> Isn't it possible that e was trying to test the size of different
> whitespace characters to make a report table line up? That's what it
> looks like to me.
> 
> -Aris
> 
> On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 4:53 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
>  wrote:
> > SCAM ALERT! ALL HANDS ON DECK! SCAM INCOMING! SCAM WARNING! SCAM WARNING! A 
> > test message contains confusing contents was received at 0:45 on November 
> > 23, 2017. This message took the form of other similar messages that led up 
> > to timing scams. Please be aware that a scam may be incoming. Watch out for 
> > suspicious messages from this player or eir associates and scrutinize all 
> > messages thoroughly. Agora has recently experienced an attempted scam and 
> > this could be in preparation for a follow-up. Please monitor the list 
> > carefully. Please forward this as widely as possible for maximum awareness.
> > 
> > Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
> > p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Nov 22, 2017, at 7:45 PM, Madeline  wrote:
> >>
> >> | Telnaior|
> >> | 天火狐 |
> >> | Trigon  |
> >>
> >>
> >> | Telnaior|
> >> | 天火狐   |
> >> | Trigon  |
> >>
> >>
> >> | Telnaior|
> >> | 天火狐  |
> >> | Trigon  |
> >>
> >
>

Re: DIS: Re: URGENT! SCAM ALERT! ALL HANDS ON DECK! SCAM INCOMING! SCAM WARNING! SCAM WARNING!

2017-11-22 Thread Alex Smith 
On Thu, 2017-11-23 at 12:03 +1100, Madeline wrote:
> What is a "timing scam" and how do I go about performing one?

It's a scam that could be trivially prevented by other players doing a
particular action, and often it's obvious what the action is; but the
action in question only has a very limited time period and you do the
scam right at the end of the time period so that nobody else has the
chance to see what it is and respond before the time runs out.

Alternatively, it's a scam that anyone could do once a time period
opens up, but only the first person to do it gets away with it, so you
do it at the first possible moment so that nobody else can do it before
you.

In both cases, the key property is that the scam only works because
it's performed at a very specific time, relative to some other action.
If you see plyers sending an apparently pointless message to the lists,
a very common cause is that they're trying to see exactly how long
it'll take to arrive so that they can time a messge accordingly.

The simplest example of a timing scam is an easily performed action
that gives you an arbitrary number of votes on a proposal. If you do
that early during the voting period, other people will just repeat it
(once they know what it is), and get even more votes, to outvote you.
If instead you do it immediately before the voting period ends, people
won't have a chance to use it to outvote you, because you can't vote
past the end of the voting period.

On Thu, 2017-11-23 at 01:05 +, Alexis Hunt wrote:
> A timing scam is generally any sort of scam or even just a regular
> action which needs to be performed at a precise time to work. The
> purest form, I'd say, is doing something in between two other things
> being done in an unexpected way; Alex has a particularly great
> example that I can't recall.

My favourite timing scam was probably my win by Clout (defined as "a
higher voting strength than everyone else's put together"). At the
time, there was a system in which the players with maximum voting
strength had it set down to 1 at the start of each month, and then an
officer would increase some players' voting strengths. Also, you could
spend assets to perform small adjustments to players' voting strengths.
Right at the end of a month, I adjusted some players' voting strengths
to produce a tied maximum value, dropping a lot of voting strength out
of the game; then at the start of the next month (only a few minutes
later), I did some more adjustments until my voting strength was higher
than everyone else's put together.

This couldn't have been done at any other time of the month; the scam
of setting multiple strengths to maximum could have been counteracted
if players were aware of it (via adjusting strengths to break the tie).
Additionally, if I hadn't claimed the win immediately at the start of
the next month, the scam could have been broken via players increasing
their own voting strengths manually; I wouldn't have been able to keep
up (because the combined assets of the rest of Agora were worth a lot
more than mine, even though I'd been saving up).

Not exactly a timing scam, but also a moment of near-perfect timing,
was when there were rules punishing players for having too many assets
at set intervals. BobTHJ, who determined the exact timing (being the
relevant officer), decided to give me a whole load of assets just
before e was planning to enact the punishment. However, because e had
automated eir reports, the asset transfer was in a separate message
from the actual report that carried out the punishment. I somehow
managed to send an email between the two of eirs, transferring back the
assets in question to the Lost and Found Department (the equivalent of
Agora owning assets today) and beating the scam. It wasn't a true
timing scam, though, as e could have done the two events in one message
and given me no opportunity to interfere.

-- 
ais523

Re: DIS: Re: URGENT! SCAM ALERT! ALL HANDS ON DECK! SCAM INCOMING! SCAM WARNING! SCAM WARNING!

2017-11-22 Thread Alexis Hunt 
A timing scam is generally any sort of scam or even just a regular action
which needs to be performed at a precise time to work. The purest form, I'd
say, is doing something in between two other things being done in an
unexpected way; Alex has a particularly great example that I can't recall.

On Wed, 22 Nov 2017 at 20:03 Madeline  wrote:

> What is a "timing scam" and how do I go about performing one?
>
>
> On 2017-11-23 12:00, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote:
> > Oh, well that's plausible, but I just wanted to be safe. That could also
> be cover for a timing scam.
> > 
> > Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
> > p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Nov 22, 2017, at 7:54 PM, Aris Merchant <
> thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Isn't it possible that e was trying to test the size of different
> >> whitespace characters to make a report table line up? That's what it
> >> looks like to me.
> >>
> >> -Aris
> >>
> >> On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 4:53 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
> >>  wrote:
> >>> SCAM ALERT! ALL HANDS ON DECK! SCAM INCOMING! SCAM WARNING! SCAM
> WARNING! A test message contains confusing contents was received at 0:45 on
> November 23, 2017. This message took the form of other similar messages
> that led up to timing scams. Please be aware that a scam may be incoming.
> Watch out for suspicious messages from this player or eir associates and
> scrutinize all messages thoroughly. Agora has recently experienced an
> attempted scam and this could be in preparation for a follow-up. Please
> monitor the list carefully. Please forward this as widely as possible for
> maximum awareness.
> >>> 
> >>> Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
> >>> p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
>  On Nov 22, 2017, at 7:45 PM, Madeline  wrote:
> 
>  | Telnaior|
>  | 天火狐 |
>  | Trigon  |
> 
> 
>  | Telnaior|
>  | 天火狐   |
>  | Trigon  |
> 
> 
>  | Telnaior|
>  | 天火狐  |
>  | Trigon  |
> 
>
>

Re: DIS: Re: URGENT! SCAM ALERT! ALL HANDS ON DECK! SCAM INCOMING! SCAM WARNING! SCAM WARNING!

2017-11-22 Thread Madeline 

What is a "timing scam" and how do I go about performing one?


On 2017-11-23 12:00, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote:

Oh, well that's plausible, but I just wanted to be safe. That could also be 
cover for a timing scam.

Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com




On Nov 22, 2017, at 7:54 PM, Aris Merchant  
wrote:

Isn't it possible that e was trying to test the size of different
whitespace characters to make a report table line up? That's what it
looks like to me.

-Aris

On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 4:53 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
 wrote:

SCAM ALERT! ALL HANDS ON DECK! SCAM INCOMING! SCAM WARNING! SCAM WARNING! A 
test message contains confusing contents was received at 0:45 on November 23, 
2017. This message took the form of other similar messages that led up to 
timing scams. Please be aware that a scam may be incoming. Watch out for 
suspicious messages from this player or eir associates and scrutinize all 
messages thoroughly. Agora has recently experienced an attempted scam and this 
could be in preparation for a follow-up. Please monitor the list carefully. 
Please forward this as widely as possible for maximum awareness.

Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com




On Nov 22, 2017, at 7:45 PM, Madeline  wrote:

| Telnaior|
| 天火狐 |
| Trigon  |


| Telnaior|
| 天火狐   |
| Trigon  |


| Telnaior|
| 天火狐  |
| Trigon  |

Re: DIS: Re: URGENT! SCAM ALERT! ALL HANDS ON DECK! SCAM INCOMING! SCAM WARNING! SCAM WARNING!

2017-11-22 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus 
Oh, well that's plausible, but I just wanted to be safe. That could also be 
cover for a timing scam.

Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com



> On Nov 22, 2017, at 7:54 PM, Aris Merchant 
>  wrote:
> 
> Isn't it possible that e was trying to test the size of different
> whitespace characters to make a report table line up? That's what it
> looks like to me.
> 
> -Aris
> 
> On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 4:53 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
>  wrote:
>> SCAM ALERT! ALL HANDS ON DECK! SCAM INCOMING! SCAM WARNING! SCAM WARNING! A 
>> test message contains confusing contents was received at 0:45 on November 
>> 23, 2017. This message took the form of other similar messages that led up 
>> to timing scams. Please be aware that a scam may be incoming. Watch out for 
>> suspicious messages from this player or eir associates and scrutinize all 
>> messages thoroughly. Agora has recently experienced an attempted scam and 
>> this could be in preparation for a follow-up. Please monitor the list 
>> carefully. Please forward this as widely as possible for maximum awareness.
>> 
>> Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
>> p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 22, 2017, at 7:45 PM, Madeline  wrote:
>>> 
>>> | Telnaior|
>>> | 天火狐 |
>>> | Trigon  |
>>> 
>>> 
>>> | Telnaior|
>>> | 天火狐   |
>>> | Trigon  |
>>> 
>>> 
>>> | Telnaior|
>>> | 天火狐  |
>>> | Trigon  |
>>> 
>> 



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Re: DIS: Re: URGENT! SCAM ALERT! ALL HANDS ON DECK! SCAM INCOMING! SCAM WARNING! SCAM WARNING!

2017-11-22 Thread Madeline 

lmao
Yes, that's what I intended
Too bad the answer is "none of the above" :V


On 2017-11-23 11:54, Aris Merchant wrote:

Isn't it possible that e was trying to test the size of different
whitespace characters to make a report table line up? That's what it
looks like to me.

-Aris

On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 4:53 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
 wrote:

SCAM ALERT! ALL HANDS ON DECK! SCAM INCOMING! SCAM WARNING! SCAM WARNING! A 
test message contains confusing contents was received at 0:45 on November 23, 
2017. This message took the form of other similar messages that led up to 
timing scams. Please be aware that a scam may be incoming. Watch out for 
suspicious messages from this player or eir associates and scrutinize all 
messages thoroughly. Agora has recently experienced an attempted scam and this 
could be in preparation for a follow-up. Please monitor the list carefully. 
Please forward this as widely as possible for maximum awareness.

Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com




On Nov 22, 2017, at 7:45 PM, Madeline  wrote:

| Telnaior|
| 天火狐 |
| Trigon  |


| Telnaior|
| 天火狐   |
| Trigon  |


| Telnaior|
| 天火狐  |
| Trigon  |

Re: DIS: Re: URGENT! SCAM ALERT! ALL HANDS ON DECK! SCAM INCOMING! SCAM WARNING! SCAM WARNING!

2017-11-22 Thread Josh T 
In case if you're curious, if things are set up correctly, in a fixed width
font a CJK character is supposed to have the width of two Latin alphabet
characters.

天火狐

On 22 November 2017 at 19:54, Aris Merchant <
thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Isn't it possible that e was trying to test the size of different
> whitespace characters to make a report table line up? That's what it
> looks like to me.
>
> -Aris
>
> On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 4:53 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
>  wrote:
> > SCAM ALERT! ALL HANDS ON DECK! SCAM INCOMING! SCAM WARNING! SCAM
> WARNING! A test message contains confusing contents was received at 0:45 on
> November 23, 2017. This message took the form of other similar messages
> that led up to timing scams. Please be aware that a scam may be incoming.
> Watch out for suspicious messages from this player or eir associates and
> scrutinize all messages thoroughly. Agora has recently experienced an
> attempted scam and this could be in preparation for a follow-up. Please
> monitor the list carefully. Please forward this as widely as possible for
> maximum awareness.
> > 
> > Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
> > p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Nov 22, 2017, at 7:45 PM, Madeline  wrote:
> >>
> >> | Telnaior|
> >> | 天火狐 |
> >> | Trigon  |
> >>
> >>
> >> | Telnaior|
> >> | 天火狐   |
> >> | Trigon  |
> >>
> >>
> >> | Telnaior|
> >> | 天火狐  |
> >> | Trigon  |
> >>
> >
>

Re: DIS: Re: URGENT! SCAM ALERT! ALL HANDS ON DECK! SCAM INCOMING! SCAM WARNING! SCAM WARNING!

2017-11-22 Thread ATMunn 

Yeah, I agree. I think PSS was just joking around, though.

On 11/22/2017 7:54 PM, Aris Merchant wrote:

Isn't it possible that e was trying to test the size of different
whitespace characters to make a report table line up? That's what it
looks like to me.

-Aris

On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 4:53 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
 wrote:

SCAM ALERT! ALL HANDS ON DECK! SCAM INCOMING! SCAM WARNING! SCAM WARNING! A 
test message contains confusing contents was received at 0:45 on November 23, 
2017. This message took the form of other similar messages that led up to 
timing scams. Please be aware that a scam may be incoming. Watch out for 
suspicious messages from this player or eir associates and scrutinize all 
messages thoroughly. Agora has recently experienced an attempted scam and this 
could be in preparation for a follow-up. Please monitor the list carefully. 
Please forward this as widely as possible for maximum awareness.

Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com




On Nov 22, 2017, at 7:45 PM, Madeline  wrote:

| Telnaior|
| 天火狐 |
| Trigon  |


| Telnaior|
| 天火狐   |
| Trigon  |


| Telnaior|
| 天火狐  |
| Trigon  |