Re: [Ai] Museum tour

2017-10-27 Thread Kanchan Pamnani via Ai
Tomorrow Saturday 28th 

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Namita Agarwal via Ai
Sent: 27 October 2017 09:19
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Cc: Namita Agarwal
Subject: Re: [Ai] Museum tour

hi kanchan is this for Saturday 28th oct or some other saturday

On 10/26/17, Kanchan Pamnani via Ai <ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in>
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> Hi
>
> Anyone in Mumbai wanting to come for the tactile tour of the museum on 
> Saturday afternoon around 3pm please let me know.
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> I don't have any details and I wont have any details until I confirm 
> the number of people coming along.
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> Kanchan
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Re: [Ai] translation from English to Marathi

2017-10-25 Thread Kanchan Pamnani via Ai
Hi 
If anyone can and has the time to translate 39 pages from English to Marathi
please do contact me off the list with your charges and the time frame. 
It would be great if the Marathi translation is typed in a Unicode font.
Thanks   
Kanchan 

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Avee Gupta via Ai
Sent: 25 October 2017 14:46
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Subject: Re: [Ai] (Ai) problem with bsnl payment portal

Dear vamshi ,
i paid my bsnl landline bill a couple of days back only.
the website is working fine and  there is no issue with login .
please feel free to contact.
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Re: [Ai] Lucknow: UP Governor Ram Naik at NAB India's event" blind people should campaign for eye-donation.

2017-09-27 Thread Kanchan Pamnani via Ai
a. The number of eye that is corneal donations in the country is uploaded
somewhere. It is quite low keeping in mind the population 
b. Out of these donations how many are transplanted and how many get wasted
or cannot be used may not be known. 
c. Out of the transplanted corneal cases how many get rejected by the
recipient and how many do not result in getting eyesight is very difficult
to count. 
Kanchan  

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k sarin via Ai
Sent: 27 September 2017 16:04
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Cc: r k sarin
Subject: Re: [Ai] Lucknow: UP Governor Ram Naik at NAB India's event" blind
people should campaign for eye-donation.

But kanchan ji, my question is as it is. I feel, may be not knowing, such
data of corneal plantation and its cure is not prepared yet.
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To: "Share, empower " 
Cc: "Kanchan" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 7:18 AM
Subject: Re: [Ai] Lucknow: UP Governor Ram Naik at NAB India's event" blind
people should campaign for eye-donation.


> It is not retinal transplant but corneal  transplant
>
> Kanchan pamnani
> Advocate and Solicitor
>
>> On 27-Sep-2017, at 06:20, r k sarin via Ai 
>>  wrote:
>>
>> Old but good message with a question do we have data about the 
>> persons being cured after the transplantation of the retina. Asking 
>> this out of curiositty as I am totally unaware of such data.
>> - Original Message - From: "avinash shahi via Ai" 
>> 
>> To: "ai" 
>> Cc: "avinash shahi" 
>> Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 1:32 PM
>> Subject: [Ai] Lucknow: UP Governor Ram Naik at NAB India's event" 
>> blind people should campaign for eye-donation.
>>
>>
>>> I wonder, if NAB representatives had posed questions to the governor 
>>> about the recent lathi-charge on blind students at DR Shakuntala 
>>> Mishra Rehabilitation University.
>>> https://m.patrika.com/news/lucknow/ram-naik-says-blind-people-run-mo
>>> re-effective-movement-1401759
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Re: [Ai] Jeevan Prakash Sharma reports: Blind student’s suicide threat: MCI asks Karnataka college to provide counselling

2017-09-27 Thread Kanchan Pamnani via Ai
Apart from the thermometer we also have talking blood pressure and diabetes 
monitors and I don’t know what else. 
That’s why I feel it is a great test case with all the caveats. 
Kanchan 

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avinash shahi via Ai
Sent: 27 September 2017 11:36
To: Share, empower 
Cc: avinash shahi
Subject: Re: [Ai] Jeevan Prakash Sharma reports: Blind student’s suicide 
threat: MCI asks Karnataka college to provide counselling

And what about the idea of accessible medical toolkit. Don't we have talking 
thermometer?


On 9/26/17, George Abraham via Ai  wrote:
> There are blind doctors working as Psychiatrists in the US.  There are 
> blind doctors working in the Indian system too.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf 
> Of avinash shahi via Ai
> Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2017 4:10 PM
> To: ai
> Cc: avinash shahi
> Subject: [Ai] Jeevan Prakash Sharma reports: Blind student’s suicide threat:
> MCI asks Karnataka college to provide counselling
>
> Dont' we have blind doctors in any of the western countries? any info?
> anyone?
> http://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/blind-student-s-suicide-threa
> t-mci-asks-karnataka-college-to-provide-counselling/story-yliQkaGBCxLv
> drOSAGywEL.html The country’s medical education regulator has asked a 
> Karnataka college to provide counselling to a second year MBBS student 
> who has threatened suicide after his admission was cancelled because 
> of a severe visual disability.
>
> The Medical Council of India (MCI) was examining if Suresh could be 
> cured though on face of it, the condition seemed incurable, an 
> official told Hindustan Times on Monday.
>
> “If so, then there is no way we can allow the student to continue MBBS 
> because our norms are very clear as far as physical disability is 
> concerned,” the official said.
>
> As reported by Hindustan Times, 19-year-old Suresh, who hails from 
> Raichur in Karnataka, can’t see beyond 8cm.
>
> He threatened suicide after the MCI found his condition too severe for 
> an aspiring doctor and cancelled his admission to the Raichur 
> Institute of Medical Sciences.
>
> He was given admission against seats set aside for disabled students.
>
> In its letter, a copy of which is with Hindustan Times, the MCI has 
> asked the college and Raichur district magistrate to handle the case 
> sensitively.
>
> The cancellation order came on June 26, 2017 after Suresh had 
> completed the first of the five years of the medical programme.
>
> MCI rules say the only disability allowed in medical colleges is of 
> the lower limbs, and a candidate has to fall under the 50%-70% 
> severity to be eligible for a reserved seat. Someone with more severe 
> condition is not eligible for admission.
>
> Parliament in December 2016 passed a bill providing 5% reservation 
> without exception to the disabled in all educational institutes.
> Suresh can’t benefit
> from the law as it came into force in April 2017, almost a year after 
> he joined the college.
>
> “…we want this matter to be settled early so that he does not waste 
> more time on a career option that is practically not possible for him to 
> pursue,”
> the MCI official said.
>
> Suresh wrote a “Notice of Death” to the MCI on August 28, detailing 
> his struggle to get into a medical college.
>
> The Kalaburagi bench of Karnataka high court, where Suresh challenged 
> the cancellation, has allowed him to continue the course till its 
> final decision, expected in February 2018.
>
> The court had earlier allowed him to sit his first year examination.
>
> When contacted, Suresh said he was determined to fulfil his childhood 
> dream of being a doctor.
> article end
>
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Re: [Ai] Jeevan Prakash Sharma reports: Blind student’s suicide threat: MCI asks Karnataka college to provide counselling

2017-09-26 Thread Kanchan Pamnani via Ai
Superb test case. If Suresh wants to be a doctor then I hope he gets good legal 
help and has plenty of patience and nerve. When we worked on Kritika's case for 
mainstream  physiotherapy we did quite a lot of research on the medical 
profession.  
The battle is long and very hard. I do feel it is winnable -if not now then in 
a few years. 
Kanchan   

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From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of 
George Abraham via Ai
Sent: 26 September 2017 17:44
To: 'Share, empower '
Cc: George Abraham
Subject: Re: [Ai] Jeevan Prakash Sharma reports: Blind student’s suicide 
threat: MCI asks Karnataka college to provide counselling

There are blind doctors working as Psychiatrists in the US.  There are blind 
doctors working in the Indian system too. 

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From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of 
avinash shahi via Ai
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2017 4:10 PM
To: ai
Cc: avinash shahi
Subject: [Ai] Jeevan Prakash Sharma reports: Blind student’s suicide threat: 
MCI asks Karnataka college to provide counselling

Dont' we have blind doctors in any of the western countries? any info? anyone?
http://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/blind-student-s-suicide-threat-mci-asks-karnataka-college-to-provide-counselling/story-yliQkaGBCxLvdrOSAGywEL.html
The country’s medical education regulator has asked a Karnataka college to 
provide counselling to a second year MBBS student who has threatened suicide 
after his admission was cancelled because of a severe visual disability.

The Medical Council of India (MCI) was examining if Suresh could be cured 
though on face of it, the condition seemed incurable, an official told 
Hindustan Times on Monday.

“If so, then there is no way we can allow the student to continue MBBS because 
our norms are very clear as far as physical disability is concerned,” the 
official said.

As reported by Hindustan Times, 19-year-old Suresh, who hails from Raichur in 
Karnataka, can’t see beyond 8cm.

He threatened suicide after the MCI found his condition too severe for an 
aspiring doctor and cancelled his admission to the Raichur Institute of Medical 
Sciences.

He was given admission against seats set aside for disabled students.

In its letter, a copy of which is with Hindustan Times, the MCI has asked the 
college and Raichur district magistrate to handle the case sensitively.

The cancellation order came on June 26, 2017 after Suresh had completed the 
first of the five years of the medical programme.

MCI rules say the only disability allowed in medical colleges is of the lower 
limbs, and a candidate has to fall under the 50%-70% severity to be eligible 
for a reserved seat. Someone with more severe condition is not eligible for 
admission.

Parliament in December 2016 passed a bill providing 5% reservation without 
exception to the disabled in all educational institutes.
Suresh can’t benefit
from the law as it came into force in April 2017, almost a year after he joined 
the college.

“…we want this matter to be settled early so that he does not waste more time 
on a career option that is practically not possible for him to pursue,” the MCI 
official said.

Suresh wrote a “Notice of Death” to the MCI on August 28, detailing his 
struggle to get into a medical college.

The Kalaburagi bench of Karnataka high court, where Suresh challenged the 
cancellation, has allowed him to continue the course till its final decision, 
expected in February 2018.

The court had earlier allowed him to sit his first year examination.

When contacted, Suresh said he was determined to fulfil his childhood dream of 
being a doctor.
article end


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Re: [Ai] Roman holiday: how Chester became the most accessible city in Europe

2017-09-26 Thread Kanchan Pamnani via Ai
NCPEDP Is working with Smart City Varanasi and we hope other NGOS can do so
with other smart cities. 
Kanchan  

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Umesh via Ai
Sent: 26 September 2017 17:36
To: Share, empower 
Cc: Umesh
Subject: Re: [Ai] Roman holiday: how Chester became the most accessible city
in Europe

Might be an interesting idea to juxtapose the 'outstanding accessible
features' of these cities with what 'smart cities' in India are offering or
promise to offer.
No?...

On 9/26/17, avinash shahi via Ai  wrote:
> For disabled people, the difference between being able to visit a 
> place and not often comes down to small details. Cities around the 
> world are taking notes from the ancient centre of Chester. Frances 
> Ryan experiences it for herself 
> https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2017/sep/20/chester-europes-most-ac
> cessible-city
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Re: [Ai] Representation to RBI for accessible Indian Currency, an update on meeting with RBI

2017-09-25 Thread Kanchan Pamnani via Ai
Bhiwani 
RBI says no cuts on paper. 
I have seen the new 10 pound note. The dots are  clear but then the note is in 
plastic and not on paper.  
Kanchan 

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bhawani shankar verma via Ai
Sent: 24 September 2017 15:19
To: Share, empower 
Cc: bhawani shankar verma
Subject: Re: [Ai] Representation to RBI for accessible Indian Currency, an 
update on meeting with RBI

braille numbers won't last longer. hence I suggest that there should be cuts of 
different shapes on the corners of notes.


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From: Misbah via Ai
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2017 12:44 PM
To: Share, empower 
Cc: Misbah
Subject: Re: [Ai] Representation to RBI for accessible Indian Currency, an 
update on meeting with RBI

Hats off to the entire team for meeting and sensitizing the RBI
officials. As someone rightly stated, it is (RBI) n only an
implementing body so we should strongly push this key concern with
Government officials and honorable Courts. In my View also the
different sizes of the notes are the more practical solution. We can
also think of embossing Braille numbers in terms of 50, 100, 200
numbers respectively at each corners of the currency bills.  In the
meanwhile, we can use different pockets of our purses for
differentiating the currency or can try to use as much as possible the
digital payment system.

On 9/23/17, P. Subramani via Ai  wrote:
> meetings with ower people of rbi and the ministry  although good will not
> get any steps forward as they are bound by certain rules, also they are 
> mere
> implementers rather than decision-makers,  the last possible option is to
> meet the finance minister to explain equovically the blind aren't able
> identify these new notes, the same should be withdrawn and restore the 
> sizes
> of old notes, even if they have  croers on new designs etc.,  its their
> headache to have come up with solutions including for the blind,  we must
> bring  this to pm's attention to find a immediate/suitable solution, or
> else,  we will be left in the dark in the use of new notes
> E-Mail:  subramani6...@gmail.com
> Mob:  9738150192
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> - Original Message -
> From: "Ketan Kothari via Ai" 
> To: "Share, empower " 
> Cc: "Ketan Kothari" 
> Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 12:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [Ai] Representation to RBI for accessible Indian Currency, an
> update on meeting with RBI
>
>
>> Dear Friends,
>>
>> Extremely good work.   I remember having participated in at least 2
>> meetings of this nature.  Unfortunately, not much has yielded.  Also,
>> the problem of coins is equally challenging and is getting worse.
>>
>> Actually, I feel that we must take up this issue with the minister of
>> finance as at a certain level, RBI is also bound by executive orders.
>>
>> With best wishes,
>>
>> Ketan
>>
>> On 9/20/17, Blind Graduates' Forum of India (BGFI) via Ai
>>  wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Here is a brief update on our meeting with RBI authorities.
>>> We had Kanchan Pamnani, Suhas Karnik, Amar Jain and myself Vishal
>>> Kumar Jain attending the meeting. First of all thanks a lot for all
>>> those who have supported with a lot of ground work and those who wrote
>>> to the authorities which enabled us have this meeting in the first
>>> place.
>>>
>>> We discussed on each of the points highlighted in the representation.
>>> The RBI team was relatively new to the subject and unfortunately they
>>> were not updated with earlier conversations on it. Overall it was a
>>> much needed discussion and the team was receptive to listen to our
>>> suggestions. However the team avoided making any commitments. Below
>>> are the key highlights:
>>> 1. The longest conversation was on size variation which remains a
>>> major issue. If RBI goes ahead with their plan, the size variation of
>>> notes will come down from 10mm to around 4mm with the introduction of
>>> new Rs. 100, Rs. 20 and Rs. 10 notes. More over the width of all the
>>> notes is expected to be the same (66mm). This will make it close to
>>> impossible for us to identify the notes. While the team understood our
>>> concerns, they expressed their own challenge of maintaining variation
>>> due to reduction in overall size of the notes.
>>> 2. The team was taken aback to understand that the bleed line and
>>> tactile markings are not perceivable. They accepted the fact and
>>> confirmed to prioritize on finding a solution to make it perceivable.
>>> They also expressed technical challenges in making it happen.
>>> 3. Inputs on low vision friendly features was welcomed and they plan
>>> to continue with contrast color, color variation, font size, etc.
>>> 4. Fake notes issue was acknowledge and they thought of focusing on
>>> perceptible tactile markings and keeping 

Re: [Ai] Representation to RBI for accessible Indian Currency, an update on meeting with RBI

2017-09-22 Thread Kanchan Pamnani via Ai
Case is pending. RBI has filed a reply. Finance Ministry has been sent a 
notice. Next date 30 or 31 October 2017. 
Don’t know anything about theCommittee. 
Kanchan  

-Original Message-
From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of 
avinash shahi via Ai
Sent: 22 September 2017 14:16
To: Share, empower 
Cc: avinash shahi
Subject: Re: [Ai] Representation to RBI for accessible Indian Currency, an 
update on meeting with RBI

I'm interested to know the outcome of the case filed by the NAB Mumbai in the 
Bombay HC against the government and the RBI. And what has happened to the 
committee constituted by the Finance Ministry two years ago to look into the 
issue of accessible currency.


On 9/22/17, George Abraham via Ai  wrote:
> Do you think we should file a case with the Court?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf 
> Of Ketan Kothari via Ai
> Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 12:08 PM
> To: Share, empower 
> Cc: Ketan Kothari
> Subject: Re: [Ai] Representation to RBI for accessible Indian 
> Currency, an update on meeting with RBI
>
> Dear Friends,
>
> Extremely good work.   I remember having participated in at least 2
> meetings of this nature.  Unfortunately, not much has yielded.  Also, 
> the problem of coins is equally challenging and is getting worse.
>
> Actually, I feel that we must take up this issue with the minister of 
> finance as at a certain level, RBI is also bound by executive orders.
>
> With best wishes,
>
> Ketan
>
> On 9/20/17, Blind Graduates' Forum of India (BGFI) via Ai 
>  wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Here is a brief update on our meeting with RBI authorities.
>> We had Kanchan Pamnani, Suhas Karnik, Amar Jain and myself Vishal 
>> Kumar Jain attending the meeting. First of all thanks a lot for all 
>> those who have supported with a lot of ground work and those who 
>> wrote to the authorities which enabled us have this meeting in the 
>> first place.
>>
>> We discussed on each of the points highlighted in the representation.
>> The RBI team was relatively new to the subject and unfortunately they 
>> were not updated with earlier conversations on it. Overall it was a 
>> much needed discussion and the team was receptive to listen to our 
>> suggestions. However the team avoided making any commitments. Below 
>> are the key highlights:
>> 1.   The longest conversation was on size variation which remains a
>> major issue. If RBI goes ahead with their plan, the size variation of 
>> notes will come down from 10mm to around 4mm with the introduction of 
>> new Rs. 100, Rs. 20 and Rs. 10 notes. More over the width of all the 
>> notes is expected to be the same (66mm). This will make it close to 
>> impossible for us to identify the notes. While the team understood 
>> our concerns, they expressed their own challenge of maintaining 
>> variation due to reduction in overall size of the notes.
>> 2.   The team was taken aback to understand that the bleed line and
>> tactile markings are not perceivable. They accepted the fact and 
>> confirmed to prioritize on finding a solution to make it perceivable.
>> They also expressed technical challenges in making it happen.
>> 3.   Inputs on low vision friendly features was welcomed and they plan
>> to continue with contrast color, color variation, font size, etc.
>> 4.   Fake notes issue was acknowledge and they thought of focusing on
>> perceptible tactile markings and keeping the texture of notes 
>> different from normal paper.
>> 5.   The team confirmed to pass on inputs related to issues other than
>> currency notes to relevant departments and discussion on accessible 
>> websites and apps was in brief.
>> 6.   Most importantly we discovered that RBI had interactions with NGOs
>> and teams like us in the past. However the inputs and suggestions 
>> have not been valued given the fact they have gone ahead with lower 
>> size variation and unperceivable tactile markings in the new notes.
>>
>> So on the whole the meeting was productive in sensitizing the team on 
>> our needs. At the same time it doesn’t assure of our issues getting 
>> sufficiently addressed any time soon. Unless we intensify our voice 
>> and raise the issue on all possible forums, we will end up having 
>> notes with very little size variation making it highly inaccessible.
>> We will continue our effort on this. However we would need more 
>> active involvement from each of you and your network to really get 
>> them to act on our suggestions.
>>
>> Thanks and regards,
>> Team BGFI.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 9/18/17, Blind Graduates' Forum of India (BGFI) 
>>  wrote:
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> Please find below the representation that we intend to share and 
>>> discuss with RBI during our meeting in person. Have incorporate 
>>> recommendations considering short term and long term needs of 
>>> 

Re: [Ai] Representation to RBI for accessible Indian Currency, an update on meeting with RBI

2017-09-22 Thread Kanchan Pamnani via Ai
George NAB I  had filed a case prior to the new notes and the case is still 
pending. Thinking about intervening but need to build up support and lots of 
material. Vishal is leading this initiative for BGFI and we are and have to 
support it. Will require your active   participation  when the campaign builds 
up. 
Shireen-Dialogue has been happening for 8 years since I have been involved. 
Based on Asif's email dialogue has been happening for more than 10 years. RBI 
is also consulting the right people/organisations but  At the meeting held 
on 19th Sept I discovered that the current team had not read the notes prepared 
by the earlier officials nor had they bothered to read the replies they had 
received from NGOS. Luckily I had a lot of the material. So consulting is a 
must but listening and implementing the suggestions is crucial.  Therefore the 
need for this fight.  
Vasu this fight has to be every day not every month. We don’t have time. The 
difference between the new Rs. 50 note and theRs. 200 note is very little. The 
probable Rs. 100 note is going to be in between these 2. We have a disaster in 
the making. It is too serious a matter for us not to work on this one issue 
till we win. 
RBI officials are very polite and helpful and very sensitive to our needs but 
on the ground the reality is simple -we have a major problem and one that will 
continue for a long time unless we rise for our rights. 
Kanchan 

-Original Message-
From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of 
George Abraham via Ai
Sent: 22 September 2017 13:40
To: 'Share, empower '
Cc: George Abraham
Subject: Re: [Ai] Representation to RBI for accessible Indian Currency, an 
update on meeting with RBI

Do you think we should file a case with the Court?

-Original Message-
From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of Ketan 
Kothari via Ai
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 12:08 PM
To: Share, empower 
Cc: Ketan Kothari
Subject: Re: [Ai] Representation to RBI for accessible Indian Currency, an 
update on meeting with RBI

Dear Friends,

Extremely good work.   I remember having participated in at least 2
meetings of this nature.  Unfortunately, not much has yielded.  Also, the 
problem of coins is equally challenging and is getting worse.

Actually, I feel that we must take up this issue with the minister of finance 
as at a certain level, RBI is also bound by executive orders.

With best wishes,

Ketan

On 9/20/17, Blind Graduates' Forum of India (BGFI) via Ai 
 wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Here is a brief update on our meeting with RBI authorities.
> We had Kanchan Pamnani, Suhas Karnik, Amar Jain and myself Vishal 
> Kumar Jain attending the meeting. First of all thanks a lot for all 
> those who have supported with a lot of ground work and those who wrote 
> to the authorities which enabled us have this meeting in the first 
> place.
>
> We discussed on each of the points highlighted in the representation.
> The RBI team was relatively new to the subject and unfortunately they 
> were not updated with earlier conversations on it. Overall it was a 
> much needed discussion and the team was receptive to listen to our 
> suggestions. However the team avoided making any commitments. Below 
> are the key highlights:
> 1.The longest conversation was on size variation which remains a
> major issue. If RBI goes ahead with their plan, the size variation of 
> notes will come down from 10mm to around 4mm with the introduction of 
> new Rs. 100, Rs. 20 and Rs. 10 notes. More over the width of all the 
> notes is expected to be the same (66mm). This will make it close to 
> impossible for us to identify the notes. While the team understood our 
> concerns, they expressed their own challenge of maintaining variation 
> due to reduction in overall size of the notes.
> 2.The team was taken aback to understand that the bleed line and
> tactile markings are not perceivable. They accepted the fact and 
> confirmed to prioritize on finding a solution to make it perceivable.
> They also expressed technical challenges in making it happen.
> 3.Inputs on low vision friendly features was welcomed and they plan
> to continue with contrast color, color variation, font size, etc.
> 4.Fake notes issue was acknowledge and they thought of focusing on
> perceptible tactile markings and keeping the texture of notes 
> different from normal paper.
> 5.The team confirmed to pass on inputs related to issues other than
> currency notes to relevant departments and discussion on accessible 
> websites and apps was in brief.
> 6.Most importantly we discovered that RBI had interactions with NGOs
> and teams like us in the past. However the inputs and suggestions have 
> not been valued given the fact they have gone ahead with lower size 
> variation and unperceivable tactile markings in the new notes.
>
> So on the whole the meeting was 

Re: [Ai] [DKIM Failure] Re: Pl highlight accessible currency issue in Man Ki Bath

2017-09-20 Thread Kanchan Pamnani via Ai
Just finished doing it. Kanchan 

 

From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of
Kotian, H P via Ai
Sent: 20 September 2017 15:19
To: Share, empower 
Cc: Kotian, H P
Subject: Re: [Ai] [DKIM Failure] Re: Pl highlight accessible currency issue
in Man Ki Bath

 

Hi

It works only on mobile. So, pl try on it.

Harish.

 

 

From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of
Surinder via Ai
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2017 3:01 PM
To: Share, empower   >
Cc: Surinder  >
Subject: [DKIM Failure] Re: [Ai] Pl highlight accessible currency issue in
Man Ki Bath

 

 

 

The number is not a valid number Pls provide correct number.

- Original Message - 

From: Kotian, H P via Ai   

To: Share, empower    

Cc: Kotian, H P   

Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2017 12:00 PM

Subject: [Ai] Pl highlight accessible currency issue in Man Ki Bath

 

All

 

BGFI team, would appraise the list, regarding, yesterday's meeting with RBI.

However, there is lots of work for us to do and we need to pick up every
channel to make ourselves heard.

We need to now call up Man-Ki-Bath toll free number and tell how these new
notes has created problem to us in our own ways. The number is 1800117800.
This has to be done latest 20 Sept today.

 

Pl join in large numbers and ask everyone you know to speak on this.

Harish Kotian.

 

 


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Re: [Ai] Restrict discussion on the NAB Delhi incident

2017-09-12 Thread Kanchan Pamnani via Ai
en handled in most professional manner. Even when kids didn't 
feel it was any abuse, the organisation has taken a right step of registering 
an FIR and bringing the culprit to book. We all need to standby them to see 
that law take its course and case is followed up till it reaches its logical 
conclusion!

 

Regards

 

Subhash Chandra Vashishth

Advocate

 

On 07-Sep-2017 9:40 PM, "Dipendra Manocha via Ai" 
<ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in <mailto:ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in> 
> wrote:

Do you really feel that children should be facing  mainstream media in such 
cases?

 

The media itself is more sensitive than what is been said here. They themselves 
know that they are not supposed to be speaking to minors and putting them 
through  any such humiliations.

 

Please stop spreading rumors based on so called reliable sources or baseless 
allegations being leveled by  an individuals on any unverifiable public forums. 

 

Knowingly or unknowingly, such unfounded loose talk may help the offenders and 
weaken our fight against them.

 

Be rest assured that  as result of investigations, if anyone is found guilty, 
will have the face the consequences.

 

Thanks

Dipendra

 

 

From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in 
<mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in> ] On Behalf Of r k sarin 
via Ai
Sent: 07 September 2017 19:29
To: Share, empower  <ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in 
<mailto:ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in> >
Cc: r k sarin <no2illiter...@gmail.com <mailto:no2illiter...@gmail.com> >
Subject: Re: [Ai] Restrict discussion on the NAB Delhi incident

 

We have come to know some reliable sources that the students are disallowing to 
contact media.

- Original Message - 

From: Kanchan Pamnani via Ai <mailto:ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in>  

To: 'Share, empower  <mailto:ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in> ' 

Cc: Kanchan Pamnani <mailto:kanchanpamn...@gmail.com>  

Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 6:52 PM

Subject: Re: [Ai] Restrict discussion on the NAB Delhi incident

 

Sarinji 

I  do not think the discussion should be closed. Even if we close it on 
accessindia the press will still carry it and Avinash and others will copy it 
for us. 

I however think that the reporting to the police has been a good step. 

I also think that my advice to Prashant that  he must track the matter is sound 
advice.NAB Delhi is going to be harassed by many and we in the sector must 
atleast criticise only after knowing facts.

Now the next set of problems who will you protect the kids from and to what 
extent?

Avinash has listed out a few recent incidents.There are many more.  

Who do you trust- Trustees, management,staff, family members,  volunteers, 
politicians,police,  seniors  from the same sex or from the opposite sex. 
Everyone can be suspect and we have to guard against everyone. These crimes 
donot get committed completely by one person. Therefore I had mentioned an 
insider accomplice.   Management cannot be blamed unless it is directly 
involved. If management has taken precaution as much as a prudent man would 
have then we cannot blame management.  

In many cases the parties have hushed up matters –this is detrimental to 
everyone.

But blaming anyone before investigation is over is wrong. 

Kanchan 

 

From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of r k 
sarin via Ai
Sent: 07 September 2017 14:53
To: Share, empower 
Cc: r k sarin
Subject: Re: [Ai] Restrict discussion on the NAB Delhi incident

 

Kanchan ji, do you think that this superfluous approach will help NAB and its 
institutions in a longer run. Why not to talk about the dilemma of the 
NGOs--services vs. management of funds. purely person outlook.

 

R.K. Sarin

- Original Message - 

From: Kanchan Pamnani via Ai <mailto:ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in>  

To: 'Share, empower  <mailto:ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in> ' 

Cc: Kanchan Pamnani <mailto:kanchanpamn...@gmail.com>  

Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2017 6:14 PM

Subject: Re: [Ai] Restrict discussion on the NAB Delhi incident

 

Prashant, 

Most NGOs hide such incidents therefore we are proud of you for taking the 
right steps.  

Maybe other NGOs will learn and our faith in the system will be revived. 

 

Incidents like this happen unfortunately. You can tighten your security etc but 
this can happen again. 

Much harassment will be doled out to the alleged accused but the same 
harassment will be doled out in greater measure to your organisation and its 
staff and members first. Unfortunately this is how the legal system works in 
India.

Please keep a track of the matter because if you don’t the matter will slip 
under the carpet. This  will take some time to end. 

You will need to track the police.

Many in this group have a connection direct or indirect with NAB Delhi and 
would like to k

Re: [Ai] Restrict discussion on the NAB Delhi incident

2017-09-11 Thread Kanchan Pamnani via Ai
An incident must be reported as soon as practicable. Late reporting
sometimes is fatal to a case. However what is late is  dependend on the
situation. I have read one case where even  though a rape was reported after
2 months the case proceeded and the accused was held guilty. 

We cannot derive negative inferences from the fact that this particular
incident was reported after 24 hours. We don't know the circumstances and
speculation on this ground is worthless. 24 hours is normally not fatal to a
case. Lets drop this one point. 

Kanchan  

 

 

From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of r
k sarin via Ai
Sent: 09 September 2017 20:56
To: Share, empower 
Cc: r k sarin
Subject: Re: [Ai] Restrict discussion on the NAB Delhi incident

 

Kanchan ji, as a lawyer, please tell me what is the implicattion of
reporting a mattter after 24 hours and what is its implication. Even if you
just tell legal position, I will be highly obliged.

- Original Message - 

From: Kanchan Pamnani via Ai <mailto:ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in>  

To: 'Share, empower  <mailto:ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in> ' 

Cc: Kanchan Pamnani <mailto:kanchanpamn...@gmail.com>  

Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 6:52 PM

Subject: Re: [Ai] Restrict discussion on the NAB Delhi incident

 

Sarinji 

I  do not think the discussion should be closed. Even if we close it on
accessindia the press will still carry it and Avinash and others will copy
it for us. 

I however think that the reporting to the police has been a good step. 

I also think that my advice to Prashant that  he must track the matter is
sound advice.NAB Delhi is going to be harassed by many and we in the sector
must atleast criticise only after knowing facts.

Now the next set of problems who will you protect the kids from and to what
extent?

Avinash has listed out a few recent incidents.There are many more.  

Who do you trust- Trustees, management,staff, family members,  volunteers,
politicians,police,  seniors  from the same sex or from the opposite sex.
Everyone can be suspect and we have to guard against everyone. These crimes
donot get committed completely by one person. Therefore I had mentioned an
insider accomplice.   Management cannot be blamed unless it is directly
involved. If management has taken precaution as much as a prudent man would
have then we cannot blame management.  

In many cases the parties have hushed up matters -this is detrimental to
everyone.

But blaming anyone before investigation is over is wrong. 

Kanchan 

 

From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of r
k sarin via Ai
Sent: 07 September 2017 14:53
To: Share, empower 
Cc: r k sarin
Subject: Re: [Ai] Restrict discussion on the NAB Delhi incident

 

Kanchan ji, do you think that this superfluous approach will help NAB and
its institutions in a longer run. Why not to talk about the dilemma of the
NGOs--services vs. management of funds. purely person outlook.

 

R.K. Sarin

- Original Message ----- 

From: Kanchan Pamnani via Ai <mailto:ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in>  

To: 'Share, empower  <mailto:ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in> ' 

Cc: Kanchan Pamnani <mailto:kanchanpamn...@gmail.com>  

Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2017 6:14 PM

Subject: Re: [Ai] Restrict discussion on the NAB Delhi incident

 

Prashant, 

Most NGOs hide such incidents therefore we are proud of you for taking the
right steps.  

Maybe other NGOs will learn and our faith in the system will be revived. 

 

Incidents like this happen unfortunately. You can tighten your security etc
but this can happen again. 

Much harassment will be doled out to the alleged accused but the same
harassment will be doled out in greater measure to your organisation and its
staff and members first. Unfortunately this is how the legal system works in
India.

Please keep a track of the matter because if you don't the matter will slip
under the carpet. This  will take some time to end. 

You will need to track the police.

Many in this group have a connection direct or indirect with NAB Delhi and
would like to keep a track of the  newspaper reports etc. 

Yes no names must or should be revealed. 

 

We are with you please go the whole hog even if there is someone from inside
who is going to be implicated as an accomplice.

Kanchan   

 

From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of
Prashant Ranjan Verma via Ai
Sent: 06 September 2017 09:54
To: 'Harish Kotian via Ai'
Cc: Prashant Ranjan Verma
Subject: [Ai] Restrict discussion on the NAB Delhi incident

 

Dear Harish,

The incident reported in the newspapers and by Radio Udaan is under the
POCSO act where peple are forbidden to reveal anything which  could lead to
the identity of the victims. 

The way peple discuss things on the AI list, I am afraid it could invite
legal action  by the police. 

So, please do not allow this to

Re: [Ai] Restrict discussion on the NAB Delhi incident

2017-09-07 Thread Kanchan Pamnani via Ai
Sarinji 

I  do not think the discussion should be closed. Even if we close it on
accessindia the press will still carry it and Avinash and others will copy
it for us. 

I however think that the reporting to the police has been a good step. 

I also think that my advice to Prashant that  he must track the matter is
sound advice.NAB Delhi is going to be harassed by many and we in the sector
must atleast criticise only after knowing facts.

Now the next set of problems who will you protect the kids from and to what
extent?

Avinash has listed out a few recent incidents.There are many more.  

Who do you trust- Trustees, management,staff, family members,  volunteers,
politicians,police,  seniors  from the same sex or from the opposite sex.
Everyone can be suspect and we have to guard against everyone. These crimes
donot get committed completely by one person. Therefore I had mentioned an
insider accomplice.   Management cannot be blamed unless it is directly
involved. If management has taken precaution as much as a prudent man would
have then we cannot blame management.  

In many cases the parties have hushed up matters -this is detrimental to
everyone.

But blaming anyone before investigation is over is wrong. 

Kanchan 

 

From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of r
k sarin via Ai
Sent: 07 September 2017 14:53
To: Share, empower 
Cc: r k sarin
Subject: Re: [Ai] Restrict discussion on the NAB Delhi incident

 

Kanchan ji, do you think that this superfluous approach will help NAB and
its institutions in a longer run. Why not to talk about the dilemma of the
NGOs--services vs. management of funds. purely person outlook.

 

R.K. Sarin

- Original Message - 

From: Kanchan Pamnani via Ai <mailto:ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in>  

To: 'Share, empower  <mailto:ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in> ' 

Cc: Kanchan Pamnani <mailto:kanchanpamn...@gmail.com>  

Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2017 6:14 PM

Subject: Re: [Ai] Restrict discussion on the NAB Delhi incident

 

Prashant, 

Most NGOs hide such incidents therefore we are proud of you for taking the
right steps.  

Maybe other NGOs will learn and our faith in the system will be revived. 

 

Incidents like this happen unfortunately. You can tighten your security etc
but this can happen again. 

Much harassment will be doled out to the alleged accused but the same
harassment will be doled out in greater measure to your organisation and its
staff and members first. Unfortunately this is how the legal system works in
India.

Please keep a track of the matter because if you don't the matter will slip
under the carpet. This  will take some time to end. 

You will need to track the police.

Many in this group have a connection direct or indirect with NAB Delhi and
would like to keep a track of the  newspaper reports etc. 

Yes no names must or should be revealed. 

 

We are with you please go the whole hog even if there is someone from inside
who is going to be implicated as an accomplice.

Kanchan   

 

From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of
Prashant Ranjan Verma via Ai
Sent: 06 September 2017 09:54
To: 'Harish Kotian via Ai'
Cc: Prashant Ranjan Verma
Subject: [Ai] Restrict discussion on the NAB Delhi incident

 

Dear Harish,

The incident reported in the newspapers and by Radio Udaan is under the
POCSO act where peple are forbidden to reveal anything which  could lead to
the identity of the victims. 

The way peple discuss things on the AI list, I am afraid it could invite
legal action  by the police. 

So, please do not allow this to go through. I am ofcourse availableto
answer fquestions on phone or personal email.

Yesterday Radio Udaan has done a very disturbing show on this already and
they got  lot of complains already. 

 

Thanks,

 

Prashant Verma 

 

Creating the Best way to Read and Publish

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Re: [Ai] Official statement of Radioudaan pertaining to the discussion on latest incident in Nab Delhi

2017-09-07 Thread Kanchan Pamnani via Ai
Amit 
Only one technical correction for you-
When like in this case the police has arrested or someone has said a crime has 
occurred the person who  is supposed to have committed the crime is called "The 
Accused" He is presumed innocent until guilty. 
In the other case which we were discussing last week-rape of a blind woman, The 
court had held the man guilty of committing a crime therefore "a criminal". 
Even this is not finished the man may have appealed and may be acquitted as 
innocent or the lower court order confirmed and therefore a criminal. This 
story ends when he stops appealing or the Supreme Court finally decides.  
Thought I should clarify the difference.   

Don’t know anything about the show so not commenting. 
Kanchan   
-Original Message-
From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of Amit 
Bhatt via Ai
Sent: 07 September 2017 15:57
To: Share, empower 
Cc: Amit Bhatt
Subject: Re: [Ai] Official statement of Radioudaan pertaining to the discussion 
on latest incident in Nab Delhi

Dear Danish and Radio Udaan,

Why don't you expose the person and Organization who has threaten you over the 
phone for conducting the show on Radio.
This is a serious matter and needs more focus as threatening over the phone is 
itself a crime.

I am surprised indirectly some people are trying to make other bloggers of this 
list afraid by giving legal worning and refraining the discussion as a whole.

Radio Udaan has also revealed many positive and good things about various NGO's 
in previously broadcasted shows, why those organizations have not raised any 
question then and why Radio Udaan was not rewarded for that work if today we 
are talking about the legal actions to be taken against a media mode like Radio 
udaan.

Every matter for every indivisual or group is sensitive and couple of weeks 
back a large number of the subscriber of this list have discussed an issue 
related to rape by ablind accused, why this discussion was not interupted? 
Was that matter not sensitive for the said accused?
How we can be selective about what sensitive matter is to be discussed or what 
not.

Let's try to resolve every issue by accepting the pits and falls and do not try 
to divert from the main cause of concern

And please also do not try to stop the voices in the name of legal worning. 
The doors of law are open to everyone and lawyers are available to every 
citizen of India.

this entire issue was already brought under public domain by various media 
channels.

It would have been nice if one could simply say that we are working towards 
this matter and we would require the support from all of you but unfortunately 
some members are being threaten or worned. This is not a right message.

This would be my final message unless we receive any unsolicited or threatening 
response.

Thanks,

Amit Bhatt
- Original Message -
From: "Radio Udaan via Ai" 
To: "ai" 
Cc: "Radio Udaan" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 6:29 PM
Subject: [Ai] Official statement of Radioudaan pertaining to the discussion on 
latest incident in Nab Delhi


> Official statement of Radioudaan pertaining to the discussion on 
> latest incident in Nab Delhi Dear all, Greetings from Radio Udaan We, 
> radioudaan, a disability community radio work only and only for 
> community and talk about improving the conditions of brothers and 
> sisters in the community. Recently we had conducted a discussion on 
> the molestation case which took place in NAB, Delhi. Since there are 
> so many rumors which r floating around and in this regard we have come 
> up with our official statement to clear the air. We have got many 
> feedback with respect to the discussion we had last evening and many r 
> very happy to see us raise this topic as best as we could. On the 
> other hand also we got many complaints from many organizations who r 
> very disturbed with our reporting. Also a few individuals also 
> complained on the coverage.
> Radio Udaan is a very responsible station and we take full 
> responsibility on our coverage. We quote Mr. Prashant Ranjan Verma who 
> has written the following statement on a social platform., (The 
> incident reported in the newspapers and by Radio Udaan is under the 
> POCSO act where people are forbidden to reveal anything which could 
> lead to the Identity of the victims.
> The way people discuss things on the AI list, I am afraid it could 
> invite legal action by the police.
> So, please do not allow this to go through. I am of course available 
> to answer questions on phone or personal email.
> Yesterday Radio Udaan has done a very disturbing show on this already 
> and they got lot of complains already.
> Thanks,
> Prashant Verma)
>
> We would also like to clarify that we take full responsibility and are 
> ready to face any legal action with regards to our show. As far as the 
> 

Re: [Ai] Restrict discussion on the NAB Delhi incident

2017-09-06 Thread Kanchan Pamnani via Ai
Prashant, 

Most NGOs hide such incidents therefore we are proud of you for taking the
right steps.  

Maybe other NGOs will learn and our faith in the system will be revived. 

 

Incidents like this happen unfortunately. You can tighten your security etc
but this can happen again. 

Much harassment will be doled out to the alleged accused but the same
harassment will be doled out in greater measure to your organisation and its
staff and members first. Unfortunately this is how the legal system works in
India.

Please keep a track of the matter because if you don't the matter will slip
under the carpet. This  will take some time to end. 

You will need to track the police.

Many in this group have a connection direct or indirect with NAB Delhi and
would like to keep a track of the  newspaper reports etc. 

Yes no names must or should be revealed. 

 

We are with you please go the whole hog even if there is someone from inside
who is going to be implicated as an accomplice.

Kanchan   

 

From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of
Prashant Ranjan Verma via Ai
Sent: 06 September 2017 09:54
To: 'Harish Kotian via Ai'
Cc: Prashant Ranjan Verma
Subject: [Ai] Restrict discussion on the NAB Delhi incident

 

Dear Harish,

The incident reported in the newspapers and by Radio Udaan is under the
POCSO act where peple are forbidden to reveal anything which  could lead to
the identity of the victims. 

The way peple discuss things on the AI list, I am afraid it could invite
legal action  by the police. 

So, please do not allow this to go through. I am ofcourse availableto
answer fquestions on phone or personal email.

Yesterday Radio Udaan has done a very disturbing show on this already and
they got  lot of complains already. 

 

Thanks,

 

Prashant Verma 

 

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  http://www.daisy.org   

 

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Re: [Ai] [DKIM Failure] Re: Campaign for accessible Indian currency for the blind, sharing ready made letters for you

2017-09-06 Thread Kanchan Pamnani via Ai
Please take all routes. 
Change.org
Emails 
Twitter
Facebook 
Hardcopy letters
Press 
Lobbying 
Bombarding the Niti ayog, my Gov, PM, PMO, President, RBI etc 
All are good campaign strategies. 

So instead of excluding this or that and wasting time debating on which method 
is the best lets go for all. I will also tell you that in the past we have 
individually written to our parliamentarians who have not been aware until we 
have written to them. 
Lets only have a central place where we can keep a count of what is going on 
and how many are affected. Keep copies and send them to this central place.  

Please lets do our bit so that we can win. 
Court is not the final solution but it is one more step in the strategy.
Kanchan   
 

-Original Message-
From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of 
Kotian, H P via Ai
Sent: 05 September 2017 16:43
To: Share, empower 
Cc: Kotian, H P
Subject: Re: [Ai] [DKIM Failure] Re: Campaign for accessible Indian currency 
for the blind, sharing ready made letters for you

Hi
There are some risks, taking the change.org route. This issue is very vital to 
the entire visually disabled community, it can't be left to it.

In case, if the legal option is to be pursued, it may not be admissible as 
evidence.

Harish.
 
-Original Message-
From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of gatak 
singh via Ai
Sent: Tuesday, September 5, 2017 3:29 PM
To: Share, empower  
Cc: gatak singh ; list ; 
accessindia 
Subject: [DKIM Failure] Re: [Ai] Campaign for accessible Indian currency for 
the blind, sharing ready made letters for you

people are so lazy to sign the petition on change.org, which they can do by 
just clicking on the link. in this case, I wonder how many of them will print 
the letter, put their signature to it, scan it again, and email it. bringing a 
post card and sending a letter is much more lengthy process. please make it 
more easier.

On 9/2/17, Sana Samad via Ai  wrote:
> Will definately mail the letter to authorities. But I am unable to 
> find the link of letter. Please send it so that I can download it and 
> do the neatfull.
> Regards
> Sana Samad
>
> On 9/1/17, Blind Graduates' Forum of India (BGFI) via Ai 
>  wrote:
>> Dear all,
>>
>> You must have noted the mail from Blind Graduates Forum of India on 
>> the action plan to make a unified effort for accessible Indian 
>> currency for the blind. Thank you for your suggestions and interest.
>> Here is the first step, which is sensitizing the Indian leadership 
>> for which all of us can contribute. Remember the authorities are 
>> likely to consider only if they receive hundreds of letters and mails.
>> Therefore, it is essential that all of us as individuals and 
>> organizations contribute by investing a few valuable minutes.
>>
>> To make it simple for you, we have drafted 3 letters (one each for 
>> Prime minister, Prime minister’s Office and RBI Governor). It is all 
>> ready made for you to use. Please follow the below mentioned steps:
>> 1.   Download the zip file which has 3 letters from the link given below
>> 2.   Ad / type your name and credentials at the end of each of the letters.
>> 3.   Take a printout and remember to put your signatures on all the letters.
>> 4.   Send the letters to the three postal address provided below.
>> 5.   Copy the content of the letter and send separate emails to the
>> email IDs and grievance link provided below.
>>
>> Here is the link to download the letters:
>>
>>
>> Below are the 3 postal addresses:
>> 1.   Honorable Prime Minister of India
>> 7 Race Course Road
>> New Delhi-110011.
>>
>> 2.   Honorable Prime Minister of India
>> Web Information Manager
>> South Block, Raisina Hill
>> New Delhi-110011.
>>
>> 3.   Dr. Urjit R Patel
>> Governor
>> Reserve Bank of India
>> Shaheed Bhaghatsingh Road
>> Mumbai-41.
>>
>> Apart from sending the letter by post, it is essential also to send 
>> the request by mail. The mails can also be used as evidence in the 
>> court to prove that the blind people across the country need 
>> accessible Indian currency, in case required. So it will be good if 
>> you could mark BGFI in CC for records.
>>
>> Below are the email IDs:
>> 1.   RBI
>> urjitpa...@rbi.org.in, gover...@rbi.org.in Copy the mail to BGFI on 
>> contact.b...@gmail.com
>>
>> 2.   Prime minister’s Office
>> conn...@mygov.nic.in
>> CC the mail to BGFI on
>> contact.b...@gmail.com
>>
>> 3.   Send your message as grievance to the Prime minister by pasting the
>> letter content in the below online form. This is also monitered 
>> separately.
>> http://www.pmindia.gov.in/en/interact-with-honble-pm/
>>
>>
>> Feel free to change the content of the letters if you wish to 
>> improvise. Let us know in case of 

Re: [Ai] Abilities Redefined - Forty Life Stories of Courage and Accomplishment

2017-09-03 Thread Kanchan Pamnani via Ai
I think there is a pdf or word version available.
It is 12 years old. Many more have achieved a lot in these 12  years.  
When the book came out I was truly inspired as I knew a few of the achievers  
but I didn’t know all their achievements and I also got to know many more 
achievers.
Kanchan   
-Original Message-
From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of 
Chirag Mittal via Ai
Sent: 03 September 2017 15:12
To: Share, empower 
Cc: Chirag Mittal
Subject: Re: [Ai] Abilities Redefined - Forty Life Stories of Courage and 
Accomplishment

The wonderful book it is & it showcase the abilities of differently ables 
blinds.It took a lot of time while listening track by track in chrome.Please 
mail me link to download it completely or send me downloded copy at 
chiragmittal...@gmail.com I shall also make it listen to my blind students and 
contacts.

On 9/2/17, Arun Kumar Dua via Ai  wrote:
> Dear friends Disha NGO – The Harbinger of Social Change and 
> Development is glad to present the Audio version of the compilation of 
> short biographical notes on Forty Blind Achievers; which include many 
> on this mailing list
> like: Pranav Lal, Kanchan Pamnani, Geethavani Shamanna, Garimella 
> Subramaniam, L. Subramani, Nafisa Parvez Buhariwala, Parimala Vishnu 
> Bhat, S. Tarsem and our own Harish KumarP.Kotian – Moderator of Access 
> India mailing list; besides several others. The compilation was 
> published by the All India Confederation of Blind during its silver jubilee.
>
> The book – is edited by Mukta Aneja & Eyeway Team
>
> Editorial Board: A.K. Mittal -- Consulting Editor: J.L. Kaul, George 
> Abraham -- Editors
>
> Audio Presentation by: Shivangi Sharma and Rani Kochar
>
> To Download and Play click the link:
> http://ourcivilsociety.com/audio-books-abilities-redefined-fourty-life
> -stories-of-courage-and-accomplishment/
>
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[Ai] FW: [IDA_CRPD_Forum] support for disabled and diverse people transtioning to university

2017-08-19 Thread Kanchan Pamnani via Ai
 

 

From: ida_crpd_fo...@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ida_crpd_fo...@yahoogroups.com] 
Sent: 10 August 2017 16:21
To: ida_crpd_fo...@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [IDA_CRPD_Forum] support for disabled and diverse people transtioning 
to university

 

  



 

The *AccessAbility initiative is a disability and diversity (includes dyslexia 
and autistic spectrums; mental health difficulties; and long-term health 
conditions) focused initiative at the University of Greenwich which provides 
information and guidance to disabled and diverse students who are considering a 
university education. The initiative began in August 2007 and has continued to 
evolve to meet the needs of the students we work with and has resulted in 
STAART (Support Through *AccessAbility: Retention and Transition). The main 
method of support is peer support, and all of our *AccessAbility Ambassadors 
have a disability or diversity themselves which enables us to have Disabled 
Peoples’ Organisation (DPO) status.

The STAART initiative has been available since August 2016 for  disabled and 
diverse students who have accepted a place on any of our campuses, or are local 
(London, Kent, Medway and Essex) disabled students who are considering 
university in the future (from Year  11 onwards).This also includes 
international students, either coming to Greenwich to study or who are studying 
in their home country for a Greenwich qualification. Although we have never 
turned away a student who has requested to join.

What support is available for prospective students?

 

The STAART initiative has a variety of support mechanisms in place and 
participants (STAARTers) can opt to take part in any or all of the following: 

* Access to the open STAART  Facebook group

* Access to the STAART  Twitter account.

* Access to the closed Facebook group (Greenwich students only)

* Access to the STAART WhatsApp group (Greenwich students only)

* Workshops on campus (should be available as webinars from September 
2017).

* External events and catch ups.

* Specialist induction days – April and September

 

What do I need to do to join STAART?

 

You will need to complete a booking form, the link can be found here:  
 http://gre.ac.uk/aap.

You will then be contacted via email by one of the *AccessAbility Ambassadors 
and welcomed officially. 

 

Alternatively, if you are interested in all things disability and higher 
education, you are very welcome to join our open Facebook or Twitter. We 
already have prospective and current disabled students (from across the world), 
disabled graduates, researchers and practitioners as members and we are hoping 
to grow the open Facebook group as a global community of practice:  
 
https://www.facebook.com/groups/295392264140831/?ref=bookmarks. 

The Twitter account is mainly for people who do not use Facebook: @GRE_STAART

feel free to share

If you have any queries regarding STAART, please contact the *AccessAbility 
Coordinator: Dr. Melanie Thorley. Also, if you have any suggestions as to how 
we can enhance our support even more, please let me know

  m.thor...@gre.ac.uk

 

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Re: [Ai] Question about dealing with parents having a regressive view about the capabilities of the disabled

2017-08-05 Thread Kanchan Pamnani via Ai
Rahul,
You cannot execute and then inform if you want to travel. 
Plan well  without informing your parents. Only inform them when you are
absolutely sure. 
Your words should be that "I am going to x place with ABC on Date by flight
or train". Don't ask them just matter of fact tell them. Don't ask for
money. This trip you have to do with your saved finances.
It is best to give them full details when you tell them. Make a small
itenary - Date of travel,how, from where to where. 
Where are you staying and the phone no of the place with address. This may
sound silly in the days of mobile when they can reach you directly. However
it helps them calm down because there will be many times you will not pick
up your mobile. 
I had a loving father but a very concerned one. So I dealt with him
properly. I gave him the full information and had answers for everything he
may have asked me. My dad was a lawyer and you know and I knew how many
questions I had to answer. However I went for everything I wanted
to-including holidays with friends. It helps if your folks know your
friends. I always invited my friends home so there was a feeling of trust.
Also I must tell you that until my Dad was alive I got a call every night
even when I went to Delhi for one night. He did not care what I was doing so
I could have been in my hotel room or at a bar. He just wanted to hear my
voice at 10pm before he fell asleep. I used to get irritated because I would
think what if something happened to me at 11pm and he could not take care of
me. Once I was in Connought Place with 2 friends  both sighted. Both my age.
Arun was married and in fact a grandfather. He too got a call from his
father while we were having dinner. Ayesha is a Senior Journalist and  lives
in Delhi. She too got a call from her mother. So calm down parents will be
parents.
Don't do something stupid because then they will hold it over your head
forever. 
A lot of people on this group drink extensively. Its not really a nice scene
when you have a drunk blind person who needs help. Word does reach parents. 
The last thing I would suggest is try to be as independent as possible.
Handle your packing personally and don't ask for help when you are dealing
with your personal things.
Assert yourself but do it maturely.
Kanchan  
-Original Message-
From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of
Rahul Bajaj via Ai
Sent: 05 August 2017 16:34
To: Share, empower 
Cc: Rahul Bajaj
Subject: Re: [Ai] Question about dealing with parents having a regressive
view about the capabilities of the disabled

Thanks again.
Geetha, I agree with you that absolute independence is undesirable, but what
we are talking here  about is reasonable independence. When offered the
possibility of travelling with a friend, the parent says that friends are
likely to abandon you in case any problem arises. Only family members or
servants can be trusted.
When asked to seek advice and support from orgs like Enable India, the
parent says that those support systems exist for those who cannot afford
personal servants. They are of no use to someone who can afford personal
helpers.

The approach outlined by Shireen, though difficult, then remains the only
solution. Shireen, if one wants to travel alone/with a friend, and one is
living with one parent who will inform the unreasonable parent about
everything, how can one adopt the strategy of executing and then informing? 

Best,
Rahul 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 5, 2017, at 12:53 PM, Shireen Irani via Ai
 wrote:
> 
> hi Rahul,
> 
> most of what i wish to say has been said already, but I'd like to 
> reiterate a couple of things that i think are imperative, regardless 
> of the temporary discomfort they may cause in the relationship.
> 
> as an adult, whether disabled or not, 1 needs to put one's foot down, 
> and have the free will to decide one's own actions with total 
> responsibility for them. parents often find that difficult to accept, 
> partly for control, and partly because of their fear of being  of no 
> need to the child any more. so if there's no room for a calm 
> conversation, one can make one's decisions and break it to them 
> immediately before, or after you start executing it. even the language 
> you use needs to be assertive and firm,  reassuring them that you do 
> love and respect them, but  these are a few things that you will not 
> allow them to control, because  they are now yours to take charge of.
> this is also when you  ask them: what they think you will do, once 
> they're not around any more to protect you from the big bad world. we 
> know of countless stories of parents who threaten to harm themselves 
> in cases of their children marrying against the parents wishes, but 
> after a few months it all defuses and the family is 1 again. so 
> particularly with emotional blackmail, I know it sounds unpleasant, 
> but it is best to assert, that you will not be 

Re: [Ai] Synthia Anand reports: Aranging 1000 scribes for the Blind: A blessing to visually impaired students

2017-08-02 Thread Kanchan Pamnani via Ai


Please check for me Rajesh. If you can specifically tell me why it is a mess
I may be able to use it when I go into the scribes meeting. 
K -Original Message-
From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of
Asudani, Rajesh via Ai
Sent: 02 August 2017 17:22
To: Share, empower 
Cc: Asudani, Rajesh
Subject: Re: [Ai] Synthia Anand reports: Aranging 1000 scribes for the
Blind: A blessing to visually impaired students

On or off computer, SSC exams are a big mess.
Not sure whether August 2016 exams have indeed taken place at all till now!!


-Original Message-
From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of
Kanchan Pamnani via Ai
Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2017 3:57 PM
To: 'Share, empower '
Cc: Kanchan Pamnani
Subject: Re: [Ai] Synthia Anand reports: Aranging 1000 scribes for the
Blind: A blessing to visually impaired students

I was informed last year that the Staff selection exams in August 2016 would
be on computers.
Any person willing to share experience?
Kanchan

-Original Message-
From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of
avinash shahi via Ai
Sent: 02 August 2017 09:54
To: Share, empower 
Cc: avinash shahi
Subject: Re: [Ai] Synthia Anand reports: Aranging 1000 scribes for the
Blind: A blessing to visually impaired students

We neither have uniform education system nor the equal facilities across the
states. It is thus imperative to go slowly towards computerization of lives.
Academic exams vary in different streams so the professional ones.
therefore, differentiated approach towards facilitating exams on computer
will be wise strategy. Take for example, banking exams are conducted on
computers and their software is not in tune with screen reader. sighted
candidates do extensive work on rough paper before clicking right option
through mouse. And if blind people are asked to write the banking exams on
their own in the current patern, I guess majority of them will not be able
to attempt 5 questions. I believe computer is a way forward I however also
fear that ruthless advocacy for computerization of exams will hit hard to
the blind people in the short term. We should surely start teaching computer
to blind children in early classes, but if we advocate that blind people
should write their exams of SSC, UPSC, RBI, Railways and other banking exams
on their own, then we will be doing great injustice to them.

On 8/2/17, Avichal Bhatnagar via Ai <ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in>
wrote:
> There are some measures which need to be adopted urgently.
> For instance, the places where computer is an innate part of the job, 
> exams for such jobs should be given by the blind people on computers 
> on their own.
> Also, its high time that we stop justifying the wrong, because then 
> everybody can have a justification for their misdeeds.
> Solving mathematical problems in competitive exams may be challenging 
> and so people take a scribe for that, but I wonder why such people 
> have to also pass the university exams by the same means?
> Now the situation has also started to deteriorate in schools, thanks 
> to the wonderful MSJE guidelines on scribes.
>
>
> On 8/2/17, Santosh Gandigude via Ai
> <ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in>
> wrote:
>> Teachers and Governments responsibility to teach Mathematics and 
>> Science subjects atleast 10th standard with the help of modern 
>> computer software technologies,special devices,tactile diagrams. It 
>> is also good to understanding the diagrams,equations and structures 
>> by putting fingers on palm of hand.
>>
>> On 8/2/17, Dipendra Manocha via Ai
>> <ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in>
>> wrote:
>>> Our experience with children has been very encouraging. Once we 
>>> believe in it and our students, they respond very positively to take 
>>> up such challenges. Both at NAB Delhi and at Saksham where such 
>>> policy has been put in place along with support, children have 
>>> certainly responded positively.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Dipendra
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On 
>>> Behalf Of r k sarin via Ai
>>> Sent: 01 August 2017 12:08
>>> To: Share, empower  <ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in>
>>> Cc: r k sarin <no2illiter...@gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Ai] Synthia Anand reports: Aranging 1000 scribes for 
>>> the
>>> Blind: A blessing to visually impaired students
>>>
>>> This cannot be solved in a day. It is a long process. We have to 
>>> make use of the computer compulsory and give training of this 
>>> effect. With full a

Re: [Ai] Synthia Anand reports: Aranging 1000 scribes for the Blind: A blessing to visually impaired students

2017-08-02 Thread Kanchan Pamnani via Ai
I was informed last year that the Staff selection exams in August 2016 would
be on computers. 
Any person willing to share experience? 
Kanchan 

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From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of
avinash shahi via Ai
Sent: 02 August 2017 09:54
To: Share, empower 
Cc: avinash shahi
Subject: Re: [Ai] Synthia Anand reports: Aranging 1000 scribes for the
Blind: A blessing to visually impaired students

We neither have uniform education system nor the equal facilities across the
states. It is thus imperative to go slowly towards computerization of lives.
Academic exams vary in different streams so the professional ones.
therefore, differentiated approach towards facilitating exams on computer
will be wise strategy. Take for example, banking exams are conducted on
computers and their software is not in tune with screen reader. sighted
candidates do extensive work on rough paper before clicking right option
through mouse. And if blind people are asked to write the banking exams on
their own in the current patern, I guess majority of them will not be able
to attempt 5 questions. I believe computer is a way forward I however also
fear that ruthless advocacy for computerization of exams will hit hard to
the blind people in the short term. We should surely start teaching computer
to blind children in early classes, but if we advocate that blind people
should write their exams of SSC, UPSC, RBI, Railways and other banking exams
on their own, then we will be doing great injustice to them.

On 8/2/17, Avichal Bhatnagar via Ai 
wrote:
> There are some measures which need to be adopted urgently.
> For instance, the places where computer is an innate part of the job, 
> exams for such jobs should be given by the blind people on computers 
> on their own.
> Also, its high time that we stop justifying the wrong, because then 
> everybody can have a justification for their misdeeds.
> Solving mathematical problems in competitive exams may be challenging 
> and so people take a scribe for that, but I wonder why such people 
> have to also pass the university exams by the same means?
> Now the situation has also started to deteriorate in schools, thanks 
> to the wonderful MSJE guidelines on scribes.
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> On 8/2/17, Santosh Gandigude via Ai 
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> wrote:
>> Teachers and Governments responsibility to teach Mathematics and 
>> Science subjects atleast 10th standard with the help of modern 
>> computer software technologies,special devices,tactile diagrams. It 
>> is also good to understanding the diagrams,equations and structures 
>> by putting fingers on palm of hand.
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>> On 8/2/17, Dipendra Manocha via Ai 
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>> wrote:
>>> Our experience with children has been very encouraging. Once we 
>>> believe in it and our students, they respond very positively to take 
>>> up such challenges. Both at NAB Delhi and at Saksham where such 
>>> policy has been put in place along with support, children have 
>>> certainly responded positively.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Dipendra
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On 
>>> Behalf Of r k sarin via Ai
>>> Sent: 01 August 2017 12:08
>>> To: Share, empower  
>>> Cc: r k sarin 
>>> Subject: Re: [Ai] Synthia Anand reports: Aranging 1000 scribes for 
>>> the
>>> Blind: A blessing to visually impaired students
>>>
>>> This cannot be solved in a day. It is a long process. We have to 
>>> make use of the computer compulsory and give training of this 
>>> effect. With full assurance, I can say that even if you ask these 
>>> students to write their exams in Braille, they will not agree.
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "gatak singh via Ai" 
>>> To: "Share, empower " 
>>> Cc: "gatak singh" ; "jnuvision"
>>> 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2017 9:52 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Ai] Synthia Anand reports: Aranging 1000 scribes for 
>>> the
>>> Blind: A blessing to visually impaired students
>>>
>>>
I stay in bangalore and many people like pallavi are doing great job.
 if I would talk about writing exams independently, I also support 
this view but most of them will not agree to this. we all agree 
because we are using emails, computers. but most of them does not 
even know to use email service. that's the problem.

 On 7/31/17, avinash shahi via Ai 
 
 wrote:
> http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/bangalore/a-blessing-to-visual
> ly- impaired-students/article19392711.ece
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> --
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> Doctoral student at Centre for Law and Governance JNU
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Re: [Ai] Abhishek Behl reported in Hindustan Times yesterday: Gurgaon: Blind banker gets 10-year jail for raping blind woman

2017-07-31 Thread Kanchan Pamnani via Ai
Just by marrying someone does it mitigate rape? You have  mentioned this twice 
in your email. 
I think we should get into a proper discussion on some of the concepts 
discussed in this article and by many of you. It will help broaden thinking.
K

-Original Message-
From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of gatak 
singh via Ai
Sent: 01 August 2017 11:11
To: Share, empower 
Cc: gatak singh; jnuvision
Subject: Re: [Ai] Abhishek Behl reported in Hindustan Times yesterday: Gurgaon: 
Blind banker gets 10-year jail for raping blind woman

sorry for discussing again but I couldn't stop commenting on this matter.
I know few examples where the girl has not accepted the proposal of the boy, 
but when the boy got a government job, she threatened to marry her otherwise 
she would go to the court aledging that he promised to marry but did not keep 
up his promise. so boy had to marry her due to fear of loosing his government 
job.
in this matter, boy had promised that he would marry that girl. what I 
understand is that girl may have agreed for sex based on this promise.
but in any case, boy should have married her. but he did not marry, that's his 
mistake. but this should be called cheating rather than rape.
someone said that women feel shy or disgusted to go to courts saying that she 
was raped. but I dont agree to this. that women should have immidiately gone to 
the court when she was raped for the first time.
from my understanding, women dont go to courts because if this comes in the 
media and if everybody comes to know about that, nobody would marry her. but in 
this case, she was already married once, and there wasn't any matter to fear.
this is nothing but hipocracy at its peak. if he had married her, she would 
have never complained. here, he did not marry, hence it automatically turned 
into rape case. rape is rape. women can change the situation however they want. 
it was not rape before 2 years, then how can it be called rape now?
I am not in anyway supporting the rapists. but just speaking about this case.
I wonder what was the proof for the marriage promise that he had made.
was there any recording or document? or judge just believed her oral words?
I can understand the psychology of the female members on this list.
they can't speak against that aledged female victim, because females should 
support the females. but the fact is that men are often exploited legally due 
to the biased laws.
someone said that father raping his own daughter, brother raping his own sister 
comes to light after so many years. this happens because the girl will be minor 
in that situation. in this case, girl was not minor. she had 8 year old child, 
which means she was matured enough.
so, as mahajan sir said, both of them are equally culprits in this case.
the best way to escape from the discussion is to just say, 'how can we talk 
when we are not in that situation'.
anyway, I feel that boy should had kept up to his promise, then it would have 
been never called rape. but this punishment is very harsh on him, who was not 
100% culprit.

On 7/26/17, avinash shahi via Ai  wrote:
> http://www.hindustantimes.com/gurgaon/gurgaon-blind-banker-gets-10-yea
> r-jail-for-raping-blind-woman/story-xQAJGpWmso2ioCesDHV2UM.html
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> A Gurgaon district court on Monday awarded 10 years rigorous 
> imprisonment to a blind man, a trainee probationary officer at a 
> public sector bank, who was found guilty of raping a 33-year-old blind 
> widow repeatedly on the pretext of marriage.
>
> The court also imposed a penalty on convict Saurabh Kapoor, 35, who 
> was convicted of rape under Section 376 of the IPC.
>
> Additional Sessions Judge Rajni Yadav, while pronouncing the quantum 
> of sentence, said that given the inhumanity of the act, it was 
> required to impose upon the convict substantive and stern sentence 
> that would commensurate with the gravity of the offence and also serve 
> as an example to others.
>
> It is to be noted that since both the victim and the accused were 
> blind, the court had relied upon ‘voice identification’ that helped 
> the woman to identify Kapoor, a resident of Mayur Vihar in Delhi.
>
> On the pretext of meeting an advocate, Kapoor had taken the victim on 
> May 30, 2015, to a guest house in Gurgaon and raped her there for the 
> first time. He later continued to abuse her, promising marriage.
>
> The victim, who has an eight-year-old daughter, worked in a private 
> company in 2015, when the incident happened. She is currently 
> unemployed.
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> qualified, but all these arguments were rejected by the court, which 
> awarded him 10 

Re: [Ai] Synthia Anand reports: Aranging 1000 scribes for the Blind: A blessing to visually impaired students

2017-07-31 Thread Kanchan Pamnani via Ai
The writer guidelines are under review and we will have to take a quick and
proper stand on this matter soon.  
The dilution is going to be inevitable. We must look at independence  from
scribe fetters. Its time big/national  NGOS make a mindset change.
Individuals will have to be trained for computer based exams. Scribes should
be the exception and not the rule. 
Unfortunately the misuse of scribe is taught by a lot of people and
organisations to their young aspirants.  Most of us know this. 
 The really deserving Disabled suffer because their own brethren do not
want to play fair. 
Computers soon will get hacked but in the interim this is the solution for
many but not all. 
Kanchan   
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From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of
avinash shahi via Ai
Sent: 31 July 2017 11:07
To: Share, empower 
Cc: avinash shahi
Subject: Re: [Ai] Synthia Anand reports: Aranging 1000 scribes for the
Blind: A blessing to visually impaired students

Certainly, technology is the way forward. writing competitions should be
organized ona regular interrvals in schools to attract more blind people to
write on their own.

On 7/31/17, George Abraham via Ai 
wrote:
> Just a thought! While it sounds wonderful that someone is arranging 
> scribes for the blind students and has crossed the 1000 mark, but 
> doesn't this continued reliance on scribes promote dependency? I do 
> however realise that a sudden shift from scribe to technology might 
> not be possible, but the endeavour should be on personal independence. 
> This will definitely add to the employability skill of the blind students.
Think about this.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf 
> Of avinash shahi via Ai
> Sent: 31 July 2017 10:26
> To: ai; jnuvision
> Cc: avinash shahi
> Subject: [Ai] Synthia Anand reports: Aranging 1000 scribes for the 
> Blind: A blessing to visually impaired students
>
> http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/bangalore/a-blessing-to-visually-i
> mpair
> ed-students/article19392711.ece
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[Ai] RETCS

2017-07-28 Thread Kanchan Pamnani via Ai
HI Minar, 
You may write on this platform if you don’t mind everyone reading it. Its good  
because everyone can evaluate and help. It will also help others who  are 
either starting their careers or are facing similar situations. However,it may 
not be good for you to be airing your views so freely on a public platform and 
therefore you may choose to write to me on  kanchanpamn...@gmail.com
TCS is an equal opportunity employer even before the law changed so at at one 
level I am surprised but at another I am not very surprised because I am aware 
of one person losing his job  when he went blind. Ironic that he got another 
job with TCS after he learnt Screenreaders etc. 

Yours seems to be a serious case. Please don’t stop attending office whatever 
else you do. Definitely speak with Charudatta. 
Try and reach out to the HR head. 
Have you made any friends at the office ? Is there  enough work for all in your 
office location? 
I do not see anything being resolved through court so I would request you to 
look at all the options and of course the system must change. 
Kanchan 
Did you get into TCS through the Maitri project or through Enableindia  etc? 
 

-Original Message-
From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of Minar 
Singh via Ai
Sent: 28 July 2017 15:37
To: Share, empower 
Cc: Minar Singh
Subject: Re: [Ai] Abhishek Behl reported in Hindustan Times yesterday: Gurgaon: 
Blind banker gets 10-year jail for raping blind woman

Dear Kanchan madam,
Should I write everything in detail on this public platform or on your personal 
email ID?
I'm writing here in short. When I started working at TCS, I have been told 
something and got something else in written format. I have been told that I 
would be retainer for the initial 6 months after that I will get confirmation 
letter. same things got repeated for 3 times. It means I got confirmation 
letter after 15/16 months. TCS has stopped my salary for 4 & half months 
without informing me in written format. I did protest on this then got a reply 
that some document process was going on.
company has sent me for the Accessbility training in Mumbai office.
but they are not giving me any assignments.
I go to the office sit for entire day and come back to home in evening. I got 
frustrated so stopped going to office daily.
I'm not getting assignments it means I will not get promotion and salary 
increment.
I do not wish to change my job. I want to change the internal system in my 
current company.


On 7/28/17, Kanchan Pamnani via Ai <ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in> wrote:
> Please explain in detail what kind of discrimination have you been facing.
> Lets see how to tackle this.
> K
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf 
> Of Minar Singh via Ai
> Sent: 28 July 2017 13:51
> To: Share, empower 
> Cc: Minar Singh
> Subject: Re: [Ai] Abhishek Behl reported in Hindustan Times yesterday:
> Gurgaon: Blind banker gets 10-year jail for raping blind woman
>
> Hello Kanchan madam,
> I'm Minar Singh from Kolkata and I have been working at TCS since Dec
> 2013 till today.
> I have been facing discrimination from the recruitment of my first 6 
> months at office.
> I got frustrated and few days back I have raised this issue on 
> change.org online portal working for the change because I know no NGOs 
> will come forward and look into my issues.
> I'm expecting positive reply from PMO and ministery of social justice 
> of India.
>
>
> On 7/28/17, Kanchan Pamnani via Ai 
> <ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in>
> wrote:
>> Equal opportunity policy must for cos
>>
>> Lubna Kably
>> <http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/toireporter/author-Lubna-Kably-47
>> 5
>> 7.cms>
>> | TNN | Jul 28, 2017, 04:00 AM IST
>>
>>
>> Mumbai: India Inc has been nudged to be more inclusive when it comes 
>> to hiring and retaining the differently-abled 
>> <http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/topic/differently-abled>as 'The 
>> Rights of Persons with Disabilities Rules, 2017 
>> <http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/topic/2017>' — which came into 
>> effect last month — also casts certain obligations on private sector 
>> employers. So far, for creating an inclusive society, the government 
>> had concentrated on its organisations and PSUs, but this approach has 
>> changed.
>>
>>
>> From June 15, all employer organisations need to adopt an 'Equal 
>> Opportunity Policy' (EOP) containing details of amenities that will 
>> be provided to their differently-abled employees. The policy is to be 
>> displayed on the employer's website or at conspicuous places in the 
>> work premises. A copy is also to be registered wi

Re: [Ai] Abhishek Behl reported in Hindustan Times yesterday: Gurgaon: Blind banker gets 10-year jail for raping blind woman

2017-07-28 Thread Kanchan Pamnani via Ai
Equal opportunity policy must for cos

Lubna Kably

| TNN | Jul 28, 2017, 04:00 AM IST


Mumbai: India Inc has been nudged to be more inclusive when it comes to
hiring and retaining the differently-abled
as 'The Rights
of Persons with Disabilities Rules, 2017
' — which came into effect
last month — also casts certain obligations on private sector employers. So
far, for creating an inclusive society, the government had concentrated on
its organisations and PSUs, but this approach has changed.


>From June 15, all employer organisations need to adopt an 'Equal
Opportunity Policy' (EOP) containing details of amenities that will be
provided to their differently-abled employees. The policy is to be
displayed on the employer's website or at conspicuous places in the work
premises. A copy is also to be registered with the relevant authorities.
There are many additional requirements — organisations having more than 20
employees need to appoint a liaison officer to oversee recruitment and
provision of facilities for the differently-abled. Employers need to ensure
that there is no discrimination and provide necessary training and
infrastructure facilities to enable their differently-abled to function
effectively. "These developments have taken the private sector by surprise,
even as several MNCs have had an EOP, which was also extended to employees
in India. Employers will need to revamp hiring practices and modify their
HR policies. This step taken by the government will ensure that our
employment standards are in line with international norms," says Vikram
Shroff, head (HR law practice), Nishith Desai Associates
.


While no employment reservation quota has been fixed, the disability law
calls upon the government and local authorities to provide incentives to
private sector employers to ensure that at least 5% of their workforce
comprises differently-abled. "It's unclear whether the private sector that
receives any kind of incentives from the government will have to meet this
employment target," adds Shroff.

A few companies in India, including non-MNCs, are equal opportunity
employers — others may now be prompted to follow suit. Anwar, a hockey
player and Paralympic athletics champion, once had to sell his medals to
sustain himself and family. Now he is gainfully employed with Mahindra
Holidays & Resorts as a senior service facilitator in the purchase
department. Nearly 60 differently-abled employees are working across
resorts as front-office operators, spa therapists, electricians and
plumbers, gardeners, kitchen staff and housekeeping staff, to name a few
instances.

Pratik Roy, chief human resource officer, Mahindra Holidays, says, "We have
a structured hiring policy. Through a special recruitment programme, we
reach out to organisations that work for empowerment of the
differently-abled. Specially attuned training programmes are run for such
employees to enable them to develop resort hospitality skill sets."



Lemon Tree Hotels has always been an equal opportunity employer. Currently,
it has more than 500 differently-abled employees (13% of its total
workforce) employed across functions. Explains Rajesh Kumar, VP (HR), "Such
a commitment requires substantial investments in training and refresher
modules, as the differently-abled are vulnerable to being left behind over
time. The training formats are customised to meet their needs. For
instance, video-based training modules for employees in housekeeping, food
& beverage sections have been enhanced with the use of Indian sign
language."



At Deutsche Bank ,
diversity and inclusivity (which also covers the differently-abled) is an
important agenda for the board. A robust onboarding process ensures that
special infrastructure needs of the differently abled are addressed right
upfront — be it provision of screen-reading software for the visually
challenged or one-handed key boards for those facing upper limb disability.
An employee-driven network 'dbEnable' connects the 100-plus differently
abled employees, ensures engagement and enables policy or procedural
enhancement to meet their needs. Customised career development sessions,
mentoring programmes and grievance redressal mechanisms are in place.




Sensitisation of team members is crucial for creating a conducive working.
Madhavi Lall, head (HR) at Deutsche Bank, India, says, "Basic sign language
training is provided to employees so that they can communicate more
effectively with those having hearing disabilities. Special sensitisation
sessions are also held for managers having differently abled team members
to enable them to better understand their requirements and career
aspirations."




Shroff points 

Re: [Ai] Abhishek Behl reported in Hindustan Times yesterday: Gurgaon: Blind banker gets 10-year jail for raping blind woman

2017-07-26 Thread Kanchan Pamnani via Ai
Bhiwani 
" the surviver is a widow, not inocent."
This statement is uncalled for and absolutely requires a mindset change.  
The Courts have come a long way since these statements were made by male 
stakeholders-police, accused, witnesses, doctors and even judges. Its time you 
too move on from these thoughts.
So just because she is a widow  and we presume that she has had sex before this 
guy came into her life does not mean that she has or hasnot been raped. If hse 
has been raped then she is a victim  whether she was of moral character or a 
sex worker.  Some of the lawyers in this group will send you the relevant 
judgements.   
Most of the other observations made by others on this list are perfectly 
correct.  
Kanchan   
-Original Message-
From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of 
bhawani shankar verma via Ai
Sent: 26 July 2017 16:33
To: Share, empower 
Cc: bhawani shankar verma
Subject: Re: [Ai] Abhishek Behl reported in Hindustan Times yesterday: Gurgaon: 
Blind banker gets 10-year jail for raping blind woman

the surviver is a widow, not inocent.


-Original Message-
From: avinash shahi via Ai
Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 3:18 PM
To: Share, empower 
Cc: avinash shahi
Subject: Re: [Ai] Abhishek Behl reported in Hindustan Times yesterday: 
Gurgaon: Blind banker gets 10-year jail for raping blind woman

The surviver in the under discussion order is a widow; this fact and her 
precarious circumstance may have led the judge to pronounce such a harsh 
punishment. He however can approach the higher judiciary.  As a silver lining, 
There are very few blind women who knock the door of the courts when their 
bodily integrity is violated. This particular order should deter blind men in 
particular to not take blind women for granted and for a ride.
On 7/26/17, Arjun Malhotra via Ai 
wrote:
> Wasn't there a Supreme Court Judgment recently on educated women and 
> promise of marriage. Why not apply that yardstick in this case as 
> well.
>
> On 7/26/17, Rahul Kelapure via Ai 
> wrote:
>> Agree with Prateek. Here I also see a strainge attitude of the Judge 
>> to justify high punishment to the convict as the girl is blind and he 
>> took advantage of her helplessness as she was blind.
>>
>> While techniclly it could be rape but how many would Court award 10 
>> years riggerous jail for this kind of matter in so called normal 
>> cases?
>>
>> I think, Judge has gone overboard while pronouncing the sentence.
>>
>> This is like two extreme sides of attitude for disabled where on one 
>> hand they will have extremely symphethy or they will have abselute 
>> indiference or hatred for disabled.
>>
>> If She was so clear that, she would want to have sex only after 
>> marage then first marry and then do whatever. There are many matters 
>> where everything is consensual but when things do not go as per the 
>> expectation, slap with rape charges.
>>
>> Strainge.
>>
>> I am sure, this will not stand the scrutiny in the higher court. I 
>> don't know how well the defence fought the matter.
>>
>> On 7/26/17, prateek aggarwal via Ai 
>> 
>> wrote:
>>> While questioning court's decision is a crime itself in india, isn't 
>>> this unfair to punish man while the repeated sexual relationships 
>>> were established in mutual consensus of both the partners?
>>> As both of them had sex multiple times since 2015, how can this be 
>>> even called rape on the first place?
>>> Yes the news suggests that the man has  promised marriage and   on
>>> that pretext this sexual relationship was established, but things 
>>> may happen in the course of  2 years that may force a person to not 
>>> marry other. That does not definitely take the fact away that the 
>>> sex happened with the consent of girl.
>>> Promises like these are not documented here in india.
>>> Personally, I feel that the laws are sometimes being miss used by 
>>> females, like it has been in this context. This is unfortunate.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Prateek agarwal.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/26/17, Ajay Minocha via Ai 
>>> wrote:
 A very welcome judgement!

 On 7/26/17, avinash shahi via Ai 
 
 wrote:
> http://www.hindustantimes.com/gurgaon/gurgaon-blind-banker-gets-10
> -year-jail-for-raping-blind-woman/story-xQAJGpWmso2ioCesDHV2UM.htm
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> A Gurgaon district court on Monday awarded 10 years rigorous 
> imprisonment to a blind man, a trainee probationary officer at a 
> public sector bank, who was found guilty of raping a 33-year-old 
> blind widow repeatedly on the pretext of marriage.
>
> The court also imposed a penalty on convict Saurabh Kapoor, 35, 
> who was convicted of rape under Section 376 of the IPC.
>
> Additional Sessions Judge Rajni Yadav, while pronouncing the 

[Ai] Eco times

2017-07-06 Thread Kanchan Pamnani via Ai
NEW DELHI: The government has clarified its decision to levy 5% goods and
services tax on assistive devices for the physically challenged, rejecting
Congress vice-president Rahul Gandhi’s allegation that the government has
been “insensitive” to the disabled.

“Tax incidence is not going up but going down,” revenue secretary Hasmukh
Adhia said, even as he offered two reasons why these devices have not been
exempted from GST.

Under GST, Braille writers and Braille paper to ..

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[Ai] Mumbai Mirror

2017-07-06 Thread Kanchan Pamnani via Ai
The Central Railway plans to start a new helpline system to redress the
grievances of the handicapped passengers and cancer patients. Following
complaints from handicapped passengers that they were not getting adequate
help when they called the helpline number 900441, the CR is all set to
implement a new system where passengers just need to send an SMS on this
number, which will then be forwarded to the concerned department.

“The SMS-based helpline will be set up in a couple of days, and be ready
for implementation,” said Divisional Railway Manager of CR, Mumbai
Division, Ravinder Goyal. Asked about the difference between the existing
helpline and the proposed helpline, the officer said, “Sometimes, it is not
possible to make a call. In such a case, when we get a message (on the
helpline) it will be transferred to the concerned department for as
immediate a response as possible,” added another officer.

Earlier this year, hearing a PIL about this, the Bombay High Court had
directed the Railways to provide facilities to disabled passengers
travelling in local trains, including CCTV cameras inside reserved
compartments, special seating arrangements for the disabled on platforms
and a helpline facility. The court had also directed that the helpline be
activated so that passengers can immediately WhatsApp or SMS about
unauthorized commuters in the handicapped compartments and that the police
should take appropriate and immediate action.
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Re: [Ai] Hi I need your help and advice h

2017-07-03 Thread Kanchan Pamnani via Ai
*A Story about a P**sychiatrist*


*DAVID HARTMAN'S IMPOSSIBLE DREAM*

Everybody who knew young David Hartman thought he was riding for a fall.
Even his own family realized that the time to call a halt to Dave's
impossible plans was that September 1968 - the night before he first went
off to college. The four Hartman’s were lingering at the dinner table in
their Havertown, USA, home when David, who is blind, broached an old
subject with new intensity."Father," he said, "tell me honestly."Do you
think I can be a doctor?" Fred Hartman, a bank officer and a very practical
man, stalled before replying. It was one thing not to pamper Dave, quite
another to let him go on building up for a tragic let-down. What medical
college would accept a blind student? The time had come to set David
straight. But, wondered the father, how had come to set David straight.
But, wondered the father, how could he give a flat no to a boy like Dave?
How could he clamp a ceiling on his dreams? And so, Fred Hartman finally
said, "A doctor, son? *Well you'll never unless you try, will you*?"

Both he and David grinned. For this was the same response he had always
made to David's "Can I do?' queries-ever since the boy, born with defective
lenses, had gone completely blind at the age of eight."Dad" Dave had asked
at the age of ten, "can I play baseball?'.

"Well, let's try it and see," his father suggested, and together they
worked out a way. Mr. Hartman rolled the ball along the ground to Dave, who
learned to bat and catch it by the whistling sound it made through the
grass.



*Realm of Possibility?*

That had begun the family's determined effort to help David become as
independent as possible. At times, panicked by darkness, the little boy
would cry out, "Mama, I can't stand it!"Then Idame Hartman, the softest
member of the team would rock him gently in her arms and croon, "I know, I
know," until he found he could stand it after all. But his mother also
joined the others in making David share household chores; and tired though
she was when she came home from her job as a cashier, she read to him
nearly every night to stimulate his imagination.

It was Dave's sister Barbara, however, who steeled herself to be his
toughest taskmaster. Even the time he'd left his Braille watch upstairs and
asked her to retrieve it, she’d said “Get it yourself. What do you
think-that somebody's always going to be around to wait on you?"

So David grew up considering blindness no tragedy-just an exasperating
bother-and feeling he could do anything he set his mind to. Then at 13, he
announced that he was going to be a doctor and, unable to see the rueful
headshakes that greeted this childish proclamation, he began preparing for
his career. He insisted on leaving the local blind school, and enrolled at
Havertown's high school. He got good marks, won a place on wrestling team,
and was elected vice-president of the student council.



Still, as impressive as his accomplishments were, they had always fallen
into the realm of possibility. But David's ambition to become a doctor, a
psychiatrist, was not in that realm, his family believed. So, after seeing
him off to college, the Hartman’s felt they had not been frank enough with
Dave, and they were afraid he was heading for grief.

At college, Hartman's faculty advisers tried to reason with him."Why not
settle for something more within your capabilities, like history or
psychology?' suggested biology professor Ralph Cavaliere.

Sensing that this key teacher was about to refuse to allow him in his
class, David launched into his most persuasive argument."Look, “I’m no
different from anybody else! It's true I can't see, but everybody has some
kind of disability. I believe the ones who are the most handicapped are
those who don't want to do anything special or challenging with their
lives. I want to be a psychiatrist because I happen to believe I'll make a
good one-especially in helping rehabilitate people with problems similar to
my own. So I want to go medical college and I'm counting on people like you
to get me ready!".From that moment on, Cavaliere was David's staunch ally.



*ON HIS WAY*

Handsome and well-built, the young blind man strode briskly around campus
with only an occasional searching thrust of his white metal cane. In his
second year, Dave kept happening to meet bright, lissome, green-eyed Cheryl
Walker. For months he wondered why he was so lucky. Later, after they had
become serious about each other, Cheri confessed to him: "I'd see you and
run to get in your path-then hope I didn't sound out of breath when I said,
'Fancy seeing you again'."

In the spring of 1972, David was winding up four years at college with top
marks. So far, so good. Ready for the big try, he had applied to top ten
medical colleges.

By early April, eight had turned him down. Then, on the afternoon of April
27,a ninth rejection came from a medical college he had counted on the
most, and Dave was crushed. He and Cheri both 

[Ai] article

2017-05-02 Thread Kanchan Pamnani via AI
Disabled get travel wings as start-ups lend a helping handSharmila Ganesan
Ram

| TNN | May 2, 2017, 09.47 AM IST
Thirty-seven-year old Rustom Irani
's pale legs have
tur ned an angry pin kish-brown. It's as if they are still blushing from
his recent trip to Goa when, for the first time in 15 years, the
Mumbai-based filmmaker wore swimming trunks to the beach. He had strapped
himself to what looked like a yellow beachside chair with wheels that
rolled him right out into the Arabian Sea. For the next three hours,
sprawled on this amphibian chair, he bobbed up and down in the ocean, let
out childish screams and returned with a lesson: always pack sunscreen.
Incidentally, three mornings after Irani's outing, dozens of wheelchair
users like him rolled down a wooden ramp at the same be ach and floated in
its newly accessible waves. This hydraulic coincidence at Candolim owes to
two separate initiatives that signal the rising tide of inclusive travel in
India.

While Irani was testing out the imported floating wheelchair for Enable
Travel, a website launched by Cox & Kings to help the disabled navigate
India, the masses at Candolim beach were caused by `Beachfest', a five-day
wheelchair-accessible festival organised by the accessible-travel portal,
UMOJA."When people come to beach destinations, the physically challenged
member is usually left behind but beaches are for everyone," says Yeshwant
Holkar, CEO of UMOJA. Similar grouses are now prompting startups to venture
into inclusive travel, in line with the government's two-year-old
Accessible India campaign. They know that a huge domestic and international
market of disabled people is desperate to travel.

Inevitably, an estimated population of 20 million disabled Indians becomes
"invisible", says Mumbai-based Divyanshu Ganatra, a clinical psychologist
and the first blind Indian to paraglide solo. "How many disabled friends do
you have?" asks Ganatra, who founded Adventures Beyond Barriers Founda tion
in 2014. While trekking in the Sahyadris or cyling from Manali to Leh's
Khardung La alongside people with disabilities, the able-bodied trip over
insights. "They realise basic things like a blind can hold a full-time job
and operate cellphones and that amputees can climb mountains," says
Ganatra, who has seen several builders go back with ideas for making
buildings accessible.

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The problem with certain travel startups, says Ganatra, is that their
"access audits" are conducted by able-bodied people who may fail to check
for little details such as softness of mattress or availability of cordless
phones. To avoid this, Enable Travel, a Braille-compliant portal, has
enlisted a panel of experts with disabilities among whom is Shama Noorani,
a wheelchair-bound Angel healer and Prabal Malaker, a retired Air Force
officer who swims, hits the gym and travels undeterred by multiple
sclerosis. "No two disabled have the same needs," says Irani, one of the
experts. "Someone using crutches may not need a wide door while a
wheelchair user might," says Irani, adding that after over two years of
recces, the portal has identified14 cities in India where it plans to part
ner 

Re: [Ai] Telegraph Front page: Indian blind foreign officer Beno Zephine in Paris: Sightless but full of vision

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Re: [Ai] Sharing a couple of interesting blog posts from Eyeway!

2017-05-02 Thread Kanchan Pamnani via AI
On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 12:45 PM, George Abraham via AI <
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> Hi all,
> Happy to share the latest two blogs published on The Better India. One was
> written by Anoushka and the other by Sonali from Saksham.
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> Making Science Accessible to India's Visually Impaired Students, One
> Innovation at a Time
> http://www.thebetterindia.com/98146/science-accessibility-
> visually-impaired
> -students/
>
> From Screen Readers to Magnifiers, There Are Now Many Aids for the Visually
> Impaired Elderly
> http://www.thebetterindia.com/97835/modern-technology-
> visually-impaired-eld
> erly-assistance/
> Regards,
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Re: [Ai] can you please provide me the G.O for public buildings disable friendly

2017-05-01 Thread Kanchan Pamnani via AI
Please read the National Building Code. 
Kanchan 

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From: AI [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of
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Subject: [Ai] can you please provide me the G.O for public buildings disable
friendly

Dear list,
Recently in our office a bath room was constructed which is not user
friendly for disabled.  hence i request to provide me any G.O/circular by
the central government which says to build public buildings user friendly
for disable person.

thanks and regards,
sazid

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