Re: [Ai] radio advise!

[P. Subramani via Ai]

thank you for your feedback, its difficult to listen to sw with lots of 
electronic noise in the surroundings
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To: "'Share, empower '" 
Cc: "sanjay" 
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 8:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Ai] radio advise!



If you are a shortwave listener I advice you to download apps like simple
radio, tune in radio etc. Which are fairly accessible in both android and
ios devices.  Some of the countries already stopped broadcasting on
shortwave metres.  Now you don't get voice of America, ABC,  Radio Mosco 
and

many other stations in  shortwave bands.  There is no future for
conventional shortwave and medium wave radio stations.



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Re: [Ai] Dr. Saibaba's Letter From Jail: "I Do Not Think I Will Survive This Winter"

[P. Subramani via Ai]

Then, I wholeheartedly apologise for my comments, since hope  things are 
back to normal, thanks for your kind clarification
- Original Message - 
From: "Avichal Bhatnagar" <coolavic...@gmail.com>

To: "P. Subramani" <subramani6...@gmail.com>
Cc: "Share, empower " <ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in>
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 1:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Ai] Dr. Saibaba's Letter From Jail: "I Do Not Think I Will 
Survive This Winter"



Dear Subramani,
I think you completely misread my statement, it was never for you.
It was for the person who posted the letter of a maoist.


On 10/30/17, P. Subramani <subramani6...@gmail.com> wrote:

if you think, this is communal, that's your stupidity, if you mean I was
thrownout from some other mailing list, its absolute absurd, if you dare 
to


come clean on this, ask the moderator of that list to clarify, don' spread
misinformation exhibiting your stupidity
- Original Message -
From: "Avichal Bhatnagar via Ai" <ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in>
To: "Share, empower " <ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in>
Cc: "Avichal Bhatnagar" <coolavic...@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 1:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Ai] Dr. Saibaba's Letter From Jail: "I Do Not Think I Will
Survive This Winter"



So, the rabble-rousers who were thrown out from another mailing list
some years back have started using accessindia as a platform to
promote their divisive communal agenda, I see.
Since the professor wrote the letter in such a pleading language, so
we all decided the case in his favour.
Did we even bother to check the other side as well? Moreover, even if
there is negligence on the part of the prison authorities, court
should be approached, not protest on streets.

On 10/30/17, P. Subramani via Ai <ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in>
wrote:

since he was an english professor, used all his skills in writing such
deceiptive letter,  he pleads under the shadow of disability, now that
the
courts have convicted for serious crimes,  all those supporting his so
called innocence are liable for action on contempt of courts, he is
bearing
the fruits  of his anti-national activities,  he doesn't deserve
piety/sympathy
- Original Message -
From: "gatak singh via Ai" <ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in>
To: "Share, empower " <ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in>
Cc: "gatak singh" <gataksingh.gurud...@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 11:39 AM
Subject: Re: [Ai] Dr. Saibaba's Letter From Jail: "I Do Not Think I Will
Survive This Winter"



the letter is heart touching. hope he gets the bail soon.

On 10/30/17, Shireen Irani via Ai <ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in>
wrote:

NEW DELHI: Dr G.N.Saibaba Professor at Delhi University and now in
solitary confinement in Nagpur Central Jail has spoken out for help.
Disabled, he has
been branded a Maoist and sentenced to life imprisonment. The
sentencing has been controversial with many who supported and defended
the Professor insisting
that he has been persecuted by governments for raising a voice against
paramilitary operations in the primarily tribal Adivasi belts of
central and eastern
India.

The government has not entertained these arguments, and nor have the
courts, with THE Professor, 90 per cent disabled and suffering from
multiple ailments,
himself writing in this letter to his wife Vasantha that he might not
be able to survive the winter months in jail. He has been convicted
under the Unlawful
Activities (Prevention) Act in what those convinced of his innocence
describe as a travesty of justice.

The letter was written on October 17 and received by his wife on
October 25. It reads as follows:

Dear Vasantha

I am frightened to think of coming winter. Already I am shivering with
continuous fever. I do not have a blanket. I do not have a
sweater/jacket. As temperature
goes down excruciating pain continuously in my legs and left hand
increases. It is impossible for me to survive here during the winter
that starts from
November.

I am living here like an animal taking its last breaths. Somehow 8
months I managed to survive. But I am not going to survive in the
coming winter. I am
sure. It is of no use to write about my health any longer.

In any case, please finalize the senior counsel by or before the end
of this month. Then inform Mr. Gadling to file my bail application in
the first week
of November or last week of October itself. You remember if this is
not done in this way, my situation will be out of hands. I am not
responsible. I am
making clear to you. Hereafter I am not going to write about it any
longer.

You should talk to Mrs Rebeccaji and Nandita Narain. You also talk to
Prof. Haragopal and others. Explain the entire situation. You need to
hurry up.

I am feeling so depressed for requesting you all so many times lik

Re: [Ai] Dr. Saibaba's Letter From Jail: "I Do Not Think I Will Survive This Winter"

[P. Subramani via Ai]

if you think, this is communal, that's your stupidity, if you mean I was 
thrownout from some other mailing list, its absolute absurd, if you dare to 
come clean on this, ask the moderator of that list to clarify, don' spread 
misinformation exhibiting your stupidity
- Original Message - 
From: "Avichal Bhatnagar via Ai" <ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in>

To: "Share, empower " <ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in>
Cc: "Avichal Bhatnagar" <coolavic...@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 1:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Ai] Dr. Saibaba's Letter From Jail: "I Do Not Think I Will 
Survive This Winter"




So, the rabble-rousers who were thrown out from another mailing list
some years back have started using accessindia as a platform to
promote their divisive communal agenda, I see.
Since the professor wrote the letter in such a pleading language, so
we all decided the case in his favour.
Did we even bother to check the other side as well? Moreover, even if
there is negligence on the part of the prison authorities, court
should be approached, not protest on streets.

On 10/30/17, P. Subramani via Ai <ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in> 
wrote:

since he was an english professor, used all his skills in writing such
deceiptive letter,  he pleads under the shadow of disability, now that 
the

courts have convicted for serious crimes,  all those supporting his so
called innocence are liable for action on contempt of courts, he is 
bearing

the fruits  of his anti-national activities,  he doesn't deserve
piety/sympathy
- Original Message -
From: "gatak singh via Ai" <ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in>
To: "Share, empower " <ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in>
Cc: "gatak singh" <gataksingh.gurud...@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 11:39 AM
Subject: Re: [Ai] Dr. Saibaba's Letter From Jail: "I Do Not Think I Will
Survive This Winter"



the letter is heart touching. hope he gets the bail soon.

On 10/30/17, Shireen Irani via Ai <ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in>
wrote:

NEW DELHI: Dr G.N.Saibaba Professor at Delhi University and now in
solitary confinement in Nagpur Central Jail has spoken out for help.
Disabled, he has
been branded a Maoist and sentenced to life imprisonment. The
sentencing has been controversial with many who supported and defended
the Professor insisting
that he has been persecuted by governments for raising a voice against
paramilitary operations in the primarily tribal Adivasi belts of
central and eastern
India.

The government has not entertained these arguments, and nor have the
courts, with THE Professor, 90 per cent disabled and suffering from
multiple ailments,
himself writing in this letter to his wife Vasantha that he might not
be able to survive the winter months in jail. He has been convicted
under the Unlawful
Activities (Prevention) Act in what those convinced of his innocence
describe as a travesty of justice.

The letter was written on October 17 and received by his wife on
October 25. It reads as follows:

Dear Vasantha

I am frightened to think of coming winter. Already I am shivering with
continuous fever. I do not have a blanket. I do not have a
sweater/jacket. As temperature
goes down excruciating pain continuously in my legs and left hand
increases. It is impossible for me to survive here during the winter
that starts from
November.

I am living here like an animal taking its last breaths. Somehow 8
months I managed to survive. But I am not going to survive in the
coming winter. I am
sure. It is of no use to write about my health any longer.

In any case, please finalize the senior counsel by or before the end
of this month. Then inform Mr. Gadling to file my bail application in
the first week
of November or last week of October itself. You remember if this is
not done in this way, my situation will be out of hands. I am not
responsible. I am
making clear to you. Hereafter I am not going to write about it any
longer.

You should talk to Mrs Rebeccaji and Nandita Narain. You also talk to
Prof. Haragopal and others. Explain the entire situation. You need to
hurry up.

I am feeling so depressed for requesting you all so many times like a
beggar, a destitute. But none of you are moving an inch, no one
understand my present
condition. No one understands 90% disabled person is behind bars
struggling with one hand in condition and suffering with multiple
ailments. And no one
cares for my life. This is simply criminal negligence, a callous
attitude.

Please take care of your health. Your health is my health and entire
family’s health. There is no one else to take care of your health for
now. Till I
am in your presence, you have to take care of your health without any
negligence.

Lots of love

Yours

Sai


Source:

http://www.thecitizen.in/index.php/NewsDetail/index/1/12100/Saibabas-Letter-From-Jail-I-Do-Not-Think-I-Will-Survive-

Re: [Ai] Dr. Saibaba's Letter From Jail: "I Do Not Think I Will Survive This Winter"

[P. Subramani via Ai]

since he was an english professor, used all his skills in writing such 
deceiptive letter,  he pleads under the shadow of disability, now that the 
courts have convicted for serious crimes,  all those supporting his so 
called innocence are liable for action on contempt of courts, he is bearing 
the fruits  of his anti-national activities,  he doesn't deserve 
piety/sympathy
- Original Message - 
From: "gatak singh via Ai" 

To: "Share, empower " 
Cc: "gatak singh" 
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 11:39 AM
Subject: Re: [Ai] Dr. Saibaba's Letter From Jail: "I Do Not Think I Will 
Survive This Winter"




the letter is heart touching. hope he gets the bail soon.

On 10/30/17, Shireen Irani via Ai  
wrote:

NEW DELHI: Dr G.N.Saibaba Professor at Delhi University and now in
solitary confinement in Nagpur Central Jail has spoken out for help.
Disabled, he has
been branded a Maoist and sentenced to life imprisonment. The
sentencing has been controversial with many who supported and defended
the Professor insisting
that he has been persecuted by governments for raising a voice against
paramilitary operations in the primarily tribal Adivasi belts of
central and eastern
India.

The government has not entertained these arguments, and nor have the
courts, with THE Professor, 90 per cent disabled and suffering from
multiple ailments,
himself writing in this letter to his wife Vasantha that he might not
be able to survive the winter months in jail. He has been convicted
under the Unlawful
Activities (Prevention) Act in what those convinced of his innocence
describe as a travesty of justice.

The letter was written on October 17 and received by his wife on
October 25. It reads as follows:

Dear Vasantha

I am frightened to think of coming winter. Already I am shivering with
continuous fever. I do not have a blanket. I do not have a
sweater/jacket. As temperature
goes down excruciating pain continuously in my legs and left hand
increases. It is impossible for me to survive here during the winter
that starts from
November.

I am living here like an animal taking its last breaths. Somehow 8
months I managed to survive. But I am not going to survive in the
coming winter. I am
sure. It is of no use to write about my health any longer.

In any case, please finalize the senior counsel by or before the end
of this month. Then inform Mr. Gadling to file my bail application in
the first week
of November or last week of October itself. You remember if this is
not done in this way, my situation will be out of hands. I am not
responsible. I am
making clear to you. Hereafter I am not going to write about it any 
longer.


You should talk to Mrs Rebeccaji and Nandita Narain. You also talk to
Prof. Haragopal and others. Explain the entire situation. You need to
hurry up.

I am feeling so depressed for requesting you all so many times like a
beggar, a destitute. But none of you are moving an inch, no one
understand my present
condition. No one understands 90% disabled person is behind bars
struggling with one hand in condition and suffering with multiple
ailments. And no one
cares for my life. This is simply criminal negligence, a callous 
attitude.


Please take care of your health. Your health is my health and entire
family’s health. There is no one else to take care of your health for
now. Till I
am in your presence, you have to take care of your health without any
negligence.

Lots of love

Yours

Sai


Source:

http://www.thecitizen.in/index.php/NewsDetail/index/1/12100/Saibabas-Letter-From-Jail-I-Do-Not-Think-I-Will-Survive-This-Winter


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Re: [Ai] win 10 updates!

[P. Subramani via Ai]

indeed I tried meterred connections, but still  few updates are still being 
downloaded/installed
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From: "Ajay Minocha via Ai" <ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in>

To: "Share, empower " <ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in>
Cc: "Ajay Minocha" <ajayminoc...@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 12:44 AM
Subject: Re: [Ai] win 10 updates!



Have you tried metered connection?

On 29/10/2017, P. Subramani via Ai <ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in> 
wrote:

true,  but it consumes lots of data impeeding the data usage
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From: "sheik mohammedali via Ai" <ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in>
To: "Share, empower " <ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in>
Cc: "sheik mohammedali" <shahid.se...@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2017 12:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Ai] win 10 updates!



it is not a good idea to disable the windows updates for sake of
security.

Sent from my iPhone


On 29-Oct-2017, at 11:40 AM, P. Subramani via Ai
<ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in> wrote:

have already done the same, despite this,  it still gets updated, I 
have


made changes to local policy and registry as well
- Original Message - From: "Ajay Minocha via Ai"
<ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in>
To: "Share, empower " <ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in>
Cc: "Ajay Minocha" <ajayminoc...@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2017 12:48 AM
Subject: Re: [Ai] win 10 updates!



Hi,

Go to windows update settings and then set windows not to install
updates for few days.

Alternatively, go to your wi-fi network's settings and make it a
metered connection. Updates generally don't get downloaded over a
metered connection.

Hope this helps,
Ajay

On 28/10/2017, P. Subramani via Ai 
<ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in>


wrote:
I am using win 10 64 bit gets updated on its own thereby using lots 
of


data,
so how to prevent win 10 from updating? kindly advice, thanks and
regards,
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Re: [Ai] win 10 updates!

[P. Subramani via Ai]

have already done the same, despite this,  it still gets updated, I have 
made changes to local policy and registry as well
- Original Message - 
From: "Ajay Minocha via Ai" <ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in>

To: "Share, empower " <ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in>
Cc: "Ajay Minocha" <ajayminoc...@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2017 12:48 AM
Subject: Re: [Ai] win 10 updates!



Hi,

Go to windows update settings and then set windows not to install
updates for few days.

Alternatively, go to your wi-fi network's settings and make it a
metered connection. Updates generally don't get downloaded over a
metered connection.

Hope this helps,
Ajay

On 28/10/2017, P. Subramani via Ai <ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in> 
wrote:
I am using win 10 64 bit gets updated on its own thereby using lots of 
data,
so how to prevent win 10 from updating? kindly advice, thanks and 
regards,

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[Ai] win 10 updates!

[P. Subramani via Ai]

I am using win 10 64 bit gets updated on its own thereby using lots of data, so 
how to prevent win 10 from updating? kindly advice, thanks and regards,
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Re: [Ai] Request for printer recommendation.

[P. Subramani via Ai]

I would suggest hp3545, google for specs and price
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To: "Connect, share and enrich" ; 
"Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobiledevices 
like phones and Tabs set up on November 15 2012." 


Cc: "Kakarla Nageswaraiah" 
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2017 7:08 PM
Subject: [Ai] Request for printer recommendation.



Dear All,
One of my friends wants to buy a WiFi-enabled multi-purpose printer to
use with his laptop as well as mobile.  Please recommend one which is
accessible for us.
Thanks and regards.


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Re: [Ai] Representation to RBI for accessible Indian Currency, an update on meeting with RBI

[P. Subramani via Ai]

then the only choice for RBI is to retain 10mm size difference between 
various notes

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- Original Message - 
From: "Kanchan Pamnani via Ai" <ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in>

To: "'Share, empower '" <ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in>
Cc: "Kanchan Pamnani" <kanchanpamn...@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 11:40 AM
Subject: Re: [Ai] Representation to RBI for accessible Indian Currency, an 
update on meeting with RBI




Bhiwani
RBI says no cuts on paper.
I have seen the new 10 pound note. The dots are  clear but then the note 
is in plastic and not on paper.

Kanchan

-Original Message-
From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of 
bhawani shankar verma via Ai

Sent: 24 September 2017 15:19
To: Share, empower 
Cc: bhawani shankar verma
Subject: Re: [Ai] Representation to RBI for accessible Indian Currency, an 
update on meeting with RBI


braille numbers won't last longer. hence I suggest that there should be 
cuts of different shapes on the corners of notes.



-Original Message- 
From: Misbah via Ai

Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2017 12:44 PM
To: Share, empower 
Cc: Misbah
Subject: Re: [Ai] Representation to RBI for accessible Indian Currency, an
update on meeting with RBI

Hats off to the entire team for meeting and sensitizing the RBI
officials. As someone rightly stated, it is (RBI) n only an
implementing body so we should strongly push this key concern with
Government officials and honorable Courts. In my View also the
different sizes of the notes are the more practical solution. We can
also think of embossing Braille numbers in terms of 50, 100, 200
numbers respectively at each corners of the currency bills.  In the
meanwhile, we can use different pockets of our purses for
differentiating the currency or can try to use as much as possible the
digital payment system.

On 9/23/17, P. Subramani via Ai <ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in> 
wrote:

meetings with ower people of rbi and the ministry  although good will not
get any steps forward as they are bound by certain rules, also they are
mere
implementers rather than decision-makers,  the last possible option is to
meet the finance minister to explain equovically the blind aren't able
identify these new notes, the same should be withdrawn and restore the
sizes
of old notes, even if they have  croers on new designs etc.,  its their
headache to have come up with solutions including for the blind,  we must
bring  this to pm's attention to find a immediate/suitable solution, or
else,  we will be left in the dark in the use of new notes
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- Original Message -
From: "Ketan Kothari via Ai" <ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in>
To: "Share, empower " <ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in>
Cc: "Ketan Kothari" <muktake...@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 12:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Ai] Representation to RBI for accessible Indian Currency, 
an

update on meeting with RBI



Dear Friends,

Extremely good work.   I remember having participated in at least 2
meetings of this nature.  Unfortunately, not much has yielded.  Also,
the problem of coins is equally challenging and is getting worse.

Actually, I feel that we must take up this issue with the minister of
finance as at a certain level, RBI is also bound by executive orders.

With best wishes,

Ketan

On 9/20/17, Blind Graduates' Forum of India (BGFI) via Ai
<ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in> wrote:

Hi all,

Here is a brief update on our meeting with RBI authorities.
We had Kanchan Pamnani, Suhas Karnik, Amar Jain and myself Vishal
Kumar Jain attending the meeting. First of all thanks a lot for all
those who have supported with a lot of ground work and those who wrote
to the authorities which enabled us have this meeting in the first
place.

We discussed on each of the points highlighted in the representation.
The RBI team was relatively new to the subject and unfortunately they
were not updated with earlier conversations on it. Overall it was a
much needed discussion and the team was receptive to listen to our
suggestions. However the team avoided making any commitments. Below
are the key highlights:
1. The longest conversation was on size variation which remains a
major issue. If RBI goes ahead with their plan, the size variation of
notes will come down from 10mm to around 4mm with the introduction of
new Rs. 100, Rs. 20 and Rs. 10 notes. More over the width of all the
notes is expected to be the same (66mm). This will make it close to
impossible for us to identify the notes. While the team understood our
concerns, they expressed their own challenge of maintaining variation
due to reduction in overall size of the notes.
2. The team was taken aback to understand that the bleed line and
tactile markings are not perceivable

Re: [Ai] Representation to RBI for accessible Indian Currency, an update on meeting with RBI

[P. Subramani via Ai]

meetings with ower people of rbi and the ministry  although good will not 
get any steps forward as they are bound by certain rules, also they are mere 
implementers rather than decision-makers,  the last possible option is to 
meet the finance minister to explain equovically the blind aren't able 
identify these new notes, the same should be withdrawn and restore the sizes 
of old notes, even if they have  croers on new designs etc.,  its their 
headache to have come up with solutions including for the blind,  we must 
bring  this to pm's attention to find a immediate/suitable solution, or 
else,  we will be left in the dark in the use of new notes

E-Mail:  subramani6...@gmail.com
Mob:  9738150192

- Original Message - 
From: "Ketan Kothari via Ai" 

To: "Share, empower " 
Cc: "Ketan Kothari" 
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 12:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Ai] Representation to RBI for accessible Indian Currency, an 
update on meeting with RBI




Dear Friends,

Extremely good work.   I remember having participated in at least 2
meetings of this nature.  Unfortunately, not much has yielded.  Also,
the problem of coins is equally challenging and is getting worse.

Actually, I feel that we must take up this issue with the minister of
finance as at a certain level, RBI is also bound by executive orders.

With best wishes,

Ketan

On 9/20/17, Blind Graduates' Forum of India (BGFI) via Ai
 wrote:

Hi all,

Here is a brief update on our meeting with RBI authorities.
We had Kanchan Pamnani, Suhas Karnik, Amar Jain and myself Vishal
Kumar Jain attending the meeting. First of all thanks a lot for all
those who have supported with a lot of ground work and those who wrote
to the authorities which enabled us have this meeting in the first
place.

We discussed on each of the points highlighted in the representation.
The RBI team was relatively new to the subject and unfortunately they
were not updated with earlier conversations on it. Overall it was a
much needed discussion and the team was receptive to listen to our
suggestions. However the team avoided making any commitments. Below
are the key highlights:
1. The longest conversation was on size variation which remains a
major issue. If RBI goes ahead with their plan, the size variation of
notes will come down from 10mm to around 4mm with the introduction of
new Rs. 100, Rs. 20 and Rs. 10 notes. More over the width of all the
notes is expected to be the same (66mm). This will make it close to
impossible for us to identify the notes. While the team understood our
concerns, they expressed their own challenge of maintaining variation
due to reduction in overall size of the notes.
2. The team was taken aback to understand that the bleed line and
tactile markings are not perceivable. They accepted the fact and
confirmed to prioritize on finding a solution to make it perceivable.
They also expressed technical challenges in making it happen.
3. Inputs on low vision friendly features was welcomed and they plan
to continue with contrast color, color variation, font size, etc.
4. Fake notes issue was acknowledge and they thought of focusing on
perceptible tactile markings and keeping the texture of notes
different from normal paper.
5. The team confirmed to pass on inputs related to issues other than
currency notes to relevant departments and discussion on accessible
websites and apps was in brief.
6. Most importantly we discovered that RBI had interactions with NGOs
and teams like us in the past. However the inputs and suggestions have
not been valued given the fact they have gone ahead with lower size
variation and unperceivable tactile markings in the new notes.

So on the whole the meeting was productive in sensitizing the team on
our needs. At the same time it doesn’t assure of our issues getting
sufficiently addressed any time soon. Unless we intensify our voice
and raise the issue on all possible forums, we will end up having
notes with very little size variation making it highly inaccessible.
We will continue our effort on this. However we would need more active
involvement from each of you and your network to really get them to
act on our suggestions.

Thanks and regards,
Team BGFI.



On 9/18/17, Blind Graduates' Forum of India (BGFI)
 wrote:

Dear all,

Please find below the representation that we intend to share and
discuss with RBI during our meeting in person. Have incorporate
recommendations considering short term and long term needs of persons
with visual impairment. The meeting is tomorrow, so please share your
feedback if any by today night.

---

To
Governor
Reserve Bank of India
Mumbai.
Subject: Representation to make Indian Currency notes easily
identifiable for the blind citizens

Respected sir,
Blind Graduates Forum of India brings to your kind notice the issue of
difficult-to-use Indian currency 

Re: [Ai] Restrict discussion on the NAB Delhi incident

[P. Subramani via Ai]

having robust mechanism is one thing, but it took 24 hours for NAB to approach 
police which in itself questions your so called robust mechanism
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  - Original Message - 
  From: Srinivasu Chakravarthula via Ai 
  To: Share, empower  
  Cc: Srinivasu Chakravarthula 
  Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 1:01 PM
  Subject: Re: [Ai] Restrict discussion on the NAB Delhi incident


  completely agree. Glad to know that NAB Delhi has a robus mechanism to deal 
with all student related issues. Prashant, Can you please share more details 
about the mechanism that NAB Delhi has so that same can be replicated to across 
the institutions. 


  Thanks,
  -Srinivasu


  Regards,

  Srinivasu Chakravarthula - Twitter: http://twitter.com/CSrinivasu/ 
  Website: http://www.srinivasu.org | http://serveominclusion.com 


  Let's create an inclusive web!



  Lead Accessibility Consultant, Informatica





  On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 12:35 PM, Avichal Bhatnagar via Ai 
 wrote:

The incident which happened in NAB's premises is no doubt unfortunate,
and against the sanctity of a temple of learning. However, using the
incident to malign  the institute as a whole for no falt of their's is
utterly preposterous.
Being an alumnus of NAB, I must say that it provides a very safe and
secure environment to its residents. Moreover, it also has a robust
mechanism to deal with all student related issues.

On 9/8/17, B. R. Nautial via Ai  wrote:
> Of course! This incident is quite unfortunate & should be condemned  by
> everyone. Management should have rearn a lesson  by this bad incident and
> should be taken appropriate stepps to avoid these incident in future 
because
> in my openion, this incident could take place only because of security
> lepses on their end. but Fully agree with Manocha ji. Noone should have
> permited to give any statement in front of media at all. If someone do 
like
> this without prepermission of management,appropriate action should have
> taken against him/her.
> As I already mentioned in my previous mail, its not good for the image of
> the institution as well. The case has already been handed over to the
> police, so let them do their investigation and wait for the result.
>   - Original Message -
>   From: Dipendra Manocha via Ai
>   To: 'Share, empower '
>   Cc: Dipendra Manocha
>   Sent: Thursday, September 7, 2017 8:22 PM
>   Subject: Re: [Ai] Restrict discussion on the NAB Delhi incident
>
>
>   Do you really feel that children should be facing  mainstream media in
> such cases?
>
>
>
>   The media itself is more sensitive than what is been said here. They
> themselves know that they are not supposed to be speaking to minors and
> putting them through  any such humiliations.
>
>
>
>   Please stop spreading rumors based on so called reliable sources or
> baseless allegations being leveled by  an individuals on any unverifiable
> public forums.
>
>
>
>   Knowingly or unknowingly, such unfounded loose talk may help the 
offenders
> and weaken our fight against them.
>
>
>
>   Be rest assured that  as result of investigations, if anyone is found
> guilty, will have the face the consequences.
>
>
>
>   Thanks
>
>   Dipendra
>
>
>
>
>
>   From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf 
Of
> r k sarin via Ai
>   Sent: 07 September 2017 19:29
>   To: Share, empower  
>   Cc: r k sarin 
>   Subject: Re: [Ai] Restrict discussion on the NAB Delhi incident
>
>
>
>   We have come to know some reliable sources that the students are
> disallowing to contact media.
>
> - Original Message -
>
> From: Kanchan Pamnani via Ai
>
> To: 'Share, empower '
>
> Cc: Kanchan Pamnani
>
> Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 6:52 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [Ai] Restrict discussion on the NAB Delhi incident
>
>
>
> Sarinji
>
> I  do not think the discussion should be closed. Even if we close it 
on
> accessindia the press will still carry it and Avinash and others will copy
> it for us.
>
> I however think that the reporting to the police has been a good step.
>
> I also think that my advice to Prashant that  he must track the matter
> is sound advice.NAB Delhi is going to be harassed by many and we in the
> sector must atleast criticise only after knowing facts.
>
> Now the next set of problems who will you protect the kids from and to
> what extent?
>
> Avinash 

Re: [Ai] Denial of Banking services

[P. Subramani via Ai]

well that's their property, they have every right  to choose the tenants, 
for instance, I will neverever rent out my property to drivers in particular 
for some specific reasons

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From: "gatak singh via Ai" 

To: "Share, empower " 
Cc: "gatak singh" 
Sent: Friday, August 04, 2017 3:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Ai] Denial of Banking services



some people even deny to give house in rent for visually challenged.

On 8/4/17, bhawani shankar verma via Ai
 wrote:
Sir, specially is difficult to provide information on point no.6 and 7. 
in

genral practice, public service official don’t disclose there names and
don’t give any written refusal.
and george sir, this left right combination applies to all the government
and public sectors, even private sectors. we can not blame bankers only.
we can take example from railway counters. also denial of admision in
schools and colleges.


From: Kotian, H P via Ai
Sent: Friday, August 04, 2017 12:45 PM
To: Share, empower 
Cc: Kotian, H P
Subject: [Ai] Denial of Banking services

All



I will be attending a meeting with Indian Bankers Association (IBA) on 
the

above subject. It is often told by the Banks, there is no discrimination
done to the disabled. However, we know in the ground reality it is not 
the

case.

We want to document and present the facts during the meeting.



If you or if you know of any disabled person to whom banking services has
been denied owing to disability, Please furnish the following 
information:




1 Name

2 Bank and Branch

3 Services requested

4 Nature of denial

5 Approximate date of the incident.

6 Name or designation of the official in the Bank.

7 Any documentation or email denying the fascility.



Please send by 8th August on my email: hp.kot...@gmail.com



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Re: [Ai] Abhishek Behl reported in Hindustan Times yesterday: Gurgaon: Blind banker gets 10-year jail for raping blind woman

[P. Subramani via Ai]

in the end, it seems all laws are gender-biased towards women  including 
section498A, a sighted person wouldn't have received this quantum of 
punishment, obviously women are taking undue advantage of such laws,  many 
courts have made observations about gender-biased laws,  this lower court's 
judgement should be challenged in the higher courts where obviously judges 
are much more learned, in most instances,  decisions are reversed in the 
higher courts, media always reports such wrong things perpetrated by the 
disabled persons, they neverever report brighter achievements of  our 
community

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- Original Message - 
From: "vivek doddamani via Ai" 

To: "Share, empower " 
Cc: "vivek doddamani" 
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2017 4:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Ai] Abhishek Behl reported in Hindustan Times yesterday: 
Gurgaon: Blind banker gets 10-year jail for raping blind woman




anything it may be my suggestion is the convict should go to high court

On 7/27/17, Mahendra Galani via Ai  
wrote:

Vivek, it is very easy to say then to do.
we men may never understand the Shame felt by women.
it takes enough currege to do it, specially for the disabled women,
and dont forget, court found argument good enough to handover this
punishment.
we may talk about number of years given,however
to comment more based on this artical, is for me dificult.






At 03:28 PM 7/27/2017 +0530, you wrote:

I agree this person had taken her to guest house
to meet an advocate and then he raped her after
coming out she could have immediately complained
to the guest house staff or to police, if the
sex was not occurred without her consent then
why she did not screem or shout for help,, here
notice that the man was also blind & woman could
have easily escaped from him and called for
help, here it is clearly understood that sex was
with full consent not rape by force. On 7/26/17,
swati saxena via Ai
 wrote: > So
according to some of the views, does this case
does not demand any > form of punishment? Is the
woman not a victim in any form? > > Absolutely,
it should not be viewed from disability point of
view. > However I not at all agree that it was a
consensual sexual > relationship. > > It is
clearly stated in the article that she was raped
in the guest > house in the pretext of meeting
an advocate. Is raping someone does > not call
for punishment? If it is believed that this is
something > which does not demand punishment of
any form, then I question the > sensitivity and
understanding of what does rape means for a
women. > > Also even if it is consent (though I
don't subscribe to this view), > then we also
need to look what does consent means. If consent
means > first victimizing someone, doing crime
against them, above all showing > a rosy future,
leaving no alternative for them (which all
happened in > this case) and then asking for
consent then I agree it was a > consensual
sexual relationship. But if consent means an
absolute free > will of a person, without any
burden, any dependency then this may not > be a
consensual sex but still demands punishment. > >
If we go through the facts of the case, the
victim was first raped and > then they entered
into a relationship of whatever kind was it. > >
I will reiterate my previous belief that the
punishment is absolutely > welcome (though
people may question quantum) for what happened
in the > guest house. No rapist must be spared
measured from what so ever > yardstick. Rapists
must be given the harshest punishment demanded
of > whatever kind. > > > > On 7/26/17, B. R.
Nautial via Ai
 wrote: >>
No. I think, this harsh punishment would have
not given to a normal >> person. >> Generally,
in every society, there's a big sympathey for
disabled, >> specially >> for visually impaired
but if he is involve in such a bad incident,
that >> sympathey takes a different way and in
such cases, judiciary will give him >> the
maximum punishment. >> - Original Message
- >> From: "SPARSH GUPTA via Ai"
 >> To:
"Share, empower "
 >> Cc:
"SPARSH GUPTA"  >>
Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 6:19 PM >>
Subject: Re: [Ai] Abhishek Behl reported in
Hindustan Times yesterday: >> Gurgaon: Blind
banker gets 10-year jail for raping blind
woman >> >> >>> Dear friends, >>> >>> first off,
I think it is very wrong on member's part to
jump on >>> conclusions without knowing the full
facts and without reading the >>> full judgement
as that would be the proper source to understand
the >>> opinion of the H'ble Judge in light of
the facts and circumstances of >>> the matter
under consideration. >>> >>> Although the way
report in Hindustan 

Re: [Ai] mahila cricket world cup final

[P. Subramani via Ai]

http://gir.fm/?play=del-1064 

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  - Original Message - 
  From: Sakina Dhariwala via Ai 
  To: Share, empower  
  Cc: Sakina Dhariwala 
  Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2017 4:37 PM
  Subject: Re: [Ai] mahila cricket world cup final


  Hi sir, I want the link for P.C.

- Original Message - 
From: bhawani shankar verma via Ai 
To: Share, empower  
Cc: bhawani shankar verma 
Sent: July 23, 2017 11:03 AM
Subject: Re: [Ai] mahila cricket world cup final


hope that in your region a primary MW channel shall broadcast its running 
commentry. here our regional primary MW channel (ALL INDIA RADIO RAIPUR) shall 
broadcast it, same should be their at your region.


From: Sakina Dhariwala via Ai 
Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2017 7:53 AM
To: Share, empower  
Cc: Sakina Dhariwala 
Subject: Re: [Ai] mahila cricket world cup final

Hi, can I get the link for 
AIRFM Gold?
Thanks and regards Sakina.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Vikas Kapoor via Ai 
  To: Share, empower  
  Cc: Vikas Kapoor 
  Sent: July 22, 2017 09:14 PM
  Subject: Re: [Ai] mahila cricket world cup final

  AIRFM Gold!
- Original Message - 
From: gajendra vyas via Ai 
To: accessindia mailing list 
Cc: gajendra vyas 
Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2017 8:49 PM
Subject: [Ai] mahila cricket world cup final

regards to friends . 
is it live comentary available anywhere ?
gajendra vyas 
phone : 079-48000204
mobile : 9427065866



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[Ai] JAWS Issue!

[P. Subramani via Ai]

Friends, I installed j18 on my laptop using win 10 64 bit, but unfortunately, 
jaws isn't speaking anything,  I am able to play other audio stuff,  kindly 
suggest  solutions,  with thanks and regards, 
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Re: [Ai] purchasing a scanner and printer

[P. Subramani via Ai]

hp 3545 seems to be ok, I am using it efficiently, occasionally, useful to 
take a few photocopies as well rather than running to the shop

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- Original Message - 
From: "Umesha S E via Ai" 

To: 
Cc: "Umesha S E" 
Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2017 8:39 AM
Subject: [Ai] purchasing a scanner and printer



Dear friends,

I want to buy a good quality scanner in reasonable price as my old
scanner is beyond repair. I have 2 models in my mind hp laserjet m1005
and canon mf3010. both are multifunction i.e. scanner and printer and
laser printers. why I chose these is due to fact that they can scan
faster than my earlier hp scanjet 2400. also, the printer
functionality can be useful occasionally to print few pages and take
xerox instead of wandering to dtp and xerox shops. any other model can
also be suggested.

Umesha S E
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