Bug#243857: Patch has been available in Ubuntu

2010-03-16 Thread Frans Pop
tags 243857 + pending
thanks

On Tuesday 16 March 2010, Joshua Kwan wrote:
 Looks like this bug hasn't seen action for quite a while. It seems like
 in the meantime, Ubuntu has fixed this bug. Check out this patch:
 http://launchpadlibrarian.net/18656164/cdrom-detect-better-flow.patch

Thanks for the pointer.

 This code is in their current version of cdrom-detect and seems to work
 well in the exact same situation that d-i fails. Can we get this patch
 backported?

Part of the patch is already in our code. I've ported the rest and done 
some additional refactoring. Will commit after testing in the next few 
days.

 I can do a NMU if there is no real maintainer willing to step up.

An NMU (upload not from the D-I SVN repo) is never really a solution in the 
case of D-I as it tends to increase rather than reduce the work for 
maintainers. In general NMUs should not be needed where packages are 
maintained by a generally active team.
It also seems not indicated in this case as this is the first time a patch 
has been suggested for the issue.

Providing (preferably tested) patches against current SVN helps maintainers 
a lot more and is very much appreciated. Pinging maintainers on bug 
reports is also always appreciated.

Cheers,
FJP



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Bug#243857: Patch has been available in Ubuntu

2010-03-16 Thread Frans Pop
Hi Joshua,

On Tuesday 16 March 2010, Joshua Kwan wrote:
 Looks like this bug hasn't seen action for quite a while. It seems like
 in the meantime, Ubuntu has fixed this bug. Check out this patch:

 http://launchpadlibrarian.net/18656164/cdrom-detect-better-flow.patch

Thanks for the pointer.

 I can do a NMU if there is no real maintainer willing to step up.

An NMU is not required (and does not really reduce the work of maintainers 
anyway).

But a proper patch, preferably tested, that applies to the current version 
of the source package and that does not log messages saying Ubuntu would 
be most welcome. I would suggest changing the message to ... is not a 
valid installation CD (especially as it does not actually test if it is a 
Debian or Ubuntu CD; if you'd happen to have a Debian CD in one drive and 
an Ubuntu CD in the other, it would accept either...).

Cheers,
FJP



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Bug#243857: Patch has been available in Ubuntu

2010-03-16 Thread Frans Pop
On Tuesday 16 March 2010, Frans Pop wrote:
 On Tuesday 16 March 2010, Joshua Kwan wrote:
  Looks like this bug hasn't seen action for quite a while. It seems
  like in the meantime, Ubuntu has fixed this bug. Check out this patch:
 
  http://launchpadlibrarian.net/18656164/cdrom-detect-better-flow.patch

 Thanks for the pointer.

  I can do a NMU if there is no real maintainer willing to step up.

 An NMU is not required (and does not really reduce the work of
 maintainers anyway).

 But a proper patch, preferably tested, that applies to the current
 version of the source package and that does not log messages saying
 Ubuntu would be most welcome. I would suggest changing the message to
 ... is not a valid installation CD (especially as it does not actually
 test if it is a Debian or Ubuntu CD; if you'd happen to have a Debian CD
 in one drive and an Ubuntu CD in the other, it would accept either...).

Please ignore this mail. Apparently I had two versions open and by mistake 
also sent this early draft.



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Re: Getting d-i to find firmware on the CD generated by debian-cd

2010-03-16 Thread Frans Pop
On Tuesday 16 March 2010, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
 Further testing of this fix proved that it is insufficient.  hw-detect
 call check-missing-firmware, which look on several devices (disk, USB
 sticks, floppies) for firmware, but fail to look on the CD itself.
 This, I must admit, is very sad.  I had a look at the source of
 check-missing-firmware and saw it was looking in the firmware/
 directory of several devices, and assumed it would also check the boot
 media, but no. :(

 Should hw-detect also look for firmware on the CD?

I think the problem with that is that including the firmware on the CD in 
the first place is in contradiction with Debian's current policy not to 
include firmware in the distribution.
The current firmware support is very explicitly limited to support loading 
from external media *prepared by the user*.

An additional issue with non-free firmware is that including it in the way 
you propose would (I think) mean it will get loaded without any prompting 
of the user, which may in some cases violate licence terms.

I can see that others may want to do things differently, but I'm not sure 
how much we can/should support that in standard D-I functionality.

One option you have is to implement a custom, alternative version of
'mountmedia' for d-edu.

Cheers,
FJP

P.S. Personally I would like to have more default support for loading 
firmware, but IMO we cannot do that without discussion with the rest of 
the project.


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Re: Getting d-i to find firmware on the CD generated by debian-cd

2010-03-16 Thread Frans Pop
On Tuesday 16 March 2010, Holger Levsen wrote:
 On Dienstag, 16. März 2010, Frans Pop wrote:
  An additional issue with non-free firmware is that including it in the
  way you propose would (I think) mean it will get loaded without any
  prompting of the user, which may in some cases violate licence terms.

 i thought the same at first, but actually that's not the case. The user
 is still asked (by the package) if she wants to accept the licence. (As
 no preseeding takes place.)

But that's only at the point where the package gets installed in the target 
system. And at that point the firmware is already in use.

IMO a proper solution would ensure the licence dialog gets displayed before 
the firmware first gets loaded by the installer.


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Re: Getting d-i to find firmware on the CD generated by debian-cd

2010-03-16 Thread Frans Pop
On Tuesday 16 March 2010, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
 Actually, something causes main-menu to crash if I adjust mountmedia
 to return CD devices too, so I suspect it is better to adjust
 check-missing-firmware to also look in /cdrom/firmware/ for debs.

Probably because the CD is already mounted and in use and mountmedia messes 
that up?


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Re: Question for all candidates: Release process

2010-03-16 Thread Frans Pop
Reading Wouter's post in this thread just now I realize I made a fairly 
stupid mistake when writing my mail.

Frans Pop wrote:
 This seems to be what the RT has been focussing on after Sarge. [...]

s/Sarge/Etch/

 During the Sarge release these two sides were in balance. After that, for
 Sarge stable releases and the Lenny release, [...]

s/Sarge/Etch/


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Bug#574096: installation problem report

2010-03-16 Thread Frans Pop
On Tuesday 16 March 2010, Paul Jurczak wrote:
 Comments/Problems:
 I'm experimenting with various distributions and I successfully
 installed Ubuntu, Puppy, Fedora from USB Flash to USB Flash. Debian is
 the first distro, where I had to go USB CD to USB Flash route.

Debian supports all kinds of installation methods. Looks to me like you 
simply did not try the correct one. For installations from USB stick you 
should use the hd-media installation method.

Please see our installation guide.

Cheers,
FJP



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Bug#574096: installation problem report

2010-03-16 Thread Frans Pop
Please always reply to the BTS, not to the person responding.

On Tuesday 16 March 2010, you wrote:
 Thank you for quick response. Do you mean that copying
 hd-media/boot.img.gz and .iso image to USB Flash will result in
 different installation behavior than preparing USB Flash with LiveUSB
 Creator and plain .iso image?

I have no idea what LiveUSB Creator does. But if it only uses what's on the 
image it cannot work since, as you noticed, the installation image 
included on that will look for a CD *drive* instead of for a CD *image*.
The main feature of the hd-media installation image is that it looks for CD 
images.



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Re: Getting d-i to find firmware on the CD generated by debian-cd

2010-03-16 Thread Frans Pop
On Tuesday 16 March 2010, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
 Further testing of this fix proved that it is insufficient.  hw-detect
 call check-missing-firmware, which look on several devices (disk, USB
 sticks, floppies) for firmware, but fail to look on the CD itself.
 This, I must admit, is very sad.  I had a look at the source of
 check-missing-firmware and saw it was looking in the firmware/
 directory of several devices, and assumed it would also check the boot
 media, but no. :(

 Should hw-detect also look for firmware on the CD?

I think the problem with that is that including the firmware on the CD in 
the first place is in contradiction with Debian's current policy not to 
include firmware in the distribution.
The current firmware support is very explicitly limited to support loading 
from external media *prepared by the user*.

An additional issue with non-free firmware is that including it in the way 
you propose would (I think) mean it will get loaded without any prompting 
of the user, which may in some cases violate licence terms.

I can see that others may want to do things differently, but I'm not sure 
how much we can/should support that in standard D-I functionality.

One option you have is to implement a custom, alternative version of
'mountmedia' for d-edu.

Cheers,
FJP

P.S. Personally I would like to have more default support for loading 
firmware, but IMO we cannot do that without discussion with the rest of 
the project.


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Re: Getting d-i to find firmware on the CD generated by debian-cd

2010-03-16 Thread Frans Pop
On Tuesday 16 March 2010, Holger Levsen wrote:
 On Dienstag, 16. März 2010, Frans Pop wrote:
  An additional issue with non-free firmware is that including it in the
  way you propose would (I think) mean it will get loaded without any
  prompting of the user, which may in some cases violate licence terms.

 i thought the same at first, but actually that's not the case. The user
 is still asked (by the package) if she wants to accept the licence. (As
 no preseeding takes place.)

But that's only at the point where the package gets installed in the target 
system. And at that point the firmware is already in use.

IMO a proper solution would ensure the licence dialog gets displayed before 
the firmware first gets loaded by the installer.


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Re: Getting d-i to find firmware on the CD generated by debian-cd

2010-03-16 Thread Frans Pop
On Tuesday 16 March 2010, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
 Actually, something causes main-menu to crash if I adjust mountmedia
 to return CD devices too, so I suspect it is better to adjust
 check-missing-firmware to also look in /cdrom/firmware/ for debs.

Probably because the CD is already mounted and in use and mountmedia messes 
that up?


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Re: Installer fails due to invalid signatures

2010-03-16 Thread Frans Pop
reassign 573791 installation-reports
tag 573791 unreproducible needinfo
thanks

On Tuesday 16 March 2010, steve clark wrote:
 I sent a report to the debian bug reporting system (bug number 573791)
 but it seems to not have been taken serious, being shuffled between
 responsible owners.

I see it differently: you have an installation problem that nobody else is 
having and have not quite found the correct way to report it.

The reason your bug report was reassigned is that the original report had 
an incorrect syntax. So it is *not* being shuffled around; someone was 
merely trying to correct your incorrect initial reporting.
And please understand that reporting an issue incorrectly drastically 
increases the chance that it will be missed!

 Happens with other lives debian based systems (e.g. ubuntu 9.10 server)
 too.

Please report issues with Ubuntu installs to Ubuntu.

 I'm a novice Debian user (4 months), but have over 25 years across
 multiple systems and am a professional developer, so think I can
 recognise a must look at problem when I see one :)

In that case I would also expect you to recognize when a problem is so 
completely unlikely to escape the attention of the project publishing the 
software that it may well by an issue that's solely due to the 
inexperience of the user?
I can assure you that, if Lenny really was not installable, we would be 
flooded with reports. Fortunately that has not happened.

The fact that you consistently see the issue could also be explained by the 
fact that you're doing something consistently wrong maybe.

!! I have just tried an install using the 5.04 netinst and using the
!! ftp.uk.debian.org mirror without any problems.

There may have been a temporary problem with that particular mirror. If 
there was it appears to be solved now. Did you try different mirrors?

 I would further suggest that as it prevents any new installations of
 Debian since at least 11th March 2010, its serverity is a little higher
 than normal.

*If* the issue is confirmed to be a real issue *and* really affects all 
installations and not simply one isolated mirror, then yes. Until then a 
much more appropriate categorization is unreproducible, needs additional 
info.


Now, to try to solve your problem, assuming that you can still reproduce 
it, we will need additional information.

Please send us the syslog of a failed installation. You should be able to 
save it using the Save debug logs option in the main menu of the 
installer.
Please gzip the syslog before sending it and send your reply _only_ to 
573...@bugs.debian.org.

Cheers,
FJP


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Bug#573791: apt-get update in Debian 5.04 (lenny) failing since updates of 2010-03-11

2010-03-16 Thread Frans Pop
 Please note this log is taken just now using:
 debian 5.04 netinst business card image

I have just tried with the same image (for i386), using ftp.nl.d.o as 
mirror without any problems. My log looks similar to you, except that I 
get good signatures...

From my log:
Mar 16 17:41:08 choose-mirror[6970]: INFO: suite/codename set to: 
stable/lenny
[...]
Mar 16 16:42:18 main-menu[1044]: INFO: Menu item 'bootstrap-base' selected
Mar 16 16:42:21 debootstrap: gpgv: 
Mar 16 16:42:21 debootstrap: Signature made Fri Jan 29 23:18:35 2010 UTC 
using RSA key ID 55BE302B
Mar 16 16:42:21 debootstrap: gpgv: 
Mar 16 16:42:21 debootstrap: Good signature from Debian Archive Automatic 
Signing Key (5.0/lenny) ftpmas...@debian.org
Mar 16 16:42:21 debootstrap: 
Mar 16 16:42:21 debootstrap: gpgv: 
Mar 16 16:42:21 debootstrap: Signature made Fri Jan 29 23:25:01 2010 UTC 
using DSA key ID F42584E6
Mar 16 16:42:21 debootstrap: gpgv: 
Mar 16 16:42:21 debootstrap: Good signature from Lenny Stable Release Key 
debian-rele...@lists.debian.org


I wonder if somehow the files are getting corrupted during download.

Can you copy the following two files from the installer after a debootstrap 
failure and send them:
/target/var/lib/apt/lists/debootstrap.invalid_dists_lenny_Release
/target/var/lib/apt/lists/debootstrap.invalid_dists_lenny_Release.gpg

The first one should be zipped again.



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Bug#574158: firmware licenses never displayed

2010-03-16 Thread Frans Pop
On Tuesday 16 March 2010, Joey Hess wrote:
 3. Provide some way for firmware debs to communicate to d-i that they
    have a license the user needs to see, and have check-missing-firmware
    display these licenses before the firmware is ever used.

This is the option that I have had in the back of my mind for some time.

I think for really structural support of firmware, we could repackage it 
like we do for kernel modules and include meta data (partially? 
automatically generated) about the deb something was taken from + licence 
requirements.

That would also allow to e.g. skip old versions of firmware.

My personal opinion is that it should actually be quite OK to include 
non-free firmware *udebs* on (CD) images as long as
- the licence in no way limits distribution;
- we never allow use of any non-free firmware without explicit ack
  by the user.

The *debs* should IMO always be either downloaded from a mirror (using 
standard apt-install) with fallback support for installing them from an 
external medium.

Under those conditions I think the project might be persuaded to accept 
inclusion of firmware in D-I images and on CDs.

We should of course keep support for loading firmware that does not match 
these criteria from external media.



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Bug#243857: Patch has been available in Ubuntu

2010-03-16 Thread Frans Pop
tags 243857 + pending
thanks

On Tuesday 16 March 2010, Joshua Kwan wrote:
 Looks like this bug hasn't seen action for quite a while. It seems like
 in the meantime, Ubuntu has fixed this bug. Check out this patch:
 http://launchpadlibrarian.net/18656164/cdrom-detect-better-flow.patch

Thanks for the pointer.

 This code is in their current version of cdrom-detect and seems to work
 well in the exact same situation that d-i fails. Can we get this patch
 backported?

Part of the patch is already in our code. I've ported the rest and done 
some additional refactoring. Will commit after testing in the next few 
days.

 I can do a NMU if there is no real maintainer willing to step up.

An NMU (upload not from the D-I SVN repo) is never really a solution in the 
case of D-I as it tends to increase rather than reduce the work for 
maintainers. In general NMUs should not be needed where packages are 
maintained by a generally active team.
It also seems not indicated in this case as this is the first time a patch 
has been suggested for the issue.

Providing (preferably tested) patches against current SVN helps maintainers 
a lot more and is very much appreciated. Pinging maintainers on bug 
reports is also always appreciated.

Cheers,
FJP



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Re: Problem with local repository

2010-03-16 Thread Frans Pop
On Tuesday 16 March 2010, Hugo Alberto Perlin wrote:
 I'm trying to install Debian using the NetInst CD and a local repository
 created using the apt-mirror app.
 The installation with the local repository make the downloads of the
 first part well. But in the second part, when it need 5 files, it
 requires the internet. Anybody knows what could be happen? 

What exactly do you mean by first part and second part?

Are you sure that the packages in your local repository have a higher 
package version than the ones available on the mirror (including security 
updates!)?

Cheers,
FJP


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Bug#243857: Patch has been available in Ubuntu

2010-03-16 Thread Frans Pop
Hi Joshua,

On Tuesday 16 March 2010, Joshua Kwan wrote:
 Looks like this bug hasn't seen action for quite a while. It seems like
 in the meantime, Ubuntu has fixed this bug. Check out this patch:

 http://launchpadlibrarian.net/18656164/cdrom-detect-better-flow.patch

Thanks for the pointer.

 I can do a NMU if there is no real maintainer willing to step up.

An NMU is not required (and does not really reduce the work of maintainers 
anyway).

But a proper patch, preferably tested, that applies to the current version 
of the source package and that does not log messages saying Ubuntu would 
be most welcome. I would suggest changing the message to ... is not a 
valid installation CD (especially as it does not actually test if it is a 
Debian or Ubuntu CD; if you'd happen to have a Debian CD in one drive and 
an Ubuntu CD in the other, it would accept either...).

Cheers,
FJP



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Bug#243857: Patch has been available in Ubuntu

2010-03-16 Thread Frans Pop
On Tuesday 16 March 2010, Frans Pop wrote:
 On Tuesday 16 March 2010, Joshua Kwan wrote:
  Looks like this bug hasn't seen action for quite a while. It seems
  like in the meantime, Ubuntu has fixed this bug. Check out this patch:
 
  http://launchpadlibrarian.net/18656164/cdrom-detect-better-flow.patch

 Thanks for the pointer.

  I can do a NMU if there is no real maintainer willing to step up.

 An NMU is not required (and does not really reduce the work of
 maintainers anyway).

 But a proper patch, preferably tested, that applies to the current
 version of the source package and that does not log messages saying
 Ubuntu would be most welcome. I would suggest changing the message to
 ... is not a valid installation CD (especially as it does not actually
 test if it is a Debian or Ubuntu CD; if you'd happen to have a Debian CD
 in one drive and an Ubuntu CD in the other, it would accept either...).

Please ignore this mail. Apparently I had two versions open and by mistake 
also sent this early draft.



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Re: PA8800/8900 status HPPA for Squeeze

2010-03-16 Thread Frans Pop
Carlos O'Donell wrote:
 My *top* priorities are:
 - glibc regressions.
 - vfork bug.Carlos O'Donell wrote:

I think it's time for another huge thank you to Carlos for his continued 
work that allows hppa to remain alive.

So Carlos: muchas gracias

(Not meaning to dismiss all the excellent work of others like Dann and 
various upstream people of course.)


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Re: Getting d-i to find firmware on the CD generated by debian-cd

2010-03-15 Thread Frans Pop
On Monday 15 March 2010, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
  That source package does not contain all available firmware, FWIW.
  You're missing at least zd1211-firmware and
  atmel-firmware. debian-cd has a list in tasks/firmware.

 Btw, tasks/firmware refer to the non-existing package
 firmware-ipw3945.  Did it change name, go away or is it planned
 introduced in the future?

The answer to that question is simple enough to find with either a quick 
look at packages.d.o, or simply:
$ rmadison firmware-ipw3945
firmware-ipw3945 |0.4 | etch-m68k/non-free | all
firmware-ipw3945 | 0.4+etchnhalf.1 | oldstable/non-free | all

The firmware task should probably be made release-specific...


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Re: Bits from the Release Team: What should go into squeeze?

2010-03-15 Thread Frans Pop
Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote:
 From a current point of view squeeze will release with kernel 2.6.32
 
 This is not very good, since .32 is skipped by -rt people, so us who need
 realtime kernel, won't be able just to add a patch to distribution
 kernel, but instead will have to use different upstream version.

Given that some many distros are taking .32 as the basis for long term 
release support I find that a rather incomprehensible decision from 
the -rt people.

There are *always* reasons to not use a particular kernel. Let's be happy 
we have one that has already stabilized quite a bit at this stage of our 
release process instead of continuing to second-guess the choice.

Cheers,
FJP


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Bug#573946: apt: Dutch program translation update

2010-03-15 Thread Frans Pop
Package: apt
Version:0.7.25.3
Severity: wishlist
Tags: patch, l10n

Attached an update for the Dutch translation of apt.
Please include in your next upload.

TIA



apt_0.7.25.3_nl.po.gz
Description: GNU Zip compressed data


Bug#573987: console-setup

2010-03-15 Thread Frans Pop
Package: console-setup
Severity: minor

Currently when selecting a layout for a country the Other choice is 
sorted alphabetically. This means that for Dutch it's the last option 
listed while for USA it's the first.

It would be better to nave this not sorted and instead always have it 
listed as the last option (consistent with localechooser).



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Bug#571939: Acknowledgement ([sparc] segfault when quitting aptitude)

2010-03-15 Thread Frans Pop
On Monday 15 March 2010, Daniel Burrows wrote:
   Hm, the threadall backtraces look identical.  Is there another page?

Ugh, must have made a mistake. Will get a new trace.

   BTW, if you're talking about the mouse having problems because of the
 terminal state: usually holding down Shift bypasses mouse capture by
 the program running in the terminal and lets you select as usual.  I
 know this works in xterm and gnome-terminal, anyway; I don't have
 Konsole handy right now to test in.

Normally mouse select does not work when aptitude is running unless shift 
is pressed. That I know. I think this is different. But I will certainly 
try if shift helps. Should have thought of it myself.

BTW, I can also give you direct access to the box if you like. Just send me 
your public SSH key.



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Bug#571939: Acknowledgement ([sparc] segfault when quitting aptitude)

2010-03-15 Thread Frans Pop
On Monday 15 March 2010, Daniel Burrows wrote:
   Hm, the threadall backtraces look identical.  Is there another page?

Shift did work...
I've cleaned out the remnants of the frontend.

Thread 12 (Thread 0xf3dddb70 (LWP 1516)):
#0  0xf7837acc in pthread_cond_wait@@GLIBC_2.3.2 () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#1  0x0020a134 in waitcwidget::threads::mutex::lock (this=0x554ce8)
at /usr/include/cwidget/generic/threads/threads.h:508
#2  resolver_manager::background_thread_execution (this=0x554ce8)
at resolver_manager.cc:564
#3  0x00273ddc in resolver_manager::background_thread_bootstrap::operator() (
p=value optimized out) at resolver_manager.cc:704
#4  
cwidget::threads::thread::bootstrapresolver_manager::background_thread_bootstrap
 
(p=value optimized out) at /usr/include/cwidget/generic/threads/threads.h:117
#5  0xf7832358 in start_thread () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#6  0xf756df1c in ?? () from /lib/libc.so.6
#7  0xf756df1c in ?? () from /lib/libc.so.6 cache
Backtrace stopped: previous frame identical to this frame (corrupt stack?)

Thread 10 (Thread 0xf5fcbb70 (LWP 1514)):
#0  0xf760ba60 in ?? () from /lib/libgcc_s.so.1
#1  0xf760c278 in ?? () from /lib/libgcc_s.so.1
#2  0xf760c304 in _Unwind_ForcedUnwind () from /lib/libgcc_s.so.1
#3  0xf783d814 in _Unwind_ForcedUnwind () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#4  0xf783adfc in __pthread_unwind () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#5  0xf7830eec in sigcancel_handler () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#6  signal handler called
#7  0xf783c908 in do_sigwait () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#8  0xf783c9b4 in sigwait () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#9  0xf7bcaa44 in cwidget::toplevel::signal_thread::operator() (this=0xf5fcb297)
at toplevel.cc:587
#10 0xf7bcaa98 in 
cwidget::threads::thread::bootstrapcwidget::toplevel::signal_thread 
(p=value optimized out) at ../../src/cwidget/generic/threads/threads.h:117
#11 0xf7832358 in start_thread () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#12 0xf756df1c in ?? () from /lib/libc.so.6
#13 0xf756df1c in ?? () from /lib/libc.so.6
Backtrace stopped: previous frame identical to this frame (corrupt stack?)

Thread 2 (Thread 0xf7053b70 (LWP 1364)):
#0  0xf7566358 in select () from /lib/libc.so.6
#1  0xf72a431c in apr_sleep () from /usr/lib/libapr-1.so.0
#2  0xf7d75174 in log4cxx::helpers::FileWatchdog::run(apr_thread_t*, void*) ()
   from /usr/lib/liblog4cxx.so.10
#3  0xf7dff0d8 in log4cxx::helpers::Thread::launcher(apr_thread_t*, void*) ()
   from /usr/lib/liblog4cxx.so.10
#4  0xf72a0e40 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libapr-1.so.0
#5  0xf72a0e40 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libapr-1.so.0
Backtrace stopped: previous frame identical to this frame (corrupt stack?)

Thread 1 (Thread 0xf7fec710 (LWP 1361)):
#0  0xf78335f4 in pthread_join () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#1  0xf7bc12a4 in cwidget::threads::thread::join ()
at ../../src/cwidget/generic/threads/threads.h:235
#2  cwidget::toplevel::signal_thread::stop () at toplevel.cc:563
#3  cwidget::toplevel::suspend_without_signals () at toplevel.cc:1195
#4  0xf7bc1940 in cwidget::toplevel::suspend () at toplevel.cc:1225
#5  0xf7bc1a14 in cwidget::toplevel::shutdown () at toplevel.cc:1236
#6  0x000f7e9c in ui_main () at ui.cc:2863
#7  0x0002e158 in main (argc=1, argv=0xd804) at main.cc:1178



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Bug#573946: apt: Dutch program translation update

2010-03-15 Thread Frans Pop
On Monday 15 March 2010, Christian PERRIER wrote:
 Thanks, Frans. Resyncing the file with the current POT file in teh
 debian-sid branch in bzr gives one untranslated string. Would you
 mind completing it?

Attached.



nl.po.gz
Description: GNU Zip compressed data


Re: Question for all candidates: Care of Core infrastructure

2010-03-15 Thread Frans Pop
Marc Haber wrote:
 In the last years I have seen a really disturbing development in
 Debian: New developers are very interested in bringing new packages
 into Debian, but care for our core infrastructure (dpkg, apt) has a
 little bit diminished.

Good question and quite true.

IMO it's worth adding to that:
- Debian Installer development
- Porting: several ports are struggling
- Documentation maintenance:
  - website
  - Release Notes
  - various other guides


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Re: Question for all candidates: Release process

2010-03-15 Thread Frans Pop
Margarita Manterola wrote:
 I think that most of the frustration comes from the fact that the
 release team is lacking manpower.  The job of the release team is very
 stressful and very rarely do the RM and RA feel that their work is
 appreciated.

I disagree. I think the main problem is that there are two main sides to 
what the Release Team does and that the cause of the frustration on the 
side of the rest of the project is that one of those is sides has been 
neglected. And that frustration in the rest of the project creates the 
negative feedback and criticism which in turn creates the stress in the 
RT.

The two sides I'm talking about are:

- the technical work around preparing a release
  This includes managing transitions, migrations; doing removals;
  maintaining tools; etc.

This seems to be what the RT has been focussing on after Sarge. This is 
also where most manpower currently goes. And it's very necessary and 
important. And in general I think it's done quite well (except when 
someone decides - without any prior announcement or opportunity for review 
or comment - to do a mass removal of packages from testing because they 
have a random RC bug open even though the importance of the package 
massively outweighs the practical impact of the bug).

- the actual *management* of the release process
  This involves planning and coordinating the work that needs to be done
  by regular DDs; ensuring that not only the archive is in a releasable
  state, but that also the website and documentation (including
  translations) have been updated; stimulating BSPs; preparing release
  announcements (and giving people who's work your announcing time to
  review and comment what you've written for them); informing everybody
  involved of the status and progress of a release.
  And also tracking the status of architectures and *discussing* with the
  project what to do when an arch has problems (instead of just deciding
  on things in isolation); keeping track of release goals and stimulating
  work on them so that they are actually implemented, 

The quality of a Debian release is determined by much more than just the RC 
bug count. And it all needs to be managed, or at least coordinated. And 
*everything* needs to be ready on the day, not just one aspect.


During the Sarge release these two sides were in balance. After that, for 
Sarge stable releases and the Lenny release, the second side was horrible. 
And several people contributing a lot of work in strongly release-related 
areas have been driven away by that.
After Lenny things have improved in some areas (communication about ports 
has been quite good for example and so has the management of the last 
couple of stable point releases), but for Squeeze we've only seen a very 
few rather general status mails, but no coordination at all.

The Release Team should IMO keep in mind that it's not *they* who make a 
release, but the whole project together. And the best way to get respect 
for their work is for them to respect the vastly bigger amount of work 
done by all other DDs collectively.

The fact that they control the switches does not mean that they can 
unilaterally make any decision regarding the work of others. There is no 
problem with the RT making the *final* decision about release related 
issues, but they simply cannot make most decisions without checking with 
the rest of the project. If only simply because in most cases they won't 
have all relevant information.
And checking with the rest of the project is *not* asking a few buddies on 
a selected channel on IRC. It's doing proper announcement and RFC/RFRs on 
the mailing lists intended for that purpose.


And finally, the best way to get help is to be open about what you're 
doing. If you hide yourself away and don't communicate with the project 
you don't get help. I think the very noticeable change in the FTP team is 
proof of that.

IMO for a lot of the above the primary responsability lies with the person 
with the title/role of Release Manager. Ideally the Release Manager should 
spend more time on communicating with the rest of the project than on 
handling transitions.

The challenge for an RM when the team can't handle the workload is not to 
do it all himself, but to continue communicating and get help.

Cheers,
FJP


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Re: how to set title in installer interface

2010-03-15 Thread Frans Pop
On Monday 15 March 2010, Frans Pop wrote:
 On Monday 15 March 2010, kin boster wrote:
  Template: my_test/title

 Should be: debian-installer/my_title/title

Or rather: debian-installer/my_test-udeb/title
(Or, in general: debian-installer/name of udeb/title)


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Re: Getting d-i to find firmware on the CD generated by debian-cd

2010-03-15 Thread Frans Pop
On Monday 15 March 2010, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
  That source package does not contain all available firmware, FWIW.
  You're missing at least zd1211-firmware and
  atmel-firmware. debian-cd has a list in tasks/firmware.

 Btw, tasks/firmware refer to the non-existing package
 firmware-ipw3945.  Did it change name, go away or is it planned
 introduced in the future?

The answer to that question is simple enough to find with either a quick 
look at packages.d.o, or simply:
$ rmadison firmware-ipw3945
firmware-ipw3945 |0.4 | etch-m68k/non-free | all
firmware-ipw3945 | 0.4+etchnhalf.1 | oldstable/non-free | all

The firmware task should probably be made release-specific...


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Re: Switching g-i from DirectFB to X11 -- console-setup

2010-03-15 Thread Frans Pop
On Saturday 27 February 2010, Anton Zinoviev wrote:
 On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 09:16:40PM +0100, Julien Cristau wrote:
  It'd be quite weird to have a keyboard layout configured in d-i, and
  ignored when switching VTs to get to a console, IMO...

 Unfortunately this is inevitable.  'loadkeys' and 'setfont' do not work
 when X is active.  A solution would be to start somehow xterm inside X.

This is a major issue IMO. The graphical installer has always [1] had 
a correct keyboard configuration for both the graphical environment and for 
the debug shells. Losing that would be an important regression.

[1] Well, after we had the bugs figured out.


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Re: Towards X11-based d-i: v2, final report

2010-03-15 Thread Frans Pop
Sorry for not replying sooner. If there had been anything really urgent I 
would have commented, but there wasn't.

I did look at the new image and udebs earlier, but did not get around to 
doing a full review until now.

The difference in image size between version 1 and 2 is about 400kB 
(smaller), but because of the alpha release and kernel switch there are 
many other factors then just X.Org udebs.
More relevant is that it is now only 15% instead of almost 19% larger than 
a current directfb based image would have been, which is a significant 
improvement IMO.

The main components of the 400kB difference are roughly:
- reduced size of X.Org related stuff: -/- 565kB
- dropping of dhcp3-client-udeb: -/- 166kB
- new kernel:
  - general increase: 225kB
  - increased size of mouse-modules (bug fix): 8kB

That 0.5 MB improvement is well worth the effort. Thanks.
The new udev udebs look good as well.

I think with this all the obvious fat has been trimmed and errors resolved.

Things I did notice:
- libx11-6-udeb: still contains a man page
- libx11-6-udeb: some (most/all?) of the included locales are probably not
  needed; the en_US Compose file is huge and the one for Finnish is insane
  considering it's only for a single language - what if all langs had a
  file like that...
- xserver-xorg-video-fbdev-udeb: depends on libc6 instead of libc6-udeb
- udev-gtk-udeb: long description is a bit weird; I'd expect the last
  sentence together with the first sentence and not dangling at the end,
  and the additionally does not really make any sense


On Saturday 27 February 2010, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
 Various remarks:
 

  * I had to disable speakup since the related package isn't available
right now after the 2.6.30 → 2.6.32 switch. Sorry about that. I
might generate another “v2” image once this package is available,
though.

Speakup is just a minor detail in the context of this change. Don't worry 
about it.

  * Previously I was building against squeeze, but with that same
kernel version switch, I had to enable both squeeze and sid in my
sources.list.udeb file.

It's much better always to build against sid when doing development work 
for D-I. For our purposes testing is much less reliable.

  * I'm now generating the minimal XML file for the MIME database in a
cleaner fashion, using an XSLT transformation.

Nice.

  * It might be possible to get rid of some X libraries by linking
statically against them, but that would mean more work, possibly
additional flavours, etc. I'm not sure the gain (if any) would be
as high as for the server (see previous report), though. I'd tend
to think it'd be more maintainable on the long run to keep the
current set of udebs than trying to reduce it as much as
possible.

It would only make sense for libs
- that are only depended on by one other udeb
- that's of a non-trivial size
- for which most of its symbols are not actually used

I think that with libgcrypt we've already got the most obvious candidate, 
although the gain seems to have been less than I would have expected.

 Things for later:
 =

  * Deal with cursors, including supporting theme switching.

IMO the default cursor is fine. Theme support is more relevant, but as 
mentioned before I think it's realistic to ask the accessibility people to 
look into that.

 * Probably get rid of refresh_keymap() in cdebconf.

I would make me very unhappy if we don't have correct keymap setup in both 
the graphical (or D-I) environment and on the VTs for the debug consoles.
I can see that refresh_keymap() is maybe not the correct implementation to 
achieve this, but something should.

Debug shells are an essential feature of D-I, for both development and 
rescue.

  * Dive into mklibs.

I've thought of that a bit more and come up with a snag.
mklibs will only work if the pic files 100% match the library that is being 
reduced. So there's a problem when libs in D-I are configured differently 
from the regular libs, or if they have other libs compiled in statically.

It can be solved in two ways:
- have special *-udeb-pic debs (which should conflict with normal -pic debs
- do library reduction in a chroot of the image instead of using the host
  system

The second option has the added advantage of making a build less dependent 
on the host system (for official builds it could pull -pic *udebs* from 
testing instead of installing them on the host system), but it also means 
a fair complication of the build process and probably that builds would 
always need to be run as root (either real or sudo).

I would add:

* Reduce the duplication that exists between console-setup and X.org udebs.
  As per: http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2010/02/msg00771.html

Cheers,
FJP


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Re: Towards X11-based d-i: v2, final report

2010-03-15 Thread Frans Pop
On Monday 15 March 2010, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
 In the end I used libnettle, statically linked (that's amd64 this

 time, but you'll see the huge overhead of linking statically):
 | Installed-Size: [-2204-] {+2208+}

 libmatrixssl's headers were a mess, nettle is much cleaner, and
 directly usable as it is, while the former needed some work and we had
 no replies from its maintainer yet.

When you have time, could you perhaps create a Wiki page under [1] with 
info on how the X.Org backend is put together?
I think would be good have an overview of and to document the reasons for 
differences with regular X.Org libs such as (config) choices and what's 
compiled statically.

[1] http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/GUI


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Bug#573987: console-setup

2010-03-15 Thread Frans Pop
Package: console-setup
Severity: minor

Currently when selecting a layout for a country the Other choice is 
sorted alphabetically. This means that for Dutch it's the last option 
listed while for USA it's the first.

It would be better to nave this not sorted and instead always have it 
listed as the last option (consistent with localechooser).



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Re: Switching g-i from DirectFB to X11 -- console-setup

2010-03-15 Thread Frans Pop
On Saturday 27 February 2010, Anton Zinoviev wrote:
 On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 10:22:54AM +0100, Frans Pop wrote:
  Besides that it offers choices for keymaps that are not even available

This does happen. At least, with only console-setup-pc-ekmap loaded I see
Sun dead keys listed for Dutch (hmmm, but no Sun keymaps for USA) and I 
also see Macintosh a lot (which is probably necessary).

  and AFAIK it does not detect headless systems that don't need any
  console setup.

 AFAIK this doesn't happen.

You're right (tested). It does check if a keyboard is connected, so 
headless is covered.

But AFAICT it does not check for a serial console install (not tested [1]).
kbd-chooser also checks for that and for UML installs. And IIRC the Xen 
people also asked at some point to skip keyboard configuration, but I'm 
not sure what the status of that is. Call it unused head installs.

By default kbd-chooser will skip keyboard configuration for serial console 
installs, but (at medium/low priority) it will still offer the option to 
configure a keyboard.
This can be useful for systems that are installed remotely but should still 
have a keyboard/console configured for local maintenance.
For that same reason D-I also has an option to enable VTs even though a 
serial console is being used for an install.

  The extremely long selection lists make console-setup-udeb completely
  unusable with the text frontend.

 Inconvenient as always with the long selection lists, but not unusable,

I know it's technically usable, but IMO it's effectively unusable.

 see #531646.  However, I am not sure which extremely long selection
 lists are you refering to.  AFAIK there is only one long selection list
 in c-s-udeb, in the typical situation this question won't be asked and

I like to consider all use cases, not just default installs.

 it is longer than the corresponding selection list of kbd-chooser only
 because some layouts are not supported by kbd-chooser.

IMO it lists quite a few keymaps that can be expected to have such a 
incredibly tiny user base that it would be better not to list them at all, 
at least not in the udeb.

  The basic error in the design is the assumption that the same
  functionality is suitable for both installed systems (where users may
  want to tune there keyboard for their personal preferences and, most
  importantly, have the opportunity to try out different options and see
  their effect) and for the installer (where users only need a basic
  selection of the correct keymap with solid defaults based on country,
  language and keymap for everything else).

 There is no such assumption.  If the d-i team has enough man-power the
 the udeb can be redesigned to ask entirely different questions.

I never meant to imply that you should do it all. I will probably have a go 
at it myself at some point, but it's not high on my ToDo list.

 I think a lot of things changed in console-setup since that thread.

Yes, it does look better than it did. But the choices for Netherlands are 
still unusable (both Netherlands and Netherlands - Standard seem to 
give the same very uncommon Dutch layout and there seems to be no option 
for the most common US layout).

The description for the keyboard origin question still needs improvement. 
Here's a proposal (assuming that the goal is that each country _will_ list 
all layouts common in that country; if not, the use of origin is simply 
incorrect):
=
   The layout of keyboards varies per country, with some countries having
   multiple common layouts. Please select the country of origin for the
   keyboard of this computer.

   Country of origin:
=

We should also consider adding a progress bar while c-s loads all its data. 
On my sparc there was a too long delay with nothing but a blue screen 
showing...

Cheers,
FJP

[1] I tried to but serial console failed with .33 on my sparc with keyboard 
connected (i.e. with head); without keyboard (which makes the firmware 
operate in headless mode) strangely enough does work.


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Re: Bug#573891: kFreeBSD partitioning fails

2010-03-14 Thread Frans Pop
On Sunday 14 March 2010, Miroslav Kure wrote:
 No clue on tty4 at this stage. However, when I go back to the main

That's normal. stderr often stays buffered until you exit a component 
(return to the main menu).

 menu and select to partition disks again, nothing happens (I am

So that's not actually needed.

 immediately returned to the main menu), but syslog now reads:

   Mar 14 18:35:33 main-menu[117]: (process:1184): line 105:
   Mar 14 18:35:33 main-menu[117]: (process:1184): depmod: not found

That's probably expected on freebsd (but should be handled cleaner).

   Mar 14 18:35:33 main-menu[117]: (process:1184): line 131:
   Mar 14 18:35:33 main-menu[117]: (process:1184): can't open
   /var/lib/partman/outfifo: no such file

This is the real error.

 Looking at the attached partman log I would say it wants to use the
 ext2 filesystem by default for the new partition and switching to ufs
 does not work very well.

From that log:
parted_server: Read command: CHANGE_FILE_SYSTEM
parted_server: Opening outfifo
parted_server: 
command_change_file_system(26740385280-30005821439,freebsd-ufs)
parted_server: partition_with_id(26740385280-30005821439)
parted_server: Filesystem freebsd-ufs not found, let's see if it is a flag
parted_server: Bad file system or flag type: freebsd-ufs
parted_server: Line 1723. CRITICAL ERROR!!!  EXITING.

Yep. That's the cause.

Looks like something the freebsd porters (CCed) will need to look into.
But it's a bit strange as ufs has been the default file system for freebsd 
since Aug 2009.

Cheers,
FJP


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Bug#573818: 'man debtree' typos: allready, occurence x 2, and seperation

2010-03-14 Thread Frans Pop
tags 573818 pending
thanks

On Sunday 14 March 2010, A. Costa wrote:
 Found some typos in '/usr/share/man/man1/debtree.1.gz', see attached
 '.diff'.

Thanks a lot. Committed for the next release.



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Bug#573878: netcfg: hurd-i386 Fixes

2010-03-14 Thread Frans Pop
tag 573878 pending
thanks

On Sunday 14 March 2010, Samuel Thibault wrote:
 Here is some fixes for netcfg on hurd-i386.

Committed. Thanks.



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Bug#573878: netcfg: hurd-i386 Fixes

2010-03-14 Thread Frans Pop
On Sunday 14 March 2010, Samuel Thibault wrote:
 Please also add hurd-i386 to the netcfg binary package architecture
 list.

Done.



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Bug#573891: kFreeBSD partitioning fails

2010-03-14 Thread Frans Pop
On Sunday 14 March 2010, Miroslav Kure wrote:
 No clue on tty4 at this stage. However, when I go back to the main

That's normal. stderr often stays buffered until you exit a component 
(return to the main menu).

 menu and select to partition disks again, nothing happens (I am

So that's not actually needed.

 immediately returned to the main menu), but syslog now reads:

   Mar 14 18:35:33 main-menu[117]: (process:1184): line 105:
   Mar 14 18:35:33 main-menu[117]: (process:1184): depmod: not found

That's probably expected on freebsd (but should be handled cleaner).

   Mar 14 18:35:33 main-menu[117]: (process:1184): line 131:
   Mar 14 18:35:33 main-menu[117]: (process:1184): can't open
   /var/lib/partman/outfifo: no such file

This is the real error.

 Looking at the attached partman log I would say it wants to use the
 ext2 filesystem by default for the new partition and switching to ufs
 does not work very well.

From that log:
parted_server: Read command: CHANGE_FILE_SYSTEM
parted_server: Opening outfifo
parted_server: 
command_change_file_system(26740385280-30005821439,freebsd-ufs)
parted_server: partition_with_id(26740385280-30005821439)
parted_server: Filesystem freebsd-ufs not found, let's see if it is a flag
parted_server: Bad file system or flag type: freebsd-ufs
parted_server: Line 1723. CRITICAL ERROR!!!  EXITING.

Yep. That's the cause.

Looks like something the freebsd porters (CCed) will need to look into.
But it's a bit strange as ufs has been the default file system for freebsd 
since Aug 2009.

Cheers,
FJP



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Re: Invite to join the Release Team

2010-03-14 Thread Frans Pop
On Sunday 14 March 2010, Clint Adams wrote:
 Okay, so when there is a mysterious release team meeting in Cambridge,
 and there is no discussion or planning of it on debian-release [...]

Clint,

Although to some level I agree with you [1], I wonder if you could explain 
one thing.

That meeting took place in May of last year. What's the point of discussing 
it almost 9 months later? What exactly triggered your blog post?

Cheers,
FJP

[1] I think release management for (old)stable is being handled quite well 
ATM. Although we could have somewhat more frequent updates I'm quite happy 
with how they are being managed (good pro-active communication with DDs 
who have updates for stable).


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Re: Invite to join the Release Team

2010-03-14 Thread Frans Pop
On Sunday 14 March 2010, Gerfried Fuchs wrote:
 * Frans Pop elen...@planet.nl [2010-03-14 16:09:34 CET]:
  [1] I think release management for (old)stable is being handled quite
  well ATM.

  While this might be true and valid for stable, I am not too convinced
 that the last point release of oldstable from April 8th of last year is
 too much for being called handled quite well. I'm not interested in
 throwing mud around, I just want to get some things straight here.

Oh, I have had big problems with how a number of point releases have been 
handled in the pastas well. It was one of the main topics in my talk 
(rant?) about improving RM during Fosdem last year.
And almost a year is certainly too long between point releases, even for 
oldstable.

But I am quite happy with the way the last two stable point releases were 
handled. What's mainly been improved is that the stable release manager is 
really keeping track of ToDo items and has contacted me on his own 
initiative to discuss D-I items for the release announcement. There are 
probably still a few things that could be improved further (website 
updates?), but it's a refreshing breath compared to what it was.

Kudos to Adam.

I'm confident we'll have a good (final) point release for Etch very soon 
too.

Cheers,
FJP


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Re: Should D-I install console-setup with kbd and console-tools or not?

2010-03-14 Thread Frans Pop
On Sunday 14 March 2010, Anton Zinoviev wrote:
 On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 08:15:53AM +0100, Frans Pop wrote:
  D-I does not follow Recommends during base-installer (as discussed
  last month). This means that currently console-setup gets installed
  without kbd and console-tools.

 This is wrong.  Console-setup can not configure the console without kbd
 or console-tools.

OK. That's clear enough :-)

 Isn't the installer the program that makes the decision whether kbd or
 console-tools has to be installed?

Partly. It depends on how APT is configured. And at that point in the 
installation it's configured not to install Recommends by default. After 
base-installer we _do_ install Recommends by default.

We can also use a parameter when calling apt-install to force installing 
Recommends. That's what I was planning to do for console-setup. But I 
wanted to check with you first why they are Recommends in the first place.

Note that up to Lenny D-I *never* installed Recommends. We've only changed 
that since then but are still working out some special cases.

  Would it be better in your opinion to force installation of Recommends
  for console-setup? What exactly is the difference for users?

 I am not sure I understand.  I can make c-s to depend on kbd or
 console-tools.  Should I?

If the package is useless without those two packages, then maybe you 
should. But see below.

 In the past c-s used strong dependency but I changed it to only
 recommends because of request by porters working on architectures which
 do not have kbd or console-tools (i.e. BSD).  This was before the split
 of c-s.  Now with the new package keyboard-configuration I think I can
 use again dependency if you want.

That explains the background.
But I'm not sure that the problem is solved for those ports. As 
console-setup depends on keyboard-configuration, wouldn't making it a 
depends result in console-setup itself becoming uninstallable again?

As said above we can also solve it in D-I by forcing the installation of 
Recommends. Please let me know and I'll take care of it.

Cheers,
FJP


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Re: Should D-I install console-setup with kbd and console-tools or not?

2010-03-14 Thread Frans Pop
On Sunday 14 March 2010, Samuel Thibault wrote:
 Anton Zinoviev, le Sun 14 Mar 2010 12:39:08 +0200, a écrit :
  In the past c-s used strong dependency but I changed it to only
  recommends because of request by porters working on architectures
  which do not have kbd or console-tools (i.e. BSD).

 The dependency could be dropped on those archs only.

That's possible, but not trivial.

See e.g. debian/{rules,control} in cdebconf for an example (for 
cdebconf-gtk-udeb) how to do it correctly.


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Re: Should D-I install console-setup with kbd and console-tools or not?

2010-03-14 Thread Frans Pop
On Sunday 14 March 2010, Anton Zinoviev wrote:
 I am realy surprised by all of this.  What was causing kbd or
 console-tools to be installed in the past (before console-setup)?

We used to explicitly install 'console-tools console-data console-common'.
Probably exactly because Recommends were not getting installed.

But as I mentioned earlier we've been rethinking the whole Recommends 
handling for Squeeze. This is the last open issue.

Note that this is *not* a problem with the alpha1 release as that *does* 
install Recommends during base-installer.

 Console-setup will become uninstallable.  However this should not be a
 problem.  There is no need to install console-setup on these
 architectures (and the installer should force the installation of
 keyboard-configuration instead of console-setup).

That could be done, but isn't the case now. 

  As said above we can also solve it in D-I by forcing the installation
  of Recommends. Please let me know and I'll take care of it.

 Changing d-i because of c-s seems wrong to me.

It's not actually a change in D-I. There's simply more than one way to 
Rome. The difference is this:
--- kbd-chooser/post-base-installer.d/20kbd-chooser (revision 62565)
+++ kbd-chooser/post-base-installer.d/20kbd-chooser (working copy)
@@ -27,6 +27,6 @@
 d-i debian-installer/keymap string $KEYMAP
 EOF

-apt-install console-setup || true
+apt-install --with-recommends console-setup || true

 exit 0

Trivial, no?

 So there are two options:
 1. Changing c-s to depend on kbd | console-tools and installing
keyboard-configuration instead of console-setup on some
architectures.

That's certainly possible. It's a fairly simple change in kbd-chooser.
Seems like the best option as it means that the --with-recommends is not 
needed and will also avoid accidental incomplete manual installs of c-s on 
Linux.

Does that mean console-setup itself is essentially useless on kfreebsd and 
hurd?

 2. Let kbd-chooser decide which one of console-setup, kbd and
keyboard-configuration is going to be installed.  This would be my
preferred choice if console-setup-udeb was part of the installer.
My reasoning is this: the installer should be able to use c-s as a
black box.  No console-related code outside of console-setup-udeb.

I don't really see the difference TBH. It still requires similar logic to 
decide what to install when.

Or...

3. Apply the patch above.
This would result in c-s and k-c being installed on all arches and kbd and 
console-tools only on those arches where they are available.
But option 1) sounds like the cleanest solution.


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Bug#573878: netcfg: hurd-i386 Fixes

2010-03-14 Thread Frans Pop
tag 573878 pending
thanks

On Sunday 14 March 2010, Samuel Thibault wrote:
 Here is some fixes for netcfg on hurd-i386.

Committed. Thanks.



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Bug#573878: netcfg: hurd-i386 Fixes

2010-03-14 Thread Frans Pop
On Sunday 14 March 2010, Samuel Thibault wrote:
 Please also add hurd-i386 to the netcfg binary package architecture
 list.

Done.



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Bug#573891: kFreeBSD partitioning fails

2010-03-14 Thread Frans Pop
On Sunday 14 March 2010, Miroslav Kure wrote:
 No clue on tty4 at this stage. However, when I go back to the main

That's normal. stderr often stays buffered until you exit a component 
(return to the main menu).

 menu and select to partition disks again, nothing happens (I am

So that's not actually needed.

 immediately returned to the main menu), but syslog now reads:

   Mar 14 18:35:33 main-menu[117]: (process:1184): line 105:
   Mar 14 18:35:33 main-menu[117]: (process:1184): depmod: not found

That's probably expected on freebsd (but should be handled cleaner).

   Mar 14 18:35:33 main-menu[117]: (process:1184): line 131:
   Mar 14 18:35:33 main-menu[117]: (process:1184): can't open
   /var/lib/partman/outfifo: no such file

This is the real error.

 Looking at the attached partman log I would say it wants to use the
 ext2 filesystem by default for the new partition and switching to ufs
 does not work very well.

From that log:
parted_server: Read command: CHANGE_FILE_SYSTEM
parted_server: Opening outfifo
parted_server: 
command_change_file_system(26740385280-30005821439,freebsd-ufs)
parted_server: partition_with_id(26740385280-30005821439)
parted_server: Filesystem freebsd-ufs not found, let's see if it is a flag
parted_server: Bad file system or flag type: freebsd-ufs
parted_server: Line 1723. CRITICAL ERROR!!!  EXITING.

Yep. That's the cause.

Looks like something the freebsd porters (CCed) will need to look into.
But it's a bit strange as ufs has been the default file system for freebsd 
since Aug 2009.

Cheers,
FJP



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Re: how to set title in installer interface

2010-03-14 Thread Frans Pop
On Monday 15 March 2010, kin boster wrote:
 Template: my_test/title

Should be: debian-installer/my_title/title


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Accepted partman-target 66 (source all)

2010-03-13 Thread Frans Pop
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Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian Install System Team debian-b...@lists.debian.org
Changed-By: Frans Pop f...@debian.org
Description: 
 partman-target - Provides partman with ability to prepare /target (udeb)
Closes: 573252
Changes: 
 partman-target (66) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * No longer create /cdrom compatibility symlink. Closes: #573252.
 With thanks to Maximilian Attems.
 Requires base-installer (= 1.106).
   * Remove unnecessary braces in finish.d scripts.
 .
   [ Updated translations ]
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Accepted pkgsel 0.28 (source all)

2010-03-13 Thread Frans Pop
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Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian Install System Team debian-b...@lists.debian.org
Changed-By: Frans Pop f...@debian.org
Description: 
 pkgsel - Select and install packages (udeb)
Changes: 
 pkgsel (0.28) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * 90popcon: fix syntax error.
 .
   [ Updated translations ]
   * Slovenian (sl.po) by Vanja Cvelbar
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Re: [RFC] Dealing with mdadm superblock metadata default change

2010-03-13 Thread Frans Pop
Hi Martin,

On Saturday 13 February 2010, martin f krafft wrote:
 also sprach Frans Pop elen...@planet.nl [2010.02.12.1238 +1300]:
   but I think we should make 0.9 the default for squeeze and move
   to 1.1 only afterwards, once grub-pc knows how to deal with it.
 
  Do you want to do that in mdadm itself, or should D-I do it? For
  consistency mdadm seems more logical.

 Yes, I think it should be in mdadm. It should be as easy as
 reverting
 http://git.debian.org/?p=pkg-mdadm/mdadm.git;a=commitdiff;h=7d5c3964ccfa
ace123f7b75e15d38c2650e013d8

What's the status of this?

Cheers,
FJP


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Should D-I install console-setup with kbd and console-tools or not?

2010-03-13 Thread Frans Pop
Hi Anton,

D-I does not follow Recommends during base-installer (as discussed last 
month). This means that currently console-setup gets installed without kbd 
and console-tools.

Would it be better in your opinion to force installation of Recommends for 
console-setup? What exactly is the difference for users?

Cheers,
FJP


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Accepted apt-setup 1:0.45 (source all)

2010-03-12 Thread Frans Pop
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Version: 1:0.45
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian Install System Team debian-b...@lists.debian.org
Changed-By: Frans Pop f...@debian.org
Description: 
 apt-cdrom-setup - set up a CD in sources.list (udeb)
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 apt-setup-udeb - Configure apt (udeb)
Changes: 
 apt-setup (1:0.45) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * There's no need anymore to unmount /target/cdrom.
 .
   [ Updated translations ]
   * Spanish (es.po) by Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
   * Hebrew (he.po) by Omer Zak
   * Slovenian (sl.po) by Vanja Cvelbar
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Accepted base-installer 1.106 (source all amd64)

2010-03-12 Thread Frans Pop
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Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 22:48:17 +0100
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Architecture: source all amd64
Version: 1.106
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian Install System Team debian-b...@lists.debian.org
Changed-By: Frans Pop f...@debian.org
Description: 
 base-installer - base system installation framework (udeb)
 bootstrap-base - Install the base system (udeb)
Changes: 
 base-installer (1.106) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Define the mount point for apt-cdrom in target as /media/cdrom instead
 of /cdrom as the latter was deprecated back in Etch.
 .
   [ Updated translations ]
   * Hebrew (he.po) by Omer Zak
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Bug#571939: [sparc] segfault when quitting aptitude

2010-03-12 Thread Frans Pop
On Friday 12 March 2010, Daniel Burrows wrote:
 On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 01:54:31PM +0100, Frans Pop f...@debian.org was 
heard to say:
  aptitude runs fine on my sparc64 box for upgrading and installing
  packages, but segfaults always when I quit the application.

 Does this happen just with the 0.6 series of aptitude, or did you
 see this in past versions too?

It's a box I don't boot that often but I've never seen the segfaults 
before, certainly not with 0.4.11. I noticed it after the last upgrade.

Here's the upgrade history (from dpkg logs):
2008-07-02 23:06:41 status installed aptitude 0.4.11.7-1
2008-09-23 05:10:38 status installed aptitude 0.4.11.10-1
2008-11-15 21:44:19 status installed aptitude 0.4.11.10-1lenny1.1
2008-12-02 21:49:19 status installed aptitude 0.4.11.11-1
2009-06-13 17:06:34 status installed aptitude 0.4.11.11-1+b1
2009-08-29 01:15:58 status installed aptitude 0.4.11.11-1+b2
2009-12-25 20:53:11 status installed aptitude 0.6.1.3-3
2010-01-25 16:29:00 status installed aptitude 0.6.1.5-1
2010-02-28 12:18:41 status installed aptitude 0.6.1.5-2

I'm not sure if 0.6.1.3-3 was affected or not. If you like I can test that, 
and also other versions from snapshot.d.o too if needed.

Cheers,
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Bug#571939: [sparc] segfault when quitting aptitude

2010-03-12 Thread Frans Pop
On Friday 12 March 2010, Frans Pop wrote:
 It's a box I don't boot that often but I've never seen the segfaults
 before, certainly not with 0.4.11. I noticed it after the last upgrade.

Just got another segfault; this time after the second go for the purge of 
a single package (with the download tab open).

After restarting aptitude the purge and a display of a changelog succeeded, 
but on quit I got a segfault again.



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Bug#571939: [sparc] segfault when quitting aptitude

2010-03-12 Thread Frans Pop
One more clue.

After the segfault I get a shell prompt. But the screen is not cleared and 
the mouse is in a weird state.
Seems as if the mouse is still half captured. Any button action results in 
output at the prompt; 'reset' clears it.



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Bug#573252: partman-target: stray /cdrom link useless these days

2010-03-12 Thread Frans Pop
On Friday 12 March 2010, Joey Hess wrote:
 I don't think it particularly matters if there's a stray /media/cdrom.
 I could always plug in a usb cd drive.

OK. Let's give it a try as it is now then. I will uploaded base-installer 
and apt-setup to start with.

Colin,
At the risk of invoking your ire, I have reverted your additional change in 
apt-setup for now. The reason is explained in the commit message:

   Reason for the revert is that the changes are not needed now that APT
   has been reconfigured to use media/cdrom in target. The change was also
   incomplete as apt-cdrom is also called from other places than 40cdrom.

   It may be worth reintroducing this change later, but I prefer to
   implement and test the switch from /cdrom to /media/cdrom without
   it first.

The other places where apt-cdrom is called are the 41cdset generator and 
load-install-cd.

Cheers,
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Re: initrd.img - creating a init ramdisk by hand

2010-03-12 Thread Frans Pop
On Friday 12 March 2010, Richard Lamboj wrote:
 i need to create an init ramdisk for booting over the network. I'am
 working on an Project to manage Servers, Vservers, Clients and Services
 over the Network and one part is an init ramdisk wich will install disk
 images on the clients to place linux and windows installs on Desktop
 Systems.

This mailing list is about development of the Debian Installation system 
and your question does not really seem related to that. A better place to 
ask would have been the debian-user list.

 I have tried ext2 Images and cpio Images. They don't work. Could not
 exec init or linuxrc. So it would by nice if someone could give me
 informations about boulding an ramdisk.

That said, have a look at
http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/d-i/trunk/installer/build/Makefile

Look for # Create a compressed image of the root filesystem. You'll find 
examples of commands to create initrds using various formats.
The $(x) macros that are used are defined near the beginning of the 
same file.

Cheers,
FJP


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Bug#573252: partman-target: stray /cdrom link useless these days

2010-03-12 Thread Frans Pop
On Friday 12 March 2010, Joey Hess wrote:
 I don't think it particularly matters if there's a stray /media/cdrom.
 I could always plug in a usb cd drive.

OK. Let's give it a try as it is now then. I will uploaded base-installer 
and apt-setup to start with.

Colin,
At the risk of invoking your ire, I have reverted your additional change in 
apt-setup for now. The reason is explained in the commit message:

   Reason for the revert is that the changes are not needed now that APT
   has been reconfigured to use media/cdrom in target. The change was also
   incomplete as apt-cdrom is also called from other places than 40cdrom.

   It may be worth reintroducing this change later, but I prefer to
   implement and test the switch from /cdrom to /media/cdrom without
   it first.

The other places where apt-cdrom is called are the 41cdset generator and 
load-install-cd.

Cheers,
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Bug#573252: partman-target: stray /cdrom link useless these days

2010-03-11 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 10 March 2010, maximilian attems wrote:
 applications that still rely on a toplevel /cdrom
 are likely very buggy and should be kicked.

 nuke etch compatibility link.

Except that D-I itself still uses it :-/

We'll need to change that first...



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Bug#573252: partman-target: stray /cdrom link useless these days

2010-03-11 Thread Frans Pop
tag 573252 pending
thanks

On Thursday 11 March 2010, Frans Pop wrote:
 On Wednesday 10 March 2010, maximilian attems wrote:
  applications that still rely on a toplevel /cdrom
  are likely very buggy and should be kicked.
 
  nuke etch compatibility link.

 Except that D-I itself still uses it :-/

Well, the only usage left were some no longer needed umount statements, so 
I've simply cleaned those up as well.

Committed in SVN.

Cheers,
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Bug#573252: partman-target: stray /cdrom link useless these days

2010-03-11 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 11 March 2010, you wrote:
 /cdrom was only obsoleted in etch by a combination of prayer and wishful
 thinking.  apt-cdrom still relied on it until very recently, when
 Michael Vogt did some work on it. 

Hmm. It could be that back then only the automatic unmounting was fixed. 
I'll test this.

 Perhaps I have missed something, but Frans' changes seem quite
 incomplete to me.

You're partially correct.

 base-installer bind-mounts /target/cdrom, and 

No, we no longer bind mount /target/cdrom. We used to bind mount it 
permanently, but that was changed with the reintroduction of multi-cd 
support. Instead we always leave it up to apt-cdrom to mount/umount the CD 
as (and only as long as) needed.

 configures apt-cdrom to use it;

Yes, I missed this. But we could change that to use /target/media/cdrom 
instead, which would be more in line with what's wanted anyway.
I'll test that too.

 surely that needs to be adjusted if you 
 want to do the detection dynamically there as well, and removing the
 umounts from most other places while keeping the mount in base-installer
 looks like a mistake.

AFAICT removing the umounts is still correct as we never mount it.
But base-installer definitely needs updating before dropping the symlink in 
partman-target. And if Lenny's apt-cdrom does require it, we should keep 
it around until Squeeze+1.

Thanks,
FJP



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Bug#573252: partman-target: stray /cdrom link useless these days

2010-03-11 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 11 March 2010, Colin Watson wrote:
 If you don't bind-mount /target/cdrom in base-installer, how do you
 ensure that we use the same CD for base installation as was used to boot
 the installer?

You cannot ensure that even if you do bind mount it as the BIOS' idea of 
what is the first CD drive may differ from Linux' idea of what it is.

AFAIK this has always been an issue and was not changed by the 
reintroduction of multi-CD support.



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Bug#573252: partman-target: stray /cdrom link useless these days

2010-03-11 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 11 March 2010, Frans Pop wrote:
 No, we no longer bind mount /target/cdrom. We used to bind mount it
 permanently, but that was changed with the reintroduction of multi-cd
 support. Instead we always leave it up to apt-cdrom to mount/umount the
 CD as (and only as long as) needed.

Oh, wait. We do still bind mount it for hd-media installs.
That does need to be covered.



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Bug#573252: partman-target: stray /cdrom link useless these days

2010-03-11 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 11 March 2010, you wrote:
 On Thursday 11 March 2010, Frans Pop wrote:
  No, we no longer bind mount /target/cdrom. We used to bind mount it
  permanently, but that was changed with the reintroduction of multi-cd
  support. Instead we always leave it up to apt-cdrom to mount/umount
  the CD as (and only as long as) needed.

 Oh, wait. We do still bind mount it for hd-media installs.

Gah, and for CD installs, but only during base-installer.

So indeed, my changes were rather hasty and incomplete. Looking for a 
proper solution.



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Bug#573252: partman-target: stray /cdrom link useless these days

2010-03-11 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 11 March 2010, Frans Pop wrote:
 On Thursday 11 March 2010, you wrote:
  On Thursday 11 March 2010, Frans Pop wrote:
   No, we no longer bind mount /target/cdrom. We used to bind mount it
   permanently, but that was changed with the reintroduction of
   multi-cd support. Instead we always leave it up to apt-cdrom to
   mount/umount the CD as (and only as long as) needed.
 
  Oh, wait. We do still bind mount it for hd-media installs.

 Gah, and for CD installs, but only during base-installer.

I've modified base-installer to configure APT to use /media/cdrom instead 
of /cdrom as mount mount for apt-cdrom. I've tested with a Lenny CD that 
this works.

AFAICT with this addition all previous changes are now valid for both CD 
based and hd-media installs.

Thanks to Colin for setting me straight.

Cheers,
FJP



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Bug#573252: partman-target: stray /cdrom link useless these days

2010-03-11 Thread Frans Pop
On Friday 12 March 2010, Joey Hess wrote:
 I installed the alpha from usb stick, onto a system with no cdrom drive,
 and a /cdrom directory (not symlink) was left behind. I have not worked
 out which component is responsible.

/var/lib/dpkg/info/base-files.preinst has:
  if [ -d /cdrom ]; then
touch /etc/base-files.create-cdrom
  fi

... ?



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Bug#573252: partman-target: stray /cdrom link useless these days

2010-03-11 Thread Frans Pop
On Friday 12 March 2010, Frans Pop wrote:
 On Friday 12 March 2010, Joey Hess wrote:
  I installed the alpha from usb stick, onto a system with no cdrom
  drive, and a /cdrom directory (not symlink) was left behind. I have
  not worked out which component is responsible.

 /var/lib/dpkg/info/base-files.preinst has:
   if [ -d /cdrom ]; then
 touch /etc/base-files.create-cdrom
   fi

Eh, never mind. That's if the dir already exists.



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Bug#573252: partman-target: stray /cdrom link useless these days

2010-03-11 Thread Frans Pop
On Friday 12 March 2010, Joey Hess wrote:
 I installed the alpha from usb stick, onto a system with no cdrom drive,
 and a /cdrom directory (not symlink) was left behind. I have not worked
 out which component is responsible.

Duh. I looked at the code earlier today. It's base-installer of course
which bind mounts the CD into target. From library.sh configure_apt():

# Let apt inside the chroot see the cdrom
umount /target/media$DIRECTORY 2/dev/null || true
if [ ! -e /target/media$DIRECTORY ]; then
-- mkdir -p /target/media$DIRECTORY
fi

# The bind mount is left mounted, for future apt-install
# calls to use.
if ! mount -o bind $DIRECTORY /target/media$DIRECTORY; then
warning failed to bind mount /target/media$DIRECTORY
fi

So after today's changes it will leave /media/cdrom instead of /cdrom.

Guess we should remove that dir again in finish_install.d for hd_media
installs? We'd need to keep an indicator that the dir was created by
base-installer and not by partman.



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Bug#573252: partman-target: stray /cdrom link useless these days

2010-03-11 Thread Frans Pop
On Friday 12 March 2010, Frans Pop wrote:
 On Friday 12 March 2010, Joey Hess wrote:
  I installed the alpha from usb stick, onto a system with no cdrom
  drive, and a /cdrom directory (not symlink) was left behind. I have
  not worked out which component is responsible.

 So after today's changes it will leave /media/cdrom instead of /cdrom.

 Guess we should remove that dir again in finish_install.d for hd_media
 installs? We'd need to keep an indicator that the dir was created by
 base-installer and not by partman.

I'm not sure we should remove the dir actually.
Don't we also leave the CD image as a valid source for APT [1]? And we've 
now configured APT to use /media/cdrom as its dir to mount CDs.

Unless we want to clean up all that too, which is defensible as it's 
unlikely a user would think to mount the image on /media/cdrom. And we 
already remove netinsts from the sources.list during finish-install.

[1] At least if a full CD or DVD was used which given the size of USB 
sticks nowadays is not impossible.



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Bug#573252: partman-target: stray /cdrom link useless these days

2010-03-11 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 10 March 2010, maximilian attems wrote:
 applications that still rely on a toplevel /cdrom
 are likely very buggy and should be kicked.

 nuke etch compatibility link.

Except that D-I itself still uses it :-/

We'll need to change that first...



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Bug#573252: partman-target: stray /cdrom link useless these days

2010-03-11 Thread Frans Pop
tag 573252 pending
thanks

On Thursday 11 March 2010, Frans Pop wrote:
 On Wednesday 10 March 2010, maximilian attems wrote:
  applications that still rely on a toplevel /cdrom
  are likely very buggy and should be kicked.
 
  nuke etch compatibility link.

 Except that D-I itself still uses it :-/

Well, the only usage left were some no longer needed umount statements, so 
I've simply cleaned those up as well.

Committed in SVN.

Cheers,
FJP



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Re: Switching g-i from DirectFB to X11 -- specific issues/comments

2010-03-11 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 11 March 2010, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
 To try and make sure I wasn't missing any occurrences, I've patched
 lintian and sent the preliminary patch as a bugreport against lintian:
 #573399. Feel free to voice in, improve the patch, etc. :)

The background to this is that until Lenny 'Package-Type' did not exist as 
a field. During Lenny it was added by the dpkg devs without really 
checking with the D-I team; we never asked for it. IIRC they initially 
even made the XC- field obsolete (it resulted in warnings during builds), 
but that was reverted after some pressure by us.

We could switch to 'Package-Type' if dpkg would omit it from the control 
file included in the package, but (again IIRC) the dpkg-devs were not in 
favor of that. The difference of opinion was never really resolved.

It may also be that, for example for tdebs, the field _will_ be wanted in 
the control file in cases other than udebs.

So I'm not really sure if a Lintian check really is the right solution to 
the issue. But it does reflect current practice, so I personally don't 
mind either. You could consider tightening the check to match only for 
udebs.


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Bug#573252: partman-target: stray /cdrom link useless these days

2010-03-11 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 11 March 2010, you wrote:
 /cdrom was only obsoleted in etch by a combination of prayer and wishful
 thinking.  apt-cdrom still relied on it until very recently, when
 Michael Vogt did some work on it. 

Hmm. It could be that back then only the automatic unmounting was fixed. 
I'll test this.

 Perhaps I have missed something, but Frans' changes seem quite
 incomplete to me.

You're partially correct.

 base-installer bind-mounts /target/cdrom, and 

No, we no longer bind mount /target/cdrom. We used to bind mount it 
permanently, but that was changed with the reintroduction of multi-cd 
support. Instead we always leave it up to apt-cdrom to mount/umount the CD 
as (and only as long as) needed.

 configures apt-cdrom to use it;

Yes, I missed this. But we could change that to use /target/media/cdrom 
instead, which would be more in line with what's wanted anyway.
I'll test that too.

 surely that needs to be adjusted if you 
 want to do the detection dynamically there as well, and removing the
 umounts from most other places while keeping the mount in base-installer
 looks like a mistake.

AFAICT removing the umounts is still correct as we never mount it.
But base-installer definitely needs updating before dropping the symlink in 
partman-target. And if Lenny's apt-cdrom does require it, we should keep 
it around until Squeeze+1.

Thanks,
FJP



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Bug#573252: partman-target: stray /cdrom link useless these days

2010-03-11 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 11 March 2010, Colin Watson wrote:
 If you don't bind-mount /target/cdrom in base-installer, how do you
 ensure that we use the same CD for base installation as was used to boot
 the installer?

You cannot ensure that even if you do bind mount it as the BIOS' idea of 
what is the first CD drive may differ from Linux' idea of what it is.

AFAIK this has always been an issue and was not changed by the 
reintroduction of multi-CD support.



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Bug#573252: partman-target: stray /cdrom link useless these days

2010-03-11 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 11 March 2010, Frans Pop wrote:
 No, we no longer bind mount /target/cdrom. We used to bind mount it
 permanently, but that was changed with the reintroduction of multi-cd
 support. Instead we always leave it up to apt-cdrom to mount/umount the
 CD as (and only as long as) needed.

Oh, wait. We do still bind mount it for hd-media installs.
That does need to be covered.



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Bug#573252: partman-target: stray /cdrom link useless these days

2010-03-11 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 11 March 2010, you wrote:
 On Thursday 11 March 2010, Frans Pop wrote:
  No, we no longer bind mount /target/cdrom. We used to bind mount it
  permanently, but that was changed with the reintroduction of multi-cd
  support. Instead we always leave it up to apt-cdrom to mount/umount
  the CD as (and only as long as) needed.

 Oh, wait. We do still bind mount it for hd-media installs.

Gah, and for CD installs, but only during base-installer.

So indeed, my changes were rather hasty and incomplete. Looking for a 
proper solution.



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Bug#573252: partman-target: stray /cdrom link useless these days

2010-03-11 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 11 March 2010, Frans Pop wrote:
 On Thursday 11 March 2010, you wrote:
  On Thursday 11 March 2010, Frans Pop wrote:
   No, we no longer bind mount /target/cdrom. We used to bind mount it
   permanently, but that was changed with the reintroduction of
   multi-cd support. Instead we always leave it up to apt-cdrom to
   mount/umount the CD as (and only as long as) needed.
 
  Oh, wait. We do still bind mount it for hd-media installs.

 Gah, and for CD installs, but only during base-installer.

I've modified base-installer to configure APT to use /media/cdrom instead 
of /cdrom as mount mount for apt-cdrom. I've tested with a Lenny CD that 
this works.

AFAICT with this addition all previous changes are now valid for both CD 
based and hd-media installs.

Thanks to Colin for setting me straight.

Cheers,
FJP



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Bug#573252: partman-target: stray /cdrom link useless these days

2010-03-11 Thread Frans Pop
On Friday 12 March 2010, Joey Hess wrote:
 I installed the alpha from usb stick, onto a system with no cdrom drive,
 and a /cdrom directory (not symlink) was left behind. I have not worked
 out which component is responsible.

/var/lib/dpkg/info/base-files.preinst has:
  if [ -d /cdrom ]; then
touch /etc/base-files.create-cdrom
  fi

... ?



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Bug#573252: partman-target: stray /cdrom link useless these days

2010-03-11 Thread Frans Pop
On Friday 12 March 2010, Frans Pop wrote:
 On Friday 12 March 2010, Joey Hess wrote:
  I installed the alpha from usb stick, onto a system with no cdrom
  drive, and a /cdrom directory (not symlink) was left behind. I have
  not worked out which component is responsible.

 /var/lib/dpkg/info/base-files.preinst has:
   if [ -d /cdrom ]; then
 touch /etc/base-files.create-cdrom
   fi

Eh, never mind. That's if the dir already exists.



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Bug#573252: partman-target: stray /cdrom link useless these days

2010-03-11 Thread Frans Pop
On Friday 12 March 2010, Joey Hess wrote:
 I installed the alpha from usb stick, onto a system with no cdrom drive,
 and a /cdrom directory (not symlink) was left behind. I have not worked
 out which component is responsible.

Duh. I looked at the code earlier today. It's base-installer of course
which bind mounts the CD into target. From library.sh configure_apt():

# Let apt inside the chroot see the cdrom
umount /target/media$DIRECTORY 2/dev/null || true
if [ ! -e /target/media$DIRECTORY ]; then
-- mkdir -p /target/media$DIRECTORY
fi

# The bind mount is left mounted, for future apt-install
# calls to use.
if ! mount -o bind $DIRECTORY /target/media$DIRECTORY; then
warning failed to bind mount /target/media$DIRECTORY
fi

So after today's changes it will leave /media/cdrom instead of /cdrom.

Guess we should remove that dir again in finish_install.d for hd_media
installs? We'd need to keep an indicator that the dir was created by
base-installer and not by partman.



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Bug#573252: partman-target: stray /cdrom link useless these days

2010-03-11 Thread Frans Pop
On Friday 12 March 2010, Frans Pop wrote:
 On Friday 12 March 2010, Joey Hess wrote:
  I installed the alpha from usb stick, onto a system with no cdrom
  drive, and a /cdrom directory (not symlink) was left behind. I have
  not worked out which component is responsible.

 So after today's changes it will leave /media/cdrom instead of /cdrom.

 Guess we should remove that dir again in finish_install.d for hd_media
 installs? We'd need to keep an indicator that the dir was created by
 base-installer and not by partman.

I'm not sure we should remove the dir actually.
Don't we also leave the CD image as a valid source for APT [1]? And we've 
now configured APT to use /media/cdrom as its dir to mount CDs.

Unless we want to clean up all that too, which is defensible as it's 
unlikely a user would think to mount the image on /media/cdrom. And we 
already remove netinsts from the sources.list during finish-install.

[1] At least if a full CD or DVD was used which given the size of USB 
sticks nowadays is not impossible.



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Bug#550961: small patch ... actually

2010-03-10 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 10 March 2010, Pietro Abate wrote:
 setting APT_CONFIG is the way to go. No need to modify debtree...

 APT_CONFIG=apt.conf apt-get update
 APT_CONFIG=apt.conf debtree dpkg

Thanks for your info. I think we should keep the BR open until this has 
been documented, for example in a README.Debian.

I suspect that it may not work correctly for '-b --arch=all' (as that uses 
apt-cache instead of the apt database). I'll have to test that.

I'll give the recipe you gave in your previous mail a try and then work 
something out. If I have any questions I'll get back to you.

Another question could be: does this also allow to make graphs for other 
architectures? For example, create a graph for arm on an i386 host.
I guess that as long as you copy Packages and Sources files (instead of 
using a sources.list) it could work. 
APT could have internal checks against the current arch. But possibly 
setting APT::Architecture would fix that.

Cheers,
FJP



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Bug#573355: hercules: Update of documentation

2010-03-10 Thread Frans Pop
Package: hercules
Version: 3.06-1.3
Severity: wishlist

The herculeans have released 3.07. It would be great to have that in 
Squeeze.

I would suggest updating some of the documentation.
The giving_s_390_a_try.html is outdated; I'd drop it and instead add the 
following to the README.Debian.

snip
Installing Debian on an emulated S/390 system
-
A good introduction on how to install Debian on s390 using hercules has
been written by Josef Sipek:
http://www.josefsipek.net/docs/s390-linux/hercules-s390.html.

Note that Debian Squeeze and later no longer support running in 31-bit
mode as only 64-bit (s390x) kernels are available. This means that in your
hercules config ARCHMODE must be set to 'ESAME' or 'z/Arch'.
/snip

Also, there are some stray spaces in this line for util/dasdlist.1:
+System/370, ESA/390, and z/Architecture Emulator\fP available in

Cheers,
FJP



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Re: spi_s3c64xx.c - plat/spi.h: No such file or directory

2010-03-10 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 10 March 2010, jassi brar wrote:
 On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 5:11 PM, Frans Pop elen...@planet.nl wrote:
  When building with an SMDK6410 config with CONFIG_SPI_S3C64XX=m I get
  the following compilation error:
 
  CC [M]  drivers/spi/spi_s3c64xx.o
  drivers/spi/spi_s3c64xx.c:31:22: error: plat/spi.h: No such file or
  directory
 
  This is with Ben Dooks' next-samsung branch merged into 2.6.33.

 There has recently been a major shuffle of headers in plat and mach,
 please test against some unmodified kernel and let me know which one
 if the error still occurs. Maybe you(or I) can submit a fix upstream.

The same error occurs with vanilla 2.6.33.

Cheers,
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Re: spi_s3c64xx.c - plat/spi.h: No such file or directory

2010-03-10 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 11 March 2010, jassi brar wrote:
 On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 1:17 AM, Frans Pop elen...@planet.nl wrote:
  On Wednesday 10 March 2010, jassi brar wrote:
  On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 5:11 PM, Frans Pop elen...@planet.nl wrote:
   When building with an SMDK6410 config with CONFIG_SPI_S3C64XX=m I
   get the following compilation error:
  
   CC [M]  drivers/spi/spi_s3c64xx.o
   drivers/spi/spi_s3c64xx.c:31:22: error: plat/spi.h: No such file or
   directory
  
   This is with Ben Dooks' next-samsung branch merged into 2.6.33.
 
  There has recently been a major shuffle of headers in plat and mach,
  please test against some unmodified kernel and let me know which one
  if the error still occurs. Maybe you(or I) can submit a fix upstream.
 
  The same error occurs with vanilla 2.6.33.

 yeah, i remember. that was due to driver being accepted in SPI tree but
 plat headers put on hold in S3C ARCH tree.
 The patches are already queued on Ben Dooks' and Grant Likely's tree.

Which branch in Ben's tree would that be? As mentioned above I still see 
the error when using his current next-samsung branch...
I have not try building with Grant's tree.

It would be great if someone could verify that the issue really is solved.

Cheers,
FJP
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Re: spi_s3c64xx.c - plat/spi.h: No such file or directory

2010-03-10 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 11 March 2010, jassi brar wrote:
 On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 11:51 AM, Frans Pop elen...@planet.nl wrote:
  On Thursday 11 March 2010, jassi brar wrote:
  On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 1:17 AM, Frans Pop elen...@planet.nl wrote:
   On Wednesday 10 March 2010, jassi brar wrote:
   On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 5:11 PM, Frans Pop elen...@planet.nl 
wrote:
When building with an SMDK6410 config with CONFIG_SPI_S3C64XX=m
I get the following compilation error:
   
CC [M]  drivers/spi/spi_s3c64xx.o
drivers/spi/spi_s3c64xx.c:31:22: error: plat/spi.h: No such file
or directory
   
This is with Ben Dooks' next-samsung branch merged into 2.6.33.
  
   There has recently been a major shuffle of headers in plat and
   mach, please test against some unmodified kernel and let me know
   which one if the error still occurs. Maybe you(or I) can submit a
   fix upstream.
  
   The same error occurs with vanilla 2.6.33.
 
  yeah, i remember. that was due to driver being accepted in SPI tree
  but plat headers put on hold in S3C ARCH tree.
  The patches are already queued on Ben Dooks' and Grant Likely's tree.
 
  Which branch in Ben's tree would that be? As mentioned above I still
  see the error when using his current next-samsung branch...
  I have not try building with Grant's tree.

 try for-rmk/samsung6

That branch is identical to next-samsung...
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Re: spi_s3c64xx.c - plat/spi.h: No such file or directory

2010-03-10 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 11 March 2010, jassi brar wrote:
 Then you need patches from Grant Likely's tree.
 The driver now includes a new header plat/s3c64xxx-spi.h instead

 Check http://git.secretlab.ca/?p=linux-2.6.git;a=summary
 branch 'next' or 'next-spi'

Yep, that does work! Thanks a lot for your patience.

Cheers,
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Re: testing firmware image out of date

2010-03-09 Thread Frans Pop
On Tuesday 09 March 2010, Joey Hess wrote:
 The firmware bundle at
 http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/firmware/testing/c
urrent/ contains firmware files from lenny.

 I'm fairly sure that testing did not have such old versions of when
 the file was built in February, so is it building against stable?

No, the build is correct. Just the symlink for testing needed updating from 
lenny to squeeze.

Done.

Cheers,
FJP


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Accepted partman-crypto 42 (source all amd64)

2010-03-09 Thread Frans Pop
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Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
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Changed-By: Frans Pop f...@debian.org
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Changes: 
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 .
   * Actually install the post-base-installer hook script.
 .
   [ Updated translations ]
   * Slovenian (sl.po) by Vanja Cvelbar
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Accepted:
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  to main/p/partman-crypto/partman-crypto-dm_42_all.udeb
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  to main/p/partman-crypto/partman-crypto-loop_42_all.udeb
partman-crypto_42.dsc
  to main/p/partman-crypto/partman-crypto_42.dsc
partman-crypto_42.tar.gz
  to main/p/partman-crypto/partman-crypto_42.tar.gz
partman-crypto_42_amd64.udeb
  to main/p/partman-crypto/partman-crypto_42_amd64.udeb


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Re: Missing loop-aes-modules-${current:kernel}-amd64-di?

2010-03-09 Thread Frans Pop
On Tuesday 09 March 2010, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
  Also: Is there any way to make sure there's no (kernel) version
  mismatch between *-modules packages in the future?

 That still stands.

Problem is that if we ask to remove the loop-aes udebs for .30 for unstable 
(which is the only real option ATM), they would also be removed from 
testing. That would break loop-aes support for netboot installs and weekly 
built CDs based on the alpha1 release.

I would personally prefer the problem to remain for daily images over 
breaking things for the alpha1 release. The crypto people will hopefully 
come up with some solution for loop-aes support with .32 kernels before 
Squeeze.

But if there is no solution before the next D-I release, we will have to 
ask for removal of the loop-aes udebs when preparing that release.

Note that Luks based encryption is not affected.

Cheers,
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Re: Missing loop-aes-modules-${current:kernel}-amd64-di?

2010-03-09 Thread Frans Pop
On Tuesday 09 March 2010, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
 Using my d-i usb stick, I was hoping to recover from it by mounting
 the crypted lvm through cryptsetup luksOpen … (which a quick google
 suggests), but unfortunately I end up with cryptsetup telling me to
 check for missing aes support in the kernel.

 udpkg -i \
   cdrom/pool/main/l/linux-modules-di-amd64-2.6/loop-aes-modules*

On more careful reading this doesn't quite make sense to me.

AFAIK luksOpen does not use loop-aes. It uses dm-crypt instead. It may 
require the AES crypto module, but that's unrelated to loop-aes.


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Re: Missing loop-aes-modules-${current:kernel}-amd64-di?

2010-03-09 Thread Frans Pop
On Tuesday 09 March 2010, Frans Pop wrote:
 On Tuesday 09 March 2010, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
  Using my d-i usb stick, I was hoping to recover from it by mounting
  the crypted lvm through cryptsetup luksOpen … (which a quick google
  suggests), but unfortunately I end up with cryptsetup telling me to
  check for missing aes support in the kernel.
 
  udpkg -i \
    cdrom/pool/main/l/linux-modules-di-amd64-2.6/loop-aes-modules*

 On more careful reading this doesn't quite make sense to me.

 AFAIK luksOpen does not use loop-aes. It uses dm-crypt instead. It may
 require the AES crypto module, but that's unrelated to loop-aes.

So what you appear to be missing is aes_generic.ko.


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Re: [PATCH] Switch grub-installer to grub-probe

2010-03-09 Thread Frans Pop
On Tuesday 09 March 2010, Colin Watson wrote:
 Indeed, what he said.  grub-probe is in grub-common exactly so that both
 grub-legacy and grub2 can use it, and note that there's a bit of code in
 my patch to handle the different partition number offset.

As long as there won't be regressions for special cases when grub-legacy is 
used because grub-probe either does not handle them or handles them 
differently I have no objection.


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Re: Missing loop-aes-modules-${current:kernel}-amd64-di?

2010-03-09 Thread Frans Pop
On Tuesday 09 March 2010, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
 Using my d-i usb stick, I was hoping to recover from it by mounting
 the crypted lvm through cryptsetup luksOpen … (which a quick google
 suggests), but unfortunately I end up with cryptsetup telling me to
 check for missing aes support in the kernel.

Sorry for the separate replies...

For rescue help with encrypted LVM, see:
http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Rescue/Crypto


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Re: Missing loop-aes-modules-${current:kernel}-amd64-di?

2010-03-09 Thread Frans Pop
On Tuesday 09 March 2010, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
 The outcome was quite surprising, but explained a lot: cryptsetup
 wasn't actually installed on the target system…

Did you install the system using a daily image? If so, that's what you get 
from using udebs from unstable ;-)

Fixed.


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Multipath support in Squeeze

2010-03-09 Thread Frans Pop
Hi Guido,

What's the status of multipath support in Squeeze? Especially given the 
switch to grub2.

Could you perhaps update the wiki page [1]? It currently refers to loads of 
closed bug reports, which only makes one wonder.
If possible, please clarify the status both for Lenny and for Squeeze.

TIA.

Cheers,
FJP

[1] http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/MultipathSupport


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