[framework-issues] [Issue 4756] Expand shortcut possibiliti es (Use of Alt key is not offered)
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4756 --- Additional comments from tomm...@openoffice.org Sun May 16 08:48:23 + 2010 --- this issue fix was one of the most useful updates of OOo 3.2. thanks 4 fixin' it - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@framework.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@framework.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[framework-issues] [Issue 4756] Expand shortcut possibiliti es (Use of Alt key is not offered)
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4756 --- Additional comments from slowpoi...@openoffice.org Wed Dec 16 20:50:27 + 2009 --- Nice to see that this has been fixed in 3.2. I can't wait for Ubuntu to incorporate that release. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@framework.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@framework.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[framework-issues] [Issue 4756] Expand shortcut possibiliti es (Use of Alt key is not offered)
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4756 --- Additional comments from tomm...@openoffice.org Thu Jul 30 12:12:55 + 2009 --- nice to see that the new feature has been correctly implemented!!! thanks to the developers!!! - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@framework.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@framework.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[framework-issues] [Issue 4756] Expand shortcut possibiliti es (Use of Alt key is not offered)
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4756 --- Additional comments from tomm...@openoffice.org Thu Jul 30 12:26:49 + 2009 --- nice to see that the new feature has been correctly implemented!!! thanks to the developers!!! - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@framework.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@framework.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[framework-issues] [Issue 4756] Expand shortcut possibiliti es (Use of Alt key is not offered)
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4756 --- Additional comments from m...@openoffice.org Thu Jul 30 13:29:26 + 2009 --- Thanks for the flowers. :-) - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@framework.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@framework.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[framework-issues] [Issue 4756] Expand shortcut possibiliti es (Use of Alt key is not offered)
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4756 --- Additional comments from corno...@openoffice.org Sun Jul 19 09:59:02 + 2009 --- works fine on my WinXP with DEV300m52 Thanks! - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@framework.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@framework.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[framework-issues] [Issue 4756] Expand shortcut possibiliti es (Use of Alt key is not offered)
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4756 --- Additional comments from j...@openoffice.org Thu Jul 16 14:54:34 + 2009 --- Verifying: I see the new behavior in DEV300_m52 (Linux) under Tools Customize. I could assign a function to the Alt+G key chord and use it; deleting the custom entry seems ok as well. Nice! - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@framework.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@framework.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[framework-issues] [Issue 4756] Expand shortcut possibiliti es (Use of Alt key is not offered)
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4756 User tbo changed the following: What|Old value |New value Status|VERIFIED |CLOSED --- Additional comments from t...@openoffice.org Thu May 14 11:24:47 + 2009 --- Integrated into DEV300m48 - closing You may download from: ftp://ooopackages.good-day.net/pub/OpenOffice.org/MacOSX/Dev_DEV300_m48/ (Other builds are not yet available public.) - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@framework.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@framework.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[framework-issues] [Issue 4756] Expand shortcut possibiliti es (Use of Alt key is not offered)
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4756 --- Additional comments from tomm...@openoffice.org Tue May 5 15:30:17 + 2009 --- ok, thanks 4 feedback. i'll wait till november '09 - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@framework.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@framework.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[framework-issues] [Issue 4756] Expand shortcut possibiliti es (Use of Alt key is not offered)
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4756 --- Additional comments from tomm...@openoffice.org Mon May 4 14:59:39 + 2009 --- Issue 3.2 has been scheduled for end of november. I've also heard rumors about releasing a 3.1.1 between the incoming 3.1 (march 7th) and future 3.2 Is there any chance we could see the new hotkeys feature in the 3.1.1 instead of the 3.2? waiting till november is very hard... - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@framework.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@framework.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[framework-issues] [Issue 4756] Expand shortcut possibiliti es (Use of Alt key is not offered)
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4756 --- Additional comments from m...@openoffice.org Mon May 4 20:22:08 + 2009 --- We don't add new features to micro releases, sorry. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@framework.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@framework.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[framework-issues] [Issue 4756] Expand shortcut possibiliti es (Use of Alt key is not offered)
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4756 User mba changed the following: What|Old value |New value Assigned to|mba |tbo --- Additional comments from m...@openoffice.org Thu Apr 30 10:55:50 + 2009 --- Hint for QA: the new functionality is described in #desc90. Accessing shortcuts can be done by putting focus into the large listbox and pressing the desired key combination. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@framework.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@framework.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[framework-issues] [Issue 4756] Expand shortcut possibiliti es (Use of Alt key is not offered)
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4756 User tbo changed the following: What|Old value |New value Status|RESOLVED |VERIFIED --- Additional comments from t...@openoffice.org Thu Apr 30 12:21:49 + 2009 --- seen in cws mba32issues01 - verified - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@framework.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@framework.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[framework-issues] [Issue 4756] Expand shortcut possibiliti es (Use of Alt key is not offered)
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4756 --- Additional comments from m...@openoffice.org Fri Apr 17 06:16:56 + 2009 --- O.K., so let's wait with judging about issue 101133 until then. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@framework.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@framework.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[framework-issues] [Issue 4756] Expand shortcut possibiliti es (Use of Alt key is not offered)
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4756 --- Additional comments from grahamper...@openoffice.org Thu Apr 16 12:32:40 + 2009 --- Issue 101133 … looking at it now, may be a duplicate of this issue 4756. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@framework.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@framework.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[framework-issues] [Issue 4756] Expand shortcut possibiliti es (Use of Alt key is not offered)
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4756 --- Additional comments from m...@openoffice.org Thu Apr 16 14:23:07 + 2009 --- Shall I upload a build for testing? - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@framework.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@framework.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[framework-issues] [Issue 4756] Expand shortcut possibiliti es (Use of Alt key is not offered)
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4756 --- Additional comments from grahamper...@openoffice.org Fri Apr 17 01:51:03 + 2009 --- @mba: very kind, thanks, but don't build for me alone; I'm happy to wait for a relevant build to appear at http://download.openoffice.org/next/ - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@framework.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@framework.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[framework-issues] [Issue 4756] Expand shortcut possibiliti es (Use of Alt key is not offered)
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4756 User kaplan changed the following: What|Old value |New value CC|'cloph,cornouws,erikanders|'cloph,cornouws,erikanders |on3,grahamperrin,hwoarang,|on3,grahamperrin,hwoarang, |jolatt,mba,pmike,regina,ro|jolatt,kaplan,mba,pmike,re |llom,talcohen'|gina,rollom,talcohen' - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@framework.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@framework.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[framework-issues] [Issue 4756] Expand shortcut possibiliti es (Use of Alt key is not offered)
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4756 --- Additional comments from grahamper...@openoffice.org Wed Apr 15 12:38:50 + 2009 --- Thanks to developers and all other contributors for progressing this :) For reference: http://download.openoffice.org/next/ http://eis.services.openoffice.org/ http://eis.services.openoffice.org/EIS2/cws.ShowCWS?Path=DEV300%2Fmba32issues01 … and until integration occurs, I'll probably stop thinking about shortcuts (the shortcuts shown in the Customize dialogue are different from the actual shortcuts, but that's a different bug ;) - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@framework.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@framework.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[framework-issues] [Issue 4756] Expand shortcut possibiliti es (Use of Alt key is not offered)
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4756 --- Additional comments from grahamper...@openoffice.org Wed Apr 15 12:39:54 + 2009 --- Thanks to developers and all other contributors for progressing this :) For reference: http://download.openoffice.org/next/ http://eis.services.openoffice.org/ http://eis.services.openoffice.org/EIS2/cws.ShowCWS?Path=DEV300%2Fmba32issues01 … and until integration occurs, I'll probably have to stop thinking about shortcuts (what's shown in the Customize dialogue contradicts the actual shortcuts, but that'll be a different bug ;) - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@framework.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@framework.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[framework-issues] [Issue 4756] Expand shortcut possibiliti es (Use of Alt key is not offered)
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4756 --- Additional comments from m...@openoffice.org Wed Apr 15 13:12:02 + 2009 --- Can you explain where you see contradictions? Some examples might suffice. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@framework.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@framework.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[framework-issues] [Issue 4756] Expand shortcut possibiliti es (Use of Alt key is not offered)
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4756 --- Additional comments from pdegro...@openoffice.org Thu Apr 9 03:31:14 + 2009 --- Excellent. This was a showstopper for me. I'm a keyboard and macro person and not having these keyboard meant that changing to Writer from Word (which I would like to do) would mean more compromises than I'm willing to make. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@framework.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@framework.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[framework-issues] [Issue 4756] Expand shortcut possibiliti es (Use of Alt key is not offered)
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4756 --- Additional comments from m...@openoffice.org Mon Apr 6 11:02:53 + 2009 --- Just a remark: the configuration dialog will support no modifier, SHIFT, CTRL, SHIFT-CTRL, ALT, SHIFT-ALT, CTRL-ALT, CTRL-SHIFT-ALT with the following keys: KEY_F1- KEY_F12, KEY_DOWN, KEY_UP, KEY_LEFT, KEY_RIGHT, KEY_HOME, KEY_END, KEY_PAGEUP, KEY_PAGEDOWN, KEY_RETURN, KEY_BACKSPACE, KEY_INSERT, KEY_DELETE The following keys are supported only with at least CTRL or ALT pressed: KEY_0 - KEY_9, KEY_A - KEY_Z, KEY_SPACE, KEY_ADD, KEY_SUBTRACT, KEY_MULTIPLY, KEY_DIVIDE Several complaints have been given that the list of keys should be extended also. While I agree to that I would like to fix that in a second step (unless someone came up with undisputed(!) list now). This will be covered by issue 27081. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@framework.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@framework.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[framework-issues] [Issue 4756] Expand shortcut possibiliti es (Use of Alt key is not offered)
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4756 User mba changed the following: What|Old value |New value Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution| |FIXED --- Additional comments from m...@openoffice.org Tue Mar 3 15:37:58 + 2009 --- fixed in cws mba32issues01 - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@framework.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@framework.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[framework-issues] [Issue 4756] Expand shortcut possibiliti es (Use of Alt key is not offered)
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4756 --- Additional comments from rol...@openoffice.org Tue Mar 3 15:42:39 + 2009 --- NICE! Thanks to all who helped to fix this! - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@framework.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@framework.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[framework-issues] [Issue 4756] Expand shortcut possibiliti es (Use of Alt key is not offered)
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4756 --- Additional comments from tomm...@openoffice.org Tue Mar 3 19:55:41 + 2009 --- does this mean is gonna be available in OOo 3.1 or OOo 3.2? - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@framework.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@framework.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[framework-issues] [Issue 4756] Expand shortcut possibiliti es (Use of Alt key is not offered)
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4756 --- Additional comments from m...@openoffice.org Wed Mar 4 06:48:12 + 2009 --- As the target milestone is 3.2 ... - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@framework.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@framework.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[framework-issues] [Issue 4756] Expand shortcut possibiliti es (Use of Alt key is not offered)
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4756 --- Additional comments from tomm...@openoffice.org Wed Mar 4 07:20:22 + 2009 --- OK, i will patiently wait till September 2009. thanks for fixing it!!! - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@framework.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@framework.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[framework-issues] [Issue 4756] Expand shortcut possibiliti es (Use of Alt key is not offered)
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4756 --- Additional comments from corno...@openoffice.org Sun Feb 15 09:04:27 + 2009 --- @mbayer: no problem that you estimated u...@ooo's role higher - better than the other way round, afaiac ;-) @tommy27: code freeze is in about 5.5 months, but for an extension, that does not sound impossible. I didn't have time yet to look at the upcoming 3.1 ... but of course, for time being, people who don't want to wait can edit the configuration files directly as a solution. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@framework.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@framework.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[framework-issues] [Issue 4756] Expand shortcut possibiliti es (Use of Alt key is not offered)
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4756 --- Additional comments from tomm...@openoffice.org Sun Feb 15 09:08:54 + 2009 --- ok, i hope that manual editing ot the shorcut configuration in OOo 3.1 would be a simple think and doens't require NASA engineering skills... - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@framework.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@framework.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[framework-issues] [Issue 4756] Expand shortcut possibiliti es (Use of Alt key is not offered)
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4756 --- Additional comments from m...@openoffice.org Sun Feb 15 13:15:37 + 2009 --- Just enabling the dialog to use ALT is easy, but we always thought that we shouldn't leave the users alone with the situation that many configurable shortcuts won't work because the system takes them over. But if it was acceptable to ignore that for now, it would be possible to implement ALT-Support soon. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@framework.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@framework.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[framework-issues] [Issue 4756] Expand shortcut possibiliti es (Use of Alt key is not offered)
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4756 --- Additional comments from tomm...@openoffice.org Sun Feb 15 13:27:53 + 2009 --- nice news. i'd be glad to use ALT shortcut at my own risk: u warnned me. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@framework.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@framework.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[framework-issues] [Issue 4756] Expand shortcut possibiliti es (Use of Alt key is not offered)
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4756 --- Additional comments from mba...@openoffice.org Sun Feb 15 13:58:30 + 2009 --- It is the status quo especially under Linux, that many of OOo's pre-defined keyboard shortcuts cannot be used, because the window manager/ desktop manager catches them: just think Ctrl+F1 ... Ctrl+F12 which switches to virtual desktop 1 ... 12, or Ctrl+Tabulator which switches to the next virtual desktop, and so on. But I think this is not a reason against, but *for* making the Alt key available for keyboard shortcuts configuration via the GUI: that way the user has more choices to *avoid* a shortcut is being catched by the desktop manager. Currently one is limited to shortcuts without the Alt key. On the other hand, since there are some pre-defined keyboard shortcuts in OOo which use the Alt key (think Ctrl+Alt+Cursor up, or the newly introduced Ctrl+Alt+N), one has to be able to define an other shortcut for these actions (e.g. in case the default is already in use for the desktop manager). Currently one cannot configure these shortcuts at all. Thus, I cannot see why OOo should preclude its users from defining/ undefining/ redefining keyboard shortcuts with the Alt key any longer. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@framework.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@framework.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[framework-issues] [Issue 4756] Expand shortcut possibiliti es (Use of Alt key is not offered)
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4756 --- Additional comments from mba...@openoffice.org Sun Feb 15 14:11:52 + 2009 --- *** Issue 6342 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. *** - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@framework.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@framework.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[framework-issues] [Issue 4756] Expand shortcut possibiliti es (Use of Alt key is not offered)
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4756 User mba changed the following: What|Old value |New value Status|REOPENED |STARTED Target milestone|not determined|OOo 3.2 --- Additional comments from m...@openoffice.org Sun Feb 15 14:42:05 + 2009 --- I will try to move that forward. This will comprise the change of the dialog and moving existing hard coded shortcuts using ALT to the configuration files. I will add support for ALT and SHIFT ALT. We could also add CTRL-ALT and CTRL-SHIFT-ALT... There are a lot of other questions to solve (platform specific issues etc.) but for now let's just solve the first problem with the missing support in the dialog, everything else can be solved later. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@framework.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@framework.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[framework-issues] [Issue 4756] Expand shortcut possibiliti es (Use of Alt key is not offered)
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4756 User mba changed the following: What|Old value |New value Assigned to|requirements |mba Status|STARTED |NEW --- Additional comments from m...@openoffice.org Sun Feb 15 14:42:38 + 2009 --- assigning to myself - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@framework.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@framework.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[framework-issues] [Issue 4756] Expand shortcut possibiliti es (Use of Alt key is not offered)
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4756 --- Additional comments from measd...@openoffice.org Sun Feb 15 14:45:55 + 2009 --- If Alt-key combinations are actually assignable through the config files at present, is this also true for the other combinations in the original request (ie. allowing shortcut combinations for symbols and keyboard-specific characters)? In other packages, I regularly assign Ctrl+ and Ctrl+ which (on some keyboards) are Ctrl+Shift+, and Ctrl+Shift+. Or Ctrl+[ and Ctrl+]. Or should those be spun off into a separate issue, if the Alt question is resolved? - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@framework.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@framework.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[framework-issues] [Issue 4756] Expand shortcut possibiliti es (Use of Alt key is not offered)
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4756 --- Additional comments from tomm...@openoffice.org Sun Feb 15 14:50:26 + 2009 --- mba i appreciate very much that u decide to take care of this issue and that you set target milestone to OOo 3.2. have a good work - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@framework.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@framework.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[framework-issues] [Issue 4756] Expand shortcut possibiliti es (Use of Alt key is not offered)
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4756 --- Additional comments from reg...@openoffice.org Sun Feb 15 15:11:02 + 2009 --- @measdale: Using [ and and such other keys is already tracked in issue 27081. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@framework.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@framework.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[framework-issues] [Issue 4756] Expand shortcut possibiliti es (Use of Alt key is not offered)
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4756 --- Additional comments from m...@openoffice.org Sun Feb 15 17:56:13 + 2009 --- Just a comment from my side about how I see the platform problem. VCL defines several keyboard modifiers. Since I can remember we always had MOD1 and MOD2 that e.g. on Windows map to CTRL and ALT. I don't know how many modifiers we support nowadays on the different platforms, but I will find out. In general we can offer access to all keys and modifiers that VCL shows us. To my current knowledge this does not allow us to differentiate between the numeric and the normal keyboard. And I also doubt that the configuration format can do that. I have to find that out. The different platforms will create the following problems: - Some keys are reserved on platform X, but not on platform Y. That means that we must not use them for predefined shortcuts (that's true already now!) and we either leave it up to the user to find out if his desired personal shortcut in OOo works on his platform or we can try to assist him. As the latter will be quite some effort, I opt for not doing this, at least now. - a user keyboard shortcut might work on one platform but not on another. This can create a problem in a user profile shared between several platforms. I consider this a very rare case and again would like to leave it up to the user to define shortcuts in a way that they work on all used platforms. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@framework.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@framework.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[framework-issues] [Issue 4756] Expand shortcut possibiliti es (Use of Alt key is not offered)
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4756 --- Additional comments from erikanders...@openoffice.org Sun Feb 15 18:04:41 + 2009 --- @mba: I strongly recommend that OOo be allowed to use *any* recognizable keycode, beyond just Ctrl, Alt, and Shift. I regularly make use of the Win and Alt-Gr key modifiers, for instance. Concerns about desktop environments or window managers catching the keypresses could be alleviated simply by notifying the user that this might happen. If someone is going so far as to customize their keyboard input, they are very probably already savvy enough to deal with such concerns, provided they have a hint at where to look to change their system settings. Another option for avoiding key combos that the DE or WM catch instead is to have the user input the desired key combo in the dialog -- I believe this is what MS Word already does, and is also what the KDE config dialogs do. If the desired key combo produces a strange effect instead of appearing in the OOo dialog, it's pretty clear that that key combo is being caught. Just my $0.02. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@framework.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@framework.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[framework-issues] [Issue 4756] Expand shortcut possibiliti es (Use of Alt key is not offered)
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4756 --- Additional comments from erikanders...@openoffice.org Sun Feb 15 19:03:18 + 2009 --- @mba: Looks like we just missed each other. Thank you for explaining about VCL; I assume this is a library that OOo uses? And I agree about leaving it to the user to deal with conflicts, provided that the OOo dialog includes a caveat explaining this. Perhaps something simple like, WARNING: Some key combinations might be reserved by your operating system. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@framework.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@framework.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[framework-issues] [Issue 4756] Expand shortcut possibiliti es (Use of Alt key is not offered)
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4756 --- Additional comments from tomm...@openoffice.org Sat Feb 14 17:33:19 + 2009 --- i think that after almost 9 years this issue deserve to be fixed. please consider it for OOo 3.2 which is planned for september 2009 http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/OOoRelease32 - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@framework.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@framework.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[framework-issues] [Issue 4756] Expand shortcut possibiliti es (Use of Alt key is not offered)
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4756 --- Additional comments from mba...@openoffice.org Sat Feb 14 18:48:13 + 2009 --- Please don't be too optimistic with development goals. If you want this issue to be fixed in one of the next releases of OOo, submit a patch for it, or join the disc...@ux.openoffice.org mailing list in order to make the UX team recommend this issue for development, please. The UX mailing list is also the right place for all kinds of discussions about this issue. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@framework.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@framework.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[framework-issues] [Issue 4756] Expand shortcut possibiliti es (Use of Alt key is not offered)
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4756 --- Additional comments from m...@openoffice.org Sat Feb 14 19:47:07 + 2009 --- ALT-Keys are usable for shortcuts since quite some time. It's just the dialog that wasn't changed (because it needed a complete rewrite). As keyboard shortcut configuration in 3.1 is now based on configuration files it should be easier to provide a new shortcut configuration dialog. Perhaps someone is motivated to write an extension?! - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@framework.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@framework.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[framework-issues] [Issue 4756] Expand shortcut possibiliti es (Use of Alt key is not offered)
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4756 --- Additional comments from corno...@openoffice.org Sat Feb 14 19:52:15 + 2009 --- Just for clarification: ux has important tasks. Recommending issues for development, however, is not one of those. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@framework.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@framework.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[framework-issues] [Issue 4756] Expand shortcut possibiliti es (Use of Alt key is not offered)
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4756 --- Additional comments from mba...@openoffice.org Sat Feb 14 20:25:47 + 2009 --- @mba: I don't see why this should be left to an extension, since this issue is about making OOo configurable via OOo's GUI. @cornouws: I'm sorry; I somehow must have misunderstood UX's role in the Quarterly Reviews. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@framework.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@framework.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[framework-issues] [Issue 4756] Expand shortcut possibiliti es (Use of Alt key is not offered)
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4756 --- Additional comments from tomm...@openoffice.org Sun Feb 15 06:57:36 + 2009 --- @mba do u think that dialog could be rewritten in time for OOo 3.2? are 7 months from now enough to do it? - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@framework.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@framework.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[framework-issues] [Issue 4756] Expand shortcut possibiliti es (Use of Alt key is not offered)
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4756 --- Additional comments from grahamper...@openoffice.org Mon Jan 26 08:14:33 + 2009 --- Created an attachment (id=59660) sudo grep -R accel:mod2 /Applications/OpenOffice.org.app - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@framework.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@framework.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[framework-issues] [Issue 4756] Expand shortcut possibiliti es (Use of Alt key is not offered)
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4756 --- Additional comments from grahamper...@openoffice.org Mon Jan 26 17:27:19 + 2009 --- Please ignore all 25th/26th January comments/attachments from me. Terribly sorry. Confusion with duplicates. I completely lost sight of issue 92224. Thanks to Regina for off-ticket steering me. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@framework.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@framework.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[framework-issues] [Issue 4756] Expand shortcut possibiliti es (Use of Alt key is not offered)
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4756 --- Additional comments from grahamper...@openoffice.org Sun Jan 25 19:59:39 + 2009 --- Discussion at http://n2.nabble.com/-tt2214450.html rephrases what was explicit in issue 93749 (implicit in issue 96184): Impossible to select words using the keyboard in OOo 3 for Mac OS X - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@framework.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@framework.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[framework-issues] [Issue 4756] Expand shortcut possibiliti es (Use of Alt key is not offered)
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[framework-issues] [Issue 4756] Expand shortcut possibiliti es (Use of Alt key is not offered)
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[framework-issues] [Issue 4756] Expand shortcut possibiliti es (Use of Alt key is not offered)
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4756 --- Additional comments from grahamper...@openoffice.org Mon Jan 26 07:21:00 + 2009 --- Apple Human Interface Guidelines: The Keyboard http://developer.apple.com/documentation/userexperience/Conceptual/AppleHIGuidelines/XHIGUser Input/chapter_12_section_3.html Apple Human Interface Guidelines: The Keyboard: Extending Text Selection With the Shift and Arrow Keys http://developer.apple.com/documentation/userexperience/Conceptual/AppleHIGuidelines/XHIGUser Input/chapter_12_section_3.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP3361-TPXREF17 Apple Human Interface Guidelines: Keyboard Shortcuts Quick Reference http://developer.apple.com/documentation/userexperience/Conceptual/AppleHIGuidelines/XHIGKey boardShortcuts/chapter_950_section_1.html http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/How_Tos/Edit_Keyboard_Configuration_File (not tested on Mac) thanks to Regina. Re issue 93749: four lines that must be corrected for Apple HIG for The Keyboard are probably at http://www.openoffice.org/nonav/issues/showattachment.cgi/59658/current.xml lines 68 69 95 96 In HIG http://tinyurl.com/apple-hig-ooo-93749 the four corresponding statements are: Shift–Option–Right Arrow To the end of the current word, then to the end of the next word Shift–Option–Left Arrow To the beginning of the current word, then to the beginning of the previous word Shift–Option–Up Arrow To the beginning of the current paragraph, then to the beginning of the next paragraph Shift–Option–Down Arrow To the end of the current paragraph, then to the end of the next paragraph (include the blank line between paragraphs in cut, copy, and paste operations) --- Re issue 96184: sorry, I can not find the conflicting lines that must be corrected, but I will keep looking. The summary line there reminds us that the four key combinations MUST NOT manipulate tables I guess that I must identify the keyboard configuration file that relates to edition of tables. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@framework.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@framework.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[framework-issues] [Issue 4756] Expand shortcut possibiliti es (Use of Alt key is not offered)
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4756 --- Additional comments from grahamper...@openoffice.org Mon Jan 26 07:26:00 + 2009 --- Sorry, I forgot that Bugzilla breaks long URLs. Here are the tinyurl equivalents: Apple Human Interface Guidelines: The Keyboard http://tinyurl.com/apple-hig-the-keyboard http://developer.apple.com/documentation/userexperience/Conceptual/AppleHIGuidelines/XHIGUser Input/chapter_12_section_3.html Apple Human Interface Guidelines: The Keyboard: Extending Text Selection With the Shift and Arrow Keys http://tinyurl.com/apple-hig-ooo-93749 http://developer.apple.com/documentation/userexperience/Conceptual/AppleHIGuidelines/XHIGUser Input/chapter_12_section_3.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP3361-TPXREF17 Apple Human Interface Guidelines: Keyboard Shortcuts Quick Reference http://tinyurl.com/apple-hig-keyboard-shortcuts http://developer.apple.com/documentation/userexperience/Conceptual/AppleHIGuidelines/XHIGKey boardShortcuts/chapter_950_section_1.html - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@framework.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@framework.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[framework-issues] [Issue 4756] Expand shortcut possibiliti es (Use of Alt key is not offered)
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[framework-issues] [Issue 4756] Expand shortcut possibiliti es (Use of Alt key is not offered)
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4756 --- Additional comments from tomm...@openoffice.org Sat Dec 27 08:34:27 + 2008 --- well, if 2-3 weeks are needed i think it could be done for OOo 3.1 which is planned to be released at the end of March. user waited so long for this isses which is one of the oldest here but a target milestone has not been decided yet. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@framework.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@framework.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[framework-issues] [Issue 4756] Expand shortcut possibiliti es (Use of Alt key is not offered)
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4756 --- Additional comments from corno...@openoffice.org Sat Dec 27 08:54:15 + 2008 --- @ Tommy27, Hi Tomy, You write i think it could be done for OOo 3.1 When you talk about your own agenda, you might be right ... only you just missed the feature freeze date. Pls see. http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/OOoRelease31 Sorry, but an excellent product needs good planing and testing. Cor - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@framework.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@framework.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[framework-issues] [Issue 4756] Expand shortcut possibiliti es (Use of Alt key is not offered)
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4756 --- Additional comments from tomm...@openoffice.org Sat Dec 27 09:02:24 + 2008 --- u r right. so, let's do it for 3.2 :-) - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@framework.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@framework.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[framework-issues] [Issue 4756] Expand shortcut possibiliti es (Use of Alt key is not offered)
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4756 User mba changed the following: What|Old value |New value CC|'cloph,cornouws,erikanders|'cloph,cornouws,erikanders |on3,grahamperrin,hwoarang,|on3,grahamperrin,hwoarang, |jolatt,pmike,regina,rollom|jolatt,mba,pmike,regina,ro |,talcohen'|llom,talcohen' - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@framework.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@framework.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[framework-issues] [Issue 4756] Expand shortcut possibiliti es (Use of Alt key is not offered)
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4756 --- Additional comments from m...@openoffice.org Fri Dec 26 20:51:21 + 2008 --- Sorry, but isn't this issue a duplicate to issue 6342 (or vice versa ;-)) ? Nevertheless, without going into all the details of the long discussion here: of course the request to be able to use ALT for *custom* shortcuts is absolutely valid. Moreover, we already use ALT for *preconfigured* shortcuts already, so I can't see any reason not to support that in the configuration dialog. The effort for this feature isn't extraordinarily, but it's also not low. A rough estimation: 2-3 weeks development time plus QA. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@framework.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@framework.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
[framework-issues] [Issue 4756] Expand shortcut possibiliti es (Use of Alt key is not offered)
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4756 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Nov 24 12:08:54 + 2008 --- a question to sba and OOo developers. is this enhancement (allow more hotkeys combinations) difficult to implement? as regina said it's already possible to to it by editing the configuration file directly. unfortunately this method it's not very user friendly. it seems to me that if an expert user can do it manually, it should not be that hard for developers to implement this enhancement in the GUI. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[framework-issues] [Issue 4756] Expand shortcut possibiliti es (Use of Alt key is not offered)
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4756 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Nov 18 11:50:48 + 2008 --- @ mbayer: thanks, and apologies. In some other trackers discussion is encouraged but I see that in OOo it rapidly makes tickets difficult to follow. I find http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/HowTo_Join_the_User_Experience_Community and have completed step one of five. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[framework-issues] [Issue 4756] Expand shortcut possibiliti es (Use of Alt key is not offered)
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4756 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Nov 17 09:06:28 + 2008 --- Opened: Sat May 11 19:59:00 + 2002 --- Additional comments from matthiasbasler Sun Nov 16 13:10:43 + 2008 --- Being the original reporter I feel like I should respond to the recent comments as well: Thanks to matthiasbasler for following this issue with such great patience. just one out of three examples, so please don't reduce the issue to just the Alt+... part. +1 to that plea. 2. tommy27 wrote people who do not need Alt+soemthing hotkey could easily leave those unassigned. Exactly. Nobody would be hurt. +1 I might add that probably most users only work with OOo under one OS only and therefore wouldn't even notice that the shortcut possibilities might be different on different OS. +1 On this point: by coincidence at the weekend I took an unbiased colleague from Plone community with me to irc://irc.freenode.net/#dev.openoffice.org and quizzed him for responses to scenarios in which shortcut keys might not behave as expected if ever he found himself using OOo on a platform other than his preferred Linux. From this person: there were no cries of displeasure, which (to me) supports the multi-platform *user* observation made by matthiasbasler. However: focusing on the multi-platform *application* there is a critical observation: tables being wrecked in OOo -- and with such wreckage in mind (without any argument over recent points in this issue 4756, and without detracting votes from this issue) I refer readers to issue 96184 where -- on Mac OS X -- certain shortcuts historically associated with tables _MUST NOT_ manipulate tables. With all due respect I suggest that developers should visualise some balance between: a) the time and effort required to generally improve the keyboard-related _options_ in OOo _without regard to platform_ b) the time and effort required to more urgently address _conflicts_ in which a traditional shortcut on a particular platform is found to have a confusing or (worse) destructive effect on another platform. Issue 96184 is just one example of a destructive issue. As use of OOo 3 spreads (we should welcome this spread) so I suspect that other destructive issues may be found. Already, as Erik draws attention to the quoted text concerning accented characters, I realise that I _always_ use alt key combined with _a wide variety of letters on the keyboard_ to produce é è and _a wide variety of other on-screen characters_ that are not keyboard-standard in my locale. Such conflicts may prove to be non-destructive (I have not experimented, I should do) but in any case we should: i) be prepared for further reports of such conflicts (I should not be surprised to discover current and future tickets that Bugzilla organisers may wish to treat as duplicates of this one) and ii) be prepared to deal gracefully with complaints -- respect each other's wishes and requirements. --- Additional comments from erikanderson3 Sun Nov 16 23:36:08 + 2008 --- Restricting OOo shortcut options, though simpler to develop, does not strike me as a particularly user-friendly approach. Just my $0.02. -- and in issue 96184 -- where a very common shortcut that's intended for system-wide simple selection of words is found to have destructive effect in OOo -- even when I aim to manipulate OOo configuration files at file system level, I find no way of removing the offending shortcut. (I assume that OOo mod2 is 'alt' on Mac as OOo mod2 is 'alt' on other platforms, yes?) Incidentally, I did wonder whether 'destructive' is too strong a word but all things considered I think it is fair. For someone like me who copy types and uses the tab key and other keys within tables _without looking at the screen_, it is truly destructive to find (when one does look at the screen) that OOo has wrecked a previously good table. There are undo commands, true, but it feels very bad. Just my twopenneth. To close my comment, with a focus on the summary lines of issues Expand shortcut possibilities (Use of Alt key is not offered) -- this issue 4756 may be related to expansion of OOo _options_ -- my issue 96184 involves _conflicts_ without options, for which workarounds (if any) may be terribly obscure. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail:
[framework-issues] [Issue 4756] Expand shortcut possibiliti es (Use of Alt key is not offered)
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4756 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Nov 17 11:15:52 + 2008 --- While I appreciate this issue arouses the interest of the community, I would like to remind my fellow users of OOo that holding discussions in issues is not very productive. Instead, join the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list, please. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4756 User hwoarang changed the following: What|Old value |New value CC|'cloph,cornouws,erikanders|'cloph,cornouws,erikanders |on3,grahamperrin,jolatt,pm|on3,grahamperrin,hwoarang, |ike,regina,rollom,talcohen|jolatt,pmike,regina,rollom |' |,talcohen' - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[framework-issues] [Issue 4756] Expand shortcut possibiliti es (Use of Alt key is not offered)
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4756 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Nov 16 13:10:43 + 2008 --- Being the original reporter I feel like I should respond to the recent comments as well: 1. Please read my first comment. The Alt key combinations were just one out of three examples, so please don't reduce the issue to just the Alt+... part. 2. tommy27 wrote people who do not need Alt+soemthing hotkey could easily leave those unassigned. Exactly. Nobody would be hurt. I might add that probably most users only work with OOo under one OS only and therefore wouldn't even notice that the shortcut possibilities might be different on different OS. 3. The discussion whether OOo is a M$ Office clone or not seems totally irrelevant to me. Given that most OOo users are Windows users, offering a Windows-only solution would still make sense imho. Even offering features only available on Mac OS and/or Linux can make sense. There is imho no problem with OS specific features in OOo as long as they are documented for the user. Besides a lot of features in OOo are used only by a minority of people, and compared to them the features suggested in this issue have (quite obviously) a LOT of potential users. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[framework-issues] [Issue 4756] Expand shortcut possibiliti es (Use of Alt key is not offered)
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4756 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Nov 16 15:55:47 + 2008 --- 100% agree with matthiasbasler - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[framework-issues] [Issue 4756] Expand shortcut possibiliti es (Use of Alt key is not offered)
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4756 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Nov 16 23:36:08 + 2008 --- Ditto Matthias's comment. And I point folks also to burg1's comment: (as suggested on other issues before) drop the system of selecting a new shortcut from a predefined list. Instead, let the users press the actual shortcut themselves (and have OOo read it from the keyboard), as in M$ Word. Some of sba's (and the other devs'?) concern seems to be with predefined OOo shortcuts that might have to be different on different OSes. While I see no problem with that in principle (users of multiple OSes generally understand that key bindings are perforce different on the different platforms), I also think burg1's suggestion also has a lot of merit -- user-defined shortcut possibilities should not be constrained to a predefined list of key options. Matthias's original posting likewise suggests this: c) Allow Shortcuts with language-specitic characters for foreign keyboards, as for example Strg+Ö or Alt+Shift+å Basically, if the user has any particular key on the keyboard, they should be able to use that for any user-defined keyboard shortcut -- be that å or Alt or Apple or Hyper, or what have you. Concerns about window managers grabbing the keypress instead of OOo should be addressed not by limiting OOo options, but rather by: 1) OOo querying the WM and notifying the user if a certain combo is unavailable (ideal, but much more complicated) or 2) simply warning the user in the keyboard shortcut definition dialog that the WM might already have certain key combos defined, such that certain OOo keyboard shortcut possibilities might not work. Restricting OOo shortcut options, though simpler to develop, does not strike me as a particularly user-friendly approach. Just my $0.02. Cheers, -- Erik Anderson - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4756 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Nov 15 08:23:06 + 2008 --- issue has been reopened. thnak you sba for your understanding. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[framework-issues] [Issue 4756] Expand shortcut possibiliti es (Use of Alt key is not offered)
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4756 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Nov 15 14:03:11 + 2008 --- @ regina: thanks, http://www.diigo.com/annotated/00b38c25e61547ab61dd4d0f791a073e for an annotated view of your wiki page. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[framework-issues] [Issue 4756] Expand shortcut possibiliti es (Use of Alt key is not offered)
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4756 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Nov 15 14:15:27 + 2008 --- See also Issue 96235 Tools menu | Customize… | option to customise Keyboard is missing if Tools menu is called whilst Start Centre is present - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[framework-issues] [Issue 4756] Expand shortcut possibiliti es (Use of Alt key is not offered)
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4756 User sba changed the following: What|Old value |New value Assigned to|bh|requirements Status|REOPENED |NEW Summary|Expand shortcut possibilit|Expand shortcut possibilit |ies |ies (Use of Alt key is n | |ot offered) --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Nov 14 12:06:59 + 2008 --- Adjusting summary. It is about the Alt key and that should be visible. I spoke to PL. Alt combinations are possible to implement, but the OpenOffice.org worls must be regarded as Works on all platforms. Being reduced to Windows and serving people looking for a free-to-use MS Office clone would have meant that this issue would have been adressed long time ago. But OOo is NOT a Windows-only free MS Office clone! As said before, given the variety of opereating systems and window managers OOo did, does and will run on (Welcome, Mac OS X, by the way), THAT many are already used in total that it makes no sense to have OOo shortcuts that use Alt. They would have to be altered for every system. Anyone willing to document the existing options and limitations (taking ALL platforms and window manager versions into account!!!) after having dropped the Windows only MS Office clone idea)? To me, it looks like implementing the Alt key would serve only the one platform only user to spread his personal adjustments. On the next system, half of them would lead to unexpected results. Reassigned to requirements. I am undecided to close the issue as wontfix. But I set it to wontfix as this is the current opinion among those who contribute developer ressources here. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[framework-issues] [Issue 4756] Expand shortcut possibiliti es (Use of Alt key is not offered)
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4756 User sba changed the following: What|Old value |New value Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution| |WONTFIX --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Nov 14 12:09:32 + 2008 --- Set to wontfix. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[framework-issues] [Issue 4756] Expand shortcut possibiliti es (Use of Alt key is not offered)
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4756 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Nov 14 14:49:38 + 2008 --- What a disappointment. I use OOo on Windows and Linux and have been waiting for this option for years. We're not asking for the Alt keys to be pre-assigned or anythying, just for the option to include any key combination. I would invite you to write a technical article using a large portion of the Greek alphabet plus some mathematical operators, etc. without the option of hotkey combinations for each symbol and decide whether this issue is important. Alt+a puts in an alpha much easier that reaching for the mouse, moving over Insert Special Character selecting Times selecting Basic greek clicking on alpha and closing the window... or remembering all of the key codes and trying that route... Let's not forget that Ctrl+Shift, Super+Ctrl, Super+Shift, Super+Ctrl+shift etc. also can have bindings in the window manager. At least the MW let's me select anything I want as a combination! Not giving the option doesn't help - it's just leaves us who are willing to sort out the WM and OOo key bindings out in the cold. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[framework-issues] [Issue 4756] Expand shortcut possibiliti es (Use of Alt key is not offered)
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4756 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Nov 14 15:03:58 + 2008 --- i'm disappoint too about the WONTFIX decision. :-( people who do not need Alt+soemthing hotkey could easily leave those unassigned. on the otehr hand, people who needed that hotkeys should be able to choose it. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[framework-issues] [Issue 4756] Expand shortcut possibiliti es (Use of Alt key is not offered)
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4756 User regina changed the following: What|Old value |New value Status|RESOLVED |REOPENED Resolution|WONTFIX | --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Nov 14 15:21:34 + 2008 --- OOo can use ALT key already, but you have to edit the configuration file directly. This issue is not about the question whether OOo should use ALT-key but it is about giving the user an UI to assign such shortcuts easier. Of cause there are some OS which use some of the possible short cuts. But that is no problem. We do not ask to use such short cuts as default in every OOo version. But if a Windows wants to use ALT key, do not force him to edit configuration file. If such a Windows user configures his keyboard, this will not hurt any other user. Besides I think, it is not a good way, to set an issue wich such a lot of votes an duplicates to wontfix without discussing this on [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[framework-issues] [Issue 4756] Expand shortcut possibiliti es (Use of Alt key is not offered)
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4756 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Nov 14 15:47:32 + 2008 --- I can see no possible reason why this option should not be adopted. Flexibility is usually the hallmark of OpenOffice and is better encouraged than opposed. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[framework-issues] [Issue 4756] Expand shortcut possibiliti es (Use of Alt key is not offered)
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4756 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Nov 14 16:06:28 + 2008 --- @sba: Sorry, but your argument is completely stupid! 1) What does the Alt-key have to do with the operating system or platform? Anybody can get an industry-standard keyboard that features an Alt-key! 2) If platform-compatibility is the only thing you care about, then I suggest to remove the colors from all icons *immediately*, since some platforms might only support monochrome displays. Bottom line: Enabling Alt-key-shortcuts improves the lives of (at least) 95% of all users, and doesn't do any harm to the rest. We've been waiting for this feature for more than 6 years now!! - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[framework-issues] [Issue 4756] Expand shortcut possibiliti es (Use of Alt key is not offered)
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4756 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Nov 14 16:46:19 + 2008 --- @regina could u please teach me how to edit the ini file to enable Alt+key hotkeys? @sba i respectfully ask you to reconsider your decision about this issue. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[framework-issues] [Issue 4756] Expand shortcut possibiliti es (Use of Alt key is not offered)
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4756 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Nov 14 17:03:26 + 2008 --- I totally agree with regina. Besides everything, a statement like I set it to wontfix as this is the current opinion among those who contribute developer ressources here is unacceptable. What also is not acceptable is introducing new keyboard shortcuts with Alt (Ctrl+Alt+N for notes in OOo3) on the one hand, but keeping users from configuring that very shortcut via the UI on the other hand. If interoperability were a concern, there shouldn't be hard coded shortcuts with Alt in the first place. Note that there was or there is issue 32 (!), and issue 6342 which more or less target on the same thing like this one here. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[framework-issues] [Issue 4756] Expand shortcut possibiliti es (Use of Alt key is not offered)
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4756 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Nov 14 17:06:52 + 2008 --- @tommy27 You find a German description on http://www.ooowiki.de/TastaturAnpassen, part 2.2 Händisches Bearbeiten der Konfiguration. If you need a translation to English please contact me directly, I'll try to help. - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[framework-issues] [Issue 4756] Expand shortcut possibiliti es (Use of Alt key is not offered)
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4756 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Nov 14 17:19:33 + 2008 --- @regina sorry, i don't understand german. i think an english translation would be of interest for everybody round here. @other users please don't be harsh with sba. i don't share his point of view about this issue but i think we should not offend him. let's keep the discussion on a civilized level - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[framework-issues] [Issue 4756] Expand shortcut possibiliti es (Use of Alt key is not offered)
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4756 User jolatt changed the following: What|Old value |New value CC|'cloph,erikanderson3,graha|'cloph,erikanderson3,graha |mperrin,pmike,regina,rollo|mperrin,jolatt,pmike,regin |m,talcohen' |a,rollom,talcohen' - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[framework-issues] [Issue 4756] Expand shortcut possibiliti es (Use of Alt key is not offered)
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4756 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Nov 14 17:41:54 + 2008 --- @tommy27, @everyone: Hear, hear! While I feel it is important on the one hand that sba and the other OOo devs understand how their behaviour is coming across (apparently negatively enough to quite anger some people following this thread), I feel it is equally important that we keep this discourse civil. So for anyone else possibly frustrated with how things are happening, please express yourself politely. One can make a forceful point without including inflammatory language -- and, in fact, any point will be all the more forceful if it is well received. It is worth noting that insults and flaming generally aren't. Cheers, -- Erik Anderson - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[framework-issues] [Issue 4756] Expand shortcut possibiliti es (Use of Alt key is not offered)
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4756 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Nov 14 18:37:25 + 2008 --- For stirring such debate/contention, I am partly to blame. Whilst no-one has requested from me an apology, I do feel that I should offer one. Sorry! Clearly, this is an emotive subject. I assume that discussions will continue in irc://irc.freenode.net/#ooo_macport and in other channels. Re http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/MacOSXPortMeetings I see a meeting, which will be logged, scheduled for Wednesday 26th November. I will aim to be present in IRC for that meeting. Before the 26th: it should be good to gain … if not consensus, then at least *clarity of options*. For now, quoting from another ticket: A quiet period of maybe twenty-four hours or more may be helpful. Respect, and peace, Graham - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[framework-issues] [Issue 4756] Expand shortcut possibiliti es (Use of Alt key is not offered)
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4756 User cornouws changed the following: What|Old value |New value CC|'cloph,erikanderson3,graha|'cloph,cornouws,erikanders |mperrin,jolatt,pmike,regin|on3,grahamperrin,jolatt,pm |a,rollom,talcohen'|ike,regina,rollom,talcohen | |' --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Nov 14 19:11:38 + 2008 --- I read many comments. Already a positive one on sba's question ? ( Anyone willing to document the existing options and limitations (taking ALL platforms and window manager versions into account!!!) after having dropped the Windows only MS Office clone idea)? ) I offer to help with WinXP and Gnome on Linux. But I don't mind to do only one. Those interested may contact me directly, if they so wish. Ciao, Cor - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[framework-issues] [Issue 4756] Expand shortcut possibiliti es (Use of Alt key is not offered)
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4756 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Nov 14 22:52:50 + 2008 --- @tommy72 I have written an English guide and put it temporarily on http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/User:Regina/MyDrafts#Customize_Keyboard - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[framework-issues] [Issue 4756] Expand shortcut possibiliti es (Use of Alt key is not offered)
To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4756 --- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Nov 15 02:36:29 + 2008 --- thanks regina - Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
