Re: [Alpine-l] Large files
Hi, I am on dial-up. It took 45 seconds to enlarge. You have to click on to get the photo, so I could skip it if it would take to long or cancel. I don't know much about computers, as I have msn web-tv and they have the computer. I am getting behind because I have explorer 7 instead of 8 I live in the Washington D.C area Marye Durst ___ Alpine-l mailing list Alpine-l@science.uu.nl http://mailman.science.uu.nl/mailman/listinfo/alpine-l
Re: [Alpine-l] Large files
Anne, Lucky you, keeping the deer out of your garden with icy snow, but then all those rocks and slopes help. Here, in spite of a northerly slope frozen over, forcing us to clamber up and down a long, long drive, for the last three weeks or so, to the cars at the bottom, most of the garden areas are fairly flat. This AM I saw the gang of six plump two year olds(I think), lying down as well as pawing at the snow cover on the grassy slope above the house. One was shoving its head against the netting fence, sigh, so it is time to drag out the pellet gun which, unfortunately does not have much of a range. I enjoy watching the deer but enough is enough...smile. Just wish i could see an adonis or snowdrop poking through. Hopefully it will not be long now. The temperature is close to 57 but then blizzards are always possible into April. Cheerio, Marcia in Ithaca, NY, USA Zone 5 In a message dated 2/14/2011 7:27:21 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, zan...@aol.com writes: Marcia, the one thing that strong icy snow cover does is keep the deer out of the garden here. Because the garden is steep, when it's icy the deer seem to have the good sense to stay out. It's an ill wind ...etc Anne Spiegel Mid-Hudson Valley New York Zone 4b/5a -Original Message- From: arisae...@aol.com To: alpine-l@science.uu.nl Sent: Sun, Feb 13, 2011 10:20 pm Subject: Re: [Alpine-l] Large files Hi Carolyn and All, I guess I am non-tech as well although I dislike the rather pejorative sound of that term. We have no choice here except for very expensive Verizon broadband. All the roads radiating from our location can get cable, but as our short little road has only a few residences, we seem to be neglected. However, even crummy aol would never take 45 minutes to download anything so I have to wonder if the problem for some people is not their carrier. I so wish that the photos could be embedded in the email itself. Such photos are much quicker to show that doing an upload from a download and download/uploads go automatically into one's files,which means one is stuck with these accumulating unwanted except for the initial view. I have to wonder why we cannot do embedded photos as we can on Yahoo lists. Still a strong icy snow cover so I doubt that we will have snowdrops and hamamelis in bloom by the 20th as we did in 2009...sigh. Waiting, waiting...smile. Marcia Meigs in Ithaca, NY USA Zone 5/6 In a message dated 2/13/2011 4:51:32 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, _carolyn.junipersky@gmail.com_ (mailto:carolyn.juniper...@gmail.com) writes: Sorry, I keep forgetting how non-tech this group is. No more photos from the field. I sent the rocks to show the general area to Cliff who mentioned the dryness and said it to the group. Sometimes sending from a phone, the cell tower you are on says it has not sent, but it has. Then when you hit the next tower it sends again causing duplicate messages. 1 MB is pretty standard for most systems, but I now realize not this group. Carolyn Strong Almost to zone 8 now On Feb 13, 2011 1:11 PM, Fran Doyle _daxter@nexicom.net_ (mailto:dax...@nexicom.net) wrote: With regret I must ask you to remove my name from the mailing list. Ms Strong's photos (one sent twice!) took 45 minutes to be received. Do you remember dial-up? Some of us country-dwellers are still stuck with it. It could be suggested to posters that they resize their photos before sending them. I can't be the only person on this list with dial-up. And, no offense meant (although it will probably be taken) but, rocks? Living on the Canadian Shield I am not unfamiliar with them so after waiting 45 minutes I was somewhat disappointed. Thank you, Fran Doyle ___ Alpine-l mailing list _alpin...@science.uu.nl_ (mailto:Alpine-l@science.uu.nl) _http://mailman.science.uu.nl/mailman/listinfo/alpine-l_ (http://mailman.science.uu.nl/mailman/listinfo/alpine-l) ___ Alpine-l mailing list _alpin...@science.uu.nl_ (mailto:Alpine-l@science.uu.nl) _http://mailman.science.uu.nl/mailman/listinfo/alpine-l_ (http://mailman.science.uu.nl/mailman/listinfo/alpine-l) ___ Alpine-l mailing list Alpine-l@science.uu.nl http://mailman.science.uu.nl/mailman/listinfo/alpine-l ___ Alpine-l mailing list Alpine-l@science.uu.nl http://mailman.science.uu.nl/mailman/listinfo/alpine-l
Re: [Alpine-l] Large files
On February 13, 2011, Carolyn Strong wrote: Sorry, I keep forgetting how non-tech this group is. No more photos from the field. I sent the rocks to show the general area to Cliff who mentioned the dryness and said it to the group. Sometimes sending from a phone, the cell tower you are on says it has not sent, but it has. Then when you hit the next tower it sends again causing duplicate messages. 1 MB is pretty standard for most systems, but I now realize not this group. Hold on a minute, Carolyn! I am on high-speed, but your files took several minutes to download here as well. I'll check the size but in any case I think your criticism of Alpine-l is unfair. No matter how techie one is, low-speed reception is low-speed reception, and we don't all of us have a choice. Alpine-l didn't use to allow attachments, for that very reason. The photo gallery is much better anyway. Someone of high-enough tech could probably figure out how to post images there. Lis -- Lis Allison Pine Ridge Studio www.garden-on-the-ridge.blogspot.com ___ Alpine-l mailing list Alpine-l@science.uu.nl http://mailman.science.uu.nl/mailman/listinfo/alpine-l
[Alpine-l] Large files
Dear Carolyn and Alpine-L members, As some may recall after Alpine-L's moved to its new hosting location (back in Dec. 2010), the system allowed file attachments. But with some testing, the recommendation was to NOT send file attachments as these negatively impact members's email inboxes. It is better to use alternative methods to share images, such as posting to AlpenPix; http://botu07.bio.uu.nl/temperate/index.php?gal=AlpenPix If you have questions about posting to FloraPix-AlpenPix galleries, contact FloraPix-AlpenPix Gallery Manager: Paige Woodward (pa...@hillkeep.ca). Feedback on the non-tech comment is clear; it must be remembered that only approximately 43% of the USA has high speed internet available, a surprisingly low number for sure, and when on dial-up because it's the only option, it's all about small file-size. The image that went through is 1.9 Megabyte; relatively huge. The problem these days, digital cameras and smart phones can snap away a bunch of huge files in an instant. The problem is, such images are not yet optimized for the web nor for dial-up or DSL connections, they are about 10x-20x bigger in file size than they need to be. As an unintended consequence to the large file attachment, it kicked off several Alpine-L digests, as digests become initiated after a certain small file size is reached. To Fran Doyle: I know you asked to removed from Alpine-L as a result of the large file download. I hope this was just an isolated incident, and that large file downloads will not be a regular issue. Please send me a personal email if indeed you want to unsubscribe, but I would like to hear from you first. Regards, Mark McDonough Alpine-L list-owner antenna...@charter.net Massachusetts, USA ***your Alpine-L account settings*** http://mailman.science.uu.nl/mailman/listinfo/alpine-l ***Alpine-L archive message links*** http://mailman.science.uu.nl/pipermail/alpine-l/ http://www.mail-archive.com/alpine-l@science.uu.nl/index.html == Carolyn Strong wrote: Sorry, I keep forgetting how non-tech this group is. No more photos from the field. I sent the rocks to show the general area to Cliff who mentioned the dryness and said it to the group. Sometimes sending from a phone, the cell tower you are on says it has not sent, but it has. Then when you hit the next tower it sends again causing duplicate messages. 1 MB is pretty standard for most systems, but I now realize not this group. ___ Alpine-l mailing list Alpine-l@science.uu.nl http://mailman.science.uu.nl/mailman/listinfo/alpine-l
Re: [Alpine-l] Large files
On 02/13/2011 01:51 PM, Carolyn Strong wrote: Sorry, I keep forgetting how non-tech this group is. In my view, this isn't an all-or-nothing thing. Just because one doesn't have all of the latest and the greatest bells and whistlesit doesn't make them non-tech. I pay extra for a high-speed connection and the photos still hung for a while. If properly edited, the quality of pictures is still fine, even when the image file size is ~well under 100k. Alpenpix has the advantage of being a repository for Alpine-L pictures. Again, just my own opinion, but I liked the rock picture and think that habitat photos are valuable. Cheers, Louise Mid-Willamette Valley, Oregon Zones puzzle me more than ever. ___ Alpine-l mailing list Alpine-l@science.uu.nl http://mailman.science.uu.nl/mailman/listinfo/alpine-l
