Re: [Alsa-devel] Fwd: RE: To ESS Tech Support

2003-06-19 Thread Giuliano Pochini

On 18-Jun-2003 Warren Turkal wrote:
 Any suggestions on how?

Ask him the address of his boss.


Bye.



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[Alsa-devel] Fwd: RE: To ESS Tech Support

2003-06-18 Thread Warren Turkal
Here is another response from ESS about specs for ES1988 (maestro3/allegro1). 
Could some others email them and ask for the info for thier cards, please? 
Maybe if enough of us ask, we will se some positive results.

Warren
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No, as to my knowledge, I don't think we have provided that kind of document
or source code before. Sorry about that! 
Regards,


 -Original Message-
From:   Warren Turkal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent:   Sunday, June 15, 2003 7:44 AM
To: TECHINFO
Subject:Re: To ESS Tech Support

On Wednesday 11 June 2003 03:19 pm, TECHINFO wrote:
 Do you mean the source code for Window driver? It has never been open to
 the public. Sorry!
 Regards,

Is any of the neccessary documentation or source code available under an NDA

compatible with developing open source code for the Linux kernel?

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Re: [Alsa-devel] Fwd: RE: To ESS Tech Support

2003-06-18 Thread Paul Davis
Here is another response from ESS about specs for ES1988 (maestro3/allegro1). 
Could some others email them and ask for the info for thier cards, please? 
Maybe if enough of us ask, we will se some positive results.

i doubt if numbers will make much a difference.

why not just quote to them the list of audio interface manufacturers
and chipset makers who have provided the necessary information, and
then ask them if they want to part of that list or marked as
unsupportable. the list is determinable from the matrix on the
website.

these companies (like ess) need a swipe to the head with a cluestick.


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Re: [Alsa-devel] Fwd: RE: To ESS Tech Support

2003-06-18 Thread Takashi Iwai
At Wed, 18 Jun 2003 11:39:02 -0400,
Paul Davis wrote:
 
 Here is another response from ESS about specs for ES1988 (maestro3/allegro1). 
 Could some others email them and ask for the info for thier cards, please? 
 Maybe if enough of us ask, we will se some positive results.
 
 i doubt if numbers will make much a difference.
 
 why not just quote to them the list of audio interface manufacturers
 and chipset makers who have provided the necessary information, and
 then ask them if they want to part of that list or marked as
 unsupportable. the list is determinable from the matrix on the
 website.

well, it's not correct that they did NOT provide any info.
indeed, they did *minimally*.

for example, for maestro2, they gave an example (even buggy) DOS
example programs for the simple playback.
for maestro3, one of the ESS guys gave Zach Brown some information -
the mini SRC DSP code and how to access via their ASSP engine -
although the DSP engine has much much more capabilities.

it's a pity, if the ESS people think that they already did enough for
linux.  yes, it's far better than nothing, but...


Takashi


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Re: [Alsa-devel] Fwd: RE: To ESS Tech Support

2003-06-18 Thread Fred Gleason
On Wednesday 18 June 2003 11:39, Paul Davis wrote:

 why not just quote to them the list of audio interface manufacturers
 and chipset makers who have provided the necessary information, and
 then ask them if they want to part of that list or marked as
 unsupportable. the list is determinable from the matrix on the
 website.

From the general tenor of the responses quoted thus far, I also suspect you're 
dealing with a very junior level employee, who will likely be clueless to 
deal with any question that hasn't been scripted in advance.  Key here is 
going to be getting through to the decision maker(s) -- not just level one 
tech support.

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Re: [Alsa-devel] Fwd: RE: To ESS Tech Support

2003-06-18 Thread Warren Turkal
On Wednesday 18 June 2003 11:07 am, Fred Gleason wrote:
 From the general tenor of the responses quoted thus far, I also suspect
 you're dealing with a very junior level employee, who will likely be
 clueless to deal with any question that hasn't been scripted in advance. 
 Key here is going to be getting through to the decision maker(s) -- not
 just level one tech support.

Any suggestions on how?

Warren
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[Alsa-devel] Fwd: RE: To ESS Tech Support

2003-06-13 Thread Warren Turkal
Another message from the ESS people. If some other people could take the time 
to request this info from ESS also, maybe they would be more forthcoming with 
the info.

Warren
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Do you mean the source code for Window driver? It has never been open to the
public. Sorry! 
Regards,


 -Original Message-
From:   Warren Turkal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent:   Tuesday, June 10, 2003 10:48 PM
To: TECHINFO
Subject:Re: To ESS Tech Support

On Tuesday 10 June 2003 06:24 pm, TECHINFO wrote:
 Sorry, we don't have Linux driver to share with you.
 Regards,

I am not asking for a linux driver. I am asking for the source to your
windows 
driver or documentation for building a driver for the es1988/allegro1 series

cards so that they can be better supported under linux.

Warren
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Re: [Alsa-devel] Fwd: RE: To ESS Tech Support

2003-06-12 Thread Allan Klinbail
Looks like they didn't read your email...

Essentially you are offering them a favour and they see the word linux
and run away scared.. 





On Thu, 2003-06-12 at 11:54, Warren Turkal wrote:
 Dear ALSA developers,
 
 Here is a message from ESS regarding getting some information for the 
 ESS1988/Allegro-1 series cards in order to get better support for them in 
 linux. I hope that some others will help me badger the ESS people in order to 
 (A) release info needed to make the Linux driver or (B) release the Windows 
 driver source so that it can be used for ideas for the Linux driver.
 
 If you choose to reply to this, please CC me as I am not subscribed to this 
 list.
 
 Thanks, Warren Turkal
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[Alsa-devel] Fwd: RE: To ESS Tech Support

2003-06-11 Thread Warren Turkal
Dear ALSA developers,

Here is a message from ESS regarding getting some information for the 
ESS1988/Allegro-1 series cards in order to get better support for them in 
linux. I hope that some others will help me badger the ESS people in order to 
(A) release info needed to make the Linux driver or (B) release the Windows 
driver source so that it can be used for ideas for the Linux driver.

If you choose to reply to this, please CC me as I am not subscribed to this 
list.

Thanks, Warren Turkal
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Sorry, we don't have Linux driver to share with you.
Regards,


 -Original Message-
From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent:   Friday, May 30, 2003 2:00 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:To ESS Tech Support

Tech Support Contact Form
---
PERSONAL INFORMATION:
First Name: Warren
Last Name : Turkal
Country: USA
Phone Number  : 901-372-3416
Email Address : [EMAIL PROTECTED]

ESS Chip ID   : es1988

Windows Version?  : Linux

Product Brand  Model of PC/Notebook or Add-in Board?  : Gateway 600ygr

Current ESS Driver Version?  : Linux 2.5.70

Contacted Product Manufacturer?   : yes

Updated Driver?   : yes

Read FAQ? : yes

Did FAQ Help? : no

SPECIFIC PROBLEM:
Simple dsp audio i/o is supported in your es1988 under Linux, but I would
like to add full support for the card.

02:03.0 Multimedia audio controller: ESS Technology ES1988 Allegro-1 (rev
12)
Subsystem: Gateway 2000: Unknown device 0600
Control: I/O+ Mem- BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop-
ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
Status: Cap+ 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium TAbort-
TAbort- MAbort- SERR- PERR-
Latency: 64 (500ns min, 6000ns max)
Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 5
Region 0: I/O ports at 5000 [size=256]
Capabilities: [c0] Power Management version 2
Flags: PMEClk- DSI+ D1+ D2+ AuxCurrent=0mA
PME(D0-,D1+,D2+,D3hot+,D3cold-)
Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-

I have a technical document describing the es1988 with its registers. Do
you have a document that has help for writing a driver for the es1988 in
it? Source code to your driver would probably also make this easier, even
if the driver is for a different OS.

Please do not hesitate to email me with any questions.

Thanks, Warren
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