Re: [Alsa-user] DELL SP2309W Monitor with Integrated microphone

2009-10-31 Thread Paul Hartman
On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 5:15 PM, Paul Hartman
 wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 2:47 AM, Clemens Ladisch
>  wrote:
>> Paul Hartman wrote:
>>> On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 2:27 AM, Clemens Ladisch
>>>  wrote:
>>> > Phil Gorbett wrote:
>>> > > I am having difficulty getting the microphone(s) going with this
>>> > > monitor, and get the get the following results when I disable pulseaudio
>>> > > and run arecord:
>>> > >
>>> > > "arecord -v -f cd -D plughw:0 file.wav
>>> > > Recording WAVE 'file.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 44100 Hz, 
>>> > > Stereo
>>> > > ALSA lib pcm_params.c:2135:(snd1_pcm_hw_refine_slave) Slave PCM not 
>>> > > usable
>>> > > arecord: set_params:939: Broken configuration for this PCM: no 
>>> > > configurations available"
>>> >
>>> > Please show the output of "lsusb -v" for this device.
>>>
>>> I'm not the OP but I have the same monitor and same problem. Here's
>>> the lsusb output for the microphone:
>>>
>>> http://pastebin.com/f4c340014
>>
>> These descriptors claim it is a simple standard-compliant device.
>>
>> When you run that arecord command, is there any error message in the
>> system log (/var/log/messages, or the output of dmesg)?
>
> Sorry for not replying. I actually had to send the monitor back
> because it developed 1152 stuck pixels (one vertical column) after
> just one month of use :-/  I got a replacement but have not set it up
> yet. Once I get it all attached I will be ready to give more info.
> Thanks.
>

For future searchers, this microphone works properly for me now using
kernel 2.6.31. Thanks to whoever made that happen.

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Re: [Alsa-user] DELL SP2309W Monitor with Integrated microphone

2009-05-07 Thread Paul Hartman
On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 2:47 AM, Clemens Ladisch
 wrote:
> Paul Hartman wrote:
>> On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 2:27 AM, Clemens Ladisch
>>  wrote:
>> > Phil Gorbett wrote:
>> > > I am having difficulty getting the microphone(s) going with this
>> > > monitor, and get the get the following results when I disable pulseaudio
>> > > and run arecord:
>> > >
>> > > "arecord -v -f cd -D plughw:0 file.wav
>> > > Recording WAVE 'file.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 44100 Hz, 
>> > > Stereo
>> > > ALSA lib pcm_params.c:2135:(snd1_pcm_hw_refine_slave) Slave PCM not 
>> > > usable
>> > > arecord: set_params:939: Broken configuration for this PCM: no 
>> > > configurations available"
>> >
>> > Please show the output of "lsusb -v" for this device.
>>
>> I'm not the OP but I have the same monitor and same problem. Here's
>> the lsusb output for the microphone:
>>
>> http://pastebin.com/f4c340014
>
> These descriptors claim it is a simple standard-compliant device.
>
> When you run that arecord command, is there any error message in the
> system log (/var/log/messages, or the output of dmesg)?

Sorry for not replying. I actually had to send the monitor back
because it developed 1152 stuck pixels (one vertical column) after
just one month of use :-/  I got a replacement but have not set it up
yet. Once I get it all attached I will be ready to give more info.
Thanks.

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Re: [Alsa-user] DELL SP2309W Monitor with Integrated microphone

2009-04-20 Thread Clemens Ladisch
Paul Hartman wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 2:27 AM, Clemens Ladisch
>  wrote:
> > Phil Gorbett wrote:
> > > I am having difficulty getting the microphone(s) going with this
> > > monitor, and get the get the following results when I disable pulseaudio
> > > and run arecord:
> > >
> > > "arecord -v -f cd -D plughw:0 file.wav
> > > Recording WAVE 'file.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 44100 Hz, 
> > > Stereo
> > > ALSA lib pcm_params.c:2135:(snd1_pcm_hw_refine_slave) Slave PCM not usable
> > > arecord: set_params:939: Broken configuration for this PCM: no 
> > > configurations available"
> >
> > Please show the output of "lsusb -v" for this device.
> 
> I'm not the OP but I have the same monitor and same problem. Here's
> the lsusb output for the microphone:
> 
> http://pastebin.com/f4c340014

These descriptors claim it is a simple standard-compliant device.

When you run that arecord command, is there any error message in the
system log (/var/log/messages, or the output of dmesg)?


Best regards,
Clemens

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Re: [Alsa-user] DELL SP2309W Monitor with Integrated microphone

2009-04-19 Thread Phil Gorbett
Paul Hartman  gmail.com> writes:
> 
> Dell does not support Ubuntu at all, Dell just sells computers with
> Ubuntu on them and sells support contracts from Canonical. On the Dell
> forums people have specifically asked Dell about it and they basically
> say "the microphone is not linux compatible, try asking the ubuntu
> forums for help, maybe someone can figure it out"... despite the fact
> that it will let you order this monitor along with an Ubuntu computer.
> 
> FWIW the microphones do not work on Mac OS X without commercial
> third-party drivers, and there have been numerous posts by Windows
> users who are having problems getting the microphones to work on
> XP/Vista as well. So I guess the mic is not totally standard usb-audio
> (if there is such a thing as standard).
> 

Yeah, that appears to be correct.  There are a number of Ubuntu users
that have not had any success if the Dell forums are anything to go by.  I
haven't seen this difficulty with Windows, however.  The only problems that
appear to be unresolved are on W7 (beta this and that).  I have not been
successful on a VMware virtual XP on Linux, but that's not too surprising. 
There is a posting on the Mac forums that indicate that the device itself 
may be a re-badged Creative with an Omnivsion chipset:

Creative Labs webcam monitor
Device : 05a9:2649 OmniVision Monitor Webcam
UVC =3
Model : OA002

This was apparently from the Dell driver support.  I don't know if this 
helps,but I suspect that the camera is similar to the Sony PS3 Eye because 
it uses the OV538 controller chip that appears to be what that camera is 
based on:

http://www.ovt.com/products/ip_detail.php?id=9

where the specs state that the chip supports audio input for full 
audio/video operation.  I think the sensor is a OV2640. This jives with 
what lsusb reports. There is a Creative WebCam Live! Ultra that may be the
essential camera device in a Dell form factor, but I can't get the chip 
specs directly for that camera. However, this jives very well with its age, 
and the Windows webcam software app that accompanies the monitor is clearly
Creative Labs software.

I don't know if any of this helps, but I'm at least reasonably sure of 
the chipset and direct audio output.  I'm certainly not a device driver
developer, but willing to assist as much as I possibly can.  If one of 
the many cameras that do work uses this chipset, then it may not be too
difficult to hack up a fix.  

Cheers.


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Re: [Alsa-user] DELL SP2309W Monitor with Integrated microphone

2009-04-17 Thread Paul Hartman
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Phil Gorbett  wrote:
> Paul Hartman  gmail.com> writes:
>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 2:27 AM, Clemens Ladisch
>>  googlemail.com> wrote:
>> > Phil Gorbett wrote:
>> >> I am having difficulty getting the microphone(s) going with this
>> >
>> > Please show the output of "lsusb -v" for this device.
>> >
>> >
>> > Best regards,
>> > Clemens
>>
>> I'm not the OP but I have the same monitor and same problem. Here's
>> the lsusb output for the microphone:
>>
>> http://pastebin.com/f4c340014
>>
>
> Yes, I concur.  The output listed at the referred URL matches exactly that for
> my config (device 0:4).  It appears to be a problem with the usb-audio driver.
> While the monitor is fairly new, it is a Dell monitor and from numerous 
> postings
> on monitor reviews, is quite popular and well received although no one has 
> been
> able the get the mics going in Linux and Dell unable to assist, including 
> Ubuntu
> which they supposedly support (I'm running FC10).  Hence I'd suggest that
> resolving will make many people happy now and in the future.  I'm happy to
> assist as well.

Dell does not support Ubuntu at all, Dell just sells computers with
Ubuntu on them and sells support contracts from Canonical. On the Dell
forums people have specifically asked Dell about it and they basically
say "the microphone is not linux compatible, try asking the ubuntu
forums for help, maybe someone can figure it out"... despite the fact
that it will let you order this monitor along with an Ubuntu computer.

FWIW the microphones do not work on Mac OS X without commercial
third-party drivers, and there have been numerous posts by Windows
users who are having problems getting the microphones to work on
XP/Vista as well. So I guess the mic is not totally standard usb-audio
(if there is such a thing as standard).

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Re: [Alsa-user] DELL SP2309W Monitor with Integrated microphone

2009-04-17 Thread Phil Gorbett
Paul Hartman  gmail.com> writes:

> 
> On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 2:27 AM, Clemens Ladisch
>  googlemail.com> wrote:
> > Phil Gorbett wrote:
> >> I am having difficulty getting the microphone(s) going with this
> >
> > Please show the output of "lsusb -v" for this device.
> >
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Clemens
> 
> I'm not the OP but I have the same monitor and same problem. Here's
> the lsusb output for the microphone:
> 
> http://pastebin.com/f4c340014
> 

Yes, I concur.  The output listed at the referred URL matches exactly that for
my config (device 0:4).  It appears to be a problem with the usb-audio driver. 
While the monitor is fairly new, it is a Dell monitor and from numerous postings
on monitor reviews, is quite popular and well received although no one has been
able the get the mics going in Linux and Dell unable to assist, including Ubuntu
which they supposedly support (I'm running FC10).  Hence I'd suggest that
resolving will make many people happy now and in the future.  I'm happy to
assist as well.

Cheers,
PG



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Re: [Alsa-user] DELL SP2309W Monitor with Integrated microphone

2009-04-17 Thread Paul Hartman
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 2:27 AM, Clemens Ladisch
 wrote:
> Phil Gorbett wrote:
>> I am having difficulty getting the microphone(s) going with this
>> monitor, and get the get the following results when I disable pulseaudio
>> and run arecord:
>>
>> "arecord -v -f cd -D plughw:0 file.wav
>> Recording WAVE 'file.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 44100 Hz, 
>> Stereo
>> ALSA lib pcm_params.c:2135:(snd1_pcm_hw_refine_slave) Slave PCM not usable
>> arecord: set_params:939: Broken configuration for this PCM: no 
>> configurations available"
>
> Please show the output of "lsusb -v" for this device.
>
>
> Best regards,
> Clemens

I'm not the OP but I have the same monitor and same problem. Here's
the lsusb output for the microphone:

http://pastebin.com/f4c340014

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Re: [Alsa-user] DELL SP2309W Monitor with Integrated microphone

2009-04-17 Thread Clemens Ladisch
Phil Gorbett wrote:
> I am having difficulty getting the microphone(s) going with this
> monitor, and get the get the following results when I disable pulseaudio
> and run arecord:
> 
> "arecord -v -f cd -D plughw:0 file.wav
> Recording WAVE 'file.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 44100 Hz, Stereo
> ALSA lib pcm_params.c:2135:(snd1_pcm_hw_refine_slave) Slave PCM not usable
> arecord: set_params:939: Broken configuration for this PCM: no configurations 
> available"

Please show the output of "lsusb -v" for this device.


Best regards,
Clemens

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Re: [Alsa-user] DELL SP2309W Monitor with Integrated microphone

2009-04-16 Thread Paul Hartman
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 10:25 AM, Phil Gorbett  wrote:
> I am having difficulty getting the microphone(s) going with this
> monitor

I have the exact same monitor and have also been unable to get the
microphone working. I posted to this list a while back and got no
reply. Someone else has a similar Dell monitor with a similar
microphone and also posted to this list being unable to get it
working. So it appears these microphones do not work with ALSA at the
moment.

If there's any way for us to help some developers to support this, I
would be happy to give any information required. I'm not sure what the
proper channels are for a non-dev to try to get new hardware
supported.

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[Alsa-user] DELL SP2309W Monitor with Integrated microphone

2009-04-16 Thread Phil Gorbett
I am having difficulty getting the microphone(s) going with this
monitor, and get the get the following results when I disable pulseaudio
and run arecord:

"arecord -v -f cd -D plughw:0 file.wav
Recording WAVE 'file.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 44100 Hz,
Stereo
ALSA lib pcm_params.c:2135:(snd1_pcm_hw_refine_slave) Slave PCM not
usable
arecord: set_params:939: Broken configuration for this PCM: no
configurations available"


To disable p/a, I selected alsa in all sound prefs.  The ALSA webcam
driver is also selected for "sound capture".  I then did "sudo killall
pulseaudio" as well as "pulseaudio -k" for root (sudo) and normal user.

A file.wav was not created.  The same results when testing with p/a.

I have tried several fixes via googling - module loading and sound
"card" indexing via alsa.base modprobe file and LOTS
of others.  Still no luck.  I am running FC10 with pulse, but think it's
probably a snd-usb-audio problem as the driver appears to be correctly
loading and the webcam is clearly indicated in the sound prefs app and
gconf/gstreamer.  I have run thru the usb audio device classes, and all
of the reported class values reported via lsusb -v seem to correctly
correspond to possible values from the audio class parameters.  I'm now
stumped.  

I also get the following errors in the gnome sound recorder:

"Could not negotiate format" followed by "Could not get/set settings
from/on resource.". This jives with the error on tesing from the sound
preference panel: "gconfaudiosrc ! audioconvert ! audioresample !
gconfaudiosink profile=chat: Could not get/set settings from/on
resource." 

...which does not reveal anything specific enough to track down the
problem from searching the net.  

All other sound devices and services are performing correctly via
pulseaudio.  I have at one time removed p/a, but this did
not correct the problem.  I am running the webcam mic as device 0, but
changing that to any other device number fails to solve the problem.
Alsamixer shows the card "Monitor Webcam" mic, the chip "USB mixer", the
recording levels at 74, the capture enabled, and the AGC and loudness
parameters enabled, and although I have tried various combinations of
these, none have worked.

I am running version 1.0.19 of the alsa drivers, and compiled these
directly with all everything enabled as well as using the rpm builds.
Alsainfo output has been uploaded to:


http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=803829378929c58bcc86351c091719a12c79075e


The video portion of the camera functions entirely correctly via uvc and
v4l, but the audio listing from the video test app gucveiw does not list
the webcam mic at all under the audio device list.  The uvc dev group
sent me here, naturally.

I also tried the alsa-dev list (as did another user with the same
problem), but have not had much response.

ANY help would be much appreciated.

Cheers.





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