[Alsa-user] emu10k1 midi failing. why?
Title: emu10k1 midi failing. why?
hi all
i'm trying to understand why and how my midi playback capabilities are failing under ALSA. i'm trying to use my soundBlaster Live! (EMU10K1) midi synth, but i hear nothing. the Details page for this card on the Alsa site states:
- MIDI on SB live drive not working properly.
(http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=Creative+Labs=Soundblaster+Live=EMU10K1=emu10k1)
i'm trying to figure out just *what* isn't working properly. there is a user note on that same page explaining how to add sound fonts with sfxload, but i tried this and it doesn't seem to have made a difference. it looks to me as though everything is configured properly: pcm audio works for both of my cards, and there are a number of (correct?) entries for the various midi modules. midi aware applications (pmidi, alsa-patch-bay, rosegarden) all seem to recognize the synth, e.g.:
$pmidi -l
Port Client name Port name
72:0 Rawmidi 1 - EMU10K1 MPU-401 (U EMU10K1 MPU-401 (UART)
73:0 Emu10k1 WaveTable Emu10k1 Port 0
73:1 Emu10k1 WaveTable Emu10k1 Port 1
73:2 Emu10k1 WaveTable Emu10k1 Port 2
73:3 Emu10k1 WaveTable Emu10k1 Port 3
when i actually try to play a midi file, though, no sound. is there any way to tell *what* isn't working? lsmod, modules.conf, and .asoundrc follow. thanks,
hawkeye parker
$lsmod
Module Size Used by Not tainted
snd-seq-oss 35264 0 (autoclean)
snd-seq-midi 5280 0 (autoclean)
snd-pcm-oss 44452 0 (autoclean)
snd-mixer-oss 16176 0 (autoclean) [snd-pcm-oss]
snd-emu10k1-synth 5884 0
snd-emux-synth 35292 0 [snd-emu10k1-synth]
snd-seq-midi-emul 7212 0 [snd-emux-synth]
snd-seq-virmidi 5144 0 [snd-emux-synth]
snd-seq-midi-event 6304 0 [snd-seq-oss snd-seq-midi snd-seq-virmidi]
snd-seq 49712 2 [snd-seq-oss snd-seq-midi snd-emux-synth snd-seq-midi-emul snd-seq-virmidi snd-seq-midi-event]
snd-emu10k1 87092 0 [snd-emu10k1-synth]
snd-util-mem 3112 0 [snd-emux-synth snd-emu10k1]
snd-hwdep 7104 0 [snd-emu10k1]
snd-ice1712 51532 0
snd-pcm 87456 0 [snd-pcm-oss snd-emu10k1 snd-ice1712]
snd-page-alloc 9908 0 [snd-emu10k1 snd-pcm]
snd-timer 21124 0 [snd-seq snd-pcm]
snd-cs8427 9160 0 [snd-ice1712]
snd-i2c 4660 0 [snd-ice1712 snd-cs8427]
snd-ice17xx-ak4xxx 2588 0 [snd-ice1712]
snd-ac97-codec 59116 0 [snd-emu10k1 snd-ice1712]
snd-mpu401-uart 5520 0 [snd-ice1712]
snd-rawmidi 19744 0 [snd-seq-midi snd-seq-virmidi snd-emu10k1 snd-mpu401-uart]
snd-seq-device 6268 0 [snd-seq-oss snd-seq-midi snd-emu10k1-synth snd-emux-synth snd-seq snd-emu10k1 snd-rawmidi]
snd-ak4xxx-adda 5524 0 [snd-ice1712 snd-ice17xx-ak4xxx]
snd 47812 0 [snd-seq-oss snd-seq-midi snd-pcm-oss snd-mixer-oss snd-emux-synth snd-seq-virmidi snd-seq-midi-event snd-seq snd-emu10k1 snd-util-mem snd-hwdep snd-ice1712 snd-pcm snd-timer snd-cs8427 snd-i2c snd-ac97-codec snd-mpu401-uart snd-rawmidi snd-seq-device snd-ak4xxx-adda]
soundcore 6692 13 [snd]
$cat /etc/modules.conf
alias eth0 ne2k-pci
alias scsi_hostadapter advansys
alias usb-controller usb-uhci
# ALSA portion
alias char-major-116 snd
# delta66
alias snd-card-0 snd-ice1712
# sb live
alias snd-card-1 snd-emu10k1
# module options should go here
# OSS/Free portion
alias char-major-14 soundcore
alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0
alias sound-slot-1 snd-card-1
# card #0
alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss
alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss
alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss
alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss
alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss
# card #1
alias sound-service-1-0 snd-mixer-oss
alias sound-service-1-1 snd-seq-oss
alias sound-service-1-3 snd-pcm-oss
alias sound-service-1-8 snd-seq-oss
alias sound-service-1-12 snd-pcm-oss
#--- Keep modules from being autocleaned
add options -k snd-card-0
add options -k snd-card-1
$cat .asoundrc
# delta 66
pcm.ice1712 {
type hw
card 0
}
ctl.ice1712 {
type hw
card 0
}
# sb live
pcm.emu10k1 {
type hw
card 1
}
ctl.emu10k1 {
type hw
card 1
}
RE: [Alsa-user] emu10k1 midi failing. why?
Title: RE: [Alsa-user] emu10k1 midi failing. why? clemens, many thanks for your reply. indeed, a 0 volume mixer control (Music) was the culprate. your advice to check /proc/asound/card/wavetableD was *very* helpful in determining that the soundfount was actually being correctly installed. if you can believe it, i just hadn't actually stumbled on the alsa wiki pages, which obviously hold much gold. anyhow, i (and every newbie out there) truly thank you for your dogged attention to the list. hawkeye -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Clemens Ladisch Sent: Wed 2/18/2004 12:21 AM To: Hawkeye Parker Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Alsa-user] emu10k1 midi failing. why? Hawkeye Parker wrote: i'm trying to understand why and how my midi playback capabilities are failing under ALSA. i'm trying to use my soundBlaster Live! (EMU10K1) midi synth, but i hear nothing. is there any way to tell *what* isn't working? lsmod tells us the modules are loaded. pmidi -l tells us the MIDI ports are there. How did you run sfxload? Does it output any error message? Did you play to one of the wavetable ports? (The MPU-401 is the external port.) Did you unmute and raise the volume of all relevant mixer controls? Please look into the file /proc/asound/card?/wavetableD? to see if sfxload worked (it should say something about memory and instruments). Additionally, some instrument/samples should be locked while playing. the Details page for this card on the Alsa site states: - MIDI on SB live drive not working properly. This relates to the second external MIDI port, not to the wavetable synthesizer. HTH Clemens
[Alsa-user] sblive: gameport, midi devices, midi ports, gmidimon
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RE: [Alsa-user] sblive: gameport, midi devices, midi ports, gmidimon
Title: RE: [Alsa-user] sblive: gameport, midi devices, midi ports, gmidimon Clemens, you are so correct, it is almost frightening. Thankyou once again. hawkeye -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Clemens Ladisch Sent: Fri 2/20/2004 3:54 AM To: Hawkeye Parker Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Alsa-user] sblive: gameport, midi devices, midi ports, gmidimon Hawkeye Parker wrote: problem: get midi in/out (externally) of my sblive. pmidi -l shows that i have UART 72:0 Rawmidi 1 - EMU10K1 MPU-401 (U EMU10K1 MPU-401 (UART) question: is this the game port? Yes. i'd thought to use pmidi to send events to the UART port (72:0), like: pmidi -p72:0 somefile.mid and then monitor the corresponding device (/dev/snd/midiC1D0??) with gmidimon. but ... i've tried monitoring all of the possible devices, and gmidimon displays nothing. The data you play with pmidi is sent to the output port. gmidimon reads the data that arrives at the input port. Either use a MIDI cable to connect the MIDI Out and MIDI In connectors of your gameport/MIDI cable, or connect pins 12 and 15 of the gameport with a wire: 8 1 --- \ o o o o o o o o / \ o o o o o o o / -|-|--- 15| | 9 \_/ HTH Clemens
