Re: [alto] Intdir telechat review of draft-ietf-alto-cdni-request-routing-alto-17

2021-11-30 Thread Qin Wu
Thanks Donald for detailed valuable review and thanks Jensen to address 
Donald's comments.

-Qin (on behalf of chairs)
-邮件原件-
发件人: alto [mailto:alto-boun...@ietf.org] 代表 Donald Eastlake
发送时间: 2021年12月1日 11:47
收件人: Jensen Zhang 
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主题: Re: [alto] Intdir telechat review of 
draft-ietf-alto-cdni-request-routing-alto-17

Hi Jensen,

Thanks for your agreeable response. I'm happy with your re-wording of the 
second paragraph of Section 3.7.1. Assuming the draft is changed as described 
in your response, I consider all my comments to have been resolved.

Donald
===
 Donald E. Eastlake 3rd   +1-508-333-2270 (cell)
 2386 Panoramic Circle, Apopka, FL 32703 USA  d3e...@gmail.com

On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 8:48 AM Jensen Zhang  wrote:
>
> Hi Donald,
>
> Many thanks for your review. Please see my responses inline.
>
> Thanks,
> Jensen
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 27, 2021 at 10:19 AM Donald Eastlake via Datatracker 
>  wrote:
>>
>> Reviewer: Donald Eastlake
>> Review result: Ready with Issues
>>
>> I am an assigned INT directorate reviewer for 
>> draft-ietf-alto-cdni-request-routing-alto-17. These comments were 
>> written primarily for the benefit of the Internet Area Directors. 
>> Document editors and shepherd should treat these comments just like 
>> they would treat comments from any other IETF contributors and 
>> resolve them along with any other Last Call comments that have been 
>> received. For more details on the INT Directorate, see 
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/group/intdir/about/.
>>
>> Based on my review, if I was on the IESG I would ballot this document 
>> as NO OBJECTION.
>>
>> The following are issues I found with this document that SHOULD be 
>> corrected before publication and some comments:
>>
>>I am not particularly familiar with the technology in this draft os I may
>>have missed things.
>>
>>Abstract: I believe it should say "the exact protocol is not specified"
>>adding "not".
>
>
> Thanks for the catch. We will fix it.
>
>>
>>
>>Section 3.7.1: The second paragraph of this section is one very long
>>sentence that I found confusing and which may be inconsistent. Perhaps a
>>structured list would be better than simple text.
>
>
> Good suggestion. How about the following restructure:
>
> OLD:
>
>Specifically, the IRD announces two network maps, one CDNI
>Advertisement resource without dependency, one CDNI Advertisement
>resource depending on a network map, one filtered CDNI Advertisement
>resource to be defined in Section 5, one property map including
>"cdni-capabilities" as its entity property, one filtered property map
>including "cdni-capabilities" and "pid" as its entity properties, and
>two update stream services (one for updating CDNI Advertisement
>resources, and the other for updating property maps).
>
> NEW:
>
>Specifically, the IRD announces nine information resources as follows:
>
>* two network maps
>* one CDNI Advertisement resource without dependency
>* one CDNI Advertisement resource depending on a network map
>* one filtered CDNI Advertisement resource to be defined in Section 5
>* one property map including "cdni-capabilities" as its entity property
>* one filtered property map including "cdni-capabilities" and "pid" as its 
> entity properties
>* two update stream services
>   + one for updating CDNI Advertisement resources
>   + one for updating property maps
>
>>
>>
>>Section 6.1.1.2: Seems a bit imprecise. I suggest adding at the end "as a
>>decimal number without leading zeros".
>
>
> Very good suggestion. We will add it.
>
>>
>>
>>I was favorably impressed by the relatively complete information included
>>for the Authors in the Authors' Addresses Section. I wish more drafts did
>>this.
>
>
> Thanks ;)
>
>>
>>
>> The following are minor issues (typos, misspelling, minor text 
>> improvements) with the document:
>>
>>PID should be expanded on first use. Although, as far as I can see, other
>>acronyms are appropriately expanded on first use. the document might 
>> benefit
>>from a terminology section (maybe 1.1 or 2.3) as not everyone may read the
>>document sequentially and remember all the expansions.
>
>
> Reasonable suggestion. We will add such a sectio

Re: [alto] Intdir telechat review of draft-ietf-alto-cdni-request-routing-alto-17

2021-11-30 Thread Donald Eastlake
Hi Jensen,

Thanks for your agreeable response. I'm happy with your re-wording of
the second paragraph of Section 3.7.1. Assuming the draft is changed
as described in your response, I consider all my comments to have been
resolved.

Donald
===
 Donald E. Eastlake 3rd   +1-508-333-2270 (cell)
 2386 Panoramic Circle, Apopka, FL 32703 USA
 d3e...@gmail.com

On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 8:48 AM Jensen Zhang  wrote:
>
> Hi Donald,
>
> Many thanks for your review. Please see my responses inline.
>
> Thanks,
> Jensen
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 27, 2021 at 10:19 AM Donald Eastlake via Datatracker 
>  wrote:
>>
>> Reviewer: Donald Eastlake
>> Review result: Ready with Issues
>>
>> I am an assigned INT directorate reviewer for
>> draft-ietf-alto-cdni-request-routing-alto-17. These comments were written
>> primarily for the benefit of the Internet Area Directors. Document editors 
>> and
>> shepherd should treat these comments just like they would treat comments from
>> any other IETF contributors and resolve them along with any other Last Call
>> comments that have been received. For more details on the INT Directorate, 
>> see
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/group/intdir/about/.
>>
>> Based on my review, if I was on the IESG I would ballot this document as NO
>> OBJECTION.
>>
>> The following are issues I found with this document that SHOULD be corrected
>> before publication and some comments:
>>
>>I am not particularly familiar with the technology in this draft os I may
>>have missed things.
>>
>>Abstract: I believe it should say "the exact protocol is not specified"
>>adding "not".
>
>
> Thanks for the catch. We will fix it.
>
>>
>>
>>Section 3.7.1: The second paragraph of this section is one very long
>>sentence that I found confusing and which may be inconsistent. Perhaps a
>>structured list would be better than simple text.
>
>
> Good suggestion. How about the following restructure:
>
> OLD:
>
>Specifically, the IRD announces two network maps, one CDNI
>Advertisement resource without dependency, one CDNI Advertisement
>resource depending on a network map, one filtered CDNI Advertisement
>resource to be defined in Section 5, one property map including
>"cdni-capabilities" as its entity property, one filtered property map
>including "cdni-capabilities" and "pid" as its entity properties, and
>two update stream services (one for updating CDNI Advertisement
>resources, and the other for updating property maps).
>
> NEW:
>
>Specifically, the IRD announces nine information resources as follows:
>
>* two network maps
>* one CDNI Advertisement resource without dependency
>* one CDNI Advertisement resource depending on a network map
>* one filtered CDNI Advertisement resource to be defined in Section 5
>* one property map including "cdni-capabilities" as its entity property
>* one filtered property map including "cdni-capabilities" and "pid" as its 
> entity properties
>* two update stream services
>   + one for updating CDNI Advertisement resources
>   + one for updating property maps
>
>>
>>
>>Section 6.1.1.2: Seems a bit imprecise. I suggest adding at the end "as a
>>decimal number without leading zeros".
>
>
> Very good suggestion. We will add it.
>
>>
>>
>>I was favorably impressed by the relatively complete information included
>>for the Authors in the Authors' Addresses Section. I wish more drafts did
>>this.
>
>
> Thanks ;)
>
>>
>>
>> The following are minor issues (typos, misspelling, minor text improvements)
>> with the document:
>>
>>PID should be expanded on first use. Although, as far as I can see, other
>>acronyms are appropriately expanded on first use. the document might 
>> benefit
>>from a terminology section (maybe 1.1 or 2.3) as not everyone may read the
>>document sequentially and remember all the expansions.
>
>
> Reasonable suggestion. We will add such a section in the coming revision soon.
>
>>
>>
>>Section 2.2, 2nd *'ed paragraph, "ALTO maps can be signed" adding "be".
>
>
> Thanks for the catch.
>
>>
>>
>>Section 3.6: I don't think the following text is needed and it could be
>>deleted. It merely expresses the default that later IETF documents can
>>modify earlier IETF documents.
>>  There may be other
>>   documents extending BaseAdvertisementObject and additional CDNI
>>   capabilities.  They are outside the scope of this document.  To
>>   support them, future documents can extend the specification defined
>>   in this document.
>
>
> Agree.
>
>>
>>
>>Section 3.7.1:  /// -> //
>>
>>Section 6.2.1: "to define" -> "defining"
>
>
> Thanks. Will fix.
>
>>
>>
>>Section 10: It is common to include the same information for Contributors 
>> as
>>is included for Authors in the Authors' Addresses section but that has not
>>been done.
>
>
> Good catch. We 

Re: [alto] Intdir telechat review of draft-ietf-alto-cdni-request-routing-alto-17

2021-11-30 Thread Jensen Zhang
Hi Donald,

Many thanks for your review. Please see my responses inline.

Thanks,
Jensen


On Sat, Nov 27, 2021 at 10:19 AM Donald Eastlake via Datatracker <
nore...@ietf.org> wrote:

> Reviewer: Donald Eastlake
> Review result: Ready with Issues
>
> I am an assigned INT directorate reviewer for
> draft-ietf-alto-cdni-request-routing-alto-17. These comments were written
> primarily for the benefit of the Internet Area Directors. Document editors
> and
> shepherd should treat these comments just like they would treat comments
> from
> any other IETF contributors and resolve them along with any other Last Call
> comments that have been received. For more details on the INT Directorate,
> see
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/group/intdir/about/.
>
> Based on my review, if I was on the IESG I would ballot this document as NO
> OBJECTION.
>
> The following are issues I found with this document that SHOULD be
> corrected
> before publication and some comments:
>
>I am not particularly familiar with the technology in this draft os I
> may
>have missed things.
>
>Abstract: I believe it should say "the exact protocol is not specified"
>adding "not".
>

Thanks for the catch. We will fix it.


>
>Section 3.7.1: The second paragraph of this section is one very long
>sentence that I found confusing and which may be inconsistent. Perhaps a
>structured list would be better than simple text.
>

Good suggestion. How about the following restructure:

OLD:

   Specifically, the IRD announces two network maps, one CDNI
   Advertisement resource without dependency, one CDNI Advertisement
   resource depending on a network map, one filtered CDNI Advertisement
   resource to be defined in Section 5, one property map including
   "cdni-capabilities" as its entity property, one filtered property map
   including "cdni-capabilities" and "pid" as its entity properties, and
   two update stream services (one for updating CDNI Advertisement
   resources, and the other for updating property maps).

NEW:

   Specifically, the IRD announces nine information resources as follows:

   * two network maps
   * one CDNI Advertisement resource without dependency
   * one CDNI Advertisement resource depending on a network map
   * one filtered CDNI Advertisement resource to be defined in Section 5
   * one property map including "cdni-capabilities" as its entity property
   * one filtered property map including "cdni-capabilities" and "pid" as
its entity properties
   * two update stream services
  + one for updating CDNI Advertisement resources
  + one for updating property maps


>
>Section 6.1.1.2: Seems a bit imprecise. I suggest adding at the end
> "as a
>decimal number without leading zeros".
>

Very good suggestion. We will add it.


>
>I was favorably impressed by the relatively complete information
> included
>for the Authors in the Authors' Addresses Section. I wish more drafts
> did
>this.
>

Thanks ;)


>
> The following are minor issues (typos, misspelling, minor text
> improvements)
> with the document:
>
>PID should be expanded on first use. Although, as far as I can see,
> other
>acronyms are appropriately expanded on first use. the document might
> benefit
>from a terminology section (maybe 1.1 or 2.3) as not everyone may read
> the
>document sequentially and remember all the expansions.
>

Reasonable suggestion. We will add such a section in the coming revision
soon.


>
>Section 2.2, 2nd *'ed paragraph, "ALTO maps can be signed" adding "be".
>

Thanks for the catch.


>
>Section 3.6: I don't think the following text is needed and it could be
>deleted. It merely expresses the default that later IETF documents can
>modify earlier IETF documents.
>  There may be other
>   documents extending BaseAdvertisementObject and additional CDNI
>   capabilities.  They are outside the scope of this document.  To
>   support them, future documents can extend the specification defined
>   in this document.
>

Agree.


>
>Section 3.7.1:  /// -> //
>
>Section 6.2.1: "to define" -> "defining"
>

Thanks. Will fix.


>
>Section 10: It is common to include the same information for
> Contributors as
>is included for Authors in the Authors' Addresses section but that has
> not
>been done.
>

Good catch. We will definitely fix this issue. We were using
kramdown-rfc2629, which seems not to support the Contributors section yet.
But it should work by embedding XML manually.


>There are a few addition suggestions that I will send directly to the
>authors.
>
>Really trivial: when you have
>  "xyz": stuff
> for various values of xyz and stuff, there is no consistency in whether or
> not
> there is a space before the colon.
>

Ha, you are right. We will fix this trivial issue.


>
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