Re: [AMaViS-user] Question about amavisd version 2.3.3 - compat with SA 3.1.5?

2006-09-21 Thread Mark Martinec
Clifton,

 In the past I've got some servers which are still running amavisd-new
 2.3.3, and need to do some minimal upgrades on them, including SA.
 I've had some issues with upgrades to SA requiring an
 amavisd version upgrade; should an upgrade from SA 3.1.0 (a year old)
 to 3.1.5 (most recent) require me to do any amavisd-new upgrades too?

I think amavisd-new 2.3.3 can cope with SA 3.1.5, but I never tried it.
There are some changes in a set of pre-loaded SA modules, which may
be loading at the child process instead of from the parent, which
is only an issue if you are running chrooted, otherwise it is just
a small inefficiency.

sa-update can be used with SA 3.1.5 without a need for a change in 
amavisd-new. Versions before SA 3.1.5 required a one line change
in amavisd (or the use of the latest amavisd-new 2.4.3-rc*)
to be able to access rules as prepared by a sa-update utility.

  Mark

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Re: [AMaViS-user] Question about amavisd version 2.3.3 - compat with SA 3.1.5?

2006-09-21 Thread Vincent Li
On Thu, 21 Sep 2006, Mark Martinec wrote:

 sa-update can be used with SA 3.1.5 without a need for a change in
 amavisd-new. Versions before SA 3.1.5 required a one line change
 in amavisd (or the use of the latest amavisd-new 2.4.3-rc*)
 to be able to access rules as prepared by a sa-update utility.

Hi Mark, May I ask what is the one line change? I ran amavisd debug-sa, it 
is like what you mentioned, the rules updated by sa-update is not accessed 
by amavisd

  Mark


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Re: [AMaViS-user] Question about amavisd version 2.3.3 - compat with SA 3.1.5?

2006-09-21 Thread Jim Knuth
Heute (21.09.2006/18:28 Uhr) schrieb Vincent Li,

 On Thu, 21 Sep 2006, Mark Martinec wrote:

 sa-update can be used with SA 3.1.5 without a need for a change in
 amavisd-new. Versions before SA 3.1.5 required a one line change
 in amavisd (or the use of the latest amavisd-new 2.4.3-rc*)
 to be able to access rules as prepared by a sa-update utility.

 Hi Mark, May I ask what is the one line change? I ran amavisd debug-sa, it
 is like what you mentioned

sa-update has nothing to do with amavisd-new ;)

 , the rules updated by sa-update is not accessed
 by amavisd

  Mark


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Re: [AMaViS-user] Question about amavisd version 2.3.3 - compat with SA 3.1.5?

2006-09-21 Thread Vincent Li
On Thu, 21 Sep 2006, Jim Knuth wrote:

 Heute (21.09.2006/18:28 Uhr) schrieb Vincent Li,

 On Thu, 21 Sep 2006, Mark Martinec wrote:

 sa-update can be used with SA 3.1.5 without a need for a change in
 amavisd-new. Versions before SA 3.1.5 required a one line change
 in amavisd (or the use of the latest amavisd-new 2.4.3-rc*)
 to be able to access rules as prepared by a sa-update utility.

 Hi Mark, May I ask what is the one line change? I ran amavisd debug-sa, it
 is like what you mentioned

 sa-update has nothing to do with amavisd-new ;)

I know sa-update coming from SA :). But amavisd needs to access the rules 
updated by sa-update which normally located in 
/var/lib/spamassassin/3.00100*/ directory on Linux platform by default. My 
amavisd-new-2.3.3 still 
access the rules in /usr/share/spamassassin which comes only when you 
upgrade/install SA package.

Vincent


 , the rules updated by sa-update is not accessed
 by amavisd

  Mark



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Re: [AMaViS-user] Question about amavisd version 2.3.3 - compat with SA 3.1.5?

2006-09-21 Thread Mark Martinec
Vincent,

 sa-update can be used with SA 3.1.5 without a need for a change in
 amavisd-new. Versions before SA 3.1.5 required a one line change
 in amavisd (or the use of the latest amavisd-new 2.4.3-rc*)
 to be able to access rules as prepared by a sa-update utility.

 Hi Mark, May I ask what is the one line change? I ran amavisd debug-sa,
 it is like what you mentioned

  LOCAL_STATE_DIR = '/var/lib',

Option needs to be added in a call to Mail::SpamAssassin-new,
otherwise the spamassassin directory created by sa-update in /var/lib
would never be seen by SA, so only rules in /usr/local/share/spamassassin
would be used.

This omission of providing an adequate default for LOCAL_STATE_DIR
was fixed with SA 3.1.5.  If amavisd 2.4.2 or older is used
with SA 3.1.4 or older (and using sa-update is desired), the 
LOCAL_STATE_DIR='/var/lib' line must be inserted in amavisd's
call to Mail::SpamAssassin-new.

From Jim Knuth:
 sa-update has nothing to do with amavisd-new ;)

Almost, but not quite.

  Mark

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[AMaViS-user] Question about amavisd version 2.3.3 - compat with SA 3.1.5?

2006-09-20 Thread Clifton Royston
  I've got some servers which are still running amavisd-new 2.3.3, and
need to do some minimal upgrades on them, including SA.

  In the past I've had some issues with upgrades to SA requiring an
amavisd version upgrade; should an upgrade from SA 3.1.0 (a year old)
to 3.1.5 (most recent) require me to do any amavisd-new upgrades too?

  -- Clifton

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Re: [AMaViS-user] Question about amavisd version 2.3.3 - compat with SA 3.1.5?

2006-09-20 Thread Vincent Li
On Wed, 20 Sep 2006, Clifton Royston wrote:

  In the past I've had some issues with upgrades to SA requiring an
 amavisd version upgrade; should an upgrade from SA 3.1.0 (a year old)
 to 3.1.5 (most recent) require me to do any amavisd-new upgrades too?

I am running amavisd-new 2.3.3 and SA 3.1.4, I don't think you need 
to upgrade amavisd-new IIRC.


  -- Clifton

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